
About this episode
Paul Polman is the former CEO of Unilever. And Leadership Next host Alan Murray says he was the first CEO of a major company to truly embrace and promote stakeholder capitalism. Early in his tenure he pointed out that capitalism, as we practice it today, isn’t working – and he demanded that business take responsibility for its impact on society. Today’s episode explores how Polman did that at his own company, the pushback he faced, and how he’s tackling the issue with his new company, Imagine.
Also joining Leadership Next is Dov Seidman, founder of LRN and the HOW Institute for Society. Alan calls him “one of the most thoughtful people I know in thinking about how business is changing, and needs to change, the way it operates.”
Get every episode summarized
Each time Leadership Next publishes, we email you a written briefing from the transcript — the topics, who appeared, and any specific claims, with the ad reads skipped.
Email me new episodesFree for 3 shows. No card needed.
No transcript yet
This episode has not been transcribed. Request it and it moves to the front of the queue.
More episodes
More from Leadership Next

2025 Recap: CEOs discuss embracing AI, tracking wellness, and marketing for Gen...
Leadership Next
Dec 30, 202516:23pending

Expedia’s CEO on the U.S. tourism slowdown, AI, and 2026 travel predictions | Le...
Leadership Next
Dec 23, 202530:11pending

Ad legend Dani Richa on AI, risk taking, and how advertising has changed
Leadership Next
Dec 17, 202535:18pending

Why Circle’s CEO Says Stablecoin Regulation Is Essential | Leadership Next
Leadership Next
Dec 9, 202534:48pending