INTERVIEW | Make Money by Mastering the Skill of Charisma with Olivia Fox Cabane

Olivia Fox Cabane is the best-selling author of The Charisma Myth and a former director of innovative leadership at Stanford. She has coached leaders at companies including Apple, Google, JPMorgan, and Airbnb, and has spent years studying the science behind charisma. In this episode, Olivia explains why charisma isn't an innate personality trait but a learnable skill, how presence, power, and warmth work together, and why mastering charisma may become even more valuable as AI makes knowledge and information increasingly accessible. On this episode we talk about: Why charisma is a learned behavior rather than an innate personality trait The three core components of charisma: presence, power, and warmth How to practice charisma in low-stakes situations and make presence a daily habit The potential downsides of charisma, including manipulation, envy, and convincing people when you're actually wrong How vocal fluctuation, online communication, and AI are changing the way charisma is perceived Top 3 Takeaways Charisma can be learned. Like any other skill, charisma may feel unnatural at first, but consistent practice can make it feel effortless over time. Start with presence. In a distracted world, simply giving someone your full attention can dramatically increase your impact. Olivia recommends practicing in everyday, low-stakes interactions. Use charisma with the right intent. Charisma can be incredibly powerful, but it can also manipulate or mislead people. The goal should be to create a better experience for everyone involved, not simply to control an interaction. Notable Quotes “Charisma is a series of learned behaviors.” “The world becomes your lab and every person you meet is a chance to experiment.” “If your intent is good and your impact is good, use everything at your disposal.” Connect with Olivia Fox Cabane: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oliviafoxcabane/ Other: The Charisma Myth  Website: https://www.oliviafoxcabane.com/ A Word from Our Sponsors: - Go to Leesa.com for 25% OFF select mattresses (through August 23, 2026) PLUS get an extra $50 off with promo code TMM, exclusive for my listeners  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices