Jason Kipnis reacts to Cubs getting swept by Brewers

0:00My name is Layla Rehimi and I love sports and I don't care who knows. We like sports and we don't care who knows. Midday 10 AM to 2 on the score. There's some luck here and there and it's always better to be lucky than good. 100%, but I think they have a plan at the plate latent games, especially first our bullpen is that they've been looking for off-speed up. Short Nero's, Trio's pitch, home run was a change up up and in. There's no place for that ball to go but to the seats. Laura at the end too, it was a curve ball. While it ended up down, it starts with Trio bars, it curve ball goes up, it's got this hump into it so he's looking for off-speed up so he sees the hump. So he already knows I got this curve ball, it's coming over the plate. So while it ended down, he is now tracking it and he knows it's a curve ball early on to stay through it so they're looking for this off-speed up and that's why they're able to barrel it. Jason Kipnis right there on the marquee sports network from a couple of nights ago as we welcome you back into Rahimi and Grody on 1043 the score we are broadcasting live in

1:02the wild in the great outdoors of Cody's public house out here in Lakeview. So nice out here. The sun is shining, we're ordering pizza, we're eating popcorn, we're having a drink. We've got pups out here which is absolutely beautiful. A couple of lovely golden retrievers have just made their way in out here so it's a classic Chicago day if you're in the neighborhood or even outside of the neighborhood. We would love it if you came out here to Cody's public house and we are overjoyed now to have the opportunity to bring in our next guest. He is Jason Kipnis of the marquee sports network. He is an analyst for them. He's been doing pre and post throughout this brewer series where the Cubs get swept by Milwaukee including the eight six lost last night to the crew. Of course Kipnis, the former second basement of the Cubs and Cleveland, a two time all star. Maybe most importantly, Mr. Kipnis is a Northbrook Illinois native. I bet you love days like this at greater Chicago and don't you Jason Kipnis, how are

2:04you, sir? I'm doing well, gentlemen. Thank you for having me on and yeah, no, this time after that 90 degree kind of human week we just had last week. This is the perfect weather that I like in Chicago. Exactly. I think this is what we all wait for. We're all very selective here in Chicago. We get the full path of weather, but this is an absolutely ideal day out here at Cody's public house in Lakeview in Chicago. I love how you started the post game show yesterday, Jason, because you said, you said, let's just get out of Milwaukee. Let's just rid ourselves of this place. My question to you is, why is there such a gap between the Milwaukee brewers and the Chicago Cubs? It's not a gap necessarily in talent. It's not a gap in coaching. It's not a gap in effort. It's just sometimes teams have your numbers. And right now I think the brewers, especially this year, that's had the Cubs numbers. So I think it's one of those ones where you went in with a lot of hope that, hey, we're in the last month of baseball, we're getting close to the brewers.

3:06Maybe let's make this a series. What if we take two or three hell? What if we take all three, we could, the division becomes very interesting down the stretch. I think we didn't go the way the Cubs wanted to this last series. And I think by the end of there, I think it's just one of those ones. They know that they still have a good post season running and they know they still have a wildcard series to look at. So Milwaukee just had their number. They were ready to get out of there. I think they were achieved what they wanted to anymore and they needed to face someone else. No, I think you're right about that, Jason. And additionally, I thought you had a lot of excellent observations on the post game show. I've passed a few days just talking about what you're seeing. Having that experience as a hitter, I would like to go back to not yesterday. I want to get to what you talked about Kevin Gosman, but two days prior, were you noted the brewers approach against the Cubs bullpen seemingly working through it with no issues. You know, can you expand on that? Just what you saw and how the brewers had the number when it came to just the data, what they were seeing out of the pictures as a whole in the pen and how they were able to

4:09attack them. Well, it's a mixture of things. So I kind of, I try not to be so much as an analyst as much as I am, like just a former player and what I see and what I would be like if I was in the dug out watching. What would be my approach? And so I take that into kind of any, any bad, any hitting one or one is kind of hunt the fastball, get the off speed up and then you go from there and then you've kind of watched the game and see what patterns are forming from the other team or what's going on. And you just noticed that these guys were just fitting dead red fastballs and then hunting mistakes up in the zone. They were barely chasing any of the ballpen's pitches out of the zone. So it seems like they were just aggressive early in the at bats and for something up. And we talked about it a little bit even last night. I think it was, it could have been two nights ago where it's like as good as these pitches are getting with their stuff on their throwing 102 and all this stuff, when your off speed is up in the zone, it's just not as sharp. It doesn't have that bite to it. It's a curveball that's not spitting as much so it doesn't break down or a change of

5:09that floats rather than drops off. And those are the pitches that hitters that we look for. Those are like the mistakes that you look for. They also happen to be not as sharp but they also happen to be not located where the pitcher wants to be. So those are the ones that throw a hunting and I think you can't, while the brewers don't have this big basher's lineup, they have a lot of good at bats throughout that lineup and a lot of good contact guys who will make you pay for those mistakes, especially if they're made late in games. And that's exactly what happened to series. Yeah, man, it's funny though. Like they don't depend on the home run to win their games but they've been hitting against the cups. Another three home runs last night against Gossman. I guess that's the frustrating part. Like they can break that part out. Like their organizational philosophy is just so sound and I guess sometimes, and I guess this is where I'm going with this and even the organization for which you used to play for Cleveland, when you're not signing the big names, sometimes you tighten up in the best possible way in terms of making sure you win in other ways. Would you like to see more franchises play that way and could the cups afford to adopt

6:14any of that from what Milwaukee does? Every team at this league can adopt from what Milwaukee does and what that's playing good baseball. That's controlling the at bats. That's controlling the bat that's situational hitting. They will bunch it down. They will get guys. The best thing I could say about Milwaukee is that they don't beat themselves. They don't shoot themselves in the foot. They don't make really careless mistakes too often that cost them games. Usually they are the ones that capitalize on the other team that makes the mistakes and they're just, they lean on you and they just lean on you for nine days until you break pretty much. So they're always there to capitalize on mistakes. They don't let them pass. So they're very an opportunistic team there. But every team can do that. I think as much fun as like an Aaron Judges to have on your team and I don't think anybody would not like to have Aaron Judges on his team. But you could see how unless he's hitting the ball the ballpark sometimes in the playoffs, he might disappear at times. I think there's some guys where, hey, give me that high average, that high contact rate guy in the postseason or something when, because when emotions get heightened, when adrenaline

7:19gets high, you want someone to just put the bat in the ball, put it in play. And I think that's where the best things happen in this game. Well, and I think you bring up such a good point when it comes to, you know, you having played for Terry Francona, for example, a guy who's known for making sure that his outfield is placed right, making sure that the productive outs are there. All the fundamentals that speak to this, you know, I thought about you when you talked to about the, say, Suzuki play where he slides off the bag at third base. And was that ball even, even deep enough to be able to do that? You asked the question, like, why is he tagging? And I think your observations are so driven back to that point that you just talked about the details you played for a manager like that, even in that play, you know, what did you see there that led to that failure in the breakdown? Well, I don't, and I almost want to, I'm glad you brought that up because I do want to talk about that a little bit. So at first, I was maybe harsh and then I could have been because there was no outs and I thought there was one out because they put the one out up there real fast when he caught the ball. So I understand that, say, it was trying to get to third base to be there with less than

8:21two outs so he could tag on a, a sex fly or a pass ball happens or something like that. And I don't want the cops to ever lose their aggressiveness. I like that they put pressure on defenses. I like they, they create traffic. That's what you want to do as an officer's a whole always. That being said, and that kind of situation I probably did have is you are the most important part right there. You cannot run into an out no matter what. And people are like, well, he beat the throne. He was safe. It's not a play in first base where as long as he beat the throw and touch the back first, you're safe. You're not safe until the play is dead and you're still standing on that bag. And if you can't get to third base without that slide and staying on the back, you're not safe. So I think it's a little bit of a say a learning lesson where especially if that ball's coming from left center, he knows that the throw is going to be to the right side of third base. That's where the third base was going to catch the ball. He should already be starting his slide to the left side of the bag. And he should be starting to slide with the under the control of I'm going to be as far away from the bag as I can and just have my hand there.

9:23And I'm going to slide into my hand stays on the bag. There shouldn't be any part of you that I have to be so fast and out of control that I can't keep my momentum onto the bag because that is just too big of a risk to even go and it while you're especially because you're already in scoring position. I thought that that was great analysis. And Jason, I do want to touch on the other part of that, which is having played for Terry for Encona and knowing how he manages a game and the fundamentals that you talk about. What were your biggest takeaways? Even in what you just said, I feel like that's part of it. Just learning how those details get buttoned up the way they do. Well, I mean, he's one of those ones. Like I could sit next to him and we would just talk baseball and I would just love to kind of like learn the game because I know how I play the game. I know how I would know the game, but I don't know what a manager goes through his head or what he's thinking and stuff like that. So it was always fun to kind of pick his brain and stuff like that. And let's say that play happened to me when I was in Cleveland and I slip past the bag. The first thing I know is Tito would have my back of the media and he would probably take them blunt of the feedback.

10:24The poor feedback and be like, I was maybe as my fault or I like that he's been aggressive and he'd have my back of the media terms. But I would still be pissed off and he would still expect me to know whether I that I have to be safe in that situation. And that's not something that you're putting the team kind of at risk there by running into an out that we just couldn't afford right there. So now you got me thinking here, Jason Kibness of the Marquis Sports Network and former All-Star, former CUB, former Cleveland Guardian. I guess you were Cleveland Indian technically back in the day. What you're excellent doing the broadcasting, but is that your future broadcasting or do you want to like coach or anything like that? Like what are your goals, young man? Where do you see yourself in five years from now, Jason Kibness? Well, I haven't been called a young man in a while, so I appreciate that. You still are. I try to be. You know what? I've been asked a little bit about coaching. I think I help out with the high school that I went to. One of my close friends got the head varsity gig in Glemburg, North High School.

11:27So I was helping him the last couple of years coaching the North suburbs there. I enjoy it. I don't know if I enjoy the major league schedule enough to go back to it to do something like that, but listen, I never claimed to be the smartest guy in the world, but one thing I did know was baseball. And one thing I can talk about until I'm blue in the face is baseball. So I enjoy. I think after I retired, I wanted to get away from the game a little bit. I think that I, whether I was bitter at the game, I still wanted to play and I was just mad at it and I just needed to separate from it. But now it's like I still love the game. I still want to be a part of it. I still want to give back to the game. So I think this is the best way that I've been able to kind of like slowly dip my toe in the water and kind of here's 25 games from our key. Here's a couple radio and TV for Cleveland. So I think it's hard to be able to get back into the game, get back into the limelight a little bit. And I am enjoying it. I enjoy talking about it. So it's been fun so far. I don't know if it's a full time future, but I do enjoy it.

12:29Well we've really enjoyed your broadcast. And also there is one observation that I got to make about Jason Kipness, Team No Days Off. I think it was five days after the World Series ended in 2016. I saw you at the gym in the morning. Notification. Yeah. I'm just a little bit more relaxed. That might have been blowing some steam off too though. So you probably got me into this job. I'll work out right there. It's a very busy gym in town and you could have been talking to a lot of people or they could have talked to you. So I just, I made note of that was like dang. That's hilarious. Here you are out in a busy busy public chatty gym five days later working out. That was pretty impressive. Hey, wait a minute. I'm sure I had the headphones on loud though just to make sure I didn't get any conversations yet. Yeah, you were in the zone. I was not about to bug you. Are the guardians going to catch the white socks? You do a little work for Cleveland. Are the guardians going to catch the socks or the two games? You know what? I live in Chicago. I'm a North suburb native and I'm working from our key but make no mistake.

13:31I follow the guardians real close as well. They are in a tight playoff race. Same as the Cubs are right now too. So I think they're buckle up for both fan bases because there's going to be some little moving pieces to these wild card standings for the next couple of weeks. It's going to be some fun baseball. So I hope they do. I know they have one big series left with the white socks that could be the end all. Can this city see your qualified answer this question? Could this city handle a Cubs white socks world series? Are we capable? There's a lot of people in the audience right now saying no shaking their heads. No, we couldn't. We would not be capable. Conor O'Donnell shaking its head. Our video guy. What do you think, Kipness? I want that more than anything. Think about that. Think about as a sports fan, as a whether you are a Chicago fan because I'm a Chicago fan too. But think about if you're just a white socks fan, if you're a Cubs fan, to have that experience in your life and that may even it and take this from someone who played in the World Series and lost in the World Series. But I love that I had that experience and I am grateful for that.

14:34How cool would that be to have the memories that would come from that of meeting people at the bar to watch the game, the friends, the rivalries, all the conversations and talks. I think that'd be one of the cool things in the world and I think that'd be great for sports and great for the city. So I want to see it happen. Okay. Okay. I mean, someone's going to walk away just hurts and lost forever. But there will be fights. But yeah, there will be the stakes or the stakes are high. You're right about that. Oh man, I can't imagine Jason. He needs to be worthwhile fights. Fair. Fair. Well said. Jason, thank you so much. We appreciate it and hopefully we'll get you back on Reheaming and Grotee sometime soon. Thank you. I love it. Thank you for having me on it. Thank you for watching Marquis. What do you guys do? Oh, absolutely. It's our pleasure. Jason, thank you so much. Take care guys. It's Jason Kipness. Yep. Take care, man. Jason Kipness with Marquis. I'm not even kidding. I want to say it was less than that. The World Series was less than a week over.

15:35And he was working on it. He was at the gym in front of a ton of people. I'd be blowing off theme two if I was that team. They don't get beat. I don't know that I would be running around in public. And that's, you know, that's a guy who cared about his gym time. Well, I wanted to get back out there and get the team no days off. Probably got some sympathy from people. I mean, like nobody's going to be mad at Jason Kipness in Chicago. Like, it comes one game seven and no, but I just was like, dang, that's that's some dedication. That is no doubt. This Saturday joined 104th Readscore, Lago Nitas and Heineken at sluggers with me, Mark Grote. I'm just reading the script here from 11 AM to 1 PM. I know this is very self-indulgent. Stop by for your chance. This is about you now. This is your chance to win a pair of passes to riot best. While enjoying the thing keeps moving on me. You're moving the thing on me. Having free samples of Lago Nitas, happy or happy refresher and Heineken 0.0, that's

16:36Saturday at sluggers starting at 11 o'clock. Coming up at his halftime will tell you all the cool things that we've been talking about and are hanging out here at Cody's public house in the outdoor patio in Lakeview. We will tell you all about that, tell you what we've been talking about on the show. And we just had Mike Floreo on yesterday talking about Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin kept messing something up last night. People start having, they need to start putting, putting respect on his name. This is unacceptable. You've been saying that about this player for a long time. You've led the way for a wide receiver named Jackson Smith and Jigba. We will have news on him coming up next year on Rahimi and Grote live from Cody's public house on 1043 The Score.