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0:00 Intro
1:25 The response to Glenn’s appearance on Tucker Carlson’s show
4:03 Are institutions like the University of Austin the future of higher ed?
11:31 Ground News ad
13:14 When social justice musicology came for John’s syllabus
17:42 What role should social justice play in academic study?
28:40 John’s trip to the National Museum of African American History and Culture
35:50 Will the museum survive Trump’s assault on DEI?
44:47 Are Glenn and John complicit in anti-DEI overreach?
55:30 The racial animus question in anti-DEI reform
Recorded on May 21, 2025
Links and Readings
Glenn’s recent appearance on Tucker Carlson’s show
The Chronicle of Higher Education’s interview with Glenn
Glenn’s forthcoming book, Self-Censorship
Glenn’s memoir, Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative
John’s conversation with actor Clifton Duncan
The BBC’s 1973 production of George Bernard Shaw’s Pygmalion, starring Lynn Redgrave and James Villiers
Khalil Gibran Muhammad’s book, The Condemnation of Blackness: Race, Crime, and the Making of Modern Urban America
Victor Herbert’s operetta, Babes in Toyland
John’s NYT piece on the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History and Culture
Glenn’s conversation with Brown University student Alex Shieh
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