Hour 1: Are we too hard on the Knicks?

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1:00still in the midst of the training bit you know where you know every time she does something right to give her a treat yeah yeah every time she does something wrong you just kind of lay a lot lay off yeah yeah and give her no attention so she could not have been better behaved last night on this walk yeah seems another dog doesn't go ballistic yeah like it's all great but I forgot the treats hmm and she's looking up at me like WTF man but what are we doing here but then when we get to the house you got to give her like some bacon and eggs I start walking back to the house and I actually did burp a little bit yeah and she turned around and looked at me and it's like all right where is it my treat oh oh I thought you didn't have something yeah you ate my treat it's Barton Karlin I need to be in New York can I not miss something yeah I'm maybe 12 I've only I've had dogs since I think 2006 yeah because I'm not a dog guy but I got him for my

2:00protection for the family sure I maybe walk my dogs three times oh it doesn't surprise me yeah my dogs it is the most beautiful thing in the world because like you have to get up and walk them at night in the morning I just open it back door well go chase deer go chase black bear go have a party see but that was the thing is that we used to have a fence in back yard where we live down in South Jersey and we had a doggy door so she would take herself out in the morning and you wouldn't have to do it now we got a townhouse and she's waking up now I haven't had to do that but my wife the next couple of days has got a girls weekend in the city so this is going to be all on me you can bond you guys get the bond we do get the bond because she's still my wife went out last night for you know her running errand and she's sitting by the door whining where's mom a whole thing oh man am I not enough and yeah exactly but no we're getting there we're getting there she's saying this is great bonding time for you guys yes and she she's it's it's funny like

3:05and I want to bring it down a little bit today's a tough day a little bit and it's going to sound silly get a river we don't have kids right and we had a dog for 16 years so you're 16 yeah she was she had a hell of a run but it was a year ago today that we had to say goodbye and so I was thinking about that a little bit when we obviously just got the new dog and the new dog has a much different personality right and uh different breed too right yes yeah the the last one was about 10 different things poppa was a rolling stone but uh this one is mostly lab retriever but a rescue two years old and I uh I will say beginning of the morning comes in and just gives you all the kisses in the face and just snuggling and it feels great it feels great and then you know I don't have the responsibility of having to pay for a kid's education so we're good exactly that works for me oh well I got to walk you a couple times today no problem we'll make that work perfecto it is Barton Carlin on ESPN New York on the ESPN New York YouTube page where you should be

4:07subscribed to the channel where you should obviously be commenting and being a part of the program you can also do so at 800 nine one nine three seven seven six I can't believe I might have come to this realization last night and this is me talking have I been too hard on the next I actually sat there last night and I'm watching towns make plays down the stretch I'm watching bridges play better I've seen better consistency over the last couple of weeks since two weeks ago uh tomorrow night with the pistons game they've been better I and you're just rolling your eyes at me right now and I understand why you look back at last year they were 40 and 22 at this exact same spot have I I am actually asking myself right now have I been too hard on the next am I wrong to be asking myself that question you are what's the standard for the next it's not our fault that we have higher expectations this year they put them on us they told us they beat Boston last year they were right at

5:10the cuss and they fired tibito because they felt that maybe he was holding them back obviously they felt that he was holding them back so what's the next step to progress it's either the Eastern Conference finals or the championship and the time is now so we're not judging them when they beat the Toronto Raptors who they're better than who they beaten 12 times in a row are we supposed to be impressed by that no I wouldn't say impressed right the real test is what do you do tonight if shake gilly decide if shake gilly decides to go two games in a row that's he's coming back off an injury can they beat that team because he didn't he didn't go last night correct he's she sga did not play last night neither did heart and style so so are they going to go tonight we we think but we'll keep it so it will definitely be paying attention throughout the course of the show for any news on because our criticism has come not from the fact that the next don't have these spurts when they play very well and they show us what they can be at their height our criticism comes

6:14that when they play against other teams that we think are title contenders they fall short almost every time outside of the spurs that's why we're tough on them that's why we hold them to a higher standard because we don't have precious this time in this window with now the reports that Tatum may come back is a realistic thing and if he comes back we talk about a team that's already ahead of you in the Boston Celtics that gives them a great player so if they've already established they have a better record than you doesn't mean that they're better than you but if they get a all-world player even if he is limited it's going to make their team better which you've already had trouble with their team now we've talked about the fact that that might play a role maybe not from a positive angle in the chemistry of what Jaylen Brown has led them this year but I have trouble thinking that Jason Tatum is going to make them work. It's not like he a new team it's like a new team no it's not like they didn't play together and dominate together

7:16so here's the thing why the reason is now because we knew that Tatum will be better next year because he'll be off of entry what you have to worry about is not only the people in front of you but those behind you you you worry about the pistons right and because the pistons right now have the best record so you have to catch your ass every time you play correct but if the pistons lose this year they have the equity but runway in front of them right they have the equity they have the draft capital cap room cap room they haven't had to pay anybody yet to anyway to add to add to anything that they need to be better to beat you next year by the way and I I'm not trying to troll or anything yeah but even though they lost last night the play that Kayed made to come over on the block yeah was an honorable play that's what happens when you superstars a two-way player or it gives effort on on both ends of the court but I did find myself wondering because okay they

8:19they went out and they took care of business against the team that they should take care of business against yes they have Oklahoma City tonight we feel like the path and we've talked about this the last few days ever since Sunday that the path the nicks have to a championship would have to include facing San Antonio because of a matchup and that San Antonio has these favorable matchups against Oklahoma City I want to be able to see that we can stop talking about that aspect of it can you go and beat an Oklahoma City team tonight at home right I don't have to worry about well I need this team to beat that team to beat this team right for me to be able to get because we don't and I need the pistons to be the the team in the conference fine right because we don't say that about the teams because if you're a good team then you're good team we don't really say the pistons need a particular matchup we don't say that okay see these particular matchup even though they have struggled against the spurs if you're a legitimate title contender then you should be a legitimate title contender we don't say oh man they'll the the nuggies have to have a certain path

9:23we say that the nicks have to have a particular path but I'll even continue with further why the time is now while we hold them to such a standard look at what Atlanta's doing with Kaminga I don't know if you guys are paying attention and also if you look at what Charlotte is becoming Charlotte is 19 and two with their young core all together now they haven't been together a lot because they've been injured and then out of the lineup but this is that is a young I mean what's this name Colchonette Colchonette Colchonette Colchonette Colchonette Colchonette Colchonette Nippon Nippon Pippon right he set the record for you know three points Junior of a rookie already and and you talk about what they did in the draft a couple years ago I forget the the young guy that they got to they have ball they have bridges they have a scrappy athletic team that is 19 and two when they play together. They're behind you pushing you. Now and don't don't please you're thinking of Brandon Miller. Yeah, Brandon Miller.

10:23Yeah, and don't forget and don't let's, I guarantee you can write this down. LeBron James would be in Cleveland next year. And I don't know what that means. I don't know, you got Harding. You got Miss Troop. That's a hell of a big three when you think about the role players then would be a Moby and Jared Allen. Don't think LeBroning will try and this one's for Cleveland or try and ride up to the subset because if anything's apparent this year is that LeBron James is done in Los Angeles. Oh, absolutely, absolutely. And there's there a better way for him to potentially go out than to win a second chip in Cleveland. It's the only place for him to go too. And he'll get so much of the credit because of being a hometown guy. And that's what he wants. That's what he wants. They won't go to downtown. No, he wants the credit. Right. He's going to get the credit. Look, I came back and I gave you two. Exactly, exactly. So you talk about that. Then you have to deal with Boston again. And then you know another year for Philadelphia with now not in B with Maxi and the other young kid

11:25that they have that's coming along like crazy. You know, I mean this year he's a he's a he's a rookie. I don't know why I don't know anybody now. VJ, ask him to ask him. He was a kid from Baylor last year. So that's why the time is now for the next because it only gets harder going forward. Right. So this is the year and this the year today told us because oh, by the way, Shannon Brunson is going to want some money in a minute and you're going to have to have either some crazy luxury tax money or you're going to have to start saying goodbye to maybe some non-core guys like Josh Hart or somebody like that and it's trying and make space for Brunson to get the money that he deserves. So I'm glad that you brought this up because when I talk about the the better consistency over the last 10 days, 12 days. The thing that has been most consistent over the last month has been that they have gotten back to playing better defense and guys like Josh Hart are the biggest reason why

12:25and so when you say that now is the time because of players like that you couldn't be more right and I look at it and I say am I being too hard on them but then again, I don't I don't necessarily think so because it's all been hyped up to me that that including from the owner that this is supposed to be a team that at least is playing for a championship. When you play better down the stretch of the season when Cat plays better and I'm giving him credit for last night play better again when you have all of these things go right it shows it to be a little bit more encouraging for me. All I'm thinking about right now I don't care about the fact that the Celtics are in front of me. I don't care about anything else. All I'm thinking about right now is staying out of the four spot. I do not want I want to give everybody else the best chance possible to knock off Detroit

13:27before the conference finals and then if I have to go through them it's not until the conference final because that's when I'm going to have my best chance to be and I haven't done anything to do that at all this year so it just gives me more time to try to figure it out even more. So the one thing I'm having trouble with though is what we saw this morning from Draftkins. I am a little bit surprised by this and frankly it's got to be thinking a little bit. Out of the eastern conference the odds to win the east have changed despite the fact that the pistons are 45 and 15. Right now here it is in the east Celtics plus 250 to win the east obviously because they expect Tatum back soon. Bill Simmons was saying also I was pointing to Friday I don't know about that but you know it's it feels it certainly feels like when not if

14:30correct Cleveland now at three to one Detroit is third at plus 380 you want to know why they can't shoot this is true man it can't shoot harder and and dunk and rob well K did have a bad game last night offensively yeah five points yeah it's 10 points 10 points five yeah he just wasn't it was but I mean I get more excited when I see somebody make a defensive play like that when you're that kind of a star player so like losing that game last night to me especially when I'm not sure who it was but somebody from the Cavaliers last week said that the pistons were quote not in their class it wasn't a player and it was somebody who said it off the record by or without their name attached to it which by the way is gutless there for real but I'm sure that it is going to be pierced when they fatigue and they don't brand a game and they become the team that people get excited to play against but the next are now four to one and fourth in odds

15:31to win the eastern conference not to win a championship win the eastern conference and as far as winning a championship the next right now one two three four five six seven seven sixteen to one to win a championship this year right now Oklahoma City Denver San Antonio Boston Cleveland Detroit the next your pistons are 15 to one to win the title that's what that's what I'm putting bird down that's value uh the spurs at eight to one that's value eight to one yeah spurs at eight to one to win the championship yeah we might need to put down on oh yeah but my point is like when you get back to the eastern conference and you look at the whole thing it it is somewhat insulting to say the nicks at 40 and 22 right now a team that went to the conference finals last year is the fourth favorite in the

16:31conference behind those other three I mean remember what we what we were saying about them at the beginning of the year how quickly have that changed like let's go back to the first month of the year we had them as D team to beat yeah well they were and not even close and man did the rose followed did the bloom fall off the rose or the rose fall to bloom the nicks had to start the season I don't remember and maybe Tom can check this out for me to verify nicks had to start the season as the favorites in the eastern conference did they not they must have they were definitely they were definitely up there ball verify yeah well they were certainly the pistons were not as of yet uh Cleveland was not right and Boston certainly was not correct so the nicks had to be the favorites at the beginning of the year to win the conference I do wonder I'm honestly questioning myself because now I'm looking around and I'm kind of seeing this disrespect being thrown at the nicks and I'm like am I part of the problem I might be part of the problem I think it's about their resume it's about

17:32they when they play against the good teams outside of the spurs they don't look the same and you know they have to take responsibility for that they can't the problem is they don't they're not consistent it's no consistency they'll show us a good run and that's why this that's why this this part of the schedule is so pivotal because this is a run where we get to see you know how they have now you know the raptors that that's that's a nice little warm up right I mean the raptors are fine whether they're like fifth in it fifth in the east they're 10 10 and a half games back but now we now we get to see like what they're all you know we get to see like how they match up against the the caliber opponents that that they're going to see in the in the postseason what is your expectation tonight and let's operate under an assumption that heart and Stein and SGA will play what is your expectation tonight I think the nicks might they might be wanting three out of the next four I mean I I think

18:35that's realistic two and two would be a win in my opinion two and two would be a win for them so if you have them in the next four games beating who you go to down after tonight yeah I got them losing the makers I got to beat the Lakers and the Clippers people haven't been paying attention but Kawaii has been engaged all year and you know on the road in LA after coming off of you know these tough games and these games to take a lot out of you when you play against good opponents they take a lot out of you and you know I don't know like if if the Clippers are coming off of rest of the day or something like that it's it's going to be a main it's going to be a p-cock game it's going to be big time the Lakers going to be a p-cock game you know I mean they're and and and they're playing the Clippers off a back-to-back the Lakers are in ABC game right that's what I mean yeah yeah three thirty so then they're going to be going and they're going to play the Clippers the day after back-to-back that's that's that could be a scheduling

19:36loss let alone people not realizing how well I know we thought that after harding and Garland came in and played well with them as well you know I mean after after he was traded from Cleveland so I can see them one in three but the thing is is like once you get past this stretch and then you get into Utah yeah yeah and you get Indiana and you get Brooklyn and you get Washington correct New Orleans but then you got Charlotte and that's not going to be easy no no no but I'm telling you it's like listen the one thing I'm really thrown by and I get it it's just during the regular season it's not counting the postseason is how much people are loving up on the Celtics with all of this even with Tatum coming back when they have the tough schedule remaining in the Eastern Confirm so I that's a tough one to see too yeah I mean the key is can they can they catch Boston because it gets back hard you know I mean they they got these like what one two I can't I can't ever call a game that potentially has Steph Curry in it a fluff game so you you never know there but Indiana Indiana they can't beat Indiana remember well they they

20:37lost by 14 but you know you said so we can't say that's easy I have to think I have to think that they're going to go back with that which is that's one of those games that's going to stick with you go back and but do you think you split because you got him twice with Indiana you know you better win both you better win both it's easier said and done you got him to you got him twice in four days uh the cabs or the next depending on where you look where the preseason favorite knees more Cleveland love than next but they were both right there I didn't realize that the cabs got that much love comparatively speaking uh to the next but I we knew that we knew that somebody was going to get elevated yeah because of the two teams that you know was Indiana with Halibut and Boston we knew it had to be somebody and it was going to be the Cleveland or the next we knew Detroit wasn't getting a love listen I was going more off of what the next did last year and what they were bringing back this year which seemed to be you know listen maybe they were down playing tibs a little bit or rather

21:40playing up the fact that tibs was gone a little bit um when they weren't considering them as the favorites uh and the cabs were getting the nod over them and I cabs have been good for a few excuse me a few years now it's like me looking for a name you looking for to wear it like I'd be looking for names so it's all good I got to just tripping over my fat tongue no diddy do that do with that what you will Barton Carlin ESPN New York and so here's the question have we been too hard on the next I really want to know if you feel like and I probably know the answer but I really want to know if in fact I have been too hard on the next because now I'm starting to feel like they're getting a little disrespected and that kind of wait a second only we can smack around our guys yeah that's all yeah you we can mess when you can exactly eight hundred nine three seven seven six a lot going on today I'm very excited for Phil Sims today Phil will be joining us at noon he will beginning today every

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25:48they have played much better defensively and I will be the first to give them credit for that see but that's what you always ask yourself yes they play defense but you're asking who they planted against I mean Barnes and Ingram Ingram got whatever you want to just say so what you want to see you want to see how they play against teams that have multiple multiple options but I can't hit them for that when it's been a month that they've been playing good defense top five in the league in defense over the last month I mean that has been better consistent who have they played like see that's what that makes me want to go because this looks like when they played the pissant pissant get whatever they wanted the pissant got lazy at the end of the game yep you said I'm saying so I want to know like good defense against who it matters it's like it's like if if I go a month in a week part of my schedule and I shut down Cleveland Arizona Jacksonville you know what I'm saying it's like is it fougaisy or is it real no I understand completely I think for right now all I can do is give

26:49them credit for what they have done in front of that other group these next few games I won't lie like I'm very interested to see how these play out and listen for instance the other day against the spurs right I was excited to see that game but I do have to put into context for the spurs that that's the toward the end of a road trip that is a long road trip and it is on a Sunday afternoon against the next at the garden it's obviously not an easiest Simon in any way but that was a team that was rolling and just seemingly partially took the day off ran out of the gas and it's the sign of a young team which they are in a lot of positions let's hit the calls 800-939-3776 we start we see Dylan Harper at the strip club right because you know this is old hood all right not to my knowledge I don't think he was Dylan D in Queens is up first on ESPN New York do you what's up look what's up okay for the next 20 some last time the thing with the next is

27:52they have the worst back card on all the top 14 if you think about it and that's with Jalen Brunson think about it Jalen Brunson is not him and John of the Mitchell color the draw he's not better than Kate he's definitely not better than on Wednesday in the Jalen Brown so that's why it's next to get a knock on top of it the calves might do this part needs to speak on this the calves have the choice number this is twice not like the last game they lost because if you tell me that do Jason Tyson had money on the game I would believe it because he threw away that game but other than that they kind of dominated in that game and this game too and gave his super power versus most guards is that he stronger no guard is stronger than hearted so and you saw that last time he couldn't he couldn't boy in the way he does most guard so it could be very you have been watching the playoffs yeah but but but but but and you're hearted in the playoffs we got to see that too and don't worry we can we have two right and also we have two more game for stew beef to come back then it's all changes okay okay and then I don't know

28:54why Nick shares assuming they're going to beat the Celtic this whole concept oh you want to get the two three why are y'all assuming y'all beat in the Celtic and Taylor has been played a single minute yet like I don't understand that why do they make the same like that like the Celtic they beat them last year because they beat them last year you know you got to go off the revisionist history right they went against them last year so I think they feel confident in the fact that they match up well against them and you know they confident that they can beat them because they know the game plan and know the sets you know teams are well here's the biggest thing though if we're going to look back it's amazing my default setting seems to be going back to hating it really does because I'm the one sitting here it might be in two tough on them and this is not making excuse they beat them they did everything they had to do the Celtics could not throw it in the ocean from three in that series and and they took that calculated risk and it wasn't about the next playing amazing three-point defense in that series and the three-point defense this

29:55year has not been great yeah so I think this is part of it I mean I think you talk when you talk about the three-point shooting you know I think this year forced the Boston cells to play a little bit more a little different because you know they have guys with different talents I know Pritchard still thrown it up and white still thrown it up but you know they really go inside out a lot more with the pick and roll with the the big center they got let's hit Anthony and Douglas and next on ESPN New York Tony what's up baby how are you hey you doing my guys so I was something of time before and yeah I you guys got to stop with the with the Atlanta Hawks the Magic and the Horn I mean no we talk about future we talk we talk about in the future like we stand there young team behind them you know I understand but I feel like none of those teams have a closer first off and I don't think any of the top teams should be scared of any of their you know top players because they haven't proved anything yet I mean who will we

30:57scared of in the playoffs even in the future for those teams you know I mean LeMelo's good but I feel like he has a lot to prove I mean the Atlanta Hawks they have a decent all-around team but they don't have any closures and the magic I feel like they have a lot to prove as well I mean the magic may be the best team out of those three to me because they have a ready player like Desmond Bain and they have Paulo who could be a superstar in the future but I don't I don't think the top four teams have anything to be worried about even in the future and I'll go get the pisses the pisses gets crappy against Charlotte Charlotte gives the business problems they so athletic they all they do is run they're 19 and two with that with that starting lineup they they've been they they I'm telling you you heard it here first you heard your first I don't know I just don't I don't think they're the persons because the persons had Cade and they had just a better coach and they have just better players to me um and I feel like the

31:58mix shouldn't be you know the mix should be anticipating next year because we have an opportunity to get young so I feel like listen we we have all about edge in a basket right now but okay I agree Anthony but if I were you I would not even think about next year this is this is not about the next few years teams like the pistons can afford to do that even though that they're 45 and 15 because they are where they are as young as they are and as much as they've been determined by the draft and by getting young a couple of solid veterans in Harrison such to really even them out the next that's we're not talking about next year this is a free agent team when you talk about the next you know and that's the issue because when you have free agents the window is much shorter because the money don't the math don't be mapping right everything that they pretty much got they they bought you know me see like cool catch I'm in with this okay I would believe all about that with the next except champagne did did go

33:00crazy on from three in the New Year's Eve game the next would be undefeated against the spurs just like settle down like if if some butts in candy and that's every day would be Christmas it happened the guy did go off and they lost that game I tell you who I want to see more of is the deer and warry guy do you want to get war I think you're gonna I mean they they they they they really got something special with him and he may be he may be the player that allows you to walk away from a Josh heart right now he doesn't give you the offent me the defense that heart and injury energy but at 19 years old what he's doing and his fearlessness I mean this dude do not care about shooting the ball this dude will jack 80 first of all to take 13 shots as a rookie is crazy can did I let this go did tsunami tsunami points this out did he actually called James Harden a plus defender did that happen I wouldn't be surprised like I want to go back in almost how did I let

34:01that go do I mean go back in no no I'll just hammer him the next time without checking it just you know have fun with it but like how did I let that how do you look a comment like that go see this is what happens sometimes sometimes I just black out and like with D that can happen but I blacked out in the moment James Harden a plus defender what are we doing yeah did that really happen but James can play defense when he feels like it and like maybe he felt challenged because because Kate is few and far between yeah yeah I mean because Kate is uh his size and he looks at him as an opportunity to like uh you know prove a point tsunami and to the audience guys I apologize if I let that go yeah you did let it go it's a bad job it's a bad job by me I can't happen can't make it more can't make all the size it's it's part in Carlin on ESPN New York on the ESPN New York YouTube channel go there subscribe comment on this um boycott D in Queens all right settle down uh

35:02and then I'm a lot of people are impressed with D.R. uh D.R. and they should be listen what you are seeing is that um and there are numbers to back this up and we'll share them with you in a moment if you do want to give credit to Mike Brown for one thing it is extending the next lineup quite a bit and the bench quite a bit because when it comes to the numbers in minutes there is a drastic drop off the sure they need to just go ahead and release Clarkson as you know managing maintenance repair and operations is never easy but for the ones who always rise to the challenge Granger has your back from professional grade products you can count on to fast dependable delivery they're there to help you keep things running smoothly plus their technical product specialists are here to help answer your toughest questions and because Granger no safety is always a priority they're committed to being your partner in protecting both your people and your facilities call 1-800-GRanger clickgranger.com

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37:06thanks for listening to the part in carlin podcast i want my enemies to burn and hell catch the show on demand whenever you want just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts here's a couple of things i want to share uh this from Tommy beer will give him credit on uh twitter thus far this year nicks have played a total of 25 games against the top six teams in each in each conference they are sixteen and nine in those games which is markedly better than last year they were ten games below five hundred in the regular season against the top six games teams in each conference so that's obviously a much different result and then how much do you want to play into this again keeping in mind through sixty two games last year exact same record right forty and twenty two Josh Hart played thirty eight minutes of game last year this year he's at thirty Michael bridges thirty four minutes of game this year thirty eight last year

38:07oh gee thirty seven down to thirty three jalen is down about a minute you wouldn't expect that to be down much and cat is down about four minutes again how much would you look at that and give them credit on that front but then to your earlier question twelve of the last twenty games have been against teams below five hundred i mean and you only play that's who on your schedule and if they lose to if they lose three out of these next four it's not a it doesn't mean that they can't win because i think regular seasons games are circumstantial based on the elements and things like that all we can do is take small indications and and take small gathers of information to make educated guesses could they still go out there beat the pistons after losing to them absolutely they can't can they beat anybody sure they can but we want to

39:08see evidence that they get they get they're built to the right stuff and hopefully that when they play these teams they're gathering information not only about their opponents for future matchups but about themselves let's hit it eight hundred nine one nine three seven seven six Blair in plainfield is next on ESPN New York hey Blair what's up hey Colin hey Bart listen by the way mixed fears like we are excited because no deal while in when he's played fifteen minutes or more he's averaging a plus minus of plus sixty four and he's homegrown second round i think you can average plus sixty four i think total would be a plus sixty four because okay i'm sorry that means that they're average they're on average outscoring teams by sixty four points a game when he's in the game that's i know what you're saying you know plus minus is much better you know what he meant Colin move on well look it look it's it's a positive wouldn't you agree yes absolutely look every twenty-year-old kid to give you this kind of a lift yeah is incredibly encouraging my cousin's name

40:10Blair yes we don't give you bonus time because my cousin's name is Blair are you the only one cool are you only Blair because it's three of them he's Blair Lewis picked a third hey listen i'm fun to Bronx too not a lot of people named Blair in the Bronx but anyway no one is famous Blair she either Blair Underwood yeah Blair Underwood black Thomas yes same same name different bank account let me just say this real quick um listen car and i can't blame you if you fallen into that vacuum of negative mix you know i haven't fallen into it i've i've lived in it all year all year if you would if you would i mean i'm a diehard nixan all the way back to channel nine okay back in the day um i you know i was like Steve Albert three when he wants i've been suffering a long time but i'm sticking with the nix the bottom line is this and i'm calm about this there it i think the nix have probably for a lot of reasons the least objective narratives in the NBA besides the lakers there are big market team that means more eyeballs more focus

41:12everybody gets their best game game ready for the nix there's no load management you got to really be hurt if you're visiting team i'm not making excuses but negativity gets more nix for clicks and you got season a stupid i mean season a smith and you got dream on green you got people like that who know that it's a big big amount of attention and money when you are negative about the nix plus you got very obnoxious i'm i'm an expand on realistic nobody likes me the new yorkers outside of new york okay so it's easy Blair tell me this really yeah good what would be considered a disappointing season for you deathbar without a doubt disappointing would be anything short of an appearance in the NBA finals an appearance so here's the thing is like you're talking about the nix for clicks and all that stuff but your expectations are where our expectations are that it would be a

42:12disappointment if they didn't make the finals like i don't even know if i would call that a disappointment right now i don't if they may if they'd lost in the conference finals in seven to the pistons in a hard fought series i don't know that i would call that i could in good conscience call that a disappoint not when the pistons are played like they have all season well it'd be disappointing me because you let it tamed out was behind you last year that you sent us past you yes i get that too but you understand what i'm saying like we can't be all of us are so hard on the nix and beating them up so much but then well it's a disappointment then we'll get to the finals right but you're setting the standard which one by which we are trying to determine what's the success and this is why you interpret what we do as negativity whereas i would more interpret what we do as a realism and an expectation like you could argue that maybe my expectations

43:14are too high for what they're supposed to do well they told me i'm too positive on the next i mean they told us then they like bridges down all right even i can't sell them yes well they like bridges down and told us that that was all they needed well it lead i i can't go to town on him again but there's no need to at least he's playing a little better they play better he's played better last couple of games he has he absolutely has Derek and hillside is next he has been New York Derek what's going on yeah i was going on guys how y'all doing today man good uh talk about the next man love they've been playing better i think the two acquisitions i have a lot on soldier and has probably shifted the culture with the defense a little bit but um the minute thing it's like last year to me i can't blame them but oh because we can look at the bitch who do he really have to really play they didn't have a duo aura the young guy she'll talk about now who Debbie is promising they didn't have a type of pole in Jordan Clarkson

44:17and stuff like that is really he didn't really have much he had cammin paint come off the bitch yes shaman i mean he didn't play shaman last year i think shaman was a little bit hurt wasn't he last year nice his ass was hurt from sitting on the bed so much yeah but yeah but i mean that'd be kind of play shaman to be looking at what shaman's doing this year but he really he's talking about one player that i mean you need at least three to four if you want to make a deep one in the play oh so to me it i get white brown has been a lot you know we'll search with the minutes and you know sharing the minutes around and he has a better bitch i just want to know from you guys' perspective like um the last caller i didn't um not the last one before that i think he was talking about the guys the teams that are you know yearning up to make a run in the future he was like shooting down at charlotte carolando charlotte or eland or eland today there's some serious tends to me or eland or audini does a competent coach i think after this season they probably won't get rid of them all mostly to be honest but eland if you get a big man

45:19and with um charlotte and audini if they get in the playoffs yeah i don't want to see charlotte yeah man you don't because you think it a little bit experienced that's going to do a lot for the confidence into the next year so i just want to know how y'all really feel about what i said about uh jimal moseley and the charlotte hornets listen i i am high on charlotte hornets and listen people see people aren't paying attention and what happens is they got the suspension so the suspension you know kind of stop their momentum but they got into that scrap with the pistons because they was getting into pistons as and giving the pistons some of the some of the same some of their same treatment so i mean if you ain't paying attention man ball is a is a is a could be a perennial all star if he can stay healthy carniple is is a shooting machine so now they have the spaces that need branding millers or dog you know the first person that stepped up to try and fight stew beef was mild bridges he brains that dog mentality you know you can disagree agree with what he did in a couple years ago how you see him but he's a he's a show no

46:21player and then they got then they got the moosa on the outfit guy man so they got they got they got a bunch of young guys that that play very well and then listen that's another young team you know the outfit or whatever i can't say about that yeah do you buy that 24 years old brother thanks for listening to the bard and carlin podcast book of your chanstra we bought the bank here more of arts god and criss-carlin mornings at 10 on the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers as you know managing maintenance repair and operations is never easy but for the ones who always rise to the challenge granger has your back from professional grade products you can count on to fast dependable delivery they're there to help you keep things running smoothly plus their technical product specialists are here to help answer your toughest questions and because granger no safety is always a priority they're committed to being your partner in protecting both your people and your facilities call 1-800-GRanger clickgranger.com or just stop by