Jarrett Payton remembers Matt Suhey (Hour 1)

0:00Wake up! Wake up! Come on, guess wake up, man. David Ha! David Ha? You muted in. Sorry about that. Hello, George. So, that was one of the best questions you've ever asked. Yeah, I'm sure it's going to get an answer just as good. This is Ha. Yeah. Okay. Ha, check me out, man. Jared Payton! Me, we want you to see this, Jared Payton, wearing his father's number number 34. Jared, man, man, I love you on the score, man. The Ha and Payton Show! We'll come back here next time we're together at Tuesday morning. It's Game Week. It's Game Week! Game Week right around the corner. I mean, if I didn't feel good about him week one, I know when we get into a true game plan process and we have defined plays and we're able to watch tape and back it up. I think he plays even faster than we're showing so far in camp. So, we're going to be in a good spot.

1:02I'm excited for week one. I ain't going to put one big over the other. I can't wait for week one. When they come back, I know they'll be amped up and ready to go for Carolina. It's, the people are ready for the bear. Get up in the morning with the Ha and Payton Show! Morning's 5.30 to 10. On Chicago's sports radio. You can't wear white shoes after Labor Day. That's not true anymore. Yes, it is. 1043, the score. So I gotta get up in the morning. Good Tuesday morning, Chicago. Welcome back to your work week. This is the Ha and Payton Show at Chicago's sports radio. 1043, the score broadcasting live. From the Hyundai score studios, it is Game Week. The NFL is back. The first college football week season week one is over. Or maybe they're still going on because college football is drunk. But good morning, Jared. How are you? Good morning, D.H. I'm doing well this morning, man. Always good to be in your presence and talk a little sports. It's Game Week. It is. So I'm excited. You know, the bears are back in college football was amazing over the week.

2:05College football was amazing. That's one word for it. It was outrageous is another. It was corrupt. Maybe they're screaming in Kalamazoo, Michigan. But yes, it was ever present. And it was fun to watch. And I think all of us, all four of us spent time watching a lot of college football. Dustin probably consumed the Notre Dame fighting Irish looking good on Sunday night. Brandon, I don't know what's your game of choice. My game of choice when it comes to this weekend, I would have to go for me. I like watching Miami because I think we finally found like a new Heisman front run advantage. Oh, no. What's one? Now what's up? Yes. I mean, he did all that in the first half. I put it up his desk. Hold on. Damn, Mensa though. I mean, Mensa is he's the one throwing the ball so I think it's hard. Let me see that dynamic duo. Man, let me humbly submit the fact and I watch this painfully as Ohio State ran all over my ball state cardinals.

3:07But Jeremiah Smith is the best receiver in America. Okay. Okay. I'll get proven otherwise. That's a good debate though. It is a great debate. Tony versus Smith, we'll talk about it all season long. But right now, after game one, I understand why you'd say that. By the numbers. The body of, I think the body of work is still more impressive if you're sharing my Smith. But I mean, he is your prototypical wide receiver. Big body, go up and get it, can run all the routes. Malachi though, I was fighting with my son about this. It just, like I get where you're coming from. When you look at the specimen, but what Malachi can do, I said, man, he's going to have an amazing career in the NFL when he gets there. That's the kind of argument you want to have after week one in college football, not the kind of argument that ensued after Western Michigan was robbed of the victory against Michigan with the second being put on back on the clock and all the things that happened in the big house.

4:09So that's a controversial start to the weekend into college football. We saw Lane Kiffin entertain. We saw last night the travesty of a hour and 40 minute delay because the power went out in Tallahassee. How does that happen? That's what happens if you don't pay your light bills and you pay transformers. And you're trying to pay all these players, but you don't take care of your light bills. I love the fact that I saw Miami just go at it and had, they had like a light show going on at the hard rock and say, well, our lights will be on this week. We're not worried about it. And I'll name image and lighting. And there was none of it, not enough of it in Tallahassee. Yeah, there was a lot of college football stuff. We will get to as much of that as we can. It is Game Week, the NFL begins tomorrow. Tomorrow, the NFL season begins. With Seattle and the defending Super Bowl champion Seahawks against the Patriots and then we'll go out to Australia and then over to Brazil.

5:12And then finally leading up to Sunday where the Bears opened the season Sunday in North Carolina against the Panthers. Cubs and socks over the weekend. The socks had laid, had Labor Day off. That was kind of odd. Was it not? Yeah. You had all day. I know it probably benefited their bullpen because they had a bullpen game this weekend. But I do think that it was strange not to have the white socks to watch yesterday. Yeah, it was very strange for me just to not have the South Sideers on. But we did get a little bit. We got some cubs yesterday. Yeah, we did. We got enough cubs. Cubs lose up in Milwaukee to the Mighty Brewers. And I say Mighty because Craig Council would scold us if we didn't say that they were Mighty and the best team in baseball. Every time he talks about the Brewers after the game, they have to remind everybody they are the best team in baseball. But they do the little things. And I think he is showing them respect. It's been a little facetious. But they had a game there that they was there for the taking. Matthew Boyd, seven stronggiddings, sent out to the eighth.

6:12We'll talk about some of the things there. But the moment he went out to the mound and the eighth inning, I wondered if that was the right move. Yeah. I mean, you can weaken question, Craig Council all the time. And we will do that on the show all the time. But it is. It's very, it's odd to kind of think about when you try to make those decisions. And are you maybe concerned or have a little bit of doubts with your bullpen? So it's just very interesting looking forward to talking that with you. He did have, he did have an explanation. He did talk about how Matthew Boyd in the eighth inning it was about matchups. I think Brandon, we have that from Craig Council because he explained his thought process. Matthew Boyd was in the 90s and he trusted his veteran lefty to go out there for the eighth inning. Yeah, there's a, we're not going to get a match up there. So you're, yeah, there's, there's a non matchup happening with a pinch hitter. And yeah, you're getting probably bowers at that point. Yes. Okay. It didn't work.

7:12So it looked like it was the wrong decision. Had it worked. Certainly it would have looked better. And then for John had been a guy they trusted for a five out save over the weekend. And that was impressive down in Miami. They needed that badly. And they went back to the well maybe once too often. Yes. So yeah, I'd retrospect it looks like they should have left, they should have gone to the effort job for a clean inning. They talk all the time about clean innings. Yeah. Isn't that what you want? Yeah, it's what you want. You know, after what it was the boy gave up the walk then if I'm not mistaken. The second time though he walked the a hitter. That's he scored twice. He walked twice and scored twice and you lost by a run. That can't happen. Not against the best team internationally. And especially a team that does all the little things right and will make you pay down the stretch. Why does that upset you David? Like he keeps adding the best. I don't know why it does. Right. They are. They are the best team.

8:13And maybe he doesn't have to state it all the time. But they are the best team. That's a good question, Brad. I don't have to examine that. Why does it bother me every time after games they lose to the brewers? They beat them two to one on Thursday night. Do you remember that? Yeah. Can I answer it? I was there. It bothers me because he was he was brought the other side of the cheddar curtain to be the difference between the cubs and the brewers. Because if it's it's this small and the thought was that if you were able to steal away the skipper, the guy who's stirring the drink of this low franchise low price franchise team blah blah blah blah blah blah. I think this is going to be the day. And if anything, he's getting it's he's getting stuffed. The real guy is the other guy is his mentor is the real secret sauce of the whole thing. I think that that's it. It's part of it with Craig Council in Milwaukee. The assumption was big market cubs small market brewers. They're winning in Milwaukee because they were winning in the margins.

9:15They're winning because they were smarter than everybody else did the little things right. And it was partly because mostly because of the manager. So let's go steal the manager. Okay. How's that gone? They're still the team winning in the margins. They're still smarter than the cubs. They're still better. So yeah, I guess it does rank on me. Thanks Brandon. Yeah, but I get that out. I also think that it comes down to Craig Council kind of laying the foundation in that smaller market with the brewers. And they kind of kept it they've kept the same tone of what they've what they've done. And it's it seems to be a thorn in his side. If you haven't seen it, it's a good read. It's kind of a good for a chuckle. Steve Greenberg went up to Whitefish Bay, Wisconsin. Sometimes columnist. And I believe it was in either yes, yeah, it was a Monday morning, sometimes he wrote a column and he went to the grocery store and he went to a local bar and he went to a local deli and he talked to people about who's a better manager. Pat Murphy or the guy who they named Little League fields after who's kids to go to high school there and he went to the high school and talked to the athletic director.

10:23It was a very well done column, but I do think that the Murphy versus council thing is something that's not going away anytime soon. Oh, that's the brewers. The brewers aren't going anywhere. You better figure it out. Better figured out better figure it out Craig back in action today. And I think they have Jacob Mizorowski again tonight. David Peterson against the Miz and we're supposed to look that's going to be. I know they just knocked him out of the game. Well, you think it's going to be a different story. Yeah, different stories that he's at home. Yeah, he's at the crib. It's going to listen, anything can happen. He's going to put one his pants on one leg at a time. Yes, I was just like Paul Schien's David puts his pants on one leg at a time. But you know, he's going to be sleeping in his own bed. He did tonight. Last night still feels like the night. Cubs and brewers back in action. White socks back at the rate later today against the pirates who.

11:23The pirates in town to play the socks and they skip. Schien's yeah, isn't that yeah, little lucky there. Schien's gets the cubs on Friday. Oh, man, Friday afternoon, wriggly field. That's appointment. That's appointment radio. Am I being appointment to go see too? Be a lot of fun. You better take me this time. All right, so there's a lot going on. We'll get to some other things that happen over the weekend. But I wanted to give you an opportunity because you Chicago and bears fans and the bears family lost a very important member over the weekend. Matt, Sue, we passed away at the age of 68. And your posts over the weekend were very touching. We talked and I know that it was very emotional for you and your family. And I just thought a lot of people were caught off guard by the news because of 68 is way too young. And the memories are still way too fresh. And so it was very difficult weekend. I'm sure for you and your family and appreciate you sharing what you did because the reaction and socials I'm sure to you and even just reposting what you did.

12:30People are really it's it's the 85 bears man. Yeah, it's just that era and people remember. How are you doing and how would you describe just we'll talk about it throughout the show and we'll take calls later if people want to talk about it. But just from your perspective, how difficult of a weekend was this and what will you remember most? David, it was it was very difficult because it caught me off guard. This is not something that you know I thought was coming or new possibly could be coming. So it through the whole family for through a loop. We were the conversation once we got the phone call. The pain that I saw on my mom's face when she took the phone call will be something that I'll remember forever. Matt Sui wasn't just number 26 Chicago Bears 85 bears team. Matt was a part of my family. When my dad passed in 1999 Matt basically became my father figure.

13:32My dad this is their relationship was so close that when my when my dad knew that he was dying he left Matt in charge of his image and likeness family decisions because he trusted him that he would not only make the right decisions but he would also make the right decisions for our family and look after us. And that's what he did. I look at their friendship on the field and how what Matt did as a as a full back his job blocking for my dad clearing holes making sure that he got through and got got all the glory. Matt did the exact same thing off the field. He was always there and he did it by the kindness of his heart. From 1999 up to the present day Matt did this without asking for anything in return. And that's what shows me what kind of friendship that those two had and as a kid growing up and watching them together I knew what a true friend was.

14:32It was those two together and watching how they cared for each other how they they did everything together and man just just the relationship that grew over time after my dad passed anything that I ever needed. Any time that I picked up the phone he was there for me I he the relationship that he's had with my kids over the years as well watching them grow up. Matt was a true best friend and I know we all look at Brian's song and we see it's a part of our culture here in Chicago as bears fans. But there needs to be a story on 34 and 26 because when you look at their friendship and everything that they went through a true bond. Man there is there is nothing like it so I am grateful for Matt Sui for all that he did for our entire family what he's done for the city of Chicago. The hardest worker that I've ever seen I mean this dude was not only back in back at the 80s he was playing football and then coming downtown to the board of trade.

15:35He's a floor trader yes that's amazing like that's what he was doing that business savvy is what he offered you yeah and I think you benefited from as you have described. When you do you recall conversations with your dad about why Matt Sui was the type of friend or their friendship why the friendship was the way that it was. It was never really a conversation it was more on the outside looking into how they were when they were around each other. You know best friends like the smiles the joke and around my dad would always joke around and that picture of my dad pulling down that pants. That right there is the it that is them it was it was my dad always saying listen I'm I got you man like you I know you got my back and I got yours. But it was just really watching how they came together as as friends all the time and had each other's back and I wish I was older older back in the 80s so I really could have understood the game of football was seven when my dad retired so I was getting a better understanding.

16:38Yeah to see what they did and for him to be a part of all those yards that my dad racked up and people of a certain age remember Matt Sui certainly you apologized as you say like the the companion the the good friend of Walter Peyton but at the same time he was a dynamic football player in a versatile one unbelievable I think that's hopefully people got a chance to be able to see some of those those clips. I mean we're talking about a guy I was watching Penn State film and I was watching them run away going 60 70 yards for a touchdown I was like Matt I didn't know you had wheels like that but then he what he came to Chicago. It was a little bit rough early on but then started to get a part of the offense and catch the ball the backfield downfield as well a good blocker but also run the football he was he was everything that you want in a football player he was a second round draft pick he was a second round draft pick who the bears took in 1980 it's going way back and I know certain people maybe part members of the five a club are are able to remember those years but at the time the bears drafted Matt Sui.

17:46Matt Sui one of the reasons and I think as a stories go I certainly I was just an observer as well but damn Pompey's story there but it's included some books but your dad was a little bit reticent to that decision because of his loyalty and and the way that he worked well with Roland Harper yeah Roland Harper was the full back that created all the space and was associated with Walter Peyton for so many years early on and then oh boy they're drafting a full back to replace Roland Harper and the the the perception was and history sort of records this as Walter Peyton being chilly to that idea and get making Matt Sui kind of earn his way not only in the locker room but within him being accepted by Peyton your dad himself. Yeah I think two guys from different walks of life and once you get a chance to know one another and my dad was always going to make you earn it especially if you were in the backfield with him and Roland Harper and my dad were just as close as well so I could only imagine what that conversation was like or how he kind of made Matt feel inside of that locker room but once Matt earned it that right there was a driving force for the success that they had together.

18:58But over the years you have then you grew up and and became yeah after Miami he was your uncle Matt yeah and that's the way you referred to him and you became close with his family and that still remains something that is you're going to help having to help each other the support that that you'll lend his family morning the loss of Matt Sui. Yeah I think that's the hardest part is understanding where they're coming from because I've been through this when especially in this city we love our athletes and when you you love someone so much when that when something like this happens it becomes you know front page news everybody knows about it especially in this day and age and so I know how it felt for them to kind of go through the process on Saturday dealing with everything that they were dealing with missing. Donna missing her husband and the kids missing their dad but also to I think we've had a chance to talk along with Sui's about just reflecting on the amazing person that he was and that's what we're going to celebrate.

20:00Well address it more in the pick six is certainly throughout the program as we said if people want to call away in beginning at seven o'clock we'll start taking phone calls. We've got a big show today it is Tuesday back to work Tuesday in the city Chicago and everywhere else it's game week for the Chicago Bears who were back at practice on Monday the news out of how I saw it not great Jarrett because the backfield is back intact they were healthy common unguy in Deandre Swift but Roma dunes a still with that foot injury which he said famously last spring was going to be his new normal is now an old problem. Because he mispractice and it's scary to think about that that wide receiver room as we head into game week now because it changes a little bit I know you had depth in there but not a lot of experience and that's the hard part and so they are going to be tested out the gate it is really good though that this run a game seems to be on track. For what they need to do against Carolina but they're going to have to figure this thing out which I think that's where you have the tight end room so so built with a bunch of tight ends well talk today wants to at seven 25 about game week and what it represents Brad big big time will be at eight o'clock Bruce Levine checks in at 825 because the Cubs and socks had busy weekends the socks had Monday off the Cubs back in Milwaukee as we said facing Jacob Mizorowski tonight Mike Florio because the NFL is a lot of fun.

21:28Florio because the NFL season starts tomorrow night in a day with one day away and he will join us at nine o'clock from pro football talk a lot of other things that come up a long way including so there was this gigantic concert at soldier field over the weekend two of them in fact did you go I did not go but one of our one of our group dead and Brandon was at the concert how would you describe the Kanye West concert was amazing one of best concerts and I'm saying that not because I'm I mean I am a Kanye fan music wise. It was a lot of guests that he brought that I was a fan of a lot of a lot of accident he kept bringing out so I was a big fan of that Brandon question for you when you look at how he does this concert we've only seen it from social a lot of people said that they will never ever see go to if they ever go to another concert it will never be the same again. That's true and I feel like it's going to start the wave of how conscious going to be if you don't know I'll give you a quick quick little kind of description of it he's performing on like a globe it's like pretty much a video trying like you you can see.

22:34Like a scoreboard you can see the video but he's on top of it but it shows him like kind of on top of the world yeah so I mean on that the production of it looks amazing you never seen something like that and I was always wondering like man I hope he stays on right that nobody falls off but I mean the guess he kept bringing out and just. The catalog is just and the crowd was full was star studded it was definitely star studded after like I saw certain things that Caleb Williams in the skies Williams was in the crowd in the crowd in disguise with a ski mask glasses just in fields former bear was there they were the same building at the same time they were in the same building at the same time and then we had a couple of packers that was there too Michael Parsons and Jordan love was there on that as well. And then it crossed enemy lines come see the show what are they doing as so you feel that was fans chanting at Michael Parsons and Jordan love as they were leaving out of the stadium.

23:36Here's fans are amazing they never miss I love you guys so much that's funny that is that is what it's all about it was quite a long concert was it not. Oh yeah it was definitely long long walk and a long way to get to the concert to leave him from the concert and it was a long Friday night going into Saturday so he did it tonight to the row and. So soldier field was packed already anticipation that did you didn't go no no too late for me I'm. Hey it's all good but I was I've been watching from afar on social media and it looked amazing soldier fields is the bears don't open there for until week two but tomorrow has another star stud it doesn't probably match the Kanye concert but it'll be messy and Robert Lewandowski. So that is tomorrow night at soldier field the Chicago fire against Miami and that's going to be I think it'll be full soldier field to be sold out I don't think sold out you don't think so I bet you're not okay okay yeah let me retract my statement it's messy so yeah it meant anything's I was there last time he was in town last year and it was sold out it was quite a ticket it was quite a thing speaking of stadiums by the way we're going to get to this the white socks.

24:55Yeah they're coming they're coming to the South Loop you see that the renderings the renderings renderings are undefeated undefeated I was I was like time you think of beauty sign me up for some season tickets that's that broke that broke Saturday morning with during inside the clubhouse crane Chicago business. Released the story and the renderings and Bruce even Bruce was impressed by the renderings. I mean if that happens I mean nothing there's nothing better in terms of devising a stadium or explaining what it's going to look like AI is great when you want to stadium renderings yeah I mean it's to see where how it looks across the street from the soon to be new fire stadium I mean it this is what socks fans are hoping for the rail yards that's what is called and I love that to we'll find out more details along the way. We'll talk about it all when we come back the pick six is next is hot patent Chicago sports radio 104 3 this score wow. It's pick six with Ha and Peyton where we debate the top six sports stories of the day and then open it up to you the Chicago sports fan call us at 312 644 67 67 or you can

26:10tweet your thoughts at all Peyton pick six with all and Peyton starts now and pick six this morning brought to you by finishing Chicago great finishes start with the contractors from finishing Chicago dot com 17 games left after blowing another late lead against the brewers on Monday afternoon how confident are you feeling about the Cubs and where or who is your biggest concern. Alright so they're not going to catch the brewers I think well can accept that you worry about the Phillies you worry about the Phillies because they have lasardo who threw a complete game shut out and for young Cubs fans who don't realize what a shut out is or a complete game that's when a pitcher goes nine innings and doesn't give up a run. That's like it's something from old baseball old school baseball cash whorver by the way leads a majors in home or still ahead of PCA PC might catch him but that's a team you do want to avoid but I don't think the Cubs are going to be able to if you can't avoid the Phillies you want to play

27:12regularly feel the that's going to be difficult Cubs are half game back it's attainable to still be the number one wildcard that is where you are that's who you are you're the second best team in the NL Central again. The biggest concern is the bullpen still when you turn over a game to the bullpen there's no degree of confidence that the Cubs are going to protect a lead of late we've seen them just blow too many there are moments like Ryan Zephyr John in Miami getting a five out save there will be moments ahead the Jacob Webb who's coming back from the contusion on his arm that will remind you how good of a season. He's had Ryan Rolison has stepped forward and been the lefty that's been very dependable out of the pen but on any given day it could be any given guy and I don't know if that's the way that you want it to be heading into October Daniel

28:13Plansia remains a command mess so that's the biggest concern the Cubs though you when you look at their offense and what the cable of doing they'd have the star power with PCA they have the overall offensive numbers to suggest they could win any series against anybody you look at the numbers and run scored in team OPS and all where they are and yet they're wildly inconsistent so they are a second place team with World Series aspirations and that sounds crazy but that's exactly who they are and because of how streaky they've been I wouldn't rule them out but I have tremendous concerns about the relief pitching so bring up I'm counting now after saying I would never do this I really am looking forward to Justin Steele's continued maybe progress he made over the weekend I'm curious about Jackson Wiggins and I wouldn't mind seeing Edward Cabrera so yeah there I'm relying on definite babies

29:20you're being Jed Hoyer you're helping fix the problem that is the problem that is a problem I know it didn't necessarily play out but they gave Michael Bush the day off yesterday because he's facing a tough left guy you know a lefty who's tough on lefties yes sir it couldn't you couldn't you have taken a day off in Miami I you you're going you the likelihood of playing the brewers in the postseason if you get to where you want to get to pretty high and guess what's going to happen in that game Michael Bush is going to play against that pitcher so why wouldn't you want him to get that experience I understand the day off that guy plays all the time they don't have a backup for a space right and yesterday the kid did all right at first base and nothing to do with the winner the loss I'm just talking about an experience factor so that that I'm sick of that you know good news on good news on Justin Steele good news on dance be swanson right like by could by the we get to next Tuesday of this time next week

30:25could we be talking about dance be swanson making his first game back it sounded like they needed to get through the pirates here or whoever's it yeah the pirates are back at rigley they're spending a whole week in Chicago so after that series maybe we see dance be swanson maybe a little too cute going to zephyrjon again when they went to him but they wanted to see and I guess they're they're experimenting they feel like they're in a spot where they're going to make the postseason they also seem like a team that is now conceded to the brewers and that line up a little bit more than that up a little bit yesterday made it feel like they had conceded to the brewers I'm a little concerned more I think a more concerned now that I was probably two weeks ago when you look at this ball club you guys have both said where I was going with this thing you you can find ways to get good starting pitching but the big issue is your bull pin your starters are giving you what you need your your bats are doing what they can do but your bull pin is not being able to finish games and to me you we see a guy like PCA doing his thing say I was a zuki and

31:33pregnant holding up their end of the bargain but it comes down to having to lead latent games and then you get in the situation and you start probably second guest in yourself like Craig council was last night about figure out what to do and how to figure this thing out because you can't trust your pin and division is let's not it's out of reach but what it comes down to is can you get that top wild card spot and if the Phillies are on right there and you're in that race and you're trying to figure it out every game matters every game matters so from here on out for these next two you got to find a way to I don't know if you I don't know if you win tonight I know that's terrible but you need to get one of these before you leave out before you leave out of Milwaukee and so that is what's probably the most concerning and if things are going to be this tight all the way every game is going to count so the cubs have to find a way with this bull pin and Craig council what he's done and keeping it kind of up with

32:40masking tape and and some duct tape here and there I don't even know gorilla glue he's caulking yeah he's doing whatever whatever he's got to do to be able to make his job but it's not going to be easy and could make down the stretch must watch TV for all cup fans. My first question in yesterday in the pregame was that is the voice of Bruce the vine and he is going in the show at 825 this morning same question for the white socks they've got 19 games left and the pirates they are in town Paul schemes not scheduled to pitch until Friday against the cubs how confident are you feeling about the socks and where or who is your biggest concern. I am confident in the South sideers listen they we know what they're all about this team has been the same we've watched them we've had question questions of starting pitching and this here and there are different things they they still find a way they're still first place in the division and so I look at it huge not getting Paul schemes I mean that right there is definitely a

33:50big plus for them but I think the concern is how they put together down this stretch and specially away from the south side they're 32 and 40 away from the rate and I know they've been better as this team is gone through the second half of the season but they have to find ways to offense we know is good enough when the bats are working they can make a match with the best of them. Starting pitching I think has always been better than people have thought throughout the season they just can't afford to be able to give up games away on the road and to me that is what's most concerning if they can take care of business and I think that series with the guardians is going to be huge you don't want them to get anywhere close if they can find a way to do that. Dobe okay I'm confident in the South Side first place September the eighth with a game off you know like it the yesterday to me the calendar turned from summer to fall yes because it's week one of the NFL season it's your last quote unquote day off until Thanksgiving right I mean unless you take the off there's no there's no government there's no federal days off no more white pants no more white

35:06pants I don't know I white shoes I'm always wearing white shoes I'm just letting you know I think that's yeah I never heard the word that one it's always wear white shoes yeah so that's a whole not that's another story but the starting pitching is probably a thing they who is your guy and again I know I've been kind of complaining about him but is there a white socks fan out there that is fine with what Louise Castillo has come to Chicago no no no a lot of people say well he was this that and that before you got him what did you expect I expected to change a scenery I expected that opportunity to pitch in the playoffs I expected you know the organization committing to you further the 30 plus million dollars next year and you know the guy that you're going to get if you if you get your stuff together you're going to get the ball in the biggest games in the biggest moments come October for this team and he just hasn't gotten the job done at all he has not he's been a disappointment he's been somebody that you regret giving up what you've given up but it also is as you point out September 8th if by the end of the season you look at Louise Castillo and he hasn't given you a meaningful start when you needed it most and they're still going to be positioned to need it most next week is the biggest week of the season because as Jared points out you play the guardians that will be in Cleveland and you're not going to be in the comfort

36:36of the rate where you are tonight with the pirates in town another series you need to win Brewstead the math and I think the White Sucks could essentially play 500 baseball still feel pretty good about their chances of winning the division I feel very good about their chances winning the division 19 left three game lead and the wildcard math you can do but the wild cards crazy because the Guardians White Sucks and Blue Jays two of those three teams are going to make the playoffs one will not Blue Jays could be dangerous coming in hot I hope the Guardians get left out don't like Cleveland I mean I like the city I'm not Joaquin Noah I would go on vacation there you would yeah why not was so good about Cleveland I like Cleveland Cleveland I did Joaquin by the way yeah there's a great story about Joaquin going back to Cleveland by Joel Lorenzi in the athletic that a couple weeks ago go back and check that out but nonetheless I digress socks are going to be ready for the next challenge the White Sucks have a bullpen that is I dare I say I'm going to use the verb they're going to unleash it in the playoffs provided they get there they're going to unleash Hagen Smith on the rest of the American League he is lights out good since he has been brought up in this role he they've got Grant Taylor who is lights out they've got a bullpen with weapons so the starting pitching I'm kind of coming around on that yet

38:04that you'd like it to be better it needs to be better but you get into the bullpen these openers not such a bad idea or way to go for the socks I do believe that they're going to hit and I think that they are going to take two of three from pirates Oh boy good question that is the voice of Dave one step seven twenty five this morning game week began for the Bears on the practice field Monday up at Hallis Hall and with the Panthers now five days away in the season opener when was the last time the expectations for a season were this big and what makes this team better equipped to handle them than past versions of Bears teams or are they I think that they are they're on their way to what I believe we'll talk about a predictions later but they let's set the bar 10 wins this is a team that can win 10 games and you start there and some people will go higher and maybe go lower but Ben Johnson is the reason and the answer to every question about the Bears what about the defense of light Ben Johnson but what about the second Daryl Ben Johnson what about the parents rush Ben Johnson you believe in the Bears because you have a head coach that gives you confidence that he's going to get the most out of a quarterback who can be an MVP candidate because of Ben Johnson so that's the reason I think these expectations which this is the reason for the question

39:23Jerry you will remember this 2006 the Bears go to Super Bowl they come back in 2007 they fired Ron Rivera because lovey Smith got a little I believe drunk with power and you can make that argument that that that this team kind of fed off that they weren't ready they had injuries and then they fell apart that those expectations were sky high for the team that got to the Super Bowl and lost 2019 they were celebrating the hundred whatever you bear in aversary and Mitch Trubisky was appearing with Jim McMahon and it was going to be the future and Matt Nagy was going to be the guy that brought all the plays and didn't remember the Santa Slay and all those things and then it fell apart because he didn't know how to handle success Ben Johnson knows how to handle success the Bears are going to be fine in that regard the expectations are outsized and enormous and probably bigger than they have been ever just because the nature of media these days but I do think that won't be the issue if they run into problems

40:24there'd be other things injuries that you can't control but it won't be because they got full of themselves It's game week baby it feels great you know we're going to get that injury report tomorrow we're going to hear from Ben Johnson today we heard for some rookies yesterday the running backs were back out on the practice field the new normal Rome a dunes a what I couldn't believe and I didn't hear this live but I heard it when I got here this morning a little bit ahead of you guys our gave remeres predicting yeah that the bears are going to drop the first game of the season to Panthers because they're a little too puffy chested they're feeling a little too confident and you're always going to lose a game you're supposed to win and you're going to win a game you're supposed to lose and he's putting that in that category and shame on you gave remeres that's not how I wanted to start game week was here in gave remeres who says big of a meatball bears fan as I am saying that he's predicting game one is going to the Panthers because the bears are a little bit too

41:29puffy chested David I agree with you when you talk about a negative but there's been Johnson but there's been Johnson but there's been Johnson yeah I'm going to go with that what go 18 going into 19 there was just that that feeling of this team has something special and it was Matt Nagy and Mitchell Trebuski I think this time there's just no room for air for this ball club because I think the expectations are sky high and rightfully so but I'm going to agree with both of you both you guys it comes down to the Ben Johnson effect you actually have a coach that you can trust that is going to make the right decisions put his team in situations to be successful but I'm going to add on it's not just because I believe in Ben we trust I think it also has to do with the quarterback as well you finally that's the difference between between back then with Trebuski and and had

42:31you to where we are now is that you have a a quarterback that is going into a second year with his head coach what he's learned throughout the offseason to kind of correct some of the issues that he had and a lot of the issues were were the easy stuff it was taking what the defense is giving you let's just check it down dudes open you know what live the fight another day I think those little tiny things because the great things spectacular things of winning when your team is down and finding ways to be able to put the Cape on we know he can do that it's the easy things which I think is he is going to make more evident and we're going to see is going to be more probably in this this year with with with Caleb Williams so there often says good enough with the skill position players to be able to make it happen to me it comes down to being a little bit too puppy chested a schedule that is a lot harder than it was last year and Dave said David said it becomes down to injuries that we just can't see in the future right now that could definitely derail this thing but I

43:39haven't been this excited in a long time and I hope bears fans are as well. Different question on a different topics that is the voice of Mike Floreo he's going to wake up in Seattle for us this morning as a game one of the NFL season over on NBC is Wednesday night a rematch of the big game from last year and former bears fullback Matsui as reliable in life as he was on the field passed away on Sunday at the age of 68 meant so much just so many lists that starts with our very own Jared Peyton whose dad was one of Matt's best friends and teammates what would Matt Sui want to be remembered the most. Probably for the person that he was because it wasn't about the football wasn't about the stats wasn't about winning a Super Bowl it was about every time that he was around people he made people feel happy made people smile and I just think the the man that he was is what speaks volumes to all the stuff that he accomplished I believe in my heart he was more

44:42accomplished off the field than what he did in business than he did in football right I mean he was he was amazing when it came to business and the football was just kind of a byproduct of that but the man that he he was is how he wanted to be probably remembered and I told David this yesterday the amount of times that I called him and we talked he would always tell me that he was proud of me every single phone call he would tell me that he was proud of me and that he knew that my dad was proud of me but the way his connection with my dad and thinking about how he left him in charge knowing that every single situation in every every decision made he made it as if my dad was here and what would your dad want and I think that's what makes their bond special he will be remembered as as one of my favorites on the field but as an uncle now I was I'm glad that I had the time especially after my dad passed to be able to spend with him he was amazing well

45:44obviously Jared knows way more about the part about how he would want to remember the most so I'm going to go with that that that's you nailed it obviously you you know I do not know but when I woke up to this story first I thought that I was kind of out of it still from my adville PM and I wasn't quite I'm like what huh no no I can't be reading keep you reading what I'm reading correctly I then did think immediately the first image in my mind was Jared you brought it up earlier was your dad joking with him pulling the shorts down the black and white the black and white picture that's very famous to you know bears fans also flashback to Super Bowl him scoring the touchdown with the unconventional kind of like paper towel neck roll that he had the you know you know he had that he had that he he had a neck roll on that a kid from York or Lagrange Park or Timothy you know whatever like he he had he just no no no flash right like he just that that was what he was comfortable with right and I think he I think he

46:47felt an unbelievable connection like oh my gosh I am helping the greatest running back in the history of the NFL rush for all these yards and kind of wore it with a badge of honor and that's how I'll I'll personally remember I didn't know him off the field at all so well said by you but those were the images that went through my mind and it's just sad scary that we continue to lose members of that 85 bears team yeah it is I had a privilege of interviewing him a handful of times but knowing him through what Jared has talked about and I just believe somebody like that how humble he was would want to be remembered for being as dependable as he was to everybody as reliable as he became to everybody is indispensable to some people's lives who now are feeling lost without him is interesting you know just dynamic you have somebody who was known best in Chicago was being the compliment complimentary player the ultimate sidekick to Walter Peyton when the

47:50greatest ever and yet I think in his life he's not was probably known more as for his leadership and being the guy that led the way whether it was through difficult circumstances personally or in business or on the field that this this complimentary player was somebody that you wanted to follow if you will and that the baited the great maybe irony that he was or maybe this was fitting he was the full back who led the way and then off the field he would do the same so I just think everybody wants to have a legacy where they become somebody that they others can rely on them whether it's in business whether it's in sports or whether it's in life just your family or your friends and Matsui can rest in peace that he is one of those guys that leaves a legacy behind where people knew that they could depend on him whenever they needed to so condolences to your family and all the bears fans out there and Matsui gone too soon at the age of 68 when we come back the pick six continues did you see the white sucks renderings of

48:53the future ballpark in the south loop we'll talk about it next and what it all means Chicago sports radio time paid 104 three the score welcome back to pick six with high and painting on 104 three the score I'm not going to take any any questions just in ishpia made a big news Saturday morning by releasing renderings of a proposed new ballpark called the rail yards and the south loop opposite the 78 where the Chicago fire are building a stadium of their own proposal the news broken by crane Chicago has received pushback by residents and politicians in the bridge port neighborhood how feasible does this all look and is this good or bad timing for such an announcement well I think that it's the timing is the timing and just in ishpia is entering the chat and this was a surprise because of that because of his quasi ownership minority ownership his involvement is vague it's unclear how much he's

49:54involved in day-to-day discussions but this is something that was and is happening you you look at what they're what they're looking at right now the renderings will look great by anybody's definition because that's what you can do with AI now how realistic is it you can't you any conversation about this has to start with what's going on in bridge port because the people in that neighborhood the people in that proximity to the ballpark have been loyal and those feelings can't be just dismissed or set aside the alderman for the eleventh ward Nicole Lee issued a statement and county commissioner john daily they represent bridge port they had a joint statement who called this movie betrayal to socks fans who have supported the team in that neighborhood for so long generations going way back so that's to be taken into consideration and you don't want to overlook

50:59that at the same time there's the reality of professional sports that this would seem to be acknowledging just in ishpia pouring all this money into the patch of land across the river and across from the Chicago fire stadium in a 48 acre site of amtrak's 14th street coachyard the rail yards if you will a lot of this hinges on the ability of amtrak to relocate to bridge port and then the stadium and this could be years away but 2029 the lease is up this is moving fast it would seem i do wonder who breaks ground first the white socks or the bears at the pace of this but this to me does represent the uncomfortable reality that this is progress because you have to if you want to be keeping up with teams of major league baseball this is part of that for the white socks to modernize their approach and if just an ishpia is behind it and bank and bank rolling

52:03this then certainly this is a sign of the times the new times for the white socks so it was jarring to see those renderings because they were so like wow i opening but the next part of this story might be a little messier so let's stay tuned i think the timing is perfect the socks are in first place by three games this is exactly when you want to capitalize on feel good white socks news you're just you're just doubling down on the fact that it's September the 8th and your team is ticketed right now to be playing postseason ball um now i will say there has been really nice walk up crowds this year at the rate the fans are coming they're winning and fans are are definitely coming i don't know that you're turning your back on bridge port i think that's probably a little extreme i don't live in bridge port i might not understand it the way others wood i don't see the negatives to this if you shutter the stadium you are walking away from bridge port essentially

53:08if we were always are going to change i mean how big of a in a day like a game day impact helps bridge port i don't know the answer to that question specifically as an example but there's an identity that's intertwined with with bridge port in the white socks i think you have to acknowledge that it's like taking with taking wriggly out of Clark and add away from Clark and Addison i mean that's this is maybe i just don't feel that i don't i don't know it enough i just i'd love to listen yeah you know bridge port residents die hard white socks fans that that's the this this is this is similar this is similar say i like to say same church different pew as you know bears moving from soldier field to Arlington Heights or northwest india every bearish fans got a thought on it what are white socks fans lots on this i i love the renderings anytime that you can jump on a i and give me some renderings of what a new stadium looks

54:10like kind of used to that with uh what's going on with bear situation always always looks pretty but there is something to say here where what david was talking about with Nicole Lee and also john daily talking about the betrayal to you know the eleventh ward and they kind of are drawing a line in the sand of like seeing where they stand and how they feel about this i think the i there is an identity when it comes to bridge port in the white socks that that that community is is driven by the south side and and what that team means to them and so timing i can understand it should be a can do whatever he wants to do it's the the timing that's what he wants and but also as well the timing for me i don't like to talk about these things when games are going on because i feel like sometimes it overshadows what we're all here for and i think for to see the white socks in first place in ale central that should be the main focus

55:16but also timing though for south side fans and bridge port that are upset about this it this is it's a big deal but i think when you have how long this is going to take and we're all excited about the renderings there's still a process that has to go through to be able to get this thing to actually uh shovels in the ground i got a lot of questions about him this off season that's the voice of p c a and he became the first couple left handers since billy williams 1970 to hit 40 home runs over on the left side of the plate you know has 35 stolen bases after two more uh over the weekend there's also a post going viral pointing out the pca has 22 more home runs and 49 more stolen bases than ken griffy jr did through four hundred and thirty eight mlb appearances is ken griffy jr the new comp for pca is that crazy fair what are we watching here i'm a ken griffy guy so it's it this is

56:22this is right i guess yes i think it's fair i guess when you're looking at the comp just by when you look at both guys right both left handed hitters both just fluid swings i mean i'm always going to go with griffy's just because i mean his could be put on to like a as a logo for something if that's what you really want it because it's so sweet but both both guys are amazing defenders both playing center field out in the outfield i i i i look at the games of both guys and early on if you can if you compare the first four years to from griffy to pca and what pca is done especially i look at the stolen bases to me that's there the speed has always has always been there it hasn't been something that needs to be seen over time i think when you it's a little ambitious though to start looking at somebody and have a hard time when a guy is as many home runs as griffy does and as many all star appearances as he does to kind of compare another guy to him but i think that's the

57:27it is a comp and it sounds like from listening to pca that they he's had conversations with can't griffy about all about the swing in in the game and so the last last year i think they started that friendship yeah that friendship so the fact that they have that friendship says something but i think uh over time you still have to do it for a long period of time and that's what we haven't seen but i think pca is on the right path as right now to doing something special and what we're seeing Dustin it's much watch tv i haven't i haven't been this excited to watch and at bat from someone in the city i think the only thing closest to that was when devin has to was back there and punt punt and kickoff returns where it was like oh i might need to go to bathroom no i'm gonna sit here and watch to see what devin has to does that's how i feel about every a b a pca that's a great that's a great cup it is sit up in your seat it is turn the radio

58:27up a little louder it is reach into your pocket pull out the app and put the volume up a little bit more it is much watch tv and then once he gets on base yesterday gets hit by a pitch right and then but it's same thing i'm sitting up a little straighter in my seat watching to see is this is he gonna steal a base is he gonna try if he gets second is he gonna steal third right like you're just you're you cannot you can't get away from now when we get to the griffy stuff that's an amazing it's an amazing cop through 438 games that that that that he's doing better than him now he's also older it's more mature right than griffy griffy came in what 18 19 years old is playing with his dad right okay so that's part of this a little bit i think the key to all of this and these numbers are so much fun and and there's a you know we could spend an hour going over all the different things can he repeat it can you do not the same but can you know can you keep the high

59:30standard for multiple years that's gonna be the next thing everybody's got a year in them right how many guys hit 50 50 home runs all of a sudden Brady Anderson yeah you're not Brady Anderson no no just saying that you gotta do it again it's this is fantastic but you gotta do it again that's what makes it so hard i get it i know it's fun to enjoy i don't think the can griffy junior cop those numbers did surprise me but that's also a mouthful when you say that he's on that track that's a hall of fame track yeah is that where is that where he's headed this is as far as i'd be willing to go now and i love everything pca's doing and you could see him almost he stole those bases so easily yesterday he got the jump and he was off you know he's gonna get 40 40 you know he's gonna do that yesterday was the seventh time this year where he had at least a home run and one stolen base in the same game that's a cup record

1:00:31the other guy he's tied for it now 1991 Ryan Sandberg is the other guy going back to 1898 that's a lot of great company to keep Ryan Sandberg can griffy junior these are the hall of famous we're comparing this kid to and he is a kid it's 24 what are we watching here it's greatness that's what we're watching here and i think we need to be go more than that might be a little premature uh but i i just think you want him to stay healthy you want him to continue this trek but i also think we're watching and we're seeing one of the biggest bargains in baseball he's locked up for six years at less than 20 million a year six year hundred fifty million dollar extension jet hoiers of genius he got pca to sign that contract and he moved to Chicago his parents are here he could not be happier the only people happening in pca right now cup fans because he's gonna be here for a very long time all right we come back we got it the extra point what will you remember most from this weekend of college football get into it next on

1:01:36hot paint and Chicago sports radio one of four three the score in with the extra point painting it's time for the extra point with hot and pain come out for the extra point on 104 three the score set up this extra point on a wild first weekend of college football what will you remember the most hmm i'm gonna need a second here you don't i'm gonna get it from michigan because they're giving out seconds free seconds seconds that they don't deserve yeah that was one second that will last a lifetime in the memories of those western michigan players that deserved better that was a travesty travesty that they put seconds back a second back on the clock gave michigan another chance to to beat western michigan that outplayed them the entire game in the big house it was the big upset they should have won they didn't the big ten need to get sacked if did anybody else know that that the clocks were different i've been watching college football a

1:02:37long time i have been studying college football a long time i love college football i didn't know that we were watching two different clocks all the time so that was what stood out you had no to name beating with constant they look good on defense you had ls u with clain kiffon making a mockery of everything they beat dabbo swinging and that's that's fine he can enjoy it now i hope somebody beats lane kiffon 51 to six or whatever this this year and also you had last night an odd game with florida state uh and the power going out against sm u and sm u winning so it was there was a lot of stuff going on but i think the most indelible impression was left by western michigan beating michigan and not being allowed to win that game because of the rough intervention imagine if we had pro players i am he david it's obvious michigan it's western michigan but i mean that's a close second and i'm still debating internally whether i love that or i hated that i still can't decide and then the fact that he made dabbo and the tigers sit longer he he

1:03:45postponed it even more he made them wait because he knows how bad the visitors locker room is and how uncomfortable it is there was a randelaid there was a weather issue there and he extended it and made them sit and rot in a miserable visitors dressing room oh i'm i'm gonna go with i mean i could start with my with my canes but i'm not gonna do that but that was a big one it was there for it i'm it's great to get a you know get off on the right foot i'm cool with that i have to go with you david it comes down to it that game i don't know who's probably more upset western michigan fans or my wife with watching the game she was just like are you kidding me and i'm like you i did not know there's two different clocks i've been watching college football all my life and play you and i we played it like what is going on here the fact that you get an opportunity to get another Steve on a hail Mary if rolls over first this western michigan get that no they get that opportunity

1:04:54no not not in that arbor no they don't because the people are running on the field and celebrating after i love that sign welcome to an arbor set your clocks back one second 27 and a half point favorites are you kidding me shout out to western michigan though they played their tails off other than that it length kiffin is the story that's who i'm going to be watching all college football because this dude throws shade at halftime talks trash when he wants to yes his his uh this this halftime speech got leaked i mean this is he is must watch tv and what they did that ls you team looks phenomenal they they they are a good football team they will get better as the year goes on but there's something cooking in that in ruse so definitely looking at that and i think the uh the all all burn in baler game the two points uh tried that was stuffed that was huge that was huge too there's also something cooking at house hall it's game week let's go it is game week here at the

1:05:56score what do you think about the bear's ability to handle expectations how much confidence do you have in their season opening game against the panthers and maybe you want to pay tribute to mat sui who left the far too soon 68 years old pasting away on saturday on sunday former bears full back and friend of walter pay and let us know we're going to open up the phone lines 312 644 67 67 we're talking bears when we come back it's on pay in Chicago sports radio 104 3 the score