Joe Rogan Calls Out MAGA DORKS On Podcast With Dave Smith

0:00Craving the coffee flavor you love, but without the caffeine. Kachava's got you covered with their newest coffee flavor. This all-in-one nutrition shake delivers bold, authentic flavor, crafted from premium, decaffeinated Brazilian beans with 25 grams of protein, 6 grams of fiber, greens, and so much more. Treat yourself to the flavor and nutrition your body craves. Go to kachava.com and use code news. New customers get 15% off their first order. That's K-A-C-H-A-V-A.com code news. No Joe Rogan did not say all of MAGA are dorks. He did slam the MAGA dorks, and he said that there are many people in MAGA, a lot of dorks, and the genuine patriots have to tolerate them. Now what I see here is of course a slow news cycle where everybody wants to put words in Joe's mouth because he represents the independence and the truth be told is that independence are breaking away from Trump. Trump is enjoying massive support from Republicans,

1:00namely those who view themselves as MAGA Republicans. However, support among general Republicans is down according to all of the polls. Once again, latest pull I think shows is in the 70s among Republicans. There is a lot of skepticism over whether or not the Iran war is worth it. Now I do want to say this. Hear me out independence and hear me out moderates. We've had quite a bit of conversation over the issue of the Iran war, and this conversation that's going viral where Joe Rogan says a lot of MAGA dorks will play in a second was with Dave Smith. And I'm seeing a lot of Trump supporters and conservatives saying, why does he keep having Dave Smith on? Dave Smith again. I like Dave Smith. I do, and I know there's a lot of people, you know this is the weirdest space to be in. I like Milo. Okay, Milo says bad things. Milo's been very good. He's been nice to me. He's been a friend. I'm not going to, I'm not going to attack people who are my friends because we disagree on things. I would never do that. I won't do it. And Dave Smith is also a friend. I'm not going to attack him over these things.

2:01And at the same time, Jack Passo because I mean, this is crazy, guys. I know everybody is sort of breaking apart in terms of how they view the world. But my friends were always allowed to disagree with me. They were always allowed to be critical. And I may be critical of things they do. But I got a lot of friends across the political spectrum. I'm entirely open to being friends with some of these liberals, but kind of crazy. So anyway, where we are right now is that Donald Trump campaigned on none of these wars. He did, however, he campaigned saying he'll never let Iran get a nuclear weapon. And so here we are, there's a big picture to this. And the big picture is that if you didn't see my video from yesterday, Trump has done it. This is the final move on the chess board. This is the most important strike for Trump. It's the Iran War. Trump has effectively isolated the global energy system, putting the United States at top of a new petro natural gas dollar. It's not just a petro dollar anymore. Natural gas has become a major energy component. And there's this thread that's been going massively viral. I covered yesterday and I'll show again for context.

3:03But I want to use the opportunity to first talk about why independence are breaking away. And then I want to give a little hope to him. Well, I'm not a big fan of these Middle Eastern wars. It's not me. You know, I've got criticism. Because last week, I said that if I could have voted for Dave Smith, I would have. And the point I'm making there is that this is one issue, the war with Iran. I don't support going in. What I will say is I do support my country and my president. And we must win this. It sucks, right? We didn't want intervention. I think Venezuela turned out well. And I am actually in favor of this, which I can go into in a bit. I lean away from these Middle Eastern interventions because of the the abject failures that we've seen in the previous ones. What being said, I don't know if it's effective to go on my show and just root for our own destruction or failure in this capacity. I think that in the long term, should Trump succeed, I think the game plan bears out that

4:06things are to get real good for Americans. And I'm not saying you have to support it morally. And I'm not saying it is morally justifiable, but economically, the big picture is there. But let me slow down. Let me show you exactly what Joe Rogan had to say. And this is being framed by a lot of people as if he is outright just saying, all MAGA is bad, which is is not correct. The reason I'll be completely asking you guys, why is it that this video is not just independence break from Trump? Well, Joe Rogan represents the the the every man. That's that's how it's viewed in the public space. The news, the left, the right. They see Joe Rogan as an every man, not a heavy political actor. When he broke for Donald Trump in 2024, it was a huge deal. And independence did get behind Donald Trump, not that they're following Joe Rogan, but that Joe Rogan exists in that space. So when Joe Rogan puts out a show with Dave Smith and he says these guys are a lot of more dorks, everybody takes notice, a poll is one thing, but your biggest podcast,

5:09every man saying it speaks more so to the emotional connection people have. You show me a piece of data and people will choose to ignore it or whatever, but human beings live through their experiences. And the truth is most people are first order thinkers. That means when you show them data, they're going to be like, huh? But when you show them a prominent personality saying it, it means more to them. Now, maybe you're thinking, well, I wish that wasn't the case. That's dumb. Why do people follow that? That's the reality, though. That's why celebrities are paid to make endorsements of products and politicians. Here's the clip. Out the phrase, make America great again. I don't care. But if that phrase sucks, here's the thing. Like, first of all, America is great. Make America greater, I'm down. But make America great again, and then it becomes a movement of a bunch of fucking dorks. Because a lot of them are dorks. A lot of them, these really weird fucking uninteresting, unintelligent people that have got something they cling to. And there's a lot of people that are just real genuine patriots.

6:10And they're all lumped into this one group. And you got to accept the dorks, too. He's right. Come on. You know what, man? They're absolutely these mega dorks, where it's like no matter what Trump does, there's just never any critical thought. It's true. And there were genuine patriots. Many of them are my friends. They don't blindly march and lock stuff with Trump. They're critical thinkers. And they are explaining why they think this is the right path. And those people, like Jack Paso, the great example, good guy, good friend, intelligent, reasoned, and will explain to you why he supports Trump, with facts and logic. But then there are these like dork accounts. I don't know if dork is the right word, but they mean blast. They seem to contradict themselves, because the only thing that matters is I'm aligned with Trump. It's first ordered thinking. And that is what the left will latch onto to attack conservatives and Trump supporters. Joe's not wrong on this. I mean, maybe you didn't like the way he explained it,

7:11but he was never going to be a red cap wearing mega guy. And the sooner I think these die hard maggot dudes that are dorky come to realize this. If you, if they realize this, heavens, they might actually win the midterms. Now a lot of people have said they're optimistic. You know, Mike Johnson the other day was saying that this, this Palm Beach defeat of, you know, a Democrat, one Palm Beach. It's a special circumstance. These special elections always happen like this. They're anomalies. And fair point. It's hard to know how these things will, will play out in November. But the argument is no one's going out to special elections except the opposition. Democrats right now see a special election and they rally because they're the underdogs. Republicans are the winners, so they don't focus on special elections. That being said, I would also put that argument to November. Now Mike Johnson, of course, can't come out and say, I think we're going to get crushed. He'd never say that. But I do think as Democrats are on the outs right now, they are going to trample in in the midterms.

8:13Yeah, and I do think they're likely going to win. However, if Trump can wrap up this around thing. And I think he can. I hope he can. But the rumors are guys more, more rumors that we're going boots on the ground. If that happens, I mean, Trump is cooked. And I don't mean a strategic global strategy. That's sounding pretty good for Trump. I just mean in terms of his support and then what happens in the midterms. So I'm going to go and say Joe is, Joe is correct. Oh, I don't even know why I've pulled it up. We have this from Sam Harris, who says his friend, Joe Rogan, has had an effing awful. Anyway, you know what? Shout out to a Meary King. I pulled him up because he's got a viral tweet that I was going to use for a different segment. But hey, while we're passing by, Sam Harris says his friend, Joe Rogan, has a effing awful influence in society. It's unenorable. Oh my god, dude. I just don't like. I can't stand all of these people. Let me tell you why Joe's just Joe. He's been the podcast guy for, I mean, we're going on almost two decades now.

9:15He was one of the OG podcasters. He had the biggest show still, still rivaling for the biggest show but the podcast space is relatively decentralized. And I just, the obsession with it is just so silly. So silly. Here's Sam Harris, who look at that face. Can you laugh a little bit? There's certain people who I've had as allies or colleagues or have promoted or been on podcasts with or had it my podcast or called my friends or they called me their friends or what. You know, people who I've been associated with who are just fucking awful influences on our culture. I was just on the trigonometry podcast. I don't know if that's aired yet. But being sure to see what actually came out of my mouth. But my memory, if memory serves, I ran down Joe Rogan pretty fully in that interview. Just being honest about what I thought about his effect on our culture. I mean, it was, I mean, I just think it's been, you know, it's not, it's not been all bad.

10:15But the bad parts have been truly terrible. No, no, no, no, no, just. And, you know, he certainly was a friend. And we've been out of contact for some time. And I've tried to reach out to him privately and he hasn't responded. But I felt the need to say things about him publicly that I'm very uncomfortable saying about a friend. But I just think it's, it's, it's, um, it's unignorable at this point. You know what I can't stand is a disloyalty dishonor. Kyle Kalinsky was a friend of Joe Rogan. He was on a show several times. And he turned on him and started making these posts, attacking him and insulting him. And I'm just like, I just, I can't stand any of these people, dude. Joe Rogan doesn't owe anybody anything. He's just a famous guy in this space. He stuck his neck out for so many people and they knife him in the back. I, I get it. I've experienced similar.

11:16I'm not certainly at that level of Joe. I owe a lot of the space that I have to Joe Rogan. He had me on a show several times. And I always bring this up when, uh, when I got sick. He covered the cost of the, uh, a covert treatment for not just me, but my staff as well. Joe was an incredibly honorable and good dude. And he is entitled to his opinions. And he is entitled to have on whoever he wants or talk to whoever he wants. And that's just the end of it. The man has only ever been good to me. And I don't see any reality where he was bad to Sam Harris or Kyle Kalinsky or any one of these other people who have come knives out to attack him because he's a guy with opinions. Tucker Carlson has always been very nice to me. I disagree with some of his opinions. I think he's certainly gone very heavy on the Israel stuff. But you're allowed to have opinions. So I don't know what else to say about it. I think some of the stuff that he put out was wrong. But I don't know if he was wrong or lying. And, uh, from what I know of the guy, he's been just who he is. A lot of people don't like that. I'm so sick of all of this. This space that we exist in

12:18is filled with the disloyal and the betrayers. So I'm going to say it again. And I bring up Milo quite a bit, uh, Milo and Apples because he's particularly contentious guy. And a lot of people don't like him. And yet through everything, he has never wronged me or at least in my face. I mean, people might do things behind your back. He's helped me out and he's been nice. And then I've had people message me being like, why would you have him on your show? Why are you friends with this guy? And I'm just like, bro, I have friends from from when I was younger who are just die hard lives. I mean, like, progressive to the end. And we don't talk about it. We largely just have you been. I just, I don't want to exist in this reality where the familial and the bonds of loyalty developed through being good to each other are severed because we have a differing opinion on, uh, tax policy or what Trump is or isn't doing

13:20or whether or not Trump is or isn't a criminal. I just can't exist in that reality. Okay. Sam Harris, like Kyle Kalinsky and his other people, I just can't stand the dishonor and the disloyalty. You know, I had this mini beef with Dave Smith. It was a very many because we were talking about ice. And I was like, people keep saying that the, the Trump voters are licking the boot. I was like, we're talking about it. It's my boot. I voted for it. And then people are like, are you still the boot Tim? I said, I am the boot. Guys, I voted for ice. They're going in arresting people. That's the point. And then Dave was like, that's, that's so cringed. Tim, you're playing video games. And, uh, and then we tweeted at each other. And, uh, he was like, this is Agit Prop. It's bad for Trump. I said, I completely agree with you. Completely agree. And then he was like, oh, and then I was like, I think we're talking past each other because we're seeing clips. And it's like fair point. I said, Dave, come on the show anytime. Dave's a friend and we can disagree on politics. And he can make jokes about me. That was always allowed.

14:20And it was funny because when he said this, I'm getting messages from people like, can you believe what Dave Smith said about you? And I was like, yes. It's like, I absolutely can. He's a comedian with strong opinions. And he believes what he believes. And it was always allowed. And I think right now we're all hyper focused on Iran and the war, which is a major issue. And, uh, you know, Dave, of course, is extremely passionate about these issues. This intervention and these things were always a principle issue for me on foreign policy. But I'm not so far in one of the other direction. Because, you know, I always, I always say this, uh, rapport is the most important thing in being, uh, influential and being convincing and getting your point across. So I know that I have deep concerns, um, well, I know that I do, but I do have deep concerns about intervention. And I fear that this could be a massive negative for the United States. I also do believe that there's a strong possibility. Trump could pull ahead on this and maybe something good comes of it. But I lean towards skeptical. Truth be told, as I've stated, I would not advise for it.

15:21I wouldn't vote for it. I would advise against it. Well, Trump went and did it. Now we're standing here with baited breath, hoping it doesn't get bad. My view of things is going to Trump's most ardent supporters and insulting them, calling them dorks or whatever it may be, is completely ineffective in understanding and changing or shaping this reality or convincing Trump to do anything. I am not going to go to Trump's most influential people and be like, you guys are dumb, that's just stupid. I'm going to say, explain to me your views and your thought process and let me try to respectfully agree or disagree. But the one thing we have to do is agree on the facts. What is actually happening in this world? And there is a possibility that Trump pulls through in this one and it's masterfully done. That's what I talked about yesterday. So again, as it pertains to anybody that I view as a genuine actor with differing opinions and Dave Smith absolutely falls in that category, I will not insult the man for having opinions. I have opinions too. So when people are like, did you see what he said? I'm like, well, it's Dave for you and then we went on Pierce Morgan.

16:24And Dave was like, I love you too. And thank you so much for having me on your show. I was like, anytime, brother. I like, we're allowed to disagree with each other. And this is true for liberals on the left. That's why we had Kyla on last week. The only real issue I think is that right now on the right, it's fragmented. But we all do agree on the base facts of what is going on for the most part. The left doesn't. I don't believe they engage in good faith. So when Joe Rogan's like, you got a bunch of mega dorks. I'm like, come on. He's not wrong. He said there are genuine patriots. They got to be lumped in with these people. Yeah, you know. But I'm not going to attack every mega person like this because I have a bunch of friends. I have friends who are a turning point. Even though I had kind of a beef with them as well, I'm going to put it like this. One of the most respectful things, one of the most honorable things I ever heard is my favorite quote is F you. He's my friend. I'm going to avoid swearing. But people come to me and they say things about Milo. And I'm like, F you. He's my friend. He pisses people off. Well, guys, I don't have to tell you.

17:26Let me talk to him. You know what I mean? If like, if people are beefing, same thing with Laura Loomer. She's, well, we've had some spats for sure, like when she came on the show and the show got pulled. But I don't have beef with her. I think she does tremendous work. She's extremely effective and her scoops, she nails it. I don't know why people expect me to start a fight with someone else. I'm just not playing this game. Same thing with Dave. And so people were attacking me because I said, I'd vote for Dave Smith. And I'm like, yeah, I stand by it because Dave Smith's core issue is not just one thing. Right now, there are deep concerns over what's going on at Israel and Iran. And Dave Smith's bigger picture play for the Libertarian Party was taxes going down, securing our border. It was all of this domestic policy that we really did want. And now that we are seeing Donald Trump engage in this war, a lot of people are choosing to side with it. And that's fine. But let me show you some other stuff. We can come back to this.

18:27Trump is losing support with independence. This is not me winging or insulting Trump supporters or Donald Trump. It's pointing this out because I do not want the Democrats to come and win in the midterms, but it's looking increasingly like they will. You need the moderates. You need to convince Joe Rogan's and Dave Smith's. I think the most effective means by which you could be convincing to Dave Smith. When he goes on Rogan, he talks about these things. It's not to insult him or call him Wikipedia Dave or anything like this. It's to say, can we, can we, this is bad? It's worthy of criticism. I think criticism would be a good deterrent for future actions by presidents, but let's, let's call that a pipe dream. Write presidents if they're going to engage in war. I mean, every president of my lifetime has what can we do right now in the most effective way possible to mitigate any potential damages, losses, or concerns you might have? This is what I would say to Dave. And again, we got to get, I got to get him on the show. We got to Dave's always welcome. And my, my response is agreed.

19:29I did not vote for this. However, my concern is just coming out and approaching it from it should never have happened. It doesn't change the fact that it is happening. And what are we to do about it? What can we do to be influential to the Trump administration to mitigate any losses or damage and, and, and, and slow this thing down? And, and eventually get this thing to come to a stop. I don't think attacking him and saying Israel and all this stuff is going to be effective. Trump will just shut you out. So if you want to be influential, you got to butter him up. You know what I'm saying? So let's take a look at what's going on right now. And we are in this moment. We did not want to be in. How can we be influential to get the best out of this as possible? That's how I view everything. I, I look at it very much like, how can we find the most value in our current situation? Because we're not going back in time. And is that to, like, let me ask you this. Why are you criticizing Trump? Please always ask yourself the questions about what it is you are doing.

20:29So I would say this, you know what? I, like, we got to have David. The question is, and it's not meant to be derisive, insulting, or rhetorical, literally, why are you criticizing Trump? Honest question. Okay. Is it because you want Trump to change his behavior? Is it because you want Trump to not win, like, you want Republicans to not win the midterms? There may be other reasons. Is it because you just generally don't like them and think he was bad and never supported them in the first place? Those things are all allowed. Now, if the responses you want Trump to change his behavior, the next question is, do you believe being mean condescending or otherwise to he and his supporters? Do you think that would be effective in changing his behavior? No, the answer would be no. So if that's the reason, stop, assess, and say, maybe there's a better way to do it. Is it because you want him to lose the midterms? Well, well, okay, then you're on track. Is it because you never liked him in the first place?

21:30Well, okay, you're on track, right? So I'm not saying you're wrong to make his criticisms. My point is, assess what you are doing. Think about what the end result is going to be. Independence are breaking from Trump. So my question then to Rogan today is, Trump is currently the president. Do you want Democrats to win? It's an honest question. It's not meant to be derisive or insulting. They, because they likely will, if this is the direction that we're going, or do you just not care? And you're just saying how you feel. That's fine too. I think it would be bad if Democrats win in the midterms. They are going, therefore the war, let's be real, right? They're not going to stop the war of all things, but they are going to stop domestic advances. So my view of it is largely this. We are not going to change the trajectory of the war. Or I should say, we're not going to change that it started. Democrats will get behind it all the same. They're even delaying the war powers vote. Come on guys. So if they get in knowing that bad that happens, is they start trans and the kids and they censor people.

22:30And then you get more war. So I don't know the most effective thing right now is to attack Trump, his base. I think the most effective thing is to beg Trump to resolve this and keep things calm. Because hopefully we find a quick resolution to this. And if you are someone who is deeply knowledgeable of the region and you have some ideas, then you need to be influential among his supporters and say, here's the off-ramp. Otherwise, I want to throw this out there real quick before we wrap up. It's a great thread from 10 Delta that I talked about yesterday. It's been going massively viral as it picks up steam. And it is brilliant. It lays out everything we've seen, not just in the Trump administration, from his first term through Biden and through now. The strategies that the US largely Trump has seemingly been taking, which is ultimately resulted in the US being on top, which now it's at 2.5 million views, basically saying this, we've isolated China and Russia. They've lost access to energy. The Hormuz straight closing actually benefits the US who now controls Venezuelan crude,

23:34heavy crude, meaning we are the global supplier. Love it or hate it. The end result of this is US hegemonic dominance. Again, you may say it's in more means you may say it's wrong. But if this path continues and Trump succeeds in Iran, the final piece of the puzzle, the US will own the plurality of energy production and no one, no nation, will be able to rally any kind of power to shut that down. That seems to be Trump's plan. Love it or hate it. You know, it is what it is. Finally, I'll just say this, guys. I'm just going to say this, I try to be nice to everybody. I try to be nice, but if you're a disloyal, mutineer, betrayer or otherwise, I have zero, I have negative respect for you. Kyle Kalinsky, knifeing Rogan in the back, insane. Dude called you his friend, brought you on a show. I don't talk to Joe about this stuff.

24:34I'm just looking back. You know, he brings them on. He says Kyle, he says my friend Kyle, I text with him. And now Kyle's just attacking him like crazy. You know, the first time I went on, I was supposed to go on Joe's show. He cancels on me after I land. And I was like, you know, a year later, he gets the invite man to show again. I fly to LA, he cancels on me again. Man, and you know what I said, you know what I said? I did this stream and I was like, well, guys, I can't get mad at somebody for not doing me a favor. To be fair, it is kind of brutal asking me to fly out. And then I do on my own dime. And then you cut me off twice. It's brutal. But the truth is, I'm not going to get mad at someone for not doing me a favor. It's just not going to happen. Everybody knows going on Joe's show is a huge benefit to everybody's career. I've benefited greatly from Joe, giving me the great opportunities that he has and helping me out every which way. I mean, dude's giving me advice on vitamins and stuff like this.

25:36I'm on the phone with him once and he's like, you're taking your vitamins to him? He has been nothing but a good dude who owes nothing to anybody. And he has gifted so many people so much. This is what I just can't stand. I don't hang out the guy. We don't go golfing or playing pool together. We don't go hunting together or whatever. I've been on a show a couple times. And I'm just sitting here being like, this guy has helped all of you people out so much. And you have the gall to be so dishonorable and said this loyal. It is what it is. Again, I'm not just going to say this of Joe. He's just the obvious big fish. There are other people as well, including Dave Smith. And Dave's been very nice to me. And he's been a good friend and we've laughed together and we've hung out. I am not ever going to just one day wake up and decide that someone was my friend with the wrong opinion is not my enemy. I'm going to call him up and be like, hey, bro, let's grab dinner and try and figure out where we're at. Well, I think there are grifters out there. You know, I think that there are people who are just like, here's an opportunity.

26:38Here's an opportunity that's going to get me clicks and views. And Kyle Kalinsky's exactly that. He's a guy who's like, the left hates Joe. Okay, I do too. I'm like, hope the views were worth it. I'd rather live in a van down by the river by myself, aging and withering away, forgotten into drifting and into obscurity where no one ever cared. I would do that before I would ever decide to betray those who have been good to me. For clicks and views, I would rather be on the street begging for a cheeseburger from the communist who took the country over before I would betray my friends or anybody who helped me out in my life. You betray me. We got a different story. Okay. But it is what it is. That's where we're at. Anyway, I'm going to leave it there. Smash the like button. Share the show. Thanks for hanging out guys. We got more coming up for you throughout the day. We'll see you on the next segment. This has to be one of the wildest stories we've gotten in a long time. Cash Patel, head of the FBI, his email was hacked by an Iranian linked hacking group,

27:39the DOJ confirms. And we are getting documents and photographs and my friends, what you are about to see will shock you. You're not going to believe this. These photos that are coming out. They are going to shock the conscience of America. I can't believe it. Ed Krasnstein, thank you for bringing these photos to light with this breaking new story that shows cash Patel standing next to a car in Cuba. Maybe I don't know with a cigar and seemingly smiling it. How about cash Patel happy in an office. I'm not, I'm not getting here's cash smoking a cigar. Guys, there's nothing here. They hacked this personal email and they started posting photos. Oh my god, it's cash playing hockey. This is too much. I'm sorry. This is cash. It is a proven trader.

28:44He's playing a Canadian sport that we've stolen from Canada by defeating them recently. Cash is a hockey player. I've known this for a long time. Here's him presumably in the DC area, I guess, playing hockey. I just don't even know what. Here's more photos of cash hanging out and enjoying a cigar. I am shocked that the Iranians have released these damning photos showing cash being all around normal guy doing things you'd expect a normal guy to do. If I was going to argue there's a real conspiracy here, it's that he wasn't actually hacked at all, but that the government released these photos intentionally to humanize cash Patel. I guess it's the news. Here's the story. FB editor Cash Mel's email has been hacked. We'll pull up this thread here. The DOJ confirmed they told Reuters his email was compromised but didn't go

29:45into further detail. The hackers named Handela Hack team have publicly claimed the breach of Patel's personal email inbox and published photos online of the director and his purported resume. On the website, they said he will find his name along a list of successfully hacked victims. According to Cible, an AI powered threat intelligence company, the Hack team emerged in late 2023 and has since evolved into a disruptive and highly visible cyber threat actor, primarily targeting Israeli interests. Reuters could not immediately authenticate the emails published by the hackers, but noted that a sample of them tearfully reviewed shows a mix of personal and work correspondence. One of the, there's like emails and it's just like booking confirmation. Guys, this is the most boring email hack ever. Come on. I know many of you probably thinking like I saw this thumbnail, I'm going to click it and it's going to be salacious like emails from cash being like we must cover up for Epstein. We're involved. We're complicit and it's just like he's playing hockey, you know. Here we go. What else do we have here? From Dark Web Informer, here's a

30:51Handela Hack. Hello, cash Patel. What do we got going on? Here's him outside of a plane, smiling. Here's what appears to be an accidental selfie. Here's cash taking a selfie of himself, looking kind of fit. What does he say today? Once again, the world witnessed the collapse of America's so-called security legends. While the FBI proudly seized our domains and immediately announced a $10 million reward for the heads of the Handela Hack members, we decided to respond to this ridiculous show in a way that will be remembered forever. Cash Patel, the current head of the FBI who once saw his name displayed with pride on the agency's headquarters, will now find his name among a list of successfully hacked victims. Okay, I will stress this. Obviously, cash doesn't want his personal photos being released, and it does kind of suck. But again, it's not like a nuclear bomb or anything. They say, this is the security that the US government boasts about. There's this cyber giant that thinks threats and bribes can silence the voice of resistance. To the whole world, we declare the FBI is just a name. Behind this name, there is no real security. If your director can be compromised this easily, what do you expect from

31:54your lower level employees? I'm going to give them that one entirely. They compromised cash, and they've got photos of him seemingly enjoying life. Fine, but they did compromise his email. That is fair point, not a good thing. And lower level guys. I'm going to be easier to hack than that. I'm going to tell you a story about how this stuff works. It's called fishing, spear fishing. These are the most common ways to gain access to a network. And my friends, oh boy, do I have stories for you? So, I don't know, I could probably tell the story. It's been a decade, right? Our device. And I get an email from Shane Smith, the CEO. And it says something like, have you seen this? And in the email, it was a link to what appeared to be CNN, but I'm not an idiot. And it was like, check this out. And then at the bottom of the email was a signature. It said, it said, Shane Smith, managing editor vice.com. And I was like, what? First of all, Shane doesn't use an email signature. And he wouldn't email me this. And he wouldn't call himself a managing editor. He's the CEO of a billion dollar company. I know what this is. So I went to the CTO, the chief

32:59technical officer and or chief technology officer and said, I got a fishing attempt. Find out a big deal. And he was like, okay, it was a really dumb fishing attempt. So he sends out a company wide email being like, guys, there's fishing attempts coming in. Do not click any links in your profiles. They're coming from the CEO, but they're fake. They're called spoofs. And he sends out that company wide. And I was saying, do not click links in your emails. And here's the masterstroke came in. We believe this might have been the serial serial electronic army at the time. So sure enough, oh boy, we think is all said and done. I get another email. And this time it was like a generic, generic website. It wasn't from Shane. And it was just like, please click this link to prove your kind of whatever or account. It's a generic fishing attempt. And I went to the CTO and I was like, look at this. I was like, there's still trying. He's like, I know, I know. And so he put on another alert.

34:01Guys, we're getting fishing attempts. Just a reminder not to click any links. These are coming in. We have a lot of reports like a dozen or so. The next day, hmm, masterstroke, masterstroke. I get an email from the CTO company wide email. And he says, I have repeatedly warned you all to not click links in your emails. We have been getting spear fishing attempts trying to gain access to the network. And with even with repeated warnings, several of you have clicked these links and compromised your accounts. If you did, you must reset your password right now by clicking this link. And I went, no, masterstroke masterfully done. You get it right. The CTO never sent that email. That was the real fishing attempt. And sure enough, hall, you got to love it. They hacked into the website. It's like midnight on a Saturday. And I see the website is hacked. And so I'm calling everybody. I'm like, guys,

35:02the website's been taken over. They were specifically targeting sea and electronic army-related articles or something like that. They had deleted from the servers, but they couldn't get rid of the cash, which is on Google. So it was still appearing. And so I talked to the CTO after the fact. And we were both like masterfully done. You send obvious bad spools, triggering a security move by the tech team. And then you spoof the tech team. We loved it. And he said something like 20 or so individuals actually ended up clicking the, the, the final one. In that amazing masterfully done. And then they got into the database. They deleted it, but they couldn't get too far. So I will stress the point is it's not that difficult to actually break in and compromise these servers and get access to his information. It actually isn't that difficult. How this happens? So when they say like, aha, we got you. Well, the truth is, I'll give them that. They did get cash as private information. It doesn't appear to be anything ultra compromising or anything like that.

36:03But lower level people loose lip syncs ships. They are going to be having conversations that may be compromising. And they're going to click links very easily. Man, I've got stories here. I'm not going to get into for security reasons, but we've had weird stuff happen too. So let me just stress the point. My friends, we are not invincible. We are not geniuses. Everybody can get hit and they're sophisticated attacks to do it. There's PDF script injection, meaning you might not even click a link. Someone will send you a PDF and it might even be like your travel confirmation. And you're like, what is this for? And you'll click it and open it in the email. And that can inject code into your system. It's crazy. One of the most common techniques is to put a virus on a USB stick and then drop the USB stick in front of the building. What happens is someone walking by will find the USB stick and get curious. I wonder what's on it? This technique has been around forever. Started with the floppy disks. Remember the old big floppies and the old little floppies? So what people would do is they put a virus on it and they drop the disk in front of a bank

37:06or something. An employee there would see it and get curious. And it would say something like it would say accounting, you know, 1998, important files do not lose exclamation point. So I want to be like, I wonder what it is. And they'll put in their computer and instantly the virus takes the machine and get grants access to the banking records or whatever might happen. Then we got CDs. Same technique is used. They'd burn a CD and then drop it and put something like hits tape or something or like hit music hits collection. Do not lose. And then a curious person puts it in to see what songs are on and virus. And today it's USBs. So there's nothing you can do to secure these systems because the element will always be human. That's the point to failure. I'm going to tell you right now there's nothing in this story at least as far as I can see. I may be embarrassing for cash, I guess, because its pictures have been smiling and taking selfies. But this could just be an opening salvo. Meaning that these people have actually hacked more

38:07and they want to build it up. They want to create a reaction like mine. And then tomorrow they release more damning information. We'll see. Smash the like button. Share the show. Stick around. We got more coming up and we'll see you on the next segment. UFOs, meteors, strange objects in the sky are being reported more and more and we have the data to back it up. But is this just a reaction to news to social media? Someone sees a video, they look in the sky, they film, they capture these videos and then you create a cascade of people just looking for things or could it be as predicted something is arriving. Donald Trump announces he will disclose information on aliens aliens dot gov has been registered. Oh, inshroyer saying he has witnessed objects in the sky. Don't take my word for it. I'm going to play the video from Oh, inshroyer. I don't believe he's lying. I believe he genuinely saw this. Now there are videos that claim to debunk these things and I'm going to play those for you too. But maybe what if

39:11someone actually witnesses a UFO, they see it, they then tell everybody. So somebody fakes a video debunking it. Indeed, we don't know for sure, but we do have reports of major sightings of meteors and other objects in the sky confirmed by local news. Could it just be that people are just noticing meteors for the first time and reporting it, thus making it seem like something else is going on or with news of a sophisticated drone attack on a US, a US Air Force base, true story, got the news for you. Could it be that this is military tech something being waged against us without our knowledge by rival nations as the Iran war heats up my friends. It could be anything. It could be nothing. But let's start here. See what Oh, inshroyer has to say. And oh boy, do I got a lot more for you? Let me play this clip first as Oh, inshroyer describes what he witnessed over Austin. All right, guys, I'm going to try my best to explain what I and others saw tonight. West of Austin. Pretty far west.

40:21And I found some images on X of some other people that saw it. I was driving, so I couldn't really get a good picture. So I'm driving west. It's, you know, it's sunset, twilight. I see a bunch of objects in the sky, probably like four or five objects. And they're striking. Like you can't miss them. And I'm thinking, well, this is just the twilight hour, the sunset reflecting off of airplanes or something, you know, what I'm talking about. And so I was like, Oh, okay, whatever, that's just what it is. And then one of them, I don't know if I would say it blew up, but it just started falling out of the sky and eventually caught fire. And this lasted for like minutes, probably. And then the other objects that were around it started moving and dispersing as well. Someone said they saw two fireballs. I only saw the one. And then I looked up at the news and they were talking about how there are meteors or whatever. Folks, this was no meteor. If they

41:24tried to say this was a meteor, that's BS. I've seen tons of meteors in my life. I've seen shooting stars. I've honestly, I've seen it all. I didn't even see satellites that had blown up and crashed down. So I've seen it all. This was not a meteor. This was a flying object that caught fire and fell out of the sky. And there were at least two or three other aircraft right there when it happened. I'm not the only one that saw this. It was crazy, honestly. It was crazy to witness this. It was wild to witness it. And the reason why I don't believe it was a meteor is because when meteors come into the atmosphere, it happens very fast. And then when they hit the atmosphere, they kind of disperse and break up. The whole process of a meteor is like a couple seconds, you know. So it's interesting testimony. We do have video reports to be of what occurred in Austin, but I don't believe this is exactly what Owen Shroyer saw. What he described was very specific. And it's got a much simpler explanation.

42:29A couple guys were flying heavy drones. And so when you often hear about these stories, and it's like there was an object in the sky and then a person flames and fell, I'm like, okay, I mean, I believe Owen because it's as simple as saying somebody was flying a drone and had a malfunction started on fire. It crashed. I mean, could happen, I guess. I don't know. I've worked with a lot of drones. I've never seen a drone on fire, but it's possible depending on if it was carrying something or you miss any happens. And then when that crashes, they bring other drones down. What I don't believe is that he was looking at contrails. Fireballs in the sky over Austin. Let me pull at this. You can see this one. And it says a strange object. Then I don't look like anything, right? There's another one. This is not at all what Owen Shroyer was describing. And this is what people are trying to claim is what he actually saw in the community notes. They say, these are just a contrails in the sunset. It's just airplanes. Nothing to see here. Again, agreed that this video is that. But Owen Shroyer said he saw an object moving around.

43:33Again, you don't have to believe it's aliens. It could just be someone piloting a drone, which my friends is entirely possible. Let me pop some other videos here. Which one do I have? Check this out. They say that there's nothing to see here, people. A meteor and Ohio turns into an orb. Well, there clearly is something to see and something happening on this planet right now. Are you ready? Let's play this video. Let's play this video. We don't need that music. Here you can see some strange object streaking through the sky with fire coming out of the back. What could that possibly be? Certainly, that's a vehicle of some sort. And is that propulsion? Who knows? Maybe it was aliens the whole time or in fact, it could just be a couple of dudes that go to the community notes here. Oh, wait, actually, I already had it pulled up. It was these dudes yikes putting fireworks on a model, a large model plane and then flying it through the sky. That's it. That's all it was. But I make you wonder, I guess if there was, now I genuinely believe that video is

44:37actually just this plane they were flying around talking me wrong. But how's it want to mention? That's highly illegal. I don't know where they where they did this. It's not in the United States. I don't know in the US. Super illegal to fly a vehicle that large with fireworks on it. But I do, I do have to wonder if this is an AI video. It look, I this doesn't look real to me. The vehicle in the front, it's hard to know what's real and what is fake. What I can tell you is that let me pull this up first from Stefan Burns. Here we have fireball sightings over the US summed by month by a NASA data from 2018 to March, 2026. Currently, we are 4.5 standard deviations above the average of around two fireball sightings per month. For this time frame, keep in mind, no big meteor streams are known for March, though some much lesser ones exist again, not normal. We are seeing in this month a massive number of fireballs. Now, you know what? Could just be normal.

45:39But here's what I think is more important. This from Adam Cochran. And actually, let's let's I think we have the. Here we go. ABC news. Check this out. Sophisticated drones attacked the US base where we store nuclear bombers. They had non-commercial signals. They were resistant to jamming, coming in waves of 12 to 15, swept over sensitive areas of the base, had long-range control links, were more advanced than anything seen in Ukraine or the Russian drones, beyond Iranian capabilities. Over the multiple days of incursion, local residents heard explosions, which Barksdale's claim was weapons testing. This is the second base incursion of a sensitive site in the US in the last two weeks. Ari Schoeman says this should be the biggest story in the country right now. Barksdale is the HQ for B-52 nuclear bombers. It's where Bush sheltered on 9-11 and the drones

46:39are reported as far more sophisticated than anything seen in Ukraine, well beyond Iranian capabilities. Indeed, my friends, ABC news reports, multiple waves of unauthorized drones recently spotted over strategic US Air Force base. So when Owen Shroyer says, I saw flying objects. And then all of a sudden, people post photos of con trails and the sky saying, he's mistaken. He was looking at planes. I say, no, no, no, no, no, no. You got a witness. You got news reports. This is a fact thing that's happening. Now, maybe, maybe Owen Shroyer's mistaken was looking at airplanes, but they burst into flames and fell out of the sky. That makes sense. And I don't think he misunderstood what he was looking at. Let me tell you a story, my friends. Let me tell you this story. From back in, I think it was 2006 at O'Hare Airport, the famous sighting. I have friends who witnessed this. I wasn't there. Let me tell you this.

47:39The Chicago O'Hare UFO sighting occurred on November 7, 2006, around 415 pm, when 12 United Airlines employees and a few witnesses outside of O'Hare reported a sudden UFO sighting. The Federal Aviation Administration refused to investigate the matter because this unidentified flying object was not seen on radar instead calling it a weather phenomenon. I'm going to tell you, I had a good friend of mine was driving down Mannheim Road. And he says, he was stopped at a light. When all of a sudden over the airport, a flying saucer was hovering. He said, people got out of their cars and were staring up at the sky. The light turned green cars wouldn't move. Now, this is 2006. People don't have cell phone cameras. They can take pictures, but not do great videos, right? He says, we're all staring at it. He was going to work because he worked at the airport. Now, I knew a bunch of people who worked at American Eagle, which is right next to the United Terminal. We would look across the tarmac and you'd see all the United

48:42vehicles and planes. We were the American Eagle, which is American Airlines regional flights. Many of you may have flown on them. Tons of people that I knew were saying, I had worked at these people for two years. I had recently left. I left in August of 06, I think. And they were like, bro, we all saw it happen. It came down from the clouds or it was floating in the sky. I think they said, and it was just hovering. You could see it hovering in the sky and then it shot straight up and punched a hole in the sky. No one made a mistake and thought they saw a contrail's a cloudy day. They punched a hole in the clouds when it shot straight up. They'd approximately 1615 CST, federal authorities received a report indicating a group of 12 airport employees were witnessing a metallic saucer-shaped craft hovering over gate C-17. This is literally next to where I used to work. The object was first spotted by a ramp employee who was pushing back United Airlines flight 446, which was departing Chicago for Charlotte North Carolina. The employee apprised flight 446 is crew of the object above the aircraft. The

49:47object was also witnessed by pilots airline management. Okay, they have a photo of this here. There's a photo of it. Let me pull it up. Chicago, over here, UFO 2006. There's an image, super grainy. Unfortunately, a bunch of people are posting fake images, which is really annoying. So when you look this up, you just get these fake photos because the truth is back in the day in 2006, we didn't really have great cameras. Look how grainy it is. This reportedly was taken by a pilot from inside the plane. It was just this metallic disk. It was flying low. They say witnesses described the object as 6 to 24 feet in diameter. Several independent witnesses outside the airport saw the object one described a disc-shaped craft hovering over the airport. Obviously, not clouds. They said, this is crazy. Look at this. According to witnesses, it shot through the clouds at high velocity, leaving a clear blue hole in the cloud layer. The whole reportedly seemed to close itself shortly afterwards. At least four of the eyewitnesses accounts of the sightings don't agree on the shape, height, movement time, or even number of objects.

50:49According to the Tribune, the disc was visible for approximately five minutes and was seen by close to a dozen United Airlines employees ranging from pilots supervisors who heard chatter on the radio and raced out to view it. Guys, I am telling you this. What do we have? Do we have another story on this one from the Daily Mail? One was this one. Look at this. Here we go. Here's an update on this story. I'm telling you, I worked for American Eagle Airlines. That is right next to United. American Airlines. It's called Eagle, but it's basically American Airlines. We had the same credit union and everything. Bro, I knew people who were like, I saw it because C-17 was right across the way. I heard all of this right when it happened from a friend of mine who's like, it shot through the clouds and punched a hole in the clouds. It's officially reported by witnesses who told the press we saw it all happen. Look at this. Silent disc shaped UFO seen by 12 United

51:51Airlines staff over Chicago Airport may hold key to interstellar space travel group of 30 physicists say. I wonder what is this? Is this Chicago? It looks like it might be. I'm not sure. That might be it. Isn't that crazy how it looks? There's the photo. This is the photo that we all saw. Super grainy. Ramp employees saw. Anyway, my point is this. We've got this news right now and people are saying maybe it's aliens or whatever, but I'm going to stress this. I'm going to stress military technology. People want to believe it's aliens and maybe, but the simpler answer is that the military has been developing weapons and technology beyond our public understanding for some time. Now imagine this. We have commercial grade drones. What if back in 2006, the military already had advanced remote commercial grade drones. Why would they not? They would have this kind of tech before the public would and maybe someone was doing an experiment. They were trialing it out near the airport for some stupid reason, which interferes with commercial travel and would certainly make

52:54everybody notice it. I don't know, man. I don't know what the point would be. The applied physics team undertook the O'Hare study. They said it's a thought experiment and chance to share their work. This is what they got the advanced propulsion laboratory. It seems reasonable to claim the talc object around 50 feet diameter was hovering 1500 feet above a passenger gate. It's so after some time, the object accelerated from about from zero to about 1000, 2000 feet per second. Nevertheless, because the evidence in in the O'Hare UFO case is solely anecdotal. Physicists are the first to admit their study cannot move beyond the category of merely informed speculation. The only way to fully investigate sightings like this was to gather more data. How did everyone, not everybody? How did so many people see this? Yes, but the radar did not. Stealth objects. Who knows? All I can say is this. They come out and they say that people like Owen Shore and the others who have witnessed these things in the sky must be wrong. These videos come out and for all we know, they could be AI and very easily made. They say, oh, you're looking at contrails. Oh, it was a weather phenomenon.

53:58No effing way. Simple solution. Unfortunately, my friends, the simple solution is that again, it's military technology that we are not supposed to see. I experienced a UFO personally when I was about, maybe I think I might have been like nine or 10 years old, a friend of mine and I were riding our bikes along Archer Avenue in Chicago. Actually, I can show you exactly where, can show you exactly where it took place. I was a little kid. I've told people this story quite a bit throughout my life. I don't really consider it to be meaningful in any real way. I've never really said like, oh, you know, I saw aliens. I didn't. I just saw an aircraft that I couldn't quite explain. So let me show you. Here's Midway Airport. And here's Archer Avenue right here. And so let me think about where this would have been. This was, so here's Midway. And it would have been somewhere over here, near like the like Menard. Let me find, so it's actually going to be like right here. See this alleyway right here? They don't give the street names

55:01when I zoom in on this. So all right, here's Archer Avenue. And then behind these stores, there's an alley in Chicago. That's where we put all of our garbage and the garbage trucks coming. Oh, actually, I think it was like, right, where is it? What street is this? There's Wentworth. There's Minuteman. Yeah, I think it might have been like right around here, actually. Let me think. Let me think. It would have been actually no, it would have been somewhere over here. So a friend of mine and I, we're little kids, we're riding our bikes through this alley. When I heard what I would only describe as a sonic boom and saw a purple vehicle flash straight past and it seemed like it was 200 to 300 feet above. Now, mind you, we live near Midway airport. And of course, as I'm describing it, there is a runway right here. I never really thought much about it. Maybe something was landing. My understanding is that it was going this way. So it flew this way, not this way towards the runway. It's possible. It was a private jet.

56:01Super fast takeoff from Midway airport. That's why I don't really think any of it. Makes the most sense, right? But I'd never experienced growing up in this area, planes were landing all the time and they were super loud. You'd hear them all the time when you live there. This was not that when the planes are coming in for a landing, you can hear them and it's a slow, gradual buildup. This was a boom. Who knows? Who knows? I never really thought of it as anything. All I know is, man, they got stuff we don't know about. I'll just say it like that. And right now, there's been many of these sightings and fireballs well above normal at a time where we're in heightened war. What if you're ready for this? This is the hammer drop, my friends. What if these are not meteors? What if these are rockets fired at the United States, but getting intercepted? Have you seen what it looks like when a rocket gets intercepted over Israel or our military base is in the Middle East? Don't look all that different.

57:02What if the war is worse than we realized and the things we are seeing are weapons being shot down. Trump doesn't want a panic and doesn't want to say that starting a war is resulted in retaliation, maybe, maybe not. I don't know. Or maybe it's aliens. I guess you have to figure that one out for yourself and decide what you want to believe. I think military tack and weapons are more likely. I guess we'll see. I'll wrap it up there, my friends. Smash the like button. Share the show with everyone. You know, stay tuned. Tim Kest, IRL is live now and check it out. Hey, y'all. It's Lauren the Rosa. Have you ever had one of those weeks where your curls are just parched? Like no matter what you do, they are begging for moisture, hint who heard you loud and clear with their new ultra moisture collection, powered by botanolio and Jamaican blackcaster oil. This new line is clinically proven to help retain moisture for up to five days, delivers up to five days of non-stop hydration, five whole days, y'all. The shampoo gently cleanses without stripping and the leaving

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