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What happens when ICE shows up in the middle of the job and takes the crew?
This week on Billified, Bill and Kevin sit down with Norm from Freedom Roofing and Windows, who recently experienced exactly that—and suddenly immigration stops being a cable-news argument and becomes a very real business problem.
Workers gone. Job unfinished. Customers waiting. Labor disappearing. And somebody still has to put the damn roof on.
The guys dig into the part of the immigration debate that gets lost between political talking points: What happens to the economy when the people doing some of America's hardest jobs disappear?
Why aren't more American workers lining up to roof houses, pick crops and do other backbreaking labor? What responsibility does a contractor have when a subcontracted crew provides paperwork that appears legitimate? What happens when workers are detained first and their status gets sorted out later? And if the available workforce keeps shrinking, who ultimately eats the increased cost?
Spoiler: probably you.
Norm also shares the story of an incredibly reliable worker who had documentation, disappeared into detention for a month, and was eventually released with little explanation—leaving everyone wondering what the hell happened.
This isn't "ICE bad" or "immigration good." It's a conversation about the messy place where immigration enforcement, small business, labor shortages, housing costs and reality all collide.
Because America wants secure borders.
America also wants affordable roofs, cheap food and construction projects finished on time.
Turns out those conversations may be standing on the same ladder.
Plus: construction workers with absolutely no bedside manner, why roofing still sucks, social media destroying everyone's sanity, hockey already consuming another year of Kevin's life, and the birth of a potentially terrible new game:
ICE or Nice.
Welcome aboard the Pirate Ship.
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This week on Billified, Bill and Kevin sit down with Norm from Freedom Roofing and Windows, who recently experienced exactly that—and suddenly immigration stops being a cable-news argument and becomes a very real business problem.
Workers gone. Job unfinished. Customers waiting. Labor disappearing. And somebody still has to put the damn roof on.
The guys dig into the part of the immigration debate that gets lost between political talking points: What happens to the economy when the people doing some of America's hardest jobs disappear?
Why aren't more American workers lining up to roof houses, pick crops and do other backbreaking labor? What responsibility does a contractor have when a subcontracted crew provides paperwork that appears legitimate? What happens when workers are detained first and their status gets sorted out later? And if the available workforce keeps shrinking, who ultimately eats the increased cost?
Spoiler: probably you.
Norm also shares the story of an incredibly reliable worker who had documentation, disappeared into detention for a month, and was eventually released with little explanation—leaving everyone wondering what the hell happened.
This isn't "ICE bad" or "immigration good." It's a conversation about the messy place where immigration enforcement, small business, labor shortages, housing costs and reality all collide.
Because America wants secure borders.
America also wants affordable roofs, cheap food and construction projects finished on time.
Turns out those conversations may be standing on the same ladder.
Plus: construction workers with absolutely no bedside manner, why roofing still sucks, social media destroying everyone's sanity, hockey already consuming another year of Kevin's life, and the birth of a potentially terrible new game:
ICE or Nice.
Welcome aboard the Pirate Ship.
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/billified-the-bill-moran-podcast--5738193/support.
Watch the full episode on YouTube by searching Billified and support the pirate ship by clicking here https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/billified-the-bill-moran-podcast--5738193/support Thank you for making us a part of your day! Billified: The Bill Moran Podcast
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