Inside The OIG Interview: MCC Captain's Statement Detailing The Death Of Jeffrey Epstein (Part 2) (3/25/26)

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1:00Question was redacted off that day, though. Answer redacted was, I believe, at the time his schedule of the shoe lieutenants were not working on the weekends. Answer or question, okay, answer. They worked Monday through Friday. I believe it was 7.30 to 4. Question, okay, answer. So redacted was on military, he was on leave. He had military leave because he had his monthly drill. Monthly drill that he would attend. Question, okay, do you know if he was on leave both on August 9th and August 10th or August 10th? You said he wouldn't have worked, but was on August 9th? Answer, let me see here. Question and you can just say was he on the schedule? Answer, yes. So I mean, right here, I'm looking at the roster for Friday, August 9th, and I believe that the shoe lieutenant post was left unassigned for that Friday. Question, all right, so that would just lead us to believe he was not there, correct? Answer, that's correct, he was not there, no.

2:02Question, great. And what his position had been like, you know, was there someone that was placed in the acting role when he was gone? Answer, normally due to our staffing at MCC at that point, or at that time, we tried to ensure that, you know, looking over the roster, to ensure that someone was within there, the supervising unit. But again, due to the shortage of lieutenants at the time, I had to, as monitoring or looking at the roster, I would try to place areas of importance. So operations lieutenant, ensure that the activities lieutenant was filled. And at the time, that particular day, he wasn't on the roster, or that post was left unassigned. Question and that post, like you said, isn't assigned on the weekends? Answer, no. Question, so Saturday, great. Answer, no, it's not. Question, all right. Redacted advice that a staff provide special consideration for high-profile inmates, if deemed appropriate and designated as such. In order to ensure an inmate is provided with proper care,

3:05the facility evaluates the inmate using several measures, including mental, physical, medical, psychological, and sexual assault victim or predator assessments. Since different inmates are admitted with different criteria, appropriate housing varies. Answer, correct. Question, all right. Redacted, interacted with inmate Jeffrey Epstein on approximately three occasions at MCC, all of which Epstein maintained a pleasant demeanor. Answer, correct. Question, during the first instance, Epstein, asked redacted, who he was, and redacted responded by introducing himself and explaining his position at the jail. During another instance, redacted, explained to Epstein, the policy regarding meals during attorney sessions, and made certain that Epstein was accommodated with water, visits to the restroom, et cetera. So did he receive? And I know it's my understanding that he was most days in with his attorneys.

4:06Answer, yes. So most days from the time that a attorney visitation would open inmate Epstein was in that area, primarily until it closed. Question, all right. And that's where it says Epstein spent most of the day with his defense counsel, and was brought down as soon as the attorney visit opened. So would that be like Monday through Friday or Monday? That's seven days a week. Answer, that's seven days a week. Question, all right. So was it almost every day? Answer every day. Question, and his food was brought to him there then. Answer, no. Question, okay. How would you obtain his food? Answer, now as far as food, I know, and like I said, it's been a while, normally inmates do not eat while they're in visitation. Question, okay. Answer, they're provided water. They're provided to go to the bathroom. The inmate, you know, is afforded the meal. However I believe that he was offered meals from the vending machine, but I'm not sure.

5:07Question, okay. Answer, I can't remember as far as because I didn't remember. There was an issue with that, and I know we tried to accommodate or address it. I just can't remember what was done. Question, would the attorneys be allowed to bring in food? Answer, no. Question, no. Answer, no. No outside food would have been allowed in. Question, okay. Answer, so I can tell you if he was actually getting a tray during that time, I can't remember. But I do remember there were conversations that, and I know we did something in order to ensure that the inmate was provided some type of meal or whatever I can't remember. Question, sure. All right, that's fine. As far as the mentions to visits, do you remember anything about the third visit that you made with Epstein? Answer, the third one. So that night on, that would be Friday, August 9th of 2019. I believe I had worked that day close to eight.

6:07It was about eight or so. Question, APM. Answer, APM. Question, okay. Answer, so I was actually on my way and exited, you know, went and talked to the operations and activities lieutenants. You know, let them know I was leaving for the day. And when I reached the elevator on the third floor, it made Epstein was being escorted out of the attorney visit by his unit manager. Question, okay, and who was that? Answer, which that was, I believe, redacted. At which time, I, you know, I said hello. How you doing, Mr. Epstein? And he was like, okay, so he had asked me and he said, Captain, is it okay if I got a telephone call? Now mind you, we had already discussed that. When the inmate, he would reasonably attempt to always facilitate a phone call for the inmate, especially while him being housed in the shoe. So I said to the redacted, I said redacted, are you going to the shoe? He said, yeah, I said, well, are you going to be able to monitor the call with the inmate?

7:08And he was like, yeah, I got no problem with that. I said, well, I don't have a problem. Just make sure that you follow the protocols and the protocol is that when the inmate is allowed to use the phone, it has to be monitored by staff and the number and who they're talking to has to be placed in a log. Question, okay, answer, so I said, make sure that takes place, I'm good with it. So that's when I got in the elevator and I exited the institution. Question, all right, so this conversation happened with redacted in front of Mr. Epstein. Answer, yes, it did. Question, okay, and that's the point where, okay, so did you authorize that call to be made from the shoe? Answer, yes. Question, was there a certain line that they should have used? Answer, yes, it's a secure line. You have two lines. You know, you can plug it in to the outgoing and then it's the jack that's just for inside of the institution calls or you can put it into the other jack which allows those calls to be outgoing.

8:09Question, would the call have been a legal line? Answer, yeah, it would be just an out. This would be an out. Question, okay, answer, outline. And they're not recorded, is the question? Answer, right. Question, and that's why you said, make sure they got cut off by the guard, yeah. And did you tell them at all the document that was cut off again? Yes, I told them to ensure that he is present, that the protocol of what the protocol is. Because I asked him, I said, look, I said, make sure that you're present at the phone call. I said, make sure that it's logged. And when you dial the number, the number you have to likes down the line and he said, he says, well, I want to call my attorney, who is your attorney, so on and so on. Okay, when they answer the phone, I said, this is MCC, my name is so and so, I have a call for Jeffrey Epstein. What is your name and what is your title? So we can log it and the time that it's logged.

9:12And then you give the phone to the inmate and then you sit there while they're on the phone. Question, and you know if that was done, answer again, I don't know, question you don't know. Answer, I just insured, that's it. Like I said, that's why I asked him, I said, are you going to the shoe? Are you going to be able to monitor the phone call? Tyler Reddick here from 2311 Racing, victory lane? Yeah, it's even better with Chamba by my side. Race to ChambaCasino.com, let's Chamba. No purchase necessary, VTW Group, void, we're prohibited by law, CT and C's, 21 plus, sponsored by ChambaCasino. Question, but you don't know, he gets cut off by the guard. He didn't say yes, question, if you wrote anything up, answer, I don't know what he did. Question, okay, answer, I just insured that I told him. Question, sure, answer, what needed to be done? Question and what would typically happen with that log after he logged it, answer the phone call?

10:15Question, sure, answer or that log? Question like after he documented it, answer, it would be maintained, just in a log, question, okay, answer, it wouldn't be brought for anyone's review, you know? It would just be like, hey, did Epstein get a call? Yeah, I could tell you, so I can pull the book and then I can tell you and look when he was given a call. Question, so it goes into a specific Epstein file? Answer, yeah, no, it wouldn't. It doesn't go into a file, it goes into a book, it goes into a book for monitored calls, for all the inmates and legal calls. Question for all inmates, so not just Epstein. Answer, that's correct. It would be a green log book, you know? And it would have the name of the inmate and who they called the number, the time. I don't know if the duration is on there, but it would be a person who also monitored the call, so you know all that information. But it wasn't something like a form that was filled out and then it was placed in the inmates file

11:15or a central file. Question, and do you know if that log book was filled out? Answer, I don't know. Question, you don't know, okay? When you met with Epstein on that night, how was his demeanor? Answer, it was fine, he was cheerful. Question, he was cheerful. Answer, you know, he didn't look disheveled because I asked him, I said, how you doing? You all right? He said, man, I'm good, everything is fine. And I said, do you have a good visit? He said, yeah, everything is fine, Cap. I said, all right, man. Question, okay. No cause for concern. Answer, no, because every time we had that interaction, it was always pleasant. He was never negative. Question, okay, it says redacted was made aware of the possibility that Epstein would be housed at MCC in advance of Epstein's arrival. Redacted was not present when Epstein was admitted to the facility. Epstein was thoroughly vetted to determine if he was fit for general population and he was ultimately placed in the special housing unit.

12:15MCC places inmates under three categories of close supervision. One, dry cell for those at risk of smuggling contraband, two, psychological observation, and three, suicide watch. Is that all correct? Answer, yeah, at the time. Question, okay, so who made the decision to place them in the special housing unit specifically and why? Answer, okay, so basically the rationale for placement of the inmate in the special housing unit would have been a decision that was ultimately made by the warden. They would have took the critical or criteria of the inmate. They would have been, okay, well, what's his risk? You know, what would the likelihood of him being endangered if he would be placed in general population? His culpability. Can he cope while being inside of a general housing unit? So the determination was between medical health services, oh, I'm sorry, health services, psychology, and the warden. Question and who was the warden at the time?

13:17Answer, it was redacted, question, and do you know how to spell that last name? Answer, it would be redacted. Question, thank you, sir. Are there any other secure housing units within the MCC? Answer, there is only one secure housing unit. That's the shoe. All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up right here and in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're gonna pick up where we left off. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box. Tyler Reddick here from 2311 Racing. The rush of racing, nothing beats it, but Chumpa Casino comes close. Chumpa's got fast spins, fun games, daily bonuses, and all the action you can handle. Now, that's a ride. Ready to hit the throttle? Get in the driver's seat and head to chumpacasino.com. Let's chumpa. Sponsored by Chumpa Casino, no purchase necessary, VGW Group Void where prohibited by law, 21 plus terms and conditions apply.