Hangin' With The 'Boys: Talent Tops All

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1:07The backfield is hanging with the boys now your host Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly and Shannon Gross. Thursday Thursday opening day of baseball season, Kurt's favorite day of the year. You're looking live at Tolstito Championship Plaza outside Ford Center at the star Frisco, Texas, where it is beautiful. 81 degrees. The highest 87 below is 66. It is beautiful. That is Shannon. There is Nate. We got Chris in the back. I'm Kurt filling in for Salt and Peppa Poppy. Jesse taking a breather together. We are the sports talk equivalent of Braille people when we speak to each and every show. Well, you know what? Wing stops here here.

2:11Had a little memory lapse. I don't know what's going on here today, but it's all out of whack when we don't have the whole crew. So how you guys doing? I'm doing great, man. Yeah, I'm doing. I'm doing you know what, Kurt? I just love Colorado. So I'm doing wow. Is it with prime? Yeah, yeah. Just let it go like this morning, a two day. I left Monday and got there Monday night and practice Tuesday jump back in the truck. Got here Tuesday night. Got back late Tuesday night. Charles Hayley had his tackle for life. I think it's where he helped kids and stuff had a little gambling deal down here and at the training table yesterday. So I've been having fun, bro. I guess so. Very nice. Get up there and talk to the kids at Colorado. You just hang out with prime? No, I know I worked to live with the offensive line. You know, just a little bit kids are a little bit different now. They, you know, brother,

3:13being your knees is not a discussion why you can't, if you can't be in your knees, why are you here? Brother, stay low. I don't, okay, you hit your elbow. That happens in football. Stay low. I mean, it's a debate with everything, but I like how you're cheering me on. I'm like, I ain't fin to debate that. I'm not cheering you on. I want to say you son of, you know, that's not really what it's a, but you can't talk to the babies like that now. They need you up there cracking that whip brother. George Hengerman is cracking the whip. Yeah, they're he's cracking the whip. They got all what's out. Andre, he played center for us. Rod, he's up to trying to crack the whip. But the money makes a difference. Y'all want to, the money makes a difference. And parenting is less because money is set in households. You know, your kid made a hundred thousand.

4:13You and your husband together couldn't make 60,000. So guess who wins when it should never be that way. It should never be that way. You know, you showed his kid how to save money. You showed his kid how to invest his money. You don't go up there and party with your kid. You don't go up there and live with your kid. Where he would have had a one bedroom apartment. Now he got a two and a half bedroom apartment. I mean, and this is not just at Colorado. This is at every college that has extra money to give to the kids. This is at every college. These coaches are fighting with one hand behind the back. Now, I'm telling you every coach is fighting. It's not the power fives. I mean, I mean, the true power, the Texas is the Michigan's. The Ohio State's the Georgia's. They still got somewhat control. LSU Prime Minister lost. They left tackle the LSU. The one serious offensive I'm in the head that was established.

5:13He going to LSU, you know, for a nice little chunk of change. I think I, when they told me how much they paid, I said, can I move in with him tonight? I know he's got a personal coach. Yeah. What what's concerning, I guess to me, you know, having a five year old, I went and had lunch with somebody the other day that has has a couple of kids at her high school, about to get ready for college. And they've entered this AAU basketball world. One of their sons. And he was, and he's really good. He's, I think, a freshman, but he's playing up to a varsity level. Right. And then they have these circuits, right? Sneaker circuit and all this stuff. And then, but what's happening is, it's becoming a business for the, like what you said, very much for the pain already, we were, but it's like, okay, I think my kid might be able to play college with all these NIL deals.

6:15So I'm going to go cash in my 401k and I'm going to get him a personal coach, personal training that you used to didn't get until you got already had the money, right? With it when that was, I'm going pro. Yeah, I got, I got agent that's going back me until I get my first paycheck. Now they're investing in these kids like, it's an, I think my kid might make it. So like you said, you got a couple of parents that are making, yeah, $60,000 a year combined. They're taking their life savings and putting in these junior high kids because they think they might have the talent and their role in the dice and, and, and you know how that is? 99% of these kids don't even make it to the college level, much less the pro level, but they're getting paid pro money in college now. So it's worth the gamble and, well, for them in their mind, but then it turned dim into jerks because they're so invested, it takes the fun out of the sport for the kid. It's a, it's a business at a, at a 12 year old age where used to just do it for fun.

7:20And then if you had the athletic talent, it's, it's changing everything. And it's like, I don't think this is fun. No, youth sports is a mess right now. Yeah. And because I can't even imagine the college kids that are already getting the money. I'm telling you parents, you can write in, call in, do whatever you want. You can text in, you can get wherever you want. That is dumb. D-U-M capital B-B, that is dumb. That is dumb because when this kid don't make it, what are you going to do? You're going to look at your baby who had nothing, nothing to do with your decision and start looking at him in a different light. You, you've taken a baby that's 14, maybe 10 years old, 12 years old, and you turn him into an investment. So you look at him a whole different way. And your kid, let's say he make it to college and he gets a $2 million deal for one year.

8:29And then all of a sudden he looks at you and say, you need to do this. And you need to do that. And you try to stop him and say, hold on, I'm mama, I'm daddy and I did, don't matter. You created this monster. You create, don't ever stop being a parent. And I'm not saying I was no great parent because if you're one without Dorothy Newton, my ex-wife, my kids probably wouldn't be the man that they are today. So I'm not saying, but somebody in the household, grandma and uncle, somebody got to step up and say, y'all doing this wrong. Somebody better step up. How y'all doing? They go some babies, yeah, y'all should be in school and I'm trying to see you to write. Get this spring break, you know what I mean, spring break over wheel. Well, different schools have different times, different times. Maybe they're different about that. You don't wave at me, your kid need to be in school, you know what I'm saying? But no, that hurts me. When I see kids, I'm not telling you something to be debated.

9:31Son, if you don't bend your knees, this guy can run around you and you won't begin getting into play in time. If you don't understand that you have a down block and you got to get down there in a hurry because your son of a god of leave and you have doing it, that you're running back and getting knocked for a loss. And it was just everything was for debate. And so when I talk to prime, I say prime. I know half your team is new, but these babies got to get in shape. When you, let me break this down simply, we got time. No, yeah. When you are not a Alabama, a Texas, a Michigan, or now an Indiana, you know, when you don't have the money and the power and backing that these real power five schools happen, two things have to happen.

10:32You have to be in shape and you have to know totally what's going on within the office, defense, especially. You have to be submerged in it because your athletic skill overall cannot, cannot cover you. If you're supposed to be covered to deep safety, you can't walk up extra five yards because your athletic skill is not good enough to get you back deep. When there's got to take off from Alabama, a Texas going on a skinny post and all of a sudden you say, oh, oh, oh, it's over for you. Whereas for the better athlete, he's got a chance. So that's why I'm looking at and I'm saying, baby, you got to be better. You have to be in shape. That's your edge. Your edge is I'm going to be in better shape than you. And I'm going to know 100% where I need to be and how I need to do it.

11:33If I'm going to compete on this next level and I'm not talking about pro, I'm talking about when you run into a Texas team, are you running to a Kansas team or Georgia Tech team that's well coached? Everybody's in shape and on the same page. Parents, your kids have to be in shape. In this competitive world where one year you making a million, you fall off a cliff because every year it's 10 kids leave Texas because Texas then gave them $500,000 off the drop that your kid fell off the cliff. Now he's calling a Colorado. He's calling a North Texas. He's calling TCU trying to get in. And they look at that feeling like, what happened here? And then the next thing said, well, this happened, this happened. They said, OK, what's your asking price? Well, I need at least 300. How much you made a Texas five?

12:34Yes, sir, I made five of Texas. Well, right now we got all we got is 100. We can start. We can start at 100. $100 should be. No, yeah, it should be $100, but it's $100. So how is, because Prime doesn't seem like he holds his tongue and he don't, how is he adapted to this new generation of athletes? With truth, with truth. If you come into his office and you look on that film and you come in because everybody comes in negotiating at first. See if we got time. Yeah, got him in. Everybody comes in negotiating. That's wrong. Deon said, hold on, mom, dad, agent, uncle, whoever that person, that person of authority is, hold on, hold on. Let's talk about playing. Let me tell you where I see your kid at. And then you can decide what your kid worth after that.

13:39So this is where we see your kid at. This is what we see your kid do. So you said 200 what? Like you said, it occurred $200. See, because everybody has a big opinion. Everybody ain't David Mala, Mala Gatta. Everybody, David. David knows who his client is and what he can possibly get. You going off of some high school coach that cherished your kid and threw him 150 passes and he caught 60 of them for 1,015 hundred years. Where now he's on the level where everybody's equal. They don't seem that way. Can you imagine being a coach now? Not only do you have to deal with what you used to have to deal with. Now you got Jimmy Jack from the sporting goods store and Dothan Alabama. They're representing your kid and you got him in there with the kid and the mom and the dad and the grandpa.

14:40And then you're having to go and then you have like kids that come in with legit agents. Can you just just the scope of what you're dealing with when it comes to just negotiate? You two kids were begging to come to your program. Now you're like, well, I have to set what you do. You set your boards. It's like, well, I'm a Clayton dude. You set your board. But see, where is they hoping to drive? They hoping to sign. They don't skip the draft anymore. And they know such things recruit is like, this is what our money says. Do we see this kid at this range, this range, this range? You know, even with the signing of, like, remember when, when, when, you know, you signed for you, for your letter in town. Yeah, all, and how big all of that was. That's not the big thing now for the HBCUs. That's black college for, you know, I'm just trying to, for black colleges and those of that equal ill.

15:42This is what we wait on now. Georgia promised you that last scholarship at $200,000. But a dude called him from Texas needing $500,000, come to you. So the $200,000 went away. Sorry, gave the scholarship away. Don't nobody else want me. Hey, Florida and him. Y'all got a spot. Yeah, glad to have you. I didn't kick some other kid up, but glad to have you, baby. They leave their rosters open to the very last minute. Oh, really? Certain spots. They leave enough spots. So when one of them kids drop out of that power five, they can get it, get that kid for a year or two. Yeah. They're saying it's making it kind of easier for the NFL to scout because the colleges are doing their scouting for them. All these diamonds in the rough at Florida and M. Yeah. They're getting grabbed by Alabama now. Yeah. They're just focused on the power for and so if you elite, if you ain't elite at the

16:43black colleges, if you are not elite, enjoy yourself, enjoy the college, I'll just be it on it. I'll just be it on it. All right. Let's take our first break. When we come back more talk with Nate, I like, I like when Jesse's out every once in a while. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Speaking of, yeah. Maybe we'll talk about that, dude, when we come back. But I would like to speak about it's been absent of there's been a, there's been a, there's been a contract since we last met that made that you know, Chris, go ahead. May tell us a little bit about the market. We'll let Chris chime in. Yeah. Yeah. Six, eight, four years. Hey, well, the boys will be right back. Loes knows Sundays are for football. So tackle your home improvement projects by Saturday and earn your Sunday with great deals on LG and Bosch appliances, select bounty and swiffer cleaning products and more.

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20:52There we go. Thank you. Well, I like that. Do you... I like that. Today. Kris, speaking of receivers, J.S. N. Big contract. Big on paper, Kris, break it down. Break it down, boys. Break it down! It was a four-year extension, so they actually have him for six more years. And when does the big money start? I know they gave him a big sign in bonus, but his two years is when his money start really kicking in, right, Chris? Yeah, so his big money doesn't start until 2028. Yes. So if you take all the money, put it together and divide it by six, it's actually like 32 a year, which is kind of the going rate. Yeah. So as soon as I heard that I was on the roll right here and it's I'm like, well, I don't they just be honest and say this kid signed a six year contract.

21:52For he too, that's already there for much better in the paper. And it sounds good. But if I'm the NFL, I'm stopping that. Well, maybe you shouldn't. Maybe because the teams be like, maybe we got these kids believing they can get you know, like, for instance, his cap number next year is only 10.3. Yes. So his actual base salary is only 1.2 million. Yeah. Wow. And his, his signing bonus was 8.8. So yeah, a bunch of guaranteed money, 120, I think, guarantee. All right. So that's kind of, we're looking in that ballpark, right? We're in a contract with pickings, right? 32 to 35. And if negotiations go anywhere, like they have with the kicker, he's going to ask for 45 a year and back it down. But do either one of you think just knowing the history with the agent, there's history there, right? There's a very high water level under that bridge, right?

22:56And just knowing things you've heard, do either one of you think he is going to play on the franchise tag or do you think he's not going to step foot into training camp until he gets a deal? Well, I don't think he'll do any of the offseason workouts. I don't even think he'll go to training camp. Right. When it gets down. I don't think Godboards really want him in training camp after the last experience. Me, that, that, that in training camp thing, it can hurt you. Right. It can hurt you if he doesn't have a deal. Yeah. A hold in. Yeah. A hold in can hurt you. You sign that contract. And hold in. Now I find somebody to say he's hurt. You say he's fine, but I can find somebody to say he's right. So now you got to pay him and he's just sitting there. So you're tagging him, right? Yeah. He didn't, he didn't sign it. Right. Do you just either go get the deal done?

23:57Because I don't want to go through this again. And I don't think they do either. I think if I was them, I would be like, look, that was bad. This bad PR was bad. The outcome was not great. Now it all worked out in the end, right? Everything. But it could have gone really south and really, it could have gone, it probably should have gone a lot worse than what it did. Do you just say, hey, we either want him or we don't? Let's sign him or just, let's move on. Let's don't do this whole song and dance and hey, we're going to franchise him and then he's not going to sign it. We're not going to put like, what do you, what would you do at this point? Well, you would think they would, it seems like these negotiations that the player always winds up getting what he wants anyway. So you would hope that, but it gets in the point like Cowboys may pay him CD lamb money or whatever they shouldn't, but they, they, they may. But you know, pickens guys, maybe he has to for 40, you know, and you, you can't pay him more than you're going to pay the kid up in Minnesota or it's an adi and like, you

25:03know. You know, I'm a green, I'm a green with your current because I just believe this right here. But I believe you 100% on that's how I felt from day one after he came in and started to perform how he was a, you had to make a decision, you know, and I know things change over time. Do you want to want this kid? If you didn't really want this kid, get him, hit him with, yeah, hit him with something respectable, you know, but this is what I always say and I, I'm saying respectable, hit him with CD money. That's respectable. Mm-hmm. And if you say no, okay, now you know what you had, but if you don't hit him with nothing but a tag and it's an exclusive tag that's three or four million dollars up under the none exclusive tag, what does that say to him? Right. You're going to piss him off. Yeah. Like, that's what I'm saying. Let's see. If you want him, get him and you know, people say, well, what is he worth?

26:05Okay. And I know things go up depending on your age, okay, we got him as a third round for a third round pick. Everybody was elated. Everybody laughing. Everybody. Oh, we got Pittsburgh. Guess what, y'all? We just got what most people think of 42 million dollar deal with a first and at least a second or a third is when a team is looking at this thing come draft day. Hey, Mr. Jones, we'll give you a first and a third because we got to pay this kid at least 35 million plus a year. Are you willing to do it? And I'm with you. If you don't want this kid, you get to me if you get through the draft and you don't have a deal and you're still planning on tagging him. I think it's, you're in trouble. Like, I don't think this guy's going to play on the tag.

27:05And then you got a big hole at number two, unless you think Ryan Flornoy is going to step in and be George Pickens, which he's not. Then you're going in with a lesser offense, which if it's fine, if that's what you want to do, go do it. But don't, don't get let this thing get to, you get through the draft. You want to see what somebody will give you great. You get into May, June, do either make a deal or just be like, we, we are planning on not riding with this guy this year. If you're going into the draft within the same position where he hadn't signed, there's really not been any negotiations that we know of, does wide receiver become a bigger priority in the draft? It doesn't because you want, I don't think it's a guy that's going to demand that early respect over him. So now that pick at 20, we talked about, if it's any tackle that can really play, not

28:06a suspect tackle. If he suspects, just keep right on right into the next most valuable player. But if he can, if he can play, you get that tackle. I don't care if he a right tackle, love tackle, under tackle, over tackle, you get to tackle. Yeah. Don't get the receiver. Get the tackle because they are not, I repeat, George, they're not, George, they come on now. Let's don't play. This league is of what's known because this is the other guy that we can't mention his name that we talked about that we could have had. Now they're talking about, they're circling background, talking about coming at this kid again. Now, man, now I want to go with the known is what I'm trying to say. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't, I would love to see him on the team. I think him and CD, especially giving him another year, with Dak, this offense, short of that offensive line a little bit, I think they could be the best wide receiver duo in

29:07the league. For sure. They were it last year. Right. But if you, if you choose to not go that route, that's fine to, if you don't want to spend that kind of money. You don't want to spend that money. Great. Let's save it. Let's put it somewhere else. We're doing things different, right? We've seen things being a little different, we, unless you ask Jesse, he, he still convinced it's the same old same old. But let's do it different. Like if you want the guy, it's like a baseball car. What, what's his value, no matter what his value is, what do you, what are you willing to pay for that card? Yeah. If you're willing to overpay for it, that's the value. If you don't want it and you're underpaying, that's the value. The value is what you pay. Yes. Let's make our minds up before we go, before we get on the plane to go down there, let either do it now or just don't do it. So that's my whole opinion on that thing. Yeah. I'm with you. You're welcome. I need to do it. I don't have a lot of opinions on this show, but that was one of them. It's, it's a sound like that Chris.

30:07It's a sound. Yeah. But the thing, the thing is two things, one thing that I like, and Mr. Jones said is no more red shirts. Yeah. No more getting guys with the second and third round pick, getting a guy pulling him back into the first round, they shouldn't have not even been drafted to the, to the second day. And no more, okay, he went through his whole career, injured. No more of those guys. That's, that's a great thing. It's not to say that a guy can't come here and get injured, but I would like to at least have a head. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. No injury. And the best player possible is a good thing. If you don't have a outstanding need, well, we don't have an outstanding need. So the best player possible is the greatest thing for the Cowboys. All right. Let's take our last break when we come to the thing. I don't know about that one. What's that? We don't have any outstanding needs.

31:09No, no, no. We don't have like, we just need. We got to have a left tackle, we got to have, oh, man, left, oh, we got to have a left tackle. Well, we need a lot, we need a lot backer. You have, you have so many outstanding needs and not one outstanding need. We can take the grandma bad, I don't understand you editing the game. You have options, yeah. Of course. Yeah. A lot of good options. Yeah. All right. Let's take our last break when we come back. More football. We don't try to talk about things that we might not be able to talk about, but we'll word them in a way that we think. Yeah. We talked about this kid earlier in a year, so you can go back and talk. Yeah. We'll talk to Chris in the break and see what we can get away with. Yeah. Turn in to see what that is next. I'm going to hang out with the boys. Yeah. Lowe's nose. Sundays are for football. So tackle your home improvement projects by Saturday and earn your Sunday with great deals on algae and posture appliances. Select bounty and swift for cleaning products and more than once you're to do this is done. Get ready to kick back, relax and enjoy the game.

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35:22Man, I drove in Texas, Diesel is almost $5, it's over $5 a gallon. Diesel? Yes. Diesel's more expensive than that. And they were from $4, $70 to $5, $15, $5, $20. Jeez. Is it cheaper out west? Spots. Yeah. Spots, but the gas out west, these out west are a better grade because of the changes in elevation a lot. A lot of people call care a better top to your gas. Is your truck diesel? Yeah. It is? Yeah. So you have diesel in regular? Did you? But I mean, in your other vehicle. So my wife is that premium gas. Okay. So we plan premium prices. Oh. Not good. All right. We were talking earlier before the show started. We're trying to figure out a way that we could talk about this. But it's been reported. So we'll just quote the source that reported it. And then some news came out when the cowboys were in the mix for the Max Crosby deal with

36:22the Ravens. Went through. Everybody knows the deal fell through because of a failed physical or some issues with the physical. And then I think a couple of days ago, it came out that what the cowboys actually offered, right? Yeah. Yeah. ESPN did a big report on it. And the cowboys seemingly were more serious than maybe we thought. Their initial offering, according to ESPN, was a second, their second first round pick. So 20th overall and OSA eventually went the 49ers. They came back and said they would offer them the higher of the pick, the 12th overall with a third rounder, which at the time would have been next year, probably because I have a third. Ultimately, their finer offer was a number 12 overall and a second round pick like next year. Right. Wow. And they went with whatever ball. I don't even remember what Baltimore offered them, but yeah, cowboys made a pretty serious run there. I'm with Nate. And I think my mentality over the last probably five years on this has changed.

37:25Every draft pick, even if it's a generational guy or, you know, you know, you always have that chance of just just say cow pits, for instance, right? He was a generational tight end. Good. But not worth a top five or 10 pick, right? What do you go at? He went top five, I think. Yeah. So that you're always rolling the dice. When you've got a known commodity, even if they're a little long in the tooth and you only get maybe a couple of you, you know what you're getting. Like you know, you're getting that. And to me, spin, spin draft capital, spin the unknown to get the known is what is what I say. So I'd have been down for all those deals. I mean, first, second, and I mean, you wanted to move on from OSUS contract anyway, throw them in there. I mean, you got a third for him. If you really want this, goes back to if you really want the guy, go get the guy, right? And you know, football, right, that's, that's the most hurting thing.

38:28When you're doing the draft picks, and like I said, when I go watch these kids, I'm looking at them. And you can tell kids that love, like I looking at one lineman, he just don't have the athletic ability, but he was one of the best technicians. He's always giving that effort to you saying, I wish this guy was in this guy. Athletic ability was in this guy with all this heart and all this technique, you know, which Rudy was in Darnell Jefferson's body, right? Right. And so I'm saying to myself, I left her, glad I, glad I went there, saying, well, I'm so glad. Ain't no coach got to get up. Watch this film. I left her saying, Lord Jesus, because I'm not finished to bait you on whether you should bend your knees or not, why you can't bend your knee. Can you tell when you, and I would always do this when we really pick the draft picks up with the Cowboys, when they get on the bus, you get to spend a little bit of time with

39:29them, you know, from the airport to here. And I could just get a feel if a dude loved football. Like if he really was a football guy, or if he was just like an athlete that was playing football, with just spending 15 minutes with him, I could, like, I felt like I could. And then that would always make me question like, so you watching them extra close now. Yeah, you, you watch, yeah, but it always makes me wonder, like, okay, what did they, what did the guys that brought them in for the 30 visits and what did they see that I'm not seeing? Because I don't know if this dude loves football. Athletic ability. Are you on that Mazi Smith bus or something? I wasn't on Mazi, but I was on, I was on one of the Taco Chau, Taco, Taco, Taco, and I'd have been that guy. And I just got the feeling like you're in love with the idea of playing football, but I don't know if when coaches make the mistake of saying, I got a relationship with somebody, you know, that's like me and the beautiful girl at the club.

40:31You think you got a relationship. No, she's in the get, she's in the get with, she's in the get, you, you're in the get left at all. That's just the bottom line. It's so simple now. It's, you invite a kid in and they say, well, my mom and dad didn't want to come. That used to be a great thing 20 years ago. That used to, oh, you want your mom, oh, cool, mom, dad, spread them where you could talk to the dad. Hey, man, what you think? Dad trying to, you know, hey, hey, I'm back in you coach, I'm in line with your things. Now, you know, you, you get ready to get on the bus, go to a bowl game, you're bringing any kids, you got to bring an extra bus to bring the family. These people ain't loving football, they love them with football and do for them. And so, and you're never going to ignore talent. You're never, you're never going to ignore, especially exceptional talent. You're going to Alabama, say, now we through which after a year, but, but Texas ain't

41:35no, you know, got a guy, some man, hey, coach, I coached this kid, all you got to do is do this. Go to Texas. Coping like, man, don't you ever call me again, talking about, because now, now he, he's over, uh, North Texas. And now the kid and the family realizing, hey, man, you better do the right thing. You know, now this kid go blow up at universal North Texas because he went from 1.5 to 1.5 to 1.5, you know, then if you go do the 150 right, you go back up to three minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You suddenly fall back in love with football. Yeah. Yeah. So I just tell people like this, it's about the money and it's about, but if you love football, you know, I listen to the, uh, this, the network, NFL network, radio and TV, I, I, I,

42:38the religious list, listen to it because it's football people talking. And this kid, a recently signed with, with the Seahawks, you couldn't get no one, nowhere to say anything of, he shouldn't have got this contract. No, I mean, nothing, nothing. You know, I, I even heard one guy say, I don't know, he probably did wrong with signed the extension. He should have told me one of his money now, right? That's not the worst. But that's the kid from long distance that we know love football, long distance. I, we don't know, you know, had my Harrison know the kid and I've always taught that before he signed, he talked highly of it, highly of it, but after he signed, all he wanted to talk about was what George was going to get and I was trying to say, hey, oh, you're horses. You're talking about two different kids, two different organizations with two different

43:38histories. Mm-hmm. See, uh, yeah, the Seahawks get way out in front of that conversation. Yeah. Yeah. That hasn't happened much. And, and, and he wasn't stoved anywhere, you know, like, remember now, just a year ago, we laughed when we got over Pittsburgh, we got, now we're saying, hmm, hmm, got even Shannon with opinion. I want him signed, now I go. Yeah. I mean, it's easy, but I mean, it's easy for me, you know, man, I'm like, he don't do this to me again. Right, right. And you know what? Like, he wasn't the word on the street was he wasn't the easiest person to deal with in Pittsburgh. Right. And I ask you a question, is it these players or is it Pittsburgh? Right. Right. Because a lot of them, a lot of them had issues in Pittsburgh, like, we've never really had, we've had a couple of dudes that, you know, cussed folks, some meetings here and this and that. Right.

44:38But a lot of it's per game. But see, this is the funny thing that a lot of teams, how players like that keep the great, you know, but what trumps all is talent better you play than more you can put up it. Right. Yeah. Right. Even here, T.O. Right. Dazz. But you know what happens when you all that's just that's just T.O. That's just Dazz. You know, he. And to that, that's the ability. And then it's like, well, you get the salt and pepper, you know, you get the salt and pepper chicken. Over here's the cowboys over here, so you say, but hey, we got to go with this. For the cowboys. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I don't know. So back to the original thing with the Crosby deal. Yeah. There's only two, maybe three edge rushers in this league that I would give up first round collateral to bring them in. That's right. Yeah. Right. Right. What would, what would your, what would both of your max, max, no pun intended, offer

45:42a B for like a top tier edge rusher, if you were going to trade for a guy, would you give, you could have had to 12, I mean, if you could have had to, you know, seal it, the 20th, you could have had to 20th, you could have had Olsa, and I'd have gave you a second or a third. Yeah. I wouldn't, I'd have done that. I wouldn't give up both firsts, but I would definitely, I would give up to 12th. It was, would you do a 12, a three and Osa or a, yeah, that's the perfect for me. Say it again. 12, three and Osa. Yeah. Yeah. I would probably hope that three would be next year, but, you know, see, the, the thing is, that would fix a whole lot of stuff, how, how, how desperate are you? How, I'm always, I'm talking, I'm talking about, I'm talking about the guy that want to get rid of them. Right. See, the, I think the Raiders can't go wrong if they keep it. I think they can't, you got a guy that loves his sport. He's got, he's got some players around him now.

46:43Yeah. He's got a better move. Yeah. So he, he, he loved the sport and he won a win. So you can't go wrong with having a guy like that. I, I, I've always, er, you know, I always wanted to go with the people that's positive about your program and love the sport. But, you know, how bad does, to me, to me, it's, it's, it's, it's, what do you want? Okay. Because guess what? You get a guy like that in here. Well, you get a guy like that in here, all of a sudden, guess what? Your cornerbacks play a little bit better, your safeties don't, don't have to cover for as long. You're, you're linebacker, you still got a fix, but like a lot, when that, when that window goes from four and five seconds that you have to pass to 2.3 to three, that, that makes a, a mediocre secondary, pretty damn good with one guy. And that's what we'll be giving up if we don't sign George.

47:44Right now, that can drop back and throw that thing in 2.5 seconds because he got in the majority of the time. He know he's going to hit home. Now, George leave and they double CD and all of a sudden we got the guy, the guy can't work free. Not that three point. Oh, yeah, Jack just got certain does that, you know, don't you call that name, not, not again. Not again. Not again. Not again. Oh, hi fellas, we're out of time. Kurt will save the rest of your bullets. Oh, it was great, man. It was good stuff. That was good stuff. Great insight, Nate. Yeah. That was good stuff about Colorado and Dion and the, and the, the new, the new wave of athlete. Yes. Very insightful. So good stuff, Jesse. We'll see you next week. Chris, thanks for keeping us on there. No cookies for the big boy. Be back. Oh, don't do that. Next week. Hey. We're out. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys.com and the Dallas Cowboys football club. Have a big cowboys.

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