Julian Dorey Drops UFO Bombshell About James Fox

0:00What's up, Veterans Patrick here with Vetted time stamps down below. Let's get started. Don't forget to check out our merch store, vettedmarch.store. All right, today's video is very special because it's going to be something no one is talking about. I assure you. So we are going to be talking about podcasters, juliendory and Danny Jones, but specifically juliendory who has a big podcast, right? You may or may not have heard of him. He used to cover the UFO topic quite a bit, but then something happened that made him stop covering the UFO topic. So we're going to get into that. It involves Jason Sands, James Fox, and even Vetted. So let's get this going. You know, I have done in the past a lot of podcasts with people around like, you know, investing in the UFO phenomenon. I really haven't done any of those in episode 273. And I just put out episode 463 a couple days ago. So it's been a while because I

1:02got to go in a tangent on that for a second. I definitely got a little bit blackpilled on that when I had Jason Sands in here with James Fox. And James Fox is a good friend of mine and a great guy. Love him makes amazing films, really cares. You know, obviously is like the guy when it comes to being a documentary in the documentary filmmaker in that field. But Jason Sands was shoved down James's throat by sources. I didn't know that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, to put in the program. And James is like, I don't know. And these guys were like, no, no, you got to talk to him. The stories legit, all that. And I know who those people are who did that. And I'll just say that because those guys did that and then had him put Jason Sands in there. And you know, I strongly believe,

2:06I'm certain that Jason Sands's story is actually not real at all. It's been and disproven as being literally lifted bar for bar word for word from guy. You know, and some of the past things that they've claimed, including direct terminology that they that they. Because he's he started out with a very good. There's two. But they're both they're both literally lifted from from guy. All right, better. Please hit that like button that really helps out the videos. And of course, if you're not already subscribed, hit that subscribe button. All right, so this is getting interesting. Right. So that's Julie and Dory right there on another podcast talking about right his experience covering UFOs. And it all goes back to when he interviewed Jason Sands on his podcast with James Fox present. And he's basically saying that Jason Sands was forced onto James Fox to put in his documentary, the program. Julie and Dory saying he knows who forced

3:07James Fox to put Jason Sands in the documentary and then that essentially hurt credibility. And it did. Because Jason Sands story was, you know, insane. Before Jason Sands came out in the program, he had come out on a Twitter space and sort of blown his story all white open. And that just created a whole shitshow. Then the day the documentary comes out for the program, Jason Sands drops another crazy story on top of that, right. The stuff that's not included in the program. So it sort of hurt the credibility, right. And then Julie and Dory is saying here that Jason Sands lifted his story from Gaia essentially, right, word for word. Well, check this clip out. Recently Chris Ramsey on Area 52 interviewed Rick Dodie and listened to what he had to say about Jason Sands. This isn't like, I mean, you've heard of the Jason Sands. Jason Sands, let's come talk

4:09about. Yeah. I don't want to name you mentioned his name. So yeah. So that's similar. Similar. Or Jason got it from here. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But yeah, in and around the same timeframe area as well. Yeah. Same being as well described being blue skinned. Yeah. Wow. But if you go to Gaia, I can't think it was episode 80 or something. This was, this was told. Right. And that's two years before Jason Sands came out. I see. I see. So you're saying that there might be some type of overlap and absence in this serial. Maybe they just had a different incident. I'm not saying Jason Lion. I'm just saying it. Yeah. Doesn't fit. Yeah. Yeah. One of the stories is already out there. So it definitely takes away from some of the credibility. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. So Rick Doty is saying the same thing. Now, can Rick Doty be trusted? I don't know. But if Jason Sands is taking stories from Rick Doty, that's not good either. So I'll let you decide on that what you

5:11think of that. But let's keep moving on. So essentially, Julie and Dory starts talking about this podcast that he had with Jason Sands and James Fox. So let's continue. When we did that podcast, first of all, I think Jason believes these stories. I don't think Jason's a bad guy. Actually, got along with him very well. Jason has had some severe trauma in his life. And when we did episode 267 with the two of them, we did 266 where it was an hour and a half. James, me and Jason was in the studio and touched on it. And then we took a quick break, came back in. I said, all right, we'll do a second podcast right now. This is this we're going to do Jason's story. We did that for like three hours. If you listen to the first 32 minutes of that podcast, because I didn't know anything about Jason, just hearing about his childhood and all the things that happened to him and where he already was, it gave me a lot of empathy for him. And for what was going to come next, because I was like, okay, I get it. This guy's been through absolute hell. And you know,

6:12those stories, Darcy Weir was actually on it from day one on that. He knew it when Jason, even before the program when Jason came out in April, 24, Darcy was like, oh no, I, because Darcy was making a documentary about the guy guys at the time. He's like, this is lifted from the stuff they said. This is not real. And he was right. And no one really listened to him at the time. But what happened was the program had come out like December 17th, something like that, December 15th, 2024. And a day or two later, Jason went on some podcast and told the second story, which was even way crazier than the first story. Don't even need to get into what it was. But it was so demonstrably bullshit. And he told it, I think he, that came out a day after James recorded with Joe Rogan, but Joe didn't put out the podcast until Christmas Eve. So then they didn't have the context of that second story now being public in all the blowback.

7:14And then the talk about Jason stands on the podcast a week later and people are like, how could you ignore this? So James was getting all kinds of unfair shit that was totally out of his control. And he called me up and had the idea because he was going to be coming in that maybe bring in Jason and just let me go at it and see what's what. And so that's what we did. And I knew it wasn't a real story. So again, there's a lot there, right? Julie and Dory is behind the scenes, seeing all this happen, witnessing all of this. And I've had my own experiences behind the scenes with things like this. And I think anyone that covers UFOs has these sort of experiences that makes you want to just walk away because it's just bullshit a lot of it, right? And you start to deal with all this bullshit behind the scenes, right? And this is essentially what pushed Julie and Dory away, someone who was actively covering the UFO topic constantly, right? Such a big part of the topics that he covered,

8:16probably the biggest one. And then to just stop covering it because of this whole fiasco. Now again, he brings up this podcast that he did with Jason Sands and James Fox and coincidentally enough. That's when Vetted gets brought up. So let's go back in time to this podcast that Julie and Dory did with Jason Sands and James Fox. I'm just going to play a short clip and then we'll get back to Julie and Dory. When you did this Twitter space is in April. There was actually a guy Vetted, I believe, shout out Vetted. Yeah. I'd seen a video on this. I think a couple of weeks ago who apparently at the time had heard through the grapevine of a couple other people he was connected to that you had a story of being ordered to assassinate an alien. Now this was like at the time, shot down or whatever. And then fast forward from April 24 when that was first like floated by him and he caught backlash for that. Now fast forward to December 2024. The program comes out on the

9:2016th and I believe like a day later, I forget who it was with. I'm sorry. I'll put the link in description, but you do like a 22 minute interview. I think it was on YouTube. Who was that with? Do you remember? I think this would dig me for now. Alessie, can you look this up real quick? Jason Sands interview alien assassination and look for the one that's 22 minutes I want to give. I was looking at that. I'll respond a little bit. Anyway, yeah, Vetted had put out the video, but he said something like I killed a blue alien. Yes. Now I was like, uh, shit, that is not what I said. Because he was confusing two different things. Who would you have said this to or whatever he was misinterpreting? I don't know who he talked to behind the scenes, but I did mention it to only one other or two other people. Okay. That there was some stuff that I had some work that I had to do that I don't like talking about because it brings PTSD back. But the other thing was that this blue alien,

10:20I was like, no, I didn't kill a blue alien. So I immediately called Vetted and we settled it up and I said, look, that's not right. And I said, can you take it down? You know, because it's not correct. And then he didn't take it down, but he corrected it. But that's because I contacted him. And we got to know each other. He's a really great guy. And he's he's also somebody I consider a friend through all this. Yeah, he doesn't agree with all my stuff. And I don't care about that. It's not his life. Yeah. And this is the video right here post disclosure world. That's who it was who you did this with. Yeah. So this is this is what I want to get at because you don't say any of this back in April. And when you talked with James and gave the testimony on the documentary, you didn't mention any of this. You didn't mention lost time unless that was on the cutting floor. James, you can fill that in. Yeah, I don't remember about the last time, but I definitely remember I called Jason. I was like, dude, you are killing me right now. We're talking about. All right. You want to kill the credibility of all the testimony. I'm already riding the line with you. This encounter. You know, so all right. So I was having a big issue. Yes. And and and and really big issue. Like a crazy claim

11:27for the average person like like me to hear the blue aliens already tough. That's already tough. Agreed. But like when you're like, I was forced to assassinate for the air. I got the federation. You know, whatever it gets to like, all right. What crazy status. All right. So there's a lot there. First of all, all respect to Jason. I don't believe a story to say where friends is interesting. I've never spoke to him on the phone. We just spoke through DMs. Some of that is true. What he's saying. But some of it is not. So it's a little weird. He didn't really contact me. He did, but in a different way. Like it's just not the way he's saying it. So I have nothing against the guy personally. As you can tell from Julian Dory talking about him, like he felt bad first childhood, right? You start, you think Jason believed, I believe that too. I think Jason believes this stuff and everything that's happening and it sounds like he had a very dramatic upbringing. But regardless, the whole thing is that before Jason, before the program comes out, Jason is a

12:33someone in the film, right? Who's going to tell a story for the first time. So what does Jason do? He comes out in an X-Base, like I mentioned before. And that's where Vettid gets involved. He comes out in an X-Base and tells a story. I put out another story about Jason Sands that I'd heard from someone. And everyone told me that's bullshit. Didn't happen. Even Jason Sands denies it. It says, didn't happen. Basically that he had killed a blue alien. He denies it. It says it didn't happen. Fast forward, like Julian Dory saying, months and months later, turns out that is a story that Jason's telling. So retroactively releases me. I was right the whole time. But regardless, Jason comes out that second time and sort of reveals that he had all kinds of crazy stories. Jason Sands has all kinds of crazy stories. And the point is not here to discuss Jason Sands story if it's real or not real.

13:36Just the point is that this interview and this interaction and this whole story with Jason Sands and James Fox and with Julian Dory is what made Julian Dory stop covering UFOs. I mean, that's the big story here. And what you hear from people like this who have access to a lot of big people, the the the weirdness that happens behind the scenes with this stuff, the controlled narrative, if you will, right? Which makes you start to think has a lot of bullshit floating around. But let's continue with Julian Dory because I've got more clips to get to of Julian Dory and Danny Jones talking, which you're going to want to hear that. Once I was able to talk to James and I and get the full back story on how this had been really pushed on him, it made me call into question a lot of other things that of course I questioned all of it in the past, but now there were things I was like, Oh, that's got to be total bullshit then. Thinking about some other things that these people

14:38were involved in. And it just removed the wool from my eyes on the issue. And so, you know, I had recorded with Lou Elizondo previously scheduled like two days after that. That guy avoids me like the plague and I don't know why. Well, I had had Lou in for 237. We got along well and he was coming back in January. So he came back a couple days after I'd recorded with James and Jason. I did that one, put that out for 273. And then I really stepped away from that stuff because I, you know, I'm very open. I'm open to aliens having been here in television life, having been here. I'm open to like when you look at some of the history of the James Fox is able to lay down better than anyone I've ever seen about all the claims sightings and the data of those claims sightings specifically since World War II. There's something strange there for sure. What? I'm not positive, but like there is something strange there. So I'm not one of these people that just fucking poo-poo's every goddamn thing at all. But I just found at that point that so many of the people who were going on podcasts

15:46or out there talking about it and making a living off of it either had horrible sources or were just playing on the trade of wanting to believe in this stuff too much that I just stayed away from it. And I'm like, listen, I am really lucky to be able to have access to in some cases some amazing scientists and physicists around the world who are looking at this from a more evidentiary base lens, some of whom actually are very open-minded on this. Others famously aren't, but like I've had in some that are extremely open-minded that I'm like, I'd rather talk with them about it. So I enjoy my conversations with like a David Kipping even like when I talk about some of the stuff with Lee Kronin, you know, like these guys are geniuses and it doesn't mean they're right about everything. But there's a fact-finding effort with evidence with those guys that you just don't get. So it's basically like he finally saw through the light, right? He finally saw that there's just a

16:50lot of bullshit with this. It doesn't mean the phenomena isn't real that there aren't interesting and compelling stories out there. I feel the same way, but there's also a lot of bullshit, especially when it comes from the government narrative and some of these weird people that are working behind the scenes to bring you information. They do a lot of weird shit. They do a lot of weird shit behind the scenes to be able- makes people want to walk away, right? So I just found this absolutely fascinating in eye-opening to anyone that cares about this topic. You should care about this story. And then it makes you start to wonder about all these documentaries that come out about UFOs and people and like who got forced into the document. You know what I mean? Like just becomes this weird thing. You start to question all of this information, right? Especially the age of disclosure. Remember that documentary? Remember the director, Dan Ferrer? Well, I've broken up a clip into two parts. This is what Julian Dory and Danny Jones,

17:52both podcasters who cover this topic regularly. Well, Julian Dory used to. And Danny Jones doesn't is much anymore either. And you're about to find out why. So again, I've got this clip. They're talking about Dan Ferrer. They're talking about a lot of stuff. So let's get into it again. I broke it down into two parts. Here's part one. But yeah, so James Clappers and all these UFO videos. Yeah, I can't believe it. Yeah, I can't believe it, dude. All those fucking goofy press conferences about UFOs. James Clappers like right in the front row with his hearing aids just sitting there watching. And it's just like, why? Like is this not the biggest red flag? This whole thing is like some sort of operation, some sort of weird. He's out now. He's. So James Clappers among the high ranking former government officials featured in the investigative filmmaker James Fox's documentary, the age of disclosure. Yeah, that's not James Fox's talk. No, that's, yeah, James Fox was a part of that initially, but it was a Dan Ferrer. Yeah. So the Google AI got there wrong, which explores government handling and public disclosure of UIPs and media appearances regarding Pentagon UIP reports Clappers stated that recording and examining unexplained aerial activities is practical

18:55responsibility for intelligence agencies and accustomed to navigating ambiguity, acknowledging that some sightings to five quick explanation Clappers express skepticism regarding extraterrestrial explanations or multi-decade cover up conspiracy narratives, maintaining a focus on empirical analysis and national security implications. So he's kind of like, you know, he's soaking. He's in there. He's doing something. He's doing. I talk to people that make these documentaries, like this Dan Ferrer guy. Yeah, you had him on. Yeah, he was like, he was, well, he was saying that like when he got into this thing, he had to somebody point him to all the right directions in the Pentagon, including to this guy James Clapper. And he's like, yeah, he's like, he's like, yeah, I understand how some people have pushed back against him and don't trust him or whatever. I get it, but like he told me that his wife was in the hospital that day and he was willing to leave his wife in the hospital and come to this interview with me. So it's like, I really feel for the guy. He would, you know, he's like, that's how they get you, bro. War hero. Oh, boy.

19:56Yeah, it's just like people fall for the bed. And you can get really fucking amazing smart filmmakers and journalists to go fucking take the bait if they haven't been paying attention to this stuff long enough as people like Jesse Michaels, who know all the moving pieces and know the history of this stuff and know how there's been, you know, this crazy like tug of war within, you know, public researchers like him and people who work in military and even within the military, there's people that are fighting against the narrative. So Jesse, Jesse and Chris Ramsey are the best in the game. I'd understand the history of anything that's ever been claimed. I've never standing like it with their scope of knowledge on it. Yeah. But like what, you know, you have, I guess outside of Jesse at this point, because that's pretty much all he covers. And maybe Chris too, you have from a generalist standpoint, like one of the most extensive libraries of like UFO claim. They're like Pokemon. You got to catch them all, bro. You have caught them all. I caught

20:59charizard. What do you make of it? Steven Greer. What do you think it's all I don't fucking know. I don't even think about it, to be honest. I tried, I tried not to even think about it because it's a waste of time, I think, I think I'll let people like Jesse do that work and I'll listen to them after they've made their conclusions and I'll let them take the reins. For me, it's just like, it's too much. It's too, it's just too many moving parts. You have everyone fighting about it online. It's just like, it's like truth mixed with sion mixed with people trying to make money on it. And it's like trying to waste your time separating the wheat from the chaff is not what I want to do. I get bored of it very quick. I get really bored of the UFO thing very quick. So there you go. Right. Danny Jones here saying how bored he gets of the topic. Because trying to separate, as he put it the wheat from the chaff, right, the find the needle in the haystack is impossible. It is. He's right. It's a mix of truth, sion, bullshit, egos, money,

22:01all this other stuff. And you're just trying to find out the truth about aliens and UFOs. Right. He's right. He's just a complete shit show. We talk about all the time on the show. Right. They pivot to other topics. I unfortunately, I'm UFO centric. So I got to stay with UFOs here. But I can't say that I haven't had the same thoughts that I want to cover other stuff because of this same reasons they talk about. Honestly, I can relate so much to what these two guys are talking about. So I've dealt with it myself. And it's interesting hearing them talk about damn fair, right? It's like, yeah, dude, you know, these guys pointed you on the right direction. Why? He didn't even question any of it, right? The questioning age of disclosure in damn fair. What's an interesting tidbit is that James Fox was connected to the age of disclosure initially and then kind of pushed out, which kind of makes sense if you think about in the sense that Dan Farah is a producer on the phenomena, which is James Fox's documentary, right? So I bet there's some interesting bad blood between James Fox and Dan Farah, like James getting pushed out

23:04of the age of disclosure. And then that's why he makes the program, you know, essentially, because it's kind of the same style of documentary. So just some very interesting comments from these guys very eye opening. Just to hear them talk about the topic, people they've interviewed and what's going on. Basically, the only one you haven't done is like bubbles are. Like when it comes to getting to the wildest claims and shit like that, like you've been there, done that, and I feel you know, I just to kind of double tell anyone on to come happen. Let's do podcast. The to kind of dub pill, what you said though, about what Dan was saying, well, you know, these guys are so nice. Taking time out of their day, pointing me in the right direction. Yeah, why? Why? Out of the goodness of their heart, they picked you Dan. It's the same thing with the any Jacobson. Sure. Absolutely. It's it's it's a fair criticism. It's like, why did they choose you?

24:08What but with something so wild, like extra terrestrial that could get to like the meaning of life, if the truth were figured out in a certain way and landed on a certain part of whatever it may be, it's like, you know, they're giving you all that access. Like for me, I haven't done since episodes 266 and 267 and then I already added scheduled to record right after that 273 with with Luella Zondo, but 266 and 67 were James Fox and James Fox. Oh, yeah, I need a couple episodes with him. I haven't done any episodes with like UFO guys. Just for you. Since then I've done I've had Chris Ramsey in here to talk to you know, just go through stories and history. Oh, you also have to do the fun shot the alien. Well, that was Jason Sands. That's Jason Sands episode 266 and 67. Like that was a real line in the sand for me. No pun intended because you got a hard immune response to that one because I knew it wasn't real. Right. And and to his credit, I had Darcy Wearing

25:09again right after that because Darcy Weir was the guy who was on it from day one. Yeah. Knowing bar for bar word for word would prove to what Jason Sands was saying was completely untrue. Not that you know, you couldn't already be like, come on bro. But like he had actual no, no, no, like he literally lifted it from this, this and that. Right. And I knew the people that ram Jason Sands down James Fox's throat to put him in his documentary that then made him look really bad. And some of those same people were the ones bringing other things in the past that seem like maybe there's a there there. Yeah. Yeah. And once that kind of happened, it was like, okay. What are they doing? What's the op? Yeah. You know, so I talk with physicists about it at this point. That's what I do. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if a physicist was going to have the answer to this stuff. I don't think this is the kind of stuff. Like my sort of like

26:09top down 90,000 foot view of the whole thing. If I could really boil it down, what I think it is, I think it's all consciousness related. You know, I bet these guys are saying a lot of things you're thinking as well. I know they are about me. So anyway, let me know what you think down in the comments, links down below as well. If you want to check out some of these podcasts in full, as always, see you guys in the next one. Remember that as every day's a gift y'all. Peace!