Is there a correlation between infant screen time and adult anxiety?

0:00Good afternoon America nice to nice to see all of you here today and the room. How is everybody? Everybody looks well. Everybody looks happy. What it looks like they're smiling. It's just it's a beautiful day. The sun is shining at least here where we're at. It's shining at its glorious and there's some fun things to get into today. What I really want to dive headlong into is some interesting research out of Singapore that links the screen time of babies. Now I'm not even talking about the kindergarteners and preschoolers. We're

1:05talking about babies. The screen time of babies linked to brain pre-matcheration. Not maturation pre-matcheration. The study's out of Singapore and it is intriguing. Yeah we're going to dive into it because parents need to know about it. Parents of toddlers, parents of infants, parents of preschool, kindergarten, parents of elementary students. They need to know what's what's coming out of the research. What the research is telling us in terms of what screen time is doing to the brain and it's not necessarily destroying it in the sense that it's wearing it down but it's apparently it appears to be maturing it faster and so you might ask, well isn't that a good thing? That the brain matures faster and the child becomes more mature quicker. I mean maybe on

2:13the surface it might seem like a great thing but we're going to see what the research says and I think we're going to come to the conclusion that slowly is always the fastest way. Slowly my friends is always the fastest way but before we get there today's a history class. I hear I hear the school bell chiming even as we speak. We're going we're going to history class. It's an important history class. It is ever going to get it right here first at the onset because the lesson is when we don't get to history class on the onset then nine times out of ten we don't get to it and that's disappointing because you know how much we love history around here. Give me liberty or give me death. That is the title of today's history class and you know right where we're going. As soon as I say those words give me liberty or give me death all of you all of you immediately

3:14think of Patrick Henry and you would be correct if you did because it was on this day in 1775 March 23rd when hostilities between Americans and British troops were breaking out in New England they were about to really come to a come to a an explosion in Lexington and Concord. We're just a couple weeks away from that anniversary. It was on this day that Patrick Henry stood in a packed St. John's church in Richmond, Virginia. Yes he was in a church. Did you know he was in a church? St. John's church in Richmond. He stood and gave his fiery argument to the second Virginia convention that the time had come for the colonies to gather their strength and commit themselves to action. It was it was the

4:15Virginians here who who ultimately called for for the Continental Congress to convene just a few months earlier in September of 1774. It was the Virginians. It was old dominion or ancient dominion as the others referred to them as and they enjoyed referring to themselves as ancient dominion because Virginia they were the first colony geographically they're the biggest they just kept expanding and expanding and they are carrying the water here. They call for the Continental Congress when they do this by the way with with Patrick Henry one of the leaders here in Virginia when they do this the King shut some down because Virginia well they're a royal colony and and the King and the governor shut down this assembly just just as the King did and

5:19Governor Wentworth did in New Hampshire. We talked about or or shall I say yeah we did we we covered New Hampshire a couple weeks ago I think and that King out there or I'm sorry that that governor out there went worth shut down the assembly and what did they do they just reconvened they ignored Wentworth's orders and they reconvened causing Wentworth to flee. Well the same thing happened here in Virginia the governor shut down the House of Burgesses and what did they do so instead they go to St. John's Church in Richmond and they continue to convene they continue to deliberate they continue to discuss and talk through what what they should do as a people and it's here that Patrick Henry's ringing words on March 23rd 1775 still remind us that freedom even

6:27today must be defended even today freedom requires that we stand up and and and utter defense of it all right here's what he says matter of fact should I pause and let you go to the internet pull up Patrick Henry's give us liberty or give us death speech when you're welcomed up to read along this excerpt with me shall we gather strength by resolution and in action what he's saying here when you think we're gonna be come strong but not doing anything by just sitting on our hands shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by laying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope until our enemy shall have bound us hand in foot oh the language here is just absolutely glorious I just shall we acquire the means of a factual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive

7:32phantom of hope that the verbiage here don't you wish we we still spoke like this I say we bring it back I say we we bring back the words effectual supinely delusive um the battle sir he continues the battle sir is not to the strong alone it is to the vigilant the active the brave besides sir we have no election if we were based enough to desire it it is now too late to retire from the contest there is no retreat but in submission and slavery our chains are forged their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston the war is inevitable and let it come I repeat it sir let it come the clanking of the chains of slavery can be heard in Boston he's saying look if we don't act Boston's going to be overrun and then

8:35we're next you think they're going to stop it Boston you think you're going to stop it New England no no they're coming for us and all of us he continues it is in vain sir to extenuate the matter gentlemen may cry peace peace but there is no peace the war is actually begun the next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms and he was prophetic here because the next gale that would come from the north was just a few weeks away and that would be Lexington and Concord and there would be a clash of arms there and it is Lexington and Concord where in the shot heard round the world would be fired and this revolution would begin and the British would would make their way back the Boston but Boston the siege would start I mean this thing is it's on we would form a continental

9:38army this thing is on people are fired up so at this point Patrick Henry is being prophetic when he says the next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms he continues our brethren are already in the field why stand we here idle what is it that gentleman wish what would they have is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery forbid it almighty God I know not what course others may take but as for me give me liberty or give me death bum bum bum there it is there it is my friends I know not what other course you're going to take but I know what I'm going to do I am going after liberty and I'm either going to achieve liberty or I'm going to achieve death liberty or death that's

10:44where we're at Patrick Henry my friends oh it's just a fun history class it's a fun reminder that even today it's something that we are still fighting for and it's this kind of history class that our young people need to hear they need to contemplate the words of Patrick Henry it's a speech that really should be memorized and should be understood within its context because it can be extrapolated out even to today freedom is something as Reagan said that is not just naturally in our bloodstream it's got to be it's got to be passed down from generation to generation this generation has to pass it down to the next and they have to pass it down and so on it just isn't going to happen it's got to be fought for continuously constantly gone after all right and and

11:49that's that's why we're doing it here that's the importance of it that's the importance of history class it's why we do it and definitely we do it weekly I feel like there are certain spans of time or we have a history class almost every day and it's important it's something that we have to do and it's why we're celebrating 250 years this summer in national Tennessee and by the way if you've not purchased your tickets yet for the 250 10 I encourage you do it get on that go to america out loud.news right now and discover what you have to do to get yourself registered because these tickets will sell out they will be gone you will miss it if you do not act and act quickly it's going to be a gala of an event I'm telling you uh nationally renowned speakers wonderful delicious food fantastic entertainment a fireworks display second to none July second

12:49third and fourth in downtown Nashville we would love for you to join us uh it's going to be a great time not only are we celebrating 250 years of American independence but we're celebrating 10 glorious years of america out loud 10 glorious years of of the uh right to speak our minds and and and the ability to do it on this platform ah it's fantastic all right my friends speaking of the ability speak on this platform I want to want to dive into some research I came across this this article the other day by Cara Michelle Miller and she is with the epoch times and she's exploring this research out of Singapore that is uh it's it's profound her her headline is titled baby screen time link to brain pre maturation and it um you know when we think of of brains

13:56maturing some might say well you know the faster they mature isn't isn't that better shouldn't we kind of speed them along a little bit uh and this research is is finding that that's that's not accurate that that's not that the way we should be going about it that slowly actually is the fastest way um screens that increasingly fill babies early days according to Michelle Cara Michelle Miller can shape her brain tangle uncertainty and stress later on this is what the the research is uncovering the study found interestingly that the average baby this is going to shock you this right here I mean it shocked me the average baby we're we're talking about babies here okay the average baby spends more than two hours a day on screens and and and the the age range here at they refer to a baby is birth to two birth to age two how in the world you might ask kind of

15:05kind of baby navigate a screen how can you how how can a baby spend two hours on a screen well you you hand it to it you hand the screen to the child and it stares at it it just you know whatever's happening on the screen is bouncing around and and and the child is engaged and the activity well isn't that a good thing it's that the child doesn't engage it gauge just the key word here the child be it be engaged with something and following it around and allowing its eye movements and eye patterns to well no apparently no all right so the average the average baby spends more than two hours a day on a screen from ages of birth to and the research has discovered that this early exposure leaves traces in the brain that persists for more than a decade and and so what does that mean well it can influence how quickly they make decisions or how slowly they make decisions and how and how prone they are to anxiety as they as

16:12they grow up the findings were published in e biomedicine and they come from one of the longest running studies to follow the same children from birth into their teens the longitudinal factor here this study is is impressive they followed these children the same exacted children from birth to to when they're 13 or at some point into their teens and because of this ability to follow them for over a decade their their research in their study links early screen exposure to brain changes that are in turn connected to slower decision making and even mental health problems that show up years later and by mental health problems we are referring to anxiety and things of

17:15that of that ilk early experiences help shape how flexible and resilient the brain later becomes the the lead author in this study I don't know how how your pronounce his name pi huang I think p e i h u a n g huang I'm going to I'm going to say pay maybe pay huang this was his statement that early experiences help shape how flexible and resilient the brain will will later become and so when certain brain systems specialize too quickly he said children may be less able to adapt later in life we don't want the brain and and particular systems within the brain to specialize too quickly or to mature too quickly this thing is a process we're not like other animals we're not like the horses where we come

18:15right out and then we get up on our on our two feet and start walking there is a process that our brain needs and requires and there are certain things that our brain needs and requires in order for this this process to to come to full maturation and we shouldn't be speeding it along and and and what this this research is discovering that the screen time for babies and infants and toddlers is indeed speeding that that process along all right I'm looking at the clock here and I see we are up against it so let's pause here for a minute we're going to pick this article up in this research up I'm near the side of the break but before we get there I want to remind you that our friends at the wellness company are giving you an exclusive offer just for America out loud listeners and that is when you subscribe to your favorite wellness company

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22:29of a toddler of a baby i mean there are things that are absolutely necessary and the screen is on one of them now here's what i don't want i don't want to come across as preachy or you said i have those screens i'll tell you i'll tell you put that screen away right now i don't want to come across that way because i get it a hundred percent i mean you're you're a busy parent you need a minute and you whip out your phone and you you turn on something some type of cartoon some type of something or other and then you hand it to your to the infant and and bi golly boom um little little little little johnny is mesmerized and and and little johnny is captivated and and then he's busy he's he's preoccupied for a minute and and you've got a break you've got this moment that you can you can just relax and and take a breath i get all that i do

23:30i understand it but there are some some some things that you need to be aware of if if that is the road that that you want to go down and even for a minute because if you go down that road for a minute then the chances are you you might end up just because of the nature of the beast you might end up going down longer than a minute so that this is why we're here today this is why we're going through this research it's why we're exploring it so as i said this came out of Singapore scientists followed 168 children and Singapore beginning at their birth and tracked them to the age of 13 along the way they would scan their brains they did a brain scan at the age of four and a half they did a brain scan again at six and a brain scan again at seven

24:33and a half were so right here in the middle they're doing brain scans every year and a half and then they were followed up again at the age of 13 so on average babies in the cohort were already spending more than one hour a day on screens by the time they hit age one holy smokes age one they're already added an hour a day by the time they get to age two the average has doubled to two hours a day children who had more daily screen time as babies showed a faster than typical change in how visual processing regions of the brain connected with areas involving planning this is just this is enthralling to me they again children who had more daily screen time as babies show a faster than typical change in how their visual processing

25:36and these regions of visual processing of the brain connect with other areas of the brain and other areas that are involved in planning involved in an attention or decision making put simply those brain systems appeared to mature easier earlier and faster than what they would have normally now again we're like yeah it's a great thing to get those things you know let's get those regions of the brain mature faster babies with accelerated brain maturation had a higher risk of developing cognitive and behavioral issues and adolescents this is what the researchers found so no now it's not a good thing that we get these regions of the brain maturing faster here's what Huang said again he's the the lead researcher here in the study accelerated maturation happens when certain brain networks develop too fast often in response to adversity

26:38or other stimuli early brain differences linked to screen time showed up in their behavior at age eight and a half children with altered brain patterns took longer to decide when presented with a gambling task where they had to guess which color box hit a token and how many points to bet on their choice the children weren't necessarily making wrong choices they were just making slower choices well what's the big deal with that that's okay that they that they take their time and making their their decisions well by the age of 13 teens who had taken a few extra seconds longer to make decisions earlier in childhood reported more frequent or more intense anxiety systems overall so now the question becomes is it anxiousness that is delaying their decision making process the authors argue that the link

27:43between accelerated visual control network maturation and slower deliberation and higher anxiety points to a plausible brain-based pathway and their view heavy screen exposure may push the brain sensory and control systems to organize differently than they would with less screen time fast moving brightly edited digital images strongly stimulate the visual system at a time when the brain is still learning how to filter and prioritize information from all the senses and so during typical development brain network specialized gradually they specialize slowly in children with higher screen exposure along said that networks involved in vision and cognition appear to specialize faster before the brain had an opportunity to to build in the efficient connections needed

28:44for complex thinking the brain is this unbelievable machine and in order for it to mature well it's got to mature slowly it's got to give everything an opportunity to to connect and if visual information is harder to regulate the child may take longer to feel confident enough to act which could then contribute to hesitation or worry or anxiety when situations feel uncertain or when they feel overwhelming whoong said that this can limit flexibility and it can limit resilience the overall effect size was small but developmental neuroscientists often note that small effects in early childhood can add up over time particularly when they involve fundamental systems such as attention and emotional regulation outside experts say that the study

29:50does not necessarily establish cause and effect here and you know they they they might be right but it's still interesting enough to to stop and pay attention to the study offers a thoughtful link between screen exposure and future implications on anxiety decision making but Catherine Humphries who is a developmental neuroscientist and professor of psychology and human development at Vanderbilt told the epoch times that we should still interpret this cautiously she she's not involved in the study but she's read through it and you know she understands it but she's just saying hey let's you know let's not ultimately start talking about cause and effect Brandon McDaniel is a child development research researcher and professor of pediatrics at Indiana

30:57University and neither was he involved in the study but he told the epoch times that the study suggests a link between infant screen use and later differences in brain development but it cannot show that screen exposure itself caused those changes he said it could be that infants in this study who were more frequently exposed to screen use also experienced fewer higher quality interactions with their caregiver and we know that high quality interactions between caregivers and infants are critical for healthy infant development now this is important McDaniel here is in my opinion he's nailing it it might not be that it's the it's the it's the it's the screen time that's creating a lagging development here in terms of decision making in terms of

32:04anxiety it could be what the screen time is replacing and that is the high quality interactions between parents and children this is this is the important thing he uses caregivers and infant I'm not going to call parents caregivers parents or parents and the high quality interaction that they have with with their babies is of the utmost importance now it is true or apparently it would seem that the what a weighing discovered and that is there are these these networks involved in vision and cognition that appear to be specializing faster his words he said that before the brain had built the efficient connections needed for complex thinking that these these specific areas are developing

33:07faster and quicker that could be because of of the interaction with the screen time and it could also be that the effects later on are because there's not enough quality interaction with actual humans it might not just be one of the other but it might be this vicious combination of both genetics temperament parenting stress or or family mental health history could also influence how much screen time infants get and how anxiety develops later on still the proposed pathway is useful for thinking about what infants brains need most during these these first years of life these first most important years of life there are certain particular things that that the infants need so let's kind of talk through this here the first two years are a

34:11period of what researchers tell us are rapid brain growth and reorganization during this time brain systems involved in attention self-control emotional regulation these are just beginning to form the developing brain learns best from live responsive interaction it's this simple back and forth that takes place between parents it's these these small little moments that that are happening between the parent the child such as peekaboo yeah you know that peekaboo game is classic and you know you hide your eyes and then you peekaboo and then and the little the little guy laughs or whatever so we're looking at peekaboo we're looking at shared attention during play we're looking at parents responding to a baby's sounds and a baby's expressions you know that the baby you know says google gaga or whatever and everybody in the room claps and

35:15applauds and and they smile and the baby then smiles back and there's this there's this facial recognition interaction that's constantly going on hump freeze says her concern is that screens can unintentionally displace the frequency and the quality of of parent to infant exchanges this shared attention language input co-regulation she says these things support early learning and they also support later mental health they're imperative we cannot go without them and so is it not just that the screen is causing specific areas of the brain to mature faster but it's also replacing these very important moments that infants babies need to be having with their parents moment-to-moment interactions help while your brain systems involved in attention emotional

36:20regulation and these of course as we have already said they're still forming during infancy the related work from the same Singapore team has highlighted how screens are only one piece of a larger developmental picture this is interesting 2024 a study published in psychological medicine the same team found that shared interactive activities but between an infinite apparent may help to buffer the effects associated with with screen time children whose parents frequently read with them and showed or I'm sorry but children whose parents frequently read with them showed weaker associations between early screen exposure and later brain differences linked to emotional regulation so if if you're reading with your child you're interacting with them

37:23while they're still having some sort of screen time then those associations between the screen exposure and later anxiety or or later decision making those links tend to to lessen all right so what are the takeaways here talking singing reading cuddling playing outdoor time all of these activities provide the kind of rich real world experience that a baby's brain needs experiences that nothing on a screen can replicate nothing on the screen has the ability to reproduce these experiences now again we're not naive here we get it most families most parents are going to use screen sometimes it's just the nature but they're here they exist

38:29it's it's probably going to happen that in a moment you need little Sally to just be entertained for a second we get that but the recommendation and keeping the screen exposure low whatever possible or avoiding screens as a default way to sue with or distract babies is it it's important recommendation to follow if we default to the screen to sue the child or distract them if that becomes our go-to then that habit loop is going to be tough to break for babies under 18 months the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends avoiding screens other than video chatting after 18 months parents who choose to introduce screens are encouraged to watch together and help the child understand what they're seeing and limit use to no more than an hour a day

39:31and this article both experts emphasize the same bottom line that early relationships being present responsive and playful remain the the absolute foundation of of healthy development so there it is intriguing this is a very intriguing longitudinal study out of Singapore that it has tracked the same individuals 160 plus I think again from from birth to 13 tracking their their their screen use tracking their their brain scans tracking their emotional behavior and and what they are finding is it's something that we need to pay attention to now again is it conclusive cause and effect the experts are going to say no but it's something that cannot be ignored it is very it is very very revealing all right more interesting facts about this thing

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44:58Goo Goo Gaga and peekaboo and and and and this playtime where they're smiling and laughing and and we are smiling and laughing at them and we're acknowledging what they're doing and we're acknowledging what they're saying and it's just this this is really ultimately how the brain unfolds and it unfolds naturally and it unfolds it unfolds slowly and oftentimes in this case slowly is the fastest way now we're not saying you know don't use screens I think ultimately the child is better off if we don't use screens but we get there are times where the screen is is where we think it's necessary we're not that naive but do you know how Steve Jobs handled it essentially the creator of the screen what did he do in in 2010 a New York Times reporter

46:02having a conversation with with Steve Jobs essentially asked this this this this very question Nick built it was his name the name of the reporter and in this conversation with Jobs here in 2010 he said your kids must love the iPad right and this was right after the launch of the iPad and this guy said your kids are gonna love this I mean they their bedrooms are probably stockful of iPad they probably get their choice of which color or which blah blah blah blah and Steve Jobs just simply said you know they haven't used it he said we limit the amount of technology our children use it home they haven't used it this man is its creator the creator of the iPad and Nick built him from the New York Times said your kids must love the iPad right and jobs

47:05says no they don't love it they don't use it any special reason according to Walter Isaacson the author of Steve Jobs biography what's the special reason here that that your kids don't don't use technology Isaacson said the family focused more on history at home Steve Jobs focus more on reading as well as activities and perhaps even activities that had to do with technology but not the technology itself here's how Walter Isaacson explained it he said every night Steven insisted on dining at the big kitchen table talking about books talking about history and talking about a variety of other things nobody ever took out an iPad nobody ever took out a computer the kids didn't seem addicted to the devices well the kids didn't have access to the devices that's why they didn't seem addicted to it and what was what was Steve Jobs talking

48:09about with them was talking about books it was talking about history the Steve Jobs was probably taking his kids to a nightly history class around the dinner table not allowing them to to access the technology not allowing them to tap into the technology not allowing them to go down the technological road no and instead let's talk about history let's talk about books let's let's talk about activities let's talk about our day how is your day dear you know we kind of we have this joke in my house where we all just how is your day dear and then we just you know talk about our day but that's how we started I mean it's not really a joke it's just some stupid we do a large number of CEO was apparently and prominent figures of Silicon Valley apparently significantly reduced the time that their children spent in in regard to technology

49:11Bill Gates didn't give his children cell phones until they were 14 years old additionally he didn't allow them to to have it during lunch during dinner or right before bed sorry kids you're going to bed in an hour shut off that phone or you know we're eating dinner or we're having lunch don't we're going to put this stuff away um according to the authors of the book screen schooled several former employees of tech tech companies also do the same they say that it it it hampers creativity and it limits social relationships and so they they they don't allow their kids to use the devices so what do they know that we don't know is the question um many people who have or or had to do anything with technological development restricted to use at

50:14home uh Tristan Harris has a former Google exec he warned of the tricks that websites like Facebook or YouTube used to hold our attention without us even noticing it in 2020 the net the Netflix documentary called the social dilemma caused a fear by revealing how social networks work and how they make us addicted and there's a particular phrase that stands out in the film there are two industries that call their customers users the two industries are illegal drugs and software users that's what we are to them we're users and it seems that Steve Jobs saw this coming the film the the Netflix the Netflix film here describes the addiction and negative impacts of social networks and our daily life which apparently is closely linked to the devices with which we interact

51:18additionally testimonials in the film explain how social media companies play with our our emotions play with our our behaviors and various studies indicate that addiction to screens leads to these problems and apparently this study out of Singapore is very similar but yet uh you know but again I get it maybe this isn't causation but is it is certainly something that we've got to look into it's something that we absolutely have to explore if we don't explore it then um we are going to be uh we're going to be left in the lurch wondering what in the world happened what in the world did we uh what were we thinking how did we allow this uh how did we allow this to unfold without paying attention to uh baby screen times and how it might be linked to brain

52:19maturation which again is not a good thing that our that our brain should be maturing so so readily so so quickly my friend slowly is often the fastest way and the brain has to mature the way the brain has to mature it's it's got to go through its processes it's got to go through its cycles and and and every single part of those processes has everything to do with parental interaction the way we interact with our children as they are infant as they are babies uh absolutely means everything there's another study that I want to get into maybe don't have time to get into it today perhaps tomorrow we will we will dive into this but um this study is out of the children's hospital Philadelphia and they uh the the the plan of the study was to look at science behind perhaps what's the right age for a child to to have a phone

53:25what is it i mean Bill Gates said he didn't give a phone away until they were 14 and you know when the question was posed to Steve Jobs well your kids just love the uh the iPad don't they and Jobs was like yeah they don't have one they they don't have access to this technology and it is altogether probable that perhaps the right age to pass along this this type of technology is when the brain is fully mature now we know the brain doesn't fully mature until 25 that's what we're told so uh that's probably not an option is it sorry Johnny you don't get your cell phone until you're 25 uh that's not going to work but I don't know I question middle school I don't think middle school is is an appropriate age I just don't at maybe at some point in high school and maybe you give them a flip phone oh you would not hear the end of it if

54:29you gave them a flip phone but dear all my friends you have the iPhone all my friends have the give the galaxy whatever you would not hear the end of it that's the that's the day and time we live in my friends that that's the age it's the age that we live in so we're we're going to dive into this study perhaps tomorrow and and ask the question well when when is it when is the best age I can tell you what the best age to go to history classes that that's that's right day one that is the best age go to history class at day one go to it early and often make sure that you're you're talking to them about about good stories let that be the conversation at dinner time stories from the great books from the great philosophers from from the great minds of the ages and the important thing is this how can you tell the stories if you don't know them yourself so

55:30guess what guess what you've got to do you've got some homework that's right you have homework assignments you've got to do some reading yourself I don't like to read hard work well you got to learn to like it matter of fact you got to learn to love it just just learn to just take it in so you can tell the stories yeah you know read to your kids we we talk about that around here all the time reading them start out with the hearty boy books that that that was our place that was our starting point that was our springboard our diving board was frank and joe hearty ah such a good times I would do it all over again I would do it exactly the way I did it and I would start with frank and joe hearty I might throw in some others though that I missed along the way you know probably but look at the point is interact with them if they got to have a cell phone fine but interact with them dominate their screen time with your face time with just

56:34you and them all right my friends that's all the time we have for today thank you for joining us I'm so happy you're a part of this audience thank you for being here with us encourage your friends and family to get on the Dean's List let's unite to renovate the age