Inside The OIG Interview: MCC Captain's Statement Detailing The Death Of Jeffrey Epstein (Part 1) (3/25/26)

0:00What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. As we continue to explore the death of Jeffrey Epstein, we have another deposition from a staff member from MCC, however we have no idea who this person is. All that we know is that they're a captain. So we're going to skip the part where they explain all the stuff about their military service previously and what they were doing before they joined the Bureau of Prisons and we're going to pick up with the conversation as they start discussing this captain and it's time at the MCC question, great. And when did you graduate from BOP training down at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center? Question I believe it was redacted question, okay, we don't have to go through it or I guess just briefly, I mean what positions have you held with the BOP? We don't have to go into each institution.

1:01Answer right. I started as five step one. I have with more responsibility, I was promoted to a through six, seven senior officer specialist. I was also a GL 9, a lieutenant, GL 11 lieutenant. I was a deputy captain, GL 12, I was also GL 13. And currently I am at GL 12 redacted at FCI for Dix, question, all right, great. Is it correct that you used to work at the MCC in New York City? Answer that's correct, question, all right. And what were your positions when you were at the MCC? Answer MCC, I was a captain, question, okay. And from what dates were you the captain? Question or answer, excuse me, I was a captain from September of, I believe it was the third 2018 all the way until June 25th of 2020. And okay, great. And then was that your first assignment as a captain? Answer, my first assignment as a captain was, I was a deputy captain at MDC Brooklyn.

2:04Question, okay. And then you got promoted and went to MCC. Answer yeah, question and what does the MCC stand for? Answer the Metropolitan Correctional Center. Question perfect and located at 150 Park Row, New York, New York. Answer that's correct. Question, thank you, sir. And as a captain, who would you consider your supervisor when you were at the MCC? Answer it would be at that point, at that time we were transitioning. Question, okay, answer. So I would normally, I would say to two people, which would be the AW of custody, which at that time was redacted. However, he was transitioning when the incident happened. It was redacted. Was the AW over custody at that time? And all right, so when you're talking about that time, are you talking about August 9th and August 10th of 2019? Answer that's correct, question, okay. So are you aware of redacted was still the AW in charge of custody at the time?

3:08Answer no, question, she was not, okay. Answer no, basically what it was again with the area of responsibility, it had changed prior to this incident. So that week redacted was going to be, even though her responsibility had changed. As the AW over custody and redacted, had appointed or instructed that redacted would then take over the responsibilities, but however, she was supposed to go on annual leave. Question, okay, answer. So at the time, Ms. Redacted was actually there as far as she was still in the capacity when the incident happened. Question, okay. Answer however, again, the previous question that you asked normally as my responsibility, I would notify the AW over custody and also I would have conversations with the warden. So it would just depend on what the situation may be. So if there was instance where I would run things through the chain from the AW to the warden and there were times that I would take direction directly from the warden.

4:12And okay, and as far as though in this instance, if you know being that August 9th and 10th, I believe that the first person you contacted, when you were, he interrupts was redacted. Question correct. And that was because the other AW was out. Is that what you're saying? Question my belief is that she was on annual leave, which was stated that we had closed out on that Friday that she would be starting annual leave. And okay, but as the other AW was, in fact, your supervisor at the time, answer yeah. Question okay, which you just said was you went with redacted because she was on answer. That's right. Question okay. Have you since learned anything about like, was that not correct? Answer well, what I realized is that once the incident had occurred, redacted responded to the institution at which time, her annual leave, I believe she canceled, her annual leave. And she assumed her position as the AW over custody.

5:14Question all right. How do you spell her last name? This whole next section redacted. Question perfect. Thank you. All right. So is it correct that you were interviewed by agents of the FBI and the DOJ OIG back when this instance occurred in August of 2019? Answer that's correct. Question great. I'm just going to go over the report that was written in a response to their conversation with you. Answer okay. Question we just want to go over for accuracy as well as to fill in some gaps that we found that we just need some clarification on. So I'm just going to read it and you stop me if there's anything that you find to be inaccurate. So you begin his career with the BOP in 2005 and 2014 he was transferred to the Metro Polletin Detention Center MDC in Brooklyn to captain at MDC his current position where he over or sorry answer yeah there's a lot missing in between there. Question yeah yeah so it says in Brooklyn I miss this line it says where he was made deputy

6:20captain in 2015. In 2018 redacted was promoted to captain at MCC his current position. Answer well yeah there was a little bit missing there because yeah I entered on duty and I started my career in redacted however I left redacted in redacted and that's when I went to redacted question okay answer and then from redacted to redacted I was there to 2014 and then from 14 I left redacted to go to MDC Brooklyn and then in 18 that's when I assume duties at MCC. Okay so they have so I guess you were transferred to the MDC in Brooklyn 2014 and in 2015 was when you were promoted to deputy captain answer that's correct question okay it says redacted directly supervises approximately redacted lieutenants does that compromise. Of all the lieutenants this was at the time was that all the lieutenants at the MCC answer

7:26correct question okay and has approximately redacted line staff correctional officers under his purview answer uh-huh well when you know when they say that what they understand is that under correctional services that was probably the amount of staff that was again in correctional services as subordinate staff however my direct supervision would have been over just the redacted lieutenants. And okay there are oh redacted lieutenants right I thought you were saying GS 13 gotcha redacted also sits on the institutions redacted which also includes the warden redacted primary duty is to ensure that security protocols are met by his lieutenants and sub staff and that policy guidelines are being followed as said fourth by the BOP answer correct question among others redacted is responsible for the following special housing unit lieutenant

8:28redacted is that correct answer correct question as an administrative lieutenant responsible for maintaining paperwork etc so when you say an administrative lieutenant here are you saying whoever was acting in the administrative lieutenant capacity answer no I wasn't basically administrative duties the administrative duty falls under the appointed shoe lieutenant the shoe lieutenant the appointed shoe lieutenant has certain duties that have to be done daily within the unit not just the supervision of the line staff that worked the unit but also overall of the running unit meaning that ensuring that all the paperwork is done question okay answer all security protocols are followed to ensure that inmates or run rosters to ensure that inmates are placed in the correct cells or in their proper cells to ensure that they're supposed to audit said rosters to ensure they have proper accountability of the inmates in the unit question so I guess what I was getting at is like how the shoe lieutenant was redacted

9:32was there a specific person that was the administrative lieutenant answer yeah the administrative lieutenant at the time was redacted question and you happen to know how to spell that last name answer it's redacted question thank you sir NSIS lieutenant responsible for paperwork and who was that answer which was the lieutenant redacted question and redacted common spelling answer yeah question okay and operations in activities lieutenants answer which on the day of the incident question yeah and would you like to see the duty roster for August 9th in August 10th answer yeah question no okay do you know who it was answer so I believe the morning watch lieutenant when the incident occurred was lieutenant what is her damn name I just said her name question I can show you this answer yeah question so I'm showing you a duty agent roster from a daily assignment roster

10:35from Friday August 9th 2019 as well as one from Saturday August 10th 2019 and you can keep them in front of you for the interview just so you can we're going to talk about people so you can reference the two answer right all right so it appears here it would have been redacted would have been the operations lieutenant on Saturday August 10th 2019 question and is it redacted answer redacted question yeah lane perfect and what time did you work from answer at the time the shift they were working is a different schedule the schedule was I believe it was 10 to 6 question okay so 10 to 6 on August 9th to oh 600 on August 10th answer that's correct question and then I'm assuming there was another administrative lieutenant at the you know the when Epstein was discovered and I think that was a little after 6am correct answer that is yeah that was actually the operations lieutenant

11:37which was redacted lieutenant redacted he informed me or I guess he became aware of the incident I believe at 6.30 in the morning question okay and so I already asked the operations lieutenant it says the operations lieutenant and the activities lieutenant are responsible for day-to-day operations and maintaining order for three shifts and an emergency preparedness lieutenant a collateral duty responsibility in the event of an emergency incident such as fires bombs threats etc so was there during these instances was there emergency preparedness lieutenant answer yes question who was that answer I believe it was lieutenant redacted all right folks we're gonna wrap up right here and in the next episode dealing with the topic we're gonna pick up where we left off all of the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box