Interview with a Fully Conscious UFO Contact Part Six: FLIGHT SCHOOL!

0:00Hello everyone, my name is Preston Dennett and welcome to a new episode of UFOs in the paranormal. And as you can see, I've got a very special episode today where we're doing another interview with Dolly Safrin, the subject of my book Symmetry, A True UFO Adventure. We've already done a number of really interesting interviews, five in fact, where we've talked about how her experiences began as a little girl in Florida in the Everglades, where she had a lot of contact moving all the way up to age 14, where she had her first fully conscious onboard experience. And we've talked about the different types of ET's she's seen, the photographic evidence she's gotten, some of the places, the worlds that she's visited. We've covered quite a bit in these previous five interviews, but this is number six, and I call this one.

1:01Interview with a fully conscious UFO contactee, Park Six Flight School. That's right, we're going to be talking about how Dolly was given the opportunity to learn how to fly these craft, and her experiences with being tested with that, trained with that, learning how to do it the first time, and some of the many adventures she's had with this. As you may know, if you've looked into some of my other YouTube episodes or read some of my books, this is not unique, people aren't taught how to fly these craft, but Dolly's experiences with this are really extensive, certainly the most extensive and detailed that I've ever had the opportunity to hear about. So we're just going to do a deep dive into that, and we're going to learn some new stuff that's not in the book, because that always happens every time I talk to you Dolly. So first of all, let me just introduce you, this is Dolly Safran.

2:01Thanks so much for coming on to the show again. Welcome, I'm glad to be here, thank you for the opportunity. Hey, honor is mine. Yeah, I'm excited Dolly because yeah, your experiences with all of this are so amazing. And I have heard it before, but not to the detail that you've provided. So I thought we would just start with, you know, your experience at age 14, 1973, I think it was. Yes. And they asked you, you know, how do you want to work with us? Is there anything you're particularly interested in? And you said, yes, I would love to learn how to fly these craft, not really even expecting that they would say yes. So I thought we would just start there and have you describe, you know, what that was like when they said yes and how they tested you, because we did go into a little bit in the book.

3:01Yes, you know, some of the seat, let's do it. It was a whole involved process of learning, you know, first of all, seeing if you were even qualified or guess her and have the. But yeah, the capability to do it. So yeah, how did that unfold when you basically. After that, and yeah, after that initial session with them, they gave me about two weeks to prepare myself, because it wasn't going to be an ordinary contact. I was going to be physically checked out physically and mentally. And so the next time I was on board, I was given several physicals and mental checkups. They were looking basically at my the neurology of my brain, whether my synapse were in good condition. And if I was wired well to my own body, my own body plays a significant role in this how I react to things, what my reflexes are capable of doing and how much I'm capable of handling in an experience that could potentially be critical.

4:14And how I would react to that, my body, they wanted to know that I was physically fit enough to endure when I was about to learn. And they checked everything on my heart, my lungs, my muscles, my everything, all of it. This took them about two, three weeks. At the end of that, I was brought back up and sat down and it was explained to me that I did meet the their standards. And then the next set of tests were basically psychic after that, they needed to know how well developed I was, how much they were going to be investing in. I was reaching me to employ fully employ my abilities and work with another psychically to link up with and whether I was compatible with this entity or not, now would have been to our. It's a lot of being the ship. The entity. Yes. And so that I got a month.

5:16And that was very extensive work that they did with me. Before we get before we move beyond that, I'm going to dive a little deeper into that because here's a question I have. They're talking to you psychically, telepathically the whole time. Right. There's a lot of that sort of stuff going on when you're on board is, would you say your abilities are more in tune or more. How would I put it enhanced when you're on craft as opposed to being here on earth? Are you activating it more? Are you using it more? Not an enhancement as much as it is that I am psychic. I can't hear them. And they pretty much take over the conversation. They're, they're, they're psychically coming on to me and hearing what I have to say. I'm not similarly broadcasting fully to them yet. And they wanted to see how well I was able to employ myself, my own abilities, so that they heard me on my own. And there was a little bit of work that I had to do with that. I was already broadcasting so that they could hear me, but it wasn't as quick or

6:22the communication level has to be even. In other words, I had to learn language. I had to learn custom. I had to learn how they react to things. It's a mutual two way street and that I had to become one and communion with them. And that took a little bit of work. That was one of the first things that they taught me in my training was to bring that level of my understanding them up. And once I reached that and I was comfortable with them, then, then the next phase of training began. And that would be linking with Talata. When I, okay. I was linking with Talata and required my ability to remote you. There's a second level of remote viewing that most people don't realize that they're capable of doing. And that is, I'm able to remote view to a source of space and enjoying with Talata and that space. It's an electromagnetic field. It was an electromagnetic field.

7:23We literally allow ourselves to enjoy mentally. And I become him and he becomes me. And even though my body is autonomously still operating on its own. I'm enjoying with him. And what happens to me when that happens is, I feel what he feels. I see what he sees. And when he's in craft, indwelling in craft with me, that way, I become the craft with him. I can feel it move. I can feel what's outside of it. My eyesight no longer operates independently through my own eyes. I see through his eyes and the craft systems eyes. I feel with the system all of it. That's why the craft is basically an organic entity itself because it has to neurologically. I'm joined up with the entity operated just like I'm enjoying my body and my brain to operate this entity here in my physical being. I become that with him on craft.

8:24This makes sense to me because this is exactly what Julia that's a pseudonym told me. I think I wrote about her book and her story in my book, One Dress. There was a chapter in there about her, which was called a gray alien named Sen. And she said when she hooked up telepathically with him, he was in his ship and she could see through his eyes. Everything he experienced, she experienced in vice versa. And that's when he started doing all these maneuvers. She could see it. She was like she was actually there. I think through his eyes. So that would be an advanced form of remote viewing, I guess, or linking up. Linking. Yes. Remote to link. Yes. And once I chewed that, the next phase of my training was understanding how the craft itself is built and works and operates. And I had to learn a lot of mathematics. I had to learn what the type of fusion that they were using to use this element that they burned to create a ravita on wave.

9:29And once I understood that that's part of what's happening to me while I'm in with Talata is I can feel that all working. And I can feel that all over the energy of the craft. I have control over where we're going and directional. And I help open light gates. It takes the two of us together to open a light gate. So the next thing I learned after that was the craft itself and how it operates. And I got that I was on board with him and I learned the basics of movement in the craft. I had to learn direction and I had to learn speeds. How to maneuver how I physically was enjoined in this craft and it became an extension of my mental body. And I was helping to steer it with my own mind. I was helping to slow it down or lower or raise it or go skip. I was learning what it felt like to have electromagnetic fields around me and the fields that were so, you know, that was surrounding me and

10:40I was assuming what the fields that we were encountering when we're in, inside in a magnetosphere on a planet, the electromagnetic guidelines are field lines of that planet how they are and they're all a little bit different. Yeah, they're not all exactly the same. But you feel them you see them and I learned to see. It's almost like a heads up display, but it's a lot of showing me in real time, the lines themselves. I can see the energy of them through his eyes, because he's more advanced than I am. He absolutely sees them and reacting to them. They move suddenly, they shift suddenly, they rise or lower suddenly. This is not a fixed system inside this magnetosphere with these guidelines there. It's like being on the ocean and about, you have to learn to pilot with the movement of these lines and negative or positive. Storms can change it. The Sun itself can cause problems. The Sun can shoot off a flare or incoming a coronal, you know, winds can shift them. It's like being an entire environment that you here don't see here or smell, but we do on craft this way because they're that advanced.

11:57Yeah, we talked about this in the book where you actually went to their planet and learned with some other pilots as well. Yes, in a classroom environment where they went over and over and over. Yes, different scenarios and different ways. Magnetic fields and gravitational lines and all that stuff works. There's a corollary to this highlights here who are surfing the air, you know, they're flying on on top of the air in a fixed wing vehicle. It's not the same as an electromagnetic environment that I'm in, but there is an electromagnetic component to a pilot's life in the seat while they're flying this planet. They also have pockets of dead air, they have turbulence, everything and they have to join up with that and their reflexes play 100% into that. They learn to feel things and see them and know when things are coming in and encompassing them. And so there are tactics, quite tactics. So I learned to with these students when this is happening, you do this. So when this is happening in drop or when you'll lose in a guideline, you go straight up, you get out of there.

13:08Okay, you have to have the reflexes to do that. Sometimes people see you, if those dancing around in the sky and like, what the hell is going on? That's what's going on. They've got a lot happening to them while they're up there. And if you see them dancing or doing weird things, the nut is like putting on a show to you is that they're surfing this and they're having to stay, you know, so this explains this motion that we see, like, yes, right. Around us. Yes. The pendulum movement as well or phone. We feel yeah, there's some to that. There is a earth itself, he's and breeds itself and it can shoot up electromagnetic energy from its core and it'll heave out and you can feel it or drop. You feel that as well. It's amazing. It's very much like being on the ocean very much or in the air flying a regular airplane. We made an interesting point to me once that said we're not actually flying in the traditional sense that they don't call it flying. Is that right?

14:14It's just skipping the skiff. We skipped magnetic energy. Any more I wanted to wonder if you could describe a little bit about the seat you sit in because is that seat normally designed for grace and how does it fit you and I mean you drew it. It's all to us. It's a lot of can alter the seat to fit anybody who sits in it tall, short, heavy, whatever. And it's what I drew is how I fit the seat that looks like for me. The first time I ever sat down to when it was still for a great and he hadn't changed it yet and they realized, oh, get a fix the chair for her. It was kind of funny. I was like, well, I don't think this is going to work. I have two pads under my feet and they are to stop me from electromegnetically charging. It's like a fair day cage under my feet.

15:15I have a field around me and this is a very big craft and the smaller craft we almost have a real fair day cage about us. It's a field and it protects us from being electrocuted. That means death. If you're electrocuted, you would die. And so it stops me from doing that. I also wear nothing that will cart anything that suit that I wear is. Text me from that and my hair is not down like this. I'm it's totally tightly. There's a gel that I put in it that helps not conduct a lecture so you're static over me. It's your radio ponytail. Did they give you a gel kind of thing or is that so? It's a gel type of gel. Yeah, watch this out easy, but it protects me from charging. Is my question they give you an actual gel to put in her? That's. Oh, wow. So they give you an actual flight suit and gel. That's very interesting.

16:15Alright, so is the seat comfortable? It's I mold into it and it will adjust to me as I'm flying. Like if I was to drop suddenly and I come back down, I'm held in it somehow. It keeps me into it. So I don't break contact with it because to do that would shoot me with electricity you can believe. So the seat holds on to me. There's a let me go. It's so comfortable. But if I have a back egg Monday, it'll pop up my. It'll puff up behind my lumbar spine and give me a little lumbar support. It knows the craft knows. I mean, what you're connecting mentally up with it. It feels what I feel anyway. So it's correcting for me all the time. It's a very good ride. It also helps my circulation. I don't get. You know, you set that hard and flat on something for a long time. You can develop problems and your circulation to your legs. And it's.

17:15The age to help me my blood flow to my legs. Going, you know, I have good circulation in the chair. No, it's me of no portion of this wall experience where he actually, you know, left the, I guess you called the exam room went on the corridor turned one direction or another. I think it was right into this other little room, which as he got to the center became transparent all around. I saw these stars and there was a chair and he sat down and there was these little knobs and buttons and start pressing them stars were moving around and I'm wondering are there any buttons or knobs on the seat that you were in. What if presented itself to him by the pilot. It's something that he was familiar with. Help him understand to try it. Words. He was mentally connecting with the craft per se, but the craft gave him the opportunity to do something that felt familiar to him to teach him that he could do these things without.

18:20That kind of thing when human beings gone bored and they see things like that. It's basically the craft accommodating them. It's not necessary for the craft operate that way. They really used them. For humans. I thought that because. I'm very aching there because when you went on at age 14 and you actually got to fly that for some they gave you a little sort of joystick device or a little one. And it's about that line. It's about white and it tapers down and touch you can feel it kind of vibrates in your hand. And it connected my consciousness with Talata so that I could join with him without knowing how it was really cool. So after going through all this, you know, learning and then sort of testing. You actually got to sit down next to was it the a i grades or. And I had a tall gray with me who was a pilot also.

19:23And began the process of actually learning how to employ what I have learned. It's like becoming a. You know, you're going to become a surgeon. You have to get in there. You know, it's all hand-eye motor coordination linking up mentally to physical use. Please. You just learn to employ it often over and over and over until it becomes. And habit. Even thinking about it. And just do it without even thinking now. It took a while to do that. I think it's a little bit there's. There's two different things going on here when you fly a craft right there's. What I guess you call interplanetary travel. And I'm trying outside the magnetosphere. Alright. So is that differentiated from the beginning? Are you learning both? Interest. I have to learn both to operate because we mostly try when we travel, we like it between.

20:25We're going to come in where a stellar and a stellar. We even. Very close to a planet. Way back out. And then we fly in and you have to transition into their magnetosphere. And into their atmosphere. You know, it takes a little bit of doing how to do that because we're changing the way the ship is operating. Going from a nuclear. And then we're changing the energy source to battery. What's we coming in magnetosphere we change over the batteries because it's too hot. You can take what we were driving with in. On you it's too hot. We're talking over 7,000 degrees outside the craft alone. We're even. And it's so bright you couldn't look at it. Learn your car. So are you hearing any noise when this is all going on? Here outside the ship with a lot of so yes I can hear.

21:25Density. In other words, we don't really fly. We don't have a we don't react to the air mass that we're in. It's nothing. But I can hear. Things operating around me that are coming in at us. We're doing a lot of things. Frequency level that are electronic from this planet. It's incredible. This is a very chatty place. There's a lot going on here. And we can actually hear it. Is this coming off this planet and clicking. Jumping. That kind of thing. We hear TV sometimes we do all kinds of things music. It just depends on where we're at what we're doing. A lot of us going to allow. To come in. We're trying to be able to see the sky. I can see the sky coming down here. I can see the sun rising to the signals that I'm hearing. Okay. So when you're flying over planet, do you have like displays that show.

22:26Like the magnetic fields or. You know what I mean? Little temperatures. Mental heads up display that comes down before me mentally. You're exploring in your atmosphere, I can see whales swimming in the sea. There are different levels of density that I'm looking at. We avoid coming in contact with those as we fly. It's a very, very populated place here. Don't we have to be careful how it comes through? We're not in the business of destroying technology that belongs to somebody else. So it's a concentrated effort to come down safely. That's another reason you see it as exactly. Many reasons why they do it because they're avoiding objects. They come in. Oh wow. So did a lot of your training take place here in Earth's atmosphere or other places as well? Yes, and take a good at it. Definitely being trained here as well, yes. Okay, so you're sitting next to these grays, I guess, a tall, would you say medium-gray and AI-gray? Great, AI-gray and a tall-gray. Alright, and but third, that ones were actually in the pilot seat at this point.

23:28And you're just linking up with the pilot? At the beginning, once I became proficient at flying, I had, to a lot of it, I had the ability to stop me from doing something stupid. He can control the craft at well. And so they allowed me a seat and just watched me, watched me through the whole thing. I have many mistakes during my training. I have learned the hard way every time. Not to the point that I crashed or caused me but any problems. But yeah, I had a few close calls. They taught me a great deal. Don't do that yet. Pay attention. Don't lose focus. I'm accused of being a very serious person on the time and it's the training that I've had. I can be very, very single-mindedly pointed. You along with it and that's my training at work. I can't help myself. That's the way I am. It was taught to me. So, you know, this went on from age 14 up to age 19 before you actually got to sit down

24:32and do it yourself. I own that's correct. Yes. Can you describe that first time in what it was like? Because you said there's an energy ball. People talk about the little purse that you see in the Anunnaki carrying. It was part of my training. I called and all that. So I connected to that. It's the source where I connect with Talata. It's an electromagnetic. Definitely you do. It stands. It's about this big. It's more than a baseball. It looks metal. I'm not positive 100% what kind of metals are employing it, but it's electromagnetic. It gains a power source in it's seed. And when I initialize that I have a. I'm going to put it in my hand. And turn on and it. It's alive. When you see those hair lifts and you see the watch with the days in it, you know, or whatever it is that God, that's their key. I was implanted.

25:33And. Looks stupid walking around and watch like that all the time. So mine was implanted in my hand. They decided it was better off in my hand. And. I have a purse. Just like the ones that you see on the pilot. And then I open my purse. It doesn't exactly look like that. That's a beautiful representation of it. Mine's a little bit more. Sick than that. And they open it up and I take the ball out with my hand this hand. And while it's in my hand, I make the connection to it. I hold it across my chest. And then it's all. And there's a. Arm that comes up on the other side with an electromagnetic hook. And one time, initialize the ball. It. It leaves my hand on its own. It definitely jumps out. And then it expands and expands. And it'll come up to that hook. It's about this far from the hook at all times, but it's there. And it's a space and like for magnetic field space.

26:33And then I go into it. And then I go into it. And then I go into it. And then I go into it. I put my consciousness into that ball. It's a lot of already there waiting for me. And that's how we fly outside the magnetosphere. I don't need it in. In space here, but I needed outside, especially to like it. That is a magnifier. Energy in. Like both use it together to like it. It's. All right. So can you describe more about what a like it is? Because you know, people use terms like wormholes and portals. And that's, I think in essence, what they're trying to describe is more of what you're talking about. Like it. But. You know, or. Then we're not within humans. That you can't perceive them. And you can't see them. You can't see them. You can't see them. You can't see them. You can't see them. You can't see them.

27:33You can't see them. You can't see them. You can't see them. That's the rule. Number one. And then the second one is you have to be very, very advanced. To know what it sounds like and to generate it in your own brain. It took me a long time to learn how to do that. To a lot of brought me through it first. I think that we could just say. I think that it's a family, and it's a family. I think that I, I think it's a family that I think it's a family. And I think that that is. I think it's a family that I think it's a family that I could even describe to you. It is a frequency that is unbelievable. And we. We owe more. Correct. Exactly correct. Because it's a very specific frequency that we generate together. It's to where it is we're going and I employ that ability as well. I'm the cheaper and the gate shutter. I open the gate with Tolata and then once we're on the other side of it, I let go and it shuts.

28:35If I'm in a long line of other craft and we're all going through one together, we all employ our abilities together because the gate has to be much bigger and allows person through shuts the gate. We're trying to do that as well. It's very fast. It's milliseconds. We hold our breath when we get through because there is no air. We become interdimensional once we employ it. We are already out of this dimension as we get to state and interdimensional as well. We're non-dimensional or outside of everything once we get through. And then wherever we end up, we... So it's back because we're always in the third dimension when we try to get to where we're going. Everywhere I go in this universe is interdimensional. All right. So here, let me just see if I have this correct. So what basically the light gate is a process of generating huge amounts of electricity to a point that it opens up into...

29:38Okay. So is this going into like the fourth or fifth or sixth or is this beyond that? Through the fifth dimension. Like Talata so substantially aware of us and why they help us in their technology that they learned in this dimension who was able to learn it. The fifth dimensional frequency that we use and go right through to it. And it's very fast and it's very... been taken to the fifth dimension like a handful of times in my life. And it's time I went to Talata had to hold me up because I see everything in that dimension. You see everything in that dimension. I can see through to the third dimension from the fifth dimension in which you can't even explain. It made me... it's like the first experience of craft. I wanted a pew. You'd stop in there.

30:40And I only stay there for about three minutes. That's all I could take and they brought me back out. He... made an opportunity a few times after that to trying to go into it because they felt like if I did that I would take the jump. The light gate much better than I did because I first started experiencing really, really weird symptoms of going through that light gate. I would puke. I'd get dizzy. I almost want to pass out and they had to get me past it. So they were bringing me into the fifth dimension to get me used to what it's like. That's what I was going to say. So what exactly does it feel like when you... you know, because you're there in the craft and it's all third dimensional. But then the gate opens up and you go through it and you come back out. What does that feel like? You lose all cohesion with your physical form. It... It's like molecules like... You know, it... You know, you look at it and you know it's there. You see it. But it's longer physical. You become light.

31:42So you can travel any distance through a light gate? We can get any distance. One of the things I had to learn was coordinates where I am... I'm an genetic memory. I'm one of my talents in life. It's that I remember where I remember going. I never get lost. I'm employed that and learning where I'm going. Go somewhere. I have to have already been there to know where it is. So part of the training is another... or pilot to you there. Did you where that is? And then you jump with them a couple of times and then you got it. And it's in your mind and you need... You need to be able to do this critical. It's not the ability to do that. You can't pilot a craft. You made me own everywhere I'll go. And I have to say an absolutely track where they are. I can go anytime. So this just normalize how truly integrated, you know, travel.

32:44And these craft themselves, technologically speaking, are with psychic abilities. Other dimensions, I guess, is the way of putting it. So the craft themselves are partly... I think you mentioned this once in a while, Craig Lee. Partly built in other dimensional ways. Especially... The element from the fifth dimension is created there. It's very specific and it can't be created in our dimension. It wouldn't exist here. And they're trying to make it down. They're never going to make it. It's just hard to be in that dimension and then they shift it in with the craft at that time. Okay, so another point I kind of wanted to go over was when science fiction, it's all about faster than light travel. And if you know your science and know your physics, it's absolutely really impossible to go speed of light because the faster you go, the more your mass increases.

33:45So these are part of the same. Yes. So you're not traveling at the speed of light by any means, right? Going through a light gate that takes a millisecond to get me from one space to another. It's described here. I'm trying to represent it as folding space. We're going away from here to here. It's folding space and you can get the gate and we close this way. And you get through so you've gone this many miles in a millisecond. You generate the light. The light already knows it's there. It's all part of everything in there. Okay. Let's just describe that. What I'd really like to do is read a short quote to you from this gentleman I interviewed. I'm using a pseudonym. His name is Carter. I've not publicly revealed his story yet. It's coming in an forthcoming book. I'm not sure if you can read it. I'm not sure if you can read it.

34:46But he started talking about this experience he had. It actually was on Hawaii where he was with his wife off grid in a cabin. And the whole cabin filled with white light twice actually. They woke up sometime later. I think having had missing time. He had a mark on his left arm. She had one on her right, both in the same spot. He was like, well, what's going on in the back of the room? I've never heard of this. He's like, well, I remember being in this weird craft. I think I saw a grain. So forth. And he remembered something really interesting as well. And this is what I'd like to quote. It's just about a minute long. But it reminds me, darling, so much of how you describe becoming one with a craft and how they're flown psychically. That's what it sounds like happened to him. And I'll just quote him here as he says. I can quote on this or comment on this. This whole thing just unfolded in my head. I was like almost a specialist kind of pilot. And I, my consciousness, had been put into this UFO type of machine.

35:49My consciousness, this machine was so sophisticated. It was like a living nervous system that needs a living consciousness to operate it. Just like our physical body. I was test piloting some kind of new system. It was like I was immersed in it. I was inside. I was the consciousness inside the living wiring of this thing. It was very complex. As complex as the body. Just look at all the systems in the body. And the layers of complexity for digestion, circulation, and so forth. It was like that. But when I think of it, it was like it was all golden. It was like everything was made of gold filaments. Everything was golden and clean and super precise. And yet living. Had a living dynamic to it. It was super responsive to your consciousness, whatever I was thinking. So yeah, he had the feeling like he was learning how to pilot these craft. And how he described it, reminding me so much of what you're saying.

36:49That's not only like a living system, but you're psychically joined to it to a degree where you're almost lose your own, I'm not lose, but join with the awareness of the craft. So does that sound familiar to you? What he's saying? Yes. Yes. Yes. So what do you think about his description of it being like all gold filaments and super clean and precise? Well, you precise. That's right. Everything lights up in the golden color. It's much the perception to get him at it's golden. Well, that's very cool. So you did this the first time. How would you feel afterwards? It's busted. It took it out of me. I was tired. Oh, my God. I was tired. Realize the. Avity. I was doing it at moment. But it's not something.

37:50It was going to play. It was reality to me. I was like, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. The gravity of it was all encompassing it and sat me down emotionally and. Down for a few days. I was. Mensely. You know how to describe it. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It was. It wasn't. It was not. Didn't me de." It was not. It was not. Not. It was. Not. Look. I'm. It made me realize. Maybe. Did. Did. We made. Because.

38:50It made me realize. It made me realize. It made me realize. That I was, ok. as well. You made an interesting comment that most of them were women. Is that right? Women, women brains, women's brains, female brains, let's put it correctly. The female physiological mind is more flexively, actually feeling into her body. It's the hormone access, the chemicals that we produce, that sort of thing makes us physically quicker, men are only one aspect of it, that because we are all consciousness and outside of our bodies, our consciousnesses can hold anything you are tuned, specifically to it. But you're bringing how you are in this iteration and this life that you're living now is tuned to that. And so when you're in the craft, you're thinking with a female set, the males are thinking with male mindsets. It doesn't matter what I'm doing in this lifetime, I'm still going to be a female.

39:54If I was to be born again and I went to pilot again and as a male, I would be less likely to get to seat because of that. But there are male pilots. So, because you can learn anything. If you have a mind to do it, you can imitate. And it's a fact. Alright, so after you learn how to do this and your company will do it, you started doing more complex things like flying with other people. Is that right? I mean, in terms of you first a couple and then you know, being part of a fleet, right? Yeah, getting on board. We're many aspects of this. I mean, we're not just flying outside of a craft in a wrong craft. We have to ward other craft to turn away businesses sometimes, or just need a break and we'll go into a large craft to take a break. So you have to learn how to get on the ship with them. And if there's a lot of us doing it, there's a little incurred there. You know, not somebody down, you don't want to feel the ball of their

40:55field. You think precisely in a certain way. When we're coming down and on this planet, we're dealing with what's in the air here. And it's not just airplanes and jizzes. And animals that are in the skies. Did you ever take any like just fun joy rides? Like I just want to do something for fun. You can listen to them an idea of what you're doing at like a flight plan. Give you a time that you schedule it and then you go, there are definite set roles. I can't display to anybody. I have to be stealthy. It's this planet. I have to be really stealthy. If it's another planet and another system, their planets that are white open and you just enjoy riding anywhere you want to go, sort of like a place. I have fun. Or even within the systems, but you're time limited to that because when you're outside of the atmosphere, get radiation is not your friend. It's not a friend to the craft or to a lot of either.

41:59And so. Yeah, one guy interviewed Tim from Louisiana described how they took him on board. And up to the control room as they call it the place of movement. And they were describing how they do it. And he had the impression that these were young kind of teenage grays, if you will, that they were still learning and they were like, let's try this. Let's try that maneuver and they were having a good time with it. Absolutely. Days like that. Yes. I wanted to flex my mind out. I wanted to flex my abilities and you can only do that by pushing yourself. This is the day. So it gets a little fun. I want to read another really short quote because there was a guy that I interviewed in this book, on board UFO experiences. J Gardener, who had an experience very much like yours. I think he was 14 or 12, actually 12. When he was taken to the planet Saturn, like you described. And at one point they sat him down on the seat.

42:59And he had, they gave him what he just perceived as a sort of a joystick. But here's what he says happen. I took the controls and accidentally drove the craft right into the ground. I could see the rocks. We're passing through the rocks and there were all these sparks flying dirt and everything. And at that point, the actual pilot took back control of the craft. So is that something that can happen? Can you actually go physically into the ground? We're different phases of power. We're employing different modalities of light. That's interesting. And we can be actually, on other words, non-dimensional. We go on the side, just dimension, we're hearing where they're at the same time. We can't go through things. I can go through any building, go through the planet itself, although we don't go deep. Can we can go into the water?

44:00Can you go sit in the trees if you want to? Have you done all these things then? Have you ever like, like, interpreted the ground? Okay, I managed to not do that one. Thank you. Yeah, I've done some really, I'm, it's cutting through, but you know, you just open your there and it's mind blowing because you're sleeping when you're doing it and you're thinking that's gonna hurt. Go right through it. I think you described one incident. I don't know if this was in the book, but I heard another guy online talking about how he was taken on board of craft, but this craft actually came right into the house. So next thing he knows he's on board, even though they didn't pull him up and it came into through the house. When I was older, I was in the house when I was after my father passed away. I'm laying there and I'm thinking, you know, I've never actually got to see y'all come

45:00through the wall and Todd was laughing at me and I said, no, seriously, I want to see you come through the wall. And I begged for days and then one night I got the answer. Todd said, you have an incoming repair. Okay, cool. And it's not a white light that lights you up. It's a red light. And you see them, I see them anyway coming in as a red glow and it literally came right through my bedroom, but now not the whole craft shown in the room, but the bottom half of it that, and then came right through the house real slow. I think the whole way through. And I was just like, oh my God, is that what people see? And sometimes people do get to see that happen because they pick it up that way. They'll pull you in and go right through your house to get you. And I've never done that. I've never done that. How I do. And it was cool. Yeah, they can go through anything. Yep. So when you go like into the water, what's that like? Does it do you feel it? Or is there?

46:00No, but you know, you're in water. In other words, you know, when I'm in the sky, I know when I'm in the air and I know when I'm close to the ground and I know if I can go through the two tops or whatever, I perceive it. Water is different because you go, you almost want to hold your breath when you're going in because you think, my breath, because you can see the water you're going into the water. I don't feel a splash. I don't feel the area of the water. It's just air to me. I'm going through it. And we will down to a duct. No, we will sometimes cool off that way so that we can make a physical pick up of somebody you had cold to craft down. It's too dangerous for them to come at us when we're that hot. No, it's kind of cool. But we also open blankets underwater. Most people don't understand that a lot of people report. I saw a light into my boat, everything lit up. That's the light gating operation. I love. Have you ever changed the transition to some worlds where there are water worlds?

47:05We do transition from water to water. Well, I get water through that way. That's a lot. I mean, so yeah, that I find is near the lakes. I've gone into the great lakes quite a few times to like get. Yeah. So when you're flying like there's, you know, interstellar travel, which is opening the light, get in boom, you're there. But then there's interplanetary, you're overplanet and you're surfing the gravitational field lines. So when you're doing that, there's no buttons or knobs. You're just connecting mentally, psychically. All right. So that's including when you're. Transistors. No. There's no. Computers, there were no digital anything on water craft. If the system is separate because a lot of us running them psychically, he's part of the craft and he doesn't need connections between things.

48:08He's the whole clock that went on. So no, I don't need any. It's all mental. Have you ever chased a card on the road? Well, they're like. I saw. Because they do that. There's always a third kind. Okay. When I was young, young. Okay. This was in what 76 77. It came out. I'm still very young then and I get the idea. Oh, that looks like fun. And this is one of those things that I pushed the gate with. And we were out west, not Midwest, okay. Indiana was one of those long, bow down roads, you know, hardly anybody out there. We saw a car. Came down and I just sort of followed him for a while until he realized I put white patterns on. So I think I was a car first. And then the guy freaked out. And I broke my spit to life from us. I don't think do I keep up? So I chased him for low on. I went above him and then I went in front of him and stopped.

49:10And he's, I mean, he's spent the car in a little bit trying to stop. And he's just staring at us and I was like, okay, enough enough going and I left. And I hear you talking about things. I silently think about these incidents in my life and I'm like, wait and to hear that. I, you know, somebody described that. So I don't talk about it too often. That is one of the ones that I did. Yeah. Well, this is what I mean when I say I always learned something new because, you know, this is a lifetime of experiences for you. It's really impossible to cover in one book. It's really why I wanted to do this interview today because there's so much to learn about all of this. So we've covered a lot. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit more about some of the close calls you've had. You're like, you know, have you ever missed a light gait or have you ever, you know, dropped, you know, in the gravitational field lines become too wonky? I mean, because you described some of the more weird close calls you may have had. Or just a couple of examples.

50:11Also, we were up and it was daylight. Field guideline and set the 37th parallel. That it just went left like by several hundred feet. Certainly nothing under me. And my instinct is to jump to power up to a power up. You'll see the whole craft light up instantly and I go from battery straight to nuclear at that point. I'm what my ability to use my own gravitational ability to get out of there and dropped about 6,000 feet. I was way up there. I just dropped and I felt it. I physically felt it. I was like, oh, but I, we got it going in. I could hear a lot in the background going good, good, good catch me catch because it got him by surprise, too. This one just shifted all the way to the left. That's scared to holy Jesus out of me. And I was, oh my God, we can crash.

51:12You know, this is not a joke. If we had hit with no field, no craft would have busted up. It would have been bad and people would have been hurt under me. That's good to hell out of me. That's the mark in my brain. Don't do that. Became ultra aware after that. I mean, my brain was constantly. And it shifted me well. Trust me. Another thing that happened to me is the light gate. I think I'm going to someone I wasn't supposed to. I didn't know. I don't know how I missed that. I was young. I ended up somewhere I wasn't supposed to be. It was a big shock to me. And on the other side of that gate stabilized on it. And to one of those dead silent sat there for a minute and he said, well, are we going to go or not? And I was like, okay, I had to recapture myself because I thought, how did I make that I got debriefed on that one. They literally sat me down and said, what were you doing?

52:14What were you thinking they wanted to know every second of what I was thinking to get me to the wrong place? And I got worked on a little bit with that. You know, don't do that again. That could be bad. So yeah, that was a big one for me. I felt like it made me for a long time. I was breathing myself everywhere like it scared me. What's another dumb stupid thing I'm done? Come and get ready to juice up. And then there was light up power up. You have to bring the batteries up. They don't down somewhere. That's why you see a bottom part of the craft that's sort of like, that's the battery packs coming down in the big craft. Ming, this power up. And that causes a problem with your field. Okay. If you got something sticking out on the craft, they can mess with the field somewhat, not cause of walking this, getting out of the atmosphere. That was a way to make a routine.

53:16It's just these are just stupid things that happened to you until you want to not to forget to do them. All right. Have you ever like knocked out the electronics of someone's house accidentally or something like that? How about you coming in? You're not oriented properly. The craft has a definite, the EMP that the craft produces. It's a field of it to the lettering on the craft to even more of those south or east, which is a way we're turning and directing or using the field lines. And if you're facing something directly facing something, the EMP is a third year. Whatever direction you're going in when you're incoming, coming down and you turn away from it, you turn around from it. I don't need to see what's in front of me to guide this craft. And no, younger I'm in the neighborhood. That was fun. Or corn, high wind, they're just suddenly going, oh my God, you know,

54:17and you worry about them crashing because when the car goes, then the wheels are moving. It goes dead and the wheels are moving and they can't, you know, have power steering. That's great because you can, but if you have power steering, they're kind of screwed. So yeah, I have to be very careful with that. And yes, I accidentally knocked out. Has anyone like tried to photograph you when they weren't allowed and like that? We, poster. I am to you the less. We're going to get a picture. We hold out at about 3000, if we're 3000 feet away from you, you're really good chance of getting us on film. Anything closer in the 3000 feet, you're going to, because your camera, you did you the camera, even the film itself can't handle that radiation. And it'll knock it out. It'll stop it dead. We know what you're doing. We know you've got a camera in your hand and we know your point. We don't want you to see us. We turn them to face you so that you can't. We allow the MP to just knock it out and look back.

55:20Yeah. This is all really interesting to me because you know, when you first started talking about piting the craft, I had heard this before and it was really even more confirmation for me, certainly when Canadian researcher Grant Cameron put out his book, Sky Pilots, which you know, basically presents, I think it's more than a dozen cases of people who describe the same sort of experience. So would you say this is something that commonly teach other people how to do or there's more than I guarantee you is lots of us. They want us to catch up with them. They want, if you have abilities and they single you out for them, you have a very high chance of being offered this opportunity and they're planning if people on this plan to do have taken that opportunity, I'm not the only one. Do they not have their own pilots? I mean, why would they need to teach us? Is the situation is unique. And one of the situations that we're facing here is that we're at the end of a cycle.

56:21And they're going to need a lot of craft to pick up a lot of people at the same time. And it's better for us a human opens the door. It's the call get on now. Preped everybody for this. They've been sending mental messages to everybody on this planet that they're coming. Then they will happen. We'll come down and remove humanity from the planet because it will not be safe here anymore. It's coming to that. Rubbly. It's better for you not to see Grace and they're going, Hey, how you doing? You better if you see me going, Hey, how you doing? Time to go. And from me beforehand, too. I mean, that's one of the reasons I'm talking. I said, what you don't understand that this is well being trained to help in our excursion are and are saving ourselves. That's an important fact that everybody needs to connect to. We're just going to come here and do everything for us and not by a long shot.

57:23No, they're not. They must use our abilities. They must listen to what they have to say. They want us to mentally prepare what's before us and pay attention to the truth because this situation is coming. And it's real. A lot of. Then yeah, so this is ultimately the purpose of why they agreed to teach you is because, you know, there is a purpose behind all this. It's not just fun and game. So it's not why me and nobody else. It's I'm one of a lot of people here that have disability and are working it. All right. So I want to begin to wrap this up because we've been talking almost an hour now. And I want to give you the opportunity to sort of, you know, give what the ET's message is to all of us and how important. I think it's some, you know, basically having to do with the development of our psychic abilities to help overcome what we're facing. But yeah, I mean, however you want to wrap this up. I want to give you that opportunity because this is a big part of your experiences is flying craft, you know, scooping up people to examine and heal them and guide them and counsel them and so forth.

58:32But yeah, I mean, what is the ET's message to because I believe you wanted to sort of close with that. Kennedy has a huge opportunity not before it. Yes, things are going to be difficult. Yes, they're going to be. Glosef in front of us and cataclysmic in front of us. We're awesome people like them, children. We have a lot of ability. You know it innately. We know it. But we have to choose for yourself. You're going to go with this. It's important to think about it critically. This side for yourself, everybody each one of you. To him. No, I'm just going to stay as I am, COVID-setic, whatever happens. Or you can embrace. Dance. This week. That this journey within.

59:32Learn with one. Have to do a little bit of work yourself before him. And it's not hard to do. You just have to decide to do it. First decision in that and very first decision you must. Do. Learn to. Separate yourself. What's going on in this world. What's going on in this world. What's going on in this world. Right now. In the jingle of Mr. Right. Outright line. Fantasy. There's not. Well. Happy. Beautiful. And knowing that you have an opportunity before you. To do great things for yourself. Yourself. Whatever was this world's group on you. It's going to go on a journey. If you so choose. That's the message. If you're going to be in that. You're going to have a good time. And it's going to be a. Really think it's really good. Take a day. Sit down, man. Let the air was. Talk to you. Let the. Talk to you.

1:00:32Listen to what they're saying. Yeah. Well, that's really encouraging actually this is a message I've heard. But other contact you certainly told me this sort of thing about the. Sky filling with craft. Warnings of, you know, hard times ahead. I think it's really important that people know. And like you say. Try to sift through all the lies. The disinformation. The false narratives. Our governments are putting forth. And look to the truth. It's just. It's just really cool and really remarkable. That we have these people out there who are working so hard to help us through this transition. I think it's important that people know. And like you say. Try to sift through all the lies. The disinformation. The false narratives. Our governments are putting forth. And look to the truth. Look to science. Look to your own experience. And this is something that's available to anyone, right? I mean, anyone can reach out to these guys. Very cool. Anything else you want to add? Just. Be. We're. These days in front of you to.

1:01:36Work. Well, for yourselves and your families and. Being conscious. We gain the ability to reach and tap your own consciousness. And then. Your others as well. You. Thank you. It's fun. Very slow. I can't. I'm much fun. This was for me. All of it. I can only imagine. I mean, wow. It's fun driving a car. So. To say, I have the cars at UFO. That's a bumper stick. I just need. Is. And have it be true. Is. It's just really amazing. So yeah, thanks, dolly. That was awesome. I definitely learned some stuff. It was certainly really interesting. And we did cover part of this in the book symmetry. A true UFO adventure. So if y'all want to read more about dolly's experiences, definitely check out that book. But yeah, dolly. Huge. Thank you. I really appreciate you coming on to the show. Very much. I appreciate it. All right.

1:02:36That's the show for tonight, guys. Thanks very much for watching. I truly appreciate it. And as I always like to say. Keep searching for answers. Keep looking for the truth. And most importantly. Keep having fun. Right, dolly. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Absolutely. Yep. All right. Bye, guys.