Hero Fiennes Tiffin On Guy Richie, Voldemort & West Ham fandom!

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1:00Protein is now at Starbucks and it's never tasted so good. You can add protein cold foam to your favorite drink or try one of our new protein lattes or matcha. Try it today at Starbucks. Hello and welcome to winecast. Welcome back to Mr. Cotton call who is sat here in an iron maiden West Ham show available in the club shop. Look at that. Magnificent. Get to get to the stores right now. I know I'll make it look good. Yeah, you do make it look good. And making it look good is our guest this week. Exactly. The start of the upcoming Young Sherlock series on Amazon Prime, actor and producer but most importantly, West Ham fan and sometimes player. Hero fine-stiffing. That's my biggest claims of fame actually. It's not Young Sherlock.

2:00It's not Harry Potter. It's having representing the club at TSD. Yeah, technically tell my mates I've been I've been I've played I've played. He was one of my best players as well. Exactly. He was one of the old pros as well. I just did the running. When those show rules go around Hollywood, sure there might be some big roles but have they played in a West Ham show? No, his Tom Cruise ever turned. No, he hasn't. No, he hasn't. And actually, I was chatting to Coli. He was saying like you were top you were top player at TSD representing West Ham. You playing up front, right? Yeah, I played I just ran around like a headless chicken. So, I was just trying to. He was striker. Kenny Brown, our academy manager. Yeah, we said he looked at me was both on the bench one time. He looked at me and he looked at hero and he put hero in front of me. I was like that's that queuing for me to retire fully. I'm done now. When we were when we went it was yeah, I did a bit of running but the most recent one we went with a bunch of we had a lot of football players out there and like I can play a little bit but I couldn't get near him. I actually come on for 30 seconds, didn't touch the ball against

3:04Nanny FC, didn't touch the ball. 30 seconds on the pitch we conceded. I got a drag. Good drags. So, next day I was like I work on a good team talk. That's how I'll bring something. Well, that was good fun. Listen, he's a good player, man. Good player. I'm not only is it a good player at football, he's actually a great paddle player as well. Well, a golf player too. I love that you're being honest on the card. Let's get on. Let's get on this because you two play paddle. It's brilliant. It's brilliant. He's brilliant. I have the listener needs to know. First player I've ever seen. Cole, he was giving it the big and about how paddle is his future. It's the only sport he's interested in now. Yeah, the future of paddle is caught and called. But hero, how would you rate his paddle? He's nice being way too cut. I mean, listen, it was his first time play. We wouldn't even know. I went through a mate, a man called Charlie, a mate of his and then it was CCC turned up. So, it was a coincidence. You were going to play it before. He's being kind. I'm not. I'm not. It's unbelievable. I'm nothing special. Head and shoulders are better than everybody else at the place. I'm looking at it, my three kid. It's just the same guy that's supposed to be an actor.

4:06Does he do any action? No, is he a professional paddle player? It's a great point now, honestly. He's really good. Football got my golfs my latest obsession. I really am. Yeah, I'm just like every chance. Every chance I can get. I'm loving the golf. So, yeah, after we finished on on young Sherlock, I thought I'd take a few months out, play some golf and a few months turned into about 10 months. Yeah, the phone's still ringing, but we just like. Yeah. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good, man. Cooler sports bully. I really did. It's good. It's good. Jack of all three. I'm master of none. Jack of all three. It's master of none. Have you played golf with any current West Ham? I played with James. James is a player. Yeah, I've played with Jimmy Walker and James Together and Jimmy Walker's boy. I'm playing in Marlon's charity. Oh, yeah, he's charity coming up now. Yeah, gonna win that. Yeah. This one we're just there for a good time. It's gonna win it. It's gonna win it. It's gonna win it. It's gonna be, it's gonna be top fight. We'll give it a go. We'll give it a go.

5:06We're recording this the day after West Ham beat full him. One nail. Great victory at Craven Cottage. Did you watch it here? I did watch it. I wasn't, I wasn't at the Cape. So Youngshire dropped yesterday and a lot of people like, are you watching it? You were, I'm just like, no, I'm watching West Ham full him. And yeah, what we needed that, didn't we? It's, it's, I mean, listen, we were talking a bit before the pod. What can we do other than be optimistic? The boys have given us something to, you know, more to hopeful. We've, we've seen those, those this inside out. This is what we're, we're good at this. We know, we know, this is our bread and butter. So it's familiar territory, isn't it? We've done this before. We've got out of it. Now, I think we've got a bit of momentum. We've got some of the play that we've skinned. Yeah, he's what a baller is. It's unbelievable. We always looked at it and then the injury was like, but yeah, he's come out firing. Yeah, yeah. So I would say he's one of my new favorite West Ham players at the moment. Yeah. Just because I, I just see his effort. I see how much he's putting into it. Listen, all of them are great lads. Even Tati, even up to Tati, the way his work rate is.

6:09Kalim Wilson, when he comes on, he tries his best. Look what boys that are out there giving their all. How do you see it? And who's your favorite player at the moment? I'm still going to say Boeing, even though some of it was just really. Oh, yeah, cool. Boeing was really just... Actually, yeah, after that little shimmy and then... Oh, that's Boeing. That's what that would be. Boeing's done the hard work. Yeah. And I will say I did have a bit on Boeing to score or assist. And some of those score or assist. So they both came in with that one goal. That's the perfect. Is Boeing doing the day work? Being a captain. And yeah, being a captain. Is that being an old-do-it player in a way? And just like... You know, he does so much more than that as well. But yeah, for both of them to... I'm going to stick with Boeing, but some of those trying to give him a run for the money. You did a right, Eddie. And then, yeah, back lines looking a lot better. Yeah. Oh, yeah, a lot better now. Tatiibo came in last night and he had done a good job. Yeah. And Axel Dessassi. Dessassi's a good reason. I have seen. Even Mara Panos has done really well as well. And Hanson, other than that moment, near the very moment we thought they were going to get a penalty. Yeah, the great game.

7:10Yeah, the great game. So it was stepping up. Yeah. It was stepping up. So it's great to be watching West Ham at the moment, but it's also great to be watching Young Sherlock. So Young Sherlock, on Amazon Prime, Guy Richie, directed, you play Young Sherlock Holmes. Now, obviously, the character Sherlock Holmes in the book is an older man. He really, you know, has a detectivey understand. You know, he's got such a view of the world. He understands what's happening, but obviously a younger iteration of him, less sure of himself trying to figure it out. And they are the shoes into which he was stepping. It's quite a challenge, right? For him to play a younger version of Sherlock Holmes, like, he is good at this. Very good, isn't it? Yeah, no, yeah. What I mean, I've always been like, my dad told me about Sherlock Holmes when I was probably like, as young as I can remember. I've always been a fan and known who he is. But I never expected to have a play the character. So yeah, to do it with Guy Richie as well is just like bucket list, off just such a close second to playing with CC for a stand. But I know, Guy is just one of my favorites.

8:11He's always been one of my favorite directors, since like Snatch was, for me, it's Snatch was the first one, but Lockstock and everything, he's at the moment, he's flying. So to work with him on this and play Sherlock, but with him directing was, yeah, just like hard, hard to talk. But yeah, it was a, yeah, I did feel the pressure. As a fan, I'd be so ready to, as a fan of Sherlock, I'd be so ready to criticize someone who gets it wrong. So I was definitely like, that's the pressure, but no one's done this role before. Have they? There's some originality to it in it being Young Sherlock. And we've got, so anyone who knows Sherlock knows that Moriarty is his adversary and nemesis. And we've got them being friends. And when I read the first script, I was like, hold on, as most Sherlock fans, that's just simply incorrect. But once you get into the story, you realize how fun it is exploring the idea and there's an actor called Donal Finn who plays Moriarty. And in the first episode, they meet and Sherlock and Moriarty become friends. Donal Finn is such a good actor. He's, we did a chemistry read where I had the role and he was essentially doing an audition.

9:14And I try and obviously be as helpful as possible and give it as much as you can. But towards the end of the day, I felt myself being a little bit complacent. He was like, two lines in. I was like, this guy's going to make me look bad if I'm a step up my game. So, shout out, Donal. It's not what happens. Really, like some actors might make you feel a little bit... Oh, Fero, I have to step your game up. A hundred percent. It's probably like playing with players when you're playing and you're like, when you're playing on a narrow road. It must've been quite serious. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right. But no, you hopefully you elevate each other. But yeah, so the thing that's probably most unique other than what's on the tin about it being Young Sherlock is we've got him being friends with Moriarty. And I think not only is that really entertaining to watch them be friends, but when you go back to revisit the idea of them becoming enemies, that is enriched a lot by the fact you now think that they were once friends. So, yeah, I'm so I'm so proud of it. Um, uh, yeah. Yeah, he's gonna watch it. He's got a good excuse because it was full in West Ham last night but I'll be watching tonight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll be definitely watching.

10:15But as well, you're on set with your uncle. Yeah, yeah. How's that dynamic workout? Is it? Joseph Finds, you're on. Joseph, yeah, so what is it? What's it look like? How's that feel? So I've, I've like, I don't think I'd be an actor if it wasn't for my family being in the industry. My mom was a direct term. My dad at DP and, and it's more than just Reif and Joe as well as even, even more so I've always been excited by the prospects of working with anyone in my family is in the industry. But because I feel so lucky to have the opportunities have come through them, I've wanted it to come about in like a natural organic way. So that's 28 years old, playing the titular character and having him be my dad. It feels nice to feel like I've found my feet and I've got some experience behind me before. Yeah. You know, I know I can joke about saying that my uncle's got a role because of me, because he's usually a stubborn around. He's not sick of his nails. Yeah, yeah. But no, it was jokes. He's no one in my family really like has much interest in football. So growing up, I grew up in, in Stockwell.

11:18And I'm a West Ham fan because my best mate is dad supported by this time. And we had shout out to the gatehouses. Our family two doors down with like, I think they had four or five kids with like five or six season tickets between them. So I was in there having me down kits and going to up to embark and then my team kind of picked me. But Joe, my uncle Joe, he's a Chelsea fan. He messaged me at the last time, the last time we played saying it's the first time he was taking his daughter to a Chelsea game. But yeah, it was sick to work with him. I loved it. He's obviously, he's not just my uncle Joe, but he's like a sensational British actor. Yeah, yeah. So anytime you were with Colin Firth in the show as Rowan, working with him, they do, you do like, I'm sure it's similar to like when you, when you, you know, a player comes in and you're like, wow, and you're like, well, you're thinking, wow, he's got skills. Yeah, exactly that. The real deal, the real deal. So yeah, it was, it was, I feel like at the start of any show, you get imposter syndrome. I'm like, well, why does anyone, why does anyone believe it? How have I got here? Why does anyone trust me? He keeps it yourself because you want to keep your job. You build your confidence up.

12:18And then Joe comes in. And he comes in in end of episode four. So I've done like four months of filming at that point in my case. I know what I'm doing now, yeah. Joe comes in, I just feel like a kid again. All the confidence is out of the window. He's so supportive. We quickly, um, we quickly, you know, asked it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was funny having an uncle on, so he's like really healthy and each superfoods. And I'm there like with uncle and set, like trying to sneak of sneaky vaping that without MCM. Oh my god. So it was a little bit funny having a, having your uncle on set and trying to try to behave yourself. But yeah, I saw your uncle. He played Gareth Southgate in the James James Crames, uh, Dear England, incredible performance. And I did wonder if he was a football fan, but did you go see Dear England? I don't go to the theatre nearly as much as I should. I mean, we also, but especially as an actor, you know, you know, like when people are like, I've seen his players and he's like, oh, yeah, you just do that. No, but they don't ask you. You think I should know about it. But Dear England, he absolutely, everyone's incredible. But he was, he just, he embodied him so well.

13:19It was freaky. How much he turned into Gareth South. I think he said he had like a little mouthpiece or there was some sort of, I don't know if it was prosthetics or just something he had to give him an underbar, an overbar, or slight. Yeah, but yeah. Like the good father. Yeah, those, the good father, the one he had, uh, he's a mother, a mother, a father, he had his paper in his cheeks or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know that. But yeah, he was, I mean, Joe in, in Dear England, well, that was, that was phenomenal. It was so glad I got to see it. Gareth would see it, didn't he? Didn't he? I'm, now I'm scared to see. I wonder how much I can, can say on this. Yeah. But I, I wonder if there was some conversations about how the FA were portrayed in the show and how much they wanted to get behind it. Yeah, it's, um, yeah. My favorite thing about Dear England, I told Colin this just before we started. I went to see it. And I wondered whether the set designer was a West Amphac. Because you remember at the end of Dear England, as Gareth South could give us a big final speech at the end of the play, all the names of players who have played

14:20for England appear on the stage. And front and center in the middle of the stage was cold. Highlighted as well. Highlighted. Highlighted that highlight. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, okay, okay. Right in the middle of the stage was come and go astute. Yeah, what are you actually doing, reading that? I was, I was, I was reading the middle. It was not the middle name. But what would you even, what's that? What are you doing? I just, I'm all the players in the England who's cold. I'll try to find out. I'll try to find out. We need to figure out why that. What, right next to Glenn Hoddle, it wasn't half a better call? You're just good at what's up. Yeah, yeah, maybe that must be it. That must be it. So, um, did you manage to sneak any West Amphanes into Young Sherlock? This is what, what I wonder. Other than like a relentless sense of optimism. That character has that West Amphanes. No, I don't know. Probably had my, my West Amphanes briefs on underneath. No. So, when I walked you later, there's no Easter eggs in there. There might be some takes where, if I'm sat at a desk,

15:21my phone's probably in the desk with the game and so, literally, it takes, I might be peeing, but no, no, should have. If we get a season two, fingers crossed, just put it under all the way there. Imagine there something like that. And the other thing, I've seen some pictures from, from Young Sherlock. And obviously, Sherlock Holmes, but he's got like the deer hunter hat. Like, just like an old man, like the old pipe and all that. Like, I couldn't see. You look quite cool. Yeah, so when you work with Guy Ritchie, you quickly realise that you're just going to be cool. When you're, when you're playing, I mean, Sherlock can't for a punch and he gets hit in the face about six times in the first episode. So, there's, you know, the characters are obviously flawed in ways. But yeah, with Guy, I did a job with Guy called the Ministry of Unidentumally Warfare before where I had a more supporting role. And my first scene ever, the first note he gave me about five times in a row. I'm sat in a cupboard and there's like Nazis on the other side of the door, it's during the war. And I'm trying to do what you feel like you should do is at turn, you're trying to portray like a little bit of fear, but you're harnessing the fear and this layered complexities of emotions. And I do want to take and guys just like,

16:22here I do it again, but look cooler. And the next one is that, here I even cooler. So, you quickly realise with Guy Ritchie, you've got to be laid back. You've got to be cool. And I've got to be cool. I mean, I think you can get me in a movie. I think you can get me in a movie. Well, he converted Vinny Jones into an actor. Well, you're next, sure. He definitely didn't need to make him look. Guy, come and get me, man. I'm here, I'm here. I'll come and work with him here too. He'll show me the ropes. But yeah, I can see you work on it. Well, I need a little work, mate. I need to remember my lines first. But yeah, the looking cool element, I feel like Guy brings that to his shows and then every other department kind of gets the gist of even like costumes. We're setting the 1870s. A lot of the costumes are just like Ralph Lowe, like some Ralph Lowe and stuff from today's day, from today. Yeah. That they just dress it. I mean, Jeanine was the name of our incredible costume designer and yeah, every head of each department

17:22kind of knows with Guy Ritchie that the whole vibe is kind of heightened and stylised. And you can not break the rules, but bend the rules to look cool and have fun, essentially. But the show, it starts really fast-paced and really fun. And our showrun at Mafia Park Hill is just a genius. And it's so ambitious to create a show that's really like, they call it four quadrant. I hadn't heard the term before, but it's supposed to appeal to all age groups, essentially. Right. And I think that's really ambitious to do. But yeah, it starts fun and fast-paced. It goes to more emotional places, while still having fun. It feels like it touches on every kind of genre. If you love Guy Ritchie, you'll love it. It's a little bit of that too. Okay. There's a little bit of everything. And like I say, I feel like usually that's ambitious. Some of the comedy undermines the drama and vice versa. But we had such a good team of people. I think I'm really proud of what we started to see. Oh man, I can't wait. Yeah. Young Sherlock. And we've got that relateability factor as well. Because I know him. So he says like, I'm seeing him on the screen. I know who everyone's going to be buzzing as well. And then I'm going to be like, yeah, that's my part of it. Yeah, man. Young Sherlock. Young Sherlock.

18:22Yeah, that's it, man. Yeah, amazing. So you mentioned like growing up in South West London. But they're like, that's more rugby round there, I would say. So I said, yeah, what would you say? Yeah, I went to a school that didn't play football. And I left them like a year later, they started playing football. I was absolutely fuming. But so I did, I did a job. I did my first acting job was a hundred pound cash in hand. I went straight to Lily White's and got a four-westam kid. Lily White's. It was like quite a small job. My mom took me and like, I don't really know what I was doing. But yeah, I've got to credit my mom for all. She like, not push me, but she was the one who's saying like, you can do this. I know you're going to be able to do it. You're going to be great. And I was like, don't fancy me, I'm going to pay for this. And yeah, she was the one who said, I was incentivised by a day off school. Was always the first kind of into acting. Again, I'm so lucky to have the family members I do in the industry. But yeah, my mom kind of kind of like persuaded me with a day off school. And the first job I did was like four hours work. I don't think I had any lines if I did it was one or two.

19:24And then was a hundred pound in the envelope that I got paid after. And I said, mom, can we go straight to Lily White. And it was the job service sponsor. It was an awake it. And it like, it kind of looks like it's got a six pack on it. Like it's got abs on it. I know the one I mean. I mean, one. Yeah, I mean, one. I mean, one. So I got that one before I joined. No, I figured I was you would do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you would. I did it like I had a free pack of them. They've just put it back in the club shop. I did have a six pack of them. I've, yeah, I've still got that kit actually. Oh, yeah, they have. Yeah, they've got it in the club shop. They do that. Yeah, that's how you know exactly. And then so after I got, I've got a rolling in Harry Potter. That was the red. Yeah, that was the next job I got. Again, it feels like a lifetime ago. I was still incentivized by the day of football. I mean, the second job was playing young Voldemort. It helps when my uncle's Voldemort. I'm sure that had that had some some sway. But, but obviously you need to be able to, you know, do it as well. So my mom helps me a lot with that. And again, I did like seven or eight callbacks

20:26where you like, you send a tape off or you go and audition and they narrow it down. So if they start with however many people, by the end, it's like you and three others or whatever. And I just, I feel like I just, I just didn't ever think I was going to get. I was just that I'm here to get it. And then you don't actually think you're good at your job. I do have a lot of humble enough to start. Do you know what this, I'm getting, I start to get a bit more. It's one of these ones where I like to say, I do get the imposter syndrome. But if anyone was to say, you don't deserve you're terrible, I'd bet myself. You've put in the work. Yeah, at this point, I have, at this point, I definitely have. And as I say, I'm really, I'm really proud of, of the show. So yeah, I'm getting there. I'm getting there, but no rugby. Sorry, quickly, because I'm keep on going. I went to the, I went to a school, I got 75% bursary to go to a private school that didn't play football. School's called a manual in type of junction. And yeah, I was, I said to my mom, I understand you got to send me here, because it's a great school. And you know, if they've given us a 75% bursary, it makes sense.

21:29I said, I'm going to get my name on a bench here, saying, here I was the person who made them play football. And that didn't happen. And I left them like a year later, they've started playing. Oh, yeah, so you've been able to do it. You may do it. Maybe you laid the groundwork. Sorry, finally landed that plane going. No, no, no, you laid the groundwork, you laid the groundwork. So I'm lost on the stage. But as I was saying, you're, you're, you're, you're a pioneer for hard work and graft. You know, I mean, to get to where you'll get, got to, now you've got a massive show to, to deal with. And everyone's going to be looking at you in that type of eye now to say, do you know what, it's grafted to get to this level now is a leading role in this character, right? So now that ties in with what we are, what's them, do you know what I mean? Go on. We're working class. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We grow off. We go off to get, we get what we want out of life and sometimes we don't believe in ourselves. Yeah, we fly so high, we reach the sky. Oh, my gosh. No, I mean, beautiful. And then, and this is what goes on with all of our fans, that relatability and you're definitely, you definitely fit in, bro, you know what I mean?

22:30So that's what we're saying, yeah, appreciate you, bro, get you the side off by coldly, mate. You know, I mean, when you, I think you said I'm part of the furniture, I think I talked about seven of my mates after TST was like part of furniture now. I was like, you said, I'm, you're part of this, I feel, I feel like it's a, it's a player next row. Yeah. Honestly, like, honestly, like this, this, I've been doing a bunch of press for Sherlock and this was the one that I was like, guys, this is, this is what I'm looking forward to me. Yeah, yeah. And yeah, my, my, my proudest, my, I'm so proud of all the work I've done and my proudest moment is having my name on the back of a West Ham top and playing alongside this. Yeah. Well, so if your first kit was that job serverer, that would have, that's Colton Cole era. Yeah. So I did. On the 40 level West Ham around the same time as the big man was, yeah, he was the runner. I mean, so I'm 97. So probably only my first game actually was at Craven Cottage watching. I was supporting West Ham, but through school, a few of us, like, did, you know, I think Fulham, they reach out to everyone, don't they?

23:31Yeah, yeah, I just feel like every primary school, you got to see, they got to see. But yeah, we were sat in the, in the, uh, in the Fulham and then one of our mates was brave enough to wear a West Ham top, but we did, we did get the win. That was my first game. I think it's probably six or seven years old. I used to love playing so I love going to college, which is do well, you've got a record there. Yeah. I loved it, man. Yeah. Yeah. But when West Ham played Fulham at Craven Cottage, I remember us, we were, in your era, were you typically one and you typically, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, aren't that? You're right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So here are like growing up. What West Ham post did you have on your wall? Who were you? Your big favorite players? Park Colton obviously. I mean, Colton Cole's, he is, he's, he's up there, isn't he? Yeah. He's just, you genuinely, thank you. And then there's obviously like, it's just, it's not Mr. Mark, no, it was like an obvious one, but that's the one, if I have to say one, that's the one, but then, dimmy, like dimmy, what a player. He didn't have long, but boy, I know, 18 months, he was with us, signed in the 2015, 16 season,

24:36but what an 80 month. Now we're far enough away from it and the heart breaking, which is so much easier to talk about. It's so much easier. He was just one of the players where every single time he got the ball and I'm, you can't really contact anyone to messy, but when you watch messy, you just go like, some is going to happen. Lums of seats. Yeah, exactly. And dimmy was, it was really like that. You could say to people watch, watch him get the, I mean, one game against Liverpool, saying literally to her mate, who I didn't watch them much, like, everyone knew he was good, but the people who I didn't watch, like, every single time he gets the ball, he's going to do something, watch, and he was really letting them not making people and just like, yeah, even Mark Noble says that he's probably one of the best players to done the West Ham show. But he could only really do it in our top, couldn't he? There wasn't, I mean, he did. He's done it, but when he was with us, it was just, yeah, it's through to them. It's just through to them being, it's just, that's the shame that you had to leave. I know. I remember I was flipping burgers in Brixton, actually, I had a job at a place called Miss Pease Barbecue. And my mate Felix, he's like, you've had like 11 different lives.

25:37He's got a flipping burger, bro. I was, yeah, on the act and I was active. You know, when I was, when I was doing, doing that, that was a period where you, after Harry Potter and stuff, it was only like 16, 17, I wanted to take it, so I did hundreds of probably terrible additions, I hope, never see the light of day, but as you just, as you say, you've got, there's, there's graphed in periods where you think, so you had to have a side also. So yeah, I was at school, I was at sick form, a school called Graveney at that point. And I was like, not doing my course, I was trying to do coursework, pay the bills, flipping burgers or earn a bit of money and then doing auditions as well. And I dropped out of school in the second year, because I was just like, I can't do all of these things. And I wanted to give that to the guy. But anyway, I was just trying to make a bit of, I'm playing, sorry, flipping burgers. And West Ham were playing United, and there was that free kick that was just, oh, my way. And I was literally like preparing someone's burger, but had it up on the iPad. And I just remember, I'm Felix was in there with me, my mate, and it went in and we just were screaming for like two minutes. And the woman was like, oh my god, I'm so sorry. I forgot about it.

26:37I forgot about it. I forgot about it. It was cold. It was cold. I forgot to put another one on. Can you just do your job, please? I was like, have you seen this guy? Who's at West Ham now? Oh, that was brilliant. Yeah. So obviously you went from idolizing these West Ham players to like playing with him TST. Yeah. And then I'm in a bit of a social after like that week. So that week I was, I was, I went, penultimate episode of Soccer A.M. I managed to put it in the bin. Did you? Maybe rolled a clip, guys. Roll the clip. But yeah, and then, and then I've gone to, I think it was against Leeds. We had a game here at home. It was rice. I think it was a lot of rice last home game, obviously before your open conference will be final. And rice and I had been like chatting a little bit, so we had not a breath, but yeah. I was, yeah, anyway, I just love telling the story. I want it to last as long as possible. And then, and then I've done, so I've done Soccer A.M. and me and rice. We have a chat with him after he's, I think he got a brace and we won.

27:40And yeah, so it was like my first time meeting him just in time, because we knew he was going to go. And then I'm walking out and a guy called David who's in the room with us now gave me a tap on the shoulder. I've heard of this, this TST, this TST tournament, so shout out David over there. And yeah, and then they, they, we went to the training, training ground and played all right there as well. I don't know. I can't remember if you were there. I don't think you were there. I wasn't there. Was it an audition? It was kind of like, I think it was, it was David being like, I've posted it on my Instagram, because Tom Skinner was in goal and I just, I slapped it, it wasn't, you know, but you know, figure out Tom Skinner, but yeah, it was Tom, yeah, it's a Tom came in. I think he was going to play the end up being a manager. So that night, we'll have him in, but he's got to be gaffer. He made me look good. But yeah, so it was, it was so great, and meet rise, come train with the boys. I was thinking, this I can't top this. And then, and then I played all right, and, and Tom was picking me up and then they saw how many Instagram followers I had and that was the, that was the tip and point. And the boys were like, get him on the plane.

28:41David, David knows. Yeah. David knows his stuff. Best week of my life playing with West Ham at TST, what a time we had. And then, you know, it wasn't that square out of the players, it was myself, Marlonair Wood. I don't know. I don't know. My name was there. But Morty was there. He was there. By the way, still quite as he's still going. Yeah. Was there any players who really surprised you? Jarvis, Matt Jarvis still rap. Paul Reed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who surprised me? Do you know what? I don't expect to come as well. There was a time when Jack Connison. Yeah. Yeah. There was a time when we were in the training match and I remember who was playing. I was like, obviously seven aside format and me and Ceasey were just like, Pettin' I just, honestly, I think I was, you were in front of me and I was thinking I'm just going to do whatever I can to just stay this side of him. Yeah. And he just flicked it through my leg. Like, the first touch quote from through my legs, I felt like a building had fallen on me. You just pushed one arm to the side. I've never heard anybody excite, like, describe me so strong before.

29:46I know I was strong. That was your move. That was your move. That was your move. That was your move. Yeah. And with Anton as well, Anton just, there was one, I've got the right side of him because obviously he's, you know, he's getting on a little bit but he's got all the little, just the IQ. Yeah. And I've just, I've got round him on the right, I was thinking I'm definitely going to slot this. I'm literally inside the goal mouth and keep us coming out but there's just plenty of space. And I've just, he's just waited, just waited for me to pull my foot back to shoot and then giving me the push. But it was light. I don't think it would be given as far as a little nudge, but you forget the IQ of these players. You just came at the right time and I've just thrown me off balance. You split second stuff in it. And that's what's the problem. No, you feel the level, honestly, yeah, I was going to say that, like, when you play football with X-PROs, you realize how deep the water is that you're honestly, you're like, I'm way out. Yeah. The skill you guys have, this is the sound of a professional footballer kicking a ball is like a shotgun going off, so yeah, I don't, I'm probably numb to it now. Yeah. I don't, I don't see it myself. Whenever I go near a ball, it's like, was I actually a footballer?

30:49Do you know what I mean? It's just like me with every acting job I do. Yeah. I would tell if I got it. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm so bad. You've actually got, talking about that summer, 2023, you've actually got an incredible Prague story. Well, maybe it's not incredible, but take us, take us through your day. So, so yeah, so we've gone, so that whole week was the meat rise, train with the boys, get on the plane, have the best week of my life, and then we're looking forward to the, to the final in Prague. And I managed to sort that accommodation and tickets to the game. But the way we got back, so you went straight to, you went to Gatwick, you jumped straight on a fly out to board. Yes. But I was the next day. So you must have stayed a night in Prague. I stayed a night at home, went back to Gatwick with a mate of mine with Kellund, and, and I said, yeah, we would, we would air like plenty of time, had a pint looking at the departure boards. And it's delayed a little bit. That's not good, but we'll be all right, we'll have another pint and wait for all this to blow over. And then it just kept on being delayed. And we just had to make a call where we were just like, it's going to get us in at like

31:51full time. So we're going to, you know, eat like this, just, yeah, it was like, it was so tough, but yeah, we, so obviously if we wanted to even watch the game, it was getting to an appointment with like, we need to get to a pub or somewhere to watch the leave. But we were obviously able to group the mates watching out of pub in central, and we went back there and listen, my, that was the best week of my life. Like, I even think like maybe if I went to Prague, something would have happened, you know, the butterfly fest. So I'm just happy with everything, you know, there's, it's all happened for a reason, and hands down best week of my life, so it was so, it was so good, man, it would have been good to see you there as well, to be honest, but we, because you'd have been on the pitch afterwards, I'd have seen you in the cards to come down to the pitch. That's what I was doing. I was just getting all my mates off. Yeah. It's one of the pitch. Everyone is on the pitch. I wasn't. Well, we've got to say where you are, because like, when Boeing gets that last minute winner, you're stood in the corner. So when you watch the Boeing knee slide, he's knee slide in towards Cole, who stood on the touch slide. He's getting, he's getting more painful actually talking about it.

32:53It was a brilliant day, you're the loved it, man, and it was afterwards as well, the celebrations and something just you don't forget, you know, and listen, we want to get back there, don't we? Exactly. We want to get back there, and this was, make, create more memories at this cup. Yeah, exactly. Definitely. Well, it's good times at West Ham. The sun's out today as we recorded this. We've just beaten full of young Sherlockies on the telly. The vibes are good. But before we leave here, why should West Ham fans watch young Sherlock in between all these amazing West Ham performances we're getting? Honestly, because I want to do a season two, so things just support us, like, but no, support us. No, don't have a hammer out. Come on. Genuinely. Like, I'm really proud of what we've done. I think it's a great show, and it's honestly fun for all the family. Yeah. The showrunner Matthew Parker told me it was a four-quadrant show, and I said, I've never actually heard that term before. I can guess what it means, and it does just mean, you know, every quadrant of demographic or the type of people who might want to watch it or going to watch it, and I think we've

33:54really done that. But obviously Guy Ritchie, sure, a lot of West Ham fans here, Guy Ritchie and Aaron Bordeaux are here. It is Guy Ritchie's support. He's got to be a West London singer. Don't think he really cares about his football, actually. No. I would know if he did. I don't think he's too. It feels like he should be a West Ham fan. Like, when you look at his current, Colin Firth's arsenal. I know that. Yeah, Colin Firth. I can see that. I can see that. I can see that. Colin. Yeah. If Guy Ritchie doesn't have a team, I think West Ham. You should be West Ham. You should be. Like, who was he born? What was he born? What was he born? I think he's West London. I think he's West London. I think so. I'm just fine. Listen, lad, I'll work on it. Yeah. Let's get him a shot. We'll give you a shot. Does he look like I made him? He's not like I made him. Yeah. We'll find a way. Right off my back, you can take this. Yeah. We'll find a way. We'll sucker him in. Thank you so much, hero. Young Sherlock hitches screens on the 4th of March, which is already out. So go over to Amazon Prime, check out Young Sherlock. Cheers again, hero. Thanks very much, Coli. Look at that iron maiden shirt as well.

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