Hour 5: Lance Reisland + Browns Groundbreaking Ceremony

0:00And this is the best ground breaking ceremony ever. That's a tweet from Zach Jackson. I he could also be being sarcastic because that is a known to be a bit sarcastic sugar. Have you seen the video? I we've all seen Schwessinger. Obviously, we've seen the video the Browns put out like five minutes ago of Schwessinger talking. No. Tell me he doesn't go look at it. Tell me he's not like a doppelganger for Matt Karali. They will go a lot right here because he's got like they he's got a different hairstyle than when he had last year, not that different, but it's a Karali hairstyle. Karali wishes he looked like that. You see this? He was just like Karali. They're blonde and white. I don't see. Same nose, same nose, very fair skin, same hair color. That's the same person. They don't look anything. Karali wishes he had that jawline. I'd I'd Karali wishes he had the jawline. It's a nice shape. Karali is a bad looking guy. I didn't say that. I'm saying. He's a pretty good looking guy. Pretty good looking guy. I think Carson Swessinger is on a different plane of existence. Carson Swessinger looks like Ken.

1:03Like a Ken doll, is what you mean? Yeah. When you said Ken, I thought you meant Ken Carmen for a second. I said, no. Clearly, I just got the hots for Ken. You really think I really can. Everyone knows why throw shots all the time. That's. I'm Negan Ken. That's fantastic. Yeah. All right, we should probably put a pen in it there. Why don't we do more of the, you never mind. We don't need to do more of those. That's fine. More of who looks like who? No, no, no, not those. Not those. All those Barbie jokes that involved Ken at some point. And there was so many, there was so many of them. And we just don't do any of them. It's probably for the best. I would think this looks 100% like Karali. I think you're blind. I think you're, I don't know what you are, but it's not working. Are that being said? Let's head out to the making right. Call Kyle Wright Hotline. No transition at all. No. And welcome in Lance Ryze, Lynn Cleveland.com, 92-3, the fan, Sup Coach. What's going on, guys? How are you today? Doing very well. How about you, Sal? That's good. I'm hanging in there. Absolutely.

2:03Good day. I mean, groundbreaking day, right? I don't know what that means, but that's what date is. So it's where they're breaking ground on a new stadium, coach. I mean, I know what it is. I guess you don't understand why it's a thing, I guess. Well, because they got a break ground on it. They got to, they got to pat each other on the back. I mean, they did it months ago, though. He was what we thought. No, that was a fake one. That was the one. Yeah, that was, they were just moving stuff around. This is when they're really breaking ground. We played pre-season football for a reason, coach. That was, that was like their version of pre-season football. OK, that's fair. This is when the games count. So Nick wanted to yell at you in a way that I did yesterday, but he wanted to do it, I think, in a more intense version. I'm not sure. He got pretty intense with us anyway yesterday. No, I just don't know. Coach, why are you entertaining the idea that Dishon Watson should be anywhere near the field for this year? The point being is that everything that's happened up to this point doesn't matter. I disagree. And, you know, I disagree, too. And here, as we discussed yesterday, I understand that.

3:04But here's the thing, when you bring a new guy in, those things matter. The injuries I will give you, there's an injury factor there. But if, you know, and JP was talking about, you know, some of the things with, like, agendas with those guys and politics, all those things, those things matter. If Munkin truly is in charge and he has more pool, and is not a puppet, like Kevin was, or everybody thought he was, or whatever you want to say, then he's going to play the back guy. That's my words. That's my, yeah. And if you want to, and if you look at, if you look at the quarterback situation right now, it means nothing. But to say he's in charge, to say that Dishon is in front, that makes a ton of sense to me right now. It's early on, it's three practices. We haven't seen the meetings. We haven't seen the film breakdown. We had the film breakdowns when they were in film room. We haven't seen any of that. And to say that a guy who's been in the league almost 10 years, probably knows a little bit more, because really the three practices met nothing, but the install mentally, that makes a lot of sense to me, that tells me they're kind of going about it right. There's going to be a lot of time to make plays. There's going to be a lot of time to decide who the number

4:05and quarterback is. But to say that he has no chance, and we know exactly what we're going to get from him, I don't agree with that, because all the things that happen. Now, injury wise, I'm on board with, it's hard to stay healthy and he's had some injuries issues. But we don't know if he's going to be any good. We have no idea. And we can't maybe look at the last six years and go, let's inform our opinions that he might just think. Yeah. Sure, absolutely. And I think with health and an offense that fits more of his skill set, being able to make plays with guys in space, I think you can argue that he could have some success as well. I also, it really is not about to Sean for me to point it out. And I said that yesterday, it's about the best guy playing. And it's not about anything else than the best guy. And if it's Shador, great. If it's to Sean, great. I want the guys who practice. And the argument is, we know what we're going to get. I've heard everybody say, well, we know he's going to be really good in practice. We know he's going to be really good in 7 on 7. That's where you decide stuff. In the NFL, you don't get to be a gamer. You've got to go out and practice well.

5:06And if that's the case, then that'll be the next step for Shador. He'll go out there, because he seems like a pretty competitive kid, and he'll practice better. And once again, though, I thought he did a great job when he got his opportunity last year. And I look forward to seeing him doing that this year. If he can't be watching out, I want to win week one. I'm not worried about 2027. I'm not worried about week six. I'm worried about week one. And if watching the guy week one, I'm going to watch him. So here's what I want to ask you, because I thought a lot about this. I genuinely want to lean on your expertise here, because you know this world. You're very good at this. I trust you. When I wasn't able to convey in the best of ways yesterday, although I thought I made a lot of good points, the idea that I'm going to do golf with you, because you're a golfer. I'm a golfer. People out there listening are golfers right now. Coach, there are a lot of golfers that on the driving range can absolutely stripe the ball. And then the moment they step up to when the actual game counts, when you're scoring and you're playing your 18, it's a completely different story. When you've been there, I've been there, I'm sure, where you're like, all right, I'm great on the range. I can't make it translate. What do the Browns do with the idea that I'm convinced

6:08to Sean Watson's the football version of that? He has fantastic in practices. Always has been always will be him. He'll look like the better quarterback in these practices. The hard part he's having, something's not translating to the games. And whether that's mental, whether you tell me what that is, but there's something that isn't clicking for Dishon, where you can look so awesome in these practices always. And then you get to the games and all of a sudden his driver's slice in 200 yards of the right. Well, you know, obviously it depends on what course you're playing, right? So if you're playing easy course, it's open when you slice it, you get away with it. There's a lot of variables, right? And I think he's had a lot of variables, including himself. He has not played at the level he did. And whatever that is, I don't know. My initial camp, my initial thoughts on the first day, which mean absolutely nothing, but I thought he looked healthy. And that was my point with the first day. I thought he looked healthy and fit, which gives him a chance to be successful because he seems like he's in great shape. This football work is very good. So with Shador, they both looked really outstanding in my opinion, fit wise. And you can tell they've been working on their stuff. Now the translation, that makes a ton of sense,

7:08but that doesn't, that's assuming, you know, Munkin had been here for, if it was Kevin Safansky, I would say, yeah, he's had, he's done this, been there. Munkin doesn't care about that. Munkin is simply saying, hey, I'm going to play the best guy right now. What has happened in the past does not matter. Now, if we get to the point where he's great in practice and can't carry it over to the game, then Shador's got to be right there with him in practice and saying, all right, even though Watson's been better in practice, so is Shador. Now we got to make that move. And I think you go with the idea that Munkin's not looking back at all, and nor should I, I don't think he should. And you're right, you know, Nick, when you say, well, you can form some opinions, I agree with that. There has been some injuries, and there's been some play issues, but there's also been some offensive line issues. There's, once again, him as well, but there's been other variables, and the line, the receivers, et cetera, all that kind of stuff, the coaching, the system, whatever it is, the idea of it's a new look, new offense gives him a chance because he's good at making plays, and this is what this offense is.

8:08It's a space, you know, it's a pace and space kind of offense, and I'm interested to see what he does, but I don't really care if it's him or, you know, Shador, I just want the best guy to play, and hopefully they push each other. All right, coach, how many wins do you think the Browns added this off season? If there were a five-win team last year, how many wins ahead do you think they are right now? Well, you guys always ask me this question. It's a hard one for me, because I think you can win them all, and I truly believe that. I know you guys know that with me now. I truly believe you can win them all. Do I always ask this question, coach? Are we asking win-moss questions too much? No, no, I bring it up with the burger bet. That's my fault. I bring it up with the burger bet. I'm gonna count it down a minute there. I kind of know it, I like that. Yeah. That's good burger, by the way, coach. That was a top shelf you did deliver. A lot of people have paid off burger. You delivered better than anyone. Well, I appreciate that. You got to own it when you lose, right? That's kind of my thing. So I own it. No, that's a John Phantom.

9:09You're never seeing that burger. He gets never. So I would say this. I would say they've been, so defensively, there's a chance they take a step back, but not for long, because everybody's older, everybody's in this root and bird guy. I love his mentality. He's a defensive coordinator. You can just tell he likes what he does. They're gonna be fine, because they have great players on that side. And two of the guys are gonna be older, Graham and Swellsinger are gonna be older. This is gonna be a really good defense. So they won five last year, and they obviously they have, I think they've doubled their wins. I think they go to 10 wins. I really do. Because of the fact they have the fourth place schedule, they could have won seven, not they should have. They could have won games last year with special teams in offense if they had just a little bit. And for me, you're gonna see complimentary football. And what complimentary football allows this defense to do is be elite, because they're gonna have some leads maybe, and then they could turn it loose, and they don't have to make all the plays. And part of being in elite defenses that you have two other phases that don't cost you. They don't have to be dominant, but they can't cost you.

10:10And that's what I think the offense and special teams did last year, they cost that defense. So I'll say with that schedule, I'm gonna say they double it. I'm gonna say they go, I'm gonna say 10 wins. All right, so add you to the list. I'm re-hunted 10 wins. Mack at 12, coach Riz at 10. You need to get him on a burger bed, because you already got, you already got Mack snaked into a good burger bed here. 10 can happen. I, when I loved about 12, I would take a burger bed with 12 wins with any team in the league that anybody mentions. That's the thing about 12 bills. Yeah, if you want a burger bed on the bills, winning 12 games, I'll take that right now. With any team you mentioned, I'll take a 12 game burger bed on. 10 game, different story. Coach, Coach, you want to send about the right price for you? I want you guys to burger bed. I don't want to burger bed. All right. Sounds like you want to burger bed. Coach, we've had a lot of discussion this week. I didn't get to ask anything about this yesterday. The people that think that Fano is maybe, maybe not a left tackle and was drafted to be a left tackle, but can't play left tackle

11:10or won't be able to play left tackle at the next level. What would you say to those people? Well, you know, he ran 491. And as impressive as some of these four, two guys, four, three guys, I would argue at 311 pounds, 491 is one of the most impressive things you can do. That big body running at 491, that's incredibly impressive. So his feet are really, really good. And I would say this, as a unit, you want those guys to be an elite unit. Now, obviously, if you take him that high, to get back your whatever the value or whatever everybody talks about, which I don't really understand, you know, obviously taking with the ninth pick, you need that left tackle. But if he had to move inside and be a 10-year starter and maybe in all pro tours, three times and just a really good football player, I think you'd take that. Obviously, they got to answer those questions at left tackle. I think you can play left tackle because first of all, the arm length he's about, one quarter of an inch short. It's not like he's got, you know, he's not T-Rex. He's got long enough arms and his feet make up for it because he's a guy that will be able to cut off the corner with his feet.

12:10And if you watch him on film, the reason he doesn't get beat most of the time is because he's beating the defensive end there. So obviously, he'll have his moments where he's got to work, especially on the strength. But in terms of guys beating him around the corner, I don't think it's going to happen because of that. Now, it'll hurt him is the speed to power, which guys like Miles will give him. These NFL guys will give him. That will be a learning curve for him for sure. But this is a guy with really like feet. And for me, it's all about movement. If you can move at that left tackle, you got a chance to be pretty successful on Sunday. All right, friend, we appreciate you. Didn't really get the fight that I wanted to because I think JP and I both wanted that fight a little bit, but I still appreciate you. I want you to know that. Well, I was, well, what about, you know, I want you to think about, you owe me a burger bet. So think about the number. No, I don't owe you a burger bet. You owe a listen, you don't, you don't, you don't, I mean, I owned it. I owned my part, right? You got a, you got a burger, you lost. That doesn't mean I owe you a rematch. Burger bets come to Nick.

13:11Nick doesn't go to burger. That is true. Oh, that's fair. They got to speak to Nick. Yeah, he really uses that feeling. He hasn't as a loin. Does that mean my loin feeling? And then like once he once that gets gets just kind of like, once it activates, then all of a sudden, he starts to hum. He knows, I really know. That's a burger bet. That's a burger bet. Loin activation is the key for the burger bet. That's right. You got it. That's right. Just activate my loin's coach. I appreciate it. I got it. I appreciate you guys a ton, man. Thank you, coach. He wants to go so bad. The Browns have put out the video. I realize that we're actually digging in the ground so that the 3D rendering of the Browns New Stadium has troughs on the side. Well, almost like planters and they put the dirt in that. Wait, like troughs to go with that? Okay, never mind. Not just kind of troughs, not a more like planters. Okay. And then there's a lot of old Browns fans that would love to bring the troughs back up soon. And they're called perverts. So I'm just kidding. That was fun days.

14:12I just want to see what everybody has. That's when men were men. Is that right? You look another man in the junk. Why you were going number one? So they had him at Riggly. And so that's my experience with them growing up. And yeah, I just remember as a kid, it'd be like incredibly cold. And then you'd go into the troughs. No one looks good in that environment. And we know the troughs, though, would just be everything would be steaming in these bathrooms with the troughs. And you're just like, it's a million degrees in here. And you knew it just with the whole thing was just wrong. And it wreaked because of that. Oh, it just all did. It was not great. And it was just, but it was also the more men were men. You know, that's when sports were sports, as well, I like to say. But it is funny to watch everybody take a scoop full of dirt and then throw it on the browns field that feels like a analogy. Is that what it is? Symbolism, symbolism. Maybe I was thinking like a fake field that they have that they're throwing it on. And then the 3D printed thing. They're in the 3D printed field. Why? I don't know.

15:12I don't know. I don't know what a money of the 3D printed field would be. I don't know. They spent more than you were I making a year on that day. Yeah, why would they do that to the field, this poor field? Can't you just like scoop it and then now what they should do or why boy, but what they will try to do. You're gonna try to sell the dirt, aren't they? Like is Phil dirt or do you think you're gonna get like a little bag of dirt? Like a commemorative, like they'll put in a little coin or something or they'll put it into like a find a way to put it into a football or something? You know, you know, when I covered the World Series, one of the things, one of like the possessions I have is I took dirt from game seven at Progressive. Before the game I went down and I scooped up in field or not in field dirt, the behind-home plate dirt. I scooped that up and then I scooped up some dirt at Riggly before I think it was game four that I did that. Did you snort it? And no, it just dirt. And then so. Still snort dirt. It'd be there with you forever. Quick answer. No, I didn't. No, I didn't snort dirt. But, but. I don't know what you get down to. That is one of the keepsakes that I have. Is the dirt from both World Series games.

16:13And it's one of those things. People love collecting as stupid as it sounds. They love commemorative dirt. Now here's the thing. That's the cell, commemorative dirt. The, it doesn't really look like dirt to me. It looks like sand. Okay. But it also could kind of look like human ashes. Wow. Yeah, I get it's dark, Mac. I didn't put it in the trough. I know it like, you know, my wife is a very, very skilled gardener. So I know what top soil looks like. Yeah. Does not look like top soil. Okay, then. Are you saying somebody would want to be like, maybe buried like on the site? I don't think I'm saying anything other than it looks like human remains. Okay. I didn't put there was a pivot off of that. Ashes. Not, you know, ashes, ashes, ashes. Let's be respectful here. Yeah. I'm not like a haunted football stadium. They already got one. They don't need a second one. That's why we're moving, guys. Yeah. Wouldn't that be wild if one of those one of those like ghost hunter shows

17:14actually went to first energy or hunting in bank and was like, yeah, this way's been haunted for years. No wonder they've sucked this entire time. It's the soul of a thousand dead brown spans trapped in the building. All right. I bet that's a, if if ghosts, I don't know where I fall in the ghost world. I don't. I tend to lean no more than they're on to present there. But like if we had like a ghost hunter go to all the different sports, all the different stadiums across the country, I bet you'd find hundreds of dead people's ashes that are there. And then maybe they probably are ghosts at the, I don't know. But like, you know the amount of people that just, their dream is to just have the ashes spread across Fenway, Yankee Stadium. All these, there's hundreds of thousands that are spread at some of these places. Where would, where would you have your ashes spread? Not at a sports stadium. I'll tell you that. No, no, no, why would I want it at a stadium? Cause you're a gigantic sports fan and work in sports talk. No, no, thank you. I score in Chicago. I see what you're doing. No. Would it be here? No, no. We just walked past the little bile.

18:16Oh, who hasn't cleaned up this dust? Hey, leave Jonathan alone. First time the cleaning company has cleaned in years. They actually get my ashes. There's just little fragments of your bones in there. I don't hate the idea of spreading the ashes in different spots though, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. So you could do a little bit and like all these like, I can aim off like, if I know I'm dying, I can name like 10 different meaningful spots. And then at least can just take them one by one to all the different spots. That's so much work. Yeah, it would also be really putting it on the person who's already breathing your death. It would be like, hey, let's walk through Jonathan's life memorial as well as we do this. I can send her to have her Montana. I can send her to Wichita. I can send her to Houston. All these different places that I lived until I got here. And then we can just find different spots that are memorable in my life. Yeah. One of the places we spread my dad's ashes was San Run Park in Akron. And that was, that was, it was a great spot for us because we lived right down the road from it. We always go walking there. But as a little kid, you know, my mom and dad would go on dates there and they would have, and it was, Vanessa was like, wow, it's so nice that he's, you know, thinking of

19:20this spot. And I was like, that is nice. I'm pretty sure this is where my parents laid together as man and wife. Wow, that's part of why. That's a nice thing. That's why it's so special. I think my dad was thinking back to the boom boom room, but he was about 27 years old. And I don't hate it. Some of his favorite moments. Yeah. Like over there and over there. And we did, what over there? Wink, wink. It's like they always tell you that like when you walk into somebody's house, the amount of places. Oh, yeah. That's not. Yeah. You just don't think about those things. You have an occasion for every room I saw. You just don't, you just don't think about those things. You didn't get to consecrate the whole house. But you're dead instead of doing a house. He just did that park. He defiled the whole park. His picture. He caught every spot in that park. So. So it's your story. My parents met, my dad was a stand-up comedian. My parents met at a rib cook-off. I know. Look at me. Rib cook-off. No. You are. Everything about you is tracked so far. Stand-up comedian. Rib cook-off. It's adding up. The best thing is, I knew from a very early age.

20:21My mom saw him on stage, thought, oh, this hot man. And a comedy show. This is like different than like, hey, he was the singer. And I saw him from, like, that's an easy trope. No one's ever like the comedian on stage had me roll it. The best part is, there's a dumpster out back that they really got to know each other. And. Oh, no. How do you know this story? This is not the story you should know. I get the fact that I know this story. You should not know this story. You should not know this story. From a very young age. I know. Like, the first set, like, the one they've done. Oh, they met on? Yeah. Wambam, thank you, ma'am. Wow. What a move by your dad. Must have got to tell you something he liked, though, because he kept coming back. 30 years. Is that you or the rib cook-off? It's just winter. Oh. 30 years. Ready cook-off boating. Tremendous. A lot of years. Really great years. They had the best juice. The best juice. Oh, okay. I have a lot of commentary after that, but I'm not going to do any other. Yeah, probably. We're both.

21:22Must be a space for sauce. We're both this. I'm not going to do any of that. It's a glaze. And a great rub. Well, I don't think it's stopped there. Um, is it a failure if the Browns don't get a Super Bowl in the new Donk? Not a failure, but Goodell is very, very upfront about this. He doesn't think we have the infrastructure. Yes. Like, this is supposed to be the time where he's like, and I'm giving you 2035. And if everyone goes crazy, and it's awesome. And instead, he's like, yeah, you guys are going to show me that you have enough hotels. Yeah. You got to show me that you have more to do and to show that this is going to be an actual good Super Bowl if we have it. Who is that on? Is it on the Haslamps? I know. Well, is it on Brook Park? Brook Park. We guys start getting those little monopoly hotels going up. It's one of the weirdest things I think I've ever heard because literally there hasn't been a new stadium that hasn't gotten a new Super Bowl and how long? Like, that's the deal. You build a new stadium. You get the Super Bowl as the congratulations. And it encourages more new stadiums and more money being funneled to the NFL in the process.

22:25And it's just, it's just, this is, this not going this way today is very interesting. I think we will get one one day, but Adele, speaking the way he did, it was just weird. I mean, there was a whole village in Russia during the one Olympics that they just built like a hunt. And it was on a hundred. It was like, it was like 30 hotels, cheaply too. Try it every day. Basically made every year. At the Olympics that we've had for the past like 35 years have all done the same thing. They build out these massive villages that by the way, no one uses after they're done and spend hundreds of millions of dollars in the process. Yep. Oh, so you think for the Super Bowl that we do get, we could just build like an Olympic village. Yes. Free condoms for everyone just like in the Olympics. No, no, they charge for it. Just got to pay for the hotels afterwards, naturally. Right, naturally. It's $5 a pop there. So to speak. Meanwhile, you'll be putting your house on Airbnb in the process. If you're staying in Wadsworth for a Super Bowl in Brook Park, it's only $50,000 and we can take it work. Yeah. When all the different events were coming and I was living downtown, we did think about that.

23:27We thought about like putting it up on Airbnb for the weekend because we were right downtown. And it would have been very easy. And the end of the day we were just like, no, that's okay. We don't need to do this. And we also thought about that in Charlotte for like a multitude of events that they had that were huge national events. We actually had neighbors that did it. And we realized that's a pain. Yeah. It was also where were we going to stay? You're not equipped for it either. And so then it's like, I have to like buy all these different things to make sure no one steals my stuff and no thing. I'd rather just not have your arm on my stuff. I think I'm going to go on the record and saying it is a failure if you built this thing. And one of the hooks was a Super Bowl. Yeah. Everyone else that is built one of these has gotten a Super Bowl. And then you don't. I guess that's going to feel a little bit like a kick to the giblets. I guess I wouldn't call it a failure, but I would definitely say it's not a success. The slap in the face is what I'd call it. I like that too. I think it's a slap in the face to the city. I think it's a slap in the face to everything Roger.

24:27Everything that Northeast Ohio is built up in this area and everything that they're trying to build in that area in particular. And you cannot tell me we don't have the hotels and the infrastructure to have that many people. We've done the Republican National Convention. We have held NBA All-Star Games, MLB All-Star Games, World Series, NBA Finals. We can hold people coming in and we can hold 70,000 people coming in at that. It's just an insane thought and it would just be, it'd be an obvious slap in the face by a doubt. It feels like an obvious excuse to just don't want to do it in Cleveland. You just don't want to do it in Cleveland. That's it. That's it. That's all they would end up saying. And it's just, that's not cool. If you look at any of the renderings, kind of hard to end the Olympic Village thing, except people are hopefully going to be in it for the next 30 years. And I would bet a lot of people, here's the cool thing about having it and where that stadium is located, is that if you don't want to go to all the downtown events and everything like that, okay, don't, the airplanes will land right next to the Brook Park Village and everything like that. And you can just, you can just hang out in the new infrastructure and you don't ever have to leave anything more than a five minute override.

25:29It's all right there if you don't want to. Yes, but I do hate that as like an excuse. I hate when people say that. So you're, yes, this is the selling point for it. Does it bum me out that people's perception of Cleveland is going to be the airport and five minutes like next to the airport? Yes. Yes. Yeah, for sure, because there's so many cooler things to offer. For sure. No, is that going to be better than people's perception of downtown? I don't really know. I just feel like I just, my true hope is that part of this thing in Brook Park is you get a sense of Northeast Ohio when you come here. And why people don't just come here. Why people marry into families here and stay when they grew up in Florida or when they grew up in Texas or when they grew up in Utah. Like that is part of what I wanted to be. And it's like, or it's just going to be like downtown 20 minutes down the road where people are like, you know, it's just a hotel. Oh, sorry. It's just, it's an airport and a big ass stadium. It's like, we're more than that, but that's okay. Yeah.

26:29And you know what they're going to try to do offset that, right? They'll probably have like a Swenson's there. And they'll probably have like all the like the Northeast Ohio things that you would expect. A burger will cost $20. Yes, exactly. But then the person that comes in and doesn't ever leave Brook Park. You like, yeah, I tried, I tried what they're trying to tell us to try when we come here. 216, 474, 0092. If the New Brook Park Stadium goes up and they don't eventually land a Super Bowl, will that be a failure? And I don't want to make it, want to make it clear. I'm not saying it'll be a failure of the Hazlums. It'll be a failure of the idea. The whole idea is the crown jewel is the, is hosting a Super Bowl. WrestleMania is really nice. I would love that. Final fours would be great, right? Concerts that people actually want to see would also be incredible. Without a Super Bowl, it just feels like false a little short of the whole point of the thing. 216, 474, 0092. Let's go with Raj in Cleveland.

27:32What you got, buddy? Real quick. Real quick, I could say, I don't like the dome. I'm just one fan. I don't like the idea of the dome. I like the idea of the Brownsman outside the city. It's like slapping the faces. The Browns are outdoor team. Historically, you talk about a takeaway to tradition. That's what's doing, that's what that'll do it. And Hazlum is all for his Super Bowl money grab. It's not for the fans. And your partner said, oh, we don't get to, you get a chance. You don't have to watch so bad doors. That's against everything. The real Browns fans were about. Yeah, we've seen way too many December's here, though. You can't, you're no more close to filling up the place, Raj. We've seen so many December's here where you can't give your tickets away. They might say 20,000 came, but there's, I don't know, 7,000 there? I don't think that'll happen.

28:33If you, if you have a, a domes stadium. Now unfairness. I have yet to see the thing that the, that a billionaire does that isn't about enriching the billionaire. So in terms of, oh, it's all for his enrichment. Yep. Yeah, no, the Super Bowl is, is, is, is geared towards. If you host a Super Bowl part of the fun of that is the owners having their own owners meetings, owners dinners or whatever that's called where they just basically spend all that money. But then it's like you, you're the big shot for the weekend. And it's all about you entertaining and you're basically the host of it all. And like, yeah, there's, there's a lot that they like about that.