I Watched Bigfoot for 8 Minutes | Mt. Hood

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2:02Gary is a field researcher from the Northern Coast of Oregon, and also some of the Cascades as well. You may remember his, he's got a Bigfoot themed YouTube channel that had some really interesting stuff on it, and it's called Bigfoot Research Project, but Gary has had some incredible things happen over the years. We were just talking about it, and really excited to see where this conversation will go today. So welcome to the show, Gary. How are you doing, sir? Doing pretty well. Pretty well. Thank you. Awesome. Oh my goodness. I'm going to have the show, the link to your show channel in the description, and there's some fascinating, fascinating stuff in there. I want to make sure all my listeners check it out and make sure they're subscribed to it. But Gary, yeah, we've got some interesting conversations to have. So let's get right into it. You know, you were saying it's probably best to start chronologically. So, you know, how did this all start out for you, man?

3:03I have no, so if I look down, I'm not trying to be rude or anything. I'm just, there's just a lot to cover here. So basically, when I was a child, I'm 63 years old. When as a child, the Patterson Ghiblin film came out. It was on local TV. And my mom, who's a part Native American, told me that, you know, she's been around them and had activity when she was growing up. She grew up in a logging camp in northern California. On her way to school, she'd see these oil drums that were full of oil thrown across a river. And just crumpled, you know, I mean, some forklifts could barely lift those. And here's, you know, five or 10 of them across a creek. She said there'd be tracks all over and her father told her never go into the woods alone, never go out at night, ever alone and, you know, to be safe because the force giants will get you.

4:11And so, so she was always told, you know, beware of the force giants. They're not, they're, they're not friendly. So I think, I think that's what, you know, parents tell kids just to keep them safe, but not a bad idea with all the bears and cougars and stuff running around out there. So anyways, it progressed from there to my first sighting was in, I want to say, the mid 80s, as riding a bicome from a buddy's, a mine's house on the road between Forrest Grove and Gaston. And there's a big field there. And back in the day, there were virtually no houses, but my friend had a farm out there. So I was riding my bicome about one o'clock in the morning in July and on a moonlit night. And I noticed some movement out of the side of my eye in this field. I'm riding next to and there's a creature, the size of a horse running across the field. But horse legs narrow down towards their feet. And this thing didn't narrow down at all.

5:13It looked like tree trunks. It was running on. And the moon was pretty bright that night. And the road was like no cars whatsoever. It's kind of a back road. And the more I looked at it, the more I could kind of make out a little bit better. It was a, you know, a black figure. But I could, I could see the silhouette really pretty well. And I could see it didn't have any ears. I could see it was looking right at me while it ran. And it was effortless. It was like galloping effortlessly at, you know, 20 miles an hour or so. I was on a 10 speed pedaling. Once I saw it, I, I booked, man. I was, I was moving. And it's, it paralleled me for about about three quarters of a mile. And then at the end of the field, there's a trees across. And it comes right up to the highway and kind of a ditch and then the highway. And as I approached the end of the field, I was afraid that it was going to come right at me because it had nowhere to

6:14go, but into these trees or towards me. And it had been paralleling me the whole time and I kept looking over and it's, it's looking at me. And it's, I'd say it's about a, on a 200 feet away, maybe, maybe 250. And just moving right along me, effortlessly. And the more I looked at, I noticed it didn't, didn't have ears like a bear, didn't have ears like a horse, didn't have a snout like a horse. But it was about, about the size of a thousand pound horse, maybe a little bit, maybe a little bigger. It was, it was just huge. And I, I didn't know what I was looking at. I just knew I had to get out of there and kept booking. I got to the end, end of that. Trees and I waited for it to cross over to the road. And it went straight into the trees. And the trees are only like on a 100 feet thick right there. And then you pop out into another field on the other side. And, and it didn't pop out the other side. Thank God. And, and then not far

7:16about another half mile up the road is the turn off to, to the town I was going to. So that, that was my first encounter. And that one, that one kind of terrified me. But it kind of, I don't know, I kind of forgot about it over time kind of in a way. I was interested in it, because my mom talked about Bigfoot as a kid. And I saw that thing and didn't know exactly what it was. But saw on a funny Bigfoot show that they run on all, on all fours. And I was like that. And they showed a picture like a, you know, cartoon and one or whatever they, you know, however they make those. And it looked pretty much just like what I saw. And I was like that, that's it. That's that's what I saw. And at that point, I started to be kind of driven to, to want to learn more about about what, what I saw, what there was. And, and, you know, how to investigate these things, how to, how to get to it. I grew up in a family of people that hunt and fish. My uncles

8:19are guide. My brothers are guides. They bow hunt bear. I grew up trapping and, and, you know, hunting and stuff. So I'm really pretty adept in the woods. And, and so when I saw that thing, I knew it wasn't a bear. I knew it wasn't a horse. I, you know, I was trying to, I was trying to put it in a box and I just couldn't do it. But funny Bigfoot put it in a box for me. So then is, okay, let's look at this box. In 2015, I bought a, I bought a motorcycle. I hadn't ridden in years about a street bike, bought a Harley and my girlfriend's like, yeah, yeah, that's great. Nice. This will be really fun. You got a bike. That's good for you. And I thought she would tell me, oh, I don't want you on a dangerous bike. So next day, she goes about a horse. Yeah. So I didn't even know she was shopping for a horse. I guess she didn't know I shopped for a bike, but she bought an endurance horse. She grew up around horses, had, had, had participated in dressage and a bunch of other things, trained horses. She's own like 10 or 15 of them.

9:22And anyway, so she bought an endurance horse. She wanted to try out this new hobby. In endurance racing, you train your horse to run 25, 50, 75 and 100 mile races. The races that you compete in are up in the mountains. They're not like in a city or on a track. There is no track. It's trails. It's mountain trails. A lot of time, deer trails, elk trails, whatever the host who's running the event, maps out. They put little ribbons on the right side of the trail and you run along to the colored ribbon for the trail you're supposed to be on and you go out and come back. And they have vats. It's it's it's it's a pretty big deal. There's you know thousands of people next to white compete in 2019. My girlfriend got first place in her class out of 400 and some riders. So she did really well in our horse. It was just a beast. I used to call him beast mode because that guy, he was fearless. He'd see bears, cougars, herds of elk right in the path

10:25and just go right at him. And and those things just scatter. He was he was just he was fearless. And another thing about the horses before I move on. One thing people don't really know about horses is their hearing is just amazing. Better than a dog. So they can hear a tree branch break like two or three miles off. I mean, they're you know, they can hear footsteps footsteps of another horse two to three miles off. I mean, they're just amazing hearing just amazing. And their eyesight is is like three times better than ours. They can see in the dark pretty well. Almost like a black and white TV would be to us is is what what they see at night. So being on a horse up in the woods if there's a predator, they'll look right at it. And so as you move by, it'll be staring at the predator until it's not there anymore or it passes it. So, you know, one of the ultimate predator finding machines, you know, that that we're just running up trails trying to get them fit to begin

11:27with. So anyways, I say all that because I've had since we've gotten the horse, I've had gosh, eight more sightings. And we think it's the horse that brings it in. And a lot of people agree, you know, Patterson, Gilman, we're on horses. Gosh, what's his name? They got this year sounds cute. They're on horses. Run more. So run more head. Yeah. And sorry, Ron didn't. Anyways, but but all these people are on horses. They're having all this activity. And I'm kind of getting why. There's something about, you know, the pounding that the horse makes going up the trail or something, they're they just they don't seem to be afraid of it. And I don't know if they just equate, you know, people on horseback to be harmless. I'm not sure I'm not sure how that equates to them, but they're extremely curious about the horses. They come right into camp to see them.

12:31In 2015, we got the horse in 2016 or 17. We went to a horse camp. It's called Rears Horse Camp. It's just outside of Timber, Oregon. It's really close. It's what it was was when the tommock burn happened right after the feds and send in replant crews. And so they they set up this big campground. I mean, there's a hundred plus people living there that would go out each day and plant trees to reforest the tommock forest. And this is the main campground. They spearheaded out and it's like on a five miles out of Timber, it's my guess. But it is on a dead end road. There might be some logging roads that come off of it, but they kind of dead end out there. There's nothing that really loops around. So anyways, out off of this creek next to the tommock to banks railway, there's a campground called Rears Horse Camp. And so we go out to all different

13:36horse camps and all different horse trails to train the horse. We try to get it some place new all the time so that it doesn't get fixed in a certain state of mind. It needs to be able to jump stumps, just boogie right along at about 12 miles an hour everywhere it goes. So anyways, we brought the horse up to train there and we got there on a Friday. And by then I was pretty into you know, finding big foot, you know, cliff and and everybody with you know, they're all heroes to me. I was like, wow, these guys are so cool, you know, with what they're doing. You know, wouldn't that be great to, you know, to to see another one. And wow, this would be, yeah, you think that until it until it happens. But anyway, and maybe you do after I don't know. But so anyways, we go into this campground and it's down down in some some ridges and and if you follow the ridge of the campgrounds on further down, there's a creek in this bottom and the railroad

14:36tracks are right above it. The road's up here and heads out to timber. Above the road is this really tall ridge. I mean, it's it's a couple thousand feet tall, heavily old forest. I mean, trees are you know, four or five feet around. They're they're big. Tone of old growth, ton of ferns. I mean, it's just green lush, beautiful, beautiful place. The trail there, it's about a I want to say it's about a six mile loop and the horse just loves it. There's a couple creek crossings and it's it's just really cool. So we went there to go train the horse. We get there on Friday and we get the horse. They have big wooden corrals to keep horses in. We put the horse in the corral and we start making dinner while the end of the camp next to us. Another rider comes in, another pickup truck with a camper and a horse trailer rolls in and after a while we we walk over and because my my girls riding by herself on our horse and she would like to ride with someone else.

15:38So we go in our dues ourselves. We invite them over for dinner or a glass of wine after dinner or whatever. So so they they take us up on our invitation and they brought some some like cake or something over a carrot cake I think. So anyways, we're sitting at the table and it's twilight and it's starting to get a little bit dark and I'm I'm just all into you know, finding out as much information as I can from anybody I can and I ask them, hey, have you ever seen anything strange while you're riding and and they're gone now never? No, nope, nope, I go oh so you've you've ever watched funny bigfoot you haven't heard any noises anything like off of that show or anything. No, nope, never. I go with it. You wouldn't mind if I did a few tree nox would you and they're gone. Yeah, shoot. They're laughing. Go ahead. That sounds fun. Great. So I have a baseball bat Louiseville slugger with me and I walk over to a maple because you want to you want to hit a hard surface, a soft surface, it's just not going to carry. So I walk over to this maple and I just crack it. I broke my bat right in half and just a big loud pop and they're just

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18:48by the show. Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you. And that ridge is probably at least 1500 feet above us, probably closer to 2000 feet, but near the top. And we're like, is there a road up there? Yeah, what's going on here? So, so we're kind of laughing about a little bit. And I look around and I find somebody been cutting firewood and they delim this tree. And I found a, you know, nice big thick branch about four feet long that I could swing and hit hit it again. So I said, well, I'm going to do a triple knock. So I do a triple knock and then a triple knock off the hill answers back. Anyways, I'll I'll speed through this. That kept happening. We did it like five times. And and then all of a sudden a tree got pushed over and it's like halfway down it was coming down the hill towards us. A tree got pushed over about halfway down the hill. And I mean, it was it sounded old growth when it hit. I mean, it was it was a bank when it hit. And you could hear popping and stuff splitting when it when it started to get shoved over. And I mean, it it was

19:52we all just went to silence. We're going, okay, well, and they're gone, you know what? It's getting late. We got to go feed our horse and we're going to go to bed and we'll we'll ride with you in the morning. Great. Look forward to it. That's going to be fun. And my girl goes, well, I'm going to go feed our horse. And and you know, she asked me, need any help? You want me to go with you? She's like, no, you know, I'm all good. So, so she goes back. I mean, she's fearless, I have the most fearless girlfriend in the world. Anyway, she walks back there and is getting getting water and stuff for the horse. I told Wal-Mick dessert and I went in the camper and I took the carrot cake. We had ice cream and it made up a couple plates. And about 10 minutes later, she comes in and she goes, they're the whooping. It's it's coming down. It's coming close. It's it sounds like it's up on the road now. So it's a hundred feet away. Not, you know, not a 1500 feet up this hill anymore. It had come down the hill. And she goes, I'm I'm just going to stay inside, you know, and we'll end and you know, we'll just call it a night. And I was like, great,

20:56let's eat and, you know, and I have the windows open because it's, you know, summer. But I'm listening and I can hear owls hooting. You know, the the the barrows owls, you know, often a distance, but they don't sound right. They're number one, they're too loud and then they're dragging out the like they're just dragging it out. You're normally like, you know, way faster. So not that fast, but you know what I mean. So anyways, I'm this is strange. This is strange, strange times. But, you know, hey, you know, maybe I'll get it, get some audio with my phone, you know, I didn't have any recording devices or anything at the time. So anyways, we go to sleep. I wake up about two in the morning and to the barrows owls and now there's two of them and they're out in front of our truck. It sounds like a couple hundred feet away coming through the campground and you can you can tell ones on one side of the campground ones on the other and they're they're coming towards

22:00our truck and they pass down both sides of our truck, you know, making the that drawn out, go go go go. You know, and I didn't hear any footsteps or anything, but owls normally fly up higher than our truck. They're not at like ear level. So anyways, they went by back to where a horse was and I was like, oh crap, I better, you know, so I'm peeking the window open and I'm shining a flashlight on the horse just to make sure that, you know, he's going to be okay, but beast mode, he's like, yeah, whatever, you know, he's stomping around a little bit, but he's not, he's not just that distressed. When they get distressed, you know, they're distressed. They start kicking and jumping and I mean, they don't they won't have it, you know, they're just fed up and they're done with it. So that actually happened to my neighbor's horse a couple hours later. So so in the morning, I wake up and I look over and it's like first light and I make, I start a coffee, I pop up in our door and I see the neighbors are almost completely packed up and they're leaving.

23:05And I'm like, what what's going on? You were supposed to ride, you know, with my my girlfriend. And they're going, we're getting out of here. You called them in last night. And I was like, what? They're going, yeah, you know, big foot finder. You brought one in and we woke up at three o'clock in the morning and the thing was reaching over the top of the crowd trying to touch our horse. They said it was about eight feet tall, probably about four foot wide in the shoulders, solid black. They said that he stepped out with his 45 because he thought it was a mountain lion because his horse was just not having it kick and screaming and dancing around. And so he walked out with his 45 in a flashlight and the thing was reaching over the top trying to touch the horse and and then it looked up at him, turned and just walked off right through the trees and it kept the horse between it and him when it left like it almost like it knew what a gun was or knew you

24:06better, you know, I don't know. I just knew Linus keep keep the horse between Linus site. So so anyways, it stomped off. He said it stomped off and you could he could hear it go across the road and stomp up the hill and he said he they started packing. They're like screw this place, you know, yeah, come to find out. They do exist. So so anyways, I'm and he's he's really mad at me because I brought that thing in, you know, he's like, yeah. So anyways, they they laughed and and we we stayed and went route and rode that day. We were going home that night anyways. We just stayed the one nights. We we have a we own a farm. So we have to take care of stuff. So anyways, so fast forward to one year later, we were at Northrop Creek horse camp. Beautiful. Both of the rears and Northrop are like brand new. They're just beautiful. Really nice well made campgrounds. We're at we're at

25:10Northrop in about one o'clock in the morning. I wake up to a scream and it sounds like it sounds like a woman getting stabbed to death and it didn't really change octaves. It was just a but it lasted for about 45 seconds and I know it lasted for 45 seconds because it woke me up. I had time to pull on my sweats, grab my 45 and jump out the back door and and and with a flashlight. I thought that a cougar was probably attacking our horses and I was just going to I was going to decafinate it. So I pop out. I got the flashlight the 45 and there's there's nothing there but the screen came from right right just it sounded like about 50 feet away from the horses across this real narrow campground road that we parked on and it's the forces so thick there. I mean,

26:14if you throw a rock, it'd go like 10 feet in and hit a tree because there's so many and it's all old growth. It's all four or five foot round trunks. I mean, they're two 250 foot tall trees. I mean, they're fricking huge and I just couldn't see anything. Well, the horses were staring right over at that area. Here's a staring right at it and whatever a horse's ears are on look in that spot because you'll you will you'll you'll see what they're seeing. They're like parabolic dishes. They just hone in on anything. So they're staring at those trees for I just sat out there with them and and calmed them down. They were they're moving around quite a bit but they they weren't screaming or anything. You know, they weren't kicking and screaming. They were they were upset though you could tell. So they started over towards those trees for about 10 minutes and to the point where I just walked over the flashlight and the trees I just got a I was going to put it into this and nothing there nothing. After a while, the horses just went

27:17back to eating ignored just ignored that spot. So I knew whatever event that was it's over and you know, it's three o'clock in the morning. I'm dead tires. I just went back to bed. Next day, walked over to where the trees were. I mean, this spot walked around a little bit and no tracks, no sign, no nothing and whatever it was was gone. But the scream was so loud. I could I could almost feel it in my chest through the camper. It was it I mean, I don't know, sound like a freaking air raid siren loud. I mean, it was just loud loud loud loud loud loud loud. And I've heard Cougar scream and you know, they go for like five seconds. Or so I've never really heard one go pass that. This one was like big winded, you know, 35, 45 seconds scream. It was still it was still screaming until the point my door came completely open and the light shined towards those trees. So anyway, so that happened. So at that point, I'm still you think and you know, it'd be kind of

28:22cool to see one of these things again. You know, I saw the one run across a field. You know, it didn't attack me. I'm probably, you know, nothing so far has really come at us. So we'll probably be just fine. I just I just really had to drive to see one. So that all changed in 2019. So so I've had multiple sightings in the coast range in and mainly around Mt. Hood. We found a spot. I call it Scookam Ridge, but there's multiple trails all the way around Mt. Hood and they're on these ridges just, you know, first ridges around the mountain. And we we go to a place it's by low, low pass. There's like multiple campgrounds in there. And and we we had trained in there before. We like mountains because it really puts muscle on a horse. It really makes them strong. And in

29:22race season, the more muscle you can get on them, the better. You know, the more wind they can move through efficiently, the better. And and that's just it's almost like cheating running them up hills. It's, you know, compared to people that just train on flats. So we we took them up there the year before and just didn't wasn't really paying attention to anything. Didn't didn't really have any activity wasn't wasn't trying to, you know, I don't try to go have activity. It just kind of happens because we're out in the forest every other weekend. I'll simmer along all over the Northwest. So, you know, I've been up by Mount Rainier. I've been, you know, all over coast range all over, you know, to Primeville, Bend, you know, just everywhere, just all over the place. And we get invited to go to races all the time. We get invited to go stay at friends house that have ranches like we do. And and we do, you know, so we train all over the place. So, anyways, we go up to we go up to low, low pass and we're we're training on these, these ridges. We have corrals that are portable so we can set up our corrals anywhere.

30:26So, we're set up and it's it's I think it's like on a Friday. We I got to work early. We went up and still light out. We got set up fairly early. And so there's about five hours of daylight left. And in this one, this is going to take a bit to describe the sighting because we saw multiple big foot. So I hope your listeners, you know, buckle up. So basically, I carry a 45 everywhere I go in my camper in case somebody tries to break in and hurt my girlfriend or hurt the horses or take our stuff or whatever. And to protect us from mountain lions and that sort of thing. I don't carry it though when I'm riding my my my e-bike that I built and I I can show you pictures of the bike. I got I built a fat tire bike put a one horse motor on it and heavy capacity battery. So I train with the horses. I ride with them at 12 miles an hour and I can go uphill downhill.

31:29I do river crossings all kinds of stuff with it. So I ride with the horse. I'm like it's best friend. We're we're we're heard. And when when our our merit gets scared, she wants me out front. When our when Marcus our big male runs up a trail, he he doesn't get scared. He's he's just a beast. I've seen elk run from him. I've seen bears run from him mountain lions. He'd nothing scares this guy. But you know, he's he's eleven twelve hundred pounds of solid muscle and will river dance on anything that that makes a mad, you know, elk or what seven hundred eight hundred pounds. So so he's bigger than the most anything he'll come up against. So I think I think that takes the fear out of him. I don't know. He's kind of crazy anyways. He's amazing. But anyways, so we roll in. It's it's like I'd say five hours before dark or so. My girlfriend says, well,

32:31hey, let's do a quick ride. We're going to go up the trail and just do do this. It's like a seven miles up this hill, seven miles back. You know, it you know, five miles an hour up and you know, twelve back. We'll we'll be back in no time. And she's been up this trail before. Um, has terrible sense of direction. Like I don't know anybody that has worse sense of direction than she does. Um, which is which is bad when you in endurance race. Um, but they again have ribbons on the trail. So she's safe. But uh, so anyways, um, she says, let's just do a quick ride up the trail. So I carry a machete on my bike in case there's like black variator or something cross in the path. On one side, it has a saw on the other side. It's a machete. It's, you know, three feet long. And I usually carry a three 80 with hollow points for cougars. Lady got killed up there like two years prior. She got mulled to death by a cougar. Um, and people, I'm telling you, you're

33:35full. If you don't at least carry some kind of spray with you because those things pounds, especially women when you're alone, a bad idea. And I've heard of them bouncing on women riding horses. Um, for some reason, they leave men alone for the most part, but I, I'm, I'm not chance in it. I, I, I just carry. It's just safer. Um, you know, in my driveway, I have bears that live just down below our house. So, um, I, I, I see wildlife a lot. So, and there's cougars, uh, just mall, uh, five goats like a mile from my house, uh, our neighbor's house. Unfortunately, they lost five. We have guardian or livestock guardian dog. So the cougars leave us alone. But anyways, uh, so, so she said, yeah, let's do this quick spin up the trail. And I'm sorry I'm dragging this thing out. But, um, so we take off. It's about, it's about, I'd say four o'clock. And it's in July, uh, right around my birthday. I'm, I have a mid July birthday. And, um, so it stays light till, you know, visible light probably till about nine thirty or so, I guess. Drew McIntyre here from WWE. Wheeled in the Claymore can be a life of chaos. When I'm not

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35:39goes on. Awesome. So how does someone do in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident? Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. It's pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24, 7, 365. Wow, Dan Morgan. From Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show. Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you. You know what? I could really go for right now. Literally anything that comes in a McDonald's carton, wrapper or bag or a McDonald's cup. Yes, any of those items you do it. We've got your cravings covered. Now stop in for the flaky filet of fish, the crispy snack wrap or a large fries for just $2.99. Limited time only, price and participation may vary. Cannot be combined with any other offer. So anyways, we take off about four and I'm thinking, you know, we're going to be at the top of this ridge. She says seven miles, you know, five miles an hour. We should be up there like an hour

36:43half, right? Took three hours to get up there. The trail is like this and it just has switchback after switchback. I mean, I lost track of how many switchbacks there are. I'm 100 more. I don't know. And then you're crossing over different ridges. It's not one ridge that you go up. It's multiple ridges and you're switching back and finally you pop over this this ridge and there's a lake up there. And it's this just sapphire blue little lake. It's maybe all of, you know, six, seven hundred feet across. And we can see it from from the ledge that we're on and on the other side is Mount Hood right there. I mean, it's just right there. And just gorgeous. Sandy rivers down down in the valley, way down below us. I think it's about a five thousand foot climb, maybe six from the floor up to where we're at. The horse is just not a problem. He's such a beast. Me on the other hand, I've been on a bike dodging boulders and trying, you know,

37:48getting bounced around and, you know, my shocks are okay, but they're not awesome. And you know, four inch tires do pretty good, but it's not a cushy ride. So I'm kind of beat up. But we get up there and get the view of Mount Hood and take pictures and, you know, we have our phones, so we're taking pictures of stuff. And so anyways, there's a crossing there. And one head's to road a dendron. And the other one loops back supposedly down to where our campground is. That my girlfriend thinks that that's the trail she took before and she did. So if we go that way, it's faster than if we go back the way we came. Because now, now we're about, you know, three hours have passed. And so now it's like seven or eight, I don't know, something like that. Probably closer to eight. Anyways, I'm telling her, well, you know, I want to get off this mountain before dark because I've never been here before. I'd like to get out of here and back at camping, you know, eating those steaks we brought. So anyways, she goes, well, let's go up. We got to go about another

38:52thousand feet up this ridge of this trail. And then it drops off and goes down the back side. And then it's just switchbacks all the way back down kind of like what we came up. But it's a lot more of them. And there's it's steeper. And the narrow and the trail is way more narrow up the front side. The trail started out about eight or 10 feet wide. And it narrowed down to about four feet on the back side. It's about a foot wide. And if you step off, you're, you're going to go probably if the horse fell had probably fall about four or five hundred feet before it stopped and it hit a lot of trees to stop to say, you know, people you could grab onto stuff but you're going to go at least a hundred feet. So anyways, so we head up, we head up to the top of this peak. And and this part's kind of critical to the rest of the story. But we're going up and and she has this trail and it looks like a washed out creek bed and it's boulders that are like, I don't know, three and four foot tall. So I can't ride my bike across. I got to lift my bike up. So it's wearing me out, man, I'm going a thousand feet over boulders sucked and and as I'm dragging it,

39:55I keep hitting my brakes and my pedals and stuff against the rocks. So I smashed my brakes. So they by the time I hit the top of this peak, I didn't I had no brakes. And I got to go downhill seven miles with no brakes in bigfoot country. So so anyways, we get up to the top of the hill and and all the way up that last thousand feet. I was not a gentleman at all in my speech. I I've swore. I I'm surprised that dark clouds didn't come in and lightning hit me because I was I was a cousin. Oh, man, because I kept falling over trying to lift the bike and I get all caught up in my legs. I swear to shorts. They're all caught up and I'm bleeding out and smashed and bruised and and not happy. I was not a happy camper and I's letting the world know. But she was riding far enough ahead of me. I didn't think she heard me. So so I thought, well, I can you know, I heard somewhere that yelling helps relieve pain. So I was I was yelling. So I get to the top of the peak and she's like, yeah, I heard you come and did you? I have no idea why. And

41:03oh, I before we got to the top of the peak one last thing, it narrowed down so narrow as like six inches wide in one spot. And my freaking bike hit a rock and the whole bike went off the cliff and and I had to choose whether to push the bike away and I just built this thing. I spent like two grand on it to just push the bike away and watch it go off a cliff or hang on to it and try and grab some brush. So I tried to grab some brush next to me and the bike went off anyways. And so it kind of drugged me down with it. And I went off the trail, started sliding down the hillside, but I grabbed some brush on the way down and I went down about 10 feet before I finally was able to stop holding onto roots of something. I got the bike in one hand and that and the other and I bike out. I wasn't going to lose that bike and I drug it. You know, you grab foot hold with my feet and push and drug and I got it back up on the trail and I did not stop cursing for a while. And but my girlfriend has a picture of me with the bike upside down on the trail and the horse

42:06is looking at me like it looks like they're both laughing at me and she's got a camera out. I got a picture of that and it's it's on one of my videos on a Bigfoot Research project. So so anyways that finished off my brakes right there. They're they're toast at that point. So I get to the top of the peak and we start going down. We get to the peak and amazing view and there's no trees up there. It's Alpine. So like the last probably 200 feet of cliff that went up is just all Alpine. So we drop over the front and you can see the sandy down below and you can see probably the tree area where campground is. We're like sweet. There's downhill. There's camp. We're going to be everything's great. So we drop off the peak and go down about on a one or two hundred feet and it's kind of windy at that point is a sunny day, slightly cloudy but a little bit windy up there. So we're like well let's let's drop down a couple hundred feet and eat lunch real quick. So we we drop off the hill and we brought sandwiches

43:08so we're like eating a candy bar or sandwich or something and the horse also cocks its head and is looking downhill behind us and it's not unusual for a horse to look around but it was fixated and I mean like I've never seen it lock on to something and be that fixated prior to that and it wouldn't stop staring. It was like something was coming up behind us up up this ridge but more in the trees and I told her it's got to be a bear or a cougar or something's in there. It's probably a bear because it's making enough noise that you know because cougars are soft-footed but it's probably a bear and the horse is here and it roll rocks as it's coming up and it's got to be right in those trees just you know two three hundred feet below us up behind us and I got a picture of the horse staring at it and I took pictures of with with my phone camera. I took pictures of what it was staring at just in case I could blow it up and see a bear in there later you know I knew something was up because it stared it while we were eating our sandwiches for

44:11about ten minutes and it didn't take its eyes off it. So that was the beginning of it and beginning of the encounter so she says well do to your foul language I'm going to go ahead and roll ahead of you and I'll stay about one to two thousand feet in front of you so you know you don't run my horse over with your no brake situation and I told her well I'm gonna I'm gonna try and take the bike and and I'll be because it's it's so steep up hill off the trail and such a drop off it what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna take the front tire and scrub it into the hill so I'm taking speed off by rubbing my tire against the bank and I mean brush and rocks it shoulder flight all over me but at least it slows the bike down because otherwise I'd be doing you know 200 miles an hour and like a couple of her feet so so she takes off and gets out ahead of me I start to come down the hill and I didn't get two minutes down the hill you know maybe maybe a thousand feet

45:14and all of a sudden I hear a family talking and it was crystal clear it was a mother a father and it said like two kids and the kids sounded excited but I couldn't understand the language it sounded like the parents like they're going to fricking Disney land I mean the the kids were and another one you know just I could hear two different pitches of voices talking so I knew there were two young ones and then the parents you know the the father had a really deep voice mother was yeah but they were all talking and and they were behind me on the hillside where the horse was looking so they might have still been coming up out of that valley I mean you know several thousand feet up the hill while at the time the horse was listening to them but they came around the ridge below me and I'm going I'm going I'm going down the ridge camps way down below seven

46:18miles down below I'm going off this ridge and about to hit all these switchbacks and my girlfriend's out in front of me and they're circling on the hillside below me through this old growth and they're close man I mean they're like I could hear the voices clearly and they weren't screaming you know it wasn't nothing like Ron Moorhead's thing not not even not not even close I would say Moorhead to me after hearing these Moorheads they were screaming up a valley at him like they're pissed off these weren't pissed they were happy they were chilling I mean it sounded like a family like I said talking about we're going to Disney Land you know and I guess you know Disney Land is me and my girlfriend so anyways so so I hear them moving along the hillside and so I speed up because they're catching me and they're catching me no fricking problem and I'm thinking well there must be a trail you know 100 feet below me but the trees are so fricking thick I you know old growth

47:21I can't see anything so I speed up to where I see this rock slide so the rock slide is like a thousand feet it's probably 300 feet wide and I'm thinking at a trail that's a hundred feet down I'm going to see it at the rock slide I mean there's no way I can't see it and I get I get there and they had already crossed it but I looked down and there ain't no fricking trail there's there's nothing there and that's that's when I knew okay this is this is not people plus at the speed they were moving I couldn't move my bike that fast without brakes and I was scrubbing off speed I was probably doing 10 miles an hour I was pretty much hauling ass like wrecking pretty much every time I scrub up speed off and they still went right around me like I's chained to a tree and they kept going down the hill towards my girlfriend who's who's down you know down slightly to my right they were on my left and they were on an intercept course I can hear them coming around the hill they were still talking they went around me and and that's that's when the fear kind of hit me because I realized

48:30that that's not people talking that's not people not nobody can move that fast not possible and I started getting a little bit scared and I just you know I just told myself well you know you got a machete you got a bike you could throw Adam you know is what it is but I better catch my girl because I don't want I don't want her in danger so I tried to get down that hill as fast as I could and like I said there's about a hundred switchbacks so I get at that point I was probably 10% down the seven miles so the the path is really narrow I mean in some spots it's like it's like eight inches wide and then it's just drop and the hillside up my elbows hitting the hill on the upside and it's old growth really deep dense forest and the trails just the trails like at a 45 I mean it's steep as hell and it's loose gravel so my tires are kind of sliding around a little bit

49:32and I'm just a crap I better go off this cliff I'm screwed so I get I said about I was about 10% down the hill at the point where the rock slide was so I go a few more minutes down the trail and then I start hitting these switchbacks and they put switchbacks in because it's too steep just to go straight down the hill so you got switchback after switchback and it's not an old cat road it's it's definitely like an elk trail that got improved for horses and in some spots it's it's you know three feet wide but for the most it was about a foot wide and and they'll have trees that fell over the path they cut out about about a foot wide of it or two feet wide of it so the horse could pass through you know so it doesn't have to step over it and then sometimes they leave them for a while and and have the horse step over them those ones I have to lift the bike over but anyways I'm going down the hill and about five minutes after I left the the

50:34slide that I've gone through maybe six switchbacks and all of a sudden I hear a horse behind me you know stop and stop stop stop stop and I'm thinking crap there's a rider on this narrow trail and I have to I have to move out of its way because horses have the right way so I drag my bike up on the bank and the stomping stops and it's just around the turn that I just came around and I'm like okay you screw with me okay I'm I'm gonna go so I put my bike back on the trail I start going down again go around one or two corners and stop stop stop stop and I'm thinking it's it's a horse I mean it's it's like a thousand pounds if I sit out Tyler Reddick here from 2311 racing victory lane yeah it's even better with chamba by my side race to chamba casino dot com let's chamba no purchase necessary vtw group void work prohibited by law ct and c's 21 plus sponsored by chamba casino

51:36I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod say hi Dan hey how's it going today it's going good man tell us who you are and what you do I'm Dan Morgan I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan Morgan which is America's largest injury law firm that's pretty awesome um I think I saw billboard of yours recently it said a 20 billion one 20 billion insane number yeah 20 billion recovered it's actually I think somewhere north probably closer to 22 23 after this year and each year we get bigger and better and our army grows so the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on awesome so how does someone get in contact with Morgan Morgan what what would I do if I got into an accident probably the easiest way is dialing pound law that's pound five two nine from your cell phone we are always open our call centers always waiting to take your call 24 seven 365 wow Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan America's largest injury law firm thanks for coming by the show thanks for having me visit for the people dot com for an office near you and I'm around horses all the time I know they sound like sounded like a horse coming up

52:39and drag my bike up you know I'm I've been kicked out and bit out and stuff we're not have my bike out of the way before so it ain't happening again so so I do that a couple times it happens a couple times up up on the top like 50% of the hill so I get I get to about the halfway point and the stomping stops and I see my girlfriend and I ask have have have you been hearing anything in the trees at all anything and she says I've heard some some whoops both up above me and down below me and she says they're close I mean they're they're within a hundred feet of me behind logs or behind trees or something but they're really close and I said well let's stay closer together I like to keep you an eyesight and she goes no you keep racking and I can hear you she goes I'm gonna stay a little further out I mean she's fearless so she's she's not afraid of

53:40these things but I said fine you know I mean what choice do I have she's on a horse that works and my bike has no brakes so I'm it is what it is so so she she takes off we're about we're at about the 50% down the hillmark or 75% down the hillmark she takes off and then I get not a a hundred feet from where we just talked and I up just right above me I hear whoop and just below me I hear whoop and then get further down and then I hear whoop and then whoop like different tones so it's either different you know different force people or or it's you know the same one doing different tones I didn't see anything though I just heard them and they were close and I'm I'm just thinking I'll crap it's almost dark I mean it's it's I mean we're we're half hour away from twilight an hour away from pitch black and I don't know where I'm at

54:41because I hadn't been on this trail before we're we're still at that point probably three miles away from camp and and the bottom is about two miles down and and then you got across multiple rivers which I didn't know which sucks out of e-bike so anyways we we as we go down I'm I'm I'm hearing brush cracking and stuff off to both sides of me as I come down the ridge and I finally get down to the bottom of the that last that last bit and honestly I don't I don't remember looking around for you know sign or anything I was more like get out of here so you know get back to the camper you know make sure that she's safe and the horses safe so so anyways we get to the bottom there's a river there got across it it's all on video I have several years of me crossing those those there's three I two of them are pretty tiny but one's pretty good size so I had to do the crossing

55:45um I was so beat up I could I could barely walk man I'm fairly athletic I but K and do all kinds of stuff on the farm but um that that just tore me up I crashed probably 30 times so anyways I can't I'm worried about getting through the water because it's about three and a half feet deep and it's about 50 feet wide and it's moving pretty fast and I told my girlfriend I'm I'm gonna drop the bike and if I do it's probably gonna burn the whole thing up you know can you give me a hand here so she's like yeah yeah no problem so she ties the horse off on the other side of the river walks back through and helps me walk my bike across um so she gets back on the horse and we start to head up this trail and she still doesn't know where she's at you know it doesn't know how far camp is can't remember the trail and she's like what you know I'm am I supposed to remember this yes you took us out here so so anyways uh we we go through this kind of swampy area with skunk cabbage and stuff and then just on the other side of it's this meadow and it was a fresh burnout

56:47meadow that um I have I have a tons of video of this area but um it's a burnout area the the burn must have been fairly recently there was no undergrowth in there to speak of I mean it had to been recent there's just a little bit of ferns and stuff is only like two feet tall at the time now it's like you know eight feet tall so so anyways and a lot of trees are filled in but um so anyways we get we get to this uh this opening in the meadow it's about I want to say a quarter mile from the rivers and um and she goes oh crap I left my riding crop at the river I got to go back and get it and I said well um leave it I'll buy you a new one and she goes no this crop was given to me by a friend that entrusted me with it and I'm not going to take the tonne lashing and I go well you know you heard the whoops and uh so it's you you know what's going on you know she's like I'm you know I'm gonna go get that crop so I was like fine she goes well and she should have

57:49rode the horse but she had me hold on to the horse and she walked it because she thought it was closer than what it was so she takes off walking and the horses you know watching her walk off and I'm holding my bike up so I put it on the kickstand and I'm holding the horse and I see some grass off to one side of the trail and there's this kind of open meadow there uh from where the trees burned burned out and um and I'm trying to get the horse to eat this grass right there because you know they it's good for them to have something on their stomach when they run he just had a bunch of water at the river so some food would be good so he starts eating and then he just looks up and he's just fixated across this field those ears are like pointy right at it and you know pointy right at it and uh so I'm looking down the you know what's he looking at you know and all I see is these these burned out snags uh you know 225 feet away um I don't see nothing so I'm trying to pull his head down to eat and he he he had looked up

58:54saw that and then he turned and was looking for his rider you know my girlfriend he's looking for her and he wants her I mean he wants that out of there and he spins around real fast almost came out of my my hands and is staring back at that field and I'm thinking well you know there must be a deer or something you know I don't know um so I try to pull his head down to eat and he won't eat and this horse loves food he lives for food if he's not running drinking he's eating so anyways he he won't eat so I know something's up and he keeps staring at across this field so I finally see what he's looking at and at first I thought it was a burn mark on a tree because I was way too big to be anything else way too big is you know 9 10 foot but what it looked like is a man in a hoodie with I'd say probably probably 9 foot tall at least um and and about half as wide as he was tall

1:00:04at the shoulders um not not like a solid block down kind of like VD in a little bit to his at his waist um but his legs were the size of telephone poles and his arms were near that big and I'm thinking is that a person in a hoodie and a black all wearing all black in a hoodie and at this at this time the sun was coming down right right behind the trees he's standing in front of so I'm looking into a sunset the sun had already gone over the the ridge but it was still it was still fairly bright um so I could I could I could clearly see the black figure um but I couldn't see any features on it um but then I'm I'm just thinking well that that what is that is is that a human is that is that a burn mark and then all of a sudden it started rocking I'm all busted up

1:01:07my bike has no brakes it won't run the battery's dead on it by then so I have to push it anywhere it goes or leave it and I'm holding on to a horse and my girlfriend is gone the opposite direction that we need to go to go get a riding crop so I'm holding on to the horse and it's anxious and it's it's it's it's fighting me it wants to go back to herd I'm holding it back and because I don't want it you just run off down a trail so I'm standing there and I'm watching this thing and it's moving towards me and it's moving really slow though it's taking like a step and then it rocks back and forth and then it takes a step and then it rocks back and forth and it the more I look at it the more I started feeling terrified and like I said I got bare my driveway I throw rocks at them you know I'm not really not afraid of much but seeing this thing

1:02:10it terrified me and I was just kind of stunned and I felt like I couldn't move I'm holding on to the horse and I just like and I caught myself going you know breathe move you know and I you know think what yeah what do you do well my woman is down that trail I ain't leaving her and she expects me to be right here so I'm gonna be right here because if I'm right here and it's staring at me it's not staring at her so I'll be the bait I'm just gonna stand here until she comes and I guess if it comes in close I'll do what I can you know trying you know pull my machete or whatever but I'm pretty screwed actually so you know not trying to be a tough guy or anything but I just had limited options so I'm there I am standing there petrified I can see the horse is pretty upset and the closer this thing gets the more upset the horse is getting it's it's starting to dance

1:03:11around a little bit and it's getting harder to hold because it's pulling me around with it which kind of shook me out of my out of my you know being petrified with terror you know that I felt at the time now remember I'd been taking pictures all day I had my cell phone it was actually in she had put it in one of her saddlebags she has like these bags that go across the neck of the horse but I don't know which pockets in and I'm not going to take my eyes off of this thing to find the phone and honestly I wasn't even thinking photographs you know just like I wasn't thinking you about shampooing it up or something I wanted to want it or combing its hair I I'm just like what you know what is this thing and I know what it is but my brains telling me this this can't be and I'd already seen two of them by then so I saw one looking over a log at it at Rears Horse Camp but it was uphill all I saw was the shoulders and head staring at me for

1:04:14about five minutes and then it moved away but when they're moving towards you it's different and this thing kept rocking and about every third rocket would take a step it's it's hands came down almost to its knees had long arms they were they were massive massive bigger than my legs it's legs were like I said telephone poles you know it's it's it's it's it's chest to shoulder to shoulder on a four four and a half feet across easy no neck cone head can't see the facial features because the sun's behind it not in front of it and it's getting dark and it's walking towards me and I see it it's getting ground so it had moved from about and I'm guessing here distance but about 250 feet to about 200 feet maybe maybe under that and then here

1:05:17comes my girlfriend up the trail so she comes up the trail and she's got a riding crop and she's all happy as a clam she got her riding crop and I'm kind of I'm looking over at her and I go honey look out in that field do you see anything out there because at this point I'm you know I'm not in my scene something you know what's going on so she looks out there she goes there's a big foot standing out there rocking back and forth yes there is let's go she goes well don't you want to stand here and watch it for a bit no I'm good I am good I've been watching it for eight minutes yeah I'm I'm all caught up on wanting to see one I'm I've I've seen one now so let's go so she's so kindhearted she said well I'll push the bike you you you take the horse because the bike was much harder to move and we start going away from it and I keep looking back and and it

1:06:21stayed in one place thank God it stayed in one place so we we get about 50 feet away and she goes by the way we're here and whoops up the trail she saw she said I saw two above the trail and two below the trail there they were standing behind trees and they had their arm around it and they were looking around the tree at me from about 50 feet away and one of them was down below a log and it was looking over the top of the log at me but yeah they were looking from around trees and and watching me go by and the horse stared right at him that's that's how she knew they were there to begin with the horse looked right at him and you know you look right between those ears out of horse and you see what it's looking at and she says yeah just all of a sudden they just popped right out they're jet black and you know by now it's twilight you it's not bright out so and by the time we got down to that meadow I mean there it was it was starting to get starting to get to where it's hard to see Tyler Reddick here from 2311 racing the rush of racing nothing beats it

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1:08:29getting contact with Morgan and Morgan what what would I do if I got into an accident probably the easiest way is dialing pound law that's pound five two nine from your cell phone we are always open our call centers always waiting to take your call 24 seven three sixty five wow Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan America's largest injury law firm thanks for coming by the show thanks for having me visit for the people dot com for an office near you you know I could see across this meadow and stuff because it was kind of open but it wasn't real bright so we're going up this trail we know it's camps that way because we could see it from the peak up above but we don't know how many miles we are out and and we don't know how many more water crossings and we had to cross the sandy river you know who knows we've never been there before well she had but you know no sense of direction so we're going up the trail and there's a few cross trails but I'm seeing horse tracks at this one and multiple tracks going in one direction I said that's that's got to be the

1:09:30main trail going back to back to camp so we take that trail and it gets it's pretty much almost pitch black by the time we get get to the end of this trail which is only like another half mile three quarters of mile from from where we had our siding and it pops out onto the road and I recognize the road because of a sign that's right there and it's right by our camp ground I'm like oh thank god because it's it's dark now and I didn't hear anything you know on either side of the trail or anything coming in but had seen quite enough and sure it was a day so so we we walk into camp and earlier that day I had gathered all we're the only people in this camp gone there's nobody else I'd gathered wood from all these other campsites and had it stacked about five foot tall so I carried it all over to the bonfire area and just lit it all at once and I had the biggest fire it was huge and I'm like okay I feel a little safer now and I got my 45 with

1:10:35hollow points out of my camper and I'm carrying it in my pocket and I'm cooking dinner just as fast as I can outside on our cook stove and and we're like you know getting weight we should probably go to bed so we're we have the camper you know with you know thin metal walls make you feel safer you know that and you know the 45 but but before we finished dinner we're sitting there just about done and and off to the left about no 200 feet away you're here a whoop and then off to the right about same distance whoop and then straight out in front of us down the hill big tree gets pushed over crash I mean really big tree you know I don't know if they've been waiting for somebody to come in to push that one over but it's like they saved it up for us they were like yeah bed time let's go so we we we had taken our dogs out they were we had them in a in kennels in our truck

1:11:35which look about we have this small outside kennel that they can run around in and and swooped up out of that through their butts in the camper and called it a night nothing else happened that night you know they probably I mean that we know of they probably came in and you know got a close look at our our rig and everything but the horse wasn't distressed didn't hear any weird noises nothing woke me up and you know I I slept with the curtains pulled and and our top vent open which creates kind of a parabolic dish you pick up sound pretty well and it was kind of pointed towards our horse carouse so if the horse got upset I I could jump out with a 45 or whatever you know cougars bears or whatever so anyways that that was that was the end of of that Odyssey I had something even worse happen later on in some other sightings in that same area that we could touch on another time but what what I want to get to on this one though is that I was so scared

1:12:36half I was terrified that I didn't want to go in the woods anymore I was I was done and it took about a week or two my girlfriend coaxing me to go you know a little bit in the woods with the horse and then further further and then I was back in it but in that two weeks that I was terrified and wouldn't go I contacted Cliff Bergman at at his museum and it's on the way to Mount Hood they're and boring and I told them what happened and and you know for people to be aware up there don't watch out they're in there and be careful and I just wanted you know for people's safety I was just thinking these people need to know these these things are doing this and and he said oh yeah you know the low low pass is full of them because he goes whereabouts where yeah and I told him you know whereabouts we were he he went up that trail and casted about three or four cast of he thinks they're juveniles the ones that he caught I went there two weeks later and I didn't cast anything I didn't know how to or what that even barely knew what it was but I took a photograph

1:13:39and I laid my sunglasses down across the toes and they're about nine inches wide so as a gift for doing a solid for Cliff I did a TV interview when he was first opening his museum they wanted somebody that had a eyewitness siding that was recent mine was like two weeks before that but so I did I did an interview it's on YouTube for KGW6 channel six I think but for doing that he gave me a lured meadow cast like like I'm not sure I think third generation so it was a copy of a copy really nice one it's beautiful it's 17 inches long and it's about about six and a half or seven inches at the toes well the track that I found is about two inches wider on each side in the big toes like like I don't know three quarters bigger and I got a photograph of it with my glasses sitting in front of it so they put that on the on the news channel and and I showed him you know

1:14:40here's the toes and my glasses are crossed to show the width and they took the picture and inverted it the wrong way and said yeah here's a cast and they're trying to show the length of the cast as as a whole foot and it's just the toes so anyways the only impression that was in the soil was it I found a track down by the river we had crossed it was not on anywhere near the trail I found it in some brush next to the trail paralleling it on on on some softer that was going up this ridge I'm not where you'd normally think to even look for something but I just want to proof so so anyways I got a picture of that and so so that that one more thing came of that is I had previously talked to Joe B. Lart I bought his book Bigfoot Highway or even Bigfoot Highway and an amazing book that guy's probably the best writer of any Bigfoot book I've ever read is funny he's great I mean if you want a funny outlook on on this and he's not making fun of

1:15:41this of people it's just fun stuff he says about the situation you know he's just real so anyways I I had talked back and forth with them a little bit in emails because he signed my book for me I was like hey man I had a siding you want to you want to see it and he's like yes so I brought him out to to where I had my siding we walked out there and he and I have been going back to that area every year since so so I hang out with Joe every summer it's pretty cool he's he knows a lot he also has some friends that you know Tom Powell and some other people that I've camped with and I invite them I I have I go into this place every summer and we take our horse trailer in the horses but it all started with that Odyssey in 2019 we found that area and I've seen him in other places but they're they're in the summer they're they're around Mount Hood pretty heavy so so we know you know pretty much guaranteed you're gonna have some activity but that was 2019 I like I said we've been going back every year ever since I've made GoPro videos I finally got

1:16:45a camera that runs so when I'm scared half to death I don't have to remember and I have I have video of one standing in the meadow the next year I got video of one pushing a tree over on a on a ledge up above us that had been spookiness all the way up the trail I have video of rocks their own tree structures you wouldn't believe and I can I can get into all that but chronologically 2019 kind of set off the the the first terrified to now I'm you know we're gonna be out there anyways writing I'm gonna I'm gonna look into these things really deep and I started to take a deep dive do you any questions for me Gary it's it's one of the most intense encounter stories I've heard in my five years of doing this show like honestly and and I know this area is crazy because I've talked to people that have also had things happen in Lolo pass and I mean the area it's in is

1:17:49wow I mean it's right next to bull run right like yeah it's a few miles down the road exactly am I gonna thank you for for walking us through that but man it sounds like this is just the beginning of the story really and I would love to have you back on if you'd be willing to you know if if there's other any other things you could share since that time or you know just yeah it's it's an incredible incredible account when you were watching it for eight minutes what was the sound like in that area no sound yeah okay that's how you know they're there um and and if you if they're all sudden it goes silent you have a chance of an encounter um if it's noisy but they're unless it's brush breaking if they're not around but everything every time I've seen one and I've now seen I've had nine sightings now um you know with the horse around um but I've also heard them talk on four different occasions

1:18:52I've heard them talking I've heard one screaming like a deaf mute really close to camp walk around and these these are all you know stuff I can I could talk on another show but I've seen tree structures where they take limbs this big round and they shove it through tree trunks I have photos um you know no man can do that they've shoved them in straight in up and down up this trail and then uh the US Forest Service goes in and cuts those trunks off well they're already trunks what do you need to cut them again for well they have these branches shoved in it that you can't pull out um I have signs that are all twisted up and put in wrong places um all kinds of tree structures I got I have video I have photographs I have I have terabytes of video of of me and the horse going up the trails just us and going you know way out and back and I have a lot of fun video of just us in the horse in places where they're not at um because I try to video all of our rides just for for fun but I have so much uh so much data and then I have friends that uh have had conversations with them while they're walking by uh one one had a conversation with my friend uh didn't understand

1:19:59I word it was saying but he tried to talk to it and it was a female he said it was the most beautiful voice he's ever heard most beautiful female voice and it had walked up a trail by him and joby art and and was within 10 feet of him he said it was about a eight foot tall female and um he was lit by moonlight but it was it was talking to him as it came up the trail just a real quiet voice and he said it was just real pretty voice and he said hi how you doing how are you tonight how's everything going he tried to carry a conversation and he would pause and it would talk and then it would pause and he would talk and it talked to him for about a minute or two as it walked by and jo and his wife were asleep in a tent just across the path and it walked between him and jo was so pissed when he woke up he he missed that you know um but but I hang out with john john's the guy that heard that and john's a really good friend we hang out a lot um and uh we have good times there's trails I won't go up anymore it's too dangerous um only because they shove trees down towards us

1:21:03but um and I got that on video but uh but yeah a lot has gone I would like to come back and uh it it feels good to to get everything out in one place I haven't talked about this stuff in a couple years right and I just been going up and and field researching that's what we do we just go out and ride and and it's just part of what we do so your encounters are incredible Gary thank you so much for coming on I mean I I definitely would love to have more future conversations with you uh but thank you so much for for coming on the show today and um again listeners uh go check out Gary's channel I'll have it linked in the show notes and subscribe to it there's so much to watch there that is really fascinating big foot research project yeah yeah um I I bought the name from um one of the four horsemen used to uh be up at Mount Hood that's a big foot research project yeah yeah that symbol on the side of his truck I I bought the brand yeah I bought the brand so I

1:22:05so I owned the I owned the business name so that's got to be a story to yourself but man we will be in touch Gary thank you so much to be continued uh what a conversation all right well uh pleasure talking with you and look forward to hearing from you again have you ever heard all the accounts of big foot activity around Oak Ridge Oregon and you think to yourself man I would love to get out in those woods and experience it for myself well guess what this year you can if this is interesting to you stay tuned because it's pretty cool Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July 10th through the 11th 2026 it's going to be even better than the previous years reason number one I'll be one of the speakers it's going to be wild I'll probably I'll say this there may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else because let's just say sometimes it's uh well

1:23:05you just got to be there we'll leave it that more about looking for big foot in the Oak Ridge woods now check this out you may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series searching for Sasquatch well this year you can not only go to the festival but you can also sign up for a track deep in the wild forest outside of Oak Ridge with Jason Kenzie to the big foot spots to look for big foot there's only eight spots to sign up for this and yes this will also be filmed for the next chapter in his documentary series which is searching for Sasquatch this is a once in a lifetime deal it's just it's gonna be a wild wild experience to get a ticket head on over just Sasquatch Summer Fest.com and listeners can use the code BSP like big foot society podcast

1:24:06in order to get a two-day pass for the price of a one-day pass so thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so that uh you guys can can get a little a little help with the cost there appreciate that Priscilla I hope to see you at the booth in Oak Ridge this year we can talk about your encounter was able to talk to so many people last year and the year before it is an incredible time you're not gonna want to miss it and I'll see you there before we wrap this episode I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners if you're in the military any branch or forces and if you've seen something that no one can explain or if you're a national park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground or if you're with the FBI a federal agency or working intelligence and

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