Jes Staley And The Transcripts From His Epstein Related Trip To Congress (Part 20) (9/9/26)

0:00What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode we're going to finish off with the Jess Staley transcript from his trip to Congress. Question I'd like to introduce as Minority Exhibit AI in an email exchange between you and Mr. Epstein dated December 27, 2010. The Bates number is EFTA00648887. I would also like to introduce as Minority Exhibit AJ an email exchange between you and Mr. Epstein dated January 22, 2011. The Bates number is EFTA01300907. In the first exchange you tell Mr. Epstein that you quote, scheduled the dinner on little St. Jeff's on January 21, in the second exchange you tell Mr. Epstein that his island is a paradise. Answer I've lost you. Question in the first exchange which is from December 22, 2010. Mr. Sullivan jumps in.

1:00What did he say? Question my apologies. I'm a spoke. December 27, 2010. Is the first exchange from December 27, 2010. You tell Mr. Epstein that you quote, scheduled the dinner on little St. Jeff's on January 21. It's the second line of your email. Answer I up. Wait, wait, wait. Bailey says he gets cut off. In the second exchange you tell Mr. Epstein that his island is a paradise. Did you go back to Mr. Epstein's island in January of 2011? Answer again I think I said that it was in transit on my boat. Question well in your first email you say quote scheduled the dinner on little St. Jeff's on January 21. So it looks like that at the very least you had a dinner on little St. Jeff's. Answer I don't know. This is an email from December so a full month before question right and then the second gets cut off by Staley answer so I don't know whether I had dinner and on this next email

2:02just talks about visiting his island not about having dinner on his island question. It's from the day after you had apparently scheduled the dinner answer I scheduled the dinner months before I was on my boat. I had no idea whether I had dinner on my boat or off my boat. Then I'll represent to you that Mr. Epstein's birthday is January 20. That's because one is from December and one is from January. Question I'll represent to you that Mr. Epstein's birthday was January 20. So it looks like you were sending him an email on December 27, 2010 saying that you scheduled the dinner on little St. Jeff's on January 21 which would be the day after his birthday but then about a month later on January 22nd of 2011 you refer to his island as being paradise answer yes question so taken together these look like you scheduled the dinner on the island for his birthday had that dinner and then sent an email the day after saying what a paradise question but there's nothing in the second email that talks about a dinner

3:05for his birthday the previous night and you would think if that happened that I would've mentioned that great to see you or something like that and there's nothing there. Question so you don't think you visited his island again in January of 2011 answer again my recollection is there were three times that I was on his island but I was staying on my boat so it's possible question in the second exchange you say I think Larry has said is it possible that you were referring to Larry Summers here who was also part of the birthday dinner answer which birthday dinner again are you talking about question who was also part of the dinner that you scheduled on little saying Jeff's on January 21st answer but Epstein's emailing me on the 22nd saying do you like the kitchen as if I wasn't with him on the 21st the way you're trying to tie together doesn't make sense in how I read it question so you don't believe that you visited Mr Epstein's island in January of 2011 answer again I believe that I was on my boat and I may have stopped on the island on the 11th but

4:06I don't remember it question you may have stopped on his island in January of 2011 and potentially at dinner answer I think if I had dinner on his island I would have mentioned this so I don't question I would like to introduce as minority exhibit a K a manifest for a flight from Jersey to St Thomas on April 11th 2015 the manifest list you your wife Jeffrey Epstein and two additional women redacted and another woman whose name we will not read because it's not public as passengers I'll give you a minute to look it over answer okay question it appears this manifest is referring to your visit to Mr Epstein's island in April of 2015 correct answer I'm not sure no I don't think I visited his island I think we were on the boat so we may have caught a ride with him to St Thomas but went on our boat question other than the people listed as passengers on the plane was there anyone else with you answer the crew question you previously said earlier today that you didn't believe that you'd ever met redacted answer that's correct question and it shows that you

5:11were on a plane with her correct answer correct question do you remember being on a plane with her answer no I don't question and so your recollection is that you're on a boat but you didn't actually visit his island is that correct answer that's correct question I would like to introduce as minority exhibit a L and an email from you to Mr Epstein dated April 12 2015 which is the following day the bait's number is the FTA 0174 6275 in the email you say quote thanks for the flight thanks for lunch your place is crazy and special it has a warmth and silliness that makes it yours I count you as a deep friend the girls seem to enjoy the sale so you flew on his private plane you had lunch but then you say your place is crazy and special it has a warmth and silliness that makes it yours that suggests that you did also visit the island agree answer I said thanks for lunch yes question sure but then you say quote your place is crazy and special it has a warmth and silliness that makes

6:15it yours answer that's the same to me as thanks for lunch question where would you have had lunch answer on his island it seems like question okay so to clarify you flew on his plane on April 11th 2015 and then you have lunch on the island the same day answer it seems like question when you say quote the girls seem to enjoy the sale who are the girls answer I don't know I don't recall question your daughters were not with you at this point correct answer I believe this flight was just my wife and myself correct question so were the girls either girls are young women that work for mr. Epstein answer I don't recall question you have no recollection of going sailing with the girls answer no question so to summarize you visited mr. Epstein's island in February of 2005 and in April of 2015 in 2005 it was with your family and in 2015 it was with your wife correct answer in 2005 we stayed on the island in 2015 I think we were staying on our boat question

7:20and in January of 2010 you may have seen them at the marina in the virgin islands in St. Thomas answer I think you may have come by and seen my boat question and your recollection is that you did not also visit in January of 2011 answer that's my recollection question you also flew on mr. Epstein's plane multiple times the times that we have discussed are three instances in February of 2005 and then once in April of 2015 correct answer I don't recall question do you remember any other time that you flew on mr. Epstein's plane answer I remember flying on a 727 and I remember flying on his Gulfstream but I don't know it either would have been between here in Florida or here in St. Thomas or New York sorry question mr. Staley I'm concerned that you have not been entirely honest with us today in large part because you have a history of saying what you think you need to get what you want I want to ask you about the history and see if you have an explanation for us

8:22back in the fall of 2019 the president and trustees of Bowdoin College or Alma Mater became concerned about your association with mr. Epstein correct answer correct question and you were a trustee at Bowdoin College correct answer correct question and you wanted to remain a trustee of Bowdoin College correct answer correct question and response you give a presentation to the Bowdoin College trustees about your relationship with mr. Epstein correct answer correct question and as part of your presentation you made a number of statements to the Bowdoin College trustees correct answer question and this was before the Department of Justice released some of the files on mr. Epstein correct answer correct question one of those statements was I had limited contact with them post his conviction we know that between 2008 and 2012 you exchanged over 1200 emails with mr. Epstein that's nearly 300 emails a year or almost an email a day how was that limited contact answer again I have used the

9:27word contact as being with them having contact with somebody not necessarily an email question do you think that's how the world or the word was understood when you said it to the Bowdoin College trustees that contact meant physical contact I can't speak for the Bowdoin trustees but I think that's what I was referring to question another statement was quote gets cut off by stalee I'm sorry I don't know when you say that number of emails is it like separate emails or is it like a chain you say high I say high you say what you're doing I say nothing what are you doing question it's a finding from the financial conduct authority answer but we don't know whether it's okay question individual emails or email chains no I think it's still a pretty high number another statement was quote at no time after his conviction in 2008 that I allowed je any connection with any respect of my personal life indeed I have never had any professional relationship with je except for his relationship with

10:30jp morgan private bank which began long before I ever met him there is an overwhelming evidence at this is false you asked mr. Epstein for advice on your salary you shared confidential information about how your business was doing and what deals you were working on you told mr. Epstein about meetings that you had with government officials and meetings that others had with government officials and you get mr. Epstein multiple updates on the hiring process at barclays why would you lie about this to the Bowdoin College trustees answer can you repeat what I said to the Bowdoin College trustees question at no time after his conviction in 2008 did I allow je any connection with any aspects of my professional life indeed I have never had any professional relationship with je except for his relationship with jp morgan private bank which began long before I ever met him answer and I think that was referring to him being like a client him advising on a transaction like hybrid I don't believe that I think it was actually doing business with them as opposed to using him to

11:34give me counsel with with respect to my career I think those are separate things question I don't follow that distinction you say you didn't allow him any connection with any aspect of your professional life after his conviction when he is in jail you email him asking what your salary should be that very much seems like after his conviction you're allowing him to a connection to an aspect of your professional life answer I think I was talking about connections of actually business being conducted in my professional life not about me question I'm not sure what you mean by that connections about business answers so the selling of American century were thinking of buying about buying dimensional or having them involved in the acquisition of hybrid as separate from I'm thinking of going to barclays what do you think one is sort of advice about my professional life the other is about transactions and business question I'm still not following you because you did both you asked him for for advice on your professional life and you shared gets cut off by

12:35stalee right right I think after his conviction I wouldn't know if I was doing a transaction I wouldn't bring him in to get involved in the transaction that's very different than my professional personal life question right but after his conviction you did both you shared information about deals that you were working on stalee very little question and we've talked about that though you shared information with them about deals that you were working on you told them about meetings you were having with government officials answer and that's different question sure and then in other categories you asked him for advice about what you should say to Jamie diamond in a salary negotiation answer right again but that's different from bringing him to actual business transactions like American century or dimensional or hybrid question so you think that the natural reading of this statement that you made to the Bowdoin college trustees is that you were saying that you didn't do some kind of formal business with them answer yeah question when you say at no time after his conviction in 2008 did I allow J.E. any connection with any aspect of my professional life

13:41answer that would have been public and involved in a transaction that's correct whereas before he was paid 15 million to advise on a transaction with high bridge that's the sort of thing that I was referring to question I don't see the distinction Mr. stalee and instead it looks like you're giving information to the Bowdoin trustees excuse me the Bowdoin college trustees that is not entirely accurate because at the time all of the emails and documents that we have we're not public and if you were comfortable lying then how do we know you're not lying to us now answer I'm not lying to you question that's all we have that concludes the hour where upon at 546 pm the interview was concluded all the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box