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Welcome to Radio Rental. The scariest stories you've ever heard in your life. All told by real people. And off we go. This wasn't a human being there, I saw. There's something here in this house. Something out of this world. There was a woman moving through the hall. I stepped back and I was completely alone. Radio Rental is available now. Listen for free on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back. Midday, Shell. Hugh Douglas. Joe Jolly, how are you guys doing? That's two, one, five, five, nine, two, ninety, four, ninety, four. We will get to... We have a lot to get to actually on the show today. LA Tour Park joins us at noon today. His take on what happened yesterday with jail and a waddle going for a first round pick. What does it mean for the AJ sweepstakes here? The price of the brick went up. Well, I don't know about that. Maybe, but we're losing potential suitors. So, I mean, you could say the price went up. And I think a lot of people have said that. But if we're losing people that are involved in the trade market, I don't know if it works that way. Elliot made it. Elliot had a good take on this yesterday.
The Broncos are the Pats direct competition in the AFC. So, the Pats would be more likely to want to trade for AJ? Like, I mean, yeah. It's now in arms race. Oh, it is. So, it is. You know, I actually think that the draft is now the next state that I'm circling. Because what if the Patriots draft a receiver in the first round? What is how we do then? The AJ stays here. Well, I just... Well, the Pats are not going to give up what we want if they also add a receiver in the first round. Well, they're just not. Yeah. I think... We'll have this conversation at some point. If they're going to do this, it cannot be after June 1st. It has to be before the draft. If the Eagles are going to do that. Yeah. They can't one bring him to camp. And... I agree. But like, allow this to happen. I think he'll be at LTA. Ooh. Now, him coming LTA is going to be the tail tail. If he's not there then, you know, then I might move on my stance. Well, you should have moved a while ago. No! All right. Well, speaking of... I want you to hear this. All right. 2-1-5-5-9-2-9-4-9-4-9-4 to hop in. You can hop in on the Bryce Harper conversation. I feel better about Bryce after last night, the big home run,
clutch home run, eighth inning, unlike Hayter Hugh over here. I saw something that I could feel good about. And you can call Coping. You could say, I'm crazy. It's one app app app. That's fine. I needed something to feel good about what Bryce Harper heading into the season. Last night he gave it to me that. That is Bryce meeting the moment as we see many times in the big spot for the Phillies. So, good night, last night for Bryce. Unfortunately, we lose. But I did hear this yesterday. Interesting to hear how Hugh Douglas takes this one. Here is Adam Schaefter once again saying it in so many words that AJ does not want to be here in Philadelphia. Well, I think a lot had to do with the math that was involved. If you follow the money, which often is the case, you can usually get a reading of where things are. And if the Eagles were to have traded AJ Brown and still were to trade AJ Brown before June 1st, Philadelphia would take on a dead cap charge north of 40 million for this upcoming season. If they waited until after June 1st, the dead money incurred would drop below 20 million
for the upcoming season as it would be split between this and next year. And so, I still would lean towards an AJ Brown trade because I think that that's what he would prefer. But the Eagles are not going to be in the market to just give him away. And there has to be a team out there that's willing to go make it happen. And right now, that is not in the case. All right, lots of impact there, especially the market and how many teams are actually interested, which has become, I did becoming a problem for how he grows from here. But he said it once again there, that's what AJ Brown would prefer. So it's that I think. Well, yeah, I mean, just like I thought. Well, but last time he'd had this. Even though he would like to be moved. There was no I think there. But he would prefer. But he would, I think. I think AJ's not going to be traded. See what I did there? Yeah. Might well call me Adam chef to the black Adam chef. No, you're not the same thing. You're not the black Adam chef. I'm the black Adam chef. I think he wants to stay here. What was the difference? Then you're calling chef to rely. I'm not calling chef to anything. Let me just say it.
He said I think. And I think he's also said before explicitly. Yeah. And guess what? AJ's still here. So it's interesting you're hanging onto his words this time. But not the last time. I'm just saying I'm listening like this whole time. I've listened to what's being said. I don't think you heard it. I think you're willfully not listening. Strategic wordplay that the four horsemen have done. Yeah. So let me ask you a question that because you're right. You're hung up on words and wording when the rest of us just see the obvious. Hold the line. Okay. Do you need to hear AJ Brown say it? Yes. You need AJ Brown to either say it or post it. And you know what? And if I hear him say it, then you know what I'm saying? I say aye. Okay. Artificial intelligence. If you do that. No, I'm not going to do that. I'm out. If he says, if I hear AJ Brown says he wants to be out of Philadelphia, I will concede to Elle. Okay. So you need to hear him or see it. What if you just get traded? I mean, okay. I can see the Elle. Okay.
But until then, hold the line. I wonder if people. I wonder if there is. Hold the line. Last week we had a conversation. Do you now believe it? It was after shefter said that he doesn't want to be here. We had a conversation with everyone out there about whether or not you actually believe it. Do you now believe AJ really doesn't want to be here? It was astonishing. I think Kyle really was disappointed in what happened on how many people last week did not believe still that AJ Brown doesn't want to be here and led by Hugh Douglas. Well, now we have once again. And Devon. On AJ Brown. We run it out of snacks. Yeah. You guys are in trouble. We call him Uber from an island. Uber eats. I'm glad Devon will eat that much because he run out of snacks. Well, I don't know what you guys are going to do because the island is about to dry up. Bottom line is this. It's to me. It's so obvious he doesn't want to be here. It's been obvious for months and months. But do you need to hear him say it? Yes. That might be. I'm telling you. I know we think the Eagles are in control of this. And I think they are to an extent. At some point, if he takes it to the next level, that's what the next level is, right?
The next level is. I want out. Make a stink. Make a stink. And start publicly saying he wants out. Yes. Call how he rose been a liar. Pull a heart in with Dara Moore. I mean, who knows where this could go. We've seen these straight requests get wacky in the NFL. So I think that could be next. Hopefully we don't get there because that doesn't help the Eagles. But I don't need to hear it. I just know he doesn't want to hear. Here's the funny thing. We have heard it. Where do you think this is coming from? From Shepter. AJ. No. My goodness. Hold on. Hold on. I'm going to you people, everybody. You people are going to make me lose my mind. Where do you people are every day when you come up? What do you mean? I mean, it's so ridiculous. Can we wake up? Can we put a pole up with that pole up? Yeah, we did. It's a joke is what it is. Hold on. I mean, hold on. You know, I'm actually holding on. I'm at the point where I feel bad for these people because I don't know what they're going to do. When eventually does it like, I'd do in the towel a long time ago. I'm mentally preparing myself for him to be out of here. I don't like the idea, but I at least am seeing the forest through the trees and you are closing
your eyes. You're wearing a blindfold and you're plugging your ears. No, you're not. I am. You are not. You are refusing to listen. I am listening to everything that's being said. You're not for horses. You know what this is? Because they are reputable and respectable. Yeah, but you're not. You think it goes in one ear at the other. If they were reputable and respectable, then you would take what they say. No, I don't because the strategic word played that they choose. Why is it strategic? He's saying he wants out. No, that's the strategic. That's the strategic. That's from his agent. Hey, I think he wants out. Because last week, I look at it like this, man. The one time he said it like that. It's remarkable. No, I mean, he's been strategically playing the word game anyway. I mean, a tremendous amount of respect for Adam Schaefter, Diana Rossini and the reporting that they do. I just don't believe it. I don't believe AJ wants to be gone until I hear from him. So the three trade requests during the season, the four horse spin? No, I believe the trade requests. I do believe that. So then, so we've gotten better or something. I believe it was because of the frustration of the situation. Yeah, the situation is not changed. It would be done by now.
No, it did change. It got a new coordinator. Just because you're yelling at me. No, maybe not me. Yes, it does. Oh, my. No, it's not. You know, before you say you say what you're going to say here. You know what this is? I was thinking about glasses off because I'm getting ahead. It's not going to make me tell you what this is. You know what this is? We do a relationship analogy sometimes, right? This is like you don't want to be with me. But that's what I'm. She's texting other guys, buddy. She's texting other guys. She's ignoring you. She's everyone around you sees the relationship. I said she wants. Right. Can you read the writing on the wall? No. Until I hear her. I'm a hanging out. So even if she's out getting dinner with other guys. I'm going to get these flowers in this candy. Mm-hmm. And I'm going to come knock on the door. No, they call it dinner with other guys. You're calling it right then. You are a sucker. I mean, that's what this is. You are a sucker. I mean, believe it. I don't believe she's leaving. All right. It's the first hour of the show today. Hugh Douglas calls Harper a loser and still doesn't believe that he wants that.
Hold the line. What line? The line. He's not going anywhere. I don't think he's going anywhere. I really don't. 215, 592, 94, 94. Do you actually need to hear AJ say it? Because that's the space that Hugh Douglas resides. And he needs the girlfriend to tell him, I'm done with you. And she needs to look at me and she needs to say it definitively. I'm going to lose my faith in you. Look at me and be like, I quit you. And I'll be like, I don't believe it. Have you considered the idea that maybe the Eagles and AJ are just trying to do this diplomatically and together? Of course. Like, he's told them I don't want to be here. And how he said, just give me time. I'm talking about, I think they're telling him, give it time. No, no, no, no, no, no. I think they're telling him, give it time. And I will trade you. Just give it time. We can work this out. Hey, this nobody's working anything out. We got the man in triplets. It's going to be okay. So, you know, well, now I'm thinking back to remember when AJ was doing all the tweeting and Jeffrey Laurie had to pull him aside and talk to him. Yeah. And what we heard or at least what we were told about the conversation was just keep it, you know, keep, keep it from off social media
and stuff. Yeah. Is it possible? Remember, it's similar time to when he was asking for trades during the season. Right around the deadline. Was this them saying, hey, we just keep it harsh and we will make this happen for you after the season. We can't do it right now, but we'll make it happen for you after the season. Just keep it screwed off. Let's try to finish the season as strong as we can together and then we'll do what we have to do in the off season. I think that's exactly what it was. And they're trying to, because if AJ comes out and says what you wanted to say, their leverage is destroyed. It's like they have none. They can't hold on to, we'll keep him. See, I don't, I don't believe it. You know why? And I'm gonna tell you why. I feel like, okay, say we take the conversation that you just presented to me and say we will trade you at the end of the season. We will accommodate you. Yes. You don't take, to me, you don't take such a hard line with what you're asking for. Why? Even though, even though he might be worth that because you made a promise. But I feel like, to me, as long as the promise is fulfilled, the timeline, like the season is start until September.
So like, how he's under no obligation to do it now tomorrow the next day, as long as AJ in camp is on a different team, I think the promise is fulfilled. But, but see, here's the thing. If, if, say, for the story that Kyle presented to me, that you were gonna trade him at the end of the season. Yeah. There's a season's been a couple months now. No, that's a magic. No, no, listen to what I'm saying, Joe, because you are dealing with an agent that has other clients, right? Right. And you are in a position where, I think where the Eagles are strong is that they're a reputable negotiating team. I feel like that's the case when it comes to the Philadelphia Eagles. More so than say, you know, the alleged shadiness of the Baltimore Ravens and some of the stuff that they do. So I'm thinking that in order to keep those lines of communication open and keep that good rapport, that you accommodate the player, regardless of what you're asking. Well, but that's bad business. No, it's not. It sure is. No, it's not because you got to remember Joe. It's not about AJ, it's about the Eagles. But no, but you got to remember, if we're operating under the premise
of a gentleman's handshake and accommodating what you want and you want out of here, you get them out of here as soon as you possibly can. But to be fair, the new league year started last Wednesday. Okay. For us, the Eagles have been eliminated for two months and a week, right? Yes. So it's felt long for us. Yes. Literally, the Eagles have only been allowed to trade AJ for a week. Yes. And it feels, so to me, like, I understand what you're saying. Like, if they had some sort of agreement, they owe him to get him out of here. If they told him calm down, we'll get you out of here. It's really only been a week. Like for us, it feels like it's been 10 years. Yes. It's been a week of the new league year. Yes. And with that being said, there was reckless speculation that AJ was going to get traded before the combine was over. Yeah. But he couldn't literally. No, but what I'm saying is this. If we're operating, like, I'm operating right now under the premise of a gentleman's handshake and I'm going to accommodate your name. Right. Right. And we know how he likes New England and everything. If that was what I was going to do, if that's what I told AJ I was going to do,
I would have accommodated that in a lot of time that he wanted, that I don't believe that that's the case. See, but there's only, like, to me, and I understand your idea, then I said, and where you're going with it, to me, you can only bend over backwards so far for him. It can't be, we'll just trade you as soon as season ends, even if we get crapped for you because we told you. No, you're going to have to just sit tight and we'll get you out of here for an ex-season starts. Yeah. I hear what you're saying. When I think of this situation, and again, people, I have nothing to base this off of. This is me doing what I like to do and recklessly speculate. Yeah. I don't feel like AJ has an issue with the organization. I'm Jennifer Scher, and I'm Angela Kinsey, and we have the podcast Office Ladies. Every Wednesday will be sharing even more exclusive stories and lots of laughs. Follow and listen to Office Ladies on the free Odyssey app and wherever you get your podcasts. I don't feel so. It's not, it's not one of those. Like, if AJ had an issue with the organization, I think that everything that we're talking about,
he would have talked about it in the papers and all this other stuff. I think that would have been the case. I think AJ's, his angst, was with the situation that he was in. And the quarterback. And I feel like, well, I didn't say that. Who's still here. And I feel like they're trying to repair this situation. That's why I feel like they're slow playing as long as they can. And that's why the man you're trippinus are here. AJ's trippinus are here to save the quarterback. AJ, they. AJ strikes me as emotional, but not an idiot. Like, if you, if he were explained by somebody in the Eagles that like, hey, let's keep this silence. We'll work on something for you. Then I think he would play ball. Like, you see that stuff come out when he's tweeting and stuff. That's in the heat of the moment. The fact that it's still going on now tells me this isn't just an emotional outburst. There is, there is a problem that is in the organization that they did not get rid of this off season. What problem? It's either. No, no, no, I'm saying it clearly wasn't the Kevin Batullo thing. I know everyone wanted it to be Kevin Batullo. And now all of a sudden that man is here. AJ is fine. It's clearly either Nick Sireani or Jalen Hertz.
The problem is still here. That's very apparent. I also think, and what we could say what we want about the reports. His agent would not have been allowed to go to the combine and talk to their teams without the Eagles permission. That's like, you can't do that. The Eagles have to give that. Man or woman, whoever's agent is, they get a man. Give the agent permission to do that. Like that, they're signing off on that because it actually makes their job easier. It like takes work off of how he's played. If the agent goes to the Broncos and says. No, I get the best deal he can. Or it just like starts the conversation. Like how much would you pay my guy? How much do you want him? And then we'll go back to the Eagles kind of a middleman. So I don't think any of that's going on without AJ and his agent and the Eagles working together. You're definitely right about that. But like I said, I feel like this is a situation where they're trying to slow play this and they want AJ here. They want him to calm down there. The more time that this is slow play because I feel like AJ is an emotional individual. I feel like the more that they slow play this, the more that AJ, you know, he fellowships with it, the people we need to fellowship with
and they can probably try to calm him down and you know, try to get him to come back for another seat. I would love to hear someone have a story in the next few weeks of if any of that's happening. Because if I had to guess right now, I'd say there's zero contact. I just, other than like maybe a fun group chat because they're teammates, I just think there's zero football contact between the Eagles and AJ. I doubt he's talking to Mannion. I doubt he's talking to Jalen. I think it's everyone's kind of gone their separate ways and we'll find out when it trade happens. All right, let's go to Mark Ingers. What's up, Mark? Mark. Man, let me tell you guys something. You guys are missing the point here. It has nothing to do with AJ, what he wants, what he doesn't want, what his agent wants. AJ has no value. He has no value. Team looked at the tape and saw a guy who quit. So yeah, his agent's going to smile and say, oh yeah, we're fielding offers and we're looking for that. Nobody wants anything to do with this guy. They saw a guy who quit. His name is Mud. When DJ Moore and Jalen Wattel, who are like the 20th and 21st best receivers in the league,
gets snatched up before AJ. Whoa, that rings alarms. I'm telling you, I think the good old boys, AKA the owners sat at the round table and said, this guy's not worth the juice, the squeeze, and all that stuff. I don't think, I think the Eagles are going to end up cutting them because he's not welcome back in the locker room and he's not welcome anywhere. He's not welcome anywhere. He's not welcome. He's not welcome in the locker room. Who told you that? That's what I believe. You reckon it's okay. My fault. I don't know about welcome. They could. They could. All right. Hold on. The locker room. Hold on a second. The locker room stuff, whatever. I do think there is a world where the Eagles just decide they don't want them on the football team anymore. And then it becomes, do they just take the whatever offer they could get? What's the hit for that? Is it still 40? Well, you're talking about an actual cut. Say it's saying after June 1st, is it still 40 or is it just a 20? Well, that would be a trade. I got to look what it would be to. I mean, we haven't even. We haven't even. That accelerates the money, right? So it. He will not be welcome.
49. It's 49. 49. 49. 49. 49. He is the worst thing you can do. And the worst thing you can put on tape. When you put on tape that you've quit. And he did it multiple times. It wasn't just the playoff game. He did it in the Denver game. He did it in the Tampa Bay game after halftime. He did it in the Green Bay game. Of course, the guy has quit. And GM's are not stupid. They're not going to pay $30 billion to a guy. And he quit on a team that went to the football and won one. Can I push back just a little bit, Mark? Because I feel like we have. No, let me just let me tell you something. Because I feel like we have revisionist history when it comes to this. Because there's a lot. There's a lot on the table when it comes to all of this. You remember when we played the Giants the first time? Yeah. You remember when Brian David had his press conference? Yes. Do you remember anything from that press conference that resonated with you about the Philadelphia Eagles? Well, the resident we need by that game was when Brian David was trying to bust into the...
The blue tent. When it's trying to get the guy, I never did anything like that before. I haven't either. I was funny. Before the game was played. I made before the game was played. He said something that was... He took a shot at the quarterback. He said... He said, oh, by the way, there are receivers that are open. That's what he said. He said that. So... You know what I remember about that, Giants? I remember that. You remember that. You were on a slant. You were on a slant and a guy bare hugged them and tackled them on the one yard line. But the point is the question. But the point is... And then the very next play, Jalen threw it in the center. No, remember that. But the reason why I bring that up is because just... You know, just playing devil's advocate. When you say that nobody wants him, I would venture to say that a lot of people probably felt the same way about that. So AJ has value. So I don't think... I say all that to say, AJ has value. So is there the idea no one wants him as strong? But the league is telling us something.
The Eagles are not getting great offers. I mean, the league is telling us he's not the same player he used to be. I think the Eagles are saying one thing. But doing something totally different. But what is the point? Like that, I guess... If you... If you're... But then stop taking offers. I guess I can't wrap my mind around the idea of they want him to stay. They're trying to fix this and market phone call. Yet we're still doing this. They could just cut this off and saying they're not taking offers. He will be on the football team. I... I guess I can't wrap my mind around. Why are they wasting time in playing the game? Because this is... This is still a fluid situation. Right. And I'm thinking that there is still... AJ probably still feels some kind of way. And I feel like they're trying to convince him that it's not going to be like a user. But how do they convince him by taking phone calls from the Broncos and the Patriots? You have to... Because Joe, the reason why they're probably doing that is because they haven't convinced him yet. So they're trying to... They're trying to see if they... Like if they put a... They put a cap on and say we'll give you till...
Hopefully you'll change your mind by June 1st, right? Just as... For the sake of this argument. Hopefully you'll change your mind. If we can't convince you that this is going to be different, then we'll trade you. But give us to this data to, you know, to figure this all out. And do something for you that makes you feel comfortable. And the philosophy and the things that we're going to try to implement with this team. Yeah, but... Give us to the OTAs. And let you see what this offense could potentially look like. I just think if there's a chance for trading and they can't let them step on the field for OTAs, he gets hurt, the trade is over. That's why I say it, Joe. I think that the OTAs are going to tell you everything that you need to know about this. If he's not at OTAs, then I will be... I'll say, hey, you know what? He's probably... Why would he show up to OTAs? Why? Because... He doesn't... No, he's not showing us. I'll take that bet. To that bet. But what is he game by showing up? Because he... They're going to try to get him to buy back into an office. He doesn't give a crap about showing my men. I don't believe that. I don't believe it. Showing men? You know what?
He might not give a crap a body. But I feel like they're trying to convince him to take a chance on this new regime. I think that day was last year. Here's my problem with the nobody wants something. The two teams that we know reportedly one of them are the Patriots who were just in the Super Bowl. Yeah. Runner up MVP quarterbacks. And the Rams. Yeah. Okay. All right. So nobody... Who are the best teams that league won him? Nobody is strong. Of course. Nobody's wrong. That's strong. But it's not... The half the league isn't lining up for him. That's the issue. Whether or not it's his fault, the tape's fault, the perceptions fault. I don't know. But like we don't hear half the teams want him. We heard a few. And some of those have already acquired other receivers. 215-592-9494. All right. Your phone calls on all this. Do you need to hear H.A. Douglas obviously does. Bryce Harper did last night make you feel better at Bryce as we head towards the season. Eight days away from opening day. Your phone calls on all that. Elliott's going to join us at noon. And on the other side, we're going to start a campaign for one of our own here at WIP.
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