Jayne Salazar-Chavez

0:00Hello everyone and welcome deps of 531 of the true crime all the time podcast I'm Mike Ferguson and with me as always is my partner in true crime my Gibson. Give me how are you? I'm doing good Okay, did you need to say it like chef boy R.D. Or that's just how it came out My good we had a pizza tonight. Yeah, so it's maybe this is some of the Italian honor We did and the you say Italian honor. That's how we say okay Yeah from the small region I'm from which is what? BFE Ohio because that's where you're from. Let's be on yeah, that's true. All right, so You ready to get into this episode of true crime all the time we're talking about Jamie Salazar Shabas when 17 year old Jamie Salazar Shabas's boyfriend Drowsed her home for a surprise visit after being granted leave from his army base. She was shocked to see him

1:03Jamie's boyfriend became suspicious and he checked her phone and discovered that she had been texting another man After getting into a verbal altercation with the man over the phone Jamie and her boyfriend were hit by a hail of gunfire outside of her house the bullet Bullets, let's go with bullets. Yeah injured her boyfriend and killed Jamie within man so He comes home thinking oh man. I am so excited. I'm gonna drive there and see her and he gets there and he's like Something's up. Yeah, and also it also sounds like it might have been a surprise visit. Yeah, like he may not have warned her At a time it kind of takes a fun away though, right? Yeah, I'm like hey, what takes the surprise away for sure When you're always telling me you miss me miss me and I'm gonna show up and like I'm here But then you're like first of all I have never said I miss you No, but some you assume the people miss each other. Oh, okay, you said you and then you're looking at me

2:06You mean you is in the general yeah, okay, yeah, let's just get lay all of our cards on the table You don't miss anybody besides your kids in your wife. Yeah, it's very rare. Yeah, that I mean I enjoy our weekly recording session But you you should be out pretty quickly in the six days in between yeah, it's not like I'm sitting around thinking You know what one of that gibby's I'm really miss giving Yeah, let me let me call them up and just see what he's doing you call me up. I'm thinking something's wrong There's a problem right because I don't talk to a lot of people. I don't make a lot of fun call no or text beyond Text here's the funny thing And I said this before I could text you a paragraph. I'm gonna get one word back Okay, yes, no, it's usually no if you're asking me for something So jane salsar chavez was born on july 25th 2005 she lived with her family in Decatur Georgia

3:11jane was a junior at towers high school she was a group commander of her schools Air Force J.R. OTC program She was also involved in soccer and student government. So I'm pretty active. Yeah, I think she was active Did your school have an ROTC Program they did yeah, I minded to I was an into it, but when I was in college I did take some military courses. I don't know why they offered them It was like shooting In 16s. It was repelling down some of the campus buildings. Yeah, it was fun It just seemed like nothing I would ever use in my business life Which is what I was going to school for yeah, it doesn't make any sense at all Although I guess you're if you're in a high rise and you're into some business and things go sour you might need to repel down Maybe if there's a lesson there on sometimes in business world you got to take a step back repel down

4:13To your foundation before you climb back up again That's not the dumbest thing you've ever said. No, it's although that that it's not a clear very high bar, but It's it's not I kind of get the uh where you're going there Friends describe jane is sweet and down to earth A post made by her principal on the school's social media accounts at Jani you were such an inspiration and a great student leader. We will miss you my dear Jani's friend Taylor for a said she was outgoing Positive and bright her friend jaden chick agreed that jani never met a stranger And could bring people out of their show. You always hear such good things about these People that end up being killed, you know, just breaks my heart, you know, I feel bad for For their families for their friends, you know, because they just sound wonderful like yeah This these are people you want in our world. Yeah, and I have a couple of different views on that

5:18Number one some of these people just are that amazing, but then number two You know who really wants to Say something even in the the least bit negative About someone who's just died. Well, that's true. I mean you'd have to be a uh Different type of person. Yeah to be able to be like well be honest. We've heard it. Yeah We have heard people say I'm glad the person was dead. I hated them. We've but it's not the norm Right, especially if you're dealing with friends and family of course they're gonna have a lot of good things to Say about the person But you know, let's be honest. There are some people who are just that positive. Of course. Yeah in life that You know they Positively affect every one around and they're fun to be around Yeah, they are Janie's goal was to become a pilot for the Air Force she had already enlisted in the Air Force and

6:21Hope to pursue an education after completing her service Janie's mother and paro salsa total 11 alive that Janie was looking forward to graduate. Well, I mean ROTC the Air Force day they used to I don't know if they still do but they used to give You know a healthy amount of money towards your college education. Oh, I think they still do yeah And it's a great way to You know number one serve your country, but then when you come out kind of have your uh next Steps in line and a lot of your school paid for and and all that helpful Surely before her death Janie was crowned homecoming queen This was said to have been an exciting moment for her But no surprise for her friends who were confident that kind outgoing Janie would win weren't you the homecoming king? I was not I was on the court

7:22That's what it was you're on the court, but I was not selected yeah Fine with that but here we just got done talking about okay Is she really that wonderful or are people just kind of hyping her up after the fact Well before her death she was crowned homecoming queen yes as again, that says a lot It does now I would say at least from my experience that is mostly a popularity award It always doesn't have you know something to do with how nice you are But it can play a factor. I can for sure At the time of her death Janie was in a relationship with Brandon Lee Wilson who was in the army 16-year-old Janie met 22-year-old Brandon and October 2001 while he was on leave Janie was a waitress that the restaurant he was visiting and they hit it off Well people you know can find that right you know you're working and somebody comes in you're like

8:24Hey, how you doing right? How you doing next thing you know you're like so go out both the man and the woman or talking like Joey from friends Sometimes it happens. Yeah, it's the Joey Theory or whatever not the theory, but you know I'm talking about you know just twirling your fingers like that doesn't Help you come up with something I know I can look up. I got you do that a lot too. Yeah, but you're right. I mean you know if you pulled All these people who are in relationships and ask them how do you meet? There's gonna be a lot of meat cubes, but a lot of people are gonna meet and just kind of benign ways my wife and I met at work Which a lot of people do you remember what I only met him? I I don't for sure But you know also you know this is kind of a The diner waitress situation you go in to get some food you see who you

9:26Somebody that is your server. You're very attracted to them. I could see the sparks flying It wasn't long after this that they began a romantic relationship Most of their relationship was long distance because Wilson was stationed in South Korea or North Carolina. Well that would be long distance. Especially South Korea. Yeah Yeah, it's gonna be maybe some Zoom calls or whatever People have the opportunity to do You're not gonna be seeing each other in person. No very much Wilson later testified that going into November 2022 Their relationship was as he put it pretty rough He and janey argued often and he suspected something wasn't right and that janey might have been Cheating on him. That's probably what she's going into her senior year I think if I'm thinking right maybe you know, so

10:30That's I always told my kids your senior years. That's your time to Let loose have fun before you go into college, you know, so yeah, I did not use that advice. I was pretty much I was just a relationship guy. Yeah, I always happen. Yeah, it's probably one of the reasons I've been married for you know over 30 years I I like continuity you do I'd like being in a relationship I was never that guy to just you know randomly date people or hook up or any of that stuff I would not have been like a tender user or Any of that no Because I just like Relationships. Oh, if you were a tender user you probably swipe in the first person that you found We're getting married. You're getting married No, I I don't know that I could

11:32thrive in today's environment Oh, you know too stressful you kidding me you would not know not to mention the fact that now I'm so heavily into true crime. Yeah, and all of the research and the investigation that we've done I don't think I would be able to trust anybody Fair fair to say yeah, I don't know it would be tough. I'm sure I'd figure it out, but It's not something I would look forward to yeah, absolutely not On November 10, 2022 Brandon was given time off and decided to surprise janey with the visit while he was on his way home To Georgia Brandon was stationed at Fort Bragg I'm sure a lot of people have heard about Fort Bragg You know very famous. Yeah, based Brandon drove straight from Fort Bragg to Decatur that afternoon he arrived between 10 30 and 11 p.m

12:39But he didn't tell janey he was coming So She was very surprised when he showed up She didn't seem all that happy to see him. She was surprised not a happy like oh my gosh You're here. I missed you come here more like Almost maybe more shocked than surprised, but surprises can be good and bad so I understand the the use of that word janey walked out of her house and got into the back seat of Brandon's vehicle which surprised him According to court documents when Brandon and janey were in the car together He noticed she seemed withdrawn He asked if she was seeing someone else and demanded to see her phone well, I think when you get there And the person you want to surprise comes out and doesn't sit in the front with you, but sits in the back You got to realize there's probably a problem. Yeah. Well, first of all, this is not an uber right we're in a relationship

13:41Who doesn't sit in the front seat? Yeah, unless you know That person gets in the back and they're like Kate come on back here with me. Then that's a different kind of surprise Yeah, I don't know what kind of life you're living, but that doesn't happen to me very often I have a feeling your life is way more exciting than mine maybe So when he looked at janey's phone He saw a suggestive text message from a contact Labeled zz3 The message was sent at 1024 p.m. And said I'm horny right now According to Brandon and his later police Innery So there's a couple of things here first zz3 That's not a person's name, no and You know there have been I think many of people over the years and cell phones have become ubiquitous Who you know if you're having an affair You're not going to put that person's name in there is a contact

14:44Yeah, but to put zz3's not helping the situation either right it just stands out Yeah, I mean why not put like whatever the local pharmacy is or Why not just like Ted or a male or you know Barbara, I'm not taking you know, I'm telling people how to get around stuff, but It just seems so strange and then on top of that when the text coming from this contact says I'm horny right now. It does not leave a lot to the imagination No, it does not this is not You know light banter light flirting This is hey, I'm coming right out and putting it all on the table Yeah, I guess you can say it's got to be one of those scam scam text messages Yeah, because that's a good way to get money out of people I mean This is not the Nigerian prince email. This is not the You know, I need five best by gift cards. They don't normally start out that way as far as I know

15:51You know Janie refused to tell Brandon who zz3 was so he called the number The man on the line said hello and then hung up when Brandon didn't respond After Janie refused to tell Brandon anything about the man he called back He and the man reportedly exchanged words According to court documents Brandon was mad Cussing and threatening the man they were going back and forth the man was also shouting cursing and laughing They argued about who was actually Janie's boyfriend Brandon hung up and sent the man text from Janie's phone Morning him to leave her alone The man responded by telling him to do something about Those are fighting words right there. They are as we used to say back in the day I don't know if people still say that or not. They probably do do something about it if you don't like it

16:52Yeah, now they didn't come through texts when you and I were young because there were no text These were things said right to your face and you either had to react or Cower and slink home and what wasn't no there was no trailing period No No, that's the thing right with text. It's like People can say whatever they want behind it It's not even anonymity really at this point, but um They can say whatever they want behind their screen. Sure because they're not right in front of the person Back when you and I were growing up When somebody said that you had a real decision to make it was either You're gonna fight or you're gonna run away and in shame That's right and that's kind of all there was to it. I'll mess you up. You know, you say that in the text I mess you up you better Now to be fair you did have some of those people who You know ran their mouth But then when it came time to it they were asking their buddies to hold them back

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19:58Yeah, and pull up meaning Bring it, I guess, you know, whatever No one was there so they left again But the man wouldn't stop calling janey's phone He demanded she give his things back including a ring and Told janey he was outside her home So I mean the one thing you'd have to say Gibbs is this is gone from You know zero to 60 pretty quickly it has ramped up there. Yeah to the point where You know it's found out that there's another guy Brandon is talking to this guy and things are getting heated Obviously this relationship was a little bit more than just a casual flame Yeah, I'm just trying to think You know

20:59I'm just one. I'm surprised she's in the car with them I can't imagine that the conversation the conversations are going very well. Maybe that's why she got in the back seat Yeah, and then If I'm if I'm him I'm got a concerns about moving forward with relationship anyway Well, and then you know the other thing is so he's demanding things back a ring That tells me this relationship had progressed absolutely and I shared with you recently, right most of the times that I got broken up with was right after Some gesture. Yeah, whether it was a ring on valentine's day and we're not talking big bucks. I didn't have big bucks, but It was just a gesture that maybe Was perceived as over the top. Yeah By my then girlfriend And the next thing you know, I got dumped Just happened. There's a lot of people right now going on or Fergie. Yeah, well, it did happen

22:02I'm being quite honest with you still shakes you up even today. I can see it in your eyes If I cry Take over and talk while I Compose myself But you know, here's the thing You know, this is a kind of an escalating situation When you start Kind of throwing out those terms like What are you gonna do? Yeah pull up Let's get it on yeah, and not in a good way Right because that saying can go a couple of different ways That I mean those are fighting work. Yeah, and he's a young guy You know the testosterone is is flowing military, you know, that's a good point. I mean this guy You know, I'm sure he's in good shape. He went through boot camp. He trains Probably not the type of person to want to back down. No, you know from a fight. There's a sense of honor there

23:05Yeah, I think there is In a subsequent call the man Told Brandon to pull up again, but also added handle His problems like a man. Okay, so now you're questioning a guy's manhoods. Yeah And that just adds it another level to it Janie and Brandon arrived at her house at 11.04 p.m. When Brandon parked he saw a shadowy figure near Janie's mailbox and a red laser pointed at his car And I think very quickly his military training kicked in and he realized someone was pointing a gun at them. Yeah Now I don't know You've seen it in movies right the laser sure and You know, you can have them on pistols. You can have them on rifles. I've never had one I think they're very popular

24:07in Operator situations where you can get a laser that operates with your night vision. Oh, okay So instead of looking down the barrel barrel you've got night vision and that laser works with it somehow I know I've never had any of this stuff. So I don't know the particulars I don't think that's this one. I think this is just a greener red laser and Yeah, they're not that expensive but theoretically if you have You know kind of cited it in yeah like you do red dots or anything else then wherever you point that laser That's where the bullet should go. Yeah. I'm just thinking you know this guy tells them on the phone Come here and settle this like a man How's this selling like a man? This is not when someone says settle it like a man

25:08I'm not thinking that We're gonna pull out guns and shoot each other thinking Old school settled like a man like physical. Yeah, let your fist up and let's go. Yeah, I'm with you So this man started shouting and then according to Brandon bullets started flying and You know, I'll be honest. I've never been in in this type of situation. I've never been shot at right I can only imagine That it would be absolutely terrifying And maybe a little disorienting like what do you do somebody shooting at you? I'm assuming you got a figure way to You know get away from the flying bullets Yeah, so he put the car in reverse and started driving away amid this hail of gunfire while racing through the neighborhood Brandon heard Jamie scream He recalled she was choking on her blood Then I called 911

26:09He held Jamie's throat to try to help her and quickly pulled over at a gas station to render it But Brandon testified she was gone So I mean in this scenario she's still in the car right yeah, so if he is You know putting it reverse driving away racing through the neighborhood But But this other individual is firing on the car How hard would it be for her to be struck by a bullet? Not hard and it sounds like that's exactly what happened at least according to to Brandon Officer Irving Hunn responded to Brandon's 911 call and began performing CPR on Jamie paramedics arrived minutes later First responders detected a faint pulse and continued CPR But tragically Jamie died five minutes later

27:11From a gunshot wound to the chest She had also been shot in the back and abdomen It multiple times yeah And I don't know if that is Because at first he's reversing and then he turns around To get away But the bullets are still coming maybe that's why Brandon had been shot in the knee and was badly injured So I think if you're Law enforcement and you're reviewing the statements you're reviewing the injuries I mean, what are you gonna make of it? What's your what's your first impression gonna be Oh I mean you're thinking From top of dry by shooting Well no because He's telling detectives hey this guy if he's told the detectives yeah, which I I'm assuming he would have yeah

28:13Yeah, yeah, at that point and obviously you're thinking This guy is other boy friend or whatever he is is unhinged and Killed Jamie and shot Brandon. I don't know how you could come up with Anything other than that you blame right right based on his accounts and the wound yeah They would seem like okay initially they might back that up Officer hunn questioned Brandon while he was in the back of the ambulance He explained that the shooting happened at Jamie's house Not the gas station and he saw the shooter and a red beam of light before the shots were fired Brandon's car had 20 bullet holes in the driver's side door and windshield Which did seem to support his story a lot of bullet ones that holes that is that's a lot of bullet holes I mean, what's the only other

29:14scenario That you could even think of If he's lying about all of this then he would Have had to have shot up his own car. Yeah, he had to step out shoot up his own car and his girlfriend And then at some point shoot himself in the knee yeah No other way around it. That's the only other way to do right if he's the perpetrator Brandon was taken to the hospital for treatment Meanwhile officers rushed to jane's home in hopes of catching the suspect in the area They secured the scene and searched the neighborhood, but they didn't find the shooter or the guy The murder weapon was never found Officers knocked on the door and had to break the news to jane's level They were devastated because as we said right they were um a loving close knit family yeah And I always think of that You know these these officers detectives whoever it is

30:17And that's got to be a terrible part of the job To notify people that their loved one is dead. Yeah, that's The part I wouldn't want to do no and and I'm sure None of them do as well, but somebody's got to do absolutely as hard as it is jane's mother reported that she did hear gunshots But she didn't realize the severity of what she heard and she never called 911 jane's brother explained that earlier she got a phone call and walked out of the house They didn't know who contacted her or where she was going According to officer hun jane's family trusted her and knew she was a good kid She didn't hang out with the wrong crowd so They didn't have a lot of questions for her when she went out jane's family had no idea who could have harmed her

31:18In hell frustrating with that beat right because you're thinking one who would ever hurt her But now you know they're trying to figure out. Okay, I don't know who would but somebody did so who was that person What are you going to come up with? Nothing if You know she has no known enemies There's nobody in her life that at least in your opinion would want to do her harm right who are you going to offer up? Now we know who the authorities are going to look at right they're going to look at these two men absolutely who By all appearances seem to be involved in some kind of love triangle with janey kind of at the center. Yeah, but I do want to go back for a minute and just talk about You know hearing gunshots jane's mother even admitted she heard gunshots, but didn't call 911

32:19And it's something that we kind of talk about quite a bit. Yeah, I don't know if I would I heard One I need to qualify them This would not be in my way of thinking gunshots like Across the street in a a feel yeah This is outside your home. I have to imagine it's fairly loud I think if I heard that outside my home I would I know I would I would get up and look yeah, you know or look at my camera I wouldn't look too close because bullets are flying but If anyone has shot guns or they've been to the range. Yeah You know how loud it is Even wearing like ear protection. It's still pretty loud. Yeah, yeah, and without it It's very loud Strange when someone doesn't go Investigate or at least call 911 and say hey, I'm hearing gunshots outside my home now

33:23I'm not bad mouth and I'm not at all. I'm just saying it does seem a little strange to me Um But we've talked about it right could people think it's a backfire from a car. Yeah, I feel like There was 20 bullet holes though. Yeah, but you're probably not thinking Gunfire right probably thinking sounds like gunfire That you see on TV, but I don't think nobody would ever shoot anything around here. Yeah, maybe it's firecrackers There are some reasons why Maybe you can make it out to be something else You know those pieces in your closet that you find yourself wearing on repeat the sweater that goes with everything The perfect pair of pants or the T you somehow always reach for first Those are the pieces that make getting dressed easy and that's what quince does best Quince focuses on high-quality wardrobe staples made with premium materials like 100% Mongolian cashmere Organic cotton and marina wool. They're 100% Mongolian cashmere sweater started just $60. I have a couple of and I will break them out

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35:35As far as they knew However, please took note of the fact that when they questioned Brandon at a gas station He described janey as a friend which is bizarre it is Why would you say one not to say my girlfriend Why say a friend yeah, I think it's very strange because We all know everybody watching listening knows the difference between a boyfriend slash girlfriend and a friend yeah, it's a big difference it is a big difference and This is not a new relationship. They'd been in it for some time So to say friend I can understand why the authorities kind of Looked at that as as being very suspicious. Yeah After Brandon received treatment at the hospital he had a formal interview with the police At first he said he would be more comfortable making his statement with his dad and lawyer present

36:42Brandon explained that he wanted a lawyer because his dad always told him to always have a lawyer present when speaking to the police I mean, he's not wrong. No, he's not wrong It's something that I know you've harped on a lot. I have a I've agreed with it. Yeah You know if my daughters were being questioned and something like this I would want them to have an attorney present Oh Guilty or innocent doesn't matter. I mean, it's just protect yourself. That's all because the attorney's gonna say You know, hey don't answer that. Yeah, whereas if you go in by yourself I think a lot of people they would be so nervous. They don't know what they can answer what they don't have to answer You want that person who studied all of that And can give you the guidance because once it's out there, yeah, you know, you can't take it back and it will be used against you

37:44You know how how we feel about when you go in you say one story and then you come back and tell a different story How it's looked at yeah, you know, so you want to make sure you tell the story or don't say anything or don't say anything And sometimes that is the best course of action Detectives talk to him more and he agreed to give a statement Brandon was quickly ruled out as a suspect So detectives turn turn to Janie's phone for answers and I thought this was fascinating, right He said he wanted his dad and a lawyer present well They don't have to allow his dad there, right? Right As far as I know how old was he was he only 17. No, he was 20 Okay, she was younger. Yeah, yeah, this point he would have so he's in a dark. Yeah, his dad doesn't need to be there but he does have the right to have a lawyer there and It seemed like he was on the right track right with that yeah, but then he said you know what

38:50True, I'm gonna give you a statement right and They pretty quickly ruled him out as a suspect So you know again, they turned to Janie's phone The problem was her phone was locked and no one knew the password While waiting on search warrants for her call records Investigator searched Janie's bed room. They found her journal Which contained a number that turned out to be the past code to her phone. Oh luckier is is that yeah I mean it was a major break in the case Because you would think These high-tech law enforcement agencies could crack those iPhones and things right but I've heard it's not as easy as People think it would be no, it's not like you using one two three four five six You know, which is my default go to yeah, but what who's gonna guess that yeah, that'd be too simple Right, that's the way I always like a selfie Janie took a few days before the shooting

39:54Was also a key piece of evidence there was an unidentified man in the photo as well as a firearm Stocked between the driver's seat and the center console. Okay I think that's gonna peak investigators. I think so I don't know if you from that picture you can tell what type of gun it is If it's the same caliber that killed her. I don't know. Yeah, I guess it depends on how much you can see the gun and all that But regardless, they're gonna want to talk to this guy absolutely the problem was no one in Janie's family Recognize the man But police soon received an anonymous tip that the man was 23-year-old Nikiya Dorsey Detectives compared his license photo with the man in the selfie and it was a match, okay So they went to his address to question him, but he wasn't home Detectives talked to his sister instead she was asked if he had talked to her about any problems lately

40:58She said he had been in trouble Or he had been arrested before they didn't really talk about any of the girls he was seen But he did have multiple firearms at the house But none of them matched the murder weapon Hmm authorities also recovered three phones one of which was used to call Janie on the night she was killed okay So You know, I think very early on okay. Yeah Brandon's got to be looked at They rule him out now they've got this guy And things are looking promising. Yeah, I mean they got the phone where he called her Obviously he knows how to shoot he has plenty of guns Does have a lot of gun. Yeah, but they don't find the actual murder weapon. No Location data also placed Dorsey at the crime scene So I think you can look at all the other stuff and say okay, it doesn't look great

42:02But when they can actually place you at the crime scene at the time of the crime That is not looking good for you. That's a problem. It's it. Yes. It's a huge problem The key adorsey was arrested on February 2nd, 2023 And charged with malice murder and two counts of aggravated assault investigators believed his motive was Jealousy the only thing that can be right so he's in a relationship With this woman with janey Brandon is in a relationship. Yeah with janey Brandon comes home and Nakeda is jealous because he doesn't want to lose her that's Yeah, I'm assuming what the authorities were thinking I follow that completely. Well, and you know go back through time Right how often is jealousy at the root of you know some of these murders. Oh, man. They're huge. I mean it's it's you know

43:12Jealousy You know from the love trying goal or not even a love trying to just roll jealousy, you know, I mean And what's the other stuff? You know, it's what money related. Yeah, obviously you have money greed finances stuff like that But you know the love jealousy Angle is his big as well. Yeah, and You know, it's a very old motive. It is you know, it's been around for a very long time janey's mother told 11 alive in February 2023 that when she learned of dorsi's arrest She was in pain and tears she wished she could have saved her daughter from violence Her only piece was knowing janey's heart was full of love for others and hope for the future Nekia dorsi's trial started on July 24th, 2023 The de cabb county DA's office argued that dorsi killed janey because

44:13She was cheating on him. Yeah, I mean what they're coming out And saying is right, you know, they're saying that uh He killed her Because he thought she was cheating on him. Well, you're saying it's right Well, if you're on the jury, you're gonna say the minute they say that statement. Oh, yeah, they must be right I'm thinking they got to prove it. They got to prove it. Okay. Yeah, so is it right or no, I think they think they can prove it based on text messages and other things I'm just giving you a hard time because when you say it's right, you're like you're just automatically giving it to them Yeah, I think They're on the right track as well. I just wouldn't say that 100% they're right, but I do think ultimately it's gonna end up that way It wasn't disputed at trial that zz3 Was Nekia dorsi or that he was the man communicating with janey on the night of November 10th

45:142022 Cell record showed 11 calls between dorsi's phone and janey's phone on the night of the shooting And I think you know if you're a defense attorney There's gonna be stuff that you you just have to concede to right you can't get out of it You can't get around it So you're better off just conceding But then making an argument as to what that mean yeah or or something along those lines An FBI agent testified about Nekia janey and Brandon cell phone locations that night When the first call was made at 1028 p.m Dorsi was at his home and janey was at her home At 1047 p.m Dorsi's phone pinged off the tower close to janey's home at 1117 p.m The phone pinged at his residence again now. He just lived four miles from janey So he could have easily driven back home after the shooting

46:18But that's you know, that's good Information for the prosecution sure it is right at this time the first call he's at home Roughly 20 minutes later. He's pinging off a tower Close to her home and then by 1017 p.m. He's pinging back home So that called me tween. I'm guessing is when he called and said hey, I'm out front. Why don't you show up here and Do this like a man. Well, and then the shooting happens and then they probably putting back home after that A forensic analysis of the phone found 27 pictures of janey and a screenshot of a news article about the case The phone's data also showed that the user took 288 steps between 1101 p.m. And 1109 p.m. Which would have been right about the time of the shooting

47:18So as the time he got out started shooting did his Sweep of the car and then came back got back in his car Maybe had some steps walking back into his home On November 12 janey's contact photo was changed to a ghost with the tongue sticking out and It's so strange. It is right If you're involved in this murder You were having a relationship with this one. Yeah, even though she was having a relationship with somebody else at the time as well You had her picture in as her contact And then after the shooting you change it to a ghost with the tongue sticking out Why? Now does it mean anything definitively? No, but Is it something that the jury might take into account? Yeah, possibly

48:19What sure seems like you're not sad No, that's a good point is it a little flippant is it You know disrespectful I think at the very least it would be looked at as that On November 7th no august 7th. I'm sorry 2023 Nikiya Dorsey was found guilty of felony murder possession of a firearm during the commission of a felony and two counts of aggravated assault He was found not guilty of malice murder He was sentenced to life plus 25 years He received 20 years for aggravated assault against Brandon Wilson and five years for possession of a firearm during the commission of a felony The aggravated assault count merged into felony murder according to Dorsey versus state So no joke no as to what you know this guy was uh sends to

49:24Life plus 25 years And then on top of that now I don't know if it was concurrent or if it was consecutive But he got 20 years for aggravated assault And five years for possession of a firearm during the commission of a felony. I mean either way He is not going anywhere. No likely not right. He's never going to be a free person ever again Later that month Dorsey filed a motion for a new trial which he amended in October 2025 in December of that year Following two hearings the trial court denied his motion On October 13th, 2026 the Supreme Court of Georgia affirmed the conviction and sent Which is good. You know, this is a guy that shouldn't get out You know um He chose It was on will to get out of his

50:25recliner or wherever he was doing at his house Drive over there And shoot the car up I mean he could have just stayed at home and said miss This sucks this relationship's not going to work You know what else he could have done he could have left the gun at home good left the gun at home He could have showed up and maybe challenge the guy to a fist fight. Yeah, I'm not saying that's the right thing to do but You know just thinking back to like our younger days It wasn't a lot of guns involved no Like there were fist fights there were I did see one of my best friends beat to you know what with a Poolstick that was pretty brutal, but um But you know people walked away from a lot of these things right now their pride was hurt I'm sure for getting their ass kicked or whatever was And I'm not advocating for fighting But it's different when you bring a gun And you make the decision to use that gun

51:29The chances for Finality go up A thousand fold right? Oh, yeah, I mean I feel like back in my day. It was like fist You know maybe a chain now and then and somebody who was this anchor man Like you killed somebody with a tripe the warriors You know there are numb numb numb numb tux or none child none tux without the yeah Yeah, I just feel like okay you walked away with a bloody nose a split lip and yeah, it wasn't good I'm never advocating for it, but When you introduce a gun into the situation I mean there's such a great chance that someone's gonna lose their line. Yeah, no two ways around Escat and something really bad, but here we have him going through the appeals process You know he gets to the Georgia Supreme Court

52:31Gets no relief whatsoever. So what's the next step? He could take it to the US Supreme Court. Yeah, they're never gonna hear this case. I don't think so ever They're very picky about what they hear. Yeah, so I don't know what other options unless there's some bombshell piece of evidence that that comes out I feel like he's going to be in prison for the rest of his life Yeah, and there we hope get to show his manhood that he wanted to show that night that he didn't Yeah, I just wonder how often he's saying hey, you know bring it or whatever the words he used But you know when you look at this case Gibbs Janie Salazar Chavez had an unbelievably bright future She was hard working She was a kind young woman. Yeah, who wanted to serve as a pilot in the military before continuing her education Her life was tragically cut short by a love triangle that turned deadly

53:33Due to an act of extreme senseless gun violence You know, and then you have you know Brandon that said I just wanted to go home surprised my girlfriend Yeah, and then I have this tragic event that happened Plus I got my knee shot up all over because this jackass decided he needed to pull a gun out and yeah Yeah, you feel bad for Brandon, right? Obviously he wasn't expecting to find that so that his girlfriend had you know, maybe moved on from him or at the very least was seeing somebody else but That doesn't mean she should have been killed. Oh, not at all. Is that illegal? No, she you know now you can say well Ethically morally should you just have ended it before you started dating somebody else? I get that they weren't married. No, she wasn't committing adultery or you know something like that But yeah, you can make an argument that

54:35It would have been better to end it with him before starting something That's fine But she wasn't doing something to the point where she should have lost her line. No, not absolutely. Nope, but that said for our episode On janey salazar chavez Um, you know, it's just it's one of those things man you you kind of said it earlier which is love Like a love triangle. Yeah, this revenge you could put in there for Maybe you know him not being happy that she's actually still with this guy and again, we don't know what they all knew sure about Each other. Yeah, or what she had had told any of them jealous. He's just bad man. He jealousy That's the word I was looking for But the thing to me is Whether or not you agree with how she handled this situation

55:40She didn't deserve to die not at all she didn't do anything that was so unbelievably horrible that you know her life should have been I guess I just wish people would like Look if someone doesn't want to be with you Just end it if someone is doing something you don't like in their relationship Disind it. Yeah, you know, just walk away say I don't want a piece of this anymore And you've been pretty clear about that over the year. Yeah, right Do you know many people are in this country? Uh, this in US. I think it's like 340 legal People in 110 illegal 340 to 350 million or you know give or take whatever I guess I only say that To say there are a lot of people and that's just in this country. There are a lot of people out there Yeah, I understand you're in love with this person

56:42But if this person doesn't want you move on there are many other people out there. Yes, you really are There's plenty of fish in the sea The old saying right It is the old saying I don't really understand it Because you're quating partner with fish which First of all, you hate fish so that's a very strange saying for you you hate all seafood but yeah, that's it for our Another episode of True Crime all the time so for Mike and Gabby stay safe and keep your own time ticking