Hour 1- Should we be impressed with Padres closer Mason Miller?

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3:06in New York. I'm assuming he's going to a Yankee game tonight. The last, the last thing I heard before we started the show and I am shocked by it. Because I was going to discuss BAM at a bio again because we have discussed more BAM. I don't think there's a topic we've discussed more this year than BAM. And I was thankful and shocked to hear Israel Gutierrez say to me right before we started, I want to talk baseball. What? Well, technically it was Taylor telling you that I wanted to talk baseball. You wouldn't take the calories, man, we're doing radio. That's what I want to be completely transparent and honest. I know, but it's a detail that no one cares about. When I was talking to Taylor about specifically was Mason Miller, there's a number of things I would love to talk about, but that's just one of them. But if you want to start there, we can start there. Yeah, I do want to start there because listen, Taylor and I have been waiting for you to want to talk baseball since we started doing the show.

4:08I mean, well, we might have, I might have been roped in a little bit because we were talking about baseball in general, and I mentioned Mason Miller and some of his crazy stats. But have you been paying attention to what he's been doing this year, Stu? No. So he's the Padres Closer in case you didn't know that. And he has been absent. First of all, Taylor, correct me if I'm wrong here. He did some work in the world baseball classic. Did he not? Yeah, he was on the US team. And then there was the whole situation where they wouldn't bring him in because it wasn't a safe situation and they were trying to respect the Padres. So he didn't wind up pitching in that last game. So just to look at some of his numbers, Stu, over. So here's including the playoffs, okay? Mason Miller has struck out, struck out, 20 of his last 23 batters, 30 of his last 38 batters, 40 of his last 55 keep going down to 80 of his last 135 batters, 80 of his last 135 batters faced.

5:10He has struck out no other MLB pitcher in the last 50 years has matched any of those stretches at any point in his career, okay? Okay. Mason Miller, none of this one's crazy. None of the last 114 batters who have faced Mason Miller have scored 114 batters, none of them have scored. But here's the thing that kind of makes me feel like you're taking a little bit away from Mason Miller and really the closer position altogether, okay? So so far this season, 23 strikeouts to one walk, zero earned runs and he's given up just one hit. But this next number is the one that makes it less impressive. Okay. He's pitch 9.1 innings, 9 and a third innings and we're talking about this generational never seen before pitch here and it's like, yeah, but he only pitches the very end. It's like if you had step curry, the best three point shooter of all time, but he's only

6:11available for the last minute, if your team is behind, like that seems like you're the one. Yes, but it seems like you don't want to take anything away from Mason Miller. It seems like you're the one trying to take something away from Mason Miller. Well, I want to talk about it with other baseball people. My guy wearing a Yankees jersey over there in New York Taylor and just talked to me about this because am I wrong here because I am mind blown by what he actually can do, but why can't he do it for like three innings? So I have this stat from Sarah Langs, Mason Miller's 76.7% strikeout rate is the highest by a pitcher in his first nine appearances of a season in the last 120 years and is he? The conversation around Mason Miller, we haven't really caught up to, hey, let's start extending this guy to innings to three innings because the original talking point with Mason Miller was he was on the Oakland athletics and the Oakland athletics were not doing any winning. They really didn't have too many safe situations for him.

7:13So the conversation was, hey, we got to get this guy out of Oakland and onto a contender. So the fact that he's even on a contender right now in San Diego is a win for the baseball community. We'll address him, him extending him and trying to maximize his role later on down the road. But that's an actual thing that you can discuss because I mean, nobody ever discussed extending Mariana Rivera or extending, you know, the greatest closures of all time. I don't know why I can't think of another one other than Rob Nen, but Trevor Mason does he have? There's a good Rob Nen is all you had, huh? That's all I got because he was a Mariana, you know, yes, but I'm just wondering like, is it make it less impressive his accomplishments or is it just one of those like, let's just not dig in any further, let him be a closer, let him be the greatest at that position? So that's the role I will tell you in the post season, Mariana Rivera would sometimes go to weddings if he had to, perhaps he'd go more if the Yankees needed it on that particular

8:13night. I am with Izzy from this standpoint. I have often thought to myself, if a guy is that good, just getting three outs per game and throwing one inning per game, perhaps you want to extend them out, perhaps you should see what he looks like. If he threw five innings, four innings, seven innings, eight innings, would his stuff be that good? My guess is no, otherwise they'd be doing it. I would say, and this is the way obviously you would probably have to do that, like, you know, if you're up three to one in the eighth inning, let's just see what this eighth inning looks like with him. And if he only has to throw eight pitches or nine pitches, ten pitches to get this side out. I'm bringing back out for the ninth. I think he'll be fine. And then you just keep going from there. Next thing, you know, might be starting a game for you. And Izzy, San Diego is really the perfect team for Mason Miller because it feels like San Diego has just compiled every player who you would look at on a baseball field and be like, wow, this guy is fun. This guy is must watch, but for some reason, they make a move every like two years.

9:17And none of that has really equated to them having like this great postseason success. Like when they went out and they got Juan Soto in 2022, it was immediately followed by Fernando Tatees getting suspended. And then in 2023, when Tatees comes back from his suspension, it's Soto, it's Tatees, it's Zander Bogart, and they miss the playoffs. That's insane. Yeah. That's insane. There's so much fun and they don't make the playoffs. Yeah, you throw in Mason Miller, man, they better make the playoffs because are you saying you want to see what Mason Miller would look like if he was a number one starter or something? Is that where you're headed here? Yeah. And again, this is probably just more of a philosophical situation with, you know, baseball in general and the closer position. And I understand sometimes those last three outs are really hard to get. And you need that guy, but you're talking about this dominant to performance from the very beginning. Let's see if we can get more out of them. That's all I'm saying. So there's, I'm trying to think of my list of most, the people I trust the most when

10:19it comes to baseball, Tim Kirchens, number one, Jeff Passons, number two, number three, it's Bordop Ricardo. Oh, yeah. No, I would put Bordop Ricardo. I had a passing. I would. Really? Oh, yeah. Yes, yes, yes. And we just got this note from Bordop Ricardo. Mason is very limited. He has a crazy fastball, a nasty slider, and a change up. Not enough pitches to start. Right. And Bordop Ricardo was right. Easy, easy. Sometimes you just have a guy who can come in, give you nine fastballs, get your three outs and the game is over. And that's his role. And he gets paid a lot of money to do that. He does it better than anyone in baseball about that. Okay. So that's fine. I'm going to, here's the compromise I'm going to take. Here's like, I'm just going to not be as impressed. That's what it is. I'm going to look at all these numbers and be like, that is great part time player. You're limited. Ricardo told me so. You're saying do it as a starter. You're not believing in the actual role of closer. Are you? No, no. Again, like I do believe that those last three outs are really hard to get. And if you have two, maybe even just one, Mario and Rivera, dominant pitch, hey, get

11:24me those three outs. I get that role, but I just won't be as impressed because it's just three outs. There's 24 more in the game. Easy. So you're kind of questioning. It sounds like if I'm understanding this right, what it would look like if we started extending them out to two innings, the three innings, the four innings, the five innings, eventually getting to the point where he can maybe transition to a starter. I think what Mesa Miller would look like as a starter is happening in Pittsburgh and it's called Paul Schienz. I can see that. What's what's been going on with him? I remember the first game, I kind of checked out since then. What's going on with him is Taylor would now trade him straight up for Cam Schlippler. I mean, that's not entirely there yet. It's first off, Stu, I am going to the Yankee game later. I just bought my tickets. Happy Cam Schlippler day. It's a Cam Schlippler star. No, of course. Right. A little nervous, but okay. We go with Sal. What are you doing? You and Sal, a little date. Date night. No, so I did, I did ask Sal, well, I didn't ask Sal.

12:26Sal offered to take me to the game and go back, back behind the scenes and meet Aaron Boone. And then he very reluctantly pulled away, set off her because he said he was going to like, Peppa Pig's house or something for his daughter's birthday this weekend. He was like, he was like, I have to go to Peppa Pig's house in Pennsylvania. I'm like, first off, that sounds like a tongue twister, but Peppa Pig's house in Pennsylvania too. Peppa Pig is a cartoon. She's got a house. Yeah. Yep. Yep. You never been in this house? Yes. I started to wonder if Sal just used that as an excuse to get out and go into a baseball game with you. I'm not certain. I'm tempted to. I'm starting to wonder. I'm going to show. If you heard Taylor's takes on Aaron Boone, I was just like, no, no, I can't have you meet that man. Yes. Has there ever been a closer turn starter that it, where it's worked out? I know we've had small two was a great start, a Hall of Fame starter and then became a Hall of Fame closer. I'm not certain it's, it's happened the other way where a guy was a closer and because

13:28this stuff was so good, he had all the pitches converted to a starter and then had a good career as a starter. Right now, I think the best example coincidentally enough is in San Diego, Michael King, who was a big piece in the in the Wandsoto trade. Michael King was a reliever for the Yankees and when they acquired him in the Wandsoto trade, the Padres identified something that said, hey, this guy could probably be a starter for this team. And Michael King, since going over to the Padres, his ERA is pretty consistently under like three, three and a half, which is, which is pretty good for a starter. Perhaps what happened here and is he tell us, if this is the case, you did not want to partake in the Roger McDowell interview. You left him, you left him to me and I appreciate that. But McDowell and a big game six in the playoffs, as Taylor now knows, threw not one, not two, not three, not four, five innings in a playoff game. And you would, you want your relievers to do something like that.

14:29Is that fair? Yes. Fair. Also, you're welcome for letting us. Yes, you have Roger McDowell. I'll tell you yourself. But did you hear that? Did you hear McDowell say that? Did you hear us discuss that with him and you said to yourself, hey, Mason Miller, let's go. Five innings. Yes. That's exactly what happened. He did it. He finally played along with the radio. Yes. I also have a better example than Michael King, I believe in current MLB. When Garrett crochet was coming up through the miners for the white socks, when he made his debut for the white socks, he was a reliever. And then eventually they transitioned and they were like, your stuff is way too good for it to be wasted on one to two innings when we believe we, we can stretch you out. And since Garrett crochet has made the transition to starting pitcher, he's, he's one of the best pitchers in MLB. I wish I started with BAM. I was going to say when we turned to Garrett crochet, which I've seen his name. I've never actually realized that it's actually pronounced crochet. I thought it was crotchet. I think it's time to pivot.

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19:37I'm just studying your hands up against the computers and, you know, self-relooking, speaking of my hands. I mean, stop breaking my balls. I promise you, no shenanigans. Just draft talk. Just draft talk. Any distraction I can get at this point is welcome. Honestly, now, it's like all the reports are done, the draft board set, your fingers are everywhere. It's just, it's making calls and trying to figure out, like, it's kind of a waste of a week when you look back on it every year. It's like, why did I care so much? Why am I talking to all these memes and executives and scouts? You know, like, for what, to put together like a mock draft, you know, but they're fun conversations. And you get a lot of, you know, a lot of information, medical reports, injuries, how the boards are stacking up. And so I've got like, I think five calls lined up for Saturday and Sunday, fly out to L.A. on Sunday for a week in the studio with the new Spotify studios and a way we go. We're live on Netflix. Wow.

20:37Yeah. Yeah. And NFL network. Netflix. Who needs them? I mean, Thursday and Friday night were live. So come check out our draft show. We're fired. Like a mid-career crisis you're going through, we're just like, I just realized this week is useless. Is there any other like things you realized after all this time, we're just like, maybe I shouldn't have done it that way before. I realized a while ago that pro days were pretty useless that they were just a TV event, you know, in the context of what everyone's looking for from them, like no one cares, as long as you're, you're showing up, you're throwing the balls, you know, stuff like that. But they're good conversations to have with people who are there and you wind up kind of gathering some more intel. But I don't miss going to the pro days from my old life. And Keiber would never leave the compound like he was his whole name. Well, of course. Yes. And he was smart enough to put that in his deal and had the hammer to drop on his contract negotiations. So I became the, you know, the pro day guy bouncing like one year it was like Columbus

21:38down to Tuscaloosa to, you know, Lexington, Kentucky to, I did USC and back in the in one day. So I could get to another like, I don't miss those. Right. So Mel had that put into his contract, huh? That's, that's pretty fascinating. I love it. Yeah. I mean, it used to be he'd be up in Bristol like on and off for weeks and, you know, in March and April. And then I think he cut it down to like six days that he had to leave the cyber compound the entire year. And then three of them were for the draft. So Todd, as you know, we're a South Florida based show. So I'm wondering here, Rubin Bain, how much is he going to fall because of the latest news involving Rubin Bain and that, of course, being the car accident? He's, it's not going to be because of that, right? Okay. Okay. And let's, let me reframe it. NFL teams have known this for a long time. It was not news to them when, when I was made aware of it in mid-January. And just before the combine, I started the senior bull.

22:41So they've had plenty, this isn't like Laramie Tonsel where it's like the day of the draft. And some teams are scrambling to try to figure out what this information means and where it came from. And it's not like Jalen Carter, even though it involves a fatality and tragically. And with the vehicle and speeding and reckless driving, I famously, like I got no, not trouble. And I just, I took on a lot of water for that. I told you the fine bomb stuff, we went, we had a long conversation about that, like great teammate, Paul, throwing me under the bus that I don't have any sort. But I knew that what I was talking about in like December of that draft season was there's, there's, I've got two pages of notes on practice habits fighting with coaches, not showing up to meetings, taking classes from home, like the football and personal character stuff. And then that incident occurred and he got arrested at the combine, had to leave, came back.

23:45And so that was all kind of happening real time. But everyone knew about Jalen Carter and everything that came with them. I'm also aware of the conversations that had between agent and general manager and kind of parameters that were put in, in order to even take him at nine, even though he was the best player in that draft. For Ruben Bain, he's a really good young man. Talk to anyone of Miami, you guys are down there, he gal, he was like Carson Beck came in and did a great job and did everything it was asked. But Ruben Bain was the heartbeat of that program. Jason Taylor loves him. Yes. Love. It's not like, no, he's a good guy. We stand by him. It's like, no, get out of here. Yeah. You made a horrible mistake and you hope there's maturity in that and fortunately the family it sounds like of the young lady who was tragically killed has come to peace with it. And so honestly, I think the person that posted this is kind of a scumbag to timing of it.

24:46Look at me, click on my, it's just, it's interesting. Because you know, I know several respected insiders who had this information, it's not indicative of who Ruben Bain is as a person. And it felt teams have already been aware of this information, vetted this information. The only concern is, you know, was more come up after the fact, like we had Edger and Cooper, the linebacker who had an incident pre draft and then he got drafted and got all the money and then there were lawsuits after that became a distraction. There's some, there's some concern with that, but it's the short arms are going to factor into where he gets drafted way more so than that unfortunate incident. Todd, you have the Jets picking David Bailey, the, the Ed rusher from Texas Tech at two and then you have them trading up to seven to draft carnal tape, the receiver from Ohio State. It seems like most draft analysts seem to agree, it's not a matter of if the Jets pick a wide receiver with that second first round pick, but who and when. Do you think that's the right read there?

25:46Because as you know, Todd, we're a South Florida show, but we're really a Jets show. Yes, we are. Well, that's what, I mean, that's what South Florida is. It's, it's smart New Yorkers that move, move the way, there you go. Yeah, well, they're not so smart. They're jet fans. So that's true. So David Bailey, I still feel good about it is interesting. The, the canceled 30 visit read into it as you want. You know, the, the information coming out is we had everything we need. We, you know, we spent, we spent a lot of time with them at Texas Tech pro day. It's just, it's unique. I texted someone and I said, you know, is this, is it, is it BS or is it like, did this really happen last night? And it's like, no, we canceled the meeting. I tried to kind of prod back and didn't get much in return. So it's either Bailey or Reese it, too. I know that for a fact. And when I spoke to source earlier over the weekend, it, it felt like the heavy lean was on Bailey wide receiver. Here's the deal with the receivers, right?

26:47Yeah, let's have a bigger picture conversation. OK. There are six receivers that could and probably will go in the first round. Carl Tate, Jordan Tyson and McIleman are, are the top three. They're in a tier of their own for, for the majority of teams, OK? Then there's the second tier of receivers that include, and, and if you were take a straw poll, surprisingly enough, despite all the talk about Omar Cooper, Jr. from Indiana, my information is that Casey Concepcion from Texas A&M would be the fourth receiver. Well, regardless of how you stack them, it's, it's Tate Tyson, Leman, and then there's a gap. And then there's Concepcion Cooper Boston, Denzel Boston from Washington, OK? So if you're the Jets, why do you make this move? Because you have four picks in the top 44 you'd like to use all of them. But you got a bunch of picks next year, including three in the first. Round as well. How big of a difference in your mind, speaking of Moji and Eric Glenn and their,

27:51their inner circle, is there between a carnell Tate, Tyson, Leman and Concepcion Cooper and Boston for a second group? Yeah, right. First group, second group. So that's, that's what the, the debate would be. But do you want to give up the 44th pick? It could be a starting linebacker, could be a starting or nickel corner or, you know, so that's, that's the discussion going on with the Jets. How big is that gap? Sorry, is he? It's not, it's not massive. And, and the reality is carnell Tate's a four, five, two receiver who is never the number one guy. If you're trying to knock all these guys, right? But JSN wasn't a number one guy. And a Mekko Buka was never a number one guy. So you can kind of debate that back and forth. Jordan Tyson is arguably the most talented receiver, like the routes he runs, the flexibility, the ability to catch on the run, like, he, he's a special talent, but he missed one out of every three games in Colorado and Arizona state

28:54during his four years. And, and, and there's some concern. He's, he's working on on Friday tomorrow. What's today? There's a, yeah, tomorrow, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No idea what day it is, yes, it tells me, it tells you where I am. And it's a big workout, like, Jermon McCoy, that was a huge workout. The second corner in the class, all of a sudden, he runs a four, three, eight, and the information's like, well, maybe it's mentor Delaan and, and McCoy, you know, maybe it's one A, one B. Maybe McCoy goes before him, depending, do they need man to man or more of a flexible guy, like, flexible guy, like, like, Delaan. But then you, you find out, well, the knee stuff in the medicals is not great. The generative is the word I keep hearing from NFL teams. And, and the, and the workout, the position workouts, not as good. Everyone saw four, three, eight, and I, yeah, you know, awesome workout. Well, people who were there noticed, nothing was on the, on social media, the internet about the video of him working out as a DB. And so I say all this because Tyson has a workout on tomorrow on Friday.

29:56If that goes great, I can see him being the first receiver off the board. I'm told that New Orleans could take him an eight. I'm told that the chiefs could take him at nine. And so that parts intriguing to me, but you do have the injury stuff with him. And with with McCoy lemon, again, four, four, five receiver, un a little bit undersized, awesome tape that Iowa game in and of itself is enough for reason to draft them in the top 15. He's, he's so physical, it's great after the catch. Classic tough guy would be a perfect fit for Sean McVeigh. But, yeah, so there's a gap, but I don't want to say it's massive because we, this isn't like Julio Jones, Calvin Johnson, you know, it's not that kind of class. Right. And Todd, I've been reading conflicting theories on potential trades in this draft. They're saying, one side sort of saying because it's not quarterback heavy and because like you mentioned with the right receivers, yeah, there's a group that might separate themselves, but not like one specific standout that there won't be a lot of movement at the top of this draft.

30:57The other side says because there's so much parity in the judgment of these players that maybe people's judgments will vary and therefore they will. Like somebody will say, oh, this guy's going to be a steal at 14. Let me trade up for him. Either of those theories play into whether you think there's going to be heavy trades in this draft. I think I would go with the former over the latter, even though I just did a mock draft that had five trades in the first round. I do it all by the way. Yes. I kind of did too. I was reflecting some of the information you're hearing, but just because you're hearing some of that information and talking to teams and what they're, what they're being told doesn't mean that they'll wind up, you know, panning out. Here's the tough part, is he, right? There's a real elite class in this draft and take Mendoza out of it. You either put him up there with the elite elite or in my opinion, he's a, he's a notch below. Like I don't have him with the same grade as Caleb Williams or, or, um, Drake May or Jaden Daniels.

31:58And I haven't read around where I had came more last year, but a lot of people had came more to a little bit higher than I did. Take him out of it. You look at this class. The elite class is truly the best four football players, I think in this draft. Running back, Jeremiah Love, off-ball linebacker, sunny styles, safety, Caleb Downs. And I would honestly argue, Venga, you want a, the offensive guard from, from, from Wednesday, and then you talk about our Val Reese, who's a conversion player, got to develop him, better have a plan for him. And, and then you, if you want to throw David Bailey in there, you can, I, I think he's right on the cusp, but he's not great versus the run. He's got a little bit of tightness. So like, those are the guys right there. Jeremiah Love might be the best player in the draft. It's hard enough to take a running back at four, if you're Tennessee, at three, if you're Arizona, at seven, if you're Washington, and make him the six, there's seventh or eighth or ninth, the highest paid running back before he takes a snap,

33:01before he carries the ball once in the league. It's hard enough to take a safety. I mean, look at where Hamilton went, what, 14? It's been a, you know, safety's normally don't go this high, but they're going to go. And the reason I say all this is, it's hard enough to take those positions as high as that they're, is they're going to go in the top 10, but then to trade capital to go up and get one of those guys, it's up to the swallow, but then you say, you know what, there's only four or five elite guys in this entire draft. I want to get one of them. So is Dallas going to save sunny styles of sitting there at six, which I don't know that he's going to be because the giants could very well take him or I think came up down at five or for Dallas, they may want either or for that new defensive scheme. They need a guy who can, they gave up, I think, second worst or maybe the worst in the league, tight ends and res, tight ends and running backs, receiving yards last year, the miscommunication, the breakdowns and the secondary styles is, I was told by one executive, sunny styles

34:03from Ohio State, he's going to be a CEO of a company. He's going to run a company one day when he's done with football. He's that smart and like got in together that much. Caleb Downs been the smartest football player in the country since he stepped on the campus at Tuscaloosa and continued to be the last two years in Columbus. So I could see Dallas pulling the trigger. I think two teams to watch that are willing to take, to move out of their spots for even maybe a little less than value. Arizona at three, let's get out of three and move back three, four, five to seven spots and get an offensive tackle at a better value and get an additional pick because we might want to move up for Ty Simpson and if we don't go get Simpson this year, we're going to maybe try to get some capital for next year to go out and get our quarterback then and then also Cleveland, similar situation, needing offensive tackle. Don't want to have to take it at six. We'd love to take one a few, few picks later. Give us some capital for next year if we can get it so that we're in position. If Shador doesn't work out this year to Sean Watson or Gabriel or whatever they're,

35:07you know, whatever works out in Cleveland. So I think, I think those are the two spots to really look at for trades in the top 10. All right. I'm happy for you, man. You seem happy. You are happy. So I am happy for you. Congratulations to you and I look forward to the show on Netflix. Thank you. I appreciate it, brother. You're listening to Stu Gottson Company on Fox Sports Radio. It's Toyota Truck Month. It's time to get a truck that works as hard as you do. Tacoma, Tundra, built for the worksite, ready for the trail, and packed with tech that makes every drive smarter available with 360 degree panoramic cameras for perfect visibility and tight spots, power tailgate for easy loading, and a high tech connected screen to keep you on the grid no matter where you are. All backed by the bread known for its legendary reliability, the Toyota Tacoma and Tundra are built to handle it all. And right now your local Toyota dealer has great financing

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39:12because we referenced the story right before we went to Todd McShay. Every day, page six, you can find a picture of me there and you can find a story about Diana Rossini. Taylor, what are you laughing about? What are you and is he laughing about? What happened here? So this is kind of two parts what I'm laughing at. One is the fact that anything you say gets aggregated by awful announcing page six, the New York Post, you name it. And for some reason, every time they pick a picture of you, you're picking like still photos of you from videos and they're not getting you at the best angles. No, well listen, there aren't really any good angles if I'm being honest, okay, Taylor? I mean, there's a picture now of you at your family's family port, which is your kitchen. And you're just like staring into nothingness and it's like, the New York Post is like, this one's good. Let's run this one.

40:12Hey, post, do me a favor. If you're going to post pictures of me, please use a better angle. Use better pictures because Taylor is right. This is, there aren't many good angles, but this is the worst possible angle. And it looks like a mug shot. It's terrible. Yeah, really. You got to rest it in your own home. All the most asked to do is just Google George Clooney, 2026, have a photo and just use that. Exactly, yes, yes. The other angle that the other angle that we were laughing at is this story comes across. Somebody sends me this story and I'm double checking. I'm triple checking. Because this feels like I'm getting ball sack. It feels like I'm getting fake story, left and right. When I get an article sent to me and the headline is from page six, Diana Rossini mounts daring rescue of elderly man and dog trapped in car. Yes, because it would seem impossible for that story to come on the heels of her last story.

41:13Yes, I understand that. Can I read a couple of details from this? Because this is like, forget what has happened recently that everybody wants to talk about Diana. She's a hero. This in itself is absolutely crazy. So a local news site patch reported that around 5 p.m. on Wednesday, a 17 year old driving a Honda Civic turned onto a street in suburban Wycoff, New Jersey and collided with the Jeep, flipping the four by four onto its side. Okay. So apparently according to the report, a 73 year old driver of the Jeep and his dog were stuck inside. This is what I love about the article. Enter Rossini, who just a day before had quit the Times blah, blah, blah. And I witnessed tells us that Rossini was driving along the same road as the Jeep and the accident happened right in front of her car. Quote, she ran out and had a tall man put her on top of the Jeep to open the door and she and the other guy pulled the driver and his dog out of the Jeep and police arrived soon thereafter. And still what we were laughing at is during this situation for Diana Rossini,

42:16there's probably been a few people who've been in contact with her more than you with with your guy's relationship and how close you are with Diana. And it seems like she just did not tell you that this happened. I just spoke to her. I mean, seriously, today because I'm trying to help my friend through a difficult time and trying to help her find some levity and some laughter in her life because I can't imagine what the last bunch of days have been like for Diana Rossini. And we spoke for like 20 minutes. She did not mention this at all and she knows I don't read the newspaper. So she did not mention that she saved an elderly man and a dog and had to be lifted by a taller man in order to make the save. She did not mention it and I just sent her a text going, how do you not mention this to me? I'm trying to put myself in her shoes like she's driving behind this accident and watches this happen and it's just like, is this going to be in the news too? If I help out because it probably will be, right? Like everything she does now is going to get attention.

43:17It'd be funny if the tall guy didn't want to touch her because there's too much smoke around Rossini. I mean, so he'd rather risk the elderly man and the dog passing away than helping Diana Rossini become an arrow. I mean, how about that? Oh my goodness, yes. Don't touch, don't get anywhere near me. I can give you a boost from this direction. But that's about it. Maybe you want to climb on something. Right, because everywhere she goes, the post goes. I mean, it's unbelievable. A lot of time. Yes, but we should be applauding her. She did a wonderful thing. I mean, how many people would do that? Is he? Would you do that? Wow. I would, you know what? I've driven, this is 100% truth. I've driven by accidents that have just happened and I've said to myself, somebody else will take care of that because I don't know what to do. Like, I wouldn't know what to do if somebody was unconscious or something. I'll be like, I just make sure I look around if I'm not the only one there. I'll just let somebody else take care of it. But I've never been in a situation like that where it looks like I'm the only one there or it just happened right in front of me.

44:20I would probably guess that, yes, I would, but I have sort of turned the other way. But if it was in your neighborhood, you would be more inclined to do it. I'm not certain exactly where this was, but it wasn't like on I-95 because on I-95, yes, I'm with you. It happens right in front of me. It's like, hey, what am I going to do, you know? I like to think that I would help out in this situation because it feels like Diana probably sends the severity of the situation and being able to spring into action when you see an accident like that and you're looking around and you don't see any medical personnel. But the opposite end of that spectrum for me, when I get on a flight, I sign up for the emergency row almost every time. And I always think if something happens on this plane, everybody here is counting on me because I agreed to it, but I'm going to be the first person out of this plane which comes to shove. So everybody, look, I know you're supposed to go first. I'm going to set the example. This is how you get the heck out of here. I'm always thinking, God forbid, there's an emergency.

45:22I didn't listen to a word they said. If I'm Diana Rossini in that car, by the way, as the accident's happening and I'm like, am I the main character? Is there anybody else on this planet with me? Why is this happening to me? It's absolutely insane. It's Toyota Truck Month. It's time for a truck that works as hard as you, Tacoma, Tundra, built for the job and ready for the trail. Available with four-wheel drive and connected tech all backed by legendary Toyota reliability. Visit your local Toyota dealer for great financing and lease options available to qualified customers or visit biotoyota.com to find your truck month deal today. Toyota, let's go places. Copen Hagen's spit-free packs American grown tobacco into pouches Made from when your elbows deep in an engine block. They're masked up, tortured deep cuts into stubborn pipes. Her helmet's on, riding deep into backcountry.

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