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Has America’s era of global dominance come to an end? Michael contrasts two very different assessments of U.S. power—one arguing that the “American Age” is over, and another saying the shining city has dimmed but remains formidable. From Trump, NATO and immigration to energy, China and America’s standing abroad, Michael lays out the debate and hears from listeners across the country. Original air date 17 September 2026. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Ditch the clowns on the left. And the jokers on the right. And join Michael Smirconish right here in the middle. This is the Smirconish podcast for independent minds. A question. Has America's era of global dominance ended or good? Has it ended for good? Today is day 200 of the closure of the Strait of Hormuz. How can that be possible? 200 days. 200 days. Before the war, 85 ships a day went through the waterway over the weekend. Eight. War risk insurance on a super tanker now running at about $10 million per voyage. Brent Crude this morning sitting at $106 a barrel. And then last week the Saudis lost their backup plan. The East West pipeline 750 miles across the kingdom. One route that let them move Crude around the blockade and out of the Red Sea.

Then hit by Iran back militias operating out of Iraq. I know your head spins. It's a lot to keep track of. The Saudis asked for help. The president said the Houthis don't want to fight with us and he passed. So keep that in mind because it's the backdrop for two different essays that I have in the newsletter today that I want to summarize for you because I even put them side by side in order in the newsletter today. The first of them I read in the Atlantic the headline, you know, pretty bold. The American age is over. And it's written by a guy named Philip Pason O'Brien. He's an American. He's a professor of strategic studies at the University of St Andrews in Scotland. He's a guy who has written in the past about how Churchill and Roosevelt and Stalin and Mussolini and Hitler made war. But I guess what I would tell you is he's spent his academic career studying how great powers rise and fall.

And he says it's over for us. Here's the opening. The American age that followed World War II was bound to and eventually end and to end eventually. What's shocking is how suddenly that moment has arrived in the past six months. America's power long exemplified by the world's best war fighting equipment and most highly trained military personnel. A global network of bases and logistics systems and military and diplomatic partnerships with all corners of the world has proved insufficient to defeat Iran. A repressive, economically stagnant regime armed with cheap missiles and drones. And his evidence is what just happened to our bases. I had in the newsletter yesterday a photo montage. I forget the outlet. It may have been the daily mail of the damage that was done to our bases. It was it was significant in the first two weeks of fighting in March 17 American bases.

Air defense sites and diplomatic facilities were hit among them. The fifth fleet headquarters in Bahrain. That's the place that the Navy has relied on for decades to resupply ships in the Middle East. It's a town hall he discusses in this Atlantic peace where recently a sailor asks the chief of naval operations whether he could go back and get his personal belongings or no when he could go back and get his personal belongings out of Bahrain. And the admiral's answer was we're not getting back in there anytime soon. I just want to be completely honest with that. Think about what that means, right? Our resupply line for the Persian Gulf now runs to Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean 2000 miles from the Strait of Hormuz, which is why the Abraham Lincoln was at sea so long that the families were raising the alarms and we talked about that. Our stockpiles are now diminished. I could go on and on and on, but this is the argument made in the Atlantic about our diminished influence and his larger point is about what's underneath all that that we built this military around what he calls exquisite systems advanced exquisite systems which worked against insurgents but don't work against a country that can mass produce cheap drones.

You get the, I mean, I could go on and on and on, but that's the that's the summarizing that's my summarizing of what this story is and something I would throw into the mix also in the newsletter today. You've got Canada aligning with the EU. All examples of diminished US influence and he closes by saying the American age has come to an end. US global dominance cannot continue without the power sources that brought it about. Okay, again, that's me summarizing what's in the Atlantic. It's in the newsletter. I just I think laid it out for you to straightforward fashion, but it is a piece arguing that the American age is over by Phillips, Pason, O'Brien. Now here's the companion that I want you to think about. This is the companion piece and it was written by a friend friend of mine Robert rock Bob rock is the chair of MLR holdings. They publish directors and boards. It's a Philadelphia based magazine that's been the Bible of corporate governance since 1976. My friend Bob has three Harvard degrees. It's two more than TC, including a doctorate.

Including a doctorate in business. Okay, he's the former chair and CEO of the Hey group long time corporate director pen mutual Quaker, howton among others. He's the smartest member of my book club. I'm in a book club of 20 years with some accomplished people. Bob is the guy like we go around that we really do read the books. We really do discuss them. We also eat and drink, although not Bob. He doesn't drink. But we all sort of hang on his every word when he summarizes the book because he's just brilliant. I mean when he was at the Harvard business with this alone doesn't make him brilliant. This just makes the story interesting. But when he was at the Harvard business school because they would see alphabetically he sat next to Mitt Romney. That's right. Right. Rock Romney. So Bob's Bob is really, really smart. He's really, really smart and directors and boards. People who are on boards of directors when I was invited to be on points of light. The board of directors. I called Bob and I said Bob I need to know more about my responsibilities.

And so immediately I became a subscriber of directors and boards. Okay. Bob also spends a large part of his summers in the South of France. As a matter of fact he has one does as this one does. And he and Carol have invited my wife and me you know summer after summer we've never been able to make it work. You know how we are. But sooner or later we're going to couldn't stay sooner or later we're going to get see it's not just you like we've been invited to the South of France. I'm not going to invite to the South of France. I'm just driving an hour and a half to the short neck. I can't possibly. Can I get back to this. So Bob has just published his own column. The shining city on a hill. Okay. Let's take a look. When I let when I read the Atlantic piece like it's over Johnny for the United States. Now I read Bob's piece and I'm like I got to present this to the audience. Okay. So here's the way he begins. He says as we have done for the past 37 years. Carol and I spend part of our time in the South of France. Once again I am writing my directors and boards column from the vantage point of my European neighbors. We live in a gated community of 80 houses owned by families from around the world. Roughly half from France a third from the rest of Europe. A handful from the more distant countries, including Singapore, Lebanon and Canada. When our international community was established in the 1960s. There were many Americans. But now we are one of two families.

Who come from the United States. Our neighbors are keenly interested in America and generally in general and Donald Trump in specific. Their interest is not new but has been greatly heightened by what they perceive to be a quote dangerous quote unpredictable quote reckless president. No longer considered a trusted ally. Trump's America is viewed as necessary. But unreliable partner whose relationship is transactional. Rather than based on shared values and rules based order in its May 2026 survey the European Council on foreign relations found that only one in 10 Europeans regard the United States as an ally. Rather than continually dwell on his dictatorial style and his unilateral approach and his despicable character. These are all in quotes meaning these are things that Bob's wealthy neighbors from around the globe, largely in France, say about Trump.

Right. Rather than hear that. This year, Carol and I decided to turn the tables by asking our neighbors whether there is anything they like about President Trump and his policies. We wanted to find out if our neighbors saw anything good about Trump's America. After much poking and prodding many of them offered up some positives, particularly when prompted about four policies, namely defense, immigration, energy and the economy. So here's what Bob says on defense, they appreciated, they conceived grudgingly that he was right about some things on defense that he took NATO into that he shook NATO into finally paying for its own protection against Russia. On immigration that his talk about borders resonates with Europeans who worry about their own borders on energy, they criticize how we got there. I'm paraphrasing Bob's words, they criticize how we got there and they envy that we are independent.

On the economy, they look at our consumer spending, our capital investment and our stock market and they see nothing like it at home. And one more number that surprised me even after the largest decline of any country, the United States is still ranked first in the world in overall soft power. Still first in technology, in science, in universities, in entertainment, in sports, in global companies, and space. Here's Bob's verdict in one line, the shining city has dimmed. That's a reflection of Reagan's words. Remember Reagan, the shining city. The shining city has dimmed but has not entirely disappeared. And then he offers a prescription aimed at his readers. Remember my friend Bob's readers are members of corporate boards. He says American companies can do what Washington isn't doing. Make the best products, respect local markets, hire the world's talent, behave like good citizens abroad through their decisions he writes, they can help rebuild America's standing abroad and help restore America's image as the shining city as a hill.

So there it is one writer an academic who says it's over the American age is over the hardware is gone the bases are gone the allies are hedging no election fixes on a shipbuilding industry that took 40 years to hollow out. The other says lights have dimmed but they're still on. We're still first the world still buys what we make still sends its kids to our schools still watches our movies. And some of the people writing us off admit when pressed they trade places with us in a heartbeat. What do you think and and one of the thing about about my friend Bob because here's the way that he closes his essay I want to say it before you call and you say it Bob writes the following Bob writes the following in general. My neighbors have some positive views of America of course he acknowledges 80 affluent owners of villas. In a gated community in the south of France are hardly a representative sample of Europeans they are well educated they are well traveled they are well informed and they seem to genuinely like Americans and admire America.

However most detest president Trump which survey show is the overwhelming view of the vast majority of Europeans. So so Bob is is not here to tell you that this is like a representative sample that he's bringing. But it's a very informed perspective from and Bob Bob is not I don't want to speak for Bob I wish Bob were here but I don't want to characterize his politics but you would be wrong. I think I should say this you'd be wrong if you if you assumed based on what I told you that he's an acolyte of Donald Trump he's not. He's a really smart guy who is saying that for all the criticism and the personal animus directed toward Trump when pressed his European neighbors acknowledge there's a hell of a lot going well for the United States. So there you go it's a tale of two cities it's it's the academic in the Atlantic who says the American age is over.

And it's my friend Bob saying that Trump's worst personal critics would trade places with us. And now I invite you to call. Both essays are in the newsletter today both essays are in the newsletter today. This is the Smirconish podcast from Sirius XM. If you like YouTube you'll love YouTube Premium. Hi I'm Sean Evans from Hot Ones and I want to tell you about YouTube Premium. It has offline downloads so you can watch without Wi-Fi. Background Play. So you can lock your phone and it still plays baby. Oh and it is completely ad free. Yes I said it ad free. Try YouTube Premium for two months free at youtube.com slash premium. Trial eligibility varies. Terms apply. Cancel anytime. Gang I am ditching the script for quince because there's something I want to tell you that isn't in the script and it's this. I used to spend a lot of money on sweaters. I didn't have a lot of sweaters but I spent a lot of money on sweaters and I have a moth problem.

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Yes is Angus Maximus. This partner has one pound of a pound of hot. Suzy cooked to order Angus sweet. It's more expensive than a quarter pounder. The burger is closed. And for only $5.99 even regular juice can afford it. Like that guy. Give me that big old burger. Yeah. He holds Angus Maximus. Only $5.99 is whole senior. A bill for a limited time of participating restaurants. Tax not included. Not valid for use within a combo or in combination with any other offer or discount. The Michael smirkkanish program. Listen weekdays at 9 E.M. East on POTUS. Sirius XM channel 124. And anytime on the Sirius XM app. So in the category of stuff that you can't make up, I just got an email from my friend Larry, who's in Greece. My buddy Larry's size. Does he know the rules? He does. And here's Larry's email. Just sent to me. On this topic. My experience. Exactly.

So I'm sure Larry's neighbors in Greece. They hate Trump. Like Bob and Carrows neighbors in France. They use words like dangerous, unpredictable, reckless. So Bob and Carrow in France. Yes, in a wealthy gated community. I made that very clear. You can take the demographic into consideration. Not that Bob and Carrow are Trump acolytes. They're not. They're just very intelligent people. Both of them, and they wanted to stimulate conversation. So they said they decided to turn the tables and ask their neighbors, well, is there anything you like about Trump and his policies? Quote, a large majority of our neighbors credit president Trump for awakening Europe to the necessity of assuring its own defense. His continual harangs about European nations free riding under the American security umbrella have gotten them to step up their commitment to funnado. And with Russian troops looming at their doorstep Europeans

have finally come to the realization that they must rebuild their armed forces. Further along, most of our neighbors law Trump for his swift and effective closure of the US Southern border. They wish their political leaders had the courage to secure their country's border. I'm feeling CNN commentary coming on right now. They worry Europe is being invaded by immigrants from Africa and the Middle East, and they are fearful of losing their cultural heritage and national identity. Some of them think their country has already crossed the tipping point. Though complaining that his drill baby drill policy had harmed the environment, many praise President Trump for promoting American energy independence, which is provided on parallel political economic and strategic power. While in stark contrast, Europe led itself become dependent on unreliable energy suppliers. By the way, Bob's essay is in the newsletter today because right now I know a lot of you are like, well, I've got to read this. I'll give you one more.

Quite a few commend President Trump for I'm going to give you two more. For his pro growth, pro business, pro capital market policies, which have resulted in strong consumer spending, massive capital investment, and a record stock market performance. And then further along in Bob's essay, in addition to the issues of defense, immigration, energy, and the economy, some of our neighbors are beginning to acknowledge that Europe should follow America's lead in pushing back on DEI mandates, in pulling back on environmental regulations, and in striking back against Chinese exports. This is Melissa Melissa is in Alton, Illinois. What thoughts do you have on my friend Bob? Mine actually would have to do with the demographics. So things that they're seeing from the outside, the stock market, the, we're still number one, all that kind of stuff, it really points to the rich. It does not point to be everyday American.

So even though we're seeing like that from the outside, and they don't dislike Americans and they dislike him, they're not seeing it from our pocketbook, our regular pocketbook. Okay, some of this may be directed from that demographic, but wait a minute, when his neighbors say they like the fact that Trump pushed back on NATO because it's time for Europe to stand on their own two feet, on paraphrase, that's not a rich man, rich woman's comment, right? No, no, and they know what I do agree with that. How about this one? How about this one? Immigration, you know, they applaud Trump, they don't want to give him any credit, but they applaud him for effectively closing the US Southern border. That's not a rich person's concern. Well, I don't know, I disagree with you on that because first of all, we're losing a ton of workers, right? And do they realize how these people that are being thrown out are being treated?

How about the DEI? I know about all of them. Does that have anything, does DEI have anything to do with wealth? No, but I don't agree with that at all. Yeah, and by the way, I totally get that many will not agree with what these European neighbors of Bob and Caro are saying about Trump. And I think it has really, I think it has really been for them to be independent. But I'm only pushing back, I'm only pushing back on the idea that this is all driven from a wealthy demo. Some of that is that thought process, but it cuts across, but it cuts across. People that he has though are from a certain demographic. Right. Fully acknowledged, he tells you that. I'm in a gated community in the South of France. But what they're saying makes sense is what I'm arguing. That's the regular European either. No, no, and he knows that and he acknowledges that. But don't you have to concede at some level that there's truth in what they're offering, not everything.

But they like NATO being forced to stand on it. They like the fact that the border, which their own borders were closed. Yes. Yes. If Trump were not such a thing. The border issue for me is very complicated. God. All right, let me keep moving. I'm very appreciative of your call. Everybody wants to weigh in on this. Mike, go ahead. You're next. You're in Pennsylvania. What did you want to say? Hey, Mike. Thanks for having me on. First of all, I love your show. Thank you. I'm in perkacy. So I'm nearby you. Anyway. So my thought on this, because I am, I just like Trump up thoroughly. I'm a lifelong Republican now, independent. I think he's the wrong answer to the right questions. And that's not my term. I've heard that before. So if I look at the four categories that were put forth by your friend, and I'll look at, say, energy independence, yes, that is very important. But drill baby drills, not the answer.

We have plenty of drilling. It was, I think, you know, we could have an energy triad, right? We could have wind and solar, nuclear, and petrochemical superiority. He cut off two legs of that stool when he came into office just around petrochemical. And by the way, that's not really getting us anywhere when you look at the fact that our strategic petroleum reserve is at the bottom. Gas and diesel prices are absolutely through the roof. Costco's rationing oil. OK. Bob would say, Bob would say, maybe everything you've just said is true. But in contrast, Europe let itself become dependent on unreliable energy suppliers, particularly Russia and belatedly European nations have come to realize they need to develop their own resources, such as drilling in the crude rich North Sea and reviving their nuclear energy capability.

So as screwed up as it may be for us and for Trump, they're in a much worse position. They wish they were in our position. I 100% agree with that. And we are in a better position. Not because of Trump. We're actually, we're heading in the right direction due to the bipartisan infrastructure bill and other things that were put forth during the Biden administration. Question. Just because of moving quickly. If you could take the Trump policies without the Trump personality, would you take that deal? I give you Trump's policies without Trump. Not all of them, but some of them. Yeah, you can't disagree with. If you're disagreeing with 100% of what Trump puts forth in terms of policies just because they're from Trump, then you have Trump's arrangement syndrome. And that's the basis of that. OK. Fair enough. But if they were better implemented, it would be great for the country. Thank you, Mike.

Mike lives in perkasy. Perkasy is a beautiful farm, not as much as it used to be community. Carmen, you're in West Palm Beach. What did you want to say? I want you. Hi. Good morning, Eric. Why did you agree with the previous two colors? So one, I think unfortunately, they're describing too many things that America has been achieving for the last. I want to say 20, 30 years to Trump. It's not Trump. These things have been changing way before. Well, wait a minute. Hold it. Closing the border, closing the border, and telling NATO to pay up is totally Trump. No, that's Trump. But it's like you having a neighbor that all of a sudden gets the blimder and threatens to do all sorts of things. And then you say, oh my god, let me get 80 to you. I need to get cameras. I need to get rings. Maybe he's helping you get safer, but it's not like in a good way

that you had to transition to that point. And so what I'm getting at is this. I think both authors are kind of correct in a sense that I think the academic is talking from a governmental federal standpoint. I think the world has waken up to the fact that they can't trust the government of the United States to do always the right thing. And I think that has been a good thing. I think in that sense, the unintended positive consequences of having Trump is that it's awakened everybody to the fact that everybody was really relying on United States. I agree with that. That is true. Carmen, I got to run and leave it at that. But I thank you for the call. Again, hopefully you're a registered for the newsletter because this is the sort of content I most enjoy bringing to you. Side by side, in my newsletter today, go to smirkharnish.com and sign up from the Atlantic, the end of the American age.

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Phil, Madison, Wisconsin, your turn. Hi. Good morning, Michael. Basically, I'm thinking this is about empire. We're not dead yet by any means in the spirit of Monink Python. And the Europeans are figuring out that the Chinese are dumping all their cars on them right now. VW just announced that they're going to lay out potentially 50,000 people. The AFD just got a big share of boat in Germany. And they're kind of waking up like, well, wait a minute. We need to make stuff this whole green energy thing. They shut down their nuclear power. And they realize it costs of energy is going sky high. So they're kind of in the same boat as us. And I think it's a big push. What's going on worldwide? What's the bottom line? I'm not understanding your bottom line. What is your bottom line? It's us against China. And China wants to be the big dog in the block. And we're not going down with a fight. OK. And what about my friend Bob's neighbors

who are French and European and hate Trump but are envious of what he's achieving? Right. Somebody has got all bosses or assholes just somewhere better than others, ask T.C. And he's on an asshole. Not together. I don't like Trump's barvado. It's a New York thing. It doesn't rub well in the Midwest. It doesn't well. You know, intellectual people can't handle it. But if you're hanging on the garage with me and on your car port, we talk like the real world. And China's after us. I mean, let's be honest. They are. I certainly agree. And in an artificial intelligence world, it concerns me greatly. OK. Ron is a Pennsylvania. Ron, what did you want to say? Hi. Yeah, Michael. A couple of things. I think both of these people or both of these points of view are can be right at the same time. The question is, I spend a lot of time in Europe

and I can tell you categorically, the countries that I visit, including France, there is great concern for how Trump's policies are affecting them as countries and individuals. The price of fuel has gone almost double in like the Netherlands and other places. These are the kinds of pocketbook issues that affect the markets, but times too. So the other thing that I'm concerned about is giving Trump credit for anything that he's done. I understand your point about the border. I think it was necessary. But his methodology is in everything he approaches is with a hammer. Of course. I agree. Yeah. I'm not going to defend any of that. Yeah. Yeah. But the point is that your friends, your elite friends,

I'm late at, in France, they see the effectiveness, but they don't see the price that our country is paying because of quote his effectiveness. No, I think they do. That's why I think they regard him as to Bob's quotation reference, dangerous, unpredictable, reckless, they get all that we understand. But from a distance, they're saying, because of the result. So how upset about it are they really? I mean, that's my point. It sounds like it's a point. It's a point where we get, yeah, it's a point where we get the result at a wet price. I mean, we're traditionally a country of values and high expectations. And that's not the way we've done business. And I know you agree with that. But if you're on the island, I look at the way we've treated Canada. It's absolutely a problem. Yeah, it's horrible. Michael Smirconish for independent minds.

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