How EMF exposure may disrupt the body’s natural rhythms

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3:04but but I don't know that you know, so I have to start with that. But tell us how EMF's are from your world, because this is something you're, you know, in depths about, and what do they do to our bodies? Yeah, EMF's are electromagnetic fields or frequencies, and they can be native ones or non-native ones, and the non-native ones are the ones when we say EMFs that we're referring to that actually affect us. A lot of people call them EMRs, electromagnetic radiation, because they have a one directional polarizing, vibrational effect on our body that disrupts our energy field, which then affects the chemistry of our body. What types of resources are you familiar with or if you use to get you so deeply entrenched in this, to support how what EMFs do to the body, because it's an area of much conflict. Governments say it doesn't exist, there's nothing to worry about, and then activists like you,

4:08and I have activist friends like Christian Osh that lives in Switzerland, and I have friends that live in Australia that have been fighting this for years, whether it be from EMFs, from cell phone towers, or from satellites, or from cell phones, or from our computer screens, and they all have lots of documented evidence that it's causing lots of harms, but our government would beg to differ. How do we sort out that information, and what information do you lean towards? Well, I simplify it, Dr. T, and just knowing that we're electromagnetic beings, we have this energy field around us, and it's called our bio field, we're just, we're electric, period, but then when you introduce a different source of electricity, that's not native to us, and that's man-made, that's manufactured, there's going to be some bit of a difference, and potentially an effect on our body when there's a different field. So I just

5:12baseline simplify it, and where I found out about it was about 12 years ago, I've worked with professional athletes for almost 30 years, so I started athleticism.com. So about 12 years ago, one of the strongest fittest athletes comes in and said, hey, Justin, I've painted my wrist, and I said, well, where? He pointed right to where his fit bit was, and I said, hey, do you know those are being recalled right now? They're emitting a lot of radiation, they're burning people's skin, they're causing nerve pain. I said, why don't you take the watch off your wrist? So the athlete takes his watch off his wrist, and his pain goes away, and that was the moment for me where I wanted to dive deeper into understanding it, and understanding how we're made, with electricity, and then how different these non-native waveforms are, and so it's quite simple, they're polarizing their one directional,

6:14and we're just not made that way. We're made with waves that are unpolarized, that distribute equally in every direction, and there's a name for them, they call them a scalar wave, and so when you put a one directional into a different waveform, it affects our body in a lot of different ways. So what was that one example of that fit bit on his hand that made you decide to get into EMF production products? That was it, and I had other experiences growing up where I had a dorm room that had a little electoral transformer next to the wall that I had to re-ground myself, that custom health challenges. I used to talk on the phone, accorded phone when I was little, yeah, I talked to a guy as a teenager talking to a girlfriend for too long, and the phone's glued to your head, and then two hours of that, I'm like, why is my ear feeling weird? This is, yeah, it's plugged in, it shouldn't feel that way, so I had a sensitivity to EMFs

7:16or awareness of it before that, and then probably one of the other bigger things that I went through is I took an internship in college, and at a commercial real estate firm, and they put me at an X-ray machine making copies. So I'd circle around the X-ray machine for weeks on and and my fingertips would burn, so back then the X-ray machines were massive, they were size of rooms, and they didn't know the amount of radiation that they were emitting on the papers, they were just super charged, so every time I'd pull a piece of paper off, my fingertips would burn, especially when I'd pull stacks off, and so now years later, almost 30 years later, I have nerve pain in my fingertips from early on EMF challenges, so it's been a progression of a lot of different experiences that brought me to where we are. Why do you think some people are so much more sensitive to EMFs than others? I mean, I've known people, literally, personally known people,

8:21not just stories, that are crippled by the effects of EMFs in their house, and they have to do, like, whole-home, fair-day cages, and they have to, you know, use every possible device, and layers of devices sometimes to do what they can to protect themselves because they get splitting headaches, or they get debilitating pain, or their fatigue is just profound, and then other people, you know, just so wet, I'm sitting in front of four computer screens right now, it doesn't really bother me at all. So what do you think the sensitivity differences between people? Yeah, great question. I feel there's a few different answers to that. There are some studies that showed OH-negative blood types were not as sensitive, and I can see that in my wife, where she's not as sensitive to it. She'll, you know, have a laptop on her lap and not even phaser. And for me, I can't even have that thing near me, you know, and even touching a touch screen,

9:22I feel it, and that leads me to the second thing is if you had an introduction of too much early on, then you feel it later on. So I feel in the next generation, the next 10, you know, 15 plus years, this next generation of kids and people using smart devices and their fingers as stylists will start to have nerve pain just like I do in their fingertips. I feel if you're introduced to something too much directly for too long of a duration, we'll start to see more of that. And then the third thing is if someone is more toxic and then they're carrying more, they might be more of a sponge. So what I've seen is when people hold on to more EMFs in their energy field and internally, if they're carrying extra voltage in their body, they're way more toxic. So with, I know we're going to get into our EMF rocks and our grounding bags, which is our answer to this whole challenge. But when

10:24we go through our tapping protocol with our grounding bags, where you actually hold it and tap on it, what it does is it clears your biofield of any stuck EMF. So there's a seclusion protocol that we use. When we can clear that stuck EMF out of their energy field and recharge their body, they're not as EMF sensitive. And we're met at Dr. Brian Artis's conference where I muscle test hundreds of people in a weekend. And I do that twice a month or last half a dozen plus years. So there's so many people that come in EMF sensitive. When we clear them and recharge them, they don't have to leave the conference because they now can deal with the EMF syndrome. So they're not as sensitive once we clear them. You've probably seen there was a recent study that came out probably within the last couple of months that showed that infants and children like under the age of five that are constantly glued to cell phones and cell phone

11:29technologies that they now have documented proof by MRI that it stops the development of their frontal lobe. And the frontal lobe for the audience is the area of your brain up here behind your forehead where you have impulse control and inhibition and also emotions. And they've actually seen the in functional MRIs where it doesn't function as well. And also the amount of actual tissue is underdeveloped because of the constant exposure to the EMFs. What it's the is that are they are there certain devices that have stronger EMFs that everyone should aboard, but particularly children should try to avoid. That's a great question. And what is subject? I mean, my goodness. That is so true. And you think about it. And most people will say it'll be from the blue light. Well, that might be part of it. But the other there's two other components. There's the wireless signals that it's emitting that mess with us. And then you have

12:31the third component is the facial recognition, which I spoke on at the Healing for the Ages, Dr. Brian Arris's conference. And you have 30,000 laser dots directly at you the whole time the screens pointed at your face. It doesn't turn off when the phone and the device turns on. So they're getting radiated at a certain level. And yes, when you don't have blood-blank brain barrier fully developed, you're going to start to see more of those developmental challenges because it's going to dehydrate your fascia. It's going to mess with your pineal gland. It's going to calcify it, disconnect you from God. You don't get in a deeper sleep. It's going to have create a lot of eye challenges, macular degeneration, earlier than we've ever seen dry eyes, cataracts. The list goes on and on with this stuff. So you're literally having a direct and energy weapon pointed at you. So obviously less strength of a phone like a 4G phone would be better turn off facial recognition always on that and never have it. And then keep it further away

13:36from you would be some of the answers to that. But there's no reason a 5-year-old should be on a device like that that close to them at all, nor having if it's a laptop and putting it over the reproductive organ. So which is like a double hit because you get it over their lap and then you get it directed at their face because that's where the battery is over the reproductive organ. So there's this is a loaded topic that we're going to keep the population replenishing and keep them healthy by creating proximity protocols with this usage and avoidance protocols as well. What about you know I've seen people I've done interviews with people and I have friends that wear those yellow orange glasses all the time when they're in front of computers. What do those do and how do they help? So those would be considered blue-like blockers. So when people talk about that they're looking for their eyes literally to get in a circadian rhythm with day and

14:37night. And if these really bright EMFs and the lights from bright white and blue light from the LEDs and the computers on the screens they mess with your circadian rhythm. They'll keep you up for several hours longer. If you're watching a TV and you're supposed to go to bed at 10 o'clock you end up getting in a deeper sleep not until you know one or two o'clock. They just it messes with your circadian rhythm, your natural regulation of one day and night is and when you're that internal clock of your body should start to sleep. And so those are really helpful for I like to use them at night if I'm using any screen time because it keeps my body into that rhythm. So when I hit the pillow I'm out right away. I don't have to worry about not getting into that deeper sleep state right away because of the lighting in my environment. You know again I think that some people must be more sensitive to it than others because

15:42it doesn't bother me and I've got a set of those yellow glasses and I wear them and everything is so bright it's super annoying and when I take them off it's like I have a really hard time adjusting to just ambient light. It's it and I am on my phone until I put on my alarm and go to sleep and it takes me literally 10 minutes to fall asleep and my sleep tracker shows me that I go into deep sleep for the first two hours of my sleep. So is it really true that it affects everybody the same and is that why government officials say it's really like nonsense because it really doesn't help because they're only looking at the small subset of us like me. Yeah seem to affect. No definitely I mean I think everyone is affected differently for sure and different levels the ages predispositions to it all that will near your own health how how full your body is full of toxicity and how much more of a conductor you are there's so many different reasons why more

16:47some people would be more susceptible than others. So yeah it's it's definitely a loaded question because I think it was 1996 our government set procedural levels of what's safe and not safe and what they determine it was is if something is ionizing that's when it creates a thermal effect like a microwave oven would do it'll oscillate yourselves and raise your temperature and they're like oh that's too much but if something is non ionizing then our bodies can assimilate it and absorb and you know deal with it at a level that what they say doesn't break down but what they're missing is is since the late 1990s so much has changed in technology it's gotten faster stronger closer more prolific and wearables have come into play and they're not taking into consideration all that and then plus they've they've missed out on you know some of Dr. Martin Paul's work which

17:49talk about just your your they call it the voltage gated calcium channels those are four big words for the gateway for yourselves to derive energy and those are disrupted there's extra calcium enters in there and it causes oxidative stress and and it it it's just a challenge for your body so even low-level EMFs cause that vibration that affect our body and I think the book that categorizes if the best is the invisible rainbow by Arthur Firstenberg and and he talks about everything on that bar graph has gone up since we put electricity under a homes cancer suicide diabetes Alzheimer's cardiovascular disease and infertility they've all gone up and the one common thread has been low-level EMF from electricity and we call them homes but they're really electrical boxes you know you make a distinction between native EMFs in nature and non-native EMFs what is the

18:56difference and how do they differ yeah so backing up let's let's talk a little bit about physics because I love this because we can simplify this in the most common way that everyone will understand and then share it with everyone so we can all start to understand our relationship with with non-native EMF so again we're built on waves that distribute equally in every direction non-native waveforms we call them these scalar waves they are the framework for our entire universe and every living organism on it so we have an energy field in our body it's called a bio field you can see it through a curly and photography show you colors our pictures through color and it's incredible our colors our shocker colors have the exact same order and color and spectrum as a rainbow so we're just so one with nature and these waveforms distribute equally in every direction you know during the whole pandemic they didn't say stay six to feet

20:02away from someone's six eight feet away from someone's right ear and a straight line out there no it's a it's all around us we have this resonance all around us and another great example for the earth is when I drop a pebble into a pond the resonance of the the waveforms go out in a circular direction in every direction so why don't they go in a straight line well that's just not how our universe is made they're it's unpolarized same with the light I I have a window right in front of me you can see all the light behind it it's waves that are unpolarized they distribute equally in every direction now to the contrary all non-natives dr. T are one directional they're manufactured they're modified they're one directional or they don't work so electricity dirty electricity wireless signals it doesn't matter if it's AC or DC current it's still one directional now I know we rev more on a DC line but there's still it's going in a one directional

21:09waveform and especially alternating currents they're one there but they're coming back the other direction so it's it's the it's not the shape of it it's the direction that the field is going that determines that they're one directional waveforms and a prime example would be a cell tower panel you have panels facing every direction that's because they're one directional waveforms I already mentioned another one a cell phone it's a directed energy weapon the facial recognition on it it's directed right at your face you turn the phone away from you it can't read your face it has to be pointed at you one directional waveform so super simple concept to understand the difference between how we're made and how they are what is going out in the nature and being getting grounded you know people talk about grounding a lot you know means walking out in the morning except I live in Cleveland Ohio and so walking out in the morning barefoot when there's six inches

22:09of snow on the ground is probably not is probably ill advised but in the summer in the spring when the ground is moist in the morning and you've got a nice glowy warm sun rise it's coming up they talk about grounding and taking your shoes off and walking on the earth on the grass on the if you live by the water on the sand how does that help us coexist with all of these radio frequencies that are blowing around us all the time well thank you for asking because that is the one thing that is the answer to all of this radiation in our environment is to get grounded by nature and the reason is is because we pull electrons from the earth and it supports our electron transfer chain which gives us energy it literally grounds us out when we're touching the earth or we're in nature and it's just clearing our body battery of any stuck EMF outside in our field and then internally as well and we can get that resonance from nature in a lot of different ways we

23:12get it from the earth obviously we get it from the sun and the unpolarized light of the sun that distributes equally in every direction doctor Zach Bush talks about us getting from the air breathing in your microbiome breathing in your vial and we get those ions from charged particles because in the air it's our environment is waves or particles it's air it's ether plasma that waves and particles travel through it so we can get that from the air and then hopefully we get it from our food when we're taking in your great supplements that you sell and you know for the micronutrients and and macronutrients and all the good foods that we get and then the last part dr. T is we get that conductivity at all from the water so when we're missing any one of those five elements our body battery gets discharged and depolarized and that light switch goes off and then we become a gateway for dis-ease to happen so getting grounded by nature is the actual

24:16answer period that's how we learn to coexist with this stuff we have to get more towards getting into nature and when you're in a cold area like Ohio during the winter time it's tough to get grounded and be outside as much as I'm in southern California I literally was out the beach all day Saturday and Sunday I went free diving I went for a stand-up paddle I played beach volleyball I was literally in the sun it was like 80 degrees here and then I was in the water for probably at least an hour each day like getting grounded so our environments are totally different so I get a lot of the grounding so for the colder climates you can actually you know touch a tree touch a leaf just get that resonance going obviously our grounding bags are the answer for being inside the EMF rocks grounding bags for being inside that have that same resonance because they're hand-mind crystals but there are ways where colder climates can still get that a little bit of light on you and then touch trees or or something that you have direct contact with you that you can get grounded

25:22well I think that sounds like a good solution you know we're coming into spring here and all the snows melted here in Cleveland and right now this week it's supposed to be rainy but it's it's warming up it's one of the ring things I have to say that I you know I love living in Ohio I love the four seasons I love I really love the four seasons my least favorite month of the year is March because such a tease you know you warm up you think you're gonna get an early spring and then you get a snowstorm and then you warm stuff you think it's early spring you get a snowstorm but right now it is a little bit warmer so I like the idea of going out and even just touching a tree to get into nature that sounds really good well this is a really good break for a place for us Nick to take a quick break to hear from our sponsors so hold that thought we're gonna hear from our sponsors of america out loud dot news america out loud radio plays the 10 penny files on the i heart radio network daily Monday through Friday at 3 p.m. Eastern you can also listen anywhere in the world if you go to america out loud dot news and click on to their media player

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32:43system cut down on your grocery bill and save twenty percent on your first order welcome back everyone today we're having a conversation with dr. Justin franson about his unique technology to protect you from all this e-m-e's e-m-f stuff we've talked about the first part of the show called e-m-f rocks let me tell you first a little bit more about doctor Justin franson he is a certified natural pathic doctor and athleticism performance coach he founded athleticism dot com almost 30 years ago to work with amateur and professional athletes on nerves and fascia to improve their conditions he watched their health break from wearables and technologies and that's what got him into looking into e-m-f's and then he founded e-m-f rocks dot com and grounding bags the grounding bags literally look like a bag of rocks they are the industry leader in the natural e-m-f protection they also help people sleep up to 60 percent deeper

33:50Justin welcome back to the show now that we've talked about e-m-f's what they are natural ones and we've talked about synthetic ones and feel all the electricity and all about grounding that we can do tell us about e-m-f rocks how did you come up with this and are they literally just rocks are they something that you have created oh thanks dr. t yes they are hand mind crystals they are one of a kind each bag is one of a kind and they're about one pound of crystals now the difference between our crystals and some of the other crystals people know about frame of protection like shung guide or amethyst or black journaling is that ours have the exact same chemical makeup that we have they have electromagnetic products properties in them and they have about 74 percent moisture content in them so that's why we have to keep them sealed we deploy them in inside of a few different bags and you use it

34:51in this bag use it as is and keep it sealed there's no need to open it because when you open it they'll oxidize and they'll dry out quicker but we're the first to bring a natural e-m-f protection product of nature's resonance to your home to create coherence and then we've established protocols for how to use it so at least one bag on your bed desk car seat and then multiple bags for your home as well and so it's a really simple concept that everyone else in the field of e-m-f protection they're all attempting to replicate what nature does and what we already have they're trying to make a scale wave and embed it into a pen and sticker a metal plate and and create coherence for you no one does it better than nature so we just went out and found the right source for it and are bringing it to you for your safety and and allow

35:53you to sleep about 60 percent deeper so are these mined rocks I mean do you get them from a a mined source or can I just walk down the beach somewhere and pick up a bunch of rocks and put them in a bag what's the thing? No they're special mined crystals from a unique special source and they're called colloidal crystals they've been compressed from volcanic and underground water sources where they have moisture and magnetic properties just like we do so it's a specific beautiful pink crystal that has properties that are that are unbelievably medicinal for e-m-f protection for us like literally when you bring them in your environment and you go through the tapping protocols you'll up to 10 times increase your amount of energy 10 times the amount just through the tapping your deep sleep will improve up to 60 percent and these are tests that we've done from third parties with doctors and you could track it on your wearable tech too

36:56so everyone goes home and then they test it on their own and that's where the the market spoken because we're one of the leading natural e-m-f protection provider sold through doctor clinics from nature's residents and you tell us where their mind I mean even as maybe like us versus other countries where we probably don't want to give away your source but where do you where did you find how did you find this mine and what at least what country is it in yes for sure we don't disclose specific areas but we do say it's in the western us we hand mine our crystals in the western us and the the way I found out about it was another doctor was using them another there's a chiropractor using them to test and muscle test and test his patients and and I am a new poor peach I would go into homes and meter homes and and identify the stressors the invisible stressors through e-m-f meters and then I was using a different product when I first started

38:01and so I developed a reputation and name to help people with e-m-f protection as the signals kept increasing and so I had people call me from all around and one doctor called and said hey Justin I have I have these products what are you what are you doing for e-m-f protection let's let's kind of show each other what we have his ended up being way better than what I was using and so but he was retiring at the tail end of his career and so I asked him for the source and and he offered it up and and so I was the one that bring him to the market and with his permission and and here we are so do these rocks do they repel e-m-f's or do they absorb them to keep them from I mean if you said if they if there was a sponge around you do they absorb them from getting into you or do they repel them away from you I feel it's a little of both you know either there's the thermal dynamics and the paesial electric effect like you you have this

39:04and our bodies act like a capacitor where we're admitting and absorbing and I feel nature does the same thing and so if you're walking barefoot does it absorb it or does it you know clear it or change it like what does it do it's the same question and I feel it's a little of both I feel that it changes your energy field because when we do which is really fun I don't know if I got to show you at the conference but we have a curling photography photography app so I could take a picture of your aura and then we can have you pull the bag and even tap on the bag and then retake a picture or and your aura will turn purple it'll get like really really connected to God it changes right away so we're it's a two tiered effect I believe is it's clearing your energy field which I feel is a second way to ground that I have electro engineers that I arm wrestle over this topic and they're they're so one dimensional when it comes to electricity but our universe isn't

40:10like that so I feel there's two different ways to ground I feel you can directly you know connect to it and and touch it but then I also feel there's a grounding effect like I shared with how our body is absorbed more energy through just our waveforms in our environment and and we see it I see it in that effect when we test your sleep where I keep saying 60% deeper sleep well what happens doctor T is when you're sleeping your brain goes into a delta or theta brainway state to get into the lowest and slowest brainway state possible and that let me quantify it in a wave per second so we're all on the same page so a delta theta what that means is your brainway state is in a really low and slow brainwave cycle between one or below one to eight hurts or waves per second so when we're sleeping and we have Wi-Fi on us that disrupts that brainway state and it takes us

41:15out of it so we don't get into the deeper brainwave states and so we go on what we call a twilight sleep so you don't get that deeper sort of sleep when you have the grounding bags in your environment it creates coherence for you and it's the same with our athletes when they're in the flow state everything I do with athleticism when I'm not treating concussions or treating injuries and doing nerve and fascia work is to get them in the flow state to get them in that eight to 12 hurts or waves per second and that's where we use Dr. Patrick Porter's brain tap and hit one of his first ones was mind spa I don't know if you recall one of his first early ones was mind spa we were using that with professional athletes almost 30 years ago so I was always working on getting people into that low and slow brainway state now why is that so important because what is 4G 4G is 4 gigahertz so 4 gigahertz is that that's those are that's 2.45 billion waves per second

42:17a gigahertz is a billion wave per second a megahertz is a million waves per second so 4G is the lowest bandwidth of a polarizing one directional waveform that's 10 zeros faster than how we sleep revenue optimize 4.2.45 gigahertz that's the lowest bandwidth that destructures water in our body now 5G is 16 and 90 gigahertz 16 and 90 billion waves per second and telecoms allowed to go up to 300 billion waves per second they're allowed to go up to 300 gigahertz we're at 1 to 8 when we sleep 1 to 12 when we're optimizing for performance there is a massive over 12 you know 10 zero delta on up of a polarizing one directional waveform in our bio field and that's why it's so important to understand you know you talk about that there's different types of EMFs that we should avoid like electric cars and smart meters and some

43:20of the wearable tech now one of the wearable techs that we advocate for and I have personal experience with that has really helped my body is the wave watch right he's a really great frequencies and there's a bunch of them to I think there's like 1800 or something different ones to pick from and they have there are certain things that I that they it has really helped me with and we really we had a special deal going we still advocate for them they're affiliate for us if you used your your your your rocks at the same time as you were wearing something like a helpful EMF technology with that interfere with it it actually enhances it you're going to get better result it cleans up their signal strength so I'm a huge advocate of right machines and those types of products for short durations for EMF protection there's no way like it's a futile effort to have something that emits a frequency to overpower the other frequencies that are emitted only nature can handle that but when you're doing right machines or sound beds or

44:24that those types of frequency machines or wearables for short durations they're incredibly beneficial but when you put in and when you put our grounding bags on you or in your environment while you're using them it cleans up that signal in the way I know that to be true is we had early on I had a call of a guy that had an office adjacent to a cell tower and he had a he had a landline his landland was full static we loaded him up with grounding bags it cleaned up the landline because it cleaned up the coherence from the tower that was directly across the street from him so it just it cleans up frequencies and signal strength so no matter what you're using PMF sound beds I use bioharmonic technologies Dr. Stephen Schwartz the sound bed I have Paul center as well I have a beamer I we have a ton of different I use Patrick Porter's brain tap we use all these different products with that have electricity in them but I always use them with our

45:27grounding bags because they create more coherence for you and they clean up those signal strengths wow that's that's really great news to hear about that because there are a lot of a lot of things that are their frequency devices you mentioned PMF and other things that are healing frequencies that they're not dirty frequencies like the other EMFs would be you mentioned a couple of times about testing EMFs if someone listening to this wants to test their home what type of meter should they get and how should they use it great the first one I love the most is go to stetsurelectric.com and Dave Stetser is huge in this space and dirty electricity you can get a plug-in meter and you can see the health of how the healthy wiring your home is how healthy the wiring in your home is like just by plugging that meter in it should be probably about 100 or below on the they call a GSU and its grant stetsur units and that measures amps to volt so get a steturelectric meter there about 150 bucks you can also get it on other

46:31you know online stores as well but that's an easy one people love miligoss meters for electricity I know this so this is another thing is you mentioned your frontal cortex being affected with those kids in that child study well what I've identified with athletes is the is the other side of the brain the cerebellum is affected from EMFs and we've seen it with the San Francisco 49ers they're the most injured team in the NFL and their practice arena is adjacent to a massively upgraded substation electrical substation and their levels of EMF on the farthest point away from that are are about nine miligoss constantly which is nine times the allowable level of what a miligoss meter would read so any simple miligoss meter will show that but the to go back to the athlete real quick the cerebellum you can't have mechanics without neurology you can't have immunology without neurology

47:37neurology is first so if there's a disconnect from your cellarbellum to the endpoint they're seeing a lot of Achilles tears about seven of them that is a disconnect there's a gap delay response your anterior tip you'll have you know too much you know flexion and then not enough extension and there's a gap when you go to move that's a mechanical challenge from a neurological gap in your cerebellum to the mechanics to the endpoint of what you're moving so we not only see it with a front with the kids but even if the strongest fittest professional athletes we're seeing it in that level as well so a miligoss meter is one to get then you can get and then we have the jury electricity meter and then you can get like a tri-field or a corned or one directional antenna based acoustic meter which is a wireless meter and there's so many of them out there safe living technologies is another one they're all great but I love the ones

48:40that have a they're one directional they have an antenna so when you point it out of phone the things start screaming and the sounds that the meter makes is the sounds that the phones emitting that our nervous system hears that most humans don't have the bandwidth to hear but it's still affecting our neurology of our body it's it this is noise pollution Dr. T at the craziest level then when you point it away it drops that that down and you don't you don't hear the noise then you point it back at the phone and that's where I showed you know my daughter that I'm like hey this device you're holding this isn't some security blanket that you want next to you this is a energy weapon like this isn't great for you and so now there's usage protocols for her that she's yeah really it holds true to and that's those are the meters are great ways for people to understand that you know I was listening to in preparation for another conversation I'm having later this week I was listening to a senate hearing about exposures of kids to to EMFs and how much time that

49:45they're spending on laptops and um um desktops and their cell phones and it supports to eight hours a day constant you know and they were talking about they're the panelists that were on that at that at that at that hearing we're all talking about the detrimental effects of all of this and now that they've got them in schools and you know kids you know they're learning their lessons on them and they have to do homework on them and it's just a constant that they're constantly in front of some sort of a screen time and they were talking about eight to 12 hours a day that these kids are sitting you know in front of a screen not looking at anything else and the detrimental effects and they're you know so they are taking some steps to at least acknowledge the problem which is the first step of the solution right you have to acknowledge that that this really is causing a problem before you can find a way to mitigate it or to cause a solution where can people get your grounding bags because we don't want to end the show here today we've got about five minutes

50:50left for them to know where they can find you and get these grounding bags and how many should they get for their house and how should they use them yeah definitely thank you EMF rocks.com is a really great spot and that yeah we we have all of our curated health products on athleticism.com spelled athletic and then ISM.com but EMF rocks is where most people will get the grounding bags and you we have a full size for your bed desk or car seat you need five per two thousand square feet of a home you need seven if you have solar on the home seven if you drive an electric car and so that's how long did if you get a bag how long do they well let me rephrase that do you need to replace them and if so how often yes they do there is a lifespan on there two to three year lifespan so they until or shorter if you're have them extreme heat you might get a little more

51:51out of them if you keep them in a cool cooler climate but when the moisture expires they'll turn more from pink to white inside and then it's time to replace them so two to three years is the time you can recharge them every one to four months by putting them just outside in the lawn in the shade just place them on the ground that'll give them about five percent more for you and we see it in the sleep the sleep you'll get five percent deeper sleep when you re ground them every so often the minis should be grounded more like maybe twice a month because they're a smaller amount there for a pocket for I put them in my carry my pocket well women carried in the purse and the kids will carry it in a backpack for on-the-go protection so you don't need the stickers of the pendants or stuff on the devices you you this is a something you carry it's a product that you would carry with you or just place you know on your desk or car seat or at the head of your bed to get into that coherence with your environment do you have to keep them

52:53in the bag all the time or yes please do there's no need to open it they're ready to go it's just the amount of how much of nature's resonance in your home will create the coherence so again at least seven if you drive an electric car at least seven if you have solar five per bed per per home and then at least one per bed desk or car seat and so it adds up but you know potentially but you can step up budget allowing which is fantastic as well so if they're in the bag how do you know the change of color well you you could take a look at them every so often and see when you get them open them up we we hot seal them there they're in our inner brown bag that's hot sealed with a window so you can see the crystals of them so that inner brown bag is hot sealed you never take them out you can just see them through there and then we put them in a silver static bag which actually amplifies the the frequency of it and then it doubles seals it to preserve them for

53:53longer and then they're in that that decorative cloth the muslin bag the that you see in the you know on the camera so if they're they're deployed to last as long as we can preserve them but if they go in the wash or they're getting a really hot sun or we keep them in a really hot car for too long they'll expire a lot quicker so when I put them out in the sun to recharge them do I keep them in the take them out of the muslin bag and you know you just do you put them you actually put them outside in the shade on the lawn so not directly in the sun and that's what will recharge them you don't need the sunlight directly on them because we want to keep them from drying out we just need the nature's resonance on them to help clear them well this has been a fabulous conversation Justin thank you so sweet I appreciate it and really important and informative about the EMFs and to get for even those that know a lot about EMFs it was a re-education and getting

54:53that back on our radar screen but these rocks are really something special and I took notes because all of these notes were you talked about where they will be the EMF rocks and that will be in the show notes so they'll be down below and we'll be able to get your additional materials from your website from the EMF rocks website but this is pretty cool this is like it's such a a cool way to keep you safe without without a lot of technologies so I really want to thank you so much we've got one minute left one minute left in the show before I have to close it out in one minute what are your closing comments today well first off this is the number one stressor we're dealing with it we've showed it for over 140 years since we put electricity in our homes and it keeps getting stronger and stronger with satellites and electricity cars and wearables so get grounded by nature because it's your nature and because this is a book talk to I did write a couple books I wrote one on EMF called grounded by nature and that kind of goes over everything we spoke about on this conversation

55:59and then for all the athletes out there the athleticism is my other book that I wrote so but just just get outside in the nature it's free go touch a tree hug a tree get into bodies of water get your body you know out into nature and then when you're in in home in in your home get your bedrooms to the residents as low and as slow and as close to nature as you possibly can get and get get in that coherence and the rhythm with nature so we turn the electricity off in our bedrooms at night and then of course we use the grounding bags for even more coherence so get grounded by nature that's your nature so with that we got to cut this really short because we're over time so Justin thank you so much for being with us today all of our listeners being here with us today we will see you here tomorrow or the next time on the 10 penny files right here at americaoutloud.news and i heart radio have a great day everybody goodbye and good bye