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John Dunn famously wrote, therefore, said not to know for whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee. And that was a very clear message that was sent to now former secretary, Christie Knowham. Her asses out, theoretically, Mark Wayne, Mullins, is in. But there was an exchange by between a counter-swomen, a sitting-cam-loggered-of, and Christie Knowham just the other day, that was very telling in the failure of Knowham to be able to answer truthfully. There was also a lot of perjury that was going on by Christie Knowham in her role as secretary of DHS. It was important to get into the details of how Knowham has repeatedly failed the American people in that job, but also to talk about that failed war powers resolution vote before how for the house yesterday. In the implications of that failed vote, take a listen to the conversation that I just had with the Congresswoman. Joining me now is California Congresswoman, Sydney Cam-loggered-of, who I affectionately refer to as SKD. I think you've got to take a victory lap before you do, before you do.
I want to set this up, please, properly, Congresswoman one. We heard from Senator Kennedy, who I call Foghorn Leghorn, who wanted to say that after Christie Knowham's performance before the US Senate on Tuesday, Donald Trump called him, quote, mad as a murder hornet about her testimony. You know what? I will say. I'll give Senator Kennedy some credit. He did grill Christie Knowham pretty hard about the $220 million PR campaign that just showed her on the back of a horse. I will give him some credit, but you know what's funny? I knew that that was the beginning of the end for Christie Knowham when the Republicans went as hard as they did against Trump Tuesday. Sure. Sure. I think when she came over to the house, we just put the nails in the coffin, but you could smell blood in the water for sure. I don't really know what a murder hornet is, but I do know that when I finally watched the commercial of her or the ad, whatever it was, of her on that horse, trying to pretend
like she was John Wayne, I was like, who is this supposed to help or influence or recruit? I mean, it was money going down that gold toilet. We know the interesting thing is Donald Trump is quoted in media saying he didn't even spend that amount of money for his campaign. So I mean, I do know a plastic surgery is expensive. I didn't know it was $200 million expensive. So let's move on though to the point where she does walk that fateful plank walk. I'm going to call it walk in the plank into the house hearing that she had with y'all. We're going to play it now. But all kidding aside, I want everybody to listen really carefully to this exchange that you had with then Secretary Noah, because I do think this was the nail in the coffin. Let's take a listen. So Secretary, no, at any time during your tenure as director of department of Homeland Security, have you had sexual relations with Corey Lewandowski? Mr. Chairman, I am shocked that we're going down and peddling tabloid garbage in this
committee today reclaiming one thing that I would tell you is that he is a special government employee who works for the White House. There are thousands of them in the federal government claiming it as an advisor. It is okay for you to be an authority to be questioned and it is okay for you to be an authority to be questioned, but it is also a real question. So what I would say you should be able to answer the question that we do at the Department of Homeland Security. Every single day is to protect if someone is asked to make decisions. You or any federal official is sleeping with their subordinate. That should be easy. You should be wanting to answer that question because it is not about your sense that you have brought that up. It is about your judgment. That kind of garbage is about reclaiming my time, so that I can hear my smell from here. I'm belongs to the General Native in California, but it be dice if you would let her respond. I will. I want to let you know it is about your judgment and decision making. It is about the 260,000 employees that work under you that want to make sure that you are
giving information and making decisions clearly. It is about conflict of interest. It is about a national security risk. I mean, I got to give you credit where credit is due. I know that there is a salaciousness to this idea of Cory Lewandowski, who by the way is also out of his job as well, him being, quote, special government employee, but you are right. It has everything to do with judgment and has everything to do with her doing something inappropriate with a subordinate. It has to do with all of the other employees are there. I mean, what I didn't hear Congresswoman was a denial under oath to your question. So that's the word on all the streets, right? She's strong together all of these words and she never said no or she never said yes. I want to just share that it wasn't an uncomfortable question to ask. It's not that's not what I want to do, right? And it probably is an offensive question to ask, but it should be a very simple one to answer
because it is about judgment. It is about conflict of interest. It's about accountability and leadership. You have all of these people who work under you looking up to you and they want moral leadership. They want clear decision-making coming from their leader. And what we have seen from Kristinaum is that she has refused to take accountability for all of the catastrophic failures that have come out under DHS. So the question is, if you're not taking responsibility, is it because maybe you weren't the ones making those decisions or was it because your decisions were clouded by some other kind of relationship and our national security is at risk, right? Liability in the department is at risk. Conflicts of interest are in question.
There is a reason why both Republicans and Democrats were coming for her about FEMA and FEMA contracts and this $220 million ad campaign and this $70 million luxury jet she was leasing. Because people are like, who's making these decisions? And when you're kicking people off of healthcare and then they see you on a horse with some chaps on, riding through the plains, they say, well, is it your poor judgment or is your judgment being clouded by someone else who, who has been signing off on contracts, who's been vetoing contracts, right, who may have had some relationship with an entity that started eight days before the window closed to get a $143 million contract from DHS. So these are real questions. And the American people deserve to know now, you know, like I said, wildly uncomfortable
and I think it actually does take a lot of courage to ask somebody on the mic, hey lady, like what's up with you? But it's also the question that everyone was asking that no one wanted to ask. And that's why you do. You ask the uncomfortable questions and you know what I actually would respectfully disagree with you. I don't think it's an uncomfortable question. I think it's only uncomfortable for her with her husband sitting there, right? I mean, that's uncomfortable for her, but it's not uncomfortable for the American people who are suffering right now because, you know, she told the Senate that that $220 million vanity project that she did, once she lied, she lied. She said Donald Trump told her she could do it and Trump made it very clear to Senator Kennedy and others. He did not. So that's a whole other cup of tea of congressional perjury right there, which they have gone after other Democrats for last year, number two, you know, that the big bullshit bill. I know I own it. You don't have to call it that, but that has heard Americans in such profound ways.
And that doesn't even encompass at $220 million that she said that ad's going to stop running at the end of this month, by the way, which is outrageous. But that doesn't even cover the $75 billion that ICE has. I mean, this is just the craziness that is going on. I'm so glad you also talked about FEMA because FEMA is really important. I want people to leave this conversation, you know, having today with this understanding as well. Because you, you, you, you call this out appropriately. So turns out whistleblowers have come forward in the last few days. Kristi Nome as the Secretary of Homeland Security delayed disaster aid approval by at least three weeks on average, leaving hundreds of FEMA projects in limbo. One example, survivors of severe storms and tornadoes in my backyard in South Florida. From April of 2023, we're still waiting for approval to get disaster unemployment assistance as of last September 2025. This is not a Biden administration thing. This is a Trump administration thing under Secretary Nome.
So it's not just your question about Cory Lewinowski. It's not about the Vanity Project ad. It has everything to do with how she was running FEMA and disaster aid. Well, in Katie, the other part of that, which they alluded to during the Senate hearing, was was Cory, the one deciding when to send out the FEMA money. Was he the one reviewing these FEMA contracts? So like, that's also why the question was so important. I live in LA. We had the palisades fire. We had the Altadena fire. How come we haven't gotten our money? Because there are Republicans that live in palisades. There are Republicans that live in Altadena. That's why tell us what's so upset. He's like, are you kidding me in North Carolina? And I haven't gotten my money. That's why Kevin Kylie was so upset. Kevin is now in a new district because of Prop 50. And he was like, I've been calling y'all for my FEMA money. And the only reason why the application is still good is because the Democrats
in the state of California are issuing the extensions. So I can continue to beg you to give me my money. So why is she not giving out these FEMA contracts? Why is she not sending out the disaster relief? Who is reviewing this? And who is holding it up? She has completely decimated the bureaucracy of FEMA, which is all about helping us when we are most in need. So that's why the lady has to go. Well, here's my concern. Well, before I get to the next thing, I do want to ask you. She now has this job, quote, the shield of the Americas, which sounds like a project that has yet to be greenlit from Hollywood. It's like, I mean, it's the script editing at Tetsurandos's desk right now. That's what that is. Sounds like, but it sounds like that issue is going to go straight to video, huh? It's not even going to make it to be going to to be. But the shield of the Americas.
Though even if, no, because I isn't American, want to know, even if she escapes to this exile position of the shield of the Americas, we can still continue to follow up on what she did wrong, though, right? As the Secretary of DHS, because I do feel like there is a lot of unanswered questions that remain not only about ICBP, et cetera, and her culpability, by the way, because that was her jurisdiction. I want everybody to understand. Bovino and others, Tom Homo, they're all operating under this umbrella of DHS. But I want to make sure, just because she escapes to that place, that she's not untouchable now because she went there. Oh, no, and girlfriend, that shield of the Americas, she's on an island by herself. In fact, she got fired by Trump means he's not going to be using any of his capital to protect her. And so she is going to have to reappear because it looks as if she has perjured herself. There are documents that show that Corey Lewandowski is a signatory,
okay, on these contracts, and she said that was not the case. So she will be coming back before us in some form or another. And I want to remind Chris, you know, if she watches you, that she is not protected by the Supreme Court immunity that was given to Donald Trump. They all should be reminded, by the way, all of them working. Pammy Joe with the bad hair, Todd Blant, etc. Now, before we shift gears, though, I do want to ask Mark Wayne Mullin, who has now been handpicked to replace Christy Knowham. I hate to say this, and this is no joke. He ain't any better. No, he is not any better. He has made his position on immigration explicitly clear. I will bring a little bit of levity to this, though, so many posted on social yesterday, and I got to give them mad props. They said something to the effect of, how do you expect Mark Wayne Mullin to be able to deal with the board if he can't even troll his two first names? But listen, all kidding aside, though, I am concerned for the American
people, because, A, things are still bad and minimally obvious, St. Paul. So, unless anybody thinks it's gotten better, it has not. B, you know, there's a lot going on about Iran. I'm going to ask you about that in a second, but this Mark Wayne Mullin guy, he is not there to be a Sav, or a, you know, on the wounds that have been created by Christy Knowham here. No, no, I believe that the Senate, I don't know him. I've never met him, but I believe him to be a bad ombre based on what I have seen. I think at the end of the day, real talk, Donald Trump can't Christy Knowham, because she was bad for his image, right? She was bragging him down. Everybody was talking about her and not him. And so, he's like, you know, get rid of her. That's not actually how you, why you should get rid of a secretary. You should be doing it based on performance and how they're delivering for the American people. And the fact that that wasn't a priority for him should continue to alarm us all. Mullin has no military experience, no law enforcement experience. He sort of suggested that he was in the military, but not going to show
he was not. He has no experience with crisis management or disaster mitigation. So I don't have a lot of faith in him. It appears that he's very charismatic. I guess he likes to rough and tumble with people in the Senate hearings. Maybe that's what drew him to Donald Trump. I have my other theory that maybe he's like throwing him in the ring to be considered for a presidential candidate in 28. And he's like trying to move all of his macho man around to see which person resonates most with the American people. But that's just my sort of, you know, insomnia theory. But I do know he's going to play it nice and cool while he's trying to get confirmed. And at the end of the day, we have to stay true to the values that we want DHS to uphold, right? That's what all of this has been about. And he needs to uphold those standards just like Kristina failed to uphold them, which was why she got tamed. You're having a good time. You're out drinking with the boys. Now it's time to pay the tab. $11,352.47. Wait, what? Well, there are court costs, attorney fees, higher insurance
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confused because we're Republicans are trying to gaslight us into thinking it's not a war. It's a war that required congressional authorization. I was disappointed to see that but yet predictably the House yesterday voted to not support a war power resolution. And you know what I spoke to Jim Himes your colleague. What's amazing is you could vote as Congress to make them explain why we're doing what we're doing and what's the risk in educating Congress and giving you guys the opportunity to do what you're required and constitutionally a supposed to be doing which is giving them authorization go to war. Katie, I'm so mad because essentially that vote failing was Congress saying hey, Trump, we don't want to do our job. You can do your job and our job. And I take my job very seriously and I think the American people deserve to have us present evidence to them as to why we should go into a war spend your dollars potentially sacrifice your loved ones
for a war. Which has already happened. Yes, yes. And we've got folks stranded over there that we're not even doing our damnedest to bring home. And you have an administration that is talking with such a cavalier sensibility about this war. Yeah, people are going to die. Yeah, we don't know how much it's going to cost. Yeah, it's about regime change. Well, actually, it's not really. Oh, it was a bad deal. All of this nonsense and noise Republicans can't even find the right script to stick to. Right. And war is serious. And people have died. And I also have to say we have to separate the Iranian people in the country from an oppressive regime. And what gives us the right to unilaterally say, hey, I'm just going to go into this country and kill these people because I don't like them because they're doing something that's bad. Well, if people looked at what's happening in our country, they would might say the same thing about us. We're a country that let
ICE ages walk around masked up and shoot people, American citizens in the back and in the face. We are a country that just snatched away health care from millions of people. That looks pretty rogue to me. And we haven't heard a peep from Tulsi Gabbard who's supposed to be the national director on intelligence who would be sharing information to justify why we would spend your money and potentially sacrifice your loved ones for a war. So I'm so fucking pissed. Well, Tulsi's too busy running around seizing ballots to be able to be doing her job. I mean, and really, Marco Rubio, he's too busy having 17 jobs to be able to come and explain what's happening and that that involves him. I'm really worried too that we're we're now doing stuff in Ecuador, Cuba's on the horizon. I mean, we're doing a lot of stuff somewhere else, but not
on our own backyards. I mean, this was the peacetime president, no more wars, no for America first, America first. Right. Why are we going over there? And then all of a sudden, from Department of Defense to Department of War, GI Joe Hegseth is up here saying, stop talking about Americans who've been killed. Shame on you. Well, I think we deserve to honor those folks. And I actually think those families deserve an explanation as to why their loved ones were killed. I think the rest of the country does too. And I think our allies and partners who we may be losing because of this deserve some explanations as well because we will need their help at some point. And if they don't want to help us, I would understand why. You know, it's it's far more it's bigger than the show they want to put on for us. Oh, and by the way, in the midst of all this happening, there was another drop of the Epstein files. Yes, which had been hidden
until Pammy Joe got her subpoena from house oversight. Then suddenly these 48,000 files were not offline for review anymore and were able to be released. You know, I think the most the thing that makes me the most angry about all that is happening is it is it's such an insult to Americans to think that we don't have the intelligence to be paying attention to multiple things at one time. And that we don't have the intelligence or capacity to understand that they're trying to gaslight us and that they're lying to us. That I think is always the problem because you don't have to be super dialed in. You're having a good time. You're out drinking with the boys. Now it's time to pay the tab. 11,352.47 cents. Wait, what? Well, there are court costs, attorney fees, higher insurance costs, damage to your car, do you why fines? Not to mention the damage to your social life. Plan a sober ride or pay the price. Drinking and driving costs more than your drinks.
It could cost a life. Learn more at What'sTheDamage.org. Brought to you by Virginia DMV. To understand what this government is doing. And I got to say, Congressman Sydney Camelogger Dove, I may have a personal bias and I'll own it with our relationship, but I will say this. You just said a few minutes ago, you take your job seriously. There has been an abdication. Of many electeds in DC on both sides. I want to be very clear here. Be very clear of their power. They were elected to go. Constituents elected you to go to Congress. And they gave you power to go use it. And yet, in myriad ways, several electeds are not using their power. I don't understand that. And I have said, if you want Donald Trump to do your job, then you don't deserve to keep your job. We have two major roles. One is to
have the power to declare war. And the other is the power of the purse. On the third role, we have three roles. Is the power of oversight. So I went in Judiciary on Wednesday and conducted oversight on Kristie Known. Okay. As hard as it looked. Okay. And as uncomfortable as it made her feel, it was my job to do that. It was my job to vote yes on the war powers to reclaim my power, which is claim showing receiving, sharing evidence with you to justify why I would say yes to war. And I have a responsibility to fight to bring money back to the district, to the departments that fund all of the services that we need. So if you don't want to do those three jobs, then don't be up here watching 10 DC booze. Amen. And that concludes the sermon at the Church of Sydney Cameloggerdough. Don't forget to put into that offer Tory right there to the
past past the plate. Congresswoman, it's always so good to see you. Thank you again for being such a fierce advocate for the truth is exactly what we need. And I know it's a privilege to have your time given so willingly. So thank you. Thank you. Appreciate you so much. Thank you. Katie Fang here. We launched the Katie Fang news channel in partnership with the Midas Touch Network. So we could bring you the latest and legal and political news straight no chaser. So if you're a fellow truth teller, hit that subscribe button and share the word about this channel. So we can build a high information America together. As we know, finally, the Pamela Joe DOJ has released more Epstein files, some of which include very specific allegations concerning convicted felon Donald Trump. Let's get into the details right now. I want you to have the latest, so you understand what folks are talking about. Just really brief, background here. So the Department of Justice earlier this week admitted that there were 47,635
Epstein files quote offline for review and quote, but the Department of Justice only admitted this after Roger Solenberger and independent journalists and the Wall Street Journal verified that these 48,000 or so documents were just gone and missing off the Department of Justice website. Now, this just underscores a few things. One, we know that Bondi's DOJ, which is the Trump DOJ, is not being honest with the American people about what fully encompasses the Epstein files. Number two, we know Todd Blanch, the deputy AG, also personal lawyer for Donald Trump has admitted. There's at least three million files that they are quote, keeping safe or keeping guarded or withholding because they believe that it falls within exemptions within the Epstein Files Transparency Act. But we've heard from Congressman Conna and Massie, the people who actually drafted the Epstein Files Transparency Act and listen, I as a lawyer can read that statute and so can you. And it makes it perfectly clear that you cannot withhold documents unless it's within specific
exemptions, none of which so far we have been told actually apply, right? And so if you think about the games that are being played, it just really, I think in my mind, means that it's important to get an independent person that's in place. That's not a member of Congress that doesn't work for the DOJ, that the court appoints like a special master, right? That could sit there and call balls and strikes and really hold the DOJ's feet to the fire. So how do we end up finding out that these 48,000 offline files were going to be released? Well, gosh, isn't it a coincidence that just after the votes were obtained by House Oversight, including bipartisan votes from Republicans like Nancy Mays, Lauren Boebert and others to Sapina, Attorney General Pamela Joe, to appear before House Oversight to ask to answer questions specifically at Epstein that these files are now disclosed. Now let's get into them, okay? Because I want to make sure you know what is going on here.
What we're focusing on for purposes of today's episode are interviews that were done of a young woman for interviews specifically by the FBI back in 2019. And this young woman alleges that between the ages of 13 and 15, she was sexually abused raped by Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump and others. So there you go. I mean, that's the reason why that the DOJ sat on these files and wouldn't turn them over because they referenced Donald Trump. Remember, you're not allowed to withhold that according to the law because it might create political embarrassment, et cetera for people. Now, we have four interviews. I've said this before when we talked about this last week, why would the FBI sit down and meet with this young woman four different times if they didn't find her to be credible? And what do you know? According to the Miami Herald, the great Julie Brown and Claire Healy, a DOJ source told the Miami Herald,
quote, agents found her this little girl, this woman who's the subject of these interviews, to be credible and that they would not have interviewed her four times if they thought she was lying. Unfortunately, in the end, she declined to cooperate with their investigation and they lost touch with her. The sources told the Miami Herald. These four interviews were on July 24th, 2019, August 7th, 2019, August 20th, 2019, and October 16th, 2019. The first interview was released by the Bondi DOJ in January. And it alleged that she was raped by Jeffrey Epstein in the 80s. She was about 13 years old and living in Hilton, South Carolina with her mom, her mom had put out a local advertisement for babysitting services by her little girl. Epstein responded. She was sent. The victim was sent to be able to do babysitting services, Epstein drugter and raped her over the course of several years. Again, that was a part of the
disclosure in January, which I'm not going to give the DOJ grace for that one either because it should have been turned over in December of 2025, but it was only after a huge uproar about the fact that there was non-compliance that we still continued to get drips and drabs from the DOJ. Now, let's turn to the next interview. Now, the next interview took place August 7th, of 2019. Now, I got it here as I have the others, but I want to talk about this one because this one really has some measure of specificity about Donald Trump. Let's get into the Trump allegations and then we'll talk about some of the other notes that are within this specific interview because this one's particularly noteworthy. The victim tells the FBI agents that she recalled at least one incident in which Jeffrey Epstein took her either by plane or by car to New York or New Jersey. She was introduced to someone with money money. It was Donald Trump. Alrighty. So now we have an
explicit identification of Donald Trump. She and Epstein were with others that this young woman did not identify, but one person that was clearly identified Donald Trump. It was a very tall building with huge rooms. Trump tower maybe. Trump did not like the victim from the get go. He didn't like that I was a boy girl referencing being like a tomboy. Victim could not recall the identities of the other individuals present. However, they all exited the room when Trump said leave. Trump said something to the effect of, quote, let me teach you how little girls are supposed to be. Trump then according to this victim telling FBI agents in August of 2019. Trump unzipped his pants put this little girl's head down to his penis. The little girl bit the shit out of it as in the penis. Trump struck her and said words to the effect of, quote,
get this little bitch the hell out of here. End quote. Victim advised she bit Trump's penis because he disgusted her. He had money. It raked off of him. She said at that point, people re-entered the room. The victim then distinctly recalled a beautiful blonde woman approaching her that day after her interaction with Trump. The beautiful blonde woman said, let me give you a tip little girl about your breasts. Wear a bra every night. Those words have stayed with the victim throughout the years. The victim then continues to tell the FBI agents. She got the feeling that there was a jealousy relationship between Epstein and Trump. Trump appeared to be jealous of Epstein. Trump and Epstein used the terms, quote, fresh meat untainted and not jaded while referring to girls. At the time that the victim heard that phrase, she did not understand the term not jaded. She subsequently looked it up and learned. She then stated she had two additional interactions with
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One of which was explicitly, explicitly sexual. Another reference to Trump in this particular interview is how Epstein used to talk about blackmail and we'll get into that in a couple of minutes. Have it pertain to this particular victim and her mother. The victim tells the FBI agents that she was confident Trump knew Epstein blackmail people because she heard Epstein and Trump talking about it. The victim said she knew Trump had illegal building permits. She heard Trump talking about washing money through casinos. Number six is Donald Trump's favorite number according to the victim. Victim was not sure how she knew that but she had heard it at one point. Victim said Epstein's blackmailing of her mother ruined my family. And what is she talking about? Or earlier in the interview, she mentioned how her mother worked for a real estate company. Epstein was blackmailing her mother through explicit photographs that had been taken of her daughter, the victim. The mother embezzled money from a real estate company to pay
Epstein. Her mother tried to buy the photos and the secrets back from Epstein over the years. Epstein also lent out the victim, which is consistent with other allegations that have been made by other victims in this case or in the case of Epstein Maxwell and others to a man by the name of Jim Atkins who sexually assaulted this victim on multiple occasions. At some point in time, the victim's mother cannot continue to make the blackmail payments so she sent to prison because she was busted for embezzlement. Prior to meeting Epstein by the victim, right? The victim meeting her mother had actually been sober but then after the blackmail began by Epstein, her mother began to drink alcohol again. The victim then corroborates what we've heard from other victims and survivors that Epstein would use the victims to do recruitment of other young girls. She said to the FBI agents that Epstein would send her on missions to find young girls who wanted to party.
She also knows that Epstein took photographs at a minimum of her during sexual activity because she found images of herself on Polaroids. Again, consistent with some of the evidence that we've seen being released so far by the DOJ, Epstein took Polaroid pictures of her, some were just her breasts, some were her face, some showed her whole body, but she remembers finding those images in a drawer and that she remembered Epstein taking pictures of her. She also said that several times when she interacted with Epstein, she was drugged and she specified the types of drugs. She also continued to talk about how there was more efforts by Epstein to use her to recruit other young girls like, hey, your friends, do they want to come? She also then felt through this grooming process that she had with Jeffrey Epstein, this weird thing where she felt like it was important to please him to make sure she stayed in his good graces. One thing that really made me sad among many things, though, was how this victim told the FBI
agents that she felt like even though she was continuously sexually abused by Epstein, she felt like Epstein trusted her. She began to feel important that she knew that he knew that she was keeping his secrets and that Epstein admitted that he had been molested as a child and she then had very, very specific information about sexual activity with Jeffrey Epstein. Now, as I mentioned, there are other interviews that were done with this woman, August 20, 2019, October 16, 2019, and the third interview on August 20, 2019, this victim says that when she bit Trump's penis, he pulled her hair and punctured on the side of the head. She also said that there have been numerous death threats received by her and her mother. She told the FBI she felt like this were threats being perpetrated by Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump, including calls like, quote, we know where you're at. You need to keep your mouth shut. In her final interview with the FBI in October 20, excuse me, let me get the state right,
October 16, 2019, the victim said, well, what's the point, right? These assaults had taken so long ago. What's the point of trying to pursue justice in this instance? All of these allegations from these four interviews with the FBI were included in a July 2025 PowerPoint presentation, which showed allegations made against men, including Donald Trump. And that was a part of the FBI. Folks, look, whether you want to believe these allegations are true and obviously the White House is making a big stink about the fact that they're not. They're claiming that these are uncoroperated and not credible allegations. The reality is we have not seen a fulsome investigation done of Donald Trump and others. We see allegations raised and at this state, they're just allegations. But you have to ask yourself, why would you hide these documents from the American people about
Donald Trump and others unless you had a fear that people would actually believe them? Or miraculously, you didn't think that people like us, journalists, people who care that we want to be paying attention to the documents that are being released. We want to be paying attention to things like the bait stamps at the bottom right corner of the documents that we want to be paying attention to the numeration of those pages. It's a big dumb assumption to be making. What is that saying that they say, don't assume it makes an ass out of you and me? Well, it's not making an ass out of us because we care about the truth. And we're not going to give a pass and we give no grace to people like the incompetent and yet very intentional FBI in this case and the incompetent and very intentional DOJ in this case where they are scrubbing these documents to eliminate references to Trump. And it's only until Pam Bondi gets subpoenaed, including Republicans voting for that
subpoena. And it's only when publications and journalists are shouting saying we know that you're withholding these documents more so than what Blanche has admitted. The truth comes out eventually, but it's so damn slow. So damn slow. So let's see what happens when Pam Bondi eventually appears in front of House Oversight and she is grilled and has to answer questions about the missing 48,000 files. What about the withheld three million files? There's still so much more out there. But this four interviews with the FBI? If you think she's full of shit, you don't sit down with her for four times. Do you? You don't? It's 2019. This young woman is sitting down and she's telling what happened to her between ages 13 to 15. It takes a certain measure of bravery encouraged to continue to step forward to talk about this type of trauma. She had some very specific details about Donald Trump. I'll leave it at that. Be mad, be outraged, be accountability. It is March
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