Hi-C & Tony A | The Dr. Greenthumb Show

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1:01That's right. Check it out. You are live on Dr. Greb Thumb Show, Twitch Discord Kick X YouTube and the home site www.breal.tv to my right, Mr. Goodlite, DJC- What up? Happy Thursday. Hmm, we got the tree house squad boat, uh, Bra, Bra and the Dominator. What's up, y'all? We miss Bolton as he's up in Minnesota. We got my man Tony A up in here. What's up, kids? Salute, everybody. Thank you. Thank you, brother, for having me, but having me and high-speed back again. That's right. And we got the legendary high-sea up in here. Big, thank you, homie. It's a good day. I want to say congratulations to both you, brothers, 35-year anniversary. And appreciate that. Yes, yes. She went by like in a flash. Um, it's crazy how time flies like that. You know what I mean? Like, you know, you do your shit and then you look up 30-year-old. And then you look up 30-years later, bang. Oh my god, it's 30-year, 35-years later for a lot of us.

2:05I mean, this is your 30-50. It's our 30-50 as well for the first album. A lot of us hit the 30- We hear still, man. You're glad it. Yes. Thank you for that we're still here, man. Yeah, I mean, you know, because what you think about it, when we came on into the game in the early 90s, we were still with that bullshit about hip hop being a fat. It was going to last. It only had so many years of life. And here we are celebrating over 50 years of hip hop and 35 years of our contributions within it. Absolutely. You know, first and foremost, B, I want to say that I'm thankful that I'm still here, 58. And to be quite honest, I'm looking forward to turning 60 soon. Oh, one of the few that's looking forward to turning 60. Hey, but listen, you know, it's good you say that, Tom, because realistically, you know, people are like getting older as a fucking death sentence. We're all going to die someday. Yeah.

3:05Some of us earlier than expected. Some of us much later than expected. Oh, yeah. And I would say that a lot of us that do this hip hop genre and the places that we come from before we caught an opportunity to hit a lick, right? Some of us could, you know, been gone already or locked up or, you know, whatever, right? But here we are. Absolutely. And the fat is not a fat. It's actually a dominated, a dominating genre that has like, you know, progressed and evolved and grown beyond anyone's expectation. And here we are 50 years fucking later. Yes. And new songs are coming out popping. Old songs are having a run again because people appreciate the golden age or the golden era hip hop. Yeah. And even, you know, generation one and two. I mean, like people are going back to that music

4:05because it's so strong. That's hip hop. Yes. You know, be, um, let me interject. One time I was live on my podcast and you came in the live chat and you said, hip hop saved my life. And I just want to echo off of that because it's true. Because there was many times that a lot of my gang banging the homies would want to go hang out with girls, or want to go do some malicious shit. And I would say, I'm going to stay home and practice, bro. Right. I wanted to get down on the turntables. That came first before anything else. You had to choose? Yes, bro. So I can actually say myself that hip hop saved my life. Keep me indoors. Yeah. You know, basically, look, I told this story on the forward of the delicious final book, Bust of Move, I believe it's called, right? Yep. It saved my life in the way that when Melo was working on his first album, I was still actively gang banging. Right. And they knew I was decent with the pen. I wasn't necessarily great at doing the, you know, at wrapping yet. My voice, I hadn't figured it out, but my pen was pretty decent.

5:08So they took a chance on coming into the hood and said, Hey, Melo's about to be in the studio. Delicious final where tone low and young him see. And, you know, at first I didn't take it serious. I was like, I ain't going to make no money off this rap shit. I'm slaying on the block right here. Cycle less of the building. Salute. Cycle less of the loop. But I was, I was wrapped up indoctrinated as some of us are when we joined gangs. You know what I mean? It's a condition in a mindset that's applied to you by your G's. Yes. Right. So I'm in the mentality like, oh, this ain't going to make no money out of this. I'm cool right here on the corner. Yeah. And they're like, come take a chance. Just come to the studio. Let's see if you could still, excuse me, if we could, if you still got the pen, right? So I got in there. I seen tone low come in the building. I was like, oh shit. And I knew he was a crypt, but I was still like in awe.

6:08Yeah. Because at that point, when you're a fan of music, you ain't tripping off of affiliation, not back then, right? Then I see a young MC coming to building and he was doing something with tone. I was like, oh, shit, that's young MC. And that's, that's what got me right there, like being in that environment. And I was like, you know, I kind of want to be in the studio. And I dedicated myself to being in those environments as opposed to being on the corner. Did I was on previously? And I even had to talk to my circle of homies within the set. Because you know, within the set, there are circles and circles and circles. We, you know, we all might be from the same neighborhood, but we don't all get on with each other or even sometimes get along. Yes. We have our own circle of homies and I had to go to them and say, hey, I'm going to do this. You're all good with that. Yeah, go do that shit. Yep. And that's, that's when I chose. Yeah. And what trips me out the day, tone and high and less than C.

7:09We got two C's here. Word. What, what trips me out is how I'm all focused into game now. Bring it over. They don't make the choice. They still actively stay in the shit. Yes. While trying to do the music, not realizing it puts a bigger target on your back if you hit a lick. Yeah. Meaning get success because then your enemies are really fucked up about, oh, he got money now. He got fame. Now he thinks he's the shit. We're going to bring him down to, you know, bring it down to the level again when we catch this motherfucker. You know, and you've seen that throughout the years, people that try to still be active and get into this game. It's ridiculous. Yeah. You know, I'm glad you brought up the story about tone, low and young him C. And I'm going to tell you why because you were amongst greats. I heard you say it second. I heard Dr. Dre tell me this in 1989 and he said, Tony, if you ever want to be great, you have to be amongst the greats. Right. And I heard you say that here.

8:09And I said, it is so, so true. And you were amongst greats from the very beginning and you surrounded yourself with greats than rather to be on the streets. Right. And that's a part of why great point. Great point. And the hugs gave me that game. You know what I mean? Like someone told it to him, some older motherfucker probably told it to him. You want to be great. You got to be around other great motherfuckers. And that's what I tried to do. And again, like you said, I had to make a choice. Am I going to be around the OGs on the street who are great at what they do there? Even though it's not great for society. Or am I going to be over here with these guys? You know what I mean? Like trying to put out great music. Trying, you know, because no one ever is guaranteed that it's going to be looked at as great. But given the effort, you know what I mean? And I do, you know, this is the one shot I got right here to do something different with life. You know what I mean? Half of my homies that were in my age group, they were already locked up.

9:10Yeah. I was one of the last few in my age group still on the street. And all the OGs were pretty much locked up. So, you know, I was coming close to getting reeled in all the fucking way. At that opportunity, not come to me. Yo, this is none of this would be here. Yeah, one be here. Right. Right. Right. This would be here. Go ahead, go ahead. No, so be sticking to that story, right? And this is just for, we all know right here, but for the youngsters. Yeah. Just like elaborate on going back to meeting, like you said, you met young MC, right? You met tone-look. I had a similar situation where Courget's Blow was downtown. Yes. I was like, God damn, I got to go down here and meet Courget's Blow. I remember, uh, Dev Jeff of all people being in there. Yeah. I think, I think, uh, I can't remember who else, but just a couple of MCs. Yeah. And that shit right there just gave me the inspiration and the spark like,

10:11damn, they hear right here. I'm looking at these motherfuckers in front of me. Yeah. Like, this is not on TV no more. I can see them. Yeah. And today's like the youth now, I think they don't really know how important they have it to like, you can push a motherfucking button, homie, and you can be damn near everywhere. We had the jump in the car, get on the bus. Yeah. And they don't know about the transfer. The transfer. I got to get a transfer. Yep. If that motherfucking bus bought the turn, get the give him a dime or 15, sit for the transfer to go down here, just to try to get an adored. Yeah. Or listen to this shit and I don't know how many huzz we then went through. Yeah. Just to try to go down here and then the motherfuckers kind of, you know what motherfuckers is on and got time to live in a new order to hit you with that. Yeah. It's alright. It's a crop. Share the story on where and how you met easy. One of the greats. Oh, so yeah. The story on meeting easy, man, this shit was funny as hell. So I had a job at the road, you know, swad me.

11:11I was, I was wondering, well, one of the homies, he passed away and they bebe, man, from the neighborhood. Bebe said, man, I was always in the hustling this shit. Be so he said, man, you want to make some money? I was like, damn, right, I want to make some money. So he said, hey, let's go to the road, you know, in the morning when they set up, you just walk up on some people and they asked him, do they need help loading a truck up and they'll pay you. So I was like, all right, shit, let's do it. I was always optimistic. I'm like, let's go get some bread. Yeah. So we get on the Gardina, we went to, once again, going through a couple of hoods. That's right. For Compton, you know, coming from it, going through the Gardina and there's got a couple of essays on there that's looking at you crazy. Yeah. You go over here, it's like, okay, we made it. We get there and I met a dude named George. And George, a little French dude, a little fat dude. We got a lot of game, man, mouthpiece out of this world. He had grab a girl and say, hey, you look good in these pants. He had the pants, supposed to be true salesman. Yeah, just a salesman type of motherfucker. So I get to take a lunch. So when I take a lunch, I'm always hearing like the shit that just like that attracts us.

12:14Like you said, the air that's, you know, like growing as strong as hip hop is that real shit. So every time I could just hear it blaring, just boo, that shit. I'm going right to where I hear this shit at. And it's Steve, you know, is this my fucking roughie? Yeah, yeah. And I'm like every lunch, I'm pulling up and I'm like, man, I'm already getting down. I love music, music is in my heart. So I'm there and listening to that and they had the airbrush on me. What was his name? Arty. That was Arty. Yeah, Arty. That was kind of before cartoon. Is that skateboard? I believe so. Arty, and then there was another guy named, I forgot Carlos Luke, and I'm going to give him a shadow. And I'm trying to, and the other guy, he passed away. I forgot his name. Arty was from Gardino with thick mustache. Yeah, him. Yeah, he was airbrushing at the stand. Well, I got a story for you in my dude, but yeah, he was a really dope artist. Oh, dope, like a mother fucker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm, this is a funny shit. I'm getting the shirt, mate, right? And I got the shirt up there and it got the hood on there.

13:14And it's Steve, you know, Steve, you don't know. If you don't know Steve, but seeing Steve, you'll think he was black the way people talk about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Steve's Asian or whatever. So I'm like, this is what I want on the shirt. I tell Art, and he put it on the shit. Yeah, it got, you know, it got powerful on there. Yeah, and this and that. So it's hanging on his, you know, like when he finishes work, he like to show it off. Yeah, he put the shirt on the motherfucking thing. And when I come back, it was like, man, Steve said, man, I don't know what, what this shirt mean? Or what you doing, man, but man, this thing has caused so many problems. Guys are mad, man, you just got to come and get this shirt. I'm laughing here, man. And I'm laughing the shit because I know, you know, what it is, but they don't really know. That's just like you said, being tapped in with the streets and then still loving the music. So got the shirt, put that away. And it was like, I think that's how me and Steve kind of became like cool or whatever, let him know. And shit, I met easy, he had a box of records.

14:15I'll never forget a box of records. And I think the A side of the records was fat girls on my jock. And the B side was boys in the hood. Yeah, damn. And then I think they had Panic Zone. Yeah, Panic Zone. I don't remember. I don't know. I don't know. Panic Zone. You know that fast, fast shit or whatever. But the records was so fresh and new when we they had, it was like black and white like your paper. Yeah, yeah. Straight in the box. And I was like, man, you know, something something I get down and listen to that easy E. And man, he was cool, man, easy. Oh, he's been cool. He had. He just tapped in. I don't know. He just took a liking to us. Yeah. So that's how I kind of became friends and meeting easy and then introducing easy to quick. Quick and tell you all the time when you start drinking and smoking. How are you seeing you to introduce me to easy? Yeah. Like, that's just my nigga. He cool. It's fun. Yeah. So it just took it from there. Didn't, you know me and Tom met there, of course, and shit. And I was like, man, Tom was just cold on the turntables and knew his shit. And I was sitting there when they was doing them fucking mixed tapes. And honestly, I'll leave and go get what's the hamburger to pass.

15:16And we must have. Tom's burgers right there. I'll go to Tom's burger. Right. Because then mother fuckers being there. Yeah. You seem like they'd be in there for 24 hours. Yeah. Take this part back. Dude, this part. I'm like, God damn. I see we want you to rap right here. All right, my fuck. I'm ready. Like, what? No, do this. He'll tell you. But they put a lot of work in on the shit, bro. And it just really, really. You can tell you. Like later on right then when you're doing it, you don't really care about the shit. Yeah, you're not thinking about that. Later on, man, when I really knew that shit was really dope, when I saw, I think it was DJ Scratch, right? When we was out of town, DJ Scratch heard one of his tapes and was like, what? Because you know Scratch Scratch, you're a fucking killer on the sassant on the turntables. Scratch was like, man, how the fuck did you? And he was just sitting there because we was on the turntables. And he was like, man, how the fuck did you? And he was just sitting there because we was on the road. It was me and him, Gangstar. He was cool. I think Spade pulled up on the Smiths, Massachusetts, Spade, right?

16:17Yeah. Two short and EPMD. Well, that's a quick second and that or whatever. So he heard Tom Tateman and I never forget. He was like, man, what? So why? You can tell. Well, what it was, I believe this was at the palladium in Houston, Texas. And he heard one of my mixed tapes. And I'll be honest, you, at that time, you know, be, you think you've arrived, you think you're dope on the turntables. But when I saw Scratch warming up, I was like, okay, let me take a step back. Yeah. Because he was doing stuff that I have never seen. But he gave me my flowers and told me, man, I never heard shit like that before. You want to know something, you know, and, and, and, and less could probably chime in on this as well. I think a lot of the East Coast cats didn't know how our DJs got down down here. You know, because it was very much one thing until hip hop kind of took over and there became hip hop DJs. Yeah. Because a lot of a lot of our guys were playing freestyle and and shit like this, right?

17:18Right. Yep. And, you know, when, when motherfucker started developing the skills out here, I don't think the East Coast guys were paying attention to what was happening here. And, you know, it was happening here until they would come down and see it and hear it for themselves. And, you know, because it's two different styles, like I remember back early days, it wasn't necessarily about how crazy the scratches were and the tracks weren't fast. It was about the mix. Yep. And how creative the blend in mix could be in New York, whereas out here our guys focused on speed and the scratch in like in a different way. And I think both of y'all probably like odd each other in that regard. Absolutely. You know, if I'm sure a quick story and I know Cycle S may want to chime in on this one, it was 2006, the MySpace Days. Yeah. DJ Thorough reaches out to me from Harlem. And he goes, hey, are you Tony A. The Wizard? And I said, yeah. And then he goes like, are you the one who did 88 Booming Bays? That was like my most famous mix tape that I did in 1988.

18:19And I said, yeah, I did that. He goes, oh, but you're not black. And I was like, yeah, I know that. You know, no, I just never seen who it was. He goes, but I just want to tell you you and DJ red alert or why I am DJ today. And I said, really? So I kind of didn't believe him to be honest, because I'm DJing for a lot of the guys from Wu Tang. I'll be at the house of losing Hollywood. Why don't you come through? I'll introduce you to him. I didn't believe him. I drove out there. I met Rekwon and all the other guys and it was. He was, he was for real. It was for real, but also I was just blessed enough to hear that story that somebody who lived in New York that said that I inspired him to do what he did. Seeing that's awesome. Because I mean, for so long, we were looking at what New York was doing and trying to emulate that. Yeah. You know, and I mean, you know, it's still sharpened steel as they say. You know, so you know, every now and then when someone's doing something, you know, exceptional, you can't help but to give flowers.

19:21Right. And just for those who are wondering what rodeo is and unless, you know, just in case you don't know, it's the equivalent of a flea market. We call them swap meets, but they're like flea markets. And in the rodeo was one of the spots where you got all the fucking dope mixed tapes here in Southern California. There's also the comp to swap me that did this. They had a section as well, but rodeo was more popular for it. And a lot of motherfuckers would go to the rodeo like to pop off their mixed tapes there or to buy the mixed tapes. A lot of DJ quicks mixed tapes came through their yours. DJ rectangle yours independently of all that. And a lot of classic shit. I mean, easy would go drop off shit there as as he was saying. And comp just swap me and rodeo more the two places. Yeah. I mean, back in the days when we came out here early 90s, they was taking us. They was taking you there, right?

20:21Yeah, we was over there. That's cool. Yeah. We was, you know, literally these shirts all kind of shit. Yeah. A lot of things, you know, moving over this. I shit, I live like right around the corner from the rodeo for a good time. I guess we were making the first Cypress Hill demos. I was living on 160 second in Vaness and these apartments right there. I was right around the corner. Right there. Like me, this is who I met there at the rodeo. I met Dr. Dre easy, easy, or jinx the same day. That's a 1987. Then I met Mr. Cartoon who was riding back up Steve Yarno. Yeah. And he was just a teenager. I met him there. I met Violet Brown there. And that's when we became longtime friends. Yeah. Violet Brown. Violet Brown was the one that introduced me over there. Violet. Yeah, she's solid. Super solid. Yeah, because it's like a, it was one of those landmarks for LA hip hop. You know what I mean? And if anyone that came from New York, anyone that wanted them to have that experience would take them over to the road.

21:25I mean, or Compton, which was a little bit more treacherous. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I used to work at the fucking Compton swap me to one of them boosh. Crawlwork for these Korean homies selling fucking selling shit. Yeah. And these Krip motherfuckers that do who I wasn't where I was from came upon me, right? And they were like, yeah, we know who you are. We going wait for you. I'm like, all right, you go ahead and keep waiting motherfucker. And I had some form. Yeah. But what these guys didn't expect, right? Is that I knew this homie from Grape Street Watts back in the day. It was, you know, obviously banging on the other side, but him and I were cool as fuck. And he was like, a no G down there. If I'm not mistaken, his name was Bigfoot. Yeah. And we used to buy bags of weed and other shit off of, you know, I'm Bigfoot back in the day. And he just happened to roll up this day and come across me in the booth.

22:28And he saw all the wolves that were, yeah, that were coming through and he told them off because, hey, y'all fuck with this dude, y'all fucking with me. Yeah. And I'm deeper than y'all right now because he was. And they all fucked off and they said, okay, maybe we going to get you ready. Yeah. And we get to the parking lot. But that shit was always wowed over there because on loan beach, you going that side of the loan. Oh, man. It was the crypts and then right behind the, it was the blood. Yeah, it was the mob and all of them like, yeah, my pie, so it's always been a little mix up. Yeah. It's tricky. It was the place that was the middle ground. And if you got caught up in there, boy, it was, it was chicken. Cheekos pizza. And I remember seeing, yeah, I remember, I remember seeing this dude coming in this dude coming fresh. He had like, I could tell you exactly what he was wearing. He was wearing the powder blue quarter Roy's ice cold. Damn. Fila shoes to match. He had the Fila top Jerry curl just brand newly whipped.

23:29Leaking everywhere. Leaking everywhere. He comes in there. He tries to steal a bag of white t-shirts. You know what I mean? They catch him. He runs out. He runs out into the parking lot. The securities catch him and they drag his ass back through the parking lot. All his shit was unwrap. He had oil stains all of them nice quarter Roy's that white Fila fucking sweater was all fucked up. All for a pack of white t-shirts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah people would take their chances back. That was the gang of Pearl, not the gang of prying. Yeah, it kind of was. The street of peril when you go to the swap means you got to get the boxers. Yeah, you got to get to slay shots. You got to get the white beaters and the white beaters. You got to get the white t's. Yeah, in the socks. Yeah. I mean back back in the days, I was kind of a thing, man, in stores. If you was a cool shoplifting, the fucking beach ass. That's when they got guards in the front with sticks, though. I got to tell you to come to swap me securities where active.

24:31Yeah, because they were constantly having to deal with fools. I mean, I worked there for a good year before I got, you know, before I said, fuck this shit, I'm out of here because now too many motherfuckers know where I'm at. Did you mention the jerk, or I got to bring his up because when he first came to my pad, he had the dukey braids, the turkeys chain, and I'm like, fuck, this guy's just like exactly what you would imagine a Compton homie would look like. Yeah, yeah. Well, I had the Jerry curl for sure. Yeah, and the white Elko, when I was standing in the back. Yeah. He had his own in this shit. Yeah, but we had a really, really good time. I remember when he first came over to the crib, he was wrapping over. As a matter of fact, it was the bottom beat that Mellow used for delicious vinyl, Must-Being-Gone, which I taught to me. To me, still a class. Still a class. Yeah. I had him wrapped to it because that was a Mellow inspired. Yeah. And I had the ultimate breaks and beats. I mean, I had him wrapped into house music to R&B to see where we could find him. Right. You know, and then the pocket. Yes.

25:31Yes. I think it's great when you do shit like that because not only like, do you find the pocket that you're in, but you kind of learn to adapt being you did all these different landscapes. You know what I mean? I think that does wonders for a motherfucker that writes. Yeah. And just finding different styles within the musical landscapes. Yeah. You know, when you just stick to one thing and someone gives you something different, you don't know how to attack it. You don't know how to get it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, fuck, what do I do with this? How do I? But when you have a steady diet of just doing, trying to do different shit, what you end up doing may be different than any of those things, but it gives you a different skill set and point of view on how to attack certain shit. Yeah. And that's great. So I think it's kind of funny to be right off the top like big pimping. Right. You know what I'm saying? When you hear pimping on there, it's kind of, you know, smoking out, holding up, feeling up in my cousin. Right. But it's his shit. So it's like, I love the shit. You know what I'm saying?

26:31You know, bun, bun, but rapping motherfucker, bun. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So bun, he did this shit and he was on there doing it a certain way. So it's like like B said, it's your timing. And I don't want to be too critical on certain motherfuckers of the new, I don't want to sound like the old man. Get off my line, type of motherfucker. But I want to just make it right, bro. I just want it to be in time. I don't want you to say, something's sitting up here smoking weed, drinking, and I'm the brand cup. Nigga, that shit don't fit. Yeah. Amen. You said it all right now. You said it all right now because that's one of my biggest pet peeves, right? It's like, man. When they're not on beat. Yeah. When the cadence ain't on beat. You're trying to tell me that that's a style. Fuck you. You can't rap. Especially when they're ahead. Oh, dude. As a DJ, I always want to tap the record. Hey, listen. I could be more tolerable of the motherfuckers that are behind. Yeah, but ones that are in front, stop rapping.

27:32Right. Dude, do the exact opposite of what two shorts says. He says keep rapping. But I say, if you're off beat and ahead, stop rapping. Reevaluate. Maybe this ain't your thing. Yeah. It could be your thing. No. Right. But if you're still doing that after years when you got so many examples of motherfuckers that rap on beat. Yes. Like, what are you doing? Either you are off beat, motherfucker. Like, you got no rhythm, no, no, no idea of where the pockets are. Or you're just being stubborn. You know what it is, too? Like, we all used to be DJs. So we learned how to be on beat and a lot of these cats don't know nothing about a beat or staying on beat. Right. Yeah, but not all rap words. It's not all rappers were DJs, but they still keep the fucking beat. Right. It's like, you know, it's because those guys don't skip steps. They learn what the craft is. They learned what it's supposed to be.

28:33How you're supposed to sound even when it's you. Like you coming out with your shit. And one thing that none of us do on purpose is be off beat. Right. Yeah, man. In the way that some people are. Yeah, dude, it's so frustrating. And then for them to just say it's a style. It's not a style. It's like, no, dude. No, okay. I could rap off beat on purpose if I wanted to. Right. Yeah. It's just like, ah. My mentality won't let me. Yeah. What are we going to say, Tom? Okay, B. You can name the DJ that was always off beat, but it worked. Eric B. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It worked. Yes. It fits that style. And you think about it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he wasn't the most crazy as DJ, but what he did worked. Yes. There's a couple DJs like that. He's not the only one. I believe Terminator X. Okay. Also. Yeah, he had an X had a, he was in the pocket. He was in the pocket a little bit.

29:33And it was always chaotic, just like little clips of chaos here. Yeah. And it was pretty great. It's the mind is I'm going to take you back a little bit. So see, my name is the know it. We all the same age and shit. Yeah. But like, at the time when we hear Scratch and we was just so ready to hit, that was like music for our ears. I was like, Eric Candy, but go back to like, ah, Malcolm, my clarin. Oh, yeah. Malcolm, my job. Some of it. It's real simple. It's real simple. Like some of us off super, off super off. Yeah. And we're like, but we look, that shit was so dope. That's because we want to hear this, you know, even even if the Scratch was wack, it was still an element. An element. Yeah. We needed it in a song that is a, it's a, it's a, it made a big difference. When the first Scratches came, right? And the other DJs were trying to emulate what they just heard on a record, or they heard it at the party. Not all of them had it on beat in the beginning. You know what I mean? They had to learn this skill set. It's a new, it's a new art, right?

30:33And a new get down and like, how do I figure this shit out? If you knew you knew, if you did it, you had to learn to figure it out. Yeah. And some guys got timing and some guys never got it. And you hear this in the early stages, like some Scratches are totally on beat. Some are off. Some of the ones that are off actually worked. Yeah. You know what I mean? And some of them did not. Yeah. But you know, that's the thing. It's like you said, when we heard it for the first time, we were fucking geeked on it. Like I need to hear more of this with the fuck is that? How would they do in that? Right. Like, you know, like when you said every B, you know, it cuts my B-Wack, but it was just that. It worked. It worked. It worked. I mean, as an advanced DJ now, you would say, oh man, that shit was basic. Like put it to this work. But in that time, it was everything. It was everything. Put it to this way. If you took those Scratches out, that song probably wouldn't be the same.

31:34Same. Right. Eric B for president. No, he has a whole story. Those were iconic. Yes, I can't. They weren't the best, but iconic. You know what B? I'm going to, let's talk about a little bit of different Scratchy. Now, give an example. I had an opportunity to do any of you DJ Melody from the beat John Salute. Okay. What about L.O.? And we were talking, and then I said the first time that I ever saw people dancing to Scratchy, because back then everything was just battle to me. Right. But it was DJ, please. The request line. The request line. On the request line. Here's some Scratchy from the Rock Master Scott. And then I was at the club, and people were dancing to him like, quick, quick, quick, quick, quick. And I was like, wow, this is possible. You can actually scratch and keep people dancing. And the first person that I ever saw do that in person was DJ Jo Kooly. You know what's crazy? Yeah. Joke Kooly made it beyond a Scratch. He made it an instrument. Yeah. The way he got that in, because now the turntable is an instrument. Yes.

32:34Yeah. I mean, it straight up became an instrument. It's not just something that makes these crazy sounds that we like. It's also the instrument. Like progression, like, it's an extra percussion. Yeah. Like, the way he did those, the rhythmic cuts on Kooly high. Yeah. Do out the whole verse. That. That right there. That. Yeah. That's it. And dude, that's still some of the most innovative shit I've ever heard. Totally. Let me ask you this. There was a battle Joke Kooly had with what East Coast dude. I think it was, uh, Cash Money. Cash Money. Who do you take, got it? Joe. Yeah. I'm going to be on a few. Cash Money. Yeah. David Cash Money. That even cash money thought Joke Kooly got. Look, that belt, I'm going to say this because I interviewed Joe. And we talked about that. And he told me some stuff off air. But to me, that title belongs on the West Coast. And that belt, because there was a championship belt belongs in comp. And I thought he won hands a lot of people thought he won. Yeah. And you know, they, they were just favoring Cash. But I'll tell you what Cash Money just did. Um, they honored him.

33:34Sweat Tech. And I heard he tore it up. He tore it up. Oh, fuck off. So clean dude. Clean. And, and, and that's what I expect. Because I mean, when I, when I hear you DJ, your fucking clean is fucking. Thank you. You're still killing it. Tony G. Kill it easy. Bullio G. Kill it. Yeah. And, and guys from our time like that and slightly older, because Cash Money is older than we are. Yeah. Kill it. Yeah. Still because. Still battle cat too. Yeah, battle cat. Uh, jazzy Jeff. Oh, Jeff is crazy. I never knew Jeff was that from doing, you know, the, you know, the, you know, the world ain't nothing. But trouble you thinking like, okay, they're just doing like some magic. No. No, he's badass. And, and, and it's great when you see these guys at the age of 60, killing it still like no, like just better even, you know what I mean? Like they know all what they know and all the DJs that are behind them were inspired by some of the shit they did so they could do all those moves. They could do it at a time where the technology didn't exist.

34:37Right. And they have the flip vinyls to do the crazy shit where, you know, we, as DJs today, just push it buttons to like, imagine to make it all faster. Yeah. We're still doing what we're doing. Yeah. There's still takes short cuts. There's still techniques and skill sets that have to be there for you to be a good DJ. But we can shortcut a lot of the shit. These guys were doing this crazy shit we see now without the shortcuts. Yeah. So imagine how dope they are. Right. Knowing now with the shortcuts. Yes. And like mixed master mic, for instance, when you see him flip on one of these new rigs, I mean, you think about he comes from, from the old school shit where it's vinyls and needles and techniques, no digital action. And he could do all that with that. So coming into this, it's a new toy. I like it. I'm going to figure all this shit out like this game. And when you see these guys flipping how they use the technology, it's ridiculous.

35:41Always say they're cheating and shit. It's kind of it's kind of cheating. It be I used to go. I had, I found that he had hustled up to get two techniques to twelve hundreds, right? Yeah. So the whole shit DJ and it's just like kind of levitating Tony's hands like see my y'all can have that shit is like, and you're being a hood too. So you got to bring your big ass speakers. You had 15, 20 crazy motherfucking records worried about if they get more. Or stolen. But let me tell you something better than that. If they get what you can't leave them in the sun. Yeah, no. Every time you go to a house party, what happened in our house party is back in the 80s? Somebody's drink it and fucking spills. I have to shoot and so am I going to stay here with my equipment or I'm going to duck and get out the fucking way and save my life. And you have to come back and get your equipment the next day. Couple bully holes in the motherfucking like, no, I'm too skinny back then. I was super sky carrying all this fuck this shit. It was just different man.

36:42And you didn't have like you said, you didn't have no, you just had the note of records. Yes. I'm saying if you've got plenty of rock on, you're not about to put on some other, I want to sex you up. You can't put that on the next type of shit. Right. You know what I'm saying? So you have to really see mine is no, you got to know these records. You got to know the right. And they know like, oh, I'ma go through my computer. Oh, I'ma look at the BPM. Oh, this is close. And BPM's dead. If y'all motherfuckers don't know that thing. God damn, like these. Stop right there. But the beats per minute. Yes. Yes. You know, the timing is shit. So you look at now the songs, you know, you can go on a computer now and just look at the speed of the song and say, oh, okay, I can mix this with that. Right. Oh, it makes it so much easier like that. Way to do. You know, the cutting the corner shortcut, we call it shortcut. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But you could do that. And let's just say you're a DJ that comes with Tony skillset that learned on the vinyl less as well and C minus as well. Now you got this gadget that you could fucking do the crazy thing that would have, that would

37:45have, you would have had to work the move out like how you fucking do this and then flip that record and put the next one on and have the wherewithal to know what records coming next. Absolutely. Now they don't got to do that, which is awesome. Because to me, when they asked me to come DJ a spot, right, I love the fact that I don't got to get a crate. I made the crate before I even got, like I put it in my folder and I may not even go by that folder, but the idea of it is there, right? Because usually I freestyle everything I do in terms of turntable work. Yeah. Not necessarily rhymes because I, you know, I'm good and bad at freestyle. Sometimes I'm good. Other times maybe not. But with the, with the, with DJ in somewhere, I never get married to a, a, a set list or, or a crate because you know what happens, right? Yeah. If you're coming after somebody, you might have the guy that got no etiquette and gasses

38:46all the fucking right now records. And if that's on your shit, you're like, oh, fuck, what do I do now? Exactly. And I'm going to listen, make sure that I don't play nothing they play. And just to be like on some Bruce Lee shit, just go with the flow. Don't let that shit affect you. Just go with the flow and do you and I'll find something that I didn't even put in my fucking. Oh, yeah. You know, I know me and Tony all of us here, like when we were DJing with records, like we had to develop a skill of bringing like, okay, we had the set that we were going to play. But then if someone before you plays two songs out of that set, like a, a, a, a, a, a, a, you have to adapt. You have to adapt. So you would always have these like, cause you would always, okay, this is going to be kind of the main set, but then you had these variables and you had these like, okay, I could, you know, you kind of had to do it, man. And that also taught our brain to program. And what's, what's fucked up is that you guys had to bring extra extra crates. Yeah. In case someone burned your fucking set list.

39:49Absolutely. I know. You didn't, you didn't. Best believe every DJ had a little team with them always. Yeah. No. They want a great boys. The great boys and listen. What when when I was doing the club run in DJ right? Sometimes I DJ with Fred's brother, Salam, Fred Rex Brothers, Salam. And Salam would gas every song before I went on. He knew my set with see what I was doing and fucking knock them just to test me. You know what I mean? to see what's happening. And so, Salute just a lot, because he's the one that snapped me out of like, thinking that I'm gonna go by this crate that I made. Because theoretically, we all have the same music. Right, right, right. There's a couple of things that are different, but mostly, we all have the same shit in our laptops. Absolutely. No, I mean, so I gotta assume that like whatever I think, I'll put into the world, someone's gonna catch that.

40:50It's like soup, soup said, right? Or sugar-free said one day, he said, man, don't put your thoughts out there like that, man, because you know someone, get that. Right, don't talk about it. That's shit to you. And it's real shit, because you might say something and it manifests somewhere else. Even if they hadn't heard it, just the fact that you said it. You planted that seed. So sometimes you know you're going over your shit, okay, yeah, this song, that would be dope, boom, it's going out to the world. Yeah. And so it, you know, so DJ and after guys like Salam taught me to not have a list. So that's not gonna be a good thing. Yeah, for me, it actually helped me. I could go in any situation, read the room and play to that. That's what I was just about to say, bro, the main thing to me, not the main, main thing, but up there, it's like seeing what the people do, you know, watching them on fucking room. And you could play the hottest motherfucking record,

41:51but sometimes motherfuckers is tired of hearing. I just got out my car. I just heard this record on the radio. It was on the radio. I don't want to hear that shit no more. And one night I never forget man, the same situation happened. We was, I think it was a cartoon. He was doing something for like this big party and quick was coming up the play for him. And they was playing all of the shit. So quick got out there. That motherfuckers jumped out there with the seven, seven, seven, the prince, all that shit. They killed it. They killed it. And then the nigga just, I'm looking at him, he looking at me, then he's sweet dreams are made of, dude, dude, man, a party with them motherfuckers was going up. They was like hip hop crap, but I'm talking about, he was killing it on another. He just switched the whole thing. They already burned the record. So he was like, fucking, I'm just, I'm glad you mentioned him because he's one of my favorite motherfuckers, man. He knows how to read the room. Oh, he does. And he's a fucking genius. Like on the beats and on the fucking writing song tip

42:52and on the bars. He don't get enough flowers, my man. DJ, quick. You know what being, I want to say something. Not only is that amazing for DJs to do that to be able to read the room. But when we first started performing and we were just learning, I would say, and we would all agree, we got to have at least three different shows. Let's go out there, look at the room. And let's see, which show are we going to do? Show options. That's real shit. Yeah. You have to have this mentality. You cannot go in with, this is the set we're playing. And that's the fuck with it. No, because that might not be the right set for this night. Like we do that a lot. Like we'll fucking, you know, we used to marry ourselves to a set list. And for the most part, it worked, you know, with our fan base. But then I thought, you know, it's most especially now that everybody's got their phones up at a show. So they're, you know, like they're filming your shit and then or going live, whatever. You can't do the same set list too many times.

43:54Right. Because motherfuckers, it now becomes predictable. If someone filmed it and their shit went viral, a lot of motherfuckers go what you're playing next. Right? So we got used to like, we got used to flipping our set list around and not being married to one. And more than anything, learning how to read the room, what festival are we at? How is this set gonna fuck a work in this thing? So we'll be flipping shit from one festival to another. Like what we play at a metal festival might not be what we play at a reggae festival or a radio driven festival, right? Absolutely. It's gonna be different options. Because sometimes the set you think is like the fucking killer set for any show you do might bomb in that fucking arena. No shit. Yeah. Hey, let me give you an example. Right. And normally no matter where we play, we're getting energy. But there was one reggae festival that we played.

44:58It was all possible, all positive reggae shit, you know, inspirational reggae, fight for your right reggae, type shit. And then with a mixture of cuddle reggae, cuddle reggae is, you know, the, I love you. You know, that's the, love is right. Usually you see the white cats doing the cuddle reggae stuff like that, not all of them. Some of them do some real shit, but like, you know, there's that, right? So it's a combination of cuddle reggae, romantic and you know, positive shit. Not so much dad's hall sexual shit. These are nine. Nerves. Yeah. Gregor, yeah. So here we are. The hip hop group on this shit, right? We've been slaying Europe for, you know, weeks, you know, before we got to this gig, we're seeing mosh pits and fucking stage, all this shit, right? And we get there and I look at the lineup and I always do this, you know, it's still a thing that I do today. I look at the lineup and be like, why are we here?

45:59How does that, how do we, we didn't have, we didn't do the addition. How do we make sense here? Yeah. And then, yeah, and then we go do our set. And it's that raw, raw fuck, you know, I mean, we take them on a rollercoaster ride, no doubt, but, you know, we didn't see the reaction that we were normally seeing. And that set was too aggressive for that crowd. Now, we have the laid back, you know, music that's more like hearty orientated, right? That's more easy listening that that crowd would have fucking latched on to, but we didn't play none of that shit. We were like, we're going to play this aggressive fuck you type of shit. And it, the fucking fell flat, you know what I mean? In terms of what we were normally seeing, had we plugged in and read that, that, that festival, right? And played like songs like Low Rider, the Kila Sun rise, the Lattlingo and more easier Cypress shit than the more aggressive,

47:02we hate going out like that. Bob, they would have snapped into that, but they didn't snap into the shoot them up, bang, bang, I'll kill you shit. Because this, this, this wasn't that type of party. Right. And that's when we learned to read a festival was like that particular gig. I think it was in Italy or something like that. Shit. And we're like, yeah, this seems like a lot of easy listening. Right. Like, and we're, we know we're the most aggressive on this bill. Yeah. And I know we're there to break it up, but. But I'm glad you brought that up because for this generation, this should be how would you say a lesson? Because a lot of people just said, I'm going to go do my five songs, and that's it. That's it. You know, now you need to read the crowd, man, just like the way you DJ would. Yeah, always. I'm, you know, I've told C minus this story. And I won't say the DJ, but like, you know, I've seen a great DJ crash in room because he didn't read it. He played it for himself.

48:02Yeah. This is what I think you should get. This is what I like. This is it. And that dance floor was like, part of like the Red Sea. Yeah. Then it doesn't matter how great you are. You're going to refill my brother. Yes, sir. It doesn't matter. Was it the deal? No. Every deal. No, no, no, was it the deal? He could really DJ. I thought he was the original catfish. Yeah, original catfish. I don't be talking to my mom boy. Salute to the old man. That's my guy. Yes. But yeah, man, you know, you got to learn how to read the rule. But I see a fucking great hip hop DJ just clear it. And I thought, wow, I've never seen that before. And he didn't pivot. He fucking stood his tent toes down on that ground and kept on with the exhibition style mix. Because there's an exhibition style mix that people are going to win. Ah, like, who's see what he's doing? Oh, you're out there.

49:02That there's that. But this wasn't that type of party. This is a party where chicks are dancing. Yes. They're drinking. Yeah. And they're not tripping off of your tricks. Just keep the songs moving. Hey, I swear, I didn't see shit like that. And the girls be like, my fuck a little song. But I want to shake my eyes. I don't want to. I don't want to. You can't listen at a club where people are dancing. You cannot exhibition mix. And that's like, and I should say in Tony's terms, that would be a battle mix where you're fucking stunning out. Right. You know what I mean? Doing word play shit, body tricks, and all this other shit. You don't do that at a club where chicks are dancing. Where's thing, the worst thing a DJ could do is when a crowd is dancing going off to change the song. Don't do that. I was just about to say that. If you say I'm jamming, you got to leave that shit rock. Let that shit rock. Let it ride. Let it ride. Extended mix and action. Listen, you want to hear some hardcore hip hop.

50:03You know what I'm saying? Get in your car at the end of the club. And just go, you know what I mean? No, you're at the party right club. You want the girls to dance. That's it. I mean, if it's not that kind of party and it's an exhibition, then you show up. Maybe you know what I missed though? Back in the 80s, when the song was about eight or nine minutes long. And you let that hold down record play because people were freaking each other like there was no tomorrow. Like atomic dog. Yeah. Oh yeah. Atomic dog. There was also low dance reasons. White pony. White horse. White horse. White horse. Made back. Oh man. What about that? That was the funny rock. Hey, listen, out here on the West Coast, the fucking white horse joint was the freak nasty song. This is that was the time you got close. Yeah. It was at the beat itself is pretty fucking neurotic. Yes. What the hell speed to it? No, no, no, no. You're talking about white horse. But made back. You won't play back it.

51:03Yeah. If you want to ride, yes. Like a house, house of joint. No, not that original beat. That original beat. Yeah, we didn't see it like that over here. Yeah. Look at it in his house. Because he was like, hell out of your girl. Oh yeah. It was a freak song. It was a freak song. I don't know if in New York the freak existed, but it existed here on the West Coast. And when those songs like that came on, atomic dog, or fucking laid backs, white horse, the freak shit's dog. Yeah. You can have a girl on front of you, a girl on back of you, or you can be one girl with two dudes. Yeah. It was pretty, it was pretty freaky dog. That was it. Dry hump. Dry hump on the dance floor with rhythm. Yeah. It's a rhythmic dry hump. Sweaty as hell. Yeah. A rhythmic dry hump. I'm surprised they have it caught on to that. Because you know, they always bring back some sort of dance. That's true. Or they might take an old dance and revamp it and call it some new shit. Yeah. Right. I'm surprised that one they came back. Yeah.

52:03Do just to walk out of the party or the club. Sweaty as hell. I think it just came out of Zumba. And some other freakers would have to crouch walking out. Yeah. They couldn't control their peace. They've said, oh man, because they have a hot chick grinding on. They fucking. I remember that. Bullsack. See, I'm telling my age, it wasn't middle school. It was junior high school. And when you say, have the dances and shit, man, you would start them all fucking fire. He was grinding on them. Girls so hard. And the teacher come back up a little bit. And we like, what the fuck? And before we hear it, we're in gray sweats. I'm on black. Oh, man. And the girls, you were some other fucker if you wore sweats. On the dance, I used to wear sweats on purpose. That's like going to the strip club and sweats. Yeah, exactly. And on purpose. And no drawers. No drawers. No drawers. We're the condom on. Just a good guy. Yeah, yeah. Already pre-strap. Pre-strap. Condom on already.

53:04Hey. Let me ask you all this. And I mean, I know the answer to it kind of, but for these folks out here, like, you know, doing that work 35 years ago. And I know this has an artist. We don't think about 35 years down the line. We're thinking about like the right now and where we're going, where we're trying to take it. But looking back now, you know, does it, does it trip you out? Did it 35 years of work that still stands strong? Yeah. Two days you could play that shit anywhere. And motherfuckers ain't going to be like, hey, next. Yeah. That they're riding to it as it's a play. I'm going to tell you why you traced me out the most. And I'm sure Crawford has his own story is because when we were doing those songs, they were just for mixed tapes to sell at the SWAT meet. So really? Yes. That was it. So when they came looking for at the SWAT meet that they wanted to sign us, I was like, fine, what? All these two songs. Who's the rapper? Well, that's high C. Where is he at?

54:06He's back there. Take me to him. You know, and Disney just opened up a record label Hollywood records. They want to find us. Yeah. Yes. Bunky Client. Casualty. Hello, Richard. Casualty. Who was that rockberry? Yeah. There was a bunch of people there and Rachel Matthews, Jim Artone, Peter Patrano, was president. Right. We met with Michael Eisner. And I remember some of our songs, one song is called Yo Dick. It was one verse. The other one was called Tweta Time. You know what that is? And then the other one's Froggy style. And he's looking at us and he goes, do you guys actually do this? Yeah. I mean, because it was a Disney label. Yeah. I'm like, why not the fuck? Yeah, I know what y'all are getting into. Yeah. Yeah, signing us. Yeah, I'm going to get the whole shit. Y'all know where we from. Yeah, I'm like stupid. Hey, you know what's crazy? Did you say that is that we had money being here not long ago. Yeah. And money being was also signed to Hollywood Basic. And you know, Rob Fusion. Yeah, their story was like that same thing. Is it like they kept, Hollywood Basic kept on trying to get them to make different records

55:11when they knew what they were signing the first place, freaks of the industry. Yeah. You know what I mean? So, he was coming with that more adult-based rap shit, you know, like too short. Already? Of the Luke and all of them that were doing that shit. It was in that vein. And Hollywood Basic could not get down with that because of the Disney aspect. So you guys are saying you had that same issue, right? So when we were going through signing, you know, sending our demos there because Funky Klein wanted to do that. I had it, y'all. Shit, bro. I was going to name y'all. Bro, I was like, you know, shit, I voiced like the hot like I'm like that big is dope. I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah, I do. Thank you. I don't know where he got the beat. Let me take away. We had a glossy. Signed by all of you guys and I was like, where in the hell did you get that? Yeah. I wanted one of those. I was on y'all shit way before it was y'all. They had a chance to get douse effect. That's right. But I'm going to rewind the bound to give you a little nugget. We was on Hollywood records. Yeah.

56:11And they can't hide that shit because we still got Hollywood records. Yeah. And when they heard us talking all this shit and this and that because we did the same quick second and a us, like we said, saying shit, we doing party music, but we from the neighborhood. Right. I was aggressive. It was too. So the Hollywood record logo, the actual Hollywood record logo, we were signed a Hollywood record. Yeah. When all that shit happened and all the confusion be, that's when you flip to Hollywood bass Hollywood basic. Yeah. So they tried to they tried to clean it up. Every time I complain, they date, I'm going to be real now. I'm going to be real. I'm going to be real. I'm going to be real now. They gave a nigga a check. They'll give us a go to go to Hawaii. Remember, we went to Hawaii. We got boy. We can. We're playing like, look, look, I want my shit to be just like what I put on the paper. This is, well, can you change, you know, this and that? Like, I could do a radio edit, but I can't be, you know, changing shit to make it not be who you are. Yeah. Yeah. They was, they was like, they was freaked out about that shit.

57:12Oh, yeah. I mean, why did you sign? Y'all want to be in this shit so bad? They saw the potential. Like you said earlier, about the hip hop and the genre that's just, they saw it. They didn't think about the content of the people who they were signing, right? Because I know they did that with us at Hollywood Basic. They're like, this weed shit, you know, like we don't understand that. Can you send us more music? We sent them damn near half the album. You know, like, try to try. I was in there boogie and all that shit. Yeah. It's not a lie. It's sent, you know, I know that's real. Send dog is the one who got fed up with that shit. Even though we loved funky climbing casual tea and everybody that was there, we were like, we got to go with rough house. I'm not going to give them any, we shouldn't give them any more demos. They got to have to fucking album if they can't sign us based off that. And they're constantly asking us to change our shit and we're going to change it. Yes. So we're like, well, you know, guess not. They were asking us. Thank God you went. Yeah. Right.

58:12Rough house. Soldies. They were asking us to change the lyrics. And I remember Rachel Matthew. She's reading me his lyrics. Oh shit. And she goes right here. He says, finger back the koochi get the neck fully hikis. And I was like, okay, right here. The girl told me she loved me. She thought I was cute. But all I thought about was knocking the boots. Can you just change that? I'm like, you got to talk to him. Yeah. Because she looked at it like it was misogynistic, right? Yeah. And she wasn't tripping. It wasn't her. It's the guy. It's Eisner. Eisner was the big motherfucker, bro. And I heard that his kids, you know, our kids, like the fuck what they dad's, they said his kids was fans of ours just to kind of egg us on to like give their dad a hard time. Because what I heard was they was getting fucking hate male, like Disney eternal in this grave. If he heard that you was promoting with two at a time, they made me change that, though. Because me and KK went back and forth on there. We talked about flipping the girl and talking about this and bitching. Plus we got her legs and her arms, nothing in her box, whatever we were doing. They was like, and I was like, all right, fuck it.

59:14That one is kind of like to be on Disney. I will do some with that. Yeah. I mean, it was the brand back then, right? Yeah. But today, I bet you money, they would put it out there. And you know what's funny? The dirtiest songs were loved by the girls the most. The girls, yeah. Of course. They love the girls. You should look who got the game with the dirt. The girls. The girl. Got the dirty game right now, tell them. Like you know, they don't Uncle Luke had it for so many years and two short, two short. I mean, he could still have it because it's two short. Yeah. But the chicks are doing the raunchy shit right now. Oh, OK. If I'm correct, the resequis. The resequis. That's the first banish raunch in history of rap music. I girls, I was like, you got no less lyric? Like they knew everything. Hey, that surprised the shit out of me. Because like, you know, like at shade 45, you know, we asked people what's their favorite shit. I don't know how it was the topic, but favorite songs

1:00:15that people wouldn't think, right? Some shit like that. Like not a single, but like an album cut, obscure type shit. And we had people calling us up, oh, man, Thresakis. And I'm like, oh, shit. Yes. Thresakis, huh? Yes. And then I went back and listened to it and that beat is slapping. And then you know, when you think about it, send dog did it two short in Spanish. You know, it's a dirty ass rap in Spanish. That's why I sent dog don't like to perform it. Because he's like thinking about the things he was saying in that it was like, oh, hell no. I don't want to say that. But we'll make his ass do it. No, but it's a bag of salt. But we all knew it in the hood and all the girls knew the lyrics. Yeah. There's a bunch of jajamas. You know, I was like, what the fuck? All right. So less like like back over there, they had an ock and yelling shit. And I heard every motherfucking by everywhere I went. Put it in your mouth. Yeah. Your motherfucking mouth.

1:01:15Like they was just certain songs no matter what the fuck going on. Like you said, just. Oh, yeah. It's just that shit. You can't deny it. It was a funky beat too. Yeah. Hey, those were those were fucking, you know, ice cold lyrics. What do you choose to lick pussy dick? I mean, that's a canada, you know? I do, but he said he said I do like her being hand you a cock. Yeah. Codibles. Yeah, like he, he busting and still making that shit. It's a dope. Fuck this is so fast. And girls and girls will say that part. Yeah, love it. They love it, especially remember slow motion for me. Slow motion. Oh, yeah. Oh, that was a great song. Oh, they love it. They was, that was a great song. Yes, they were. Juvie hit one on that one. Yes, it was. But that motherfucking back that ass up beat. I'm standing. We doing shows up. They are push you out of them girls with the asses. They will push you out the way. That's they they motherfucking. And that's the shit signal. Yeah.

1:02:16When they hear that. The signal. The they like this like move out the way. Why? They be trying to get to this. That I'm working with. Imagine you're bad. Yeah. I'm like that mother fucking dog whistle. Oh, man. They keep doing that. They got to they got to out drop each other. Yeah, right. Like who's dropping it the best? Yeah. Yeah, you know, I mean, so lute to the drop squads out there. Yeah, dropping like a, like it's fucking hot. Let's make one of them records, man. Can we make a new one? If you watch it up, down. Are you crazy? No, that's be some shit like that. It's yes before you ask. No, you know, you're okay. Two scandals. No, but the two scandals are scandals on quick. I'm about to bust a nut on your little baby. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. So, you know, some of our lyrics are very prolific. I grow up here. I play that shit some time. And they'd be like, do this. It's like, nah, I can't do that one. I mean, I think any of us that do this rap shit, you know, there's probably a small percentage

1:03:18that they'll hear some shit that would be cringe to anybody else at this point. They're being glad, whatever. I could live with that. And then some of us that listen to our lyrics and be like, yeah, me. That's me. I'm like, no, I'm not going to win a different way on this. See, to me, when he tells me, that's me. And I'm like, nah, I'm going to do that shit. Yeah. I'm the one I like it. Damn. That's like it. Hey, but listen, there's a lane for it. My testosterone was high back then. My test was through the room. No, but hey, listen. The wind was blowing. I got up. For this hip hop shit, there's so many different lanes for things like that to exist. Like you have your conscious lane, conscious lane, where you know, rock him, KRS 1, public enemy, and all those guys that created that lane existed, right? Then you got the party lane, like you know, which was kid and play and guys like that big daddy came, but who could wrap his ass off the party lane? And then you had the gangster lane, you know, and we all know where that comes from, right?

1:04:24And then the massage and this dick, lose your mind, be slutty, promiscuous lane, you know what I'm saying? Man or a woman. You do, bro. You all things. Because it's like there's so many different lanes, so many different fucking vibes in this hip hop shit that those lanes could exist. Yeah. Shock wrap, which is a hybrid of all of them. Oh, yeah. And then you know, so many subgenres that exist now that never existed. So that shit goes, I mean, like you said, the chicks are living in that lane right now. Yeah. Most of them that are like really pop it it off are living in that lane. Yeah. There's some out there that are, you know, they've broken out of that lane and they are on some real wrap shit, like doji, doji cat, people like that. Right. They're killing it. They could do that. But they don't necessarily lean on that. They're talking about something. They got some fly ass lyrics, but a lot of the other chicks are living in that.

1:05:24They live that wrong. When you hear like when you outside or you had an event, what do you hear most? You hear most of the raunchies. You see the raunchies. Yeah. The dope is my fuck is like, I love wrap shit. You know, we, MC, so we love them all fuckers with the cadence and the sound, but the shit that actually works, they could be saying some bullshit. I'll say this, right? There's different platforms to listen to these different styles in, right? The shit that's the mindless, just party shit, that's the club, obviously. You know what I mean? You're letting go. You're not trying to be, you know, too much into your head at a club, party and dance and whatever. So that shit exists in that lane. That's why you hear a lot of that raunchy shit up in there and girls dropping it in the club when those songs go. Absolutely. When it's like the conscientious stuff, you're most likely in your car by yourself listening to that. Do they even call it dropping it anymore? I think it's something else. It's probably something else, but you know, we know it as dropping it, you know what I'm saying?

1:06:24Whatever the new term is, okay, the new term, but you know what I'm talking about. They get on the floor and they stun out. You know what it is, too? Like you said, you recorded these songs when you was young. And your 20s probably, you know, so. Yeah, you know what those songs keep relating to teenagers like, well teenagers is still, they can relate to those songs. They can write like this, right? There's 50 year olds, they fuck with that. 40 year olds, they fuck with that. 30 year olds, they fuck with that. And now the 20 year olds definitely fuck with that because they are flooded with shit like that. Yeah, exactly. They relate. Yes, you know? Yes, they could totally relate to it. You don't have to know that that way. No, they were just in San Diego and you pulled them 20 years up on stage. They were dead. Then you all are lyrics and I'm like, that's what I was about to say. That's great. I got a sidetrack, but to see them all fucking singing the lyrics on shit that I know like. His way older than that. Yeah. Yeah.

1:07:24Like like quick did just because I didn't say that I wanted to fuck. Don't mean that I don't want to. I'm looking at this young girl like you how no fuck do you know? You and born when this song came out, but she's singing it. I'm not going to worry for where just because I didn't say it. I'm like, what? Because that's the music that they've been growing up to. They are. Or they might be a my uncle put me on a my mom's. That someone said my dad. And then and then it locks in to with what they're listening to today with some of the the rancher your shit. You know, I'm saying so it locks right in. It's right in that. That group that they could fuck with it. Yeah. And they'll party to that shit. You know, I'm saying. Absolutely. But music is universal. They go anywhere to anyone. And as much as we might like hear ourselves and be like damn, I can't believe I fucking said that exactly. It still connects. It's still connects. I have a feel bad. It may not. Listen, it may not connect with you at this point. But it's a little bit. Let's say that it goes to the 1890 year old. Yeah, never feel bad because those records are still working like right now.

1:08:27That part, you know, that part. I mean, like, look, you know, I know that that some artists have trouble later on with shit. They said like saying it now. They'll even flip the lyrics to something more suitable to their head. Yeah. Than to say what they originally said. Some of that should sound crazy. Yes, right. And I know that MCA, Rest and Peace from the Beastie Boys had this dilemma when he became a Buddhist. A lot of the fucking, you know, original Beastie Boys shit where they're walling out and not really giving a fuck punk rocked out. He had a problem with some of those songs. And if not the songs lines in the song where it was misogynistic or his perception of violent or whatever. And he would like actively change the lyrics because he didn't want to be saying these things anymore. Right. And it's, you know, but for me, I get that part. You know, and that's the choice he makes. But some of the shit just sound crazy. Yeah, some of the shit.

1:09:27Look, look, I'm gonna get you a lyric. My first thoughts was the trip. You look so good. Yeah. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yes, big. Yeah. It's like, what? Yeah. Yeah, that used to kidnap kids. Yeah, yeah. Fucking men asked them over the bridge. Even quick said it now. He said, oh, dollars and cents. He was talking about it. We was saying, uh, some of some of you fucking cop before a bus or none. I was just shooting a piss on your face. Yeah, I never got my dick. And we looking at shit. We just start laughing like this shit. Like it didn't age well. Yeah. Somebody, but it's not it because you got, but it aged well because it's giving you a lesson of like where shit was at. Yeah, yeah. I can't stand like, pause or talking like, I don't even think about no funny shit like that. So I don't have to pause everything because I'm a pussy bandit. Yeah. Yeah. I don't pause everything. But when it sounds super crazy, that's when I laughed. Right. But some dudes are, oh, this is not pause.

1:10:27I'm gonna put it in the cup. Oh, pause, dude. It was a pause. Hey, well, like, no, I don't even think like that, bro. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you think like that, then that's a pause. There you go. There you go. That part. That part. That part. That part. That part. That part. That part. That part. That part. That part. Yeah, that was once it's like every satan's just slipped over my head. That was a pause. What was the one rubbing her ass against my button flight? I could just imagine my fucking side there every time I strike. Kedas be like that. Fucking guy. I love that. Bro, I love that. I raised my son on that shit, bro. Hey, listen, it's hard. Yeah. And this is, you know, like when we're creating it, we're in a certain space. And you know, hey, some of us may feel comfortable about what we did when we were in that space. Yeah. And some of us are totally cool with it. Right. And then some of us look at it like, well, it's fucking art. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1:11:27Yeah. So it's a combination of all three. This is where I was. Right. This is how it is. It's hard. You know what being, I got two twin grandbabies are eight years old now, but when they were in walkers, I had my turn tables in their room because they stay with me. And I was playing that song. Watch out now. And during their walkers, they're looking at me and after a while they start. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I still got footage of that, bro. Hey, man. It's great to see the music getting passed down to the younger generations. Like on this last tour that we went on, I see people bringing there like 10 and 12 year olds. And I'm like, damn, this is kind of early, but I get it. You know what I mean? They're trying to get their kids with the shit's early. Right. But this is, this is that shit. Yeah. And I'm not going to appreciate that, you know what I mean? Because that kind of, that's when your music lives forever for generations, when you're passing it down like that, to see our age group, our music getting passed down to the generations, man, that's everything.

1:12:28Because that's how, that's how we got on to some of the groups that we listened to as kids before hip hop came along, right? Absolutely. So, the parents or our older brothers or maybe our aunts, uncles, sometimes older sisters, say, be putting, put you on the gay. Look, let me tell you how, look, how high it went for us. A lot of us, back in the day, the parents, aunties, uncles come over, they drink and they smoke and they argue and you know a fight about the happy. And they call me I'm in the room. Gro, come here. What's that? Put that record on. It's Al Green. You was the mother fucking record. They didn't have no remote where you could put something on like these spoiled motherfuckers. You could do a playlist and they just play forever or something. You had to go play. I had the DJI in around when I was five or six years old. Put this record on. Turned out one over and do when they really get in. They're shit and they drunk. Let me see you do that move. You had to deal with the robot shit and dance for them. And this and this and that. So you just learned I was playing Al Green.

1:13:29I was playing Rick James, Bobby Wolle, Mag. If you think all that shit, because I was the mother fucking DJI. And then not only that, I was the remote control. We didn't have remote controls. I'm outside playing. Gro, come in here. I'm thinking something wrong. Hey, come in here. I run into the house. What's going on? Turn the TV to channel seven. I'm like, fix your skin right. Fucking there like in my mind. Turn the TV to channel seven. I'm like, fix the color. Granny, I'm like in my mind. You sitting right here. You call me, I'm having fun jumping my bike off a ramp. You call me in here like something like you bought the pass out to tell me to turn the shit to my stories about to come on. Turn the TV. And it's sitting right there with C-Minders at. No, you got young legs. I'm like, what the fuck? You got young legs. You could cut through this. Yeah. But it helped. But it helped because now I know with Rick James. I'm looking at the else, the bus to now coverage. And then we're talking about the rest of the issue. And seeing these braze and these women on these motherfuckers.

1:14:29Oh, hi, your players. You know, they always give you some high candy. And I'm like, this shit is terrible. Oh, I mean, shit. You were you were getting the education without knowing you were getting the education. And that's that's that's chowel late. What'd you call that shit? Chowel late. I was the human motherfuckin' remote, the DJ. So come change the record. Yeah, change that motherfuckin' record. Put some more. the centerpiece for the 45. Oh yeah, that's the extra. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The adapter played that. Yeah, yeah. But the adapter own first if I'm playing the 45. Yeah, yeah. I remember like that, you know, you put the record. Yeah, the records that stack on each other. Yeah, it was too high for the needle. Yeah, stack on it. Yeah, too high for the needle. Let's be honest, those were fun times, bro. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you had to be innovative and, uh, yeah. To say the least, you know what I'm saying? I didn't like those needles when you would try to play the record and it would just like get all the different then come back like, oh, man. Yeah. Thank you, my brother.

1:15:30Yeah. I can use a little refill once the techniques came 12 hundred. It was over that game right there. I don't got the shit slapped out of me trying to spend scratch it. We was talking about scratching on scratch on a grainy component set without a scratch pad. What you doing to my records? But I didn't know what the, I just wanted to hear it sound. Like, you know, with them like, not any need. I'll tear the needle. Fuck the whole shit up. We were trying to emulate what we were hearing. Yeah. We were trying to like, you know, from the East Coast. We were trying to emulate that. Yeah. You know what I mean? Grandmaster Flash on the Wizzle Stale was the first time that I ever heard scratching on a record. Yep. But the first time I ever saw scratching live, uh, was at VIP records in the city of Long Beach. Oh, shit. Kelvin Anderson was the owner, but his brother was King Tim and he was doing that. It's like, uh, I saw the record. The record, the record, the record, the record, the record. Run the MC, uh, second MC. The record MC's, I saw him for the first time. You know, and I'm a young kid. So my first question is, who taught you? I just started practicing. Yeah. But he was, he was the first DJ that I ever saw DJ or scratch

1:16:31in person. Yeah. But on record was Grandmaster Flash. And that's the record that kicked it off. I think the first DJ I saw was, was Tony G. He's a, I just saw him maybe about three weeks ago. He was rocking not only like Planet Rock, a pleasure on wrist, but he went to Forbidden Lover, Mandole, living on videos and then he went into like some new wave. And a whole hour, he just rocked it. You were there at, at that one spot where I think I DJed it and he did DJed after me. He did this mix with some shit from the 50s and a freestyle beat underneath it that was fucking ridiculous. I'm like, like, what do DJs think of that? No. Ah man. That shit was crazy the way he mixed that flip that 50 shit over the freestyle thing. Oh yeah. It was, I was like, damn, he still got that mixed mentality killing it. You know what beat, back to when I said to be great, you got to be amongst the great. You've been in my age being 58 years old.

1:17:34I don't look at myself old because I mentally and at my heart, I still feel like I'm in my 30s program. When I met Jim, I all work out my son right. He's looking, yeah, I'm working. Okay. So that's cap. Brian, tell them stop lying. But you know, the thing is learning from Joe Coley, learning from Tony G, I'm learning from the best, bro. And he me still now, I'm still learning. I mean, I see you get down. Me? Come on, man. You know, I've been blessed to be around great DJs that I could pick things up from. You know what I mean? I could not, I could never hang with any of y'all in a, in a situation. I could, I could hold mine for sure. Stop bro, stop. Stop bro, you do this guy's dope. Okay, you being humble and it's all good. Thank you. Hey, be real. Wait, no, one of y'all calling me out. So I can fuck y'all in. I'm back under the legs. Take his hat off the window and you're fucking alive. Oh, man. Oh, man. I am an enthusiast, but you know who blew my mind on the turntables, man, several fucking times in this last year was DJ Livya. Oh, yeah, she's, yeah.

1:18:35She's, yeah, from Chicago. Oh, my God, dude. Like she came in here and popped off a routine and then did one at shade four or five. It was fucking ridiculous. I didn't want to get on the turntables for a good two, three weeks after seeing that. She's the female, bro. Yeah. Yeah. Well, not me. He kind of, I think maybe I feel, I think she have Philippine way. I think so. Yeah. She's, I think she just just turned 18. Yes. She's been DJed since she was 13 or 12. Amazing. Oh, man. She's amazing. Yeah. She's one of the sickest turntables out there right now. Or woman. Yeah. Like she will chop her head off or roba. Yeah. Yeah. She's because it's so effortless. You know, she's been doing it for so long and then she just, it's just so fluid. She's, you know, DJ's got tag lines. You know, like they'll, they'll, they'll have a little sound bite the girl. Oh, they'll do it. There's that. Her's is DJ Livya. Livya Livya. She makes other DJ's practice. Yeah. And that's where the God, bro. And this is the truth because like, hey, listen, you know, I was confident about what

1:19:39I was doing. And that's all that shit. I'm like, you know what? I'm a practice for a while. But I get back on these fucking turntables because God damn. She made it look so easy. And I know that she was creating it right there. Like it was not like, she wasn't sprightening at all. She was cooking it right there. You know, be not this year or, but the following year, did you, didn't you do a set at the NAMM? At the, yeah, it did. That's one thing that a lot of people don't talk about the NAMM. That's a great networking spot. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. People were surprised I got up there because, you know, I hadn't been to NAMM in a while, but like most especially not God enough in DJ in front of all those great DJs before. Yes. It was a lot of pressure because I'm like, oh shit. Here's a lot of muffler because I learned from and some that are like barely catching on that I've been a DJ for a while or been DJ for a while. And yeah, fortunately it all ended up kind of clean. I didn't try to do too much. It was fun though, you know, but a lot of pressure having like guys like Melody and Repmatic

1:20:44and Baboo right there. Yeah. See you, sir. Yes. Mr. Chalk watching me. I felt like I was in the dojo fucking testing for my brown belt. You know what I mean? Exactly. Crawford, you got to try to go next year, bro. The NAMM is going. Yeah, it's cool. Two years ago, Mr. Chalk and Melody much love and respect. They gave me an interview and then they told me you want to drop a set and I was honest with them. I said, bro, I haven't practiced. I'm not going to bother to embarrass myself. Yeah. I'm not about to do that, you know, so. But yeah, much love and respect with the NAMM is dope. I like to go at least twice. I think it's like a four day or five day thing. Yeah, like three or four days. Yeah, I like to do at least two days. Would I, you know, what I tried to do there instead of like doing a routine was just, you know, like, because I naturally figured out like the form of mashup, stem mixing and shit like that, just flipping the songs and shit like that and just, you know, creating a different vibe with this particular song. You know it this way, but I'm taking it over here, right?

1:21:44And I did a couple of scratches and shit like that to stun out a little bit, a couple little things, but I tried not to do too much so that I didn't fuck up and embarrass myself because, you know, it's pretty cool. I'm not sure. You not only got these fuckers back here, the experts on this shit and some of the kids they teach did are on that crazy high level of turntableism. So I was just trying to make sure what I was doing was clean, you know, and then having these people watching me like fish bowl, fish bowl mixing, you know what I mean? That's shit where you got to do something. You can't just be mixing dance songs because they're not there for that. They want to see you do something. Yes, absolutely. You know, one thing that I just found out this year about C-minus, I didn't know C-minus was a big print sky. Oh, yeah. To me, when I was a vinyl collecting, I collected nothing but print promos. So that's all it because I'm a big print sky, bro. Oh, man, we got a target. Yeah, it is. Yes, yeah.

1:22:44I know you got some pieces. I mean, I know when people ask me like, who do you choose, print, so I'll be honest, I always say prints. Really? Yes, I always do. So let's go around the table, crop. That's for Michael. No, I folk with prints. Just to me is like two different styles, but when you hear about prints and all of the shit that he can do, musically, musically, and then I heard he could damn your slam dunk on you. Yes. Crazy on the back. Just a little short guy. Good, I'm like, oh, this shit is crazy. Yeah, I got to say Mike on mine, but it's very close because I love prints too. Yeah. You know, you're right, though. Prints, prints could do. Drums could be like, oh, a conversation. Prints was a multifaceted artist that, meaning that he could write the song, he could perform the song, he could play every instrument. He's like, how Dave Grohl did the Foo Fighters album, he could play every instrument himself. He's like, what DJ Quick is to us.

1:23:45Quick and dry. Yeah. Yeah. So I love prints. He's right there. You know, it's hard to separate them, but Michael was the bigger star for sure. Oh, definitely. Yeah. Michael was like, the world global shit. Yeah, speaking of that before, before we ask you guys, there's a clip, James Brown. Oh, I saw that shit was. Oh, then prints was mad as fuck. Yeah. And it was the one time prints took a bad L. Michael went and shined like the story was and prints took a massive L on every love. I heard he was not. Michael can be petty too. Oh, well, I've already laughed at him. It's shit like. Oh, yeah, he was doing the show. Well, because they were petty with each other, yeah, go to me. And that was his one get back. And the best signal of how much of an L prints took is at the end, he tries to hang onto the light post. And I saw that. And I have spoken down back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But okay, bad, it was fake problems. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I saw that. I was like, dude. You see that shit? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she was first. I would say prints.

1:24:46I know, you would say prints. I mean, but I will say, of course, Michael Jackson is a more popular world entertainer. He was like, dude, Michael, Michael, Thriller Mania, there was nothing like it. Right. When people try to compare Taylor Swift and all these newer, like, pop stations. No, it can't. You were there for Michael, for Thriller Mania, Michael Mania, you know what I mean? That shit was everything. I mean, Michael sold those records and tickets without any form of this technology. I got a question. Who would you pick though? Prince, the producer or Quincy Jones? Because Quincy Jones did Michael Jackson. So who's music you was fucking with more? That's a great question. And I'm going to go with Prince and I'm going to be honest. Agreed. Not Quincy? No, I'm going to stay people. I'm going with Quincy, I think. He got old school. And now you're going with Jackson. The guy's amazing. Right. But Quincy, for me, the one I want to start out, I mean, all of his music is great because I'm not trying to belittle his work.

1:25:47But the Thriller album was the one that made Michael, in my opinion. Yeah. But Prince just had a whole catalog, bro. So in my opinion, so. Yeah. Well, you know, Prince was more, he was a producer. He was a producer and more musical in terms of creating the music. Not just writing the lyrics, but the music. Michael wasn't that type of artist. He could hum the shit to you. Oh, yeah. I want something like this. And that's what it looks like. And the player, but Quincy will get that shit. And he's orchestrated. He's like the big Zara. Like, OK, let me get her, be Hancock in here to play this. Well, let me get this dude, this Stanley bass player, this. And he produces shit like that. Oh, yeah. I mean, Quincy's run from Brothers Johnson, you know, like to, you know, Patti Austin, to his own Solar Record of the Dude, like Aunt Off the Wall and Thriller. And like, like, that run right there is crazy. I said, I said this Prince took bigger chances than Mike.

1:26:49That is for sure. Yeah. Yeah. He was a, you know, not given a fuck in certain ways. As you sound. Listen, and what's crazy is they both had beef with their fucking major labels. Yeah. Right? Sure. Mike was called in Matola the Devil. And my man, Prince was rock and slave on the side of his face to spite Warner Brothers and changed his name. And, you know, here's the crazy thing, right? Like Mike and Spide of that never made records that would challenge the label or his audience. He made what the people were going to fuck with in his mind, you know, like, this is what I'm feeling. This is what the people are going to fuck with. We're Prince. You know, he made fucked up records on purpose to not sell them so that Warner Brothers wouldn't benefit from it. Right. But his fan base loved him so much that they took those shitty records and still embraced them.

1:27:49Yes. Like dolphins. Come on. Come on. Irresistible. Well, no, that was good. That was good. He was still like rocking at that point, but like when he makes dolphins and the other shit. Oh my god. You know what I mean? He's totally doing that shit on purpose. I never on the podcast. I don't know if you've recovered the Michael movie. What was your opinion on the Michael movie before you gave your answer? I thought the Michael movie was amazing. I thought it was amazing because this was the only movie that I can say that I probably cried several times of great memories. Yeah. Because I felt like I was watching my childhood on the big screen and home. And homey, the Jafar Jackson. Amazing. Amazing. What's his face? What the fuck says he played Joe? Joe Jackson. Oh, Colvin Domingo. Domingo. He's the man. Brilliant. D a long did her take. Yes.

1:28:50Everybody. I mean, it was, I thought it was, I thought it was, it was amazing, bro. Yeah. As a little kid growing up, I was just tearing, especially when he did the, the, the thriller, the making of it and then beat it. I'm like, just that whole shit. Yeah, dude. I didn't do the next-lunch job. It was an amazing time in life, too. Like, you know, that's what it was. You know what I mean? You start like having this, like, because dude, I did the same thing. I watched that movie. I was like, I remember this. What I was doing, all the things, you know what I mean? Or are we going to see a prince movie, a movie about prince? They got to do it good. They got to do it good. They got to do it good. Yeah, there's a thing. Who's going to play that, motherfucker? I don't know. There's plenty that they could play prince. I'm going to be honest with you. It cannot be your two-pack movie because that movie, they did two-pack wrong, bro. They did it wrong. You know, I was on the mic shit. Like you said, we all about the same age. And I'll be telling them, the homies this and that's some of the homies they'd be laughing. But in the 80s it was a time where they almost had this shit, bro, where we was on the roles, bro.

1:29:51It was like a shout I'm talking to you, WAM and all this. Oh, yeah, it was playing at 2 Cindy Lopper, Boy George is next. Madonna. Slade, chamber, slade, chamber. Yeah. All I'm seeing is them. I'm not seeing none of us. And young Mike, he came through, I was like, I got y'all. Let me put this shit back on and that shit about them, not wanting to play black, you know shit on them TV TV. So I was like, and I never knew this shit, but I'm as a kid. I'm like, I'm all this shit and I'm in the house and shit and I'm singing, come on, come on, come on, come on. And the house is doing, I step out the door, I'm like, and the boys in the hood, I can't let the homies know that I like this song and I'm like, I'm talking to you, I'm dancing around this shit. But when I come out the house and shit, I'm like singing all the rap shit, but they had that shit for a minute, bro. Hey, think about it like this, Michael Jackson broke it open for hip hop to be on TV. No shit. Because he don't get on.

1:30:52Nobody. We don't get on, we don't get on. If I may ask a question and I'll start with myself, maybe we can go around and tell you, just one quick question, your best decade of music. Mine has been the 80s. Oh, you mean as a fan? Yes, correct, correct. Mine has been the 80s. Crafth, your best decade of music. Yeah, that's tough, man. Just as like not not including ourselves as a... Correct. Okay, yeah, man, I probably say, I probably say the 80s because of the Michael Jackson, the Prince, the big rich, the two of your story, like all of the LL, I'm bad. You know, all the shit that, the fat boy's a shit. The rock, the big... PSK, we making that. Yeah. People always ask what the hell does that mean. Looking at my Gucci is about that time. Like all that shit, like that shit was in my soul, bro. Not in the 90s. We was included in it, so it's kind of... Yeah, it's kind of biased to... I'm curious, your best decade of music.

1:31:53Oh, you know, that's tough. Because there's so many fucking decades throughout the years, but like what I had grown up off of before I do hip hop. Yes, sir. These couple of things, and I'm sure we share a commonality in some of it, right? The Dewop shit, which is the oldies, old soul, ARLA, when it had existed, right? An AM station. Yeah. Then there was like, you know, the classic rock shit, or what we considered classic rock, because it was before a time, so like the Beatles and the Stones and Zeppelin and shit like that, right? But that's not a decade that we could... You know, we weren't a part of those decades of music, because we weren't born yet. So in the years that like I came up to listen to music, obviously, you know, the 80s, because that's when shit started to like get more progressive in music, a little bit more electric.

1:32:53Yes. Absolutely. And the technology starts hitting in the 80s, and people start doing different sounds. Oh yeah. A lot of groups like switch directions and where they go musically and shit like that. 808 synthesizers. Yes, so I'm gonna also say the 80s, but if I could do this as well, right? Say the 80s in general, right? Because we grew up to the shit in the 80s. But in the favorite zone, right? It's from 85 to 95. Okay. Some of the best music came out in that time. So really, let me push it a little bit harder then. Let me push back. If they was about to put you in the mothership, shoot you to space. You can't split 85 and 95. Which one you put in your shit? Which one you put in your? 85. 80, yeah. Okay. Because that was the birth for us. You know, we start hearing the shit that inspires us in 84, 85. I mean, some of us that are older

1:33:55got to hear it a little bit before then, but those of us in our 50s, it's around that time. You know what I mean? Between 82 and 85, when some of us hear hip hop for the first time. Yeah. You know what I mean? If you're in New York, it's a little bit further back. Yes, 77 or something like that, right, Liz? 77 in New York. Hip hop, when people start, it starts circulating. 77, 79 right between that time. But like for me, personally, 86 all the way to 2000, that was my whole shit. Okay. That's a great thing. Awesome. Yeah. Remind us my brother. I think I was as much as growing up in the 80s as I was, you know, but having your guys as music from the years of 1990 to 1999 2000, like as a DJ, it was the most magical shit ever. So they're like, the ability to play. Yeah. Like to be able to play all your guys' songs and get like, keep a party cracking like on tune.

1:34:55And when I first got the promo, the double A side for Leave My Curve Alone, that changed the party trajectory. That was like right up there with like all the other part, like DJ Quick Tonight and all these other stuff. You know what I mean? Like there was like the party we knew was going to be added, like added, it has a standard now. You know what I mean? And to be able to play it off the books and insane or you kill a man or like all those records, man, packed such a punch that like to be able to watch it all start from that point. Like, oh, dude, this is the best. You know, if I can just share something about that song, Leave My Curve Alone, okay? He's doing shows real quick and he comes back and he goes, Tony, I went up Temple kind of a dance track, but I want to talk about my curl because Steve's always talking about that I always wet up his van from the jewelry curl. But okay, so we get sort of so how would he want it? If you need it, he was like, but my girl girls, but my girl girls, greasy.

1:35:56All the girls, he just love me, but my girl girls, greasy. Oh, yeah. So there was a group that Zapp had produced called New Horizons and the song was called Leave My Thing Alone. So I was like, you can do your thing, anything you do, believe me. I said, let's say, leave my curls alone. So we had two hooks in the song and then that's what we just started. I took the beat from Soto-Soul, the bottom beat. And then I took the bass line from Doozic from Brick. From Brick, then the horns. I didn't think I was, it was going to do anything. I'll be honest. And then, well, you wanted it. Yeah. Well, here's what happened. We ended up in Florida. It ends up in Encino Man. We're walking the red carpet with Vince Neal, Brandon Fager, and Pauli Shore. And we're just a Swami kid, bro. So I'm just like, I don't belong here. Hey, but that's the thing, man. You make something that becomes magic.

1:36:58And it's something you didn't even think. Yeah. That's it. And see, mine is you here to shit. It's making some of these shit. 37 years. I don't have to shit, but that's my brother. So I could tell him whatever the hell I was. Right. Yeah, man. We must wrap. That's right. Hey, check this out. If you haven't smashed that like yet, go ahead and smash it, share the show out. Let your people know we got this shit popping off. We got Tony A and high C up in here. Yeah, yeah. And we're going to open up the doors to the insane asylum. That means you're all in the live chat. If you got a comment, questions, shout out, suggestion. Let's pop it off. Be real. Can I stir up the pot a little bit? Come on. Since we in the gumbo. OK. And I never always wanted to do this, but I'm going to do it on your show. You know, great minds, think of life. Yes, sir. Just my opinion. And y'all can hate us if you want, because y'all know y'all hate our signs. But I think this is going to be big. It's drumroll.

1:37:58Gemini MCs. Come on. Fuck you. Come on. Gemini MCs. Who could fuck with us? Nobody. And if you start going down the list, killers on that part of the show. Nobody can fuck with us. And I'll drink to that beat. Can I get another refill? Yeah. Hey, y'all call in and tell us if y'all looking up to shit. I'm just curious. I'm into that astralominant. No, I'm curious why numbers. I'm curious why she's been babysitting that shot. Like I'm just curious. How much have they been paying you the baby? Because spirits, that's the comeback, right? I love my brother so I had to put them. Hey, do you a rock, though? Gemini MCs, man. We are those guys. You know, we look, we just kind of look at things different. Yeah. There's always two of us in there. Yes. No, I agree. Yes, yes. Yes. Is it a Kendrick? Of course, the royalty right here.

1:38:58Ice-cream. Yeah. Yeah, big too? Or wait, no, Pock. I think it's a good thing. Yeah, Pock. Pock, there's plenty of Gemini's and being shit. Prince himself. Three stack, three thousand, I think. I don't know. There's a lot of us. There's a lot of us, G. Gemini MCs, starting to some shit. Yeah, all good. Fuck that nigga, how you see me? And nigga, I'm a tourist. And nigga, I'm a Scorpio. And nigga, I'm a rock. That's their problem. Yeah. That's their problem. I'm them. Talk to your parents. They fucked in the wrong. You're here. Ah. Point in the wrong house, buddy. You're here and they're watching. There you go. You got to get nine months ahead of it. You know how to count backwards. You just said you want a fly Gemini. Do the work. I'm sorry, y'all. We stuck down here. We had some drinks. What are you going to do? All right, go ahead, Rara. But I like that. Yeah.

1:39:59Welcome to the insane massage. Good show, guys. Good show so far. Yes, yes. Thank you. We got a question from DJ Harvey Lopez. I really missed the Posse Cuts with DJ Quick, Hi-C, second and none, AMG. Will we hear anything like that coming up? Yeah, we got some shit, man. You know how the brothers get together? I got some shit in my phone right now. But you know, my fucking get to get like brothers. We all love each other, but we will damn sure. Go at each other's neck sometimes. It's not meaning like seriously, but disagreements. Or we should do this, or do that, or change this, or change that. Maybe we got so much shit to wear here. I think what I'm going to do is probably, if Beere let me, I'm going to come back up to the motherfucker later on. And I'm going to accidentally leave my phone open some kind of way. Oh, right. And maybe see, mine is somebody in town to go through that motherfucker and pull some shit out of there.

1:40:59It didn't quick one be mad at me for a year or two. And shit, just let that shit fuck it. I'm going to let that shit out. Somebody got to hear. Yeah. I mean, motherfuckers would get totally geeked if y'all fucked around and release something. Because y'all are still active. It's still sharp as fuck. Everybody. Like, hey, nobody dropped off. I appreciate you. And that's real talk. Yeah. Now we got some shit, though. That's because you're good. Word. I'm going to ring it. Next one, Nick T. P. Diddy. Call me Sean. If you suck, call me Gahn199. Right? Oh, yeah. That right. Yeah. Yeah. He's so many. His release date keeps getting delayed. Oh, for real? I don't know whether they're going to push him up or push him back or even wear the fuck he's at. Yeah. He got many things on his back that he got a deal with, Pulse. Yeah. Oh, sorry. That just happened. So sorry. All right.

1:41:59Next one. Thank you, B. Doobie is loving respect to Tony A. and high C. Get in your view with Ralph M. was so good. Also, I have many great memories to that first high C album. Salute hermanos. Appreciate you, my brother. Yeah. All good, my brother. You know what? Thank you for that. You know, I had Ralph M. twice on the podcast and I had to SB 12 out there. And I was showing off beats that I did in the early 90s that would never release. People had asked me to do certain beats, but they never paid me. So they stayed in the vault. And as a matter of fact, I believe I even brought some out with you, B. Yeah. You know, so I still have, I have about a thousand floppy disks from the SB 12. I mean, for people that ask, do you do new beats? Yes, I use logic. I don't like logic. And I'm going to be honest because I'm an old fucking dinosaur. It's like this. I went from boom, back on the SB 12 on 30 knobs, slapping past, taking off floppy's to one hand, one arm, one finger on a mouse.

1:43:03It took the fun out of it. So it might have been fun producing tonight, today on people's. The new tech. I'm not being. I'm not. You'd rather do it those school way where it's more hands on. Yeah. You know, if you can release a SB 1200 would unlive in the time that's fine because Ross on release an SB 200 has 20 seconds. I like bro, like 1987 release when that's 10 seconds. So then you're going to release going to have 20 seconds. Yeah. Yeah. Why would you not extend the time when you know this more sample time is what people want? Thank you, bro, bro. I think they tried to, but the more they extended it, it changed the overall sound. All right. Sample. So the sample rate was shitty. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know that. Well, thank you for that, my bro. Hey, but I'll tell you what, if you played those beats for the right mouth, because it'd be like buying them off you like wiggly or or saying, hey, look, I don't got a budget, but all partake or we could partake in this together.

1:44:04We'll do a 50, 50, whatever I get paid, you get paid on the, you know, even though it sucks with the streaming. Yeah. Streaming sucks because you know, no one really gets paid that much there, but like if you were to release physical copies, you split that. Yeah. That's where y'all make money. But, you know, to put the art out there just basically that's what we're doing these days. We're just putting the art out there. You know what would be, I have a song that I produce in 1997 and I don't even want to say produce because I resampled it from true mathematics only for the money. Yeah. Heat. You wrapped on it, send dog wrap on it and mail a wrap on it. Okay. No shit. 1997, I still have our pictures together. You were wearing a green bagel jersey. And you were wearing a jersey. Yeah. And a pinstay jersey. And my whole thing was like this, I will never put it out, but Tony G kind of like mixed it a little bit. Yeah. Even though I still have the two inch reel. Yeah. I'm going to shoot it to you, bro. Yeah. And I just want you to pay you because you fucking tore that song up. Oh, well, thank you. Yeah. You tore that motherfucker.

1:45:04I'm not going to tell you this. I'm going to say in front of mellow. And mellow will say, I'll say mellow got jealous because you turned everybody out, bro. You know, here's the thing, right? Jim and I and C. It's Jim and I and C. All day, bro. We go to chop the head off of everybody. You know, we know discrimination on the head sticking chop. I'll say this. And I'm speaking from my standpoint in terms of my growth as a rapper, as an MC as a songwriter. In the beginning, I was not that good. You know what I mean? In my estimation, I was okay. You know, but I. Hey, that demo, bro. Fuck that. I'm going to have to stop you on it. But to say pause in a different way. Nega, Nega now, like can't just say, can I get a drug Nega? Now, well, you know, demo, I heard B. I'm not even I'm not saying it because you just said next to me. Well, thank you. Bro, you was on there killing some shit. We like, what the fuck? And then like sin had the different. It was like, yeah, not even comparing it to EPMD, but you know how Eric kind of got all the shine and yeah, and PMD come in and hope make sure he hold them down with some shit

1:46:08of you. Yeah, some slick shit. And then the fuck kid like Nell and then send the coming with the deep like, yeah, Nega, you know, we were like, I'm like, y'all better fucking sign them. I appreciate that, man. Yeah. I definitely appreciate that because you know what I like, you know, because as MCs, we hear the old shit we do, and we're like, damn, I could have done this like this. But you know, I've come to learn that that's where we were at that time. And if that's what connected, that's what connected. And we're going to always grow and keep pushing to, you know, get better at what we do. If we do it with frequency, you know, to be like, writing a lot or performing a lot or being in the studio, creating a lot, whether you're a turntableist or your MC writer, whatever producer, any of that, with the frequency, you get better at it, right? So I listened to where I was then and where I'm at now. And definitely I feel better about where I'm at now, but I'm constantly growing because I think you have to keep open minded to keep growing to stay sharp because it's not saying

1:47:15to adapt to what this new shit is. It's to find where you are, where things are now and like, be good in that lane or be great in that lane. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I mean, it takes work, man. You know, don't understand that, you know, we don't all start as the best rappers. We might become it, but we don't start as that shit because like, you know, even before those demos, if there was demos before those demos, those demos were like, ow, and I wish I had the voice for these particular songs. You know what I mean? Because there's songs that we recorded in that time that were not in the high pitch voice. But I wonder like what they would have been like if I had discovered the voice at that time. Yeah. Yeah. Word up. I don't, you know, we've been going because this is such a fucking great show, but next one, let's go. Next one's from Gilbert, Bartita, hashtag Cypress. Thank you for the super chat. Word, Slute.

1:48:15Doobie is. Remember the jam and Gemini crew from K-Day? Oh, yeah. No shit. Yeah. I tell you. DJ Jam and Gemini. There was two of them. Do you remember that? No. There was two of them. Yeah. There was the real one from, um, from, there was Mix and R-K-Day, right? Yeah, from it. And then there was another one who was trying to claim he was the original, but that's, yeah, I never knew that. Yeah, there was two. Jam and Gemini. Underrated LA, Yo, Hi, C. In my face from the Sugar Free and Mossberg album could be a part two. You bought a Cadillac truck, but you can't buy gas. I'm a royalty check cashing, cooped, theville smash, smashing pretty to the assassin looking for some action. If you won't compassion, I'll be pussy, like I don't know. I was just on some shit. But yeah, that was fun, man. That was, that was like some fun time when we get together. Like Beereal said, you get together and you just start fucking around with shit and

1:49:16doing this and it's that. It's a whole body. Yeah, yeah. You snap on the record and you hear that? You like, goddamn, let me low my shit up too, because he might be shooting this shotgun. So I got to come up here and grab this AR and the nigga shooting the 22. Stop shooting that little motherfucker. Stop shooting that little motherfucker. Stop shooting that little motherfucker. Hard of nighttime. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So, yeah, man, appreciate you. I man, thank you for that. Five star highlight. Is it true, Tony A once finished a rodeo mixed with the fucked up wrist and two broken ass fingers? What up, Tony A and Hicc from DG? No, it's very, very true. I was dating the mother of my kids and her boyfriend tried to come back for ex boyfriend, I should say. Right. And he tried to hang around with us and a couple of my boys were hanging with them and I was like, yo, get rid of that motherfucker wrong. Five fuckers that's up. He's cool, it's cool. I took a fucking 22 to the fucking head, walked the tomb, knocked his mother fucking ass out.

1:50:20My two fingers popped out, took a sock off, wrapped that motherfucker up. I'm good. The next day I went to the fucking hospital, got fucking six pins. And yeah, yeah. If he's remembering, if he's watching, yeah, I'll do it again, homie. Hey, you know, hey, it happens. Yeah, so like don't try to come back. Sometimes you gotta give it to somebody, you know. That's it. If you try to come back, if you dumped you, don't try to come back. But yeah, that's true, bro. I did that. Thank you, my boy DJ. I know you told me you were going to do that shit, bro, but I've got you put me on the spot. Yeah, just for the record. Yes, exactly. Allegedly like they said, allegedly, weak ass motherfucker. There are some weak ass motherfuckers out there. Yeah, sure. Yes, sure. All right. So, what's the name of the movie? The movie is Quincy equals Dr. Dre slash Prince equals DJ quick. That's a cool comparison.

1:51:21I like that. Yeah, I like that. Okay. I like that, bro. And the last super chat, Jade Gawne's high C and Tony A. Would you guys think about Kiffy D getting convicted for the two pocket case? Let me comment on that first form with Little I know. Kiffy D from what Little I know was going on podcasts telling them what he would until police. Yeah, right? I don't understand that. You tell a podcaster what you won't tell police. You told the podcaster that when they were shooting that two pod looked like he was break dancing. First and foremost, that's disrespect. That is very disrespectful. Yes, you don't do that. And then when you convict you, you trying to say, I wasn't even in Vegas. Bro, you put yourself right at the crime of the scene, bro. Yeah, like many times. He said he was in the car, right? Yeah, he said, and he said he handled the guns of the guy. Bro, did you watch any of the trial? Yes. Okay. So like there was the part where he totally told detectives that story, that same story

1:52:23that he put in his book that same story that he told on other podcasts and it cooperated everything because like you know, he had basically dry snitched himself. Yes, right? Yes. They were questioning him about big and he gave them this fucking story. It's like, you know, like I couldn't understand. Like, you know, usually when you grow up in these situations that we all know very well, you don't say shit. You don't say shit. I have damn thing. And he was just out there. You know, I think he wanted to be known as like I had something to do with this. Yes. You know, that this adds more in his mind, maybe it added more stripes to his to his shit, but realistically watching that happen. That was just like, wow, I've never seen someone fuck themselves so hard in my life. Exactly. If somebody would ask me, were you there, Tony? You know what I'll say? Me no, I blah.

1:53:24Yeah. And it was crazy, man. When you see all that, when you heard all the testimony of like how many times he was out there saying it, and then his lawyer to come and say, oh, well, my client, he's a, you know, he's a habitual liar. It's his thing. He lies. That's what he does. You know, he does. But it's like, well, you know, as your, as his lawyer, what makes you take a lot to you. Right. But like he said, he went on all these different programs, telling on himself and then was like, well, I was just playing. I was just playing. I didn't do that. I didn't do that. You can't, yeah, that ain't going to cut it. That's just, no, it's so his, you know, like his sentencing is coming up in October. Well, if you're taking on it, for me, man, it was just, just me being closer than the average person to that, man, we just like, at that time, quick was, we was doing a lot of shit that deaf world going up there and he was doing a lot of records, man, quick was fixing records

1:54:25and doing shit. You're like, he's a type of, if he hear you doing something and he is wrong or something, like, you will, he will just jump in and fix it. Bro, you don't have to sign up paperwork or nothing like that. So by me being super, well, I ain't going to say super close. The shit, we be like close enough. Closer than the average person. It's just certain shit that we already knew on the streets or who did what and this and this and that. No, I would never get up there and just be talking about it. It's just, I'll leave that shit in the street. That's it. Yes. It's too many politics and honestly, when karma, I'm heavy on karma, bro, when you do fucked up shit, fucked up shit just come back to you. A couple of them motherfuckers in jail. Like right now, my wife, Naomi and shit, I be downstairs and I'm hooked on this Nolan Xavier Wells case, a little dude that drowned on Fourth of July. Yeah, it's crazy. I got that shit, bro. It's just in my heart. Like, I coach football, like watching him be a football player and it's like for you to

1:55:28be hanging, it's like all of us hanging out, right? And we go to the beach and all of a sudden C minus is gone. How on the fuck? Tony didn't see him, beat him, see him, less than seeing him, I didn't see him, but C minus is going to do all of a sudden. We got his phone and we giving it back to moms and we got like, yeah, just crazy, bro. You in that situation or that state that does that kind of shit, you know what I'm saying? And to be honest with you that night, we was there, like, homies was there. Some of us, they came from the fight. We was at at 662 already. And I never forget, man, Craig Mack was my boy, Reston Peece, man, Craig Mack, I had put him in my leg, I had a legion, took him to get his first tattoo and shit. He was his loving L.A. like he was, he was, he was, you know, but I see he was in that, yeah, good ass dude, man. That's cool. He was on Deferro East. Do you ever remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That nigga was up there killing, he was happy, he was like, I'm on Deferro East boy, you know, I hit you with the boy.

1:56:28Boy, boy, boy, you got something, boy, yeah, that's shit. And he was performing. So we was at the club, Tony. We was at 662 waiting for it because everybody was supposed to be the homies that couldn't get in, you know, the fight or whatever, wait here because we coming to the club. And that night was fucked up because he never made it to the club and I ended up leaving the club like, it was just a bad time, right? I was just really, Park was cool as fuck, man. Yeah, yeah, he was, man, that's a few of the nice spots. Homie fucked himself on several occasions by saying I gave the gun to Homie. Yeah. He put himself at the spot. Yeah, like witnessing and partaking in. I mean, even when as far as to say, I would have done it, but I was on the wrong side of the car. Like, yeah, he didn't do it himself any favors in what he had been saying out there and what these motherfuckers got to hear in that, in that. He fucked up by just talking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He didn't have to say nothing because everybody else in the car was, is gone.

1:57:30Yeah. Like the three other dudes died, they, you know, killed or whatever. Yeah. So there was only him. Yeah. And all he had to do was shut the fuck up. Yeah, all he had to do. He just shut the fuck up. You got any more? One more. All right, bus. Buckman Trucker. As a young Chicano back in the days, I was so proud to see a Mexican on the cover of high-sea album. God bless to all at the table. You know what? I want to say something. Bless his, bro. Bless his. I want to say something. I didn't know what we were creating. People always asked me, hey, was that shooting women to know it? It was on the outskirts of LA. And Susan Warner was hired by Hollywood Records to shoot that album cover. And I was downtown. Yes, I was downtown. But I want to give credit to Johnny J, because even though we were, we were probably, and I'm going to say probably the first black and Mexican on a hip-hop cover, I want to give credit to Johnny J and Candyman on knocking boots because they released a single knocking

1:58:34boots. And it was, uh, uh, Johnny J was on the hold in the SB 12. But that was a single. And we were the first album. Yeah. Yeah. So, but I want to say something because people often ask me about Johnny J. Did you know Johnny J? Absolutely. He recorded knocking boots for Candyman, an audio treatment in the city of Torrance. And before he went to jail, he called me. He told me he had 82 pox songs. And he said, uh, two pox mom got in contact with me and we're going to release these songs. They used to have your SB 12. That's what he told me. And I said, yes, I do. And goes, I need you to work up some beats. I'm going to do some remixes. I'm going to go to jail for a couple of months and I'm going to come back because then I'm going to hook up with you. I want you to hook up with me. Let's do some two pox beats. And I said, be, I said for the first time. Yes, finally, people are going to hear from me. Yeah. I went to breakfast one day and I read it on a newspaper that he was gone.

1:59:38Yeah. Johnny J. Yeah, I read it piece. So I started working on 2017 and I was talking to my trainer about Johnny J and there was a deputy there. I didn't know he was deputy. He goes, Hey, you knew Johnny J and I said, yeah, I know I'm pretty good. He goes, uh, can I talk to you outside? He was the deputy that made him a trustee. Right. And he goes, I saw him. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. You know, he goes, so he did it. He himself did it. Right. And it's just a mystery story, bro, because I missed the dude, bro. Yeah. So a lot of people do. Yeah. So much love with respect for Johnny J. Word up. And much love to all y'all out there. Get down with us on the Dr. Greeth of Shaw. I want that told yeah, I want that high C coming in. You're going to do this again. Let's do it. And we're going to get on our Gemini shit. Let's do it. Yeah. Yeah. We up here freestyle in this shit. We're going to have to see might as going to be on the turn to put the shit on for us

2:00:40away. What are we doing? We're going to do something. Something. Anything. You know, because we're people. Yeah. That's right. Word up. You guys got any shout out? You want to give before we roll out? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But law proactive, man, we working on some shit like a funnel for lawyers. So lawyers can like it's not for the public, but lawyers can find accidents in this tonight. It's a big thing. It's some good shit, man. Yeah. Top of the probably being quiet. But yeah, we working on just like you said, the stream is shit is you got to find other ways to generate some income, man. Brand ambassadors. Yes. Honey apps, you know. Yeah. We're being quick and sugar free. And we still we still got to talk to free about it, but we working on something that's going to be. Well, you remember what he said? Don't let out your shit, but we might have to reach your room. Oh, come on. You already know. Yeah. I got you. That's it.

2:01:41I got you. Come on, man. It's going to be stupid though. In the name of work. Yeah. Let's go. I love that. You already set up for it and shit. Come on. Yeah. Talk. I'm going to get you to get the radio fans tomorrow. It would be seven years that I started the radio podcast. It's at 11, 2019. Congratulations, sir. Thank you, my brother. Oh, yeah. And I want to give a shout out to all my freaky tail fans tomorrow. We're going live at seven o'clock. And I have a special guest, Lady to bear. She's a psychic and astrologist. Oh, shit, et cetera. I love that. Yeah, I'm going to interview her. I'm going to watch. Yes. And then once again, I want to be real on this team because every time I come here, you can see me. Because show so much love, bro. Like it's like an amazing, bro. Like I truly love coming here, bro. Yeah. I want to give a shout out to Big D. MC Magic, my brothers. I want to pick it back off of Crawford, the Lord of the Lawyers, James and Dreyer. You know, much love Crawford introduced me to them and they've been nothing but a blessing

2:02:42to me. I want to give it to my son, Beast Gowness. I want to give it to shout out to Jen from Passion Town, who blesses me. I want to give it to my dickies who I'm always crazy in every time I watch Dr. Green Town. That's what I heard. Yeah. I want to give a shout out to my boy, Jeff Cohn, my boy Fred from a solid dad and also my brother, the spice smuggler. And Salvi mommy, much love and respect to you. And the one and only Alex, thank you for helping me when I need it the most help at all times, much love and respect. So tomorrow, two and a half o'clock, Freaky Tells and Bigger, I'm going to ask you, I need you on my paranormal podcast. All day. We're going to do that. I like shit like that. Come on. Oh, good. I've been on it. So we got to get you. Oh, yeah. No, no, no, I'm totally down. You already know. Be real quick, though. Real quick. I'm not being funny with y'all on social media. I'm new to this shit. I don't, it ain't open or whatever the fuck it is. It's probably, like, I don't do the social media shit.

2:03:43Y'all, so if y'all sending me something or requests, I still love y'all sending it. I think it's the OG high c Tony A got some shit going on, but B, I'm just a private motherfucker. Like I grew up under the old rules. Don't ever get into carvestrangers. Now it's a thing called living Uber. Yeah. You know, don't talk to strangers. Don't follow, you know, all this stuff. I'm still kind of getting out my dinosaur boat. But keep doing the social media shit for high c, but I'm catching on. I'm learning. So if I don't answer something, don't be like, oh, fuck that motherfucker. I'm gonna call me back. I'm learning. Yeah. I mean, you know, we're all adapting as we go. Yeah. I mean, so with patience, I'm late to the game. It's all good. You're here though. Yeah. Okay. See, Muntz. Shout out to everyone here at the table. I feel honored as a DJ to come up in a time where I was able to play every single one of you guys here at the table of music and create these crazy, like, party atmospheres that have, like, you know, stood the test of time. Thank you so much. You know, I think it's pretty rad to be at this table today. Shout out to the treehouse crew.

2:04:45Shout out to Aitan and Drow. Shout out to you for watching. Follow me at C-Pan4. Tonight I'll be at night on Earth with Patrick doing all new wave, Shougay's. We're going to be playing some post punk and some indie rock. So tonight, follow me on Twitch. C-Pan4 will be there tonight. Start at 9. Word. What up, Cycle Leasy? I'm a challenge. I'm a challenge. Salute everybody on the chat hanging out with us. Tony A. High C for coming through, chopping it up with us. The whole Dr. Green thumb crew up here. We doing it. We doing it. Also, if you're on the IG, follow me at the new Cycle Less page. And if you're checking for the merch, go to the Cycle Less Shop.com. And I'll be back next week. Squeeze. All good. Watch out now. Shout out to God. Thank you, Mr. T. Next to me. And shout out to Tony A. High C. Thanks for coming through. Yes, absolutely. Thank you, man. Appreciate you. I just want to say one last thing, man. Thank you for your beautiful hospitality, bro.

2:05:47Like, I've been on several podcasts where I've been interviewed, but yours truly feels at home, so I want to thank you for that. Thank you, sir. And you should fill it home. Thank you, sir. After it. Be Jim and I, MCs. That's right. We're going to irritate these motherfuckers, man. All day. Listen, God has given you the ability to adapt and overcome whatever situation. So roll with that. But also with those abilities, have compassion. Swallow that.