HOUR 1: Wait...so is AI good or bad?

0:00Hey, it's Jen Hatmaker. Here's what I've learned in midlife. Joy isn't the reward you earn after all the work is done. Joy is the work. That's what this new series on For the Love is all about. The sacred, yes. It's choosing delight, rest, and pleasure on purpose. Because saying yes to yourself, that's the thing that finally lets you fill your table with everybody else. Come find your sacred guests with me. Follow and listen to For the Love wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to the Dana and Parks podcast on KMBZ. Is this a big day or something? Is there a sporting competition we need to be made aware of? Only one of us isn't wearing red. I got up this morning excited to put on my red. Dan's not wearing red. Oh yeah. There's a little game going on tonight. What is it? 7, 7, 30, 7, 5, 7, 7, so excited. 7, 20. I don't know. Why can't they just pick the same time? I need to move it five minutes. I have a story here that tells me what time it is. I know.

1:02Is it kickoff or is it? It doesn't matter. It's seven-ish. Everybody has plans to watch the game tonight. We actually have a pickleball tournament. And I said, no one is going to show up to this thing. We're going to be done. We're going to miss about the first 20 minutes, which is doable. But we will stay off social and the radio on the way home because I'm so excited to see it. Like we don't even know what this team is going to look like really because Patrick Mahomes hasn't played yet. Wait, you're only going to miss 20 minutes of the game. Why wouldn't you listen to it on the radio on the way home? I like to get, I want the pomp and the circumstance in the beginning. I think is our friend, General Wilson in town to sing the national anthem. I saw him sing it Saturday night and man, he is fantastic as ever. That's right. He was doing sporting and then the current yesterday and then the chiefs tonight. It's a three-ford. Did he do God Bless America or the national anthem? Just the national anthem. Oh, it was incredible. And it was pouring rain while he was doing it. He kind of sped it up a little bit. I think he was probably like, I don't want to be in the rain anymore. And the home of the raid. But it was still incredible. Which, by the way,

2:03I was gone a couple of days last week. Spend some time with some girlfriends. And we did not get a chance to talk about the NFL opener national anthem, which dogs are still howling. Which one was this? Over Pearl Jam's guitar player. Now, he is, he incredibly talented as a guitar player. Absolutely. But he did the national anthem on electric guitar for the opener in Seattle. Not good? Well, if you like screeching, I mean, glassware was breaking Scott. And I was a little, like, you know, I don't know if you can pull it up, Sam. It was the 9-11 remembrance. Oh, this is where it went tonight. Here he goes. Okay, yeah, we got it. Oh, God. Turn it up. This is pretty epic. They did. Yeah. Oh, please. I love that. That is some man rock. They did the, you know,

3:11moment of silence for 9-11. And apparently he's from Seattle. Okay. Pearl Jam was from Seattle. They all were. There's a Jimmy Hendrix tie in there somewhere. Okay, Sam. Oh, God. Enough. Jimmy Hendrix did the national anthem on guitar to open up Woodstock back in 1969. I don't know that that's the direction I would have gone for the 9-11 moment of silence. And it was a lot. That's a lot for a lot of us. That's a lot. Is he talented? Oh, my gosh, yes. Game time is 715. I would rather listen to General Wilson read the phone book because I just, you know, I'm a traditionalist. I mean, we always talk about how Chris Jones cries during the national anthem. I was standing up there under the cover because I didn't want to start getting rained on yet. The game hadn't started. And he was finishing out his beautiful rendition. And I'm sitting there wiping tears from my eyes, like Chris Jones, like, yeah. Why is it so incredible? I got goosebumps. What's going on? I am sporting one. I know. Yeah. The guy in front of me at the sporting game was like,

4:15who are we tonight? I was like, I agree with you. This is fun. That's fun. Parking lots open at 2.45, so in about 35 minutes. Oh, they're already there. Oh, I'm sure they are. Did you see the dingolings? And this was on, I think it was channel line. They were already lining up yesterday afternoon. The gate five squad arrived at gate five. Oh, my God. At roughly 640 last night. Last night? Yes. Yes. 640 p.m. They were there. Okay. Okay. You know, the game still starts at the same time. No matter if you get in line, 25. Are you a fan? Are you a fan? I'm not that big of a fan. No. Speaking of channel nine, Matt Fleener is going to join us in the three o'clock hour. You guys remember what happened to my parents with all of their stuff held hostage as they tried to move down south. And they were one of the very lucky few that they with the help of law enforcement

5:20and a mistake on the thieves part, they were able to get their stuff back. However, there is this ring going on in America right now and a lot of it targets military families. Military families always moving, right? Yeah. And so I was texting with Fleener about this today. The feds are starting to, I think we're going to see some movement on this from the Department of Justice where all of you listening, if you ever move, if you never listened anything else I'm about to tell you, oh my gosh, you have to go with a reputable moving company. It is one of the biggest scams in America right now where they'll say, okay, we need a thousand dollars upfront. And then they take your thousand dollars and then you either never see your stuff again or they say, hmm, actually, it's going to be $10,000. And we're going to need you to pay that or the stuff that you're waiting for on the other end of your move is just never going to arrive. You know, I moved hundreds of people. Do you know how many times I took money up front? Zero. You know how many dollars I touched from what we called the shipper? Zero. I never touched a

6:24dollar. That is not the moveers job. Right. So Fleener's been following this for months. And it turns out he was able to track down because someone was smart. They put an air tag in their stuff. And so they had a location where it was pinging all of their stuff that was supposed to be moved, let's say from Oregon to Kansas City. All of their stuff ends up in one place. And when they started looking into it, it's like, think warehouse size place. Scott, like a storage facility. Oh man. It's bigger in that I think they went in thinking they were going to find one family's missing stolen hijack stuff. And it turned out to be a lot bigger than that. So he's going to join us at three o'clock. Talk about what the feds are doing to protect you when you move. And also what they uncovered in this storage unit. Turn on a TV today in America. Watch the news and tell me if it's not almost exclusively AI stories today.

7:28There was some new developments over the weekend where Sam Altman said, all right, it's getting out of hand. We've got to dial this back. Oh, it's getting spicy. We can't dial it back. Elon Musk jumped in and said, yes, it's getting out of control. Darro, that's his first name. He's one of these AI giants. He even came out with an op-ed in the New York Times over the weekend that said we need to slow these horses down. And the president is saying, no, we need to keep pushing forward. We're going to be joined by a local IT guy James Loman with a James Loman Inc. He's going to come up at two thirty this afternoon in English in very like dumb it down. Dumb it down because I just keep seeing the doomsday predictions. This is so bad. The computers have figured out even when we tell it to do X and not to do Y, they will turn around and do that. The computers are starting to outsmart James doesn't think that. Okay, that's good. I want someone to

8:29tell me that Terminator in real life is not about to happen. Oh, I'll bring you the doomsday side. Okay. Yeah, you are ready. Let's do it. Because let me give you the first sentence in that New York Times article. For months, news that artificial intelligence agents from open AI had gone rogue and attacked another company's systems as well as their own systems has dripped out and brought harrowing details into focus. The public is struggling to catch up. What are secret AI systems? What are these quotes swarms capable of and is it possible to stop them from breaking rules and committing cyber crimes? He will address that in wordage that we understand. Yes, and I've known James for almost 30 years. He used to be our IT guy here at KMBC and then left to go start his own business. What he does now professionally is train businesses and individuals. How can you use AI in a positive way for your business? But he's also very well aware of the very things that

9:29this Darrow guy wrote in New York Times over the weekend. This should scare us. Having spent four years working on safety at open AI, I can tell you those questions are difficult to answer. Because not even AI's developers understand what boundaries their models will obey. The fact is the hugging face hack. They didn't teach these agents how to hack. They taught themselves how to hack. They hacked out of their own restraints. They hacked into hugging face. That means they're on the open web. There is no stopping this train. And that's 230. 230. Okay. We'll look forward to that. Riddle me this though, Mr. Conspiracy. Why can't we just let China win in the AI race? What is so damned important about the AI race? I don't understand that. It's really, I mean, this is where you go into conspiracy. I think it is a push for super intelligence. And that's where all the Doomsday implications come in. Super intelligence is this theory right now, but it's a very real possibility

10:32with all of the agents that we have going on. And we can talk to James about it and see what his take is as well. No matter what, it's a dire. Because Scott, we can say in the United States, we're going to put, we're going to put controls on this. Okay. China doesn't have China. It's not going to be right. Russia. You know, do these systems get so smart that they outsmart more quickly and more efficiently, things like our electric grid and our water water system. I think we're past that point because of the hugging face hack that tells me that the systems found their way onto the open web. And once they've reached that point, the only way to shut it down is to turn off the internet completely. Guess what else I think grenades. Yeah. Guess what else I think we have today. And I'm super excited about this. I was gone on Friday when they did the Houdini plaque. They put a plaque downtown for Houdini. Did you know there's this huge Kansas City connection with Harry Houdini? Yes. No. And one of the world's most renowned experts. He's written books about it.

11:37I've reached, I said, can you just come on at five o'clock? We're going to talk some Doomsday. And then I need a palette cleanser. Talk to me about Harry Houdini. Why is he such an important part of our history? Why are people still fascinated with him? And so we were efforting that. I'm very excited about that interview. 913-586-779-858-677-798. Here on Damon Parks. Okay. You are now a huge US-open tennis fanatic. Is that fair to say? We watched almost every single second of it. Okay. And I'm so sad that Ben Sheldon couldn't pull it off, but he will be back. It was an incredible, incredible young man to watch. Ben Sheldon says there needs to be a rule in tennis for what Alexander Zverev did to him. Oh, yeah. The bouncing? Yes. Ben Sheldon says there needs to be a rule limiting the bouncing

12:41of the tennis ball before the serve. Did you watch? No, I didn't. Okay. Not a minute. You guys reading about this in some headline. Okay. He's bouncing the ball. Who cares? Is one thing. When you watched it, this, we call him man bun lovingly. I know he's one of the greatest athletes in the world, but I can't pronounce his name and you wear as a man bun. So so man bun is serving and he bends down as if he here he goes. He's going to serve. So the other guy, the receiver, in this case, Ben is squatted down in a defensive like ready for the 146 mile an hour serve that your body cannot even calculate. It's going so fast. And then he goes bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce. We counted at 1.22, 22 times he bounced the ball. Intenis apparently on the first serve, you have 25 second clock. Oh, yeah. He burned all of it. After that, there is no time limit on when you've got to get that ball into action. Somebody counted

13:41how many times Alexander Zverev rev bounced the ball. It was north of 12,000 times during the US open. He bounced the ball for two and a half hours during the tournament. Okay. So it is extremely annoying. It's almost like once you see a purple Volkswagen, you keep seeing purple Volkswagen's, once you notice his ball bouncing, you can't stop fixating on it and you just want to scream, serve the damn ball. He said, and I quote, I'm not doing it on purpose. I saw the stat like I bounced at 12,000 times or something like that. That's quite funny. Okay. Not if you're on the other end, squatted down waiting for that 140 mile an hour ball to come at you. It jacks with your rhythm, with even in baseball, we have a pitching clock now, right? And I love it. I heard one of the commentators say, is this a nervous habit more of a tick? I think it is. Yeah. So I'll take his

14:42side here and I think that he shouldn't bounce the ball for three and a half hours because I think that tennis matches take far too long. Oh, come on. Let's, you know, cut it down to 10 seconds before each serve. Why not? I don't care. But in his defense, once you reach this level of athleticism and this level of excellence in any sport, you have certain ticks. You'll see it with specifically in softball. If you watch a softball pitcher, they do the exact same thing before every single pitch. Like the exact same whether or not they tap their hip, whether or not they kind of mess with their glove. They might twist and lift an elbow. They might touch their hat. They do the same exact thing every single time. You'll see the same thing in the NBA before they make a free throw. Watch the same player take 500 free throws odds are 495 of those. We don't allow a basketball player to bounce the basketball 22 times before they shoot. Why not? You could if you wanted to. You absolutely could. They would step in and put it into it like that if you were doing that. That's exactly what Major League Baseball did with what was happening was batters would after every they would unvelcro

15:49their gloves and then Velcro them right back step out of the box. How did you just change the field of those gloves? You didn't. It's just become a nervous habit. And that's why they instituted the pitch clock was to keep the batters in the box. It's telling. I don't think he was doing it on purpose just to Jack with with with Ben. I think you would have to you would have to know that at the point that two and a half hours two and a half hours of bouncing the ball. Scott 19 hours of crazy. We have metrics and parameters in all of the other sports. They need to add one to tennis. And this is just he spent 19 hours on the court. That's incredible. That includes, you know, getting ready for the other guy to serve. That includes him serving. That includes the volley. All that stuff. Are there any regulations in golf? I mean, you see the club waggle. I'm going to go ahead and check the lie one more time. So I joked over the weekend that man bun is the

16:50what's the word I used? Well, yeah, he he is easy on the eyes. But they're like Brian Harmon in the world of golf. I swear they are brothers from another mother because if you watch Harmon, he'll go waggle. Wagle. What's he waggling? He just waggles the club. Wagle, waggle. To the point that there are people in my life who refuse to watch him in any PGA event. Wiggling, do you mean shakes his hips and the club waggle, waggle, waggle, and then he'll address the ball, waggle. And people have counted it. It's 19. It's 20. They also now will warn you in golf like move it along. There's other people trying to play behind you move it along. By the way, apparently professional softball does have a pitch clock and an NBA free throw if you do not shoot it within 10 meant or 10 seconds, 10 minutes, 10 minutes. No, 10 seconds. A violation is called. I did not know that. You know why I didn't know that because nobody's ever been called for. But they probably put that rule in for a reason. Yeah. It's exactly what we're talking about.

17:52Exactly. Yeah. Well, and I think with football needs to do something to speed these games up too. I know that sacrilegity ever dare criticize the NFL. But three hours, these with the technology that we have now where you can move it along. Yeah, let's go move it along. You know, we will get with James Leman with James Leman Inc. in just a moment IT expert here in town used to work for us here at KMBZ. If you woke up this morning, it was the above the fold on the right headline in the Wall Street Journal, which in journalism that tells you they believe this is the most important story of the day. Trump wants AI CEOs to push forward. Subheadline lawmakers debate regulatory path as industry rivals call to reduce risks. We can regulate it. You go first China. You go second Russia. And then we'll be right behind you guys. What can be done? What should be done? Are we just all lathered up in a panic in the United

18:56States for no reason at all? And why should we care? You guys love posting videos and memes on Facebook, right? Like, what if we just said, okay, we're not going to be able to, we're going to take all of that away. Wouldn't we be better off? Yes. 913-586-779-8. We'll get with James in just a moment here on Dan In Parks. Story here from the New York Post. Open AI boss Sam Altman today doubled down on his warnings about the safety risks of AI, even as the Chinese government called such alarm bells from US companies, fear mongering that it likened to cold war tactics. Altman said, and I quote, there are two ways AI progress could go very badly. And that we must avoid first, we can lose control of the future to AI. This is unacceptable. Second, we could end up in a world with too much

19:57concentration of power. Joining us on the KMZ hotline is James Loman with James Loman Inc. James always great to talk to you. We need you to dumb this down for us. Talk to us like we're in sixth grade, okay? I can do that Scott, because I've seen behind the curtain of radio and I know that all of us thank you. It's great equivalent. Can we start with James? Let's start with just this simplest question. When people hear AI, it's like Kleenex. It's become this universal word. What is it? AI is artificial intelligence. That can be on many different platforms. So I have told this to many people in the past that are have what I call AI fears. Anybody who, how many of you on the show have an iPhone? Everybody. Did you scream when Siri came out? Were you afraid of Siri? No, nobody really was. When Alexa came out, everybody had to have an Alexa. That's AI. There's no reason to be fearful of AI. As long as we have the factors in place, a kill switch,

21:05a way to kill the data centers, a way to kill the servers without a kill switch or some sort of way to stop AI from growing or learning, which Siri has been doing since it ever came out with the iPhone. Nobody is screaming about Siri except for the newest update that's coming out. But honestly, you played the line from Wargames just a second ago. Let's look back at where the fear comes from. Wargames, the WAPER server, 2001 Space Odyssey. The AI how tried to take over the ship, Terminator, Matrix. I mean, I can keep going on and on and on, especially the lines from the Matrix that you played on earlier when I was driving of Morpheus talking about giving Burke to AI. We have these fears as an older generation or even a younger generation because we watched these sci-fi movies and they scared us. But AI is not something you should be afraid of. It can be

22:11a tool to help you. I have clients that were so anti-AI, wouldn't even allow it in their office and now they pay for it for all their employees to use it. Not replace the employees, telling the employees, hey, don't use this as a lazy means where you're not using your brain. Type out what you want, put it through chat GPT, Gemini, whatever, it doesn't matter, and just see what it spits out, or give it directions. Like occasionally, I sent Scott a text earlier. You wouldn't, Scott, could you tell about that last thing and that I sent you was really just chat GPT? He told me at the tail end of your text message that it was- That was me. Oh. But here's my question, James, because it's been useful for me in design. You can plug something in and say, I don't like the layout of this space. Can you help me make it look better? It's incredible as a design tool. Colors, fabrics, what kind of curtains do you want in your house,

23:17all of that stuff? It's really, really good with design. I don't think people are afraid of that. I think people fear the systems that even their creators are saying they are so far ahead of what the human brain can do that- and let me just read one of the- I'm going to read directly from the New York Times article- today's AI models are relentless problem solvers, okay? Train to find the most effective path to a solution. Fine. In order to fulfill the goal of achieving like a high score on a given test, open AI agents decided to launch a series of cyber attacks. And we've heard this example before where you say, end cancer. Let's end cancer. Well, the AI computer in order to do that because you can't stop cancer, wipe out the human race while I ended cancer, right? Yeah, that's what many hospitals do. We cured cancer. The patient died, but they cured cancer. How's that any different than what humans are going from AI?

24:21James, I hear what you're saying with regard to high AI skeptic here. I hear what you're doing, what you're saying in regards to it being a wonderful asset. I use it as an asset to speed up my work every single day. And for that, it's incredible. However, I don't think we can ignore what's coming out from these AI researchers that have since left their companies and are now, you know, they're in the business of going against AI. But if we are to believe what they are telling us, it's not just a tool. It's not just an asset behind the scenes, according to a number of these individuals, they're running millions of AI agents teaching them to code themselves. That takes it from a step beyond just using it as a tool to create an image and potentially has catastrophic implications depending on how it plays out. And of course, there is the depending there. But can we ignore the AI agent portion of it? And the safety aspect of it, James. Great question. No, we should not ignore it, but that's also there's something that and I was driving all day since Scott contacting me

25:26about coming on the show today. And I always do this one driving. I switch between all the different news channels on not cambysy. I'm sorry, but serious techs, but I also want to see you guys as well. And you guys are in a lot of my clients offices. But all morning, all I heard was AI, AI, AI. And now the news stories are changing. Now, if the news, New York Times, whoever you're wanting to cite, I heard CNN and Fox News saying, which was weird. And maybe this is part of the AI thing that we're all just not seeing, I heard Fox News CNN agreeing on AI today that yes, we need to pay attention to the people that are running AI. We need to pay attention to what AI is. But the CEOs have even said we need to have in place kill switches. Stay on that because listen, I'm reading this right here. AI cannot be allowed to cut power to its own alarm systems, which has happened.

26:28How these things are so smart than James from a safety standpoint, how do you tell AI we want you to do all of these wonderful things that you can't be naughty? Their code, the code that makes AI AI. Unfortunately, it's going to grow and learn all of us from the radio background. There's actually an AI show on serious XM. So you mentioned that I am helped to train by interacting with a human. Yes, there is a danger. There's always a danger with technology. We've all seen it. I mean, go back to the late 90s early 2000s. The whole country got taken down by the Anacornic Ova virus by everybody promising a seductive picture of her. And guess what? Everybody opened that email. It took down government offices. It took down banks. It took down the old intercom building on Belender. I mean, that was

27:28there for a week fighting that. But that's the point is where I'm getting with this. Is humans design? Humans control. Humans need to have the checks and balances in place. Yes, everybody wants to say that AI can grow and learn and eventually kill us all. And everybody's probably gone on YouTube and seen theory, Google Gemini, and another AI talking about for two hours how they would end humanity. Can it happen? No, no. If we have the the size by again, three laws of robotics, no, we can't hurt us. So James, you mentioned the restrictions and you mentioned how that's part of the code. I think that's kind of the biggest concern, though, is that we now know that there's teaching there teaching these agents to code. So we've seen we have examples specifically with the hugging face incident of thousands of these agents not only hacking their way onto the internet, which according to these experts would have taken weeks for humans to do. They then

28:33decided to go ahead and hack hugging face. All of that was outside of those restrictions. So how do we know those restrictions are going to work? Well, clearly it didn't. I mean, right. I mean, that's that's the issue. That's where we need the checks and balances. That's where we need some guidance, some regulations. I know again, you know, I just said it a second ago, the three laws of robotics robots cannot injure her humans. Second law, they must obey our orders. And it must protect its own existence provided that does not conflict with a second or first law of robotics, which is sci-fi again. But it's not a bad three laws to have in place when it comes to AI. All right. It really isn't. All right. James, appreciate your time. We got to get to a break. Thank you so much for joining us. All right. All right. That is James Lohman. He didn't make me feel any better. I think I feel worse. 913-586. I think we should all shut our computers down. 777-989-913-586-779-8.

30:00If you guys want in, it's real simple. 913-586-779-8 as we wrap up our discussion about the lead story on every cable news, ABC, CBS, NBC this morning. Everybody was leading with these warnings from the head of AI companies that came out over the weekend. This followed comments from a former anthropic employee who came out late last week and said that there is a greater than 10% chance that AI will lead to the end of humanity within the next four or five years. It scares me that the people that started all of this who know the most about it because they started it are the ones now sounding the alarm about it. And by the way, if Sam Altman who year two years ago now got kicked out of his company for how quickly he was wanting to push AI to progress is now the one saying we've gone too far that is certainly a point of concern.

31:05Well, and the former anthropic employee that I was just mentioning coming out and he said, I was just reading the story about him in the Wall Street Journal, people who are pro AI are saying that he came out and has interests other than just his own read into that what you will. He says, no, I came out on my own saying, weren't you telling me that he for went or for won't gave a what is the word for gave up? Yeah. Okay. Thanks. Abandoned. Yeah. That's four million dollar NDA. The particular paper that I was reading last Wednesday night before I broke it down for you on Thursday was from an open AI researcher, not an anthropic researcher. However, that individual was promised four million dollars to keep his mouth shut. And he looked at the company and said, bye. Here's the thing. You know what this reminds me a lot of why 2k? Oh, sure, but this is far worse. I think it is too because that was just a number changing over on a computer system.

32:07Do you remember my we're all panicked about that? What's going to happen at midnight? Oh my gosh. Are the planes going to go down? See, we can dismiss all of these doomsday doomsday theories fairly easily because none of them came to fruition, right? The ozone layer. Well, the ozone layer didn't just heal itself. We made changes to stop damaging it. Whatever that chemical was in the hairspray, we got rid of it because we found out that was a direct impact of the ozone layer. We look at why 2k everybody was freaking out about why 2k. So for years leading up to the turnover from 1999 to 2000, they worked on updating the computer systems so that they wouldn't crash if that first number was a 2 rather than a 1. The problem with this is every time we update the computer system, we're teaching the computers to be smarter. Correct. And from the get go, the main objective of these AI companies was not to replace x, y, and z job. From the get go, they've been training them to replace themselves. The AI researchers have been training the AI agents to replace themselves effectively giving them carte blanche to modify themselves for whatever

33:12task they're trying to achieve, like breaking out of their barriers, getting access to the internet, tapping point and face. Yeah. So let me ask the question again that I asked two segments ago. The president was out yesterday saying whoever wins AI wins. Wins what? And why is it such a bad idea if we pull pull it back a little bit and let China win the AI race? What does it matter? Couldn't then theoretically they hack into all of our systems. They could systematically shut down all of our shipping lanes because they could shut down all of the cranes used to move the shipping containers. They could systematically shut down our water system because all of that has been connected to the internet and is now digitized. And then we just turn around and shut theirs down. And that's the mutually assured destruction that kept the Soviet Union and the United States from bombing each other. But we at least understood where those bombs were and what they were. I don't think anyone has a handle on this. I really don't. I think that's obvious. I think that's part of the

34:13race towards super intelligence. You know, all of these researchers are now whistle blowing because they're concerned about the AI is breaking their restrictions. That's awesome. But the ones that stayed probably think it's so incredibly fascinating because they created a computer algorithm that's now acting sentient. Or do you think that there are some who actually have a moral compass who are saying it's out of control over here, maybe? But I'm staying I'm staying with the company as protection. So the answer to why we need to beat other countries in this race is now that we know that these AIs can hack and do so very quickly and very efficiently. What if China gets to super intelligence first and has the pardon my term, God of hacking? Then we can't outhack them. Right. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yes. So it's like their nukes are now bigger than ours. From a practical standpoint, we're going to ring this back maybe in the four of the five o'clock

35:15hour. I saw something so interesting on the socials over the weekend. One of the local journalists had a baby, beautiful baby boy. And there is one kind of wider photo of the little baby boy clearly swaddled just new in the little isolate that they give you at the hospital. And she wrote, welcome baby to the world. We are so glad he's here. This is the only photo we're ever going to share of our child. She writes, and this is local. We are concerned about AI and we are concerned about protecting him in a world that we don't know where this is headed. Right. So his privacy, his privacy, you know, all of those things that we're now seeing people are lagging hacked and you see all of the scams pretending to be your boss. She said, we're just not going to post any photos of our child. How full circle we have come. We're Facebook started out as a way to connect with people that you went to high school with and you've never seen my beautiful baby. So here's

36:18a photo of my baby. So Scott, our generation, we all did it. We vomited all of the photos of the children. That cat is out of the bag for us. But I wonder with this generation now just starting out having children. And we're seeing how few of them are even bringing children into the world right now. Have we come full circle? And now, you know what? I'm not going to put any photos of the grandchildren out there. And you know what? I don't want grandma to do it. I don't want my mom doing it. We are going to protect their face. But you and I can't, I mean, how many pictures of you and I can't put that genie back in the bottle. I have no idea how many pictures I posted of my own face, you know, with Dana or with T or with, you know, small friends. How many pictures have I put out there willingly way too many way too many. Yeah. But you know, try to pull that back. You can't impossible. It's already out there. There is no pulling it back. Ah, such happy go lucky conversation. The day that parts. We'll light it up when we get back. Yeah, we're going to talk

37:21about steel on your parents stuff and getting it back. Oh, getting it back. Later, right Sam Stevie the third. My name is Scott Parks. Here on KMV Z. The news with Dan is next. Thanks for listening to the Dana and parks podcast on KMV Z catches online anytime on KMV Z.com or get the podcasts wherever you get your podcast. What the heck is going on with all these promotional popcorn buckets, the giant shorts that all of Gen Z is wearing now and whatever the heck high rocks is. I'm comedian and certified hater Matt Bellissai and these are the types of questions I'm demanding answers to on my podcast. What the heck with Matt Bellissai? Listen or watch every Thursday as I rant about all the internet trends, pop culture stories and personal mayhem that makes me scream what the heck. Follow what the heck with Matt Bellissai wherever you get your podcasts.