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2:06Get your morning started with the hot and patent on 104-3 this score. And the one-one. Brownbone, a second base. This could do it. Remarie throws him out. Cubs win the ball game. Yellowwich bounces out to second base. Score it four to three. And the Cubs win the game. Two to one. A much needed victory for the Cubs here at Brickley. I'm sure you don't want to manage every game like this. Two to one. We're on a coaster. But these are fun games. These are fun games. These are fun games and the players love playing in games like this. So I'll take this game every day. Can you tell I'm going forward? Yeah, I mean, I don't know. It's a fun game. Let's just enjoy it. And when you get down to the big games, you're going to play more close games than kind of the game we played Monday night. So those games are always more fun. And when you win them, it just means a little bit more,

3:07because you had to make some big plays at some point. A lot of points in the game. Good Friday morning, Chicago. So welcome to the hot paint and show right here in Chicago Sports Radio 1 0 4 3 this score. We made it through the week. Jared, we're almost at seven o'clock. We'll be here till 10. A lot of fun. And hello to the Chicago Sports Network audience. I'm casting till nine o'clock. Thank you for watching this morning as well. Jared, I am with Craig Council 100%. Monday night was Bears 17 Packers 3. Nine to three games are fun because of nine home runs because of all of the things that happened when the balls flying out of the park. And you love that and this really was rolleking. Yes. But I'll take two to one last night every day. And that was every bit as satisfying. Maybe even more so because of the way it happened. Kevin Gossman just being locked in the bullpen. The bullpen doing its job with Zephyr John and Rolison in the eighth and the ninth locking

4:12it down. Chris Christian Yelch making the last out. Just not being able to hit the ball out of the ballpark to tie the game. This was from the moment it started two hours and 12 minutes. He had Caleb Williams, Caleb Wilson, Matas and then PCA delivered all of the fun. I don't like playoff baseball. And you were there to be able to witness it all. Still didn't get me a ticket but it's okay. I know our relationship and just getting started. I didn't know you were available. I played this trip a long time ago. No, it's all good. But last night I'll take these type of games too because that means pictures are doing what they're supposed to do. And it comes down to certain plays that stick out. And the play that sticks out to me last night was about the long ball. Right? Andrew Vaughan hit one and then you got PCA doing what he needs to do for the cups. Going down golfing one with a four iron and taking that thing out. And so every moment it keeps you on your toes where you're sitting there going, what's

5:16going to happen next? Who's going to make a mistake and who's going to find a way to be able to have the edge to win this game? It's out to Kevin Galsman for yesterday for doing what he needed to do. But the bull pin with Jeff Zeverjohn and also Rosalind, they did what they needed to do. He came in one, two, three inning and then Zeverjohn had a clean and so that's what you need. And that to me is positive moving forward as his team has to Miami. Three, one, two, six, forty four, sixty seven, sixty seven. Were you there? And if you were at Rigglyfield last night, as I was sitting there in the eleventh row, looking around and seeing amid the humidity and it was sticky by the end of the game. When the wind stopped blowing, it was like, okay, who turned off the air? There was a nice little breeze. It was a gentle breeze. It was a beautiful night weather-wise up until about the sixth inning. Then I was sweating mayonnaise like Kevin Galsman. It was like, oh my gosh, but nonetheless, if you were there, let us know what it was it like to just sense of playoff vibe because these were two of the best teams in the National

6:21League going pitch for pitch, toe to toe, inning for inning. And it was a really strong pitchers duel and the cup just got the best of it because of like you said, PCA came through in the clutch. Yeah, you needed your big dog, your MVP to be able to make a play and that's tough to do. He kind of struggled in the series where you're hoping, especially against the brewers this season. So to see him have that moment last night and then his buddy over there, Caleb Williams taping him as well, getting that on video. I haven't gone to his socials yet to see what that looked like, but I know he got it, all that footage of his guy PCA coming around the bases. I think he's got pretty, he's got people who can do that for him. Yeah, he does it by himself though. He checks and he sees everything. So Logan Henderson for the brewers was outstanding and I think that's what you kept on waiting for him to kind of buckle. And Galsman was strong. It was not one of those games where many guys wasted many pitches and you mentioned the

7:24PCA home run. It was according to Sarah Langs at MLB.com 1.2 feet off the ground. It was the fifth home run this year by Pete Corarm strong. That was 1.2 feet or lower that he hit out of the ballpark. The most in the Major League Baseball. So it was his 39th home run, but he has developed a knack. If it's off speed and it's a low pitch, he's going to take it deep. It's his approach at the plate. He is become, he just looks not a lot of movement, so smooth in his, in his back path, but can get to pretty much anything. And he stays back. That's a scary part. Anything off speed, he can get to anything. He can go down and take his pitching wedge and get to that. And so it's just amazing to see all around the strike zone. It doesn't matter where you put it. He'll find a way if he's feeling it, but it was a good at bat as well. That's what you love.

8:24You're forcing to get what you want. That's probably not what he wanted, but at that moment, he was able to get to that ball and take it out. 803, it was a playoff atmosphere every time any cup pitcher got into a little jam. Just felt like they were going to get out of it and they did. And the wind was awesome. I think he's got to say the wind was awesome. There was no wind. There was no wind. You can attest to that. You're sitting there and you're like, wait, what happens on the breeze? Yeah, so how tough is that where there's no breeze and you're eating chicken fingers? Is that tough? Is it tough? You don't have been tough. You don't have to tough. In a hot dog. In a hot dog. I'm not a hot dog guy. Not a hot dog guy. I like that I just went for the chicken figures. It was definitely the right move to make. And a night that you know you're going to be sweating a lot. I didn't want to like, pollute my body with anything else. I mean, chicken fingers is bad enough, isn't it? No. Chicken fingers in a hot dog. That's exactly the, it's not the health food diet. That's good for you. No clay harbor here. Yeah, I mean, he's probably at the gym right now.

9:25Yeah, I'm sure he's at the gym right now. So back to the bullpen because I think that was the one thing we talked to Tommy Howe to be on Thursday. And we went through every possible alternative that Cubs have every option in the bullpen. What about Edward Cabrera? What about this? What about him? Last night when Zephyr John came into the game, not going to lie, I thought, and I thought about what Tommy had said and how he just needs to get more experience in these situations. But it was a high leverage situation. A two one lead Kevin Gosman had been outstanding. And here comes Ryan Zephyr John in the eighth inning to shut it down and to be the setup guy. And I didn't know who was going to close because we didn't really have clarity there. Who was going to be available? You know, it wasn't going to be Jacob Webb. But I didn't know if it would be Rolison or maybe somebody else, but there was Zephyr John. Maybe I thought he would go to innings, but he shut down the Brewers.

10:28And that was exactly the role that he was brought here to play. The setup guy with the high heat on a night where they needed it. Yeah. It comes down to the staff. What nine innings gave it one earn and 10 Ks altogether because Zephyr John got that one in in the eighth. This gives you a little bit of hope. And I know with the Jacob Webb situation, you were kind of wondering what was going to happen. But to see Ryan Rosalind come in and do what he needed to do, that right there was a huge bright spot to me. It was always be the night for a lot of people that Caleb Williams showed up and went from, did he go straight from practice to to regularly feel his traffic. Traffic's no joke. He probably took him two hours to get from Lake Forest to to regularly. He got it. If he got there, police escort. He's not, he's not waiting in traffic. So he was there. He was chanting PCA. He was pounding on the dugout and he got everyone's attention. Pete Kharam strong. If you didn't hear what he had to say after the game, PCA was very appreciative of not only

11:33Caleb Williams, but not to be outdone. Matas Boussellus, who was there posing for pictures after the game with the backward jersey to see that. He put that on backward. Like Chris Croix. Caleb Wilson, who was there with the Matas taking batting practice before the game. And then they were, the odds were I've included a couple other guys, but basically it was the Bears quarterback cheering on the Cubs MVP candidate. And it certainly was one of those nights you never going to forget. Yeah, the camp club here tonight. Yeah, they pulled up. We've been, we've been trying to get him out here. But tonight was the first night they could all make it. So you know, Caleb getting done with camp and, um, Matas and Caleb, you know, just getting ready to start is exciting stuff. So nice to take their time. But, um, I mean, those are, those are good people. Those are, um, my people. Those are great representatives of Chicago. Um, you know, they, they wanted to sit behind home plate, but, um, maybe we get them there

12:38one day. I also want to apologize to the people who had to sit behind Buma, our security guard tonight. His big eyes. Uh, but, uh, awesome having them here. I, I, you know, I felt the, the energy from the crowd when, when they got put on the board. Um, yeah, Chicago's got a lot to look forward to with, with those three. What a night. It's so much fun when you see, why is it that the case when, when you see stars from other teams in town getting along and they seem to genuinely like each other. But that does really, it hits people a different way. It hits, hits people in a way that is more than just boy, you enjoyed the game. The Cubs won PCA homeward, but it was even more memorable because Caleb Williams was there. Yeah, I think though the crazy part about all this is that where we, we don't always get to see our stars of sports out and join themselves.

13:40It's normally you just go to a game and you watch them do what they do on the playing surface that they're on. But what we've had a chance to see in this city is that these young stars are taking advantage of the city. They know that the city loves them, but they're also supporting one another and going out and having fun. And I think that's the youth movement that they, that we have here in this city. And it's, it's cool to be able to see them out, but it makes them more human because we look at these guys almost as like superheroes of what they do. They're flying, dunking basketballs or, or making unbelievable throws to receivers down the field, but then you see them having fun. You're like makes them, makes them normal. And I think that's what fans are excited to see because they're there to see a game, but also the other stars of the city. It also, I think goes a long way toward just reinforcing this idea. You know, we talk about Caleb Williams. He has embraced all that comes with being the Bears quarterback and the celebrity that it affords him. You saw him last winter at Bulls Games, at Hawks Games.

14:43He's a super fan. He's at a Cubs game. Has he been, has he been at the rate yet? Is that next? No, no, why are you cringing? I think he's been all over though, but he has been all over, but he hasn't, I haven't seen it out there. He's a busy guy. You know, he's got to look and make your way to the Southside. Yeah, well, eventually, but I think that it's fun and fans like to see that crossover collaboration, that kind of interaction between people that they see every night on their television sets in their living rooms or wherever on their phones, getting along and seemingly liking, liking each other. I have a question for you though. Is, is, is close among gum rea part of that click? Or should he be a part of that click? I don't know. What about Connor Bedard? Where was he last night? Was he, shouldn't he be in town? They, they're playing hockey in like 15 days. Where was Bedard? Where was Anton Frontel introduced him to baseball? How would be kind of cool? Get him at Regley Field, a 47. It feels like high school with buddies going to each other's games. That's what it's like. Yeah. The guys are so young. So I mean, Caleb Wilson's still a teenager, still trying to figure it out.

15:47So he's getting brought under the wing of some of these guys. And I think it's cool how they keep initiating new superstars or new young stars that are coming into the city. Six three, oh, instead of being players and Chicago teams from around the country, we cheer for them. This feels like they're becoming us, a fan of Chicago as a whole. See that, that's it. That is, that is it in a nutshell because if you ask anybody, when you look at, you know, the guys that I grew up watching, it was in the household with my, my, my pops, Michael Jordan, we here in Chicago, we love our athletes so much that we forget that where they're from. If you ask people, people will say, my dad's probably from here. It's from Mississippi. You know what I mean? Yeah. But we, we, we forget about that because you become, when, when you do great things on the field, and you're a good person in the community, and you show that you want to be here, Chicago just opens up your, their arms to you. I think there's a statue of your dad in Jackson, Mississippi. Yes. Is there not that is at his high school? Yes. I remember the unveiling of that.

16:48I think I was down there for the Tribune covering the unveiling of that statue. And, and doing, I probably talked to some of your relatives and then and some of his teachers and all those things because in Jackson, Mississippi, they want to pay them along to them. Yeah. But in Chicago, you'll never convince anybody here that he doesn't belong to us. And that's what we're doing to these, these young stars. And they, they feel it, which is a really cool vibe to start setting and also looking at the future of what we have here in this city is these young stars that are up and coming. A47 says, Bedard was there. I did that C Bedard. Did anyone see Bedard? I, my wrong was Bedard there. If Bedard was there, I would certainly apologize to kind of a guard because that would be even more star power. Yeah, I didn't see him. I did not see him. I think people are confusing Bedard with the Cole Bennig guy, the music director. Yeah. So he hangs out with it. Yeah. The better it was there. He's Caleb guy. He's, he's a big dog. Cole is, he call us a big dog. Heavyweight. Heavyweight in this city.

17:48Back to the baseball because of all the youth that was being celebrated and all the fandom that was fun to remember, Kevin Gosman got it done. And I think what the best thing to talk about Kevin Gosman will hear from him and how he described his performance in a second. But Jared on the Fox broadcast because last night was the score was the only local broadcast of the game. John Smoltz, I think, said something to the effect of this was the Kevin Gosman that you saw in Toronto in the playoffs, refusing to give in dominating with command and using his pitches in a way that made him impossible. Not impossible, but certainly gave him. The abilities to last seven innings to do what he did, the sinker, the split, all the things that were working for him. That was reminiscent of the guy we saw in the postseason and the guy that the Cubs are banking on are going to represent them in the playoffs. Well, the Cubs are hoping that they were going to get this guy. And so he's been really consistent of figuring out ways to be able to keep his composer on the mound.

18:54But also the command last night was out of control. I can't say enough about his pitches, the fastball, the split and up what's mixing up with the splitter. I mean, everything for a lot of swing and miss. And so you really started to see him kind of feel it comfortable and not a little bounce back game from it for his last time out. And since then, first and then. Yeah, he struck out nine and he had everything in command. And I think that when you talk about just what he is able to do had 12 swinging strikes. That's within 20 swings. So that is a 60% whiff rate, which is outstanding. This is how Kevin Gosman described his performance on Thursday night against the brewers. It all starts with command for me, you know, being able to move my fastball around. You know, when I can do that and throw strikes consistently, you know, and the split is carrying the zone. You know, I'm pretty hard to beat. So, you know, add that with Carson calling a great game and the defense behind me.

19:55And just say, just a good night of, you know, just making pitches when I have to. Kevin Gosman on his performance, seven strong innings put the cubs in a position to beat the brewers. Two to one there on their way. They're already there in Miami. They resume action tonight against the Marlins showed him a nag on the mound big series down in South Florida. When we come back though, shifting gears, it is big. Time. There are some news at how us all on Thursday, not great news. But we'll talk to Brad Nex about injuries to Roma, Dunez and Deandre Swift. Keep it right here. Tom Peyton Chicago sports radio 104 three the score. When equipment breaks down and operations come to a halt every single second counts. So why is your maintenance team spending 60% of their time doing anything but turning wrenches? Ah. Maintain X is the AI powered maintenance and asset management system that helps your team get back to actually fixing breakdowns.

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24:07Longtime contributor to the station. No, no, then Brad Biggs. Morning, Brad. How are you doing? Morning, boys. What's going on? So doesn't look great when Thursday's report from Hales Hall after a practice that Ben Johnson has built up to be an important one. Roman Dunez, a leaves early with a foot injury. Looks like it might have been the same one. DeAndre Swift. Also with an injury, a leg injury. What's the level of concern out there? Well, you never want, you never want guys to leave practice early, but the shutter seems to think it could be more cramping related for Swift. Obviously, very high yesterday, they're practicing in the middle of the afternoon. A dunesay pride to keep going. So I don't think, you know, nowadays, if a guy, if there's the slightest thing wrong, people, it's just overreaction city. Hopefully, they'll be all right.

25:08I can understand him wanting to get in a physical practice history, a long practice, because the downside to doing those joint practices, especially when you're on the road, is you actually lose a little practice time, right? In terms of install and things of that nature. So that's the first thing. And then the second thing is the weather yesterday, the weather today, it's going to be miserable outside is likely to be quite similar to what they encounter week one in Charlotte. Like you're going to the south in early to mid September and you're playing it noon. There's a good chance it's going to be hot and it's going to be real humid. So I think he wants his team prepared for that. Like there's not an excuse to lose a ball game and head to the airport and say, well, you know, our guys got worn down and it was really hot, especially when you've had a chance to sort of prepare for it. So the bears got after it a little bit yesterday and they'll have a three day weekend now

26:13before they return to work on Monday. Big C, what do you think a realistic role for Xavier Thomas is this season? Yeah, that's a good question. Because I mean shoot, you just see what he can do with the ball in his hands. I think you start out with kickoff return and you have some stuff in mind for him on offense. But I think that's the kind of thing that's going to really be dependent on a number of factors. One, how comfortable do the coaches feel he is with the scheme? Like they don't have time for guys in a game lining up in the wrong spot or running the wrong route or playing with it with any indecision. And I'm not saying that's a problem for Thomas, but I am saying he's a rookie and he's missed

27:15a little bit of time with an injury. So it's going to be dependent on how comfortable they are with him and it's going to be game plan dependent. Okay, how do they want to attack the opponent this week? Where do they want to use him? Remember this guy lined up in the back field a little bit in college. So he's a guy that'll probably be relatively low snap counts early in the season. As is the case with all coaching staffs when a guy shows he can perform well, you put a little bit more on his plate so that playing time could grow as the year goes on. So Brad, beginning with a training camp, it was the left tackle situation and a lot of attention paid competition. We heard from press tailor yesterday, though, and he talked about Garrett Bradbury as if and a lot of the way a lot of people have talked about Garrett Bradbury about him having a pretty good camp he's mastered, command of all of the verbiage and all of the running

28:18game and all of the things. And I thought at one point in time there was going to be a training camp battle at center between Logan Jones, a second round pick and Garrett Bradbury. But it seems as if there's a lot of satisfaction with the veteran that they traded for after the Drew Dahlman retirement. Yeah, well, I think a couple of things to touch on there. Number one, there was a left tackle competition and that was legit. I think early on. But once they pulled, Jettrick Will's and they pulled on the Gadji and they were getting reps with the ones and then you only saw a Fio there for a minute. I don't know the Braxton wanted there. And the final week and a half as much as the other guys were finally kind of removed from the equation. But yeah, Bradbury, listen, I think you could make a case and I've written this once or

29:21twice that the center position in replacing Dahlman was as significant or more significant to Ben Johnson than left tackle, which sounds a little nutty when you think about the significance of the left tackle to your offensive line. But Johnson proved last year they could have a revolving door at left tackle. They could have a guy that had really hardly played before in the open it line up there. They could have a rookie and as he trippillo line up there, they could have a guy who clearly wasn't back to 100% Braxton Jones line up there. And it never undermined what they wanted to do offensively. He was able to find workarounds to it. Whereas Dahlman kind of set the tone for everything. He played with a lot of range and the ability to move so he could help them with their outside

30:26zone running scheme. So finding a veteran with experience and what they want to do offensively, I think was key when Dahlman left and Bradbury kind of foot the bill is he as athletic as Dahlman, maybe not. But he's been solid and so a competition was never even that we never saw a center competition emerge at all. And I don't think that means that they're down on Logan Jones. They just they want an experienced guy in there and they're going to let Logan take some time and develop behind the scenes. That's a really tough position for a rookie to step in any NFL and certainly all and can talk to much greater lengths and with greater clarity than I could on that. But Bradbury has been the guy kind of all along. I had a question for you Brad, but then I started to hear you talk and I wanted to take

31:28a piece of what you were talking about the left tackle position because it's very interesting. We as as as people on the media and then bears fans, that was the conversation that everybody has been having all summer is like they got to figure out the left tackle position. But it doesn't seem like Ben Johnson is as worried as most bears fans are about that position because he finds way to be able to scheme around it. It's pretty amazing. Well, and you want like a lot of these offensive coaches now, one of the things they're really looking for from their offensive line is a firm pocket. A firm, you know, middle of the pocket. So you're talking about being really good from guard to guard. So the quarterback has some clear throwing lanes. So the quarterback can step up in the pocket to deliver the ball. Like Caleb will be able to probably because of his athletic ability handle some pressure

32:31coming off the edge with greater ease than a guy that's in his lap right away. You know, if you've got a if the middle isn't firm, that's going to kind of blow the whole thing up. So, yeah, they, and you're seeing the interior alignment make more and more money. And we left tackles still at the top of the chart, but heck, there's, there's very, what is it two or three maybe left tackles making more money than Darnell right now? Like in these deals, they just jump one another, right? It's whatever turn you are in line at offensive tackle or cornerback or whoever, like next man up usually gets the biggest contract, but the pay that there's not the pay disparity that you were used to previously when it was left tackles getting elite pay and everybody

33:32got significantly less. Now, it's a lot closer. Big time here on hot pay in Chicago sports radio. One, oh, four, three, the squad and other couple minutes with Brad Biggs from the Chicago Tribune. Brad, we heard from TJ Edwards on Thursday and I liked the fact that against the Titans, he wanted to get in there for a couple of series just to get reacclimated after missing so much the last season with his injury. I'm not quite sure what he means to this defense or if he means as much as he did before the injury, but where do you think he is and where's the confidence level and his ability to be as steady as he was before he was hurt? Yeah, you just, I mean, you want to try to avoid him having to do a ton in coverage. Like chase guys, you know, what was summoned to Troy, I think he had like James and Williams coming across the field, right? Like that's a matchup that yeah, but in fairness to him, that would have been a poor

34:34matchup for Erlaker, right? There's not many people on the planet that can run with that guy. He's, you know, you look at that defense, who are the leaders? Like who are these guys that are going to step forward and beat that guy? And I think TJ has experience doing that. Number one, you hope he can stay healthy. I think he factors in his defense because he's super sharp. I mean, he's really been a good player because he's able to read the keys and tells faster than most guys at that position. Are we going to see him on the field every single down? I don't know. The Marco Jackson probably figures in there at some point, but yeah, Edwards, if he can move around well and is looked at right in practice, it will help them out.

35:38Biggs, you know, we look at the offense and how many different 12 personnel, 13 personnel, you look at the tight end room, that's a crowded room, which I know Ben kind of likes. And so with, we know what Colson Loveland's going to do and we have those expectations for him. And another guy that's trying to find a way to probably fit in is a guy named Colcomette. And what do you see his role in this offense? And can he be a guy? Is it going to be more of like that same role last year? Do you see it? His role kind of fading even more. No, I think Colcomette can do anything that they want him to. Like he's a guy that that's what he brings to the table is he can, he can get open and catch a pass down field or it can be heavily involved in run blocking, pass protection. You name it and he does a little bit of it all at a high level.

36:40If we are looking at the box score each Sunday at his receptions and yards and judging his value to the offense by that, we're probably, well, I'm not probably, we'll be missing the mark by a wide margin. Like Ben Johnson, I think really appreciates what Colt brings to the offense. And you know, so I don't, what are the numbers look like for him in the passing game? It's hard for me to say because you go back to last season through the first, I want to say like five games. They weren't throwing the ball to either of them. Like loved one one getting the ball his way. Colt wasn't getting the ball his way. I looked at some of the, they were on like a crazy pace for not throwing the ball to the tight end at all. And then Caleb started doing that and they started going loved ones way a lot over at the very end of the season.

37:41But it's going to be dependent on what they want to do. But you just, you're making a mistake if you're looking at, come out, fantasy football statistics and trying to equate that to his value to the offense and the football team. Great stuff, Brad. Have a terrific weekend. Take care guys. Have a great day. Thanks for your time, Brad. Bigs football man from the Chicago Tribune, talking all things, Chicago Bears. When we come back, the ice man takes on hot ones. We'll have fun with that. The Caleb Williams interview. We'll talk about it next on hot paint Chicago sports radio. One, four, three, the score. When equipment breaks down and operations come to a halt, every single second counts. So why is your maintenance team spending 60% of their time doing anything but turning wrenches? The next is the AI powered maintenance and asset management system that helps your team

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43:51But, Jared, I felt like there was a lot to like about it in terms of Caleb talking about the hospitable Chicago wins, how clean the city is, all the things. But to me, this left the deepest impression. Talking about the clutch gene and also all the quarterbacks that he went through in terms of a litany of guys that what comes of mind when you hear the great names? So there's a school of thought and sports science. Yep. That clutch is mostly not real. That it's actually a kind of survivorship. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like being clutch. Like being clutch. That it's actually a kind of survivorship bias. But we remember the great fourth quarter comebacks, but forget about the games that got away. Yep. Is someone who said an NFL record with seven fourth quarter comebacks this last year? What's your response to the lab research? Like do you think the clutch gene is real or a myth? I do. I do. I really do. Actually, I think some people have it, some people don't. I think you can also make it stronger or make it all, like it can also weaken.

44:54Like you can weaken it. So I think part of it's a mindset and I think some things you can't research. I think some things you can't put into a lab and say, you know, we're going to look at this or that. I think when it becomes that moment that, you know, we need to go score. I take that deep breath right before the moment and then it zones me in and it feels like everything's shut off and I think part of it comes from the confidence and the hard work that I've put in to where when I take that deep breath, it goes back to that time where it's me, you know, I'm Jacksonville, LA working out throwing to my guys in Chicago working out. And it's nasty me into that mode and, you know, I think the full trust and faith and belief goes into my coaches, my teammates and myself. There's no academic measure for that dog in you. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Damn, right. I'm going to throw some at you and then you tell me what a quarterback can learn watching the tape. Okay. Randall Cunningham. Cannon. He could do the thing that I did versus Rams. 20 extra yards. He could hold the ball anywhere, anywhere, put it on the field at any point whenever he wanted.

45:58Tom Brady. Killer. Two minute killer. In the game, moment killer. Let's go moment killer. Aaron Rogers. It's a magician with the football, magician with the football and Caleb Williams. All of you buff. Let him know. Let him know. Is it that the best way he could have answered that? All of the above. This man. This man has so much confidence in himself. You got to love it. From from the moment that he stepped into Chicago, you could feel that, you know, it was going to, it was going to take some time. But David, he is confident in his game. He respects the guys that came before him. But the dude just, he tells it like it is and he doesn't shy away from it. And that's what I got from watching Hot Woods was watching him have fun. I've, we've all seen him evolve over the years since he's been here. And now he's feeling comfortable in his skin in this city.

47:00Loves the city. Things it's clean. I just, I think this is that next step of him. I can only imagine the pressure that he's feeling on himself or on his shoulders. I'd like the fact that he has such a respect for the history of the game. And first of all, the clutch gene answer was terrific. It's he phenomenal. He talked about how he balanced science with just instinct and all of those things. But he also was asked about Randall Cunningham, a quarterback whose first year in the league was 1985. His last year in the league was 2001. How old is Caleb Williams? Okay. And Caleb Williams had a very accurate assessment of Randall Cunningham for those of a certain age who remember him. With a cannon. Yes. I can't throw the ball a hundred yards. That was impressive. Very impressive. Every time Caleb Williams has opened his mouth behind a microphone this off season, he has been impressive. I think that's the reason why he's so good is because he does take pieces like being a student of the game.

48:05That means you're watching film and you have the ability to be able to take certain things that you like from certain guys that have played the position and put it into your bag of tricks. Caleb Williams was at the Cubs game last night. He sucked Pete Koramstrong with a home run that he golfed out and the Cubs held on for a two to one victory. Ron Cumer called every pitch. He will join us next on The Hawn Payton Show Chicago sports radio. One of four three. The score. Somebody's on. He needs some milk. Nobody gets into maintenance for the paperwork. But somewhere along the way, the clipboard's piled up and the spreadsheet's multiplied. Good technicians spend hours per day on admin instead of turning a wrench. Maintain X was built to give that time back. Preventer to maintenance runs on a real schedule, automated, assigned, and nothing slipping through. With Maintain X, work orders go out in seconds, and everyone from the floor to the front office knows what's due and when.

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