Got A Case Of The “Ick”?  It May Be YOU, Not THEM!

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3:03And we'll all find out together right now. There's anything in the world you can do about it. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ, one of our special episodes in which Robes does not want me to do any research about the topic. This one in particular has to do, Robes. Do I have it right? There is a thing called the Ick. It's real. You might have it. And can we do anything about it? Oh my God. I think everyone listening has had an experience of getting the Ick from someone they're dating, someone they may even be married to. Is that the official term of it? The Ick? Yes, it's been around for a while. I actually have some of the origins. We can get into all of that. The Ick. But the big headline here is the Ick might not be about them. It might be saying something about you. Can you define the Ick? Are we talking about just being turned off by the person you're in a relationship? Well, I have the Ick. I have a couple different definitions that have been offered to us by, I guess, professionals. The Ick can be described as the sudden loss of attraction towards a partner or a moment of romantic repulsion

4:04that feels disproportionate and difficult to explain. Like, you know you shouldn't be that turned off by something that's happening and yet you are. And it makes you want to run for the host. Okay. Can I? I know nothing about this. So I'm going to ask as we go along, are we talking about like a moment in which like there's a habit or routine or something that person does that doesn't do? Yes. Okay. All right. I have plenty of examples. Would you like me to get? Where would you want to start? So these are oftentimes minor behaviors, minor quirks, but they take over your brain and you can't forget them. So by the way, the Ick hashtag the Ick racked up nearly a quarter million posts in 2025 and counting like this is something that people are sharing and actually comparing notes with and finding a community like, okay, I'm not alone. But it's really interesting because what the therapists and the folks who study behaviors in human beings say, don't worry, doesn't mean you're superficial.

5:14I think sometimes I've definitely felt like that like wow, Amy, like come on, just move past this. It's not that big of a deal. Okay. It means you're human and maybe it means you're a little scared and we'll get into this because they describe having the Ick as actually a natural defense mechanism. And it doesn't always mean that you're incompatible with that person or that you're even necessarily turned off by that person. It could actually be a fear of vulnerability, a fear of intimacy. Then why? Okay, go ahead. I'm going to keep listening. Okay. Okay. So let me give you some examples. Okay. My favorite one actually came out of a headline this week, Eilah Fisher, actress who was once married to Sasha Baron Cohen. She is now dating post divorce and she shared this in a podcast. I'm going to say a word I wouldn't normally say, but she said it. Oh, God. So I think it's okay. But she talked about a dating Ick that she just had with a guy who she thought could go somewhere.

6:14She said, I really like somebody and his dog ran away. He chased his dog. But instead of chasing upright, he ran low with his hands outstretched like a cartoon. By the time he caught the dog, he lost the pussy. That's what she said. She was turned off by the way he ran. Yes. After this dog. Like he got so upset that his dog ran off the way he ran after his dog. She was just like, nope. Not dating him anymore. Okay. That's so is there anything wrong with that? Because we all have things. Do we not? We have are these not just, I don't know, we call them deal breakers, but that's behavioral. Right? That's somebody smokes or somebody does something. But Robes, there are certain people you're just not compatible with because we're, I can't be with somebody that does that. Okay. And yes. And that is character flaw against that person. But you do end up feeling superficial and I just think if everyone's being honest, they've had this experience.

7:15And what the, and we'll get into what the relationship, ship experts say they're saying don't run for the hills. Examine why you feel this very strong feeling of repulsion. Some other examples, noisy eating. No, he's eating is it okay. That's just an annoyance, isn't it? Does everybody get turned off by noisy eating? But anyone listening like a noisy eater? No, but we're talking about the fact that your reaction would be like, oh my God, I can never go on another date with this person. Yes, that should be. We're on date too. And you're, yes, exactly. I'm telling you though, sometimes you don't realize it when you're in the throes of love. And then you get deeper into a relationship and you think, wow, that is so annoying. And I can tell you, I am a huge culprit of this of just feeling that way. Some other examples, someone who poses oddly in photos, like it's just like, ugh, like an odd poser clapping when the plane lands.

8:16Someone described sudden karate moves after dinner, like some weird cork that somebody does, discovered that their date bought fake books to decorate their home. Like little things that shouldn't rise to the level of we're going to break up now, suddenly become an overwhelming feeling that you want to run. Okay, I got it. Someone else said playing non-stop Jimmy Buffett. Like it's things that you think you should be able to just ignore or move past, but suddenly they become like these huge eggs that you can't unhere, unsee or unremember. Okay, I have thoughts, man. Go ahead. I have so many thoughts, but I want to hear this out because so many of the things you are listing are genuine turn-offs. I think for a great majority of people and women, if you're being honest with yourselves, if you saw your guy, your man that you're dating, you know what?

9:18You know what? Take a run down the street. And his arms are to the side, like one of the kids from weapons. You would go, what the actual hell? And that's just, whoa, that's a weird thing. It's just, no, go ahead with the list. There was so many things you listed there. Well, I have some personal ones too that I could add. I'm along the same thing. Noisy eating. Noisy, everybody hates noisy eating. Noisy swallowing. We all hate that. That's not just an ick. But you should be able to look past that if it's someone who you say you love. Okay, yes, and you do. And we do. You're a very loud eater, baby. I know I am. You are the swallowing. I know. Look, swallow it, I'll give you because you always try to blame you. You have a narrow esophagus. I don't. But sweetheart, you are a very loud, like extra, it's noticeable. Have you thought about breaking up with me over it? I've had moments.

10:20Okay. Depends on how big the meal will. Okay. Also, I can tell you, like, it passed, like, the way someone sits. Someone who plays non-stop air guitar on a steering wheel. Someone who listens to one artist over and over and over again. I understand that. Clapping when the plane lands made me laugh because. Because you look at some, what are you doing, weirdo? That's what your response would be. Yes. Robes, that's weird. We just landed in Birmingham. What are you doing? I totally get it. Sudden karate moves after dinner. That made me laugh too. Just like weird, quirky behaviors. Like, what are you doing that is such a turn off. Ew. Robes. No, these are just, I don't want to call them X. Robes, it's eye behavior that make, you know what it is? You look at, when people do that, there was like, all sexual energy goes away. Yes. Like, I can't be turned on by somebody who does that.

11:21Like, when I started vomiting after the marathon and you said, damn, we're sexy. Yes. Like, I get that, but you were joking. No, but you were having a moment. Something with it, that wasn't a part of your character or who you were. Don't get me wrong. You're up chucking at the A-train. I don't want to have sex with you this. But it's, she's having a moment. This is different from behavior. Robes, there are things that people do that just make them just completely... The way they sneeze. Asexual to you. Yes, the way they sneeze. Like, there are lots of things that can just really get under your skin. And actually, people run for the hills. They avoid relationships when they see, but think about it. If someone is otherwise a wonderful human being and they have a couple things that are, like, if you see those and you think, oh, hell no, bye. That is what we're talking about. Where you actually will leave a relationship or walk away from somebody who... Otherwise, would have been a very... It represents something. ...datable, wonderful person. Maybe it represents something. You can have this wonderful guy who has bad habits around the house.

12:23He won't help clean. He won't pick up his 30 clothes. He won't do this. But he runs in a way you like. He protects you in the way he likes. He works hard in a way you like. He does all these things that still fit. He just has these annoyances. Robes, you are getting at the heart of what makes someone attractive. Yes. This is a matter of if this person does this, there is nothing in their physical... You can't make up for the attractiveness that's lost when somebody does something goofy. And I shared this with you before we got on. I actually had a conversation years, years ago with a therapist. Because I was experiencing the ICC. And I actually felt ashamed by it. Because I thought, wow, am I superficial? Is this just... I want to leave. No, because something particular... There were a couple things that were just... I felt like so turned off. And I was told that it was me afraid of intimacy. I was told it was my fear of intimacy.

13:23And that is exactly what several articles have specified about the ICC. Now, there are some questions you can ask yourself. Because there is... The some actually are... Okay. ...mourning signs that you should not be in a relationship with someone. But other times they say it doesn't mean that you're turned off or incompatible. That it actually could be a form of self-protection. And it could be a tool that you have employed without realizing it to distance yourself from intimacy when it begins to deepen. You believe that? I believed it at the time. Now I look back and think I should have listened to my spidey sense. You think I love Fisher is scared of intimacy because the dude runs in a way that turns her off. Yeah. She's scared of intimacy. This is what some therapists are saying. Some, okay. They say it often happens when the fantasy of someone of who or what someone could be falls apart. Like you're holding them up to this standard. And then the moment they do something you don't like, you're like, and we're done. And they're just warning people not to have a knee-jerk reaction when you get the...

14:25Do you have any other examples? No, no, no. Okay. And I was going to ask you, do you have, if you think back without getting specific obviously to your life and your dating history, were there things that you were like, deal breaker, I just got the Ick. I'm running, I'm not asking for a second date or a second date. Yeah. What were they? Do you remember some of the actual behaviors? I... You know what? Yeah, and one had to do with running. Okay, please do tell. This is funny because people can relate. It's funny because someone in the very public way ran towards me when we were reconnecting, hadn't seen this person in a while, and to be publicly running towards me, I was like, this is embarrassing. And I didn't like it. And I didn't want to be with that person anymore. Like, oh yeah, I made the right call. I swear yeah, I can remember that. It was like slightly from obsession, like way too excited to see me. I've had someone start dancing in like at a restaurant.

15:27That's, you know, it's not my lane. It's not what I do. It's just it, you're turned off because you can never get on the same page with that behavior. Yes, justiness. And it's fine for that person. I just, we are so opposed in how we are comfortable behaving in public that we are not going to be okay. And that's fine. Rob, there's some stuff you've taken me to, I've complained about this before. If I was dating somebody that was doing this, it'd be a problem. How you all sometimes get in some ice face and sing in a song. Oh, yes. That thing. I love doing that. It drives me crazy. I know it does. I try not to do it to you. It's such an issue. I'm going to ask my girlfriends. Oh, my God. Though we talked about this yesterday because this was on the list, burping in public. And look, some people think it's funny. Some people think it's okay. Someone did it while we were eating yesterday. Oh, that's right. I mean, just walked right by us and let out and just ripped a belch.

16:29And they're like, some people think it's funny and cute and hilarious. And other people, it's a total dick. We're not compatible. Absolutely not. But guess what the origins, they believe that the origins from just actually using the term. Obviously, people have felt repulsion from the beginning of time. But to give it the label, the Ick, it came from, and I know it's something you did not watch, but I did. The 1990s series, Ali McBeal. They started using getting the Ick. And I did not realize that that was the first time that phrase was uttered. And it has really, obviously, we're still, what, 30 years later. And now it's kind of taken on a new life and people refer to it. If you just listen to Gen Z years and they use it all the time. Oh, I did. Yeah, it started listening on television, maybe even Love Island, getting the Ick. People talk about the Ick all the time. Like you've heard this on Love Island? Oh, yeah, I've heard it constantly. So now it's funny to think that the origins were from 1990s sitcom Ali McBeal. But I- What did you do, the Ick?

17:29Oh, I have so many. Like I can actually go back and remember plenty of my Ick. Before you get to that, is the Ick? Do you have the same Ick? Does it carry over through every relationship? Or is the Ick specific to certain people? For me, it was, I mean, you can have certain things that annoy you. But for me, some of these Ick are very personal and specific. Okay. So what I'm saying, if you get, if I'm annoyed by somebody clapping when we land, I'm going to be annoyed when she does it. Or the next person I'm dating does it, or the next person I'm dating does it, is a, that's what I'm asking. I don't know. I don't know that. I don't know the answer to that. Because I wonder if you know someone's personality and it fits with their personalities and how you give them a pass because it works. It's authentic. And it's something about that person that you like. They're silliness. Like I look fish. I look fisher. She'd had more time with this guy. I could, oh, that's my goofy boy running. Exactly. She might have thought that. But what happens is when you're in a relationship with somebody and you start noticing everything they do is grossing you out, then you've got a problem. And I've definitely been in that experience before.

18:30And you start to like feel bad that somehow you're judging someone at too high of a standard. But I also think you have to listen to how you're feeling. And I do think I've made a mistake oftentimes in my life and my love life by not trusting my own gut where I, there's a reason why I'm turned off. And it doesn't mean I'm a bad person. But that is actually just not something I want to be around. Well, it's something like almost too high of a standard or too much. I don't know. You're holding yourself too high of a standard in that you are saying, what was it you said to your therapist that you're possibly being what? Super fish. Super fish. Super fish. Super fish. Super fish. Super fish. Super fish. Super fish. Super fish. Super fish. Super fish. Super fish. Super fish. Super fish. Super fish.

19:30Super fish. Super fish. Super fish. Super fish. Super fish. Super fish. Super fish. Super fish. We are talking about continuity. We are talking about new-star- جيesses. Those are character differences. These are character differences. We are not compatible if you do that. And I do this. And that's OK. I don't like watching someone dance badly. Some people might think it's cute. I think it's unattractive. I love to laugh. You know things like that get under my skin. I was thinking about another, you know what? Makeup and heels can give me the egg. And what I mean is there are some folks who can't walk out the house without putting on full face and if you can't just be relaxed, always say, if you can't put on jeans and a T-shirt, belly up to a bar and watch the football game, that we're probably not gonna be okay. But the idea, that's a good way to put it and put it in reverse. If you can't do this, that's an egg. LAUGHTER Yes, so look, they suggest that you ask yourself

20:32these questions when you realize you're getting the egg. Is this something important that I've noticed? Like is this an important thing that they're doing or not doing? Is it an excuse to avoid emotional closeness? Is it an excuse to avoid awkwardness? And what about the behavior bothers you? Does it say something deeper about that person? And if it does, then that should indicate to you that maybe there's a reason why you're feeling this and that relationship isn't right for you. So sorry. Can you say that list again? Well, you need to ask yourself, is this something important? Like what they're doing? And is it an important thing that would affect your life like in a big way? No, most of them are no. You belching loudly or clapping when the pilot lands is not the end of the world. Exactly. So they're just saying, take that into the context of what it is. But still, I don't wanna be with you. But go ahead. Is it an excuse to avoid emotional closeness? No, no, no. Emotional closeness, because you're clapping like a moron when we landed. OK. Is it an excuse to avoid awkwardness?

21:34Excused to it. Like you just don't wanna be in an awkward moment so you just rather not be with that person. Are you just kind of dismissing it because it's awkward and you don't like to be in an awkward situation? Yeah, I don't wanna be embarrassed in public repeatedly. Every time we land, every time we go out to dance, yes. And I think this is a big one. What about the behavior bothers you? Just to investigate it, does it signal a deeper issue with that person? And if the answer is yes, then that is something you should consider. I think that's fair. Now, when we come back, we're gonna tell you how you should handle the situation. If you are in a relationship with someone and they are giving you IK, what should you do? Didn't catch the latest role in the Martin Unfiltered podcast? Here's what you missed. And the argument is, do you want to win? If you don't win, you have no power. It's real. Those are the very people who I always say vote against their own economic interests

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27:42Maybe you didn't notice it before, and now you're like, what do I do? So the experts say, if the rest of the relationship is healthy and fulfilling, if for the by and large, you are happy with this person, but damn it, every time they sneeze, it's so annoying and loud. You literally can't have sex with them for 24 hours. They say you should wait and give the ICC time to pass, and then they suggest you should discuss your concern directly with your partner, not with everyone else, which is what they say most people do. You call your girlfriend, you call your friend, like, oh my God, every time he does this, I wanna just die or crawl under a rock. There's some women listening to this podcast who are gonna immediately call their girlfriend. Absolutely. I mean, I've done it. When I read that, I was like, oh shit, I did do that. I would absolutely be like, oh my God, every time he does this, so they say the proper way to deal with this, you do,

28:43and you should tell your partner, when you do this, this really annoys me. Can you try and not do this? And that's an okay and fair thing to do. You should address it with your partner. You should tell them it's annoying. Okay, that's fair, that's difficult. Okay. Oh my gosh, there was another example. Hey, can you stop belching in public? The ability, the turn off. Yes, when you do that, you know what, you could say, that is not sexy. And I think that'll stop somebody in their tracks. And when we get to Chicago, can you keep your hands down and you don't have to applaud, okay? Someone else gave an example, I just saw this one, that here's an example of say a guy, I say a guy, because this seems like something a guy would do. Wait for it, here we go. Decides to pull out his guitar and serenade you. It's probably a guy. You get the Ick. Okay. They say it's okay to say this to them. That was so sweet, but it makes me embarrassed to have someone sing to me. Like just try not to like totally humiliate them.

29:46But let them know, that's just not something I want to hear. And you know what, I can remember sometimes when someone sent me a cheesy-ass, terribly written poem, I was like, I'm done. Like I cannot be with someone who writes this. And I didn't have the guts to say that, but I was like, and we're done. Like nope. But there is another woman out there somewhere who might think that's very sweet. Absolutely. But also, couldn't we be in a point right now, I write to a bad poem and you might not react the same. I would react the same. Isn't it a matter of where you are in that relationship? Absolutely. And that should tell you about your relationship. If you get turned off by something that another man might, you might love, yeah, yeah. That's, I get that. Yes, so that's. What is your, what would be your nickname? Like what would I feel icky about you? What do you think it is? Oh, probably just my eating, I think. Because I know that I'm a little, I am loud and my swallowing, I know that I, and I try really hard to not be loud. But, oh, that's not your nickname for me.

30:46Well, it's not just, once you chew the food and the swallowing is not a problem. It's everything that precedes us. All right, I'll do better on that. I'm like, no, but seriously, and I'm trying to, Hey, girl, I'm still here. I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think what my ick is about you. What do you think an ick would be? Somebody would have for, for me? Yeah, who would say, yeah, she's ick. Every time Robo Augusta, it was an ick for me. Turned me off and she did this, this, this, this. Play Candy Crush? Like, I don't know. That might be, it might sound, it might seem immature. Like, why is someone of your age on your phone playing a game? Damn. I'm trying to think. You get the ick for me. I'm watching Archer and Family Guy. So, I'm like, as I'm shaving. This is such a good, this is such a good thing. I'm trying to think, like, I have it you have that gives me the ick. The only one that I pointed out to you, and I did tell you, and you stopped. Like, you're kind of amazing at how you just stop. But I told you, when you crack your knuckles,

31:48you crack your arm, that that gave me the ick. I was like, ugh, it's like fingernails on a chalkboard for me. And you said, done. And you stopped doing it. Why do they call that what kind of obsessive-aid? I have a weird thing. You could tell me to stop doing something. I will stop doing it. It's weird. I've never seen anyone be so, like, it's kind of frightening. I will turn that off right now, and I will never do it again. And I was like, what? Who can do that and say that? So, my dad loves you, baby. I guess. But, yeah, and I don't, other than that, I cannot think of an ick. OK, sorry. This is a short story. Anyway, they did want to say, before we go, I think this is important, that there are deal-breaker icks that you should be aware of. Road rage, rude distrangers, that could be an indication of deeper issues, deeper mental health issues that you might want to take. Notice of, like when I consider. When the pilot lands. No, that's not an indicator of bizarre. That's positive positivity. OK. If you don't feel comfortable enough, or you don't care enough to address whatever

32:50is bothering you, that's a sign to let the relationship go. And I think that's so true, because I told you that it annoyed me, and you told me that it annoyed you. And that means we're comfortable, like, we want. I want to be attracted to you. I am. And so, if you don't care, or you don't feel comfortable, you should probably just move on. And then they say, just make sure you're making a decision to end things from a place of clarity and not fear. They just ask yourself, is there something about this person that I'm afraid that if we got too close, I might be too exposed, too vulnerable, and it would be too scary. I thought it was such an interesting thing to think about the IK being a defense mechanism versus a warning sign. And that was just something that I had a therapist tell me many, many years ago, and I don't know that it served me well. So I just think it's one of those things where if you notice it, just get curious about it and find out where and why it's happening. Did you have, forgive me for us, missed it?

33:50Did you make clear you can get over in it? Yes. And they said, like, the number one thing to do is to actually tell your partner, have a conversation. Every time you clap when the plane lands, my skin crawls. Can you please not do that anymore? Depending on where your relationship is, that person's going to take that well or not. And that will tell you just how healthy your relationship is or is not. All right, and with that, everyone, we always appreciate you listening to us. I'm Amy Robock, alongside TJ Holmes. We'll talk to you soon. Didn't catch the latest Roland Martin unfiltered podcast? Here's what you missed. People wake up and go, oh, damn, wait a minute. They changed all of that? Yes. It's real. This is a wholesale attack. It is targeting black people in every federal agency. It's real. White folks have never allowed that reckoning to last more than a decade. Catch Roland Martin's daily commentary on the black information network.

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