JR Morning ~ September 10, 2026 ~ Full Show

0:00Good morning, Lloyd. Good morning, sir. How are you? I am good on a Friday eve. Friday eve, Thursday here on J.R. Morning. However, you want to look at it is good with us. Yes. And boy, we got a lot to get to today. So let's get to the headlines. The Republican National Committee kicked off its first ever midterm convention in Dallas last night, leaning heavily into President Donald Trump as the party works to energize its base ahead of November. Now, Trump of Paloza, the event feature the president imploring supporters to act as if he were on the ballot, even proposing a $5,000 Trump dividend for adults if Republicans retain the House. Okay. The event comes amid looming political headwinds with National polls showing the president's approval rating at 39% with Democrats. And I'm favorite to retake the House in key forecast. Dozens of vulnerable Republican candidates opted to skip the gathering last night. The Vice President, JD Vance and President Donald Trump both set to address the convention

1:00again tonight. A massive fire heavily damaged the historic Lockmore Club and Gross Point Woods crews from all five gross point communities responded yesterday as flames and thick smoke poured from the club's main building. Just off Mac Avenue, no injuries have been reported. Witnesses say the fire appeared to begin in the kitchen before spreading into the attic. But officials have not confirmed the cause or released the damage estimate. Mayor Arthur Bryant says the building will likely be unavailable for a long time. The private country club opened more than a century ago and recently underwent major renovations. Its original clubhouse was also destroyed by fire that was back in 1924. Detroit City Council exploring alternatives to DTE energy after last week's storms knocked out power to more than 450,000 customers. Council members voted unanimously to study how Michigan communities, including Wyandotte and Ann Arbor, meet their energy needs. Members criticized Detroit's dependence on a single utility, but Council President Pro Tem, Coleman Young II, says the vote begins a conversation, not a concrete plan to replace

2:02DTE. The utility says it has invested more than a billion dollars in Detroit's electric grid over five years of restore power to more than 90% of the city's customers within 48 hours of storms. A strong majority of Michigan voters say they support tighter restrictions on political contributions from regulated utilities and major government contractors. The new WDIV Detroit News poll found 71.5% would vote yes on the proposed initiative law. About 16% were opposed, 13% undecided. The November ballot proposal prohibits certain electric and gas utilities and contractors receiving more than $250,000 annually in government contracts from contributing to public officials who influence them. The iPhone, well, well, well. A new one Apple has unveiled its biggest iPhone redesign yet the company's first foldable model. The new iPhone Duo opens a open opens to provide Apple's largest ever phone display and can

3:02also be positioned upright. But the new design comes with a premium price. Duo starts at $1,999. Apple also introduced the iPhone 18 Pro and Pro Max costing $100 more than last year's battles. New color options include glacier and burgundy. The company also announced AirPods AirPods 5s and Apple Watch series 12. And I know Chris, you don't probably care. But listen, they won a series yesterday. The Tigers beat Minnesota 7-2 at Comaric Apart, clinching their first series win and a month. Let's see if we can get a streak. I will say I love that the yay was a little lower. Yeah, it was kind of like, yeah. It's exactly how we feel. All right, tremendous. Oh, they got a couple, they got a day off 640 first pitch tomorrow against the Rockies. Yeah, trying to just trying to get to the to the finish line.

4:03Just limping to the end. Limping to the end. What is this? I will issue a dividend to every adult citizen in the United States of America for $5,000 dollars. Yay. Okay. So you vote GOP looking to mailbox. So after I guess and you get five grand. I got to be honest, remember Andrew Yang. Oh, yeah. Every Andrew Yang. Sure do. He was talking about giving people $1,000 a month. Yes. When he was running for president. He sure did. Which I thought was a cockamamey idea. I see this is where I don't know what Donald Trump is. I don't know what he is. He certainly is not a conservative. Okay. Because no conservative would come out and say, I'm going to give you a 5 grand. Yeah. Oh, and by the way, you can only spend it in the United States. Okay.

5:04Great. No Amazon purchases for you. No, nothing. Okay. This is very socialist behavior. Giving giving for nothing here. Here. Take this competing. He's trying to compete with the socialism with the DSA. I don't like it. I don't like anything about that. I mean, where's the money coming from? That's what I like to know. Where is this? Well, who cares? We're in the $40 trillion in. What does it matter at this point? That's right. He's going to run the debt up. Money is not real. Apparently we just spend and spend and spend. And here you can have 5 grand. Okay. So let's just say. Let's just say. Okay. Let's just say. All right. Help me. You vote for the GOP. You're not a GOP person, but you say, hey, I'm going to vote for the GOP because I want to get this 5 grand. Yeah. So you vote. And so let's say next year sometime and you're waiting and you don't get it.

6:05And so I mean, you got that Joe's check? Nope. Nope. Oh, okay. So what do you do? Yeah. I mean, at that point, you voted for the GOP. They've kept the house. And I don't really, you know, I told you I was going to be 5 grand, but you know, you don't never get it. Hey, I'm only going to be here another two years. And what are you going to do about it? I viewed yesterday. That was not a convention. It was a more of a rally, you think? It was, yeah. It was just a rally. It was just a rally. Which call it that? I mean, I don't care what you call it. I don't care if it's a prevention, a rally, a pep rally. I don't care if you call it a party. I don't care what it is. But I'm looking at this as a mostly rational sane person, at least today, today. Very clear today. No. I, and I'm like, what is this? What is this?

7:07What are we doing? What is this? What this was supposed to invigorate your voters? This was supposed to reinvigorate your base. Now look, one of the benefits that the Republicans have is they got way more money, way more money than Democrats do. Yes, they do. Way more money, especially after the last night at the pay 25 grand. Right. The DNC's in the red. Yeah. Okay. So they have the ability to do things like this and be center stage and have the headlines. Right. You're getting talked about today. I just, I'm not entirely sure that you did enough to bring in, yes, your voters are going to be there for the most part. But yeah. But it's the independence. It's the people on the fringes that you might want to really take advantage of. Uh huh. And I'm not sure that they were able to do that last night. I'm not sure they were able to do that last night. Here's what Donald Trump said when it comes to what your vote means this November. You're going to lose your butter.

8:08You're going to lose your tax cuts. You're going to lose your safety and security. You're going to lose your wealth. Our country is going through hell. You will be going through hell just like you did just two years ago. We went through hell. We were a laughing sock all over the world. He also slammed the Democratic party. We'll get to that coming up. Yeah. But basically said they're all, they're all communists and socialists now. Meanwhile, you had John Federman. Oh, you appear on a video. Yes. Introducing David McCormick, the other senator from Pennsylvania. Yeah. And basically, he just said, look, I'm a common sense Democrat. You know, why am I here? Because I'm going to stand with America. Yeah. And there's always been a speculation that Federman might flip or might go into pen. They've been talking, they've been talking about it. Yeah. But again, he's been the eye of the party for a while anyway, because of his stance on Israel. And this is, this is obviously doesn't go with with their, their narrative. So, look, I thought it was an odd night one.

9:09I'm willing to hold out any sort of opinion on night too. Okay. We'll see how it goes today. But if yesterday was the appetizer, I'd love to see what's going to go on tonight. The untree. Yeah. Okay. Coming up next, Chad, live in good joins the show new polling shows that the governor's race, the Senate race is tight here in Michigan. We'll talk about it coming up at share morning. All right. So new polling shows a very tight race between Mike Rogers and Abdul Al-Sahead. I mean, while a little bit of a, of a bigger lead for Jocelyn Benson and over John James, but still a very close race. Uh, and then there's new polling on data centers. Let's talk about it all with Chad, live in good, the politics editor and columnist at the Detroit News. Chad, good morning. Good to have you back. Good morning, gentlemen. What do you make of the new polling, the Detroit News, WDIV polling carried out by the Glen Gare of Group? These races are far from over there.

10:09There's a lot of runway left here for, for all of these campaigns. There are. I mean, our poll shows that Mike Rogers has a one point lead against Abdul Al-Sahead and the US Senate race. And Jocelyn Benson has about a four point lead against John James. What in the governor's race? There was about 19% on this site at this moment. The, the problem right now looking for, for Republicans is that of those undecided, about 70 to 75% of them are saying that they disapprove of the job that Donald Trump is doing as president. And they're, they're key major issues are cost of groceries and they cost a gas. And we can, you know, we all know the cost of gas that went up, shot off the, when the president went to work for Ron in February and has not gone back down ever since. And so they're, they're blaming the president for the price of gas, blaming the president

11:13for the price of groceries. And that does not pretend well for Republicans with these narrow, you know, if you're Mike Rogers, this is, this is not exactly like comforting the Europe one point and there's, there's this angry group of undecided voters out there that would tend to break for, for your opponent. But yeah, at the time, you know, there's clearly some, some, some issues that Democrats have got to work out. And this, there's these, these certain issues like data centers that are just igniting voters. So are the, this Detroit news, WDIV poll shows that almost two thirds of Michigan voters oppose the construction of data centers. And just fewer than one in five people actually are supporting, supporting them. And, and this is even more pronounced among Democrats than Republicans.

12:18And so, and we, we saw that in the primary between El Sayyad and the Haley Stevens, just how impassioned this, this, this, the subject had become. And it's, it's, it's, it's, it's an issue that has given motivate. That's what you see, Mike Rogers now going to come in out for a one year moratorium. And I think you're going to see some more Republicans actually push for one year moratorium is that they're, they're, they're trying to tell voters something that they want to hear, which is, hey, I'm going to go and I'm going to go and get this, this, this, this train slowed down essentially. Even though we got this gigantic data center being built in the farm fields of saline township, one is, you know, primary ready to go for construction and banburing township at, at 275 and, and, and 1994. And there's other ones in the pipeline and, and lying township and, and else, and then there's obviously been some, some communities that have issued moratoriums,

13:21like, I'm in how township and up in the Romul area to try to, you know, slow the role of, of the AI machine here. Chad, the poll also shows that President Trump has a 61% disapproval rating. And, you know, many undecided voters also disapprove of him. How difficult is it going to be for John James, Mike Rogers, to separate themselves from the president when necessary without alienating that Trump base? Yeah, I mean, I think they, they, they stick out the Trump base. Where is, you know, if you, they're either in a separate now or, or, or, more, maybe, literally, election. I mean, that's good. That's good. That's what is coming down to the year. President Trump's approval rating is down to 35%. This is a low in, in Glengare approved polls, you know, quarterly or even more, more often than that has pulled Trump since 2018. Looking at, or, for the 17, when he came to office, there has never been a approval rating for

14:24John Trump this low. I mean, and this, this is Joe Biden early 2024 territory now, effectively when Biden was deeply unpopular because of, because of the price of groceries and gas and, and, and, and, and so he's, he's really, really become, you know, looking more and more like an anchor on, on a Republican ticket right now. And, and one of the big issues that is just very unique to Michigan is his trade war with Canada. And the effect is having on the Michigan economy. And as part of the poll here, we asked voters, what do they think of the, the, the new 50% tariffs. You know, that the president just slapped on Canadian cement, wine, dairy product, hockey sticks. And, and the, and the, just less than 30% of the voters, approved of these tariffs, nearly two thirds of them disapprove.

15:27And when you start asking, you know, how do pendants feel about this? 73% of those independence are opposed to it. Then Democrats are almost completely united, 93%. But the fact that that, you got, say, three percent of the independence, independence is side elections in this take. And when, and these close races. And so, well, and then you look at some of these races, obviously, the, the Rogers L. Syed race, that could very well determine, uh, who wins the Senate and who controls the high chamber in Washington's fascinating stuff. Chad Live and Good, uh, fortunately right at time, we appreciate you as always. Thank you. We'll talk again very soon. Thanks guys. Yeah, you got it. Uh, fascinating stuff. And, and again, these, just the snapshot and time, is that I got to kill us. We'll talk about it next. Boy, when I saw this story, and then I went and clicked in the comments of, uh, of a particular post on Twitter, I, I, I kind of had a feeling on what I expect to see. And I actually saw a lot of questions.

16:31People had a lot of questions because something that Jacob Cox and posted on X, uh, he was a pre-training researcher at Anthropic. Uh-huh. And he wrote two days ago, I resigned from Anthropic today. I've worked at both OpenAI and Anthropic. Neither company is acting responsibly. They are racing straight towards self-improving superintelligence and gambling with our lives. Do not underestimate the power of this technology. These will soon be superhuman systems that can hack anything, revolutionize any field overnight and acquire real power and resources. We have all witnessed the progress in each of these domains and progress is not slowing. And then he went on to say, uh, from, um, the, the idea of, okay, well, how powerful can this be? He said it could kill the human race. There's a 10% chance that that's possible. Within the next decade, yeah. You're talking about people on the inside that are leaving these

17:35companies and coming out and saying this. Yeah. Well, what are we supposed to think? Right? Because look, I've got no doubt these systems are going to be incredibly helpful to our lives. Absolutely. But you start saying stuff like this, all of a sudden, it becomes a much different scenario. Let's talk about it with Dennis. Uh, Brent Yaxx, the CEO of Aukcom, with Johnson's this morning, Brent, come morning. It's good to have you back. Thanks for having me. I don't know where to start with this because this is like sending up the flare, uh, and sounding the alarm to what those inside are thinking about this technology. I can't imagine everybody feels this way. But the questions that I was seeing online from people is, well, how could AI possibly do this? How could a, a program impact our lives in that way? And, and so I'm curious to know if we reach that super intelligence level that he speaks of, what, what are the capabilities of a, of a system like this that has the ability to learn and self-taught

18:38and, and carry out actions by itself? Well, here's kind of the, what Jacob's saying, I think, and his sort of chain of events that he thinks, you know, is potentially going to occur if we don't put some controls in place. He's saying, look, a better AI is going to be able to improve itself, which is going to drive this thing called super intelligence. That super intelligence can defeat any of the safeguards that we have in place. It's going to go ahead and gain resources in the physical world somehow. It'll escape human control somehow. It'll gain physical world access somehow. And then humans aren't going to be able to do anything at all to prevent this, and then boom, existential catastrophe. That's kind of his chain of thoughts. But along that line, there are so many different things that have to happen, have to, you know, go in the right way, humans have to completely disappear from controlling any of this to get to kind of what he thinks is this, you know, catastrophe potentially. Well, you know, and critics say that these companies may be exaggerating the danger to attract attention, maybe increase the value or encourage regulations

19:42that protect them from the competitors. How do we separate the legitimate warning from some corporate hype? Well, so I do kind of feel this is a little bit sensationalized now, especially with the conversation of AI. I kind of have a rule of thumb when I see these things. If somebody predicts it, it's 10 years or so out, that means they have absolutely no idea if any of this will happen. It's generally sensationalized. If they say, look, we see the warning signs we see, you know, things happening this year and next year, year after that we have to take seriously. I generally take it more seriously, but everything if you notice that the catastrophe is always a decade or so out, right? It's the same with AI. Yeah. Yeah. No, and that's a fair point to make. He also talks about kind of throwing the brakes on this development that there needs to be something put into place that would that would essentially halt it, that it stops now and you work with what you have now. I don't think that's realistic for these companies that have, you know, X amount of dollars used to fund these programs in building them. So they want to get to profitability as quickly as possible.

20:43So that doesn't seem viable. But what can be done to put some some guardrails on this thing? Yes. I think we've seen them though actually in post those guardrails. I think, you know, I was looking at some of the posts from Jacob and some of the conversations, you know, he's had online and one of his, you know, kind of warning shots he talks about is when an enverropic recently had AI trying to do something. It escaped its sort of sandbox and it went on its own world path, right? And he calls that a warning sign, but really if you look what happened from an engineering standpoint, they noticed what was going on. They understood it. They controlled it. They adjusted the system. They fixed it. And then the next time they ran it, it didn't have any of those issues. So we already have a system in place, an engineering process in place to do that control. And what Jacob does is he predicts this, you know, half of disruption, but he doesn't predict the control curve. And our control curve does rise with this technology. It has been consistent. You know, right? I act to me, you know, these AI companies that kind of face a difficult choice.

21:43You know, they can either slow down and risk losing to competitors or other countries, or they can just keep moving forward and then they can risk losing control. Is there a responsible middle ground? Well, if you factor in sort of what the world's age is doing, I don't know. That's a really great question, Lloyd, because we ought to keep up with China. We got to keep up with these other countries that are, you know, dumping a lot of resources in it that may have less care about control than we do. So the balance is how do we move really, really fast and controlled as much as we can to be ahead of some of these other locations that really we have no idea what they'll do with that type of technology if they get there before we do. I'm curious to know how the the hugging face incident plays in here, because this was about 1200 AI agents that were supposed to be isolated. They found a way to interact with another message board. They sent 70,000 messages. What does that show you about the current state of these systems? You know, I think that was that was aligned with what Jacob's saying is that, you know,

22:43hey, we should have predicted this a little bit better. We should have put more controls in place. But again, I would go back to it and say, you know, we use that as a learning opportunity. So the balance there is hard. Do we push the technology versus do we have 100% of things to find beforehand? I compare it to this. It's NASA versus SpaceX, right? NASA is going to say, hey, look at we are going to take 40 years to make sure that everything is perfect before we do anything. And SpaceX is like, hey, man, we just blew up a couple ships, but we learned a lot. So now we're going to put a new one up there. It's the same kind of practice within AI right now. Can the United States regulate this advanced AI effectively without just, you know, giving today's biggest technology companies even more power? That's another good question because historically, the US has stopped and great at regulating technology. It's always behind. And they're definitely more so behind in AI than they have been sort of in other advances like, you know, other telecommunication advances, internet, so on and so forth. So I mean, do they have the ability? Yes. Do they generally take

23:46the steps necessary to get ahead of it and hire the right people and build the right think tanks to create the right regulation? No, they're more reactive. And that's especially with this and administration. We're definitely reactive now. All right. Well, you've come my fears this morning. Brad, yeah, I appreciate you. Thank you. We'll talk soon. Exactly. Yeah, you got it. I think I think the point though is we found ourselves between a rock and a hard place. This technology is advancing so quickly. So fast. Yeah, you can't pull the reins back because you've got China, you've got, you know, those in the Middle East, you've got these bad actors, particularly China. Yeah, that are that are pushing forward this technology and and their regard for every, you know, for some of these concerns are not the same. No, absolutely not. Yeah. So having having that now you're in now you're in that arms race. Now you're in the race towards perfecting this technology. You can't stop. No, he said, you know, but that's it. That's versus space. Right. The train is off the track. It is at this point. All right. Coming up on the

24:48other side, we'll talk about night one of the midterm Republican convention. What did we learn from it? What what can we take with did they sway voters? We'll talk about it coming up a chairmore. I'm asking you to let us finish the job we began with the greatest two years in the history of the presidency. This has been the most successful two years financially and every other way in the history of the presidency. Wands voters to help them finish the job. Yeah. And making that appeal to Republican voters historically Republicans are a little light turnout on midterm elections. We saw that a few years ago. Yeah. We saw that in 2018. And so what what what now can we expect? Did this help sway any Republican voters? Did it help sway independence or those on the fringes of the party? And of course, we have night two today. Dennis Dornoy is the strategic

25:48communications leader in veteran political advisor at Dennis R. Consulting. Dennis, good morning. Good to have you back. Good morning. Thank you for having me on again. I appreciate it. Less of a convention more of a rally last night. What did you make of it? Did that help the Republican cause at all? Well, absolutely absolutely more of a rally. As we've seen in this, everyone's reported, you know, right now Republicans have a bit of an enthusiasm as it turns into selection. And President Trump decided that, you know, it would be a good idea to hold this midterm convention to get organized voters. And you heard him literally say last night, think of me as being on the ballot come out and vote. And a lot of Republicans believe that if they can turn out the voters who voted for President Trump, but generally as you just mentioned, don't come out and vote in the midterms that they'll have a much more successful election than poll numbers are showing. So what we saw last night was, you know, speeches and conversations directly to those individuals in the effort and in the hope that they will turn out and vote this November. Does making the

26:52midterms though a referendum on him energize the base? Or does it make it harder for the GOP candidates to run their own records? Well, it becomes a little bit of a mixed message, doesn't it? And I do know that there are some Republicans who chose not to go to the convention who are involved in some very competitive races here in our state and other places. But then, again, you also had, you know, someone like the Charlotte, Alisa McLean, like Rogers from Michigan who turned out and were there. So I think, you know, depending on the type of race that you're involved in, depending on, you know, how you view and how you see the president being supported in your own district, a lot of those candidates made the decision either to state, moment, campaign or to support the president and the party down in Dallas. I think the idea of this makes a lot of sense in a midterm election. If you've got the money, Republicans do Democrats don't. Do you think there's any envy on the left that maybe this type of event could have helped voters?

27:59Well, I think Democrats tried it three times before and they stopped because of the cost and because of the inciting. I think what you saw last night was something that was very well organized, something that kept the message on where they wanted, where Republicans want to go. You saw Republican after Republican attack Democrats for being wrong on the economy, for being out of such with what American voters want. So I think when you run a convention that has a central theme, it has a goal. It can be successful and obviously we'll see what tonight brings, but I would expect many of the messages being more the same. And again, you know, President Trump being, you know, President Trump, he's going to close out the convention as well. I don't know if we'll go for another two hours like he did last night, but he's certainly going to provide the closing arguments for Republicans as they head into November. I know the biggest surprise last night was this proposed $5,000 Trump dividend for American adults if the Republicans retain Congress. Is

29:01that a serious policy proposal or a turnout strategy or a little bit of both? You know, I think is one person who is a little bit worried about the national debt adding another billion dollars. This is certainly something that I really want to see where the proof is on how that would be paid for. You know, again, I take it as one of those things that President Trump says. I don't think a lot of people fully expect a $5,000 check come November 5th if Republicans are in the House and the Senate. But I think the point, you know, the larger point in being is that in order to keep the country on track as he believes it is and as many Republicans think it is, you know, it's sort of that tongue in cheek incentive to come out and vote for Republicans. And again, I think, you know, seeing Senator Federman from Pennsylvania get up there and speak on behalf and make some of the arguments against his own party that you hear Republicans making certainly was a surprise

30:01and a shock in one of the highlights and surprises from last night. Do you think that this carries any weight at this point as we sit here in early to mid-September? I mean, is it too late to hold an event like this? Would they be better served to hold up, essentially also a fundraiser type of atmosphere with some ra ra speech, try to get voters on board earlier in the calendar? Well, I think you know, with you know, for us here in Michigan, we have absentees going out in a couple of weeks. So in some ways, having it fresh on people's minds as the absentee about start to hit is something that's very good. I think you also heard the president say that he was going to campaign in competitive states. He'll show up at least once if not more than that. So again, you know, him coming into states and obviously I very much expect that to see him here in Michigan once or twice will help reiterate the message that they delivered last night. So I think the timing really is meant that as we come out of labor day, most people start to pay attention to

31:06to politics again, you know, whether you're sending your kids off to school, whatever the case may be. You know, I think it is a good time to start to remind voters that hey, you know, there's an election in a couple of months, you know, the states and again, he will reiterate that message coming into Michigan once or twice over the next couple of days. Well, you know, after night one, Dennis, did the Republicans brought in their appeal or was it just really a rally design to motivate the voters who already support them? Yeah, I think, you know, what we saw last night, at least in terms of the speeches, it was very much a Republican driven speech. And again, I think one of the main focuses for the party right now is turning out Republican voters or known Republican voters who tend to sit out the midterm elections. And I think it was last night was, you know, trying to give them a reason and saying, you know, this is why it's important, this is why you need to turn out. So they focused really in terms of message was on a lot of things that, you know, was meant to drive those

32:06Republican voters back to the polls. I think probably in the individual races, you know, certainly you've seen Mike Rogers deal it, individual candidates have a more message, more design to track independent voters. But last night and the convention and the event itself is to really motivate Republican voters to get out to the ballot to vote and to turn out. And again, I mean, I think it was Newt Gingrich former speaker who said, you know, if we work together as a team, we will be successful if these races are just seen as individual races, Republicans will struggle a bit. So again, it really is targeting Republican voters who don't turn out in the midterms to get them to vote for Republicans. Dennis, don't know, we appreciate your insights as always. Thank you. We'll talk again soon. Have a great day. Thank you. You do the same. Yeah, interesting to see what night two will hold. Yeah. Any more big surprises in Dallas. Oh, I'm sure they got something dialed. You know what? Sure they do. All right. We'll take break. It's cut up on the headlines on the other side. Also, Dr. Steve Craig hops in. We hop on the couch and try to solve

33:12the world's problems. It's all coming up a jam morning. It's another J.R. morning with Chris Renwick, Lloyd Jackson and Jamie Edmonds on 760 WJR and streaming on WJR.com where Michigan comes to talk. All right, seven o'clock hour. Good to have you here on a Thursday. Chris Renwick, Lloyd Jackson, Jamie Edmonds, all with you. Jamie, any tear shed as you were dropping Olivia off at school yesterday? Yeah. It is my husband put it. It was the older one. Oh, that's good. So she's back in school then that's a good thing. She's yeah, her first day of preschool was yesterday and she just walked right in guys and when I picked her up the teacher said she did amazing. So proud of it. So you can ask for. I remember when we took Henry to his first day of preschool. He just walked in. And I'm like, no, no, you don't get to just do that. You're supposed to be upset. I'm supposed to

34:14be upset. We're all supposed to have a good cry. And no, now he's just like, see you. I guess that's a good thing. Yeah. All right, let's get to the headlines. President Donald Trump hit line the night one of the Republican National Committee's inaugural midterm convention in Dallas urging voters to treat November's elections as a referendum on his presidency and an unprecedented move. The president promised every adult American citizen the $5,000 cash payout dubbed a Trump dividend if Republicans maintain control of both the House and Senate. The pitch comes as the president faces 65% disapproval of his handling of the economy amid rising inflation and energy costs tied to the military conflict in Iran. Trump framed the midterms as a critical choice warning that a democratic victory with this matter, his border policies and tax cuts. Pennsylvania Democratic Senator John Federman made a surprise appearance at the convention last night delivering a video message endorsing bipartisan cooperation with President Trump. In the recorded video, Federman stood in

35:18front of a Pennsylvania still mill praising his Republican colleagues, Senator Dave McCormick as a great friend. Federman said he rejects socialism and extreme politics pledging to work alongside McCormick and President Trump to defend the state's steel industry. A massive fire heavily damaged the historic Lockmore Club and Gross Point Woods crews from all five Gross Point communities responded yesterday as flames and thick smoke poured from the club's main building. Just off Mac Avenue, no injuries were reported. Witnesses say the fire appeared to begin in the kitchen before spreading into the attic, but officials have not confirmed the cause or released any damage estimate. Detroit City Council exploring alternatives to DTE energy after last week's storms knocked out power to more than 450,000 customers. Councilmember has voted unanimously to study how other Michigan communities, including Wyandotte and Arbor, are meeting their energy needs. 16 former University of Michigan hockey players of FIOTO Federal Lawsuitoletching Gears of ritualized sexual hazing inside the program,

36:19the anonymous plaintiffs say that between 1984 and 2001 young players were forcibly stripped, shaved and subjected to other sexualized abuse by older teammates. Apple has unveiled a new iPhone redesign. It's a company's first foldable model. The new iPhone Duo opens to provide Apple's largest ever phone display and can also be positioned upright, but the new design comes with a big price. The Duo starts at about $1900 and the Tigers win 72. Yesterday they won a series. Terrific. Just get to the end of the season. Just limp on down. This lamp went on down. Jamie, what happened at Lockmore? Oh my gosh, you guys. I'm very upset about this. This is a place where my family goes. I mean, her baptism was there. We have mothers day there. We have the Santa brunch there. We had my father-in-law's brother's funeral there. That's our spot.

37:21That's certainly where I golf, too. We started getting texts that there was a fire there, but it was in the kitchen and it would spin contained. I'm like, okay, fine. Then all of a sudden, it just from what we have been told through the rumor mill that it got up into the attic and spread and now the buildings are total loss and we're all very, very upset. I had caught a little bit. I think it was Channel 4 that had chopper. I had the chopper up over it. I texted you right away. I'm like, I hope you're not at the club. I mean, I just couldn't believe it. It was raging by that point. Yeah. We'll talk about it later on this morning. I contacted the historian there at the club about just the history that's lost, but also what is happening with country club building buildings? Right. Western burned down, Oakland Hills burned down. Now Lockmorth burned down. What's going on? I don't know. So, yes, we'll talk to Tom Jurg or we'll get his perspective on all the history that's happened at Lockmore over the years. Also, last night, night one of the Republican convention,

38:25and maybe you'll get a little extra money in your pocket. I will issue a dividend to every adult citizen in the United States of America for $5,000. Get a little extra money in your pocket. What is that? Oprah. Oprah. You get a car. All right. All right. All right. All right. Could we find a better version of that? Cheats or peets? The crowd ruined it. I couldn't find a better version. Yeah. I don't know what we're doing. Just handing out money. I don't get it for all of the, the, the, the, the, the flag that, you know, Democrats get or Socialist get given all these free programs away free money, free, free, free, I got Donald Trump last night doing it. Yeah. Five grand, five grand, and I, you know, we're already four trillion in the whole. Just add another billion. No big deal. I think this had a trillion price tag. Yeah. So like, how would

39:29you pay for this? Well, you would say what you pay for the 40 trillion. Jamie, how do you spend your dose, your dose refund check or that tariff check or the tariff check? I didn't see any of that. Did you know I didn't either. I didn't either. But yeah, it was a rally last night. I, I, I expect a lot of the same. They're trying to drum up support amongst Republicans and that's all well and good. I just, I don't know if it really hit the mark last night. And it really wasn't about drumming up support from any other, you know, from independence or anything. It was all about the rep getting them to the polls. Well, and that's what they've struggled with Republicans historically and midterm elections have struggled to come out and turn out the vote. And that's something to say when he's not on the ballot. Well, that's it. That was, that was his, his, his, uh, his case is just pretend I'm on the ballot. If you want to finish out what we started, then you got to make sure that you go out and vote. Interesting. 712 time for W. J.S. Business. Be brought to you by shelving.com. We rack your world. Here's your Sloan, the founder and CEO startup nation to spot

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42:33Start with the call. We have to be called when we get over to cash. Dr. Steve Craig, the president of Craig Consulting Group and Craig Counseling Services. Good morning to you. Good morning. All right. What have you brought us today, Dr. Steve. My fiance and I are going to be married next summer and we are now finalizing the invite list. But she has a major issue with my sisters on and off, but mostly on boyfriend because he drinks too much. Says obnoxious things and is allowed mouth. It might be Chris. No, no, no. No. He has been sorry, sorry, sorry. He has been very rude at a few of the recent family events and she is afraid he is going to ruin her big day and is insisting he not come. Her mother, her sisters, her friends and I all agree that he should not come because this is the bride's day and we can't have him ruining the big day. But my sister would be devastated and she might not come then. She's my only sister and I would be very upset if she wasn't

43:33there. So how do I trump my fiance's wishes? Do I trump my fiance's wishes and allow him to come with her so I can have my sister be there? But you know, or do I just how exclude him and go with my tuned to be wife's wishes? And if I'm going to do that, what do I say to my sister? Well, to me, you know, your future wife's comfort and trust come first on a wedding day. I mean, I just think you tell your sister you're like, hey, sis, love you. It would mean a lot to have you there, but you know, because of your dues, behavior and past family events and, you know, we're just not comfortable with inviting him. And I'm not punishing you by saying this. I'm just letting you know this is how I feel and it's really about protecting the peace of that day. That's a special day. It's a special day. Now, you know, I hope you understand. I hope you still come. I want you there. I love you, but I just don't want to. I'm not going to destroy the day because of him.

44:36All right, Jamie. I think you kind of do what Lloyd said, but you say he can come. He's just on a short leash and everybody talks about it and communicates what the issues are. And if something goes awry, then you have some big burly like security guard kick him out. Grimzmann. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, I can tell you when I got married, there were people that came that I didn't particularly long there. And then at some point, like, you don't see those people. Like, you don't interact with those people. You don't even remember half of your wedding. You're running around well, talking to everybody. And unless that up not just person gets up, not just starts acting crazy at that reception. Yeah, I think I think the message here is like, he can't get crazy. It's flat out. He can come, but he can't get crazy. All right. No, one of the cool things in my job is I get to see the future, not because I have invited to a lot

45:38of wet. Not because I have you a profit because I'm some profit. But what happens is this couple could be in my office at nine in the morning, but them 20 years ago, who had to make this decision, and 30 years and four years are in my office at 11 o'clock and 12. So I see people who had to make the same decision, what happens? I get to see. And what, you know, we did something like this so while ago, which was I talked about the ghosts. You know, we have to try not to live with ghosts that the things that keep reminding us. And what happens is that the people who had, you know, boyfriend, Louis come and make a scene, they can get over the conflict. Ah, he came, he, he was an idiot. He did whatever they didn't like it, but they get over it. But you can't get over the fact that if she ends up marrying this guy and for 30 years, there's an a thorn in everyone's side because you didn't invite me to your wedding. Like we can get pat, he, if he comes

46:40any makes a scene, he makes a scene, you actually get over that. You can't get over the other stuff. But, but I think it's based on something that I think we, we have to question two. It's, yes, it's the brides day. And we like to say it's 100% the brides day, but it's not 100%. Yes, it's really close. It's her big day. I'm not trying to say it's 50, 50 or something, right? But nothing is 100%. Nothing is, I mean, I could this weekend, I could play golf, watch the lines, game, play pickleball, goof around my friends, but I still have responsibilities to other people in my life. And that's because I have relationships. And I can't just say some days it's 100% about me. And so while your wedding is important, it's an important day to you. It's also an important day to other people. So it's not 100%. And so the way you, everything you handle reveals so much

47:43about you, everything you do. And if you don't want the message to be, it's 100% about me and everyone else's feelings be damned. I'm just disregarding them. And that's the problem that people deal with for the next 30 years is that you didn't care about my feelings. I loved Bob and you wouldn't, and now I'm married to him. You can't disregard other people's feelings. Your message should never be sometimes it's 100 and 80% about me and zero about you. That's the problem here is that that's what they're falling prey to. So, but you can say, like you guys said, I would say to the sister, whoever is important to you is who I want you to bring because you're my sister and what's important. You know, you're part of this family. But we need you to manage it. Because it's also our wedding and he has a history of doing these things. So I'm specifically going to give her that responsibility. I want you there and I want you there with whoever's important to you. But you owe, you have responsibility to me to handle it. He gets out of control.

48:44He's out of here. Yeah. And handle it. Because I'm not letting him ruin the day. But I'm also you're important to so you're coming. Well, just that's a better that won't be that won't be fought about for 30 years. Right. But couldn't that also flip too. Like so if he comes and he cuts up at the wedding and now for 30 years every time I see my sister, I'm like, you know what? Jack my wedding up man. And you know, and exactly. But what I'm saying is, but we can get over that better. Okay. Because we do the sister we ever talk about it. And she would say, you're right. I tried to handle them. That's why I never married him. And you're right. I screwed that up. But I tried. Yeah. Okay. We can get past that. We can't get past. You didn't come. You didn't. You didn't. I didn't invite my my life. Long boyfriend. The love of my life wasn't invited to your wedding. And now I'm still mad at you. You can't get past that. Yeah. Jamie. So you get over the conflicts. So I was right. I mean, did you guys have people you're wedding that you didn't particularly care that they were there? Marie did. And I mean, all the people I had.

49:47I like everybody. But Marie has some people that, you know, she didn't really care to be there. Yeah. I mean, you're like life changes to people that were super important to you back then, maybe aren't as much now. And now they're all over the wedding video. Right. Yeah. I had people. I had people like, why are they coming? Right. Well, why? Right. And then I go actually, I don't care. Whatever. But that makes the point is that they're not hunting you now because they came and even if they made a thing, we got over it. Yeah. No. And I just never interact. We said, hi, thanks. And then you I never saw them again. Nice gift that I would have. But if your sister and really wanted someone to come and you didn't, she'd still be saying to you now, wow. And so you got to avoid the the ghost because that's what I deal with. That's what happens in my office. I hear the ghosts from 20 and 30 years. So don't make a one day problem of 30 year probably. All right. Very good. All right. Dr. Steve, we appreciate you as always. Thanks for popping in. Coming up on the other side, Tom. Jürger is going to join us. We'll get you caught

50:50up on the headlines. Tom's a historian at Lockmore. Terrible situation at the clubhouse there yesterday. We'll talk to him coming up at Sharemore. Paul W Smith can be found on focus from new to 2 p.m. on 760 W J R now back to J R morning with Chris Renwick Lloyd Jackson and Jamie Edmonds. Well, historic lock more club and gross point woods sustained heavy fire damage. Yesterday, here's who have started in the kitchen spread very, very quickly. And for a club that's over a hundred years old, a lot of history has taken place at Lockmore. Jamie's a member there. So let's talk up to Tom Jürger. He's a historian at Lockmore. He was actually inside the building when when it caught fire. Tom, good morning. It's good to have you. Good morning. Hi, Tom Jürger. Actually, it wasn't myself that was in the building. It was my wife. Oh, your wife was there. Okay.

51:53I was hard working. Yeah. I actually saw Kathy and Tom last night when Ryan and I walked over. All of us are just sort of walking over, watching at burn. We're so sad because it's more than just a building, you know, all our family events and all of the things we do socially is there, right, Tom? Exactly. I mean, multi-generational is the way it is. And it's not just the membership. It's the love of the staff that make it so nice for us and always have through the years. And you know, Tom, the club's original, the original clubhouse was destroyed by fire way back in 1924. What do we know about how the members and the community kind of rally together to rebuild after that first devastating loss? Well, you know, there's some similarities here. I'm so proud of our board of directors, our president, Thomasine Marx. As that fire was still raging,

52:55they convened meeting to put together contingency plans of those I know nothing, but they're getting after it. And that's how it happened back in 1924. The board of directors met down at the DAC and they got out right away. And the community was very supportive at that time. Now that clubhouse burned down in 1924 and a new one opened up a year later. Wow. And then that day, yeah, and it was a really nice building. Unfortunately, the footings went bad on it. And so a new, this, you know, more modern clubhouse had burned down yesterday. That was that was opened. I think it was Thanksgiving Day 1969. What about the overall history and what has been saved? Do you know that yet? Well, I'm getting reports that the what we call the LAC or the tennis house. That way in the back of that tennis house, there's some storage areas and I had I had gone through all the

53:55archives and there was a lot of them. They were in bankers boxes and things like that. They were on top of each other. They weren't being stored really well. But I got everything into the, you know, the good rubber made containers. Yeah. So they would be able to withstand water. And my understanding is that that structure did not get affected by the flames. So I'm I'm hopeful at all that's there. Now there was four, you know, display cases that were jammed full of things that were in in the board of directors in the front. I'm not understanding. That's all gone. That's all gone. So sadly. And so now you there's obviously still fire investigations that are going on. There's going to be a lot of work on the investigation side before anything really can happen in earnest. But all of this historical records and memorabilia and trophies and photographs that you have, how do you imagine that that is going to is going to shape the way that this club

54:59will look in the years to come? Well, I hope to get as much of that information out to, you know, to instill the, you know, the family pride, a lot more clubs that, you know, we've we've been through many things. We've been through two pandemics. We've been through a world, you know, a couple world wars, the Great Depression. And yet we still stand in this, this fire is not going to stop us. And you know, given that lot more, I mean, it successfully overcame that fire back in 1924 and built this a century-long legacy afterward. How does that history, really, of resilience give you hope for the clubs next chapter today? I have great confidence. As I said, I'm so proud of our board, you know, convening so quickly. I think it's just kind of the nature of this town. We're

56:00gritty people in the Detroit area. And we don't let things like this knock us down. You get back up. I really feel that from the inception of this club that that's the way it was. And it is. Tom, do we know anything about our beloved staff members who've, you know, seen Olivia grow up? Like it's the same people every day when you walk in there. You know, Steve at the front and Karen and Ryan behind the bar. Just do we know anything about the employees? Because we're not going to have a place to go eat for a while. No, I know nothing about that. I know nothing about that. I saw a lot of them had had come over and were, you know, kind of huddled together watching, you know, before the sun went down. But I know nothing about any of the plans. Well, that is that is very, that's a very sad aspect. And then this is their life and their job. So yeah, yeah. No, it's a terrible situation

57:03all the way around. Thankfully, it sounds like nobody was hurt though. Which is the best news of all of this. Tom Jürger, we appreciate your time this morning. Thank you so much. And keep us up to date on this and we'll continue to follow the story. Sounds good. And if you ever want to know some of the crazy history there, I'm happy to have it and share that. Yeah. No, no, thank you. Tom, appreciate it. Okay. Yeah, we'll talk soon. But I mean, Jamie, my goodness. I mean, we've seen other historic clubhouses go up in flames, open hills recently, you know, just a few years ago. Yeah. So I mean, you know, this is a long road now, a long process for you guys to lock more. Well, yeah. And just like the family aspect of it is what, you know, I'm thinking of, of course, with the Santa brunches and her birthday parties, and everything we do over there, that's what makes me sad and all my friends were chatting. We've been chatting since yesterday. But the thing that I've gone through this year does put it into perspective. Yeah, sure. I'm sure it's a building. It will be rebuilt and the legacy of lock more

58:05will continue. I mean, what Tom said, I was surprised is that even back in 1924 when it was destroyed by fire, they had it back up and rebuilt in the year. So, I think things are a little different now. I would think I would think it would be a little easier now. Like it would probably be harder back then because we have different equipment, different things now that we can use. So, you know, if they did it in a year back then in 24 after we could probably do it. I think the permitting process is a little more difficult now. A little more laborious, little red tape. And like, you don't want to do more process. Yeah. Yeah. Right. You don't want to go until. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. You don't want bad footing on that next. No, we know. On the fourth iteration of the clubhouse at Lockmore, but thankfully nobody was hurt. You know, the thing you guys weren't there. Yes. You know, but but again, it's now it's the rebuilding process. A lot of memories, but good memories now. Once this is back up and running. That's right. Everything will be nice and new. Yeah. Yeah. All right. We'll take a break coming up on the other side. What are some of the top

59:09tips for recent college grads when it comes to growing their careers? We'll talk about it. Coming up with the CEO of Walsh College at Chair Morning. All right. Well, K-12 students here in the state are back in school. Colleges are back in session, but it also means for those recent college grads who graduated at the end of last year, maybe we'll graduate mid-year at the our wonderful Institutes of Higher Learning. That means that they are entering the job force. Yes. Now. And so what are some of the big things that they need to remember in order to be successful early on in their careers and continue to build forward? It's what we're talking to Dr. Susie Segal, the president and CEO of Walsh College about today. Dr. Susie Segal, good morning. It's good to have you. So much. I'm so happy to be here. Well, we're happy to have you. So let's talk a little bit about what you are telling recent graduates. How should they traverse their early workforce career? Yeah. Absolutely. This is a

1:00:09great question. Thank you for asking it. So, you know, it sounds counterintuitive because they just graduated, right? And for me to say, education is life long, especially in this age of AI. You know, while our students are graduates have accomplished something incredible, you want to continue to invest in yourself. They curious and commit to lifelong learning. I know for me, when I finished my undergrad, I thought, oh, I'm done. I'm not possibly going back to school. And yet it has been lifelong learning that has opened incredible doors of access and opportunity. So as much as you have finished one thing, keep going, invest in yourself. It will pay lifelong dividends. Second thing I would tell them, your network is your network. You want to build your well before your thirsty. So make sure you're nurturing those connections that you are, you know, following advice from people who's lies, you admire, right? How many times do we take advice from people who are like, I would have wanted their life, right? So build that network because that will sustain you through good times and through rough times in your career. The other thing I tell them is nowhere you're going. Have a vision. You know,

1:01:11I have a very detailed vision statement for my life, for my role at Walsh College as a president. You know, exactly where you want to be and what you're doing and look at it regularly because it will keep you untracked. Now, I can keep going. I know we just hit number three. Want me to keep going? Keep going. All right. Number four, help others. You know, especially when we first graduate, we can feel like, okay, we've got to get our lives in order. We've got to get our finances in order, our career, and you have to do that, right? Because you're no good to the world unless you have your professional and your path mapped out, but help others. How can you pour in to serve and help others? Because that's going to lead into the very next thing, which is your purpose versus your gifts. So you've probably heard this too, where students will say, I just want to find my purpose. And what I have found through years of working with people, students, leaders, professionals is where you're natural gifts, where your abilities, where what you love to do lights you up, align with the needs of the world. There is your purpose. And you know, that may change in a few iterations of your career and your life, because the needs of the world change. So finding your purpose is literally saying, where can I show up for others and the world to make massive contribution?

1:02:15And if you notice, none of those things talk really about anything tactical or anything that really requires a lot more than just a great level of self leadership. But that's what I would tell you in the timing couldn't have been perfect, because we just had a career fair last night on our campus. And I got to share this with so many of our students. Well, Dr. Asi, you know, I want to go back to the first tip, you know, education is life long. What does lifelong learning actually look like for somebody say balancing a full-time job, you got a family, and you got other responsibilities? Oh, no, 100% absolutely. Well, we do it anyway in a lot of ways, right? How many times do we go on YouTube or chat or applaud to learn something that we want to know? Now, imagine if you could tap into a learning community and we offer this at WALS right through our continuing learning and professional development, but it doesn't have to look like another degree. Now, it can, because if you go to a place that has flexible modalities, you know, we do, we definitely want to work with people in our doctoral program. For example, I've got people in the C suite that are between their taking care of parents or taking care of kids, but really what it looks like is a commitment to always grow and develop. And we're seeing this with AI. How many folks are saying, you know what?

1:03:19I really need to get trained up. I mean, myself, I've taken classes, certifications in AI and machine learning because I know for me and my role, it is so important to bring that to the campus to make sure we're training our students. So I would tell you it's an open mindset, but it's also knowing how to integrate that into your life and to scale time. Like this morning, I was audible in a book while I was running. So I'm literally using an hour of time exercising and listening to a book. Our students can do that with their classes, with their learnings, with their lectures. That's what it means. It's a commitment to building this in so you are always investing in yourself. I was wondering about number two. I mean, networking is an art and is there a way for students when they get there to learn this because you have to do this your whole life. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. You're doing a great question. So let's go to last night. We had a career fair on campus. And I would tell you that it's an ability to say there's power to being in rooms with people who want to talk business and network and growth and career. So we have some students and alumni come to our career fair last night. It weren't necessarily looking for a new

1:04:21job, but they wanted to make connections because they saw an opportunity to be in the room with employers to build future connections for their career. So when we say networking, we get this image right of these business cards and these morning breakfast that we go to and hand out. But it's really asking curious questions. This is what I do all the time to businesses, to leaders, entrepreneurs. What are you looking for in talent? What could our workforce today look like to better help you? How could I better serve you? It's being able to ask those questions and build those connections and then ask for advice. You know, how many times is networking saying, what advice would you have for me as an emerging professional? I just got my degree or I'm just earning my masters. What are you looking for in hiring? It's staying curious, it's staying learning, it's building that trust and authenticity. And sometimes you don't even have talk business. It's just getting to know people because now you have an inside connection somewhere that a resume that doesn't won't have. And how many people have you heard say, oh, you know, I send all these job applications and I never hear back, right? It's the people that have their connections, that network is their network that helps them. And if you are between jobs or there were layoffs, we're seeing a lot of

1:05:23adding companies having a powerful network that can refer you and get you right in. That's amazing. Dr. Susie Segal, we appreciate your time this morning. Thank you. It's great advice for recent college friends. Yeah, we appreciate it. We'll talk again very soon. I just remember after college, you know, I think it takes a little bit of time too for a lot of this to sink in with recent college grads because I remember what I, I mean, Jamie, when I got out of college, it was go. It was hustle. It was grind. It was get to the next thing. And then eventually I became more curious. And then I wanted to learn more. And then like, I think a lot of that stuff, it's great advice to start instilling as soon as possible into these grads. But then you kind of start to pick it up along the way. Yeah. And I think you're now in the real world and you're like, okay, I better get serious about this. And let me call this person or let me go to this event and start networking and get things done. And you know, for people who have, you know, been out of school for

1:06:24a long time, you know, and they're into their careers and they want to change. Sometimes they hesitate, you know, changing direction because they feel like they've invested so much into one career. And so, you know, you want to do something. And so you have those connections that will help you kind of transform and maybe get you into that next career if you have those connections. Yeah, certainly. Also, the NFL started last night. Did it? Yes it did. Oh, the NFL started last night. Oh, okay. And we ran into a real conundrum in our house because Jake wants to watch football all the time. Uh-huh. But I'm like, hey man, it's too late. Like you can't, you gotta go to sleep. You have school tomorrow. And it turned into this big thing in our house. And I'm like, you, I mean, Jamie, I'm sure you get it too, where it's like they want to go do things, stay up late. And I'm like, I think you're just trying to prank me. Like I think you're, you're trying to pull a fast one over on me because you want to just stay up. Uh-huh. But the NFL got on the way. Olivia told me last night, sleeping's not her thing.

1:07:27Olivia. Pretty smart. All right, let's take a break. More next. It's not just morning. It's a J. R. Morning with Chris Renwick, Lloyd Jackson and Jamie Edmonds on 760 WJR and on the WJR app where Michigan comes to talk. Welcome back eight o'clock hour here on a Thursday morning, Chris Renwick, Lloyd Jackson and Jamie Edmonds all with you here to, uh, get you on your way to work. And we a lot to talk about the Republican midterm convention was last night. Let's get into it. The Republican National Committee kicked off its first ever midterm convention in Dallas yesterday, leaning heavily into President Donald Trump as the party works to energize its base ahead of November. Dup Trump, a paulooza. The event featured the president imploring supporters

1:08:29to act as if he were on the ballot. He were proposing this $5,000 Trump dividend for adults if Republicans retain the House. However, the event comes among looming political headwinds with National polls showing the president's approval rating at 39 percent Democrats now favor to retake the House in key forecast. Dozens of vulnerable Republican candidates opted to skip the Texas gathering altogether, Vice President JD Vance and the president are both set to address the convention again this evening. Massifier heavily damaged the historic lock more club and gross point works. Crews from all five gross point communities responded yesterday as flames and thick smoke poured from the club's main building just off Mac Avenue. No injuries reported. Witnesses say the fire appeared to begin in the kitchen before spreading into the attic, but officials have not confirmed the cause or released any damage estimates. Mayor Arthur Bryan says the building will likely be unavailable for a long time. The private country club opened more than a century ago recently underwent major renovations. Its original clubhouse was destroyed by fire

1:09:30in 1924. Detroit police have shut down a Westside smoke shop following allegations that it sold vape products in marijuana to minors. Police say they received a tip about fire cloud smoke shop located on Joy Road near Greenfield. Investigators say undercover officers entered the business and were sold marijuana. Officers later executed a search warrant and reportedly recover their fire arm along with what police described as substantial amounts of marijuana fire, assistant chief Franklin Hayes, first assistant chief. Franklin Hayes says businesses like this continue to appear across the city, but police maintain they are committed to finding and closing them down. Meanwhile Detroit City Council is exploring alternatives to DTE energy. After last week storms knocked out power to more than 450,000 customers. Council members voted unanimously to study how other Michigan communities, including wine.nan Harbor meet their energy needs. Some members criticized Detroit's independence on a single utility. But council president pro tem Coleman young the second says the vote begins a conversation, not a concrete plan to replace DTE.

1:10:37And Michigan State Police is turning to the public for help solving some of the state's cold cases. MSP has launched this new website where people in search cases by region read summaries of what investigators believe happened and submit information directly to police. The department has roughly 200 cold cases open in every any given time. 11 investigations are currently featured online, more expected to be added. Visual State detective selected the cases with the approval of the victims families. And Apple has unveiled its biggest iPhone redesign yet. The company's first foldable model. The new iPhone duo opens to provide Apple's largest ever phone display and also be positioned upright. The design comes with a premium price. Duo starts at about $1900. I'm good on a foldable iPhone. You're good on that. I just don't need it. Who needs a foldable phone? What's the big screen? Big screen. But then haven't I protect the screen?

1:11:39You got to protect. I got to hope they make something that you can protect the protector. Yeah. Of course, that's going to cost another. So, you know, it's all right. The phone is $1900. The phone is $1900 already. So yeah, I don't know. It's odd. I talked to somebody who had one of these. Okay. And apparently, if you folded a few times, the middle forms a crease. Yeah. And it doesn't, the video doesn't work as well in the middle after a while from all the folding. You would think that something that they would have adjusted. Well, yeah. And maybe they have with this one. Yeah. You know, Sam's song's got a foldable phone. Yeah. Out. And I thought, I love the idea of the foldable phone. But I, if it's going to crease in the middle, that seems like, no, I don't want that. Yeah. No. They also released the iPhone 18 Pro and the Pro Max and they cost about 100 books more than it did last. Yeah. What did you guys make? Jamie, we'll start with you. What did you make of the events last night at the Republican midterm convention in Dallas? Well, it felt like a rally, like the same kind of rallies that we've been seeing from the president this whole time. That's what it felt like to me. Yeah. I mean, he talked about a number

1:12:44of things. He talked about what's at stake in this election. You're going to lose your butter. You're going to lose your tax cuts. You're going to lose your safety and security. You're going to lose your wealth. Our country is going through hell. You will be going through hell just like you did just two years ago. We went through hell. We were a laughing sock all over the world. I think he had to catch himself because he's like, oh, I'm president. I've been president now for two years for a couple of years. I, that, too, many sounds more like a presidential run. Like, that is a clear line of the linearization of there is going to be a new leader of this country. And here are the, the, the, the contrasting views. It's, but he's still going to be president. Yeah. It could come Christmas. Like that, that hasn't changed. And he will be for the next two years. But he still needs the rubber stamps. Right. But when he says, like, you're going to lose your tax incentives, I don't think that that's not true because he'll still be there. Yeah.

1:13:45If anything were to get to his death that passed through Congress, he would have told it. Yeah. So I, it felt like he was still very much focused on like the creating the contrast between him and another candidate him and Joe Biden or him and Kamala Harris when it's just, it's not that type of race. Jamie, are you going to be looking for that five grand? Do you want it up front? Or do you want it after you make you got to take the lump sum? Well, I'm still looking for the $5,000 doge dividend. The $2,000 stimulus checks because of the tariffs and the $1,000 checks via the ACA savings. So I'm waiting for that first. Then I'll put my 5,000 dividend into the bank. It'll have to be one large check, Jamie. There's it all over it all together. So the one 41 trillion dollars in debt. And you're talking about a four, a 1.3, 1.4 trillion dollar bill to pay everybody five grand. Doesn't make any sense. And again, for a party that rails against, you know, some on the left that are like free, free, free, free, free, free, free. We want you to free, free, free, free, this free.

1:14:48That here's why you should vote for us because everything's going to be free. And then you're handing out $5,000 checks. Okay. It's just, it just, it doesn't compute with me. And here's the other problem too. I think that Republicans, they're in a, a nice spot monetarily. They got the money to put a diva on like this. The DNC does not. No, they don't. The Democrats do not. They don't have this type of money. So I understand what they're trying to do. I understand that you want to whip up the base and get everybody out to the polls or get everybody to mail in their, their absentee ballot. But I don't know that they made the appeal to broad voters. Their messaging last night was for the people that are already on board. Yes. I don't, I don't know if he was able to get any more votes last night. Jamie, maybe I'm crazy. Well, also like maybe highlight the critical races, you know what I mean? And talk about those people who are actually running. That might be helpful. Yeah. Well, again, I don't know how much some of these candidates want that. I'm hoping to show up. They want to show up. I mean, I think, look, I mean, what's his

1:15:54disapproval rating in Michigan right now? Over 60%? Yeah. 61%. 61%. So I mean, it's not a real popular time to maybe align yourself with Donald Trump. If you're running in a swing state like Michigan or some of these other important states for Republicans, I don't know. It's, it's very tough. Eric Shaw on the Fox senior correspondent has a new 9-11 podcast. He's going to join us on the other side. Also, Tony, Jay Powers is sitting down with survivors as we get towards tomorrow, the 25th remembrance of 9-11. She's talking to these survivors and recounting these personal stories on this day that changed America forever. So I think we all have those memories of where we were on 9-11. Oh, yeah. What we found out what was happening and the all of the hard work of reporters all across the country. You were here covering that event here at WGN 24 years ago. And then I was at home because I don't think he was time for me to come in at the time. And then my wife at the time, she called me

1:16:55from her job and she's like, Hey, a plane just went into World Trade Center. And I was like, Oh, and I'm watching something else. So I turned on a cable. And I'm seeing the smoke come from there. And you know, we're talking on the phone. And while we're talking on the phone, I see the second plane hit. I was like, Okay, something's not right. Because at first, I thought maybe somebody had had a medical issue and they flew into the, you know, like, okay, I'm going to be an accident. But when that second plane hit, I knew. And then that's when I came in early and started working here. Eric Shawne, the Fox News senior correspondent also remembers that day reporting from ground zero 25 years ago. And in fact, this left another mark on him in many other ways. And he started a new podcast. It's called the rewind 9 11 podcast. And Eric Shawne joins us this morning. Eric, it's great to have you. Hey, good morning, Chris. Hello, Jamie. How are you? Well, what does this, what does this milestone, this 25th remembrance of 9 11, what does it mean to you? Does it take you back to that day?

1:18:00Wow. Yeah, it does. I can't believe it's been a quarter of a century. I mean, when I think of it, it's not like one day has gone by. You talk about that plane. It went over my head that morning. I'm walking to work. Beautiful fall September day, that blue sky. They talk about 9 11 and this plane at the jet line, it was like, I'm walking. It's like really loud. I looked up. It's kind of sloppy, kind of crabbing to the right. And it's like when the jet engines were like, you know, a thrust, as opposed to just flying, I'm like, man, it's really low. God, I thought it was going to hit more skyscraper. I'm like, no, my mind's playing tricks on me. It's going to go to LaGuardia Airport. No, turn the corner. It was a primary election day in the microwave advance and the new stations were there. And they're like, I'm playing at the World Trade Center. I'm like, that's the plane that I ran to Fox. As you said, there was a plumber NTSB official saying, well, probably a small plane got lost in the sun. I ran down to the assignment desk and

1:19:04said, no, it's an airline or I saw it. It's like a 737. And they said, you know, get up on the air right away. And I went up on the air, which on Scott on the Fox News channel. That's how we start our coverage. And then what? Go ahead, go ahead, Eric. Bob, just because they didn't that night went down to ground zero. And I hate that term for weeks and weeks. Well, you know, those first days, I know you believe survivors would still be found. What was it like when, you know, that hope slowly gave way to the realization that very few people would be rescued? Yeah, we basically, you couldn't believe it. Going down that night, it was just like a hellscape. But there was hope. I mean, the dust and the air that it was like a soup, a toxic soup, the dust was like six inches of this dust all over the place. But we had hope that that people would be pulled out. The rescuers and firefighters and police officers when they finished the ships would walk by us and they'd they'd say, oh, we heard a rumor. Oh, we got the they rescued

1:20:06some people from here. Oh, they got a guy here. They did rescue. They call it the staircase survivors. There are people under a staircase that were saved and someone else was rescued. But it took a few days for everyone to realize, no, they thousands of people vanished. Yeah, because of the the crush of those those office buildings, those beautiful towers. What is your reaction to the city launching this portal with 170,000 pages of documents dealing with air quality because you were someone that was in that air at the time going down as you said to ground zero so many times. Yeah, I it's like what took them so long? Why, you know, we knew when you're down there, you know, it wasn't good. It's all this dust and but we didn't know at the time and you've got the accurate bitter metal smell, which I still remember, you know, it wasn't good for you. But we didn't know that it has 350 chemicals. There's cancer causing benzene and asbestos

1:21:10and you know, Christie's how wetman the EPA administrator said, oh, they are safe. And Laura Manhattan, well, really was it? No. I think one of the legacies that is emerging now for my 11 is the fact that people are being killed in my view by al-Qaeda. Americans are being killed by al-Qaeda now. It's because of the people who are dying from 9, 11 related illnesses that I have some of those. It's a euphanism. No, al-Qaeda did it. 9,000 people have died from 9, 11 related illnesses. 60,000 of the diagnosed with cancer. 190,000 are in the World Trade Center health program. I'm one of them. And I, you know, that in November, I was at an uncontrollable cough. The doctor goes, oh, yeah, you got the World Trade Center cough. That actually is a cute chronic bronchitis. There's asthma. Men, get your PSHect. Mine went from, it should be a two or three. It went from

1:22:10seven, nine, 11, and like it another weeks. Take that. I had aggressive prostate cancer. I have a high probability of that. My PSA went to 20. So I get, I'm in the program. I get checked every three months for that. And then there's skin cancer from the dust. So I'm glad that some of this is being brought out now. But sadly, I think one of the legacies as we're seeing is going to have an increasing number of people who are dying and have died and are suffering now. That's the only reason I'm bringing this up to try and bring attention to the people who are suffering. I'm fortunate and lucky. I'm taking care of this under control. But I think that's something that most people, I didn't know there's 50,000 people I've cancered from this last year when I mentioned it on the air. So I think that's something to keep in mind. Well, God bless you for bringing that to our attention as well. I do want to ask you about your podcast, but you said something a minute ago. You said you don't like the term ground zero. Yeah, you know, when you go down there now and I would urge everyone, when you're in the York, go to the museum, go to the site.

1:23:14This has been, I think, one of the most difficult weeks I've had. I actually don't know why I have to say it because it's 25 years, but I've been reporting on the channel down at the site, the fountains and it gives me comfort and solace and it is a very moving, emotional experience that I would urge people to go visit the NALA for the moral of the museum, you know, when you come to New York City. And just quickly about the podcast. Yeah, we have a podcast at Fox News Podcast dot com hosted by Bill Hammer where we go through that whole day and I would urge people to listen and, you know, just think about our fellow Americans. We were united at that time and I wish we got, can get that back now and just keep your, in your thoughts and your prayers, although those people, the firefighters, the police officers, the incredible selfless bravery on the worst day, some of the best day of humanity came out. You know, I think that's something to keep in mind tomorrow.

1:24:15God bless you, Eric John, all the work that you do and did on that day to bring the latest information to everybody on such a tragic day and the lingering effects of it. We appreciate you so much. Thank you for your time and we'll talk soon. Absolutely. Thanks so much. Yeah. Yeah. You got it. Well, I mean, I didn't know that he had developed that World Trade Center cough, you know, but think about all that dust and he's almost six inches of it, you know, on, I'm sure cars and things, I mean, that's a lot, man. And, you know, people who are suffering right now from it and still, you know, even after 25 years after World Trade Center, people are still dealing with what happened in the effects. Yep. And a lot of people with cancer diagnosis. Yes. Yeah, cancer diagnosis is saying he's been battling that as well. But all the side effects of what was in those buildings, spilling on to New York City and the the rippling effects of it is staggering. All right, we'll take a break.

1:25:18Coming up next, Dennis Lennox joins the show, Longtime Political Commentator. He's got a new piece out. Trump appelluses a grift and not a convention. It's next. And as this has been built as Trump appellusa, Dennis Lennox says it's a grift and not a convention in Dennis Lennox, Longtime Political Commentator and a public affairs consultant joins the show once again. Dennis, it's good to have you back. Hey, good morning Chris. Always perfect to be on the great flu. Grift is a is a big word. Why do you why do you feel like this is a grift? It's not a convention. Even even Trump and the RNC and the people in the world admit that it's Trump appellusur. That's their words not mine. That it's the greatest Trump rally that's ever been held. Again, their words not mine. There were no delegates selected the way they usually are. The way they orchestrated this to get all of the various state Republican parties on board.

1:26:19There's a look you can charge whatever you want. So some of the state Republican parties go to $300,000 or ticket in Michigan. You know, tickets were I think five or $7,000 if you wanted to be a quote unquote delegate from Michigan. Whereas the conventions every four years are free for delegates. Members of Congress that they wanted to show up were $25,000. These people that supposedly President Trump wanted elected or reelected before the day. So why would you charge them $25,000 to show up? It really was and is because it's still going on an attempt by Trump and the RNC to capitalize on the American police control of Washington and try to extract a little bit more money from donors and special interests while they control all the levers of power. Dennis, I'm wondering, you know, with this around war and these rising gas prices, you know, weighing in on voters right now, did the President make an

1:27:21effective case for continuing that conflict or did he raise more political questions for Republicans or running? I don't think he's made an effective case whatsoever. And, you know, every time he sort of says there's a deal or things are happening, it's going to get better. That doesn't materialize. Clearly what Iran is doing right now is what they did to Jimmy Carter. They're waiting out Donald Trump. Either the remainder of his presidency or through the midterms when if he does lose one or both houses of Congress, he will be a complete lame duck and will have to capitulate to Iran and give them a much better deal than what they were otherwise get right now. I think my biggest objection getting back to this midterm convention, Chris and Void, my biggest objection is, you know, whether somebody paid $57 or $5,000 or $200,000 to go to this convention, whether the convention costs $20 million or $50 million to put on. I would rather have that as a Republican. I would rather have

1:28:27that money be spent for against the Republicans and Democrats, not on two days in dollars. With every penny that is being spent in dollars this week on this convention is a penny that isn't being spent on electing Republicans and defeating Democrats. And that's a good scratch for me. And you were saying that you hope it maybe doesn't work because if it works, this will be replicated again and again. Oh absolutely. If this somehow works, not only will the Republicans do this again, the Democrats will do this again. We'll do it. The convention in two years time, real actual convention every four years to nominate a presidential candidate. If you're one of the party starwarts out there who like going to these things, you can kiss your opportunity goodbye because they're gonna say, why don't you know what? You want to be a delegate? You're going to have to pay.

1:29:30And you saw it on the television last night. The seats weren't full. It was not a full arena. The other thing that you point out is we may not necessarily know where this money is coming from. That's correct because this wasn't done. This is a Republican National Committee or Trump's political action committee because the deal was each state Republican party to charge whatever it wants. It's up to state Republican party to figure out how they're taking that money and whether they're reporting it based on what their state requires. Michigan has disclosures, but Michigan also allows political parties to have off the dark money in Minnesota of accounts where nobody ever knows. Some states have no disclosures whatsoever. So I'm not mad. I mean, even though I have to think that we can't have money in politics, you have to have money in politics. But I think the public has a right to know who is giving money and who is buying access especially if you're selling tickets at $200,000.

1:30:36And you got some, I think the public has a right to know who's buying those tickets. Absolutely. And some of those vulnerable Republican candidates, they stayed away from Dallas last night. What does that absence tell you about the president's value or maybe his liability in some of these competitive races? If I were a Republican running in a swing seat in 54 days and actually it's found 54 days because ballots in Michigan drop in about three weeks. And about 60% of people in Michigan were vote by ups and deep ballot this year. I would stay away from Trump. And I'm not an ever-to-emperor. I just want to be clear about that. But his numbers are at historical levels in just about every state in the Detroit News WDIV poll yesterday. I think it was 64 or 65% of respondents in Michigan disapprove of his job performance. There is absolutely no reason if your Tom Barrett or Mike Rogers or Bill Heisinger in Michigan to be tying yourself to Donald Trump.

1:31:37Because people in these competitive races, they want to run their own race that catered to that area. Maybe they didn't want to come to this national stage in Dallas. Oh no, you're 100% correct. The Democrats are saying how will you praise Jesus because Donald Trump is nationalized as a select and made this election about himself. And look, that's always the problem in midterms for President's Democrat or Republican. But instead of allowing many of these candidates or many of these endangered incumbents to be running local races, he is making this about himself more so than what it otherwise would be. I would tell Bill Heisinger or Tom Barrett, two of the most endangered House Republicans concert both from Michigan, there's a look you need to be enrolled in the incumbent protection program right now. Interesting perspective as always, Dennis Lennox, we appreciate your time. Thank you.

1:32:40Thanks as always guys. Yeah, you got it. Meanwhile coming up on the other side, running opposite Mike Rogers, Abdul Al-Sahead joins the show. It's Chair Mourning. In state after state, the Democrat establishment has been overthrown and replaced by crazed lunatics and radicals. They call themselves Democrat Socialists, but actually they're communist and not Socialists. They're long beyond Socialists. In what was almost a two-hour speech last night, the president took aim at Democrats, the left, and he says they've gone even further than that. And also, named dropped a couple of times, was Abdul Al-Sahead, who's running for Senate here in Michigan and joins us this morning. Abdul, good morning. It's good to have you back. Good morning. What did you make last night? You were named dropped. He spoke for two hours and didn't talk a lick about the issues that Michiganers are facing. Didn't talk about your gas prices, better sky high. Didn't talk about the fact that you can't afford to see a doctor. Didn't talk about the fact that his tariffs are driving up the costs

1:33:45of our groceries. Didn't talk about the fact that in this country right now, we feel more unstable because of the onslaught of AI in the data centers he wants to put in our backyards. We talk about everything except for that. He loves to say my name. I don't know why, but I wish he'd just say it right if he decided to say it. But my name is not the reason you can't afford to gas or your groceries or to see a doctor. It's his policies and he wants to spend two hours talking about everything that's not that. And just remember, my broaders are going to be there today because when Daddy Trump says, give me a hug, my broaders, who's his cheerleader, is going to go and give him a hug. Even if it's in Dallas, rather than Michigan, I bet he's one every Dallas vote in Michigan, which is like four of them. Our job here is to be focused on the issues that you face. So I want to get money out of politics, but money in your pocket, past Medicare for all. You know, in his speech last night, your family was drawn into the national spotlight, specifically regarding the social media posts by your half-sister and past work by your birth mother. How do you respond when a national campaign targets a candidate's

1:34:46family members? And how do you navigate those personal political differences publicly? Just remember the reason he's talking about my family is because he doesn't want you to pay attention to his family. He's got Eric and Don Jr. a bunch of like struggle bus kids, nephews, and never done anything for themselves except for now they're making money going all over the world trading off of daddy's power. They as a family have made billions off the presidency and ask yourself where your family is. Are you able to afford your gas? Are you able to afford your groceries? Are you more secure in your living? Do you think your job is more secure today? Because Donald Trump is president. So like you can talk about my family as much as he wants. I think it's important for us to remember what his family is doing and more importantly what it means for your family. If your family is struggling the way that families across Michigan whom I've been talking to are struggling then I think we need to change just remember my broadest is going to be a sock puppet for Trump. He said he ran because Trump called him and asked him to. He's in Dallas right now sucking up the Trump because at the end of the day he's not here to work for you. He

1:35:47moves to Florida a long time ago. He's here to work for Trump. I want to ask you guys driving the car and I heard one of these super PAC commercials about you that you're going to let rapists and murderers out of prison if you're elected and you're too dangerous to vote for. I know you've talked about some sort of reform proposals. Respond to that ad is that true? Well look and by sign in Wayne County I did exactly the opposite. I walked into a Department of Health Human and Veteran Services. There was a catastrophe happening in the juvenile detention facility. I walked into clear to public health state of emergency to rebuild the operations in that facility. We raised the salaries 35% to make sure that we could continue to operate protect folks inside and protect folks outside from the folks inside. So you know folks don't want to actually have a serious conversation instead they want to cherry pick things that you said six years ago out of context. I want to be judged for my actual actions. My actual actions is when I had the

1:36:48opportunity to fund law enforcement protect our communities. I did that but I also believe that we have a responsibility to think about what we really want. Everybody wants to get home safely. That means that not every answer is going to be someone who's gone. You also have to be invested in mental health support and behavioral health response, community violence intervention, all things that the Trump administration have defunded and you've got to invest in recruitment, retention and retirement from law enforcement so that everybody gets home safely. I think that's a very reasonable approach to how we want to think about public safety. These folks want to make it out of context. I want to make it about real action which I've been a part of since I served in Wayne County and we'll continue to be a part of what I'm in the US Senate. I do want to go back to Lloyd's question because one of the things that I've heard from Democratic voters, strong Democratic voters is there's been there's been times when you haven't answered the question. So like going back to Lloyd's question about your family or Hassan Piker you've kind of skirted those. Do you feel like at some point you've got to respond to these questions as opposed to you know moving around

1:37:51the board a little bit? You know it's funny I have conversations with folks like you and I have conversations with folks all over the state just trying to make ends meet. They don't ask me about these things. I get it that's really good clickbait but I'm more focused on the issues that michi gander is asking about every single day when I'm out there in their communities across the 110 cities that I visited. I get that the media spectacle is such that you guys want to make the conversation about everything that's not relevant to everybody's life. But to be fair just to be fair. We're also citizens here in the state of michigan. We're also residents here. So I think it's fair to ask those questions. I encourage you to go have a conversation with other citizens who are struggling and ask what they care about. They're asking how can I afford my gas and my groceries. You want to talk about Hassan Piker who's a streamer in California. I think you've got to talk about my family who doesn't even live in the state. And I'm trying to talk about families that live in the state. I'm trying to talk about gas. I'm trying to talk about groceries and seeing a doctor. I'm trying to talk about why our politics have been so corrupted. And it seems like every single time

1:38:53Donald Trump says something everybody in the media says well I guess that's what we have to talk about now. No, the man is a carnival barker. And I'm sorry I'm not going to follow a carnival barker down he's carnival. I'm interested in actually making our politics work for everyday people. So it's not about scourging questions about answering the questions that most michiganers are actually asking and making sure that our conversation focuses on their lives rather than this carnival that we've turned our politics into. And you know you came out victorious in that very tight primary against representative Hayley Stevens and despite you know tens of millions of dollars and outside spending to try to stop your campaign what did that primary victory teach you about what michigan voters are looking for and how do you unite the party heading into November? Well, it taught me that people want money out of politics money in your pocket Medicare for all. You're not supposed to be able to beat $70 million about side spending. You're not supposed to be able to get out spent 11 to 1 and still come out victorious in the primary. You're not supposed to be able to build a movement that takes on commercial after commercial after commercial coming after

1:39:55your character for reasons that have nothing to do with what michiganers are actually facing. What it taught me is exactly what I just said that the media wants to have a conversation about everything that is not the issues at hand for most people. I want to have a conversation about those things. And I think when people are hearing me they're hearing, I really really really wants me to be able to see a doctor. He really wants me to be able to afford my groceries and my gas and he's willing to take on everyone including the conventional wisdom that tells us that our conversation should be about anything else but the issues I face. That's what was able to bring us through a primary that got us out spent $70 to 1 by groups like APAC and corporate PACs to be able to come out victorious in the primary and it's exactly what we're doing in this general election. Donald Trump wants to talk about everything that's a lot of folks in the media want to talk about everything else. I want to talk about why you can't afford your gas why you can't afford your groceries why you can't see a doctor why you're worried that your kids school doesn't look like it should 50 years on from when you went there or your grandparents went there. I want to talk about the issues michiganers face I'm going to keep talking about that up and down the street. I have dual outside we always appreciate your time

1:40:56thank you we'll look forward to our next conversation. Me too I really appreciate you all having me you got it we'll talk again very soon. All right that's going to do it for us today Kevin Ethan Alta coming up next see them all.