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India, it is your day, your year, your century. You are the T20 World Cup champions, colossally dominant, too good. You came, you saw, you conquered. It's the type of World Cup win that Indians have been yearning for and the type of World Cup win that the rest of the globe has feared. We have all been fathered. You are the fathers. Thus, I think we can all agree. This calls for a bud. Yes, in the game itself, 255 played nowhere near enough. And I'll bring Alex Malcolm in from Crick infos shortly. But the names you like did the things you like in this game. Come and bathe in it with us for the next 20 to 25 minutes. Whether we're happy or whether you think we're crying, salty,

Australia tears, the fact is a shout out to TGC here. We will narrate the game for you. So if you're feeling as an Indian, charitable, strong, alpha, dominant, why don't you shoot us a like and a subscribe? You know, because we will always narrate Indian wins. And I get the feeling there's going to be quite a lot, quite a lot, into the future. Something broke last night. I feel for the rest of the world. And something ascended for India, a clavicular style. Now in here goes his parental absence. I'm joined by ESPN Crick infos Alex Malcolm. A voice of reason, a voice of analysis. Indeed, a voice of safety. Welcome, Alex Malcolm. Thank you, Pez. Lovely to be here. Trying to fill out the small meeting poll over. Not quite as well as Pez it does. Sorry, as he goes does. Oh, absolutely. That's fine. Yeah. Yeah, no, great win for India. It's so good. It really, it really was too good. Let's have a look at the scores if you're using this show to find out what happened.

Sam, the set Indian on a red black soil, black soil, who gives a shit, pitch. And, um, an Indian made five for 255. And... You felt on this. And I think they left some. It genuinely felt on this. The way, I'm sorry about this to worry, by the way, it is unbecoming of some of your stature. But, um, yeah, like, it actually felt very mechanical in a way. Like, it felt like that the way they constructed 255. Like, if you wake up in the morning and see the scores, and that's not me, because I watch every ball. But if you are one of those people, you would be like, they must have absolutely gone ballistic. But they didn't. It's like, um, I actually wonder whether like, this Indian white ball team have now, in on a couple of occasions, like 250, is that the new 200? Is that, is that, is that par now on these decks? Because they just went about their work, really.

I didn't feel like it was fireworks. No, and yeah, they genuinely lost their weight, losing three. Yeah. With a sit-in over, two to four tosses from Jimmy Nees. It is incredible what they've done in the last two games. And even against England, it felt like they lost their way at times in that innings as well. So they are taking it to new heights. Yeah, it's staggering the way they have set this team up. And I think it speaks to the value of the IPL and the importance of how that has created an enormous depth in T20 cricket. And they have just taken T20 cricket to another level and probably two or three rungs up everybody else at the moment. And how the rest of the world is going to catch up to them is, is hard to understand or hard to wrap your head around. I think it's very, very concerning for the rest of the world to, to try and come up with a game plan that's going to beat them, particularly in those conditions. So do I deduce from what you're saying that it's time to introduce India A?

Like, is it, is it genuinely fair to say that like, the best competitor to this Indian team would be India 2s? No, but I think the, you know, England ran them close, obviously, but they're going to have to come up with... They flattered to deceive a little bit. They did, they did. They're going to have to... They keep saying that England, sorry to interrupt, but they are saying that a lot England. They India won that game quite comfortably. No, yeah, those last three strikes from Archimane, the school would look a little bit better than it was. Yeah, I just think the rest of the world has the capabilities. I mean, it's not everything that built them in the super-rides. So there's the skill set there amongst players elsewhere. They just don't have the reps and the types of competition that the IPO has in terms of domestic leagues that is going to allow the next generation of players to come up to that, to rise to that level and be able to compete. It will be interesting to see what India does when they have a boomer of finishes, because, you know, the teams that are playing against India

are playing with 16 overs rather than 20, and that makes it a little bit harder. But still, the power and the consistency of the ball striking and just the ability to continue to go. And as you say, it didn't even look like they were trying to go hell for leather swinging out of their shoes. It was just elite T20 batting over and over and over again. And New Zealand didn't have an answer. If we could look at the scorecard, Chuck, to your point, Alex, like... In the first two overs, they made 12 runs in India. And at the end of the power play, they had 92. I mean, there's a lot of wilds there, but there were a lot of zacks, as you say. I mean, 80 runs off the next four overs, a couple of them coming from Jacob Duffy, who comes into the team for, you know, the king of cricket, you know, the great like slayer of teams, Colma Conkey. I mean, that is a, that's New Zealand.

New Zealanders everywhere are waking up going, where was Maconkey? It's a great night for Colma Conkey. He's no one has ever looked better. No one's had a better night than Colma Conkey. Not even... Not even Jay Shah. Not even Jay Shah. Jay Shah was dignified, I felt. Sorry, come on, yeah, they've... No one's had a better night than Colma Conkey. Yeah, for a team like New Zealand, who build themselves on getting the most out, being better than the sum of their parts, and tactically, squeezing every ounce of advantage they can have, working every matchup to the right angle to give them the best advantage, and the best chance to compete in games like that, for them not to play Maconkey, and to bowl one over of spin in the power play, one over of Ospin, which goes for five runs against a team that has struggled against Ospin or tournament, a team that had struggled at times against Spin. And even in the game, I mean, they only bowled New Zealand bowl. What did they bow? They bowled seven overs of Spin all up.

Six of those went for 30... Well, five of them went for 38 runs between Philips and Santana. Revindra was expensive, but he knocked over Abishak. It doesn't make any sense why they went that way. It seems odd, and then Duffy, unfortunately, comes in pretty much cold, didn't play in the semi-final. Obviously, he hadn't played a lot in the tournament. And as we know, again, from a tactics perspective, if you're going to bowl pace on high pace, which Duffy has, so Sanju Sanption, you don't pitch up to him, you go back up on links. Everyone knows that. He's ball full slot and getting hammered, they were half-follies. Now, it might have been a case where the occasion, the crowd will cut fine or being underdone coming in, you're going to miss execution. That can happen, and you've got to have some sympathy for that, but the tactical decisions don't make any sense. It's far too logical. I'm quite embarrassed, really, at how good that analysis is. I mean, I don't feel like it's a time to go through the anatomy of the game.

In fact, I feel like I feel like what we really should do, contractually and otherwise, is put the show on the hands of fans, which, thanks to Budweiser, by the way, who are putting the show on the hands of fans. So let's say what the fans have to say after this, has Skye become the first captain to win the World Cup doing nothing but chewing gum? Are you running to Finch yesterday? How's he going, Budweiser? Yeah, exactly, exactly. No, we're all celebrating yesterday. India's win, by the way. We all got together about 4.30 a.m., and just decided to host to India's victory. But I mean, this happens, right? I mean, Skye will be happy. He's a World Cup winning captain. And, okay, he didn't do it off his bat, off his own bat, but got it done. So I don't really think that drive-by is... No, he was a World Cup player, actually. I think the inclusion of that post is disgraceful. So what's the next one? Big fan of Jay Shah going full-jong terry after the final weekend. That's it, they're your words. They're not mine.

Oh, it's not how I saw it at all. Great. Skip rider in the game, Jay Shah. Next. In tie. Okay, you're listening. I think this really sums it up. Entire Nation Fathered Anzac. So throwing us in there as well. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, look, absolutely, it occurs to me that if you win, you become a dad, which is, you know, so he goes as the greatest winner, you know, in the last week. But to the victor goes to spoils, online as well. You know, if you today is your day, India, like this is what it's all about. You are our fathers today. I have heard people say this atones for November 19, 2023, and what happened at MDB. Now, I don't want to like, rake up old graves, but doesn't this highlight how fucked that was? Like, doesn't this actually bring into focus

how bad it lost that was? I don't think it erases it. It highlights it further. How wrong it felt for India, and how right it felt for everybody else. So, yeah, I mean, I do reject that, but this isn't about November 19. And if you want to make it about November 19, that's fine. But I don't want to, I don't want to rake that up. I don't think you'll, I don't, yeah, it's just a World Cup win for India. It's good. What's next? He goes back. Jared Higgins, that is. No, Makonki, no play. I mean, that's exactly who's next. He's born with the greatest ever to play T20 cricket. I'll hand that over to you. I mean, he's done it again here. Alex, like, he's taken forfer with like, just some unbelievable slowballs at the death. I mean, like, he actually, the game's over when he takes his wickets, but he actually gets flowers, boomerangs. And so often in this tournament, we've seen Sky put, you know, put boomer on ice when the game's over. He doesn't actually get the chance off and to get the spoils of his success.

And he does in this game, which is richly deserved. But like, I can't remember a player for whom if you switched him to the other side, the game completely flips on its head, such is his, how decisive he is in the results of games. And we, you know, I said it on the show before, but like, it isn't just what he does with the ball. It's what everybody has to do because of the prospect of boomer coming. That changes the game so much. So is he the best at playing T20 cricket? I mean, I don't know, probably. But like, you're having him in that game, you know, if we've got all the best, you know, the Titans of T20 cricket, he's playing and he's probably dominating too. Yes, I think he is. I think he is. I mean, when you talk about India taking batting in T20 cricket to a new level and scoring 250 like it's nothing. And he's out there taking, I mean, the greatest, what was it? One for 33 in the semi-final ever. And then he backs it up with four for 15 in this game. Four for 15 when in the first innings,

they made 250, which said something about the deck, which is fine by the way. How do you face him though? Like, so he's got 140 swinging full seam up in the kit bag. And first ball, you're looking for that. And then at the last, like, he does not give any clues on the offspineless level. None. Like most bikes will give a clue somewhere on the way around. And he literally flicks his fingers at release, which is already 30 centimeters, according to ball tracking data, closer than anybody else. How do you make the adjustment? And of course, the last first ball in the semi and first ball in the final from him. Slile ball to two really good players in Brook and Ravindra. And then through the shot, straight up in the air, out to the latter, like, under enormous pressure, because he's taken a week at first ball and suddenly the walls are closing. It's staggering what he can do in white ball cricket and then and we've seen what he's done in test cricket too. It defies belief and I don't know how

guys set up to him, because you can't set up for the Slile ball. It's not as if you're facing when the guys face Nathan Ellis, for example, they set up for Slile ball and then you can react to the onspeak. Because the onspeeds only one, you know, low 130s. In Bumerous case, the onspeeds nearly 140 and swinging. So how do you set up for the Slile ball? And also when you don't get it. Get full of it. Look at it. I mean, it's staggering. It must be so hard. And I have so much sympathy for the guys who have to face it. It's amazing in their like the portfolio of slower balls around the world these days, whether you're at the back of the hand or you're knuckleballing it or you're rolling, you're almost like a leg cutter out. Like the offspinner slower ball is almost like the elementary beginner slower ball for everybody. That's usually the easiest to pick. And that it's like that's all Bumer needs and it's the best slower ball in the world. He doesn't even need, he doesn't even need to get funky with it. But it's almost like his action is so a rhythmic and hard to line up that that's kind of all he needs. And yeah, I mean, he's...

What words are left for this guy? I mean, he's in every single best team that you could possibly put together. Is it even his best format? I don't know. I will not be celebrating hands that ADC. So, yeah, I mean, I don't want to... I mean, Aussies aren't even at this party. We've been home for months. Teddy was playing at Karen Rotten on Sunday. He was one of his shulks. So, at least the Kiwis are there. I don't want to stick knife into the Kiwis. Look, at least they were there. I mean, it really took a guess, I think, with their selections and the performance. I think it was underperformance from New Zealand, but it is India's day, so we'll talk India for once. Yeah, I mean, is it even worth going through the anatomy of this game? I think we've covered the power play. I think it was... Like, I genuinely watched it. I watch every game, but I did. And I had...

I retained probably some now foolish hope at the halfway stage that if the deck was as pure as it appeared and if Finale and Tim Syff could get off to a blistering start that maybe, as England did, like maybe New Zealand could take it deep. Now, like, they were always going to need to be perfect and they weren't. But it feels like this win is a bit more macro than the details of the game. Like, I just think what is the meaning of this victory? It is India beginning to deliver on the thing that the world has feared, which is like colossal dominance and bullying, really, of the opposition. It was kind of... It felt kind of easy, right? It felt like they were too good from the start and New Zealand were the Washington generals, really. And like, you got a hand at doing it just for the skill that they can offer.

But I feel like that's the meaning. Today, it's like the promise of India is really starting to manifest now. Yeah, the scary part for me is this format is the highest variance format, right? So there is the most capability of chaos and losing a one-off shootout can happen more often in this format than any other. And yet, in the one-off shootouts, there's so good they can go up a gear. You know, if... Heaven forbid, if they'd lost this game and there might have been a cause for, you know, best of three final series in the next T-20 World Cup or something like that. But they don't need it. They're at least sitting there. They don't need it. If you think about other sports, particularly American sports, they have a best of seven final series. And it doesn't... I mean, India just played in New Zealand in a five-match series before this in 1-4-1, made 200 plus in four of these games. So their ability to do it in all different ways, too. I mean, Sandra Samson has been sensational in the last three games.

But then Abishek turns up. Ishin Kitchen turns up. We've seen Dubay do it. We've seen Tehran Varma play a role. And Sarah Kummer had, I didn't have a big tournament. Like, he has been... It's almost scary. Yeah, it is frightening. And they've had contributors with the ball. Akshaar comes into the party this time and plays a pretty important part in the power play. It's so impressive. And then you think about the pipeline of players that are coming through below that, particularly even out of the under-9 games as well. But also in the IPL, we're going to get a good look at that coming up in the next few weeks, the next couple of months. But they just have so much depth in each position. And they are with the exception of boomerang and Akshaar to a lesser degree. They are able to pick an entirely separate T-2011 from their test site. They don't have... I should have been gillin' this team. They don't have a choice. I saw it in this team. Cool deep's not getting the game. It's unbelievable what they can do. And it's just a credit to the system that they built.

And the way they've been able to execute under pressure, it defies all logic. And as I said at the top, it's so scary to think how much better they can get. Because they haven't been complete. They've also filled a pretty pool in this tournament. They dropped a couple more catches last night. If they'd filled it pool, then what would have happened? It's frightening. Let's just give a few flowers to Sandry Samson here. I mean, we've been massive fans of Sandry for years on this show. And I feel like it is quite satisfying to see him given a little bit of a run in the side and take it with both hands when it matters most. Again, overnight, it's 89 or 46. I think he, I guess apart from Hardicky, yeah, I mean, of the guys who made runs, he struck the slowest. And that was at 193. He, like, in the space of three games, he feels like a safe pair of hands already. In the Indian side. And I think he always has been.

But, yeah, I mean, a shout out to Sandry Samson. It's his spot now. Yeah, and he should be not a big spot. He's just a free consecutive of the honies, but yeah. Yeah, in knockout games. Does it get any better than that? Like, it's clutch. India's clutch player. It's he deserves all the flowers in the world for that India should quite rightly. Lord him for his performances in winning his World Cup. Player of the tournament now, even though there was periods where he wasn't playing a part in this, in this tournament. Incredible. Incredible performance. Just the calmness, which is, I mean, he didn't, he didn't even fly out of the blocks, but he picked his moments. Matt Henry Bond, a really good first, over and he still found a length ball muscle that I've met on with these. Incredible batting. He's been doing it against spin and pace. Yeah, a fabulous performance. Abhishek makes some runs, finally. I mean, it's just 52 of 21 deliveries. Striking at 247.

I guess he's, he saved his best to last. I mean, it was a low base that he was coming from. I guess, but, um, you know, it just, I mean, everything came together for India last night. Everyone who needed to deliver, deliver, and they, and they, I feel like it's a, you know, it's really tempting because we're all, well, you're not, because you're a healthy man. But like, we're all so terminally online and unhealthily online that like, if your team doesn't win, you are tempted to, um, call upon, um, elements, or like, to try and like, um, discredit or invalidate in some way the win from the opposition. You know, whether you're going to call it, they'll call that structural things or other like petty stuff. Like today's just, if you're Indian, it's a, it's a beautiful day. Your team's won the World Cup. And you've been able to watch it. Um, like it's a party, like at no stage was India under any kind of threat. Like that must feel amazing. It must feel amazing to watch an entire World Cup win and be like,

we're going to win, you know, the whole time. And that's because the players stood up. There was no, um, there was, there were no nerves. They didn't seem to be, you know, we've seen it within the teams in the past. It all just gets a bit much for the players, which is probably, it's hard to understand, but you can see how it happens. Um, but this was just like, this was processional, really. I want to give some credit to Ishan Kishan again. Another maligned player in that top seven. Here's a ability to come in in both the semi and the final and just keep going. But there was no, there was no, um, I don't know if selfishness is the right word, but there was no sort of period where I want to get myself in and, and, you know, to use an Australian phrase, get a lick of the ice cream here and get it, get a score on the board for me, you know, like a, a number next to my name. There was none of that. Like he just kept going. He kept going and kept the momentum moving in both the semi and the final. And that takes bravery. And I think that is following the ethos that Gautam Gambier has pushed upon this team. And that's a reason why he's been a key contributor.

Number three, uh, yeah, good to see Abishek, um, fine. We know how good he is. I think again, it probably highlights. He got three or five against spin in this game. So why, why did New Zealand not play McConkey A and B did sent and not bow himself in the power play? That doesn't make any sense because he was just smashing seam up. Like the guys just got their links wrong. And they tried to hide the ball wide to him. He just opened that chest up and flayed him over mid-awful. It was incredible striking. Um, but, you know, that is Abishek's strength. Why would you bowl to his strength in a final like that on a surface like that? That doesn't make much sense. But once those guys got going, it just felt like the tide was never going to get turned. Did you catch the little moment between Arstep and Darryl Mitchell? Where, um, like, um, you know, Darryl Mitchell Heads up all back to Arstep who pings it at, uh, at Darryl Mitchell, who's like well out of the way. The Stampson. I feel like it was the most fight we saw from the Kiwis. I really, um, having a crack. Do you think like, uh, do you think that New Zealand,

like, do we have to talk about New Zealand's performances in, in finals? I mean, that we, we lured them for their ability to overachieve, to make a lot from a little, um, but in finals, they have, um, irrespective of, you know, running into big teams, um, that play well on the day. There is a pattern with New Zealand of what you will describe as, like, underperformance on the day of being blown away. I mean, it doesn't really matter. Well, like, it doesn't, it doesn't mean anything really. But like, you know, would South Africa be entitled to be like, you want to use a C word with us? And I'm not talking about choking, by the way. Um, um, coach. Oh, is there anything in it? I think that's fair. So 29, though, genuinely stiff. 2019, though, genuinely stiff, that, that happened, um, 2021, obviously, outstanding in the WTC final. They probably didn't quite get it right against Australia. They went in as favorites.

Um, and just didn't get enough with the bad and obviously, batting first and, and bowling second with the due in, in the UAE, didn't help them think about 2022. They had Pakistan in a semifinal out here, playing really well, uh, Finale and Mrs. out. And they only post 150 and, and make a mess of that game. Um, and then, you know, they, they didn't get to the semis in 24. I had a tough tournament, but, you know, they've now lost. I mean, it is as, as you say, incredible that they've made it. And there's all the talk about the fact that, you know, they've got a population small than Melbourne. Um, and they're, they're making World Cup finals and they're producing great players, but loser champions trophy final and then this one in, in this fashion. I think they'd be disappointed with the way that they played here. It wasn't, I didn't really put far a shot. And, and to get it so tactically wrong, I think he's probably the biggest questioner. As I said earlier, I think you can, you, you can miss execute in a final that does bring into question whether you've got the temperament and the medal to be able to handle that moment.

But, um, that can happen, but to actually get your tactics horribly wrong in a game where you do need to get them right against the team that's got so much depth and ability in those conditions. That he's really odd and there should be some questions asked of New Zealand's hierarchy as to why they went that way in the aftermath. But, I mean, they've, they still got there. As I said, Travis head was playing Schildgerigan on the weekend. They're still in the tournament right to the very end. So you got to give him credit for that and, and the performance against South Africa was outstanding, but it, it did lose three games in this World Cup, um, which is, you know, Australia has been knocked out of the last two, two losses, you know. So that fact, it's a high variance to one of them that they played the, they played their cards right all the way through. But got it wrong on that day. So for the rest of the world who are waking up to India, winning the World Cup at home in front of however many people you think are at Empty Bud Stadium, I believe it's about 86,400 personally.

They see images of Jay Shah, Rohit Sharma, MS Doni, safety, safety. The cup is lifted. It's a dominant colossal performance. Everybody does well. Should we all just, um, cower in the fetal position in the corner of our rooms naked? I apologise. Forever more. No, no, we should be there. The rest of the world should be trying to get better. I think that's what India would want. Challenge them. There, there, there, no one's in, no one's unbeatable. I mean, India are putting together a great team and a great era of cricket. But, um, like any team in any era, as we know as Australians, it can be a house of cards like it. Yeah, I think that, I think it's a great thing that the bar has been raised. And I think, I think the most impressive thing, as I said earlier, is that it's the most democratic format. And they're the ones standing head and shoulders above the rest.

And other teams, including Australia, particularly Australia, haven't been able to go with that. And they need to find ways to get better and improve and, and take the game to the next level. I think that's a great thing. And I, I think, uh, I think more scarcity in these tournaments would be a better thing. Having them every two years, probably, I don't know. I don't know whether that, it'd be interesting to hear from India fans, whether they feel like, um, I mean, they are over to capitalise. I guess on a great generation to win two in a row. But, um, does it, does it take the gloss off a little bit that there's not that time in between to really celebrate a group and then build again? I'm not sure. What do you think about that? I think that it allows, um, World Cricket to get paid due to India Pakistan games. If they want to play, no, no, um, you've forgotten, you've forgotten the financial element of it. Um, I, I would love to see more scarcity in the tournament. Um, but yeah, so you're not, um, you're not of the, of the sect of people who will say,

well, India should win because of their population or anything like that. No, I mean, you know, that they're going to be hard to beat because of the systems they put in place. Their population is in advantage, but it's not. It's, it hasn't helped them in previous generations. They've, they've got the systems right. The IPL is a, is a brilliant, brilliant tournament that is producing these players and, and the rest of the world needs to find ways to try and compete with that. And, you know, success leaves clues. So they should be looking at elements of that. Not necessarily trying to copy all of the, all of the things that the IPL is, but I think there's elements of the way that tournament is played in the style of cricket and the quality of cricket, but certainly other, other teams and other nations are that they're basically should be trying to look at, um, implementing. Wonderful piece of analysis from Alex Malcolm. Too wonderful, if I'm honest, um, big thank you to Alex for stepping in, uh, for the World Cup final in he goes as absence. Thank you very much.

And for like, um, lowering yourself, uh, to the, to this show, you can follow Alex, you can follow Alex Crickinfo, nosy stuff, deluxe, again, a little awkwardly, if I'm honest. But, um, uh, and thanks to you for watching this show, for following the World Cup with us with TGC. Throughout the entire tournament, um, it is, we, you know, India have won and they will win and they, I don't know how else to say it. But, um, it has, it's been a pleasure to bring you this, um, this, this tournament, um, thanks to Budweiser for backing us. Thanks to Chuck, thanks to Trent, thanks to Higo's, um, thanks to Alex, thanks to everyone for tuning in. Um, it's, it's been awesome. We'll be back with the IPL in about two minutes, um, in about two and a half weeks time. So looking forward to that, uh, in many respects. And, um, we'll catch you then. Cheers.

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