Interview: Richard Gage: 25 Years Later, Building 7 Still Defies Explanation

0:00Music Music If you look at the film of the North Tav collapsing, you can see all the explosions in the controlled demolition of that building happening in front of your very eyes. That was the BBC in real time on television telling you that the building 7 had already fallen when it hadn't fallen yet. If it was true that two planes brought down three buildings in a completely unprecedented way, then that should have caused us to rethink the way we build these buildings. It didn't. If a hundred thousand tons of structural steel is found that far outside of the perimeter, what's there to crush the building?

1:01Three different peer-reviewed scientific studies have concluded their wags informed trading before 9-11. We have a clear right and an obligation to search for answers to the fundamental question about the planning of 9-11, its execution, the physical effects, the structural consequences and the way it just went to plane to the World Trade Center. There was an explosion of the basement prior to the power being hit by a plane. I felt this iconic and incredible force of wind of something common at you. The South Tower now is starting to implode the fireball, is following us so we're running away from a fireball. That building had no reason to come down. There's no history of a high-rise fire, and a fireproof, resulting in failure or building. And on the side of the U-Hull truck had a mural at the Twin Towers on the side and a plane going into the Twin Towers.

2:11The further down into that pile I got, the more I could make out what looked like from a science fiction movie, Moulton Wilder. Why was crucial evidence of melted structural steel suppressed and not even considered, or worse yet, allowed to be carted off and destroyed? The 9-11 commission did not look into at all how the towers came down. The number of hijack exercises prior to 9-11 that mirrored the events. In my work with the Anthrex letters, they would cite experts or, you know, administration officials, and they would never give you the name. But when they don't give you the name, you know they're giving you the narrative. How come four airplanes, four commercial airplanes could be hijacked in a period of 90-something minutes? And nothing happened.

3:33Well, please welcome San Francisco Bay Area Architect Richard Gage, a IA member of the American Institute of Architects, Founder, and former CEO of Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth. He now leads the charge for New World Trade Center investigation. Along with this courageous wife, Gail, at Richard Gage 9-11 dot org. Mr. Gage became interested in researching the destruction of the World Trade Center high rises after hearing the start link conclusions over the last 9-11 researcher David Ray Griffin on the radio in 2006, which launched his own unyielding quest for the truth about 9-11. The organization he founded AE-9-11 Truth now numbers more than 3600 architects and engineers demanding a new investigation into the explosive destruction of all three World Trade Center high rise buildings on 9-11.

4:36As an architect, he has worked on most types of building construction, including numerous fireproofed steel framed buildings. Most recently he worked on the construction documents for a $400 million mixed-use urban project with 1.2 million square feet of retail, parking structure, mid-rise office space, all together about 1200 tons of steel framing. Well, Richard, let's hope that that doesn't just come collapsing down. Well, we look at this. How do we gauge this? No pun intended. When you've got no changes to the building codes and no changes to the way they fight fires. That's some of the people I've talked about that as a guy, Tony Rook in the UK, and that was one of his big issues. They're still going up into high rises and fighting fires. The guy who wrote the textbook on this subject, Roe Langoulo, the Seattle Fire Captain, he says, we haven't changed anything. We're not worried about these buildings coming down on us at free fall.

5:39And this, the National Institute of Standards and Technology, who investigated these buildings, made recommendations to the International Building Code, but they haven't been followed for the structural revisions. You can still have theoretically any of these buildings, and they're similarly built, right? A hundred of them are more throughout the United States that could come down on them. Well, of course, there's a picture that you put up of the trade centers that they were going up. In terms of steel skyscrapers, probably one of the most sturdy ones up there. And, of course, Donald Trump said that on day one, but of course he doesn't talk about that anymore. But, you know, the fact that it had steel girders all around the perimeter that were there is truly amazing. And we have seen fire after fire both before and after. And we've had fires that have burned and steel skyscrapers for many days, and they never come collapsing down in free fall. What you might have is a burned out structure of the steel still there, and it's maybe leaning over to the side a little bit, but they don't just fall down all at once, especially not a building that wasn't even hit by the plane.

6:43That's the most amazing thing, I guess. And you know, it took you a few years before you started investigating this as an architect. I, as well, did not really think about it because I was really more focused on what they were trying to bring in with Homeland Security. I had actually not seen these things fall until probably about five or six years later, because when it was all happening, we didn't have television. We were out in the middle of the woods, and we had relatives who were calling us, because we had relatives who were in New York, actually had a relative who was in the building. And I, I'm listening to this stuff, and they said, oh, one of them fell down. I'm thinking, wow, how much men had to take out of that on one side. But it was years before I saw the free fall collapse. So it's kind of interesting. Here we are 25 years later. What's going to change this? You got a convention that is coming up. Don't you call turning the tide? Tell us a little bit about that. Boy, do we? This is huge. David, we've got, let me share my screen with you. We've got 40 speakers that were bringing to New York.

7:48This is the largest 9-11 truth conference ever assembled on this, on the 25th anniversary of 9-11. So we have an extraordinary venue, but all of these people that we heard about from the developer of the World Trade Center Larry Silverstein just now, we've got him being quite concerned about some of the characters that we've brought together. Pink Floyd, iconic rock star Roger Waters, for instance, who's been working with Matt Campbell to get justice for his brother's Jeff's murder in the North Tower on 9-11. And in the UK, they have an inquest they can go after in order to make sure that we get to the bottom of the two story of how these families were blown to small pieces. I mean, 6000 pieces, small enough to fit into a test tube and they couldn't find 300 bodies altogether.

8:56So we've got James Lee, who went deep into the Charlie Kirk assassination. We've got Brett Weinstein, a deep linker now with the Darkwirt Horse podcast calling all kinds of questions about 9-11. As is Chris Martinson from peak prosperity, he analyzes the evidence as well and goes into it deeply, Karen Korkowski of the Pentagon. She is a whistleblower about the intelligence failures in the Pentagon and not just failures, but complicity. James Corbett of the Corbett report will be doing. He's excellent. Yeah. Isn't he amazing? Yeah, I really like Jim's work. Yeah. And Jimmy Dore, who's been talking about 9-11 for years now and had us on the show, as did Clayton Morris of Redacted, about the Jimmy will be there in person highlighting Saturday night. Pretty exciting. And we've got Dennis Kassinich, also a former congressman.

10:01He back in what was it? Well, last year, Dennis Kassinich brought Dana Rohrabacher and Kurt Weld and all together to speak at our conference in Washington, D.C. for the 9-11 truth. And that's where this turning the tide got started is in Washington, D.C. He gave a rousing speech. He's coming back to do that again. And he's trying to bring back Senator Ron Johnson with him, who is the chair of the permanent subcommittee on investigations, who effectively inspired us to put all our evidence together to bring it to him so that he could have hearings in the Senate like he's doing with COVID. So we're very excited about that. And we put together a thousand pages of that report and we'll be presenting it at the conference as well for my part, of course, on the explosive destruction of all three of these World Trade Center skyscrapers that we'll be looking at today.

11:08But that's just just a lot to go over here. We've got Merrill Nass exposing anthrax and COVID, Phil Turnie, the U.S. Liberty, a false flag event. He'll be Sunday's false flag day, September 13th. So we've got Charlie Kirk, Oklahoma bombing, the USS Liberty Epstein, lots of false flags to go over. Derek Bros will be there talking about specifically the Oklahoma City bombing. And then we've got also Mary Holland of the Children's Health Defense. She, of course, that's Bobby Kennedy's organization. And she's been an islander and truth for a long time, which means, of course, well, it doesn't mean. But Bobby's on top of this too, but it's not something he could talk about his hands are pretty well tied in the position. He's in the Trump administration.

12:10But we have first responders, Chris Joya, Eric Lawyer and Captain Richard Patterson of the FDNY. We have Patrick Dylan, first responder. These guys saw molten iron deep in the pile, Patrick Dylan did Captain Patterson said construction worker walked by him saying that building is coming down around five o'clock. He's been until that story Patrick Dylan was in building seven. And he had three battalion chiefs come in and kick all the first responders who were trying to recover in the lobby of building seven said, get out. They're going to pull the building. Everybody out now. And they were trailed by two guys with guns. Big guns. So this is new information to a lot of people. It'll be mc'd by the maker of loose change. One of them. This Jason Burmus and a lot of a setting. Willie Rodriguez, the last man out who who saved lives in the towers. And he just dove out of the tower underneath a fire truck. And all the debris came down on top of the fire truck. He would have been killed.

13:25And he's not a hero. And we've got researchers, Dr. Pierce Robinson and Alan Merrill and the intelligence failures along with Mick Harrison, the flight, the flight impossible flights that were led to believe were done by hijackers. There are patsys who may not even and probably weren't on the planes themselves. Barbara Hanukkah from the lawyers committee for 9-Element inquiry. We'll be telling us about their important work. Neal's Herod is flying from Denmark to tell us about the nano thermite found in the World Trade Center dust responsible for bringing these buildings down nano thermite. He's eight international scientists that he assembled together in this peer reviewed papers never been challenged. So we'll be talking about that. And Jonathan goal call who's made the movie about false flag operations.

14:25False flag day 9-11 is the mother of all false flag operations. So this. Yeah. No, it's declaring, hey, we should call this false flag day. Go ahead, Dave. That's right. Yeah. Well, I look at nine. You talk about being a false flag. I think of it as the Reichstag fire that kicked off the 21st century police surveillance state here in America. And it really is interesting. You talk about how you got Merrill is going to be talking about the anthrax attacks. And of course, you know, when you look at it, it really worked hand in glove, didn't it with the other shoe to drop 20 years later. We had the dark winter two months before you had 9-11 one week later, you got an anthrax attack that's sent to the offices of a couple of senators who were very reluctant to do homeland security bill. And then two months later, they send out the model legislation that everybody used in 2020. It's just amazing. And then they practiced this pandemic lockdown waiting for an experimental vaccine. They practiced that for 20 years.

15:25It's amazing how these people work this thing out on such a long term. It truly is the mother of all false flags, isn't it? Yeah. And we've had another mother of all false flags since then. Haven't we with COVID the false disease engineered and patented along with the false solution engineered and patented well before the disease ever came out. And I see that as just another the other shoe to drop from the same event here. That's why I see it. The two of them are so tied together at the very beginning, even a couple of weeks before that. It truly is amazing how these things are all pulled together. The one thing that I think is funny, Richard, is the fact that they have usually they pick a term to describe their enemies that is advantageous to them. But they wound up calling us truthers, which I guess would make them liars, right? Yeah, exactly. They call us conspiracy theorists, but we're citing evidence. Most of us. And we're not theorizing much.

16:29But we have a whole lot of evidence to back up everything we that we are theorizing. And we're going to show your audience that today. But first I wanted to share this venue. This is a historic venue, El Museo del Barrio, Teatro, an extraordinary theater built in the 40s. We're there. We're going to try to fill every seat. David. And this is a city that's a New York City right on central park on Fifth Avenue, you bet. A gorgeous venue. And we have, we start Thursday with all of these speakers that we've named so far Friday. We've named most of these. John Kirby, by the way, will be presenting the premiere of his new film, The Responders. And these are responders who are not supporting the official narrative. They are witnesses of explosions and fireballs and things that nest the national Institute of Standards and Technology, who was tasked by drivers to explain these collapses to the American people.

17:33They don't talk about explosions. They say they're no first responders talking about explosions. And these are the reasons why we have 156 of them that we talk about in our presentations orally recorded within a month after 9-11. But it's just been buried and then Sunday overcoming the deep state. Saturday night is our big, big night with Jimmy Dore and Willie Rodriguez and others. This is the responders movie that is going to be premiered that we're so excited about. So, all four days, 150 bucks or single days you can get to. And we have, if you want to sit up front and go to the head of the lines and have brunch, a classy brunch with Roger Waters of Pink Floyd, Brent Weinstein, Jimmy Dore and all the rest of the speakers. Donation to support the conference because it's mostly supported by donations. The tickets don't cover all the price, all the costs.

18:38So that's 911 dollars for those of you. Would you come up with that price? I can't imagine. It works. It doesn't work. It's sold about 15 tickets at that price and there's more left. So we encourage people to buy. Well, I really do appreciate you doing this. And of course you've been on this for so many years. I just talked about a story the other day. The fact that you had some people saying, well, it's about time we get this chic, a colleague or whatever the patsy is that they got. They've had it in Getmo now for 25 years and he hasn't had a trial. And when I looked at that, I said, well, you know, maybe there's a reason they haven't had a trial. Maybe they don't want to have discovery. Maybe they don't want to really talk about this stuff. That's right. And plus his testimony is no good anyway because he was tortured by other times or something. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. We've started massive wars based on that same approach. I haven't weighed that based on that. 911 is a war trigger as Professor Graham McQueen calls it. And these are designed to achieve an outcome which is generally war, which affects regime change and the stealing of resources in countries.

19:49Like Afghanistan, opium and Iraq, oil. So here we go again. What are we really doing in Iran? We're affecting regime change for resources. So it never ends David. Well, I think we had regime change here in America when we created Homeland Security. We got TSA and all the rest of the stuff. The entire world changed. I don't fly anymore because of what is happening. I just, sorry, it's like there's no place I don't want to go badly enough that I will go through that stuff. It just makes me too angry. But I just can't believe what they've wound up doing to our country. And all of this stuff is so calculated, so planned and advanced. And you can see it. We know about these germ games on a regular basis. And one of the people that you had up there on your chart on the first page, I think it was the second one in on the second line. Look like Anthony Fauci. I can't see the person's name. It's like, is Fauci going to be coming? I mean, he could speak on it because it is connected. All these things are connected.

20:52You know, we should do a timeline junkie did that great video by about Larry Silverstein. He should do one on Fauci. I think that would be funny. But no, this is Bob McAvane. You're looking at here. He's the father of Bobby who was murdered also in the North Tower. And he's been crying out for justice for 25 years now. And it just doesn't get any easier for him or for any of the family members, of course. I'm so sorry to hear that. Yes. Harder and harder. But he is. Yeah, he has been a stalwart in his outspoken support for the 9-11 truth movements, particularly architects and engineers for 9-11 truth. Those of us who are talking about what really happened at these hours. Is it going to be any discussion about the Pentagon or you and flight 93? Are you going to be focused primarily on what happened in New York? Primarily on the on the towers and the intelligence failures and impossible flights and the control of these aircraft and the hijackers.

22:00All of us have very serious questions, of course, about flight 93 and what brought it down and where it actually landed, for instance, who was on the plane. And then the Pentagon, of course, which we have disagreements in the 9-11 truth movement about what did or didn't hit the Pentagon. But we all agree. And nothing should have hit the most highly defended building in the world, particularly this airliner, civilian aircraft doing 8,000 feet per minute drop in a 270 degree corkscrew maneuver more associated with a fighter jet. And then where does it come down right on top of Donald Runesfeld? That's that's easy target, right? The big from the sky. Well, there's the Pentagon. I'm going right at it now. It does this crazy corkscrew and lands right in the area of the investigators from the Department of the Army who were investigating the $2.3 trillion.

23:01That Donald Runesfeld had just announced the night before was missing from the Pentagon budget. You know, it's interesting. I've got an anecdote. I'll tell you about this. And I kicked myself or not having recorded it, but I went here with the woman said, and I figured if I pulled out my phone, she would stop talking. We went down to a little vacation area that's just south of Austin, my wife and I did. It was a tourist shop. And she's looking at all the little knickknacks and everything. I'm saying there were only three people on the story, the woman who ran the store in the two of us. And she starts telling me about her life story. How she was former military. She got out after her husband retired. And she said, you know, I was right there. I got out a couple of months before 9.11, but I was working in that office. I said, oh, really? It said, yeah, it's amazing. She said, you wouldn't believe how much stuff we found on people. She said we had politicians and military people who were just taking retirement left and right rather than going through some kind of a criminal process. And she said, and I was lucky to get out there. I said, where do you get your news? What are your favorite news outlets?

24:02I mean, she was absolutely clueless and she was right there. And she was talking about all the corruption that they were discovering. And then the fact that she got out just in time, but she was absolutely clueless. She believed the entire official narrative, even though she was right there. Well, this is psychological trauma. A trauma-based mind control that we were all put in her shock and awe. With these towers were hit, we were under attack. We'd never been under attack before. And I'm on the West Coast, right? We're talking about New Yorkers. Incredible. And we want answers. And we accept those answers when they come right away. You know, I can 48 hours. Every one of the 19 hijackers listed in the grid of terror there that they showed us. But many of them turned out to be alive later on. And some of them did. There's no evidence that they were on the planes. There's no evidence that they were in the airports, actually.

25:08There's lots of problems with the official narrative. In fact, beginning with Building 7, I want to make sure we at least show people what happened to this building. Should we do that? Go ahead. You got it. Take control. Give everybody your short pitch here. We got a good amount of time. But yeah, I'm sure at this point, many of my listeners have heard me cover this stuff. But it's never enough to just say it once or twice. We need to hammer this home because most people still have not gotten the message. So yeah, go ahead and show us. And how many of our wonderful listeners out there on the David night show have taken the time to send this material to people that aren't aware of it. Yes. Those are the people we need to reach. So share every one of the David night podcasts with everybody you know, guys. He is putting the information out here, not just for your entertainment, right? This is sort of waking up of America. We're trying to save our country here. And it's it may be too late.

26:14And this is foundational. I mean, this is a thing. I look at it. I see not just the towers falling. I see the Constitution falling. I see our government our way of life being taken down by these people as well. Oh, yeah. And we've got to do something. So I'm doing what I can do. These are buildings. I'm an architect. So this is something that I can do. We have a 47 story skyscraper that came down in the afternoon of 9-11. Most architects and engineers know nothing about it, which is why I'm still talking about it 20 years later. This building was 47 stories 100 feet away from the North Tower. And here it is standing pretty fine after the towers came down that morning. I did have some damage, but missed the National Institute of Standards of Technology who was tasked by Congress to explain these. They said that wasn't a factor in the building's collapse. But let's look at that collapse and see what we can learn.

27:14520 in the afternoon, the upper part, the East Penn House comes down in an isolated event. And then six seconds later, the entire building does this uniformly, symmetrically straight down into its own footprint at the bottom. It's on the footprint at free fall acceleration. That's a problem. Most people who are in fifth grade or above realize that this did not come down to the cause that we are told. What are we told? What we found was that uncontrolled building fires cause an extraordinary event. The collapse of World Trade Center 7 was primarily due to fires. Well, we ought to look at those fires then, right? They are few. They are scattered throughout the building. They're relatively small. And they are burned out on the area of interest by mist.

28:14More than an hour before the building came down on floor 12 where there is initiation of collapse, which is a pretty elaborate, unrealistic and provably wrong theory is based on that 12 floor. But we've never lost a steel frame fire protected structure ever in history due to fires. I mean, it went with much larger longer lasting and hotter fires in these buildings, not before 9-11 or after 9-11 where we have these much hotter fires, full engulfing these buildings. They don't come down. It just doesn't happen. So what does bring them down, David? Three guesses. We can compare them, right? Is there any similarity? Is there an absolute similarity toward an investigation into the possible use of explosives, especially since fire, the official cause of the explosive collapse has never any history brought down a steel frame fire protected structure.

29:17So what we're going to do in the conference is look at the evidence of the features of control demolition on building seven and the twin towers and compare them to what actually happened in reality. And we're going to find out what brought this building down. We're going to be looking at, for instance, from West Street. Is it really symmetric? Yeah, pretty symmetrical. How do you do that? You have to take out all the core columns with a fraction of a second of each other, right? Followed about a second later by the perimeter columns any deviation that pattern and the building doesn't go down symmetrically. Yeah, pretty incredible that these fires take all those columns out at once, David. I said, this is fifth grade. I really meant it. Yeah. I mean, it's a tragedy with all the people that died. It's a tragedy, but it is so unbelievably stupid that this narrative, this ridiculous narrative would go. Look at that. That's what I thought it would expect. Yeah, exactly. That's what I was dimensioned when I was talking to somebody on the phone. They were talking about it. I thought, wow, you know, how many other buildings that it take out when it went down. But yeah, falling over on the side like that. That is what you would expect. It's going to collapse as you point out. It's all going to be timed. Perfect.

30:39Absolutely. Or it will go over on the end. And I would suggest to people do your own research and just go it's kind of entertaining in a sense to look at the absurdity of this lie that they have here. But just go on YouTube and take a look at building demolitions. Watch them over and over again. This is a number one, a one job that they did here, because as you point out, if you don't get the timing exactly right, it'll deviate and fall to one side or the other. It is obvious if you start watching these things one after the other, it's obvious that it's a controlled demolition. It couldn't be anything other than that. Especially with this feature of free fall. They're falling as fast as a bowling ball falling out of the sky, gaining velocity every second. So the bowling ball has no structure underneath it. This building had 40,000 tons of structural steel. Which means what? That not one of these 82 columns gave any resistance for this building's seven second fall. So did fires take them all out? So that can happen? These fires are not going to happen.

31:47So what we're going to do is show the committee with the 9-11 Truth and Accountability Report. And at the conference, we're going to show the evidence, the witnesses of explosions before this building came down. And was a series of conclusive explosions before the building came down to all these witnesses. This gentleman who worked in the 23rd floor emergency management office, Richard Root. He saw an elevator that was blown out of its shaft. This is after 12 o'clock in the afternoon, 1 o'clock. It was blown out of its shaft down the hall, 30 to 40 feet. And this says there were no explosions. What did fire blow the elevator cab out of its shaft? And he says gaping holes above him with columns dangling. It's pretty darn important. Many witnesses including Barry Jennings. This is of explosions like this.

32:52We'll be talking about those and control demolition experts who and structural engineers and the University of Alaska that got involved doing their four year report on the building. We're being completely pulling the rug out from underneath the NIST report saying, hey, how did this building come down? It came down because it was a global failure of evolving what? The near simultaneous failure of all the columns in the building. Not a progressive collapse as claimed by NIST. So that's how obvious it is. And so we have to ask, what could have brought this building down? Well, we should look not for conspiracy theorists. But at FEMA, who actually included in their report at the Pendex C, the metallurgical examination of the steel from building seven and the twin towers. What did they find? Never before observed.

33:52You tactic reactions causing intergranular melting capable of turning a solid steel girder into Swiss cheese like this piece of World Trade Center seven steel. Guess what, David? Fire does not do this to steal neither does jet fuel. Doesn't melt that we're talking about 3000 degrees Fahrenheit to do this to steal and twin towers columns thinned to razor sharpness through what rapid oxidation and sulfidation. That's not fire liquid iron. That's molten iron sulfur formed during this hot corrosion attack on the steel. You can tell the temperature of molten iron and steel by its color. We're exceeding 2500 degrees here Fahrenheit. There's no accounting whatsoever in the official narrative for these temperatures. And I'm only giving you the 10 minute version. We've got a five hour version with all the seven in it. So that's all.

34:54I remember talking to me. I say, what is it all these people want to say ask me these questions about well, what is the what is melting point of steel and what is the temperature which jet fuel burns anything that what is it with these people. I was like, well, you might want to think about that. And he was doing somebody. Maybe you remember who he was interviewing, but he wanted to show him the pictures of building seven just as you showed us just now. And he says, I'm sorry we can't run that. You know, I'm kind of blew it off. What the guy around here talking. 20 years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was David Ray Griffin and Stephen Jones. He interviewed ridiculed both of them. We're still waiting for an apology. I don't know how long we have to wait. But that's all evidence of ignited incendiaries. Incendiaries work by means of heat. Expenses work by means of expansion of gases organic material and knocks things over. So we have to ask was there any evidence of unignited incendiaries in the World Trade Center dust and that's where Niels Heratt comes in and he'll be at the conference talking about the seven independently collected samples that he found the same curious red grade chips in and they're attracted to a magnet so they have a high iron content.

36:09So he does x-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy finds manganese iron oxide and aluminum being the signature of thermite in these they go, whoa, what's that doing? This is not paint paint doesn't have these exotic properties. So he they zoom in 50,000 times with an electron microscope and they find these iron oxide particles and aluminum platelets that are a thousand times smaller than the diameter of the earth. So they're a lot more of a human here nanoparticles. Well, there's a lot more to this story, but they they they conclude in 2009 with peer reviewed paper that's active unreacted, the metic material incorporating nanotechnology nanotechnology. So that's not been contested and that's among the evidence that's convinced 3,600 architects and engineers on the petition at AE 911 truth dot org to to find that hey, we need an investigation.

37:12We got to get an impartial unimpeachable investigation to find out what really happened and many of them appear in our ongoing film series. We have 12 episodes, six of them are done. It's called 911 crime scene to courtroom and what we're doing is taking to court the evidence that we're talking about here. Here's just a taste. No matter how in problem, the conclusion may appear when you've eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable must be the truth. We're bringing alive in the film the 60 exhibits 911 WTC evidence contained in the lawyers committed, brand jury petition that have already been submitted to the US Touring in Manhattan to present this special criminal. This historic investigation is ongoing and there's a role for you. Yes, you can help us bring the real perpetrators to justice.

38:20Through this film series, we're bringing together two dozen experts in their field. They ignored any scenario involving incentives. Demolition work, you're going to set charges on each floor. In other words, all of the interior columns over eight stories came down basically lost at once. It could make out what looked like in a science fiction movie, both in law, okay. Closed and said that would be coming down around five or four. You'd be filming these evidence presentations, not only block filing with your injury, also presentations taking to view. We're inviting you to serve as virtual grandeur during each embassy. Definitely. That's excellent. That's excellent. Take a look at that guys. 911c2c.org.

39:23Well, we definitely in diet. I mean, all the guests that you've got coming in to talk about this, do you buy any chance to have the dancing Israelis are going to come in and make an appearance? Well, we like to get them. If I'm feeling we'd like to have them in front of the grand jury, Whitney, yeah. That'll be pretty hard to make happen. Many of these experts are appearing in our film also. But you've got to realize that since building seven is so obvious, what about the twin towers? We shouldn't we at least look at it to see if there's something wrong there too. And I just wanted to share with everybody who were taught here simultaneously shown the destruction of each of the two towers upward outward arching streamers, a geometry of fireworks, freely flying structural steel sections, weighing four up to eight tons each, laterally ejected at 85 miles an hour, landing up to 600 feet in every direction, trailed by what?

40:35Thick white smoke clouds. Wait a minute. Why are these structural steel sections, which are not flammable in office fire conditions, trailing thick white smoke clouds? Well, let's look and see what thermite does. How it burns. We see molten iron in the main byproduct, but we also see thick white smoke clouds of what aluminum oxide ash, the other byproduct of thermite. This is proof of what brought the towers down because fire does not catch steel on fire. So this is the only rational explanation for that phenomena. So we will be going through the features of controlled demolition of the twin towers. For instance, we're told that the upper part drove the rest of the building down to the ground. Well, guess what? Look at the lower red line, the point of plane impacts. This tower is not driving anything down to the ground. It's destroying itself, the upper part of the tower.

41:40In three seconds, it's gone. Almost free fall acceleration in this case, 66% free fall doesn't slow down. It's being destroyed. If it were there, you'd see it in photos and videos, but you don't. If it were there, it would just would have destroyed these few remaining columns standing 900 feet in the air for another dozen seconds. No. So what are we looking at? Are we looking at a building collapse? Or are we looking at something else? In fact, which one is the volcano upward outward, arching streamers, a geometry of fireworks, freely flying solid molten objects trailed by thick white smoke clouds? That's the analogy. Yeah, building one is on the left. But look at the similarities. It's incredible, very explosive event. I'm very controlled at all, actually. So we have 156 first responders who are witnesses of explosions. Many of them before the towers even come down.

42:46And I'm not going to read them all to you because we're short on time, but it is incredible. We will bring all this. And I've spent 90 minutes with Senator Johnson personally on the Zoom showing him all of this evidence. And he was blown away, which is why he appeared at our conference in Washington, DC. But we have to ask a question, David. If a hundred thousand tons of structural steel is found outside well outside the perimeter of the towers, I've got to ask what's crushing the building? This is a third of the weight of the building. It's not available to crush the building since it's been distributed so far laterally. And so maybe it was a concrete floors. Well, we look for the concrete floors and did we find any? Well, we have four and eight inch thick concrete poured on metal decking supported by lightweight steel trusses.

43:47We're looking for 110 of these each an acre in size. But we don't find 50. We don't find 10. We don't find one acre size floor system. We don't find a half acre, a quarter acre, a 16th of an acre gone in a real gravitational collapse like this one in Mexico. We have pancakes or this one in Bangkok, 33 stories, pancake down. Guess how high that pile is? 10 stories, a third of its height. What's the height of the pile at the towers? About six stories. It should have been a 30 story pile of pancakes, but there's no pancakes. And there's only a six story pile. Look at those guys down at the bottom. That's a 10 story pile of former high rise. Where's the concrete? It's missing. Oh, there it is. We have it's pulverized in mid air. What can pulverize 90,000 tons of concrete in each of these buildings? Well, explosives can do that. Turns out heat can do that too.

44:59American society testing materials finds that at 1500 degrees white powder decomposed hydration products at sanding gravel and powder. It's all missing. Wait a minute. If it's missing and spread louder, really as you see on the right throughout lower Manhattan in a blanket, three inches thick, then what's crushing the building? If all the concrete is from river to river, it's not available to crush the building below it either. Together with the steel, that's two thirds of the weight of this building not available to crush it whatsoever. And that's why so many architecture engineers are convinced of the proof of control demolition. And that's why we got to have a new investigation, not just because the buildings were blown up, but because of the implications of this. This is obviously an inside job. I'll get it. I don't have access to building. I can't just tell people, you know, the big mistakes we make in terms of thinking about the government, as we don't realize just how evil the people are and we don't realize how sophisticated their technology is either.

46:08It really is amazing when you look at this. They were able to pull this off and then of course, cover it up because of their control of the media. It's scary how controlled they are. I mean, we've learned. I've learned that 90% of the media is controlled by just five corporations. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The same all-beyond by that one guy. Yeah. And that one guy owns the arms industry, the oil industry, the banking industry, the insurance industry and the media of course. So yeah, they're not working for our benefit. And we're up against, I mean, there's a lot more of us, but we're for the most part sheep. You know, we look at this. It was definitely a controlled demolition of the building. It was also controlled demolition of our government, our society, our way of life as well, isn't it?

47:08Yeah. That's the key. And that's why, you know, it's amazing that of all the senators that have come and gone, we've only got one that is even interested in listening to this and taking a look at it. Everybody else is interested in that. Maybe they've had a talking too. I don't know, but it is, I'm glad to see that Ron Johnson is going to take this on and run with it. Hopefully he will and hopefully he'll get some traction because that's to me the most amazing thing. We look at these absurd lies that they put out and because people are trained to listen to authority figures or trained to listen to peer pressure and all the rest of this stuff. Now we have these massive engines of generating consent, we call social media as well as the mainstream media that's been there for a long time. It truly is an uphill struggle. And I know you've been at the center of this thing now for 25 years, or I guess you get into it, five years afterwards. But yeah, you've been doing it for 20 years and it absolutely is insane that people still believe the official story.

48:14It really is. I can't I can't understand that myself, but I'm you know, we were sort of living in a bubble in the truth community where we're talking to maybe 20, 30, maybe 40% of the American public seems like they have the other ones hand cuffed and brainwashed. And those are the people that somehow one by one one neuron at a time. But when you when you look at things like loose change that Jason Burmese did and I remember talking to Joe Biggs and he was actually I think in Iraq, Iraq or Afghanistan when he saw that. He said it's not anything about it. He wasn't really but he's just desperate for something to watch because he's got some time off. He watches that thing and just one movie like that can really change somebody's mind. That's why what you're doing is so important. When you put together all of these presentations, these documentaries, these this series of investigations with the court stuff, I think that you know once somebody sees that you can't unsee it.

49:21And then once you realize that they pulled the wall over your eyes for so long on such a key issue like this, that really brings people around. And so that is the that is the real issue is the payoff that you get when somebody finally wakes up. Because we got to think where we were before we woke up. That's right. I had fallen so all of the official story hook line in sinker and man when I heard David Ray Griffin on the radio in 2006 talk about the story. And I heard that David Ray Griffin's story in 2006 talk about this. I sort of could make sense the logic of what he was talking about but I never knew a building a third building came down. They didn't talk about that. I'm one of 90,000 members of the American Institute of Architects. We didn't get one bulletin on this, the third worst structural failure in modern history after the twin towers. My worldview just started turning upside down. It's like, wait a minute. I've been lied to personally. I took it personally. I got real angry. I've been deceived. The whole world

50:26had been deceived. I can't just sit on this. I can't turn away from it. I got to talk about it. And it's been non-stop now. I mean, a thousand presentations in 24 countries. It just never stops. Maybe we are getting somewhere, David. Maybe the neurons are waking up out there at a right and a methodology that we don't understand. A higher power at work. We just hope after putting one foot in front of the other for so long that it will just break here. And that's what we're expecting turning the tide 9-11 in New York City, September 10 through 13th, 40 speakers. The four days, it's got to turn everything around. Open everything up. Break the wall of denial out there. I agree. And when you get people awake on one particular part of it, right? If you can point

51:28out to them that, hey, all these things have to go off in a very precise timing or it's not going to go straight down. You get a little bit of a wedge like that in there. They're going to tell me a little bit more. They get a little bit more of this stuff. And pretty soon, once they really get the bigger picture here, like I said, they're not going to look at an official narrative the same way ever again. I think that's the key thing. The guy I was joking about said, he looks like Fouchy I was thinking as you were talking about this, just how horrific this has been. And to know if you were somebody like him and you know that the official story is a lie and you've watched these people get away with this for decades, something that murdered your family member. It just really is going to be infuriating. It's just amazing. So sad. Yeah, I'd be on fire myself. And many of the the family members are the Jersey girls force the Bush administration to get the 9-11 commission

52:29going through sheer. I don't know the word determination. I guess. Well, that for sure, but the emotions behind that determination. Yeah. It's amazing. Just bear. Yeah. It is. Anger. And it makes me equally angry to see I didn't have anybody that I knew that died in any of these things. But you know, to see the horrific things like that one guy who jumped out, the one that was a fire, and you see him going headfirst down, just the horrific personal stories with that. But when we look at what is being done to our country, that is the other thing. This is going to be a generational thing. It's going on for a very long time. They have been planning and plotting and practicing this thing for decades. And everything is coming out according to plan. That is what it's so infuriating about all this stuff that these guys are winning with this. So we got to turn this stuff around. I really do hope that people will go to this. And I'm sure,

53:33you know, go to your website as well, which is Richard Gage 911 dot org. People can find where they can get the tickets for that. They can also see where there's going to be additional resources that they can get movies that I guess that are going to be available for purchase that are going to be coming out of that. That tells a little bit about some of the information resources that you have if people can't make it to the convention that's coming up. Yeah. Well, first of all, it'll be live streamed. Clayton Morris's redacted platform. So millions will be able to see it redacted on YouTube Clayton Morris. And yes, we'll be showing some brief bits of the 911 crime scene to courtroom, the docu-series that we showed you a trailer of at the conference. Well, but you can see all six episodes at Richard Gage 911 dot org and get you find your way to the

54:35website for the crime scene series. It is pretty darn good. We're submitting it through film hub to Amazon Netflix, et cetera, this week. So we're hoping to get that scene out there in big time. In that's great. Yeah, you can probably get it on tubi as well. Tubi is a service like that. There's ads that are embedded in it. So yeah, you don't have any problem with YouTube censoring you. I've had lost five channels, but I just put up another one because they say YouTube is decreasing their censorship. I've heard that. Yeah, they get some some people who criticize and for politicians and they said, well, you're all different now. It's like, yeah, I'm kind of still skeptical about that. Yeah, but they're shadow-bending everybody. So they're not taking your, maybe they got sued. They can't take down your channel for those reasons anymore COVID and Charlie Kirk and 911, but they can make sure nobody sees your stuff.

55:38Yeah, that's how it works on X for the most part, isn't it? Yeah, but I have some more stuff on X. And you've got some excellent things that you've been up. I would encourage people to follow you on X on Twitter and on your social media. Richard Gage, Richard Gage and underscore 911 is our Twitter handle. Good. Yeah, well, we got a couple of minutes left. I don't want to take advantage of all the time that we have with you. Anything else that you want to tell us a little bit about? We talked about the fact that it's going to primarily focus on New York, but you do have some people going to be talking about the other events as well, right? The other events. Pentagon or 93. Oh, the other 911 events. Yeah, Barbara Hanager is one that is of the experts on the Pentagon that we had four experts on with widely diverging evidence and

56:38theories about what did or didn't hit the Pentagon. And Gail and I had a one of the first things we did when we went independent from the 11 truth was to host this 12-hour conference with two-hour presentations from each of these folks, David Chandler and Wayne Costy on one part who are presenting the evidence that a plane a 757 did hit the Pentagon. Barbara Hanager taking the theory and evidence that a plane never hit the Pentagon but was shot down immediately before it did but 100 yards west of the explosion area. Inner theory. And then we had Craig McKee and Zana Arena making the case that the plane

57:40came in but that it flew over the Pentagon. And then there were explosions that went off then. So it's fascinating to follow all of these different theories but I'm sure that well there's been there's been quite a bit of disagreement but all of us agree that Hanager the alleged hijacker could not have flown the plane that did those maneuvers that we described earlier like a fighter jet. He failed Cessna flying school. I mean the things they try to get us to believe are extraordinary. And this again that one was highly defended building in the world. That's right. They got surface to air missiles. Why remember hearing some of the pilots for 9-11 truth and one of the guys that they had with them was a guy who had been a flight instructor for that very plane. And he said there's absolutely no way that that plane could fly that kind of

58:42path that they're telling you that it flew. It's just not capable of it. It would can handle that kind of speed, that kind of stress. And it is also kind of interesting. What they make of the issue that they didn't see the expected engine parts there. We have news reports that came out and the guy says it's really strange. Let's see the engine here. Later on the engine did show up. Some other aircraft parts but initially when they got there they weren't there. Yeah. The evidence is extraordinarily weak and manipulated. And they have videos of surely. I mean the most highly defended building in the world. They have dozens and dozens of videos that they never released. They only released one from the guard shack with just a few frames with what they say is a plane which some argue is indeed a plane. But they should show us.

59:44You said only one or two frames. I mean it's not like you know typically you have a minimum of like 24 frames per second. They've only got like one or two frames. So it's obviously manipulated as well. Yeah. And we have the same set of questions with regard to flight 93 where there are witnesses and evidence that a plane was shot down by a fighter jet. And the majority of the debris didn't land in the hole in the ground. The smoking crater. But eight miles away. And there's witnesses of a missile with wings that flew low to the ground over a tree and blew up in the area where the the smoking crater ended up being. So we do know that one of those pilots that supposedly

1:00:44intercept was sent out intercepted one of those pilots is now the chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's an interesting career path. One of the Air Force pilots. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was named Dan Kane. Is that the guy who's a chair? Dan Kane was a jet fighter pilot. Yeah. You did. Which jet fighter are we talking about though? The ones who were sent out to intercept 93. Oh 93 huh. Well yeah. One of those guys said we got in order to shoot it down and we did. I don't I haven't assembled this evidence like the building 7 and twin towers evidence. But people are pretty sure about this. We need to do another gale and another similar with everybody who has something to say about 93 like we did four five years ago for the Pentagon. Yeah. They've created this entire mythology around it.

1:01:47Besides all the disinformation how they. It is amazing. It is full spectrum and only the US government I think it pull off something like this. So that's another indication of an inside job isn't it? And who benefited from this? It certainly is an amazing story and one that impacts each and every one of us. Even if we didn't have loved ones who died in this. We're all impacted by this and our entire society has been changed by this. This is why I call it our modern Reichstag fire. This is far more sophisticated than anything the Nazis pulled off. Yeah. It is. I'm afraid of where it's going. What's the next one going to be a false flag? A nuclear bomb going off in Los Angeles blamed on Iran. Yeah. That that that that's that's seems like what they need to have their dream come true of nuking Iran which they've been talking about in the last

1:02:49few days. Maybe I'll just we didn't get to the lower row here. Richard Grove is on the the bottom row here. He is a he'll be speaking at the conference turning the tide in New York and he will be exposing the crimes the financial crimes occurring on and before 9-11. Oh yeah. Isn't that interesting? Yeah. That is nobody investigated that today. Well they we have in the government. Yeah. Other people let us know about it. God. For instance, the securities in exchange commission lost thousands of files related to hundreds of cases they were pursuing on the 12th floor in the 13th floor of building seven. But because that building went down all of a sudden world-com and and and run were were stopped. This is a huge financial criminals and crimes

1:03:53that were just stopped. I didn't realize that it impacted the in-run investigation. That's interesting. Yeah. Well those were the worst fires in building seven. Many believe they were set on purpose in on the 12th floor for that reason. We have Carol Broulay, Mike Berger and others who were around before I ever woke up. They were screaming inside job with lots of evidence to support it. And the beginning of the 9-11 truth movement with particularly the website 9-11 truth.org. And those folks will be coming to share what it was like in the early days after 9-11. When we were trying to go to war, right? The drums, the war led by the media were extraordinary.

1:04:54So this was not an environment conducive to speaking 9-11 truth. They got shut down hard, cold, fast. But they persevered though. But their message did not reach audiences right away. The 9-11 truth movement sort of peaked in 2006, 7, 8, 9, where we were being asked to go all over Europe and sponsored by people who cared activists all around the world. Yeah because it doesn't just affect America. This is a global issue. Look at how they have used this. And of course, America's got such a big footprint. And when we kick somebody, it's the boot heard around the world, I never heard that. It's true. Yeah, it's crazy. Just the fact that they've been able to get away with this for 25 years. But the truth will eventually go around the world as they say, you know,

1:05:54like, you can go around the world before the truth can get its pants on. And so we had to take this thing one leg at a time. And thank you so much for your persistence and all of this and your very learned investigation about all this. You've put together the real facts here. And people really need to hear this. I mean, the truth needs to be let out. And so thank you for doing that. I really appreciate it. Again, it is turning the tide that is coming up. And the dates on that are the 10th through the was it 12th 13th 13th, okay, 10th through 13th and New York. But of course, people be able to find this if they go to Richard Gage 911 dot org and find out more about the physical conference. You can find out all kinds of resources and how you can stream that there. Thank you so much for joining us Richard. You're welcome, David. Glad to be here. Thank you. Glad to have you on. Thank you. Keep up the good fight. Well, do. Thank you. The Common Man. They created Common Core, a dumb down our children. They created Common Past,

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