January 6, Five Years Later

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1:02and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. All right. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. It's January 6th. Fifth anniversary of the fifth anniversary of the new Pearl Harbor. Yes. The greatest attack on our democracy. Well, it was a great attack on patriots that largely did nothing wrong. Most of whom were attacked. Should have probably just been. We did the greatest manhunt. We did the greatest manhunt in American history. For what could have been settled with a mere trespassing charge. And actually on that note, we here at the Charlie Kirk show are going to pay tribute to some of these patriots who are in Washington DC marching to raise awareness of injustices that are still unaccounted for. And to help us do that is Ben Berkwam, Real America's voice national correspondent and host of Lawn Border on Real America's voice. Ben, welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. Tell us what you're doing on the ground.

2:07And what, yeah, there you are, walking backwards. Beautiful sight. Ben, tell us what's going on in DC. Let me just give you the lay of the land. So five years ago today, I was freezing on the ellipse. The ellipse is right over here. We've got the White House right off to my left. We've got the Washington monument off to our right. This entire area five years ago was packed full of patriotic Americans who loved this country. Who wanted one simple thing was the truth about the 2020 elections that the majority, at least MAGA, know was stolen. And so they came to peacefully assemble. President Trump said peacefully March. And we went down and we saw what happened that day. One thing, Andrew. And as we're getting up here, we're going to get to some of the folks that are going to be marching. There's over 200 January sixers that are here. God bless you guys. You should be thankful you live in a free country. God bless President Trump, huh? Good for you, Ben. But this is the, you look at what happened, the injustice that happened to these guys. And you compare that to where we're at now in our country.

3:09And the bottom line is the message is very simple. We've started it. Thank God President Trump won the election. Thank God he made the pardons. But until the people that orchestrated the real coup against President Trump, the four years of a coup against President Trump, the insurrection against President Trump, all of the Russia collusion hoax, all of that nonsense, the impeachments, everything else. Until they're held accountable, the deep states held accountable, the American people aren't going to rest. And so that's what we're here today. We're going to be talking to some of those 200 January sixers and helping, you know, get their stories out. Some of them still struggling. Many of them not here today committed suicide. And so it's just, you know, it's a bittersweet day. But thank God they're out. Yeah, Ben, two points on this. One is people don't really know this part of the story behind the pardons of the J sixers. But when that was getting debated during the transition, actually Charlie was in the room and spoke up very vociferously on their behalf and said pardon them all, pardon them all.

4:10And that's ultimately what President Trump did. So I want people to know that piece of the story. And I remember when he told me about that. And I said good for you. Yeah, second piece here, Ben, for the audience, please, you know, you talk about the personal stories. I mean, a lot of these people should have, if anything, right, they should have been maybe a trespassing charge. Instead, there was this manhunt across the country, homes were rated, families disrupted, pregnant wives left without their husbands. And then they were placed in, you know, these jail cells, the gulag inside of DC, tell us more about some of the personal stories from these J six political prisoners that you have heard on the ground. Well, first of your first point about Charlie and America misses Charlie every single day. Charlie was the so instrumental in not just getting President Trump elected. But really this, this maggot genesis in the next generation and Gen Z and the next generation. But the seeds that Charlie planted were seeing the fruits of those. And I pray we continue to see the fruits of those every day. And to your point, what Charlie said is the only way it could have happened.

5:14Because to parse through every single one of these, I think of my friend, Koi Griffin, who was there that day, never went inside the building. He's cowboys for Trump. He went up there at a megaphone and simply went up on the steps to pray over the crowd. He got on a megaphone, prayed over the crowd, and then he left. He got stuck in solitary confinement for two weeks. He wasn't able to see an attorney. He wasn't able to call a family member, slept on a cold floor for praying on a megaphone. And their story after story after story like that, as you mentioned, trespassing. That's the worst that some people did. Not even knowing they were trespassing. When it was, it was offense basically like this. It was green. This is metal. It was plastic that was taken down within minutes before I even arrived. We marched from this location down to the house. When I got there, there were no fences up. You had no idea that there was any barricade that anyone had crossed through. A lot of people entered that space, not even realizing that they were breaking the law going into a place. Now obviously we saw some of the violence. We saw the attacks. The question is how much of that was instigated. We're only getting the tip of the iceberg on how involved the federal government was.

6:21How many FBI agents were there? Which ones of those actually instigated anything? How many Antifa and BLM members were there? We know John Sullivan. We know many other BLM and Antifa were there to instigate violence. But the bottom line is we don't know. We still know less than we know. There's a lot we don't know. And the question is, will we ever get to the bottom of it? But to the stories, it's just crazy. I mean, they weren't given Shane Jenkins. Big dude, big burly guy. You look at him. You think, man, that's a tough guy. When he talks about just sitting in that cell, he was in there for over a thousand days. There were months that he went where he couldn't brush his teeth. He couldn't clip his nails. He couldn't know haircuts. I mean, little simple things like that, but just treated like animals. And you compare the way that January sixors were treated compared to BLM and Antifa who were burning down our country for four years, who were actually trying to destroy our country from within. Who professed that? They want to destroy America. They want to remake it and their anarchist communist vision.

7:22When we're talking about January sixors, we're talking about patriots that love this country that want to restore the values of this nation. So huge difference between the people that were arrested and the way they were treated from all of the real insurrectionists that got away with it. Most of the guys in BLM that were burning down their cities never even got charged. Most of Antifa never even got charged. When you look at it, it's the two tears of justice. And a lot of those BLM writers got settlements from the cities that they that they help burn down. So crazy. So that's so crazy. When you talk about an Arco tyranny, it's the law binding people that try and do things the right way that the regime will target and harass. And it's the writers, the lawbreakers, the criminals, the illegal immigrants that get free pass, they get money, get subsidies. And then they get settlements from blue states and blue cities. So it's an interesting story. You can throw this up to two twelve reporting from Paul Sparry. New records show US Capitol police captain Michael Bird, who fatally shot unarmed J6 protestor Ashley Bavitt without warning.

8:25Has been running an unaccredited daycare center with wife Kaleska from their Maryland homes in 2008. Maryland has received over 190 million dollars in HHS daycare funds. Well, if it's unaccredited with is the idea that they're not a right. Apparently, I don't think I'm ever going to get mad at someone for running an untrieded. Questions emerged. You can throw up to two to eleven. It's just funny how these different story lines been seemed to overlap. So this is from town hall on January six questions emerge about Michael Bird's taxpayer funded Maryland daycare. That's out of town hall. So well think about it's just it's just one of those funny funny overlaps. Yeah, think about the way Michael Bird was treated while BLM was raging across America. He shoots without warning, as you mentioned, an unarmed civilian who a veteran of our country who was simply there. You know, again, wanting answers to a stolen election shoots and kills her.

9:25No accountability. In fact, he gets promoted and you look at how officers were treated. Obviously, George Floyd and and Chauvin and that whole charade, how they were treated. But the difference between the left and the activist response to it. Bird became a hero to the left for murdering Ashley Babitt while other cops who actually were doing their jobs against real criminals were demonized in ostracides and lost their jobs many times. It is it's again, it all goes back to that double standard. But then you also compare that now to what we're finally finding out. I mean, how did it take this long? Yeah, to get some answers. Shout out to Nick Shirley and the work he did, but to get some answers on this fraud and shout out to Doge. The only real reason that we have most of these all of this fraud information about all these fake daycare is because of Doge. I got a rap band, but give our love to Mickey Ashley's mom. I saw that she's there with you. God bless you, sir. Thanks for putting a spotlight on this important story. God bless you guys. Talk to you soon.

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11:36Very proud of the Real America's voice team being on the ground with Ben Berkwon, put in the resource on the ground to highlight some of the stories of, and listen, whatever you think about January 6th, whatever you think about it, because, yeah, we shouldn't have been, you know, going inside a capital, but I remember, by the way, I remember doing that show live that morning with Charlie from Phoenix and being like, please get out, please get out, because we knew what they were going to do, they were going to use this against us. It was so obviously bad. It was so, yes, but regardless of what, you know, what you think about the particulars on that day, these were a lot of really amazing patriots that got caught up in a dragnet and a manhunt, as you said in the first segment, that should have been reserved for the likes of Nicholas Maduro. The way that they came in, guns ablazing, raiding these people's homes was an absolute travesty and a miscarriage of justice. And I'm glad that we're celebrating their stories, because so many of these people had their lives absolutely ruined for basically a trespassing charge.

12:38All right, moving on to our next story here. This story made me think of you, Blake, and that's why we put it on the run down here. And that is, the New York Times has come out with a whole piece about why Trump and the Trump administration has soured on Machado. Machado is the, Maria Corina Machado, Garina Machado. It's like the old SNL bit. So Venezuela. And so there was rumors going around that Trump had lost faith in her, because she didn't deny the Nobel Peace Prize. And so we should give it. We supply some context to this. So give us the context. Uh, Machado was the candidate in the most recent Venice way. It was, or she, no they, they, they, they, they evict her. She was going to be the candidate. She couldn't run. She couldn't run. So she had sort of a proxy. So yes. Exactly. Her location, apparently, is unknown right now. Yes. She's been under threat for a long time. And then the other guy was in, I think he fled the country for Spain. Yes. That's correct. So but she was the opposition leader. So she was a common figurehead for the Venezuelan opposition.

13:38and then right after they abducted Maduro, it seemed plausible that they would say, okay, install the opposition leader because we'd been endorsing the Venezuelan opposition. We said they actually got the election. And she got the Nobel Peace Prize. It was not so. It was so. And then she won the Nobel Peace Prize back in October instead of Trump. And Trump was just very publicly campaigning for that award in an interesting way. And they awarded it to her instead. She actually did, even the day she received it, she dedicated it to Trump. Yes, but apparently they believed she should have also refused it. Now this was a rumor, it's unsubstantiated. But you, it was stated, it was reported by the Washington Post. So they, well, we know never lies about anything. The Washington Post has such as in the wild. So the rumor has been going around that Trump soured on Machado because she didn't just decline the award and offer it to Trump. I thought that that sounded silly. Okay, so there's a big piece in the New York Times that is detailing

14:39why the Trump administration decided not to back Marina, Maria, Karina, Machado as Maduro's replacement. And it has nothing to do with her winning the Nobel Peace Prize. So I don't know if you want to take this or if you... Yeah, sure, well, what's probably most interesting about it is it seems, honestly, the first bullet point that of it is the most interesting, which is apparently Marco Rubio talked President Trump out of doing it. He said, I'll quote from Ryan Svedra's summary. If the United States tried to back the opposition, it could further destabilize the country and require a more robust military presence inside of it and a classified CA intelligence analysis reflected that view. They were also frustrated that they believed her assessments of the situation in Venezuela were inaccurate that she underestimated Maduro's strength that they were skeptical of her ability to seize power. Apparently, Rick Grinnell would go and have meetings

15:42and he was just very annoyed with her. Yeah, when he tried to have an in-person meeting, the US tried to guarantee her security and apparently she refused to do that or it somehow didn't materialize despite those promises and those assurances of security. But also, they asked for a list of political prisoners. Apparently, that didn't happen. Over time, the relationship deteriorated to according to people briefed on the interactions. Machado and her team ignored the request for a list of political prisoners. So there was also this issue that Machado had been taking a pretty forceful stance asking for more sanctions against Maduro-backed businesses and products. The whole thing is she does that alienated her from the business class. Well, she comes off as just generally being very uncompromising. So it has like, for example, Machado was upset that Rick Grinnell did not denounce Maduro as illegitimate when Grinnell believed that that would undercut any diplomatic thing. They were still, just remember, no negotiations with Maduro's government.

16:43They were still trying to have a conversation, right? So we were open to a negotiated exit from Maduro and she seemed to kind of have the attitude of Maduro just has to quit. And so it just seems they got very fed up with her, which is a very good adventure in third world politics, I suppose. It sounds like she basically, there's reason to believe that she had alienated many members of Venezuela as sort of a leap, right? The business class, the civil society. Our position is that she's the valid opposition leader and that her proxy won the election. So you believe in elections or you don't as well. And I think the opening point is one of the most interesting, which is Rubio arguing if we back the opposition, it could destabilize the country. Reading between the lines there, that kind of suggests there's more support for the regime. So 70, 30 might have otherwise thought. But I mean, even if it's 70, 30, you don't want to inflame the 30. I mean, that's a landslide by any measure, but you want to bring the entire country together as much as possible. So you want to, instead of picking favorites, picking sides, you want to establish a transition

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18:46That's 833-850-2229 or click on the pre-born banner at charliekirk.com today. That was the game plan. Open up the borders, flood blue states with more people who'd be counting the census. That gives them more members of Congress, make them more dependent on the government, that grows government, that gives them greater power. Again, that is what the Democrat party is all about, power. Again, the shutdown wasn't about literally the enhanced subsidies about making sure that President Trump has no success. They want, they're happy to take anybody hostage, whatever collateral damage, bad economy so that they can win in November and retain power. Democrats want power, they want to rule over the ashes and they don't care how to get it. That was the point made by the great Senator Ron Johnson from the state of Wisconsin. He joins us now, Senator. Welcome back to the show. It's great to see you. I happen to be on that same show coming on after you and I was watching the program. You were with Charlie Hurd.

19:47I was on a few segments later. And I was watching you going like he's absolutely right. And I texted your team. I was like, I got to get him on to talk about this because what we're seeing in so many of these blue states and with the Somali fraud ring is you see that the tentacles of flooding the world with third worlders and illegal immigrants and we're seeing now that this is not just fraud. This could have voting implications. You mentioned the census, maybe build out that point of what this scheme for power was really all about. Well, happy new year, guys. Yeah, happy new. My concern about what's been uncovered in Minnesota with the Somali child care fraud and Medicaid fraud, that type of thing is that people say, OK, we found it. That's the problem. It's literally just the tip of the iceberg. These programs have been designed to be abused, to be difficult to really investigate and convict people based on fraud. But the bottom line, Democrats have always just sought power.

20:50To conserve is it makes no sense. I mean, I've got enough dealing with my own life and why don't want to control somebody else's life. But that's what Democrats want to do. They want to grow government so they can have the power to control the people's lives. And in order to grow government, they create all these programs that people sign up for. They daisy chain them. So you sign up for one. You qualify for another or another or another. They open the borders during Obama and then again during Biden to allow people to flood in this country. Very few people really understand that even illegal immigrants get counted in the census. So when you count in the census, then they basically reapportion the congressional seats. Those states, the sanctuary states, that encourage the illegal immigrants to flood their states, they get more members of Congress. That means they've got more votes. And when you've got Congresses evenly divided as we are, one, two seats may make the difference between having Democrats in total control government,

21:51like they were when they passed Obama care to carry out some other massive communist and socialist type of program that, as we're seeing with Obama care, is utterly failed. But it was designed to fail. So again, that's the whole point. All these programs are designed to grow government, to make more people dependent on government. So they've got the power that people are dependent on voting them back into office. It's sick to conservative. It makes no sense whatsoever. But that's exactly what Democrats are. That's what they're all about. Yeah. Well, I couldn't help but hear that you were echoing some of the sentiments from the great Steven Miller play cut 210. This was not a loophole. The Biden administration, Secretary of Homeland Security, Alejandro Mayorkas, devised a scheme to fly illegal aliens into the country and then to escort them in mass across the border by the millions. And to give them something known as parole, which gives them a work permit, which gives them a social security number, which gives them access to the voting booth.

22:51This was the plan all along, to get them here illegally so they can get free government benefits, get hooked to welfare, and be able to participate in American elections. And one more clip here for you, Senator. This is from Nick Shirley and David. We had Nick Shirley on the show. We don't know David's last name, but he's a patriot in Minnesota that helped uncover this massive viral story. And now they're talking about how these Somali immigrants are engaging potentially. I mean, I think it's fairly certain in voter fraud. Play cut 219. And they're all Somali. You're talking probably 100,000 or more people. And they're all living rent free. They're driving a vehicle that you paid for. They're eating food that you paid for. Everything they do is something you paid for. And for instance, that entire block will then go and vote for a specific candidate. They'll have one person go there and collect all the ballots. And nobody tracks.

23:52They could say they have nine people living in an apartment. They're going to send them nine ballots. And then they have someone who comes along, collects all the ballots. So the scheme, the jig is up here. Even when it's not that bad, I remember accounts so a lot of them don't speak English. So if you can't speak English, you're allowed to have an interpreter in the booth. And there's tons of accounts where you bring in everyone all at once and they have the same guy going like, that's our guy, that's our guy, that's our guy, that's our guy. Yeah, really, really making, you know, really displaying the sanctity of the secret ballot here. Yeah, so exactly. I mean, it seems like the jig is up. We pay these people to come here. We settle them. We give them free money. They loot the system, commit fraud, and then they vote Democrat. The question is, what do you do about it now, Senator? Well, the problem is you've got about half the country that votes Democrat and they have no problem with this. They also want to get their guys and gals into office. So they just look the other way. My concern about only focusing on what's happening in Minnesota.

24:52And I'm happy to do that. We have to use that as a springboard to investigate all the fraud. Is, you know, I'm old with you guys. I live through the development of the, you know, the big state, the war on poverty, which is utterly failed. But what it did do is a grew government. Back then, when I grew up, you know, my dad worked, my mom stayed at home. We weren't very wealthy, but we had a great life, you know. Parents of faith, they loved their kids, you know, supportive homes, but that was the norm. You didn't need to earn her families. Nowadays, you can't really survive that way. And what's really tragic is that the individuals that do work their tail off, you know, make in 70, 80, 90,000 bucks a year in a place like Wisconsin, paying taxes, carrying the load for the people who then do videos on social media, taunting the hard workers, saying, look, all these benefits I'm getting. Now, take a look at how much money I've got on my EBT card. Thank you for funding my lifestyle.

25:54It is, it is just galling. And take a look at some of the work by people like Senator Phil Graham that talks about, on average, people in the well, you know, benefiting from the wealth fair estate, not get down about $57,000 a year tax-free benefits. Considering the depth, they don't have to work, which is why we've got about 20% of the adult male work of population out of the workforce permanently. Because they don't have to, we pay them not to work. We now pay for their health care. And the Medicaid expansion, the Obamacare expansion and Medicaid is crowding out this able children from providers because it's more lucrative to get reimbursed, $9 to $1 for a single adult. So again, this has been designed, Obamacare was designed to make people dependent on government for the health care. So it could be abused, you know, provider tax. I mean, I could go on and on and on. This is by design. This is exactly the Democrat Party set out to do, and it's worked marvelously well for them. It's terrible for America. So is the issue Senator in this block grant,

26:57the way it's sort of like the federal government's giving money to a state like Minnesota, or Wisconsin, or wherever, Ohio, and then the state is then entrusted with policing the system. So it, but if you get a state like Minnesota where the Democrat politicians are incentivized, especially with a community that votes and blocks like the Somali community, they're incentivized to then turn the other cheek. They're to turn a, to turn a blind eye to the fraud right in front of them. Is that the problem with the system or is it run deeper than that? The overall problem is just the mass amount of money we spend. Now, GAO issues an improper payment report since 2003. Since that point in time, they've, they've logged about $2.8 trillion of improper payments. Now, that's a very imprecise term. That also surprises the tip of the iceberg. So yeah, I mean, the federal government is the easiest entity to fleece. And so it gets fleeced all the time. And I keep pointing out, you know, the Somalis, they're relatively new to this country, that they're amateurs relative to the, the,

28:00interest, you know, the military industrial complex. Now, I can tell you story after a story of, of small businesses who create a product for the defense industry, you know, sold it at pennies on the dollar versus what the, the big contractor bought them and then started charging the defense department for. So again, we get fleeced across the board on every, in every program of government. So the solution is you have to reduce the size scope and cost government, but that's not the path we're on. And regrettably, you know, I was one of the, the big holdouts on, on the reconciliation bill, because I was imploring, I was begging the administration of my colleagues, you guys, we have to return to a reasonable pre-pandemic global spending. This is absurd, we went from $4.4 trillion to over $7 trillion, we have to return to a reasonable baseline. But, you know, doing those types of spending reductions, that kind of constraint, it's not politically popular. It's often said here in Washington, you see, show me a member of Congress who have a loss because they spent too much money.

29:00You can't. And that's until the public, until the public demands it, and that's the beauty of the Nick Shirley video, is the work in people, this country, and the question is, are there enough of them that have seen that, that are properly outraged by how they are getting screwed, how they're being taken advantage of these people then go on social media and taunt them for giving them this lifestyle where they don't have to work. You work your tail off, you pay the taxes, and I'll live in the lap of luxury off of the benefits you provide me. Are there enough for Americans? Have we already crossed that rubicon where there are too many people who are gonna vote themselves, benefits, vote for Democrats, and this democracy, this republic is over? That's the 64,000 dollar question, I can't answer it. Well, it's terrifying forking the road that you're presenting. It's something Blake and I argue about off the air all the time. Are there, is there enough virtue left in the people? We often say that you get the leaders that you deserve, and Charlie's message was always like, be a type of person worthy of great leadership.

30:02It starts individually. Are there enough good people left, right? And that is the question. The other question, though, Senator, is how do we reform our elections so that Somali, one Somali can collect eight different ballots, nobody checks it, just hands them all in. And that's, you know, Trump was mentioning this morning with in front of the House GOP guys, the SAVAC, play cut 220. You want to have voter ID, you want to insist on it? You want to insist on it? The only reason somebody doesn't want that is because they want to cheat. And you would have passed the SAVAC, or whatever you're gonna call it. I mean, so it's getting mentioned again, Senator. Is there any hope of this? Is there any political will? Or do we have the votes? Well, one of the reasons I reluctantly, again, I think the filibuster has prevent us from being a socialist nation for decades, but Democrats, they're gonna over, they're gonna get rid of the filibuster. So we better beat them to the punch and to do it. So we actually pass pieces of legislation like the SAVAC.

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32:03It may not be available in all 50 states. Go to YRIFI.com, that is Y-R-E-F-Y.com. Let's face it, if you have distress or defaulted student loans, it can be overwhelming. Because a private student loan debt, so many people feel stuck. Go to YRIFI.com, that is Y-R-E-F-Y.com. Private student loan debt relief, YRIFI.com. Senator Ron Johnson, you brought up, you opened a huge can of words. You said something that Blake and I have been having ongoing debates about the filibuster. I am still on the fence because I don't believe with Morkowski and Susan Collins and Mitch McConnell right now that we even have the votes to do much anything good. Rand Paul's always a wild card. Maybe you get 50 plus one on some of these four new. The concern is, do we eliminate the filibuster and then we're not able to pass anything other than the most, oh, we avoid another government shutdown. And then Democrats take power and it's just that much easier for them to tee off on their much more explicit, ambitious agenda,

33:05national abortion, national DC statehood, Puerto Rico State. A lot of stuff that they've talked about, packing the courts. First of all, they're going to do that when they regain power. They purge the two centers that prevented that last time. Again, it's unfortunate they don't respect the minority rights in the Senate. So the first step would be to lay out the powerful agenda that we could pass. And that'll take president's leadership. And I'm not talking about a laundry lip list of three or four dozen items. I'm talking about the three or four or five things that we must do starting with restoring elections. And that's your Democrats use COVID. They exploited it. They completely contrary to the Baker Carter bipartisan commission said that absentee balloting is probably the greatest threat to election integrity. They doubled the number of absentee ballots. They had mail-in balloting, which is why I think Biden, if he actually got the 80 million votes for every Godman, it's a joke. So again, we have to restore integrity elections or this thing's over because the Democrats will cheat.

34:08They're designing the system to cheat. And they'll cheat. Yeah, no, I totally agree. Some my question, so my big white whale is the voting integrity, voter ID. But it's also immigration. And I don't believe that we have the political will or the motivation within either the House or the Senate to get real immigration work done. And I mean, listen, I'm in favor of a net zero immigration moratorium. I get it. Not everybody's on that wavelength with me. But we cannot be flooding our country. It's not just illegal immigrants, Senator. There is 1.2 million green cards to legal's family reunification, chain migration, visa lottery, diversity lottery. All this stuff's got to go. I mean, we don't need it. We got the AI revolution nipping at our heels. We're going to we're not going to need a lot of these jobs. Robotics, even for things like farming and different industries that have typically been the ones that are loudest in the room trying to get more immigrants into the country. We were watching the eraser of American culture before our eyes.

35:10And you think about how many babies different immigrants groups are having compared to native born Americans. This thing is a ticking time bomb. And we're going to lose the country if we don't get that done. But we don't have it. So if I'm going to do filibuster, a newt to filibus, that's what I want. I want those two things. I don't know your reaction to that. And if there's anything else on your laundry list that you think we need to get done. Well, the major thing Democrats exploited in our immigration law was credible fear. The incredibly low standard versus the standard for actual asylum, which is kind of hard to prove. And so we've got to get credit that initial hurdle much closer to the general asylum standard. That should be a reasonably easy fix, not really complex. But again, you start with these are the things that have to be done. Make sure that we've got the votes to do it. I wouldn't do this filibuster until we have that done. Now, short of that, and Mike Lee is the champion of this, we could also stay here in town, stay in legislative session, and do a talking filibuster.

36:10And you really need to talk to Mike Lee. How you do that? We had him on. We had him on. Yeah, I like that idea. I actually like that. So we actually discuss that this morning, myself, and Rick Scott and Mike Lee, we need to start talking to our colleagues about that because right now, you don't have the votes to limit the filibuster. That's just true. But I think we need to express our colleagues in the Republican conference. Go, OK, short of that, there are things we have to do. And we talked to actually starting about saving with, start with a save act. Let's take that basic step to restore that level of integrity. Again, I don't want to take over elections. That's a slippery slope. But there have to be some basic federal standards for elections that states have to follow so that we have free and fair elections that don't produce illegitimate votes. Well, God bless you for that. I endorse Senator Lee's because that would be, I mean, the question is, Thune at that point would, you know, Senator Thune be on board with changing the rules and make people actually sit and stand on the Senate floor and argue until they lose, lose steam. I don't know.

37:11You would know better. Is there any appetite from Senator Thune? Well, we've got to sell it and I come from a manufacturing background. So what I suggest is we need to put the Senate. When we do that on a continuous shift, do a scale down staff. I don't want to be a Senate staff, but it means pretty easy. You put three shifts. People come in eight out of shifts. We've got to be around available. Don't have to be on the floor, but we just have to be available in case there's a quorum call or whatever. So it's entirely doable. You just have to have the will to do it. I always draw my kids nuts and say, no, three. Of course, the word can't is can. It just requires a real public. I can imagine being frustrated as your child. If you kept hitting me with that one, but yes, absolutely. I totally agree. We just, you just need to have the political will and I just, you know, I hope for the best from Senator Thune. I just, I don't hold my breath, unfortunately. I want to get to one other topic here really quick. Yesterday, the president announced that we are as a big win for Maha going from 72

38:12jabs for children and they're moving it down more in alignment with European, some of the other industrialized nations, 11 injections. What do you make of this? You were huge when it came to fighting the, the COVID jabs. And so I wanted to get your comments on that, Senator. An incredibly important first step. I give, you know, Bobby Kennedy and the president, all the credit in the world for doing this. I'm sure it's not popular in the medical establishment who, let's face it, they really do not understand that much about vaccines. They just told their safe, effective, and then they move forward, okay? So I would recommend your, your listeners, read vaccines on men by Aaron Syriets. There's a lot of good books. McCulloch has a good one out, dissolving illusions, turtles all the way down, but one that brings it all together, more, most powerfully is Aaron Syri's vaccines. Amen. Read that. You'll start on coming to understand really what a reasonable debate is about vaccines, you know, and how we should approach it. But I'm happy that we're going more to our European model, spacing them out, and do real

39:17science. And that's what takes time, because we have not had true rigorous studies on the safety and effectiveness of these vaccines. We simply have it. And that's what Bobby Kennedy's been pointing out. That's what Aaron Syriets proves in his book. There's a much more rational way approaching this. Our approach hasn't been rational this day, so again, it's a great first step. I had, we had Aaron Syri on the show for a long form conversation. It was fascinating. I learned a ton. He cross-examines some of these big pharma folks that are supposed to be experts in injections and vaccines, and in depositions, and gets them to admit that there hasn't been studies on these. And it's just, I mean, it will blow your mind when you hear the lack of evidence of science that backs some of these broad sweeping mandates for our children. If you'd outrage all your listeners to the extent that we've been lied to by the medical standards for our federal health agencies, we're not being lied to anymore with the Bobby Kennedy in person. God bless you, Senator.

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