H2 Frank Opinions, What in the World, Jack?

0:00Celebrate the holidays at Advent Health Sports Park December 20th. Start your day with brunch and bowling with Santa at 10 a.m. Then hit the ice for skating with the Grinch at 2 p.m. Festive fun, photos and family memories all in one magical day. Don't miss it at Advent Health Sports Park. Our number two of the program begins with Frank Bull in studio. It's my favorite thing to do when filling in. Round tables. There you are. Especially with you, Frank. There you go. Thank you. Yeah. Good meeting with you, Jack. Yeah. It always works out when I get to hop on a Tuesday. Yeah. Here and what better way to with March Madness, the World Baseball Classic, NFL free agency. I doubt we'll touch on any NBA in this segment today. I don't think nothing pressing, nothing pressing. I don't think I've ever been in your feet. I'm not in the NBA. Well, then we're not going to throw it. What do you think about? Yeah. Don't need to. Yeah, yeah. You know, we forget about that, that teammate that they promised us. Yeah. The Brent Center to be the, you know, maybe the only thing that they changed names of the

1:05Center before the NBA team came here. That's right. The only NBA related question we'd ask you is, who's going number one? And that ties in here locally. Yeah, that's true. That might be the extent of what we got here. We talked about you filling out a bracket. Yeah. We've all filled out a bracket. And we spent a lot of time yesterday talking about KU seating. We spent some time talking about Mizzou, their Tennessee and St. Louis, our dark horses. But you're exactly right. And we were speaking about this off air. Us radio folk, us sports folk go chalk too many times. Because it's just easy to go. My final four is all one seats. And in years past, I would say, I'd say it's stupid to do that. That's just not realistic. We haven't had it too many times. Then you've seen the last couple of years where so many one seats are getting there. Because they're that dominant. I don't know how I could pick against Arizona. Yeah. I don't know how I can pick against Florida. Duke surprisingly considering their injuries. It's the only one I'm up in the air about.

2:06And their region is filled with a bunch of blue blood coaches. That could run into an issue there. It's still players. It's not coaches. Yeah, I guess. I guess. But I would say that these one seats though, they are the true alphas right now in the tournament. Some years, it's you get a one seed who dominated a weaker conference. You get somebody who still has five or six losses. All of these teams barely lost it all this year. And they have the players, right? And we're talking about here, star level players, NBA talent. And for some of these teams, it just matches up so well. That's why I went chalk. I'm boring. I don't have too many upsets in my bracket last year I did. And it didn't work out that way. There were very few upsets that truly happened. Is there any upset so far that you like or are you more so looking at these one seeds? You know, you can go through the, you know, the beginning of the bracket and sort of pick stuff out. But when you get right down to, you're down to, you know, your elite eight. I've got Duke and Louisville with Duke winning.

3:08I've got Florida and Houston, but I've got Houston beating Florida. So I've got Houston going to the final four. I've got Duke going to the final four. You know, and I've got Arizona and Gonzaga and Arizona going to the final four. And then Michigan and Iowa state. And I've got Iowa state going to the final four. That's a popular pick too, because I was dancing right. Yeah. Yeah. Kyle's got Iowa state. So that would give me three big 12 teams in the final four. Houston's going to be in Houston too, right? Yeah. I think they're really good. I mean, relations. Yeah, you bet. I mean, they're really, that's a good and a great coach. I mean, he's an awesome coach. I think he's terrific. I generally start out trying to, I'll have teams that I think might go. And then I'll like, all right, I don't want too many ones. I don't want too many teams from one coach. Yeah, right. What's the best way that I can put together a final four, or I don't look like I'm, I'm doing this. Because if you just went through each game by game by game, you're like, oh, crap, I have four ones and I have, you know, whatever.

4:09That's why I have Duke Michigan State in the East with Duke winning. I have Florida, Illinois in the South with Illinois winning, because they're such a good offensive team, and they can play some defense. The only issue is they don't, it free throws very well, but that's one of the best offensive. I trust offense a lot more as a driver in the tournament than defense. Arizona Purdue with Arizona getting, and then Michigan State Iowa State with Iowa State in. So to make sure I have, I don't have three teams from one conference, and I don't have three number one seeds. So I have like a one, three, two, one. And it's a ACC Big 10, Big 12, Big 12. This is going to be slightly off topic of the teams we've been discussing. This came across my Twitter feed yesterday, and I talked to Curtis about this. Hawaii getting Arkansas. Arkansas seems to be a lot of people's darling. Yeah. Because of Derrius Acuff, Billy Richmond, Travon, Brazil, the former Missouri Tiger, and John Calipari, getting them to the sweet 16 last year,

5:09led by double digits, with under five to go against Texas Tech, then they collapsed. They have a better team this year. What I wanted to discuss, that I don't know if you know this just yet, Hawaii. They're not ranked very highly in Kenpom, but I saw this tweet where they're starting five, is I believe it goes six three six five six six six six eight seven foot, or maybe it's six three six six six eight seven foot. What I'm trying to get at here, they're incredibly long, they're incredibly tall, and they have this unique defense. So if you're into picking upsets, I doubt it's going to be against Arkansas, but I want to say they don't switch anything. Like they have this unique no switching and drop defense that is led to a lot of fast break in transition. I don't know if that's really going to work against Arkansas, who might be one of the faster teams in the country, but when you're picking upsets Frank, do you look for little nuggets like that, where it's this random size of a team, we've probably not watched one game of all season long,

6:10is it a team like high point that can score better than a lot of teams out there, or is it the teams that are so slow, where they want to get into these 55 to 58 games, they take 25, 28 seconds off the shot clock and get a great look. I thought last year, that was Drake. Drake was a team with Ben McCollum, who wanted to slow everything down. Missouri was incredibly athletic, incredibly quick and way more physical. It seemed on paper than Drake, but they rebound, get the one and done, they didn't have a lot of size and they just slowed the tempo down. Is that how you pick your upsets is more so the unique style, or is it a, it really is a coin flip? It's a random thing that happens and there's really no perfect science to it. Yeah, I, you know, I, I, I, he picking the teams like you, you're talking about a high point now. I think let's go years, Pat. Let's go take before NIL and before transfer. Okay, let's go back a few years. You would normally look at the conference,

7:11then at the team and just go like say high point back in those days. Yeah. Maybe they, they won their conference and they're coming in no chance. You got no chance against whomever you're going to start. Who's high points starting with? Wisconsin. Yeah, you have no chance. Yeah, one of the highest points in the country. Okay, you just go, there's just no way. Now, the couple of those high point guys might have played for Wisconsin. Yeah. Okay. And the whole thing. So you really have to, I think it's harder than ever to pick the NCAA tournament now. Although the rich always get richer because they have more money with the NIL to be able to pay these great players from these other schools from these conferences like, you know, you can come from St. Bonaventure. Yeah. Oh, who we got there. You know what I mean? One of those is from St. Bonaventure. What was he doing there? Well, St. Bonaventure gave them, you know, half a million dollars. Now, Kansas is going to give them two million dollars. So it's, it's just one of those things too. So I think it's harder than ever to pick that because we don't know who high point has on the team

8:13and where they're from. Yeah. Okay, you don't know Hawaii. Where have those kids, where have those kids come from? And who they play for? And, you know, who's the coach? And has he been successful in the past? Is it just the kids? Or is the kids and the coach? You know, because when was the last time Hawaii was in the tournament? I was thinking the same thing. I don't have a slice idea. The last time Hawaii was in the tournament. So it's just one of those things where teams now can change so quickly year to year. You know, you could have a team that's at the bottom half of your conference. And all of a sudden they bring in two or three transfer kids out of the portal. And the next thing, you know, they're winning a conference, a winning conference, and going in as a top four senior NCAA. So it's a big deal. Rarely, I think do those upsets happen because of a factor that you could have seen before. I think sometimes it's just some team. One team hits shots here. The team doesn't. And some team gets on the run. I think it's almost impossible to look at and go,

9:14well, this is the status. This is the matchup that this team can struggle with. That's why I think that's going to happen. Many times someone says, this is a bad matchup for this five-seat, this 12-seat. They can do this, they can do this, they can do this, they can struggle with this, and then the five-seat wins by 15. Yeah. It's those things you couldn't do. To me, you're almost never predictable. You can predict that something's going to happen. There have been a few things you like, boy, that team looks sharp and they're really playing hot. But that's about all I think I've ever been able to put into something that seems to have any kind of reliance is direction of the team. Yeah. A five-seat, which is a power five team that maybe is sliding a little bit. A 12-seat, there's been 114 straight and they won their conference tournament or whatever and they're out there. I might look at that, but matchups to me are almost impossible because even between teams that are good, you know a lot about. What's a better matchup or a worse matchup for a team that struggles scoring? Is it a team that has a great defense

10:14or is it a team that can score enough points where you can't get to it? That's really hard to determine because there have been examples where each one of those matchups has been a problem. This is how the game plays out. There's so many elements that are involved with that. I look at Missouri and Purdue and I think if Missouri gets past Miami Purdue is such a good offensive team. I could just see them just destroying Missouri. Is that the worst team or would it be a team that can really lock down and take away everyone? Like Houston? And can pressure you into making mistakes and you can't score enough points. I don't think there are any solid gold. Well, if this and this meet, this wins. Yeah, I don't think there's any of that. I always like defensive teams that are highly ready to defensive teams. Good basketball teams are good conferences that have great defenses.

11:14You know, and I take Houston, Arizona, and Duke. I will state, okay, yeah, they're pretty good defensive teams. Well, they both had tremendous competition all year long. That's a big deal to me. Because a Cinderella team is Cinderella because we're going to do this just before midnight. Okay, you know, we're going to get this game in early. We're going to upset somebody, you know, when the 16s beat a one, they had a night. They're not going anywhere after that night, but they had a night. And that's where you get, because those teams rarely advance and keep on going. Second round is after, once you get to the that first weekend, teams, double digit seeds who get to the lead eight or the year 16, rarely go any further than that. There have been a couple of teams. But for the most part, that's where you, you can't win that many games in succession against against really good teams. I generally like to favor teams that are good offensively, because they can win really any kind of game.

12:15If they play a defensive team, they can, they've got enough players to overcome it, maybe. And if they get into it offensively, you know, they're never, at some point you might find yourself down 10. Yeah. No matter who, can you come back from that? That's what worries me about Kansas, is if they get down 10 to somebody, can they come back from 10? They did it once earlier against TCU at home. But a team like Iowa State, who can score at will, teams like Arizona, if they have any kind of issue, they've got the offensive players to dig themselves out. They can win a game in any range. A team that just relies too much on defense really can only win a game, to be a lower score. It's hard for them to win a game up in the 70s and 80s. Right, that's why I like a good, a highly ready team that's good defensively. Yeah. You know, because they can, again, like you said, Chris, they can win it either way. Yeah. I think I mentioned this about Illinois. It's actually Iowa State, I was referring to. They have a really good offense, obviously. They have a really good, they have very good defense.

13:16The problem is they don't shoot free throws very well. And you kind of wonder in a close game. Is that going to trip them up? But I think they have been greatly undervalued, not by the committee, there are two. But that's one of those teams. So they were a five-seed in their own conference, their own conference tournament. Yeah, and they're a two-seed in the NCAA. That's kind of, I think that's an indication of just how strong that team is. My team, I'd really like to see do well, just because I'm going to like the coach and the fact that they've never won an NCAA tournament game is Nebraska. You know, Fred Hoyberg has done, I mean, that's a incredible job. He's done there. Last time they were even, was it Danny Knee? Most last time they were in, Chris. It's been a while, isn't it? Might have been. I'll look at that. But they never won a tournament game. Hoyberg was always one of my favorites, even though he played for Iowa State in those days. But he was always one of my favorite college basketball players. I just loved the way he played. And, you know, both ends of the court. He could score. He could play defense. He could do it all. And I think he's imparted that knowledge to those kids from Nebraska,

14:17and has done a heck of a job. So I'd love to see them win at least a game and just go from there. So I haven't, I haven't gone to the second round. I forget. They've got a nice boy. That's right. And then I haven't been beaten by Vandy. You know, it's, it's one of those things, too, which is the tough part about the tournament of Nebraska's been such a phenomenal story all season long. And they've just had this hanging over their head that they've never won a tournament game. And they were top ten at one point. They were competing with Michigan, and they were competing with Purdue and Michigan State. They had all these close games, Illinois. They had knocked off in champagne. And now you look at this game. And it's, it's the downside to the tournament of if they do lose what it erases, what they were able to accomplish all season long. And are you one of those people, Frank, where when you've got these teams that had extraordinary regular seasons, I'm not saying Nebraska's was extraordinary. It was very good by their standard. Take Arizona, for example, who has lost twice this year.

15:18They started 23 now. Toughest conference in college basketball. They run away with it. They win in Kansas City. If they lose in the round of 32 or the sweet 16, are you one of the people watching this sport saying, well, I mean, this team will largely be forgotten because of how it ended. Or are you the give it time, give it a year or two? Because that was a team still that was the best in college basketball. And one night, one day, they just didn't have it for all 40 minutes. And that brought their season to an end. It's tough because here locally, I'd imagine that's how Kansas fans feel a lot, where there were some really good teams that dominated in big 12, one in Kansas City, dominated in the first weekend, would lose in the sweet 16 elite eight. And they're nowhere near, as remembered or revered as 2022, 2008, 2012, even though in 12, they lost to Kentucky. It's that if you don't win it all, you're just not as remembered. And you'll be seen as that team

16:18that choked when it mattered most. Do you look at that way? Or is it a, hey, they still won 30 freaking games and one of the toughest schedules we've seen in a long, long time? Yeah, I think they'll get crucified only because of the day and age. Yeah. Okay, my starting ceremony is three million a year. This guy makes two, what are you doing? How could you possibly lose to that team? That you make more money than their entire budget for their basketball team? Yeah. Okay, so what are you doing? And I think that's the way it's going to be. Who has a Dickinson today? You're talking about Dickinson and his deal about the Kansas fans and all that sort of stuff. Oh, they'll meet to me. I don't care. How much were you getting paid? Those kids are paying to go to school. The alumni had paid to go there. Now, son, you're a pro. As far as they're concerned, you're a professional player. A lot of these kids don't go to class. Sorry. They just don't. And so they are there. They're the play basketball. So if you're number one overall seed

17:18or you're number one seed and you've got 10, 12, 15 million dollars laid out to pay your college basketball team, you better perform in the postseason. Well, what's interesting about it too when it comes to the Dickinson comments that were posted today, I can't remember what podcast he was on, but in saying, you know, at times, I felt like a job. I wasn't even looking forward to the games. It is a job. What it's been amazing to me is that it's just because social media nowadays. We're seeing more of this of players saying, you know, I get, you know, messages. I'm not saying that I don't advocate for anybody getting hateful and terrible messages towards a college athlete. They're playing a game at the end of the day. But what I always say is this. This is not new. This has happened in sports forever. Oh, sure. Where when guys weren't making money, they were getting hateful things set about them. They'll threats toward them. And it's a different era, as you said, where people just aren't going to care in the same way about professionals, right? And you can maybe call college athletes now professionals in the NFL or major leagues or the NBA.

18:20If you don't live up to the contract, you get a lot of criticism. If you're not winning, you get a lot of criticism. And most of these kids have never really experienced it to that level. And certainly if you go to a blue blood, it's ramped up. You know, Hunter Dickinson was at Michigan. We now know that their number one seed, they're a great program now. And they've had some runs with the fab five and stuff like that. But overall, I would say that football dominates in Ann Arbor, right? We know it dominates. We're in basketball. It's Michigan lost 14 games and Hunter Dickinson averaged 18 and 12. Nobody was heavily criticizing him. You come to KU as the number one portal guy and you're seeing as this savior for, you know, the Bigs with Bill Self and you never got out of the round of 32? Yeah, there's going to be some criticism. And no, nothing should ever go too far. But I have seen a lot of people today mainly because they just did not like that KU team whatsoever. They did not like him. No, that's for sure. And to hear that there were guys

19:21that were basically wishing for the season to end and get back in the portal. I mean, that is the unfortunate part now where, you know, with some of these tournament runs, Frank, most of these guys are going to go to different schools next year, no matter who you are. Absolutely. Especially if it's a kid from Hawaii who all of a sudden, he's a sophomore or whatever he is and turns it on. Next thing, you know, he's got 20 coaches beaten down his door. And the other thing about it too is gambling. Gambling is a big deal. You know, you get a college kids are putting $20 down in their favorite team and the big star comes up shorter, cramps up or whatever and can't play. And I understand physical things and I think it's great that he came out and started talking about the full body cramp thing that we didn't know about. But it's still a situation where before they knew they were going, what are you doing? I've got $20 on this game. And now you're not there. And, you know, or he comes back going to put $20 down and he's back. And then they lose by 10th. And he doesn't do anything. I mean, it's a transfer portal

20:22it's the NIL and it's gambling. It's just, and these kids are all paid and are all pros to whatever level it may be. It's a level you play on. And so it's really interesting. The other interesting thing to watch for me will be Miamiville Highland. Oh, yeah. Everybody's watching the play in game against SMU to see how they do to see if what kind of fluke was this. I know their schedule was ridiculously easy. But, you know, to go into feed it to that whole time and finally get beaten, they still made it in play in game. They made it. So it'll be interesting to see how they do. Before I get off this, because I got it wrong earlier, I wanted to make sure I got this right with Hawaii because I know you referenced them again. Yeah. I finally got the starting five here. Seven foot, six, nine, six, eight, six, six, six, three. Oh, God. Here's the other part to this, where I was bringing out this unique defense. They don't play a help defense. Oh, really? With that size. Does that not surprise you? That with that size, no help defense. It's all, I'm assuming it's not just face guarding, but it's, it does not matter.

21:22And that's, that's why I would pick, see, with these, these matchups, you have a guy like Darius Acuff, make a lot of money, going to be a top 10 draft pick in the NBA. Do coaches change their game plan? Or do you say we've made it this far in this game plan? I mean, can you really trust somebody on Hawaii to go one on one with Darius Acuff the entire game? That's why it's like in the tournament, do these coaches, especially more so at the mid majors here. Do you have to change your game plan defensively or what you do offensively to tailor it toward the team you're playing? Or is it, hey, we're not going to change who we are now, right? It's a, if we don't do a help defense, we're not doing a help defense, no matter if this guy is putting up 50 on us. It's not how we play defense and bringing somebody over and leaving somebody open for a corner three or a three from the wing. That's why I imagine they do this because they don't want to leave somebody wide open. Then again, if somebody's getting just blown by over and over again, you might have to make that adjustment. That's what I find fascinating about the tournament

22:23is these smaller schools and playing the upset. Is it, we play our style? Or is it, we got to change it up if we're going to have any chance of meeting this team? They might practice it, practice a change, go in with a game plan. And if this kid has 30 and half time, we might have to adjust it half time and go back and try something else. Although I don't think they probably have anybody in the roster to keep up with them. I don't think very few teams in the country have something to keep up with them. But just because of their size, you just don't think they're going to be able to move that well, especially with a kid like that, to try to guard a kid like that. Miamiville, Ohio, real quickly, before we move on to our first break here and come back with Frank's opinions, 31 and 1. They lose in their, their conference tournament to Frank Martin of all coaches as well of UMass and they have to sweat it out a little bit. They're in the first four game against SMU, who by the way, basically got into the tournament with a couple of buzzer beaters earlier on in conference play.

23:23They had a half-court buzzer meter. They had a wild three-point buzzer meter, not long after that. So it's not like SMU has been riding high and then collapse late. With a team like Miamiville, Ohio, what side were you on when it came to the debate of, you know, they're outside of 350 and Ken Palm or whatever it was. They haven't played anybody and I always took it as they're not loaded like Gonzaga in their conference where yes, they should run the table and only lose one game. Miamiville, Ohio, as we saw in a lot of these games, were not much different than their competition, yet they just found ways to win. I get it's usually a one-bed league, but I was going to be pretty upset if they didn't get in because the storyline alone was important to me. If they lose by 35 to SMU, we have our answer. If you would have left them out of the tournament, we would have never known if their 31 and 1 was for real or if it was totally fraudulent because they weren't playing anybody. Yeah, no, I like to factor in.

24:23I think they did enough to go undefeated that entire time and lose then in the conference final and I'd just go, you know, give them a shot. Let's see, I mean, they're not going to the final four. No. Don't worry about it. Although you go on the other side and there was a team that they knocked out. Okay, there was a team that didn't make it that they got in the head off and that's the other side of the coin. You feel bad for that team. I'm not even sure who that team is. But I'm sure we could probably try to figure out with those players. I mean, all of the earners, yeah. Probably our burn. Nobody really had. No one wants to see another SEC team anyway. Right, Curtis? I'm good with no more SEC, especially all of them. Nobody had a really good enough resume. No. That deserved. To me, this is one of the first times I went, wow. Nobody, I really wanted to get in, got snubbed. Right. Miami, Ohio. If I was coaching or playing or a fan of Miami, Ohio, I would simply say, why the hell are we playing this conference tournament? Why even play the regular season if somebody who has 12 to 13 wins?

25:24I mean, even Ole Miss, who lost 20 games, was an overtime win away from playing in the SEC championship. Yeah. And that probably would have knocked Miami of Ohio out if they would have gotten in by beating, I guess it would have been Arkansas and then Vanderbilt in the SEC championship. But I'm glad they're in. You're glad they're in. Yeah. I'm sure they won't be the last time we're talking about Miami of Ohio for the rest of the show. Let's take a quick break here. Come back and go to Frank's opinions on the program. All right. The law fed a delicatessen in of the hour answer. What school has the most first round losses as the number four seed? I'm a signal that goes back to 1985. Most losses as a four to a 13. There are seven teams that have lost at least twice. One team has lost three times. Do you have a guess, Frank? No, I was going to say something like, you know, because Curtis is doing it like Missouri, something of that nature. Missouri has, Missouri has, is 0 and 1 as a four. Okay.

26:2487. All right. They lost. I feel bad to do this to our good friend Todd Liebow, but how about the Sooners of Oklahoma? Oklahoma. One and three all time. Their losses. The last one was in 2001 to Indiana State. They also lost in 95 to Manhattan in 92 to Southwestern Louisiana. Out. Other teams who have lost at least twice, UCLA, they're four and two. Indiana's two and two. Virginia two and two. Arizona two and two. Kansas State one and two. Vanderbilt is 0 and two. The case state losses. You see Irvine back in 19 and LaSalle back in 2013. They beat LaSalle oddly enough in 88. God. KU's only losses to Bradley in 2006. By the way, I looked this up. The last time Nebraska was in an NCAA tournament game was just two years ago. They lost to Texas A&M by 15. Only.

27:24She was looking. I don't know why I highlighted these two games. Hmm. I didn't think about that. They've not generally been close games. They lost by 15. They lost by 14. 9. 10. 14. 21. 5. And 8. So only twice. I don't know why I highlighted these. Only twice in those eight previous eight games have they been the higher seed. Yeah. They were six. They lost as a six to 11 and lost as a three to a 14 back in 91. So this is the first time they've had. They've been, I think, considerable favorite since at least 91 or at least 94. This is just the third time in their stretch that they've... That's more of a... Not that they've been a bad tournament team. It's just they haven't been a good enough team to get favorable matchups in the NCAA tournament. And I would guarantee they've never been a 13 and a half point favorite before an NCAA tournament game. At least not since 91. So by all expectations, that...

28:24That streak's going to end... Good. ...in this year. And it should. Good. And they'll join the ranks of teams who have won a game. Yeah. Will they party? Will they party hardy? Are they the last power five-ish school to not have a tournament number? I think there might be one other. One more? I don't know. We'd be here all day thinking about that. Yeah, that's like... You've just given me something to look up. Throw it in there. You know me. No, they're trivia questions. You know me well. People shoot me things like, dude. I kind of want to look at this. And I don't really have the wherewithal to figure out what it is. I'm like, oh, you came to the right guy. I think it was... Well, it was Price Carter, our friend Price Carter. I said, hey, if the chiefs do sign Kenneth Walker, how many teams have had two former Super Bowl MVPs? And I went, oh, you can't do that. That's right. Yeah, that's right. Because this is something this nerd would definitely like die into. Well, you need. You need those questions. An hour. For what you do. And I did, and I found out there was more than we would have thought. But he's like, if anybody ever wants me to look up something,

29:26don't think you're imposing. Yeah, a couple of times I've incurred as I hate to do this to you. And Curtis is like, what is? What do you got? Oh, oh, oh. Yes. They're always so well thought out, too. I don't mind. I can never get good trivia questions. So there are some times people say, hey, can you... Have you looked at someone like this? There's no way with normal, you know, research tools. I can look up. It's a good barbed. But still, if you have any questions, email me. Yeah. I'll see you all to the ATINWHB.com. Reach me up on, hit me up on Twitter. And just kind of ask me, I love to look for fun stuff. And it'll be a quick turnaround. Yeah, and I'll usually, if I do something, that's something I can do while I'm watching this game. All right, here we go. Frank Opinions. Where does Kansas's season end? First or second round? Sweet 16. Elite 8. Final 4, a national championship game. I haven't gotten beat by St. John's. Where is that? That is the... Round of 32. Round of 32. I'll say you're round of 32.

30:26I'm going... So, first or second round? Yeah, first second round is the first one. Yeah, first second round. Yeah. So, I'm going to say sweet 16. 63 percent said first or second round. 28 percent said sweet 16. About 4.5 percent said both Elite 8 and... Or a final 4 national champion. All right. Where does Missouri season end? First round, second round. Sweet 16. Elite 8 or later. I'll say second round. I'll go first round. 46 percent said second round. 44 percent said first round. 8 percent said sweet 16. 2 percent said Elite 8 or later. How many of the nine SEC teams advanced to the Sweet 16? I will tell you that three of them are... Top 4 seed. So, playing the seed would get them there. How many of the nine teams actually advanced to the Sweet 16? Three or fewer? Four or more.

31:26I'll say four or more. I got to catch up here. I'm going with three or fewer. 75 percent said three or fewer. Stop it, Jack. You're supposed to lose every time. Stop. How many of the seven big 12 teams advanced to the Sweet 16? Four of the seven are four seeds or higher. Three or fewer? Four or more. Three or fewer. I'll go four or more. 59 percent said three or fewer. What is high on the big 12, I guess? Either conference. I've got three in a minute, final four. Yeah, I'm kidding. Only those three. I'm just going to make it four or fewer or five or more. I thought it was going to be my slam dunk. It was like 95. I'm just going to move that number a little bit. A national champion will come out of what region east. That's the Duke region. South. Florida. Midwest, Michigan. West, Arizona. I just give you the one seed so you know what region talking about. East, South, Midwest, West. West. West.

32:26Number. Is that first time? I'm going to say four or four choices. Yeah. I'll go 46 percent. I was thinking about going higher too. But then I thought about the four answers. I know. 23 percent said east with Duke. How many one seeds will make the final four? One, two, three or four? I didn't use zero. Two. I'm going to say two as well actually. Number. I'll say 45 percent. I'll go 40. 49.2. 38 percent think three. First number one seed to lose will be Duke, Florida, Michigan, Arizona.

33:28First number one seed to lose will be... I'll say Michigan. I thought about Duke for a little bit because of the injury. I'll say Duke because the region and the injury to their point go. It's actually Florida. Number. Wow. 31 percent. 32. 47.7. 27 percent said Michigan. Why? 22 percent said Duke. Hate? I guess they don't know what has been dominant. Aside from their loss to Vandy. Yeah. I think they just think Duke and Michigan are... Maybe it's the back to back. Yeah. Welcome to Frank Appendian. No, serious. I mean, I'm talking about being awful at this game. How many brackets do you fill out? One, two, three, four or more? I'll say two. I'm going to say three. It's actually one, which is the correct answer, by the way.

34:28Okay. I'll say 45. 46. 53.4. 31 percent said two. I hear it's also when he posts. You fill out one bracket. Nobody cares what you do in your 13th bracket. That's fair. You do one. Will a Kansas or Missouri player be featured in one shining moment? Yes or no? Will they just appear in the montage? Winning or losing? I'll say yes. Absolutely, yes. Number? 90. Oh, 80. 89. 89. 52. 80. That video's wrong as hell. There's no hope. No hope. So we just don't think... I mean, here's how it happened. Yeah. Kansas, no matter what they do, they'll have one of them either looking depressed if they lose or emphatic if they're in the final four. Missouri, they just have to beat Miami, I think to be in.

35:28Because they can be showing the elation of winning one of the tournament games. 50-some percent? 52. To be left out completely. Even if they make it to the same genre. With two different teams. The song is like five minutes long. Is it not? If you're not included. Even if it'd be... Yeah. Bill with Rick. They know how... They know how he was going to have tons of... It's going to be 30 seconds worth of what the play in game is tonight. You heard this to... Yeah. The first time that song was played was the 87 final four. Do you know what it was originally intended for, though? Oh, was it the... I think it was just before. Who was it the NBA theme song? It was somebody else's theme song. It was going to be a montage to play at the end of... CBS did it at the end of Super Bowl 21. That's the Giants and Broncos. The Giants first... So it was going to be the NFL. It was intended for that. But they didn't have production-wise. They didn't have it ready to go. So it was an NFL deal, yeah. And it was... And it was used in the final four to 87.

36:29Written by some guy on a napkin while he was sitting in an airport waiting for a flight. He wrote the words down. He's famous too. Who's the... I don't know. Who did the music? I was... I don't know who... Dalgona. He's... Was it a famous composer? Yeah. He's a famous guy. He's a famous songwriter. I didn't know that. But the guy who wrote the lyrics was just sitting... A guy just sitting in the bar. Yeah. Just sitting in the bar somewhere. I mean, the Luther Vandross one is the only one that really matters. I mean, they should just use that one forever. R-A-P. All right. Let's see. Who were you rooting for last night? Venezuela or Italy? Italy. I think it's going to be Italy as well. Number? Mine. My turn? Reject. I don't remember. I think it's your turn, Frank. My turn? Okay. I'll say... 60. 50. 82.6. No love for Michael and Sally. Yeah. When did he change his name, by the way? Who?

37:29I don't know. I'm not sure. He runs the Rose Hall of Fame. Maybe there's always Michael. It's just the way it's spelled. He said in their 2026 media guide says Michael. Okay. We'll figure it out. All right. When does Kansas State make its first NCAA tournament under Casey Alexander? Next year, 2028, 2029 or later, they don't. This guy's won everywhere. He's been. So... I'll just for fun. I'll say next year. Just for fun. I'll say second year. 2028. Mm-hmm. 39% said 2028. 22% said, oh, and 29 or later. 21% said next year. Casey Alexander will win blank NCAA tournament games as Casey State coach then Jerome Tang compared to. Fewer, same number, more. Tang won three. They don't want to say more. I'll say fewer. 39% said fewer. 38% said more.

38:2922% said same. And the last one. Have you seen 2.1 pounds of marijuana? Yes. No. Or... Dude. Hey, how about no comment? No, no. I've never seen 2.1. I'm going off with the people are going to vote for. I'm going to say dude. Actually, it was said no was 75%. I was depressed. I was a little let down by... I like the answers. Although someone answered Pete says, what are you some kind of narc? I was hopeful. I know I didn't win any of those. No, not only that. 2.1 pounds. Vacuum packed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This close to the tournament, man. Dude, I grew up in Raytown. I had never saw 2.1. How about when it first all the stuff came out? He was going to play. He was going to play. Yeah. 17 points a game. And that's probably it for his college career. Yeah. That's a lot of pot, I would say. Okay, let's take our second to last break here of the second hour. When we come back, what in the world, Seren?

39:29But I guess Jack, on the program. All right, here we go. What in the world, Jack? Queens University is in the NCAA for the first time. Where's Queens University? New York. It's in Charlotte, North Carolina. I thought it was really interesting to ask that question. These guys are going, let's kind of be in New York City. No, it's not. It'll be one of the best picture, a picture, Oscar. Sinners. One battle after another. Best actor? Michael B. Jordan. Yes. Best sound. Oh, no. Come on, ease. This is easy. Best sound. Come on. Brad Pitt. Ah. Okay. F1. And who's visiting Villanova in June? I'm assuming you. The Pope. Come on, nice. The Pope will visit. One, one of five. One of five is not bad. It's usually four, but I give you a bonus. That's usually what my scores were in high school, too. All right, let's have it down next. All right, Kansas. One of three programs to be in the NCAA tournament for at least

40:31the 20th straight season. Name either of the other two. Brought to you by La Feta, delicatessen.