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INTERVIEW | Make Money by Writing Books That Build Your Business
About this episode
What does it take to write a book that actually makes an impact? In this compilation episode, Travis brings together three bestselling authors and accomplished leaders—David Epstein, Dave Berke, and Mark Divine—to share their hard-earned lessons on writing, leadership, entrepreneurship, and building lasting credibility. From the disciplined writing process to the importance of authenticity and patience, this episode is packed with practical insights for anyone looking to create meaningful work that stands the test of time.
On this episode we talk about:
Why great books begin with deep research, thoughtful planning, and clear constraints
How military leadership principles translate directly into entrepreneurship and business
The challenges—and rewards—of writing a book that truly reflects your expertise
Why authenticity and personal experience matter more than writing a book just for credibility
How founders can build stronger businesses by hiring great leaders and focusing on their unique strengths
Top 3 Takeaways
The best writing happens long before the first draft—careful research, planning, and defining clear boundaries make the execution dramatically easier.
Leadership principles like humility, discipline, and ownership work across every environment, whether you're leading troops, running a company, or building a personal brand.
Don't write a book because you think you should. Write one because you have a unique perspective and a message that's compelling enough that it has to come out.
Notable Quotes
"Think slow, act fast."
"Everything worth doing is on the other side of a bunch of struggle."
"If you want to make money with your business as a founder, you ultimately have to get out of the way."
Connect with the Guests:
David Epstein
Website: https://davidepstein.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-epstein
Dave Berke
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/davidrberke/
Echelon Front: https://echelonfront.com
Mark Divine
Website: https://markdivine.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markdivine
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/realmarkdivine
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