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Getting the Truth: I Am D.B. Cooper by Joe Koenig is a book that argues military parachutist and convicted criminal Walter Reca was the infamous D.B. Cooper, the man who hijacked a plane in 1971 and escaped with $200,000. Koenig, a former Michigan State Police investigator, presents his case by analyzing evidence and interviewing key witnesses, including Reca's best friend, Carl Laurin, who is also the author of a related memoir. The book supports the theory that Reca, who died in 2014, was the hijacker, a conclusion Koenig reached after comparing his findings with the FBI's.
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Joe Koenig, a retired Michigan State Police investigator and certified fraud examiner. - Core Argument:
The book asserts that Walter Reca (also known as Walt Peca) was D.B. Cooper. - Evidence:
Koenig uses his investigative background to scrutinize documents and interview witnesses, including Carl Laurin, who claims Reca confessed to him. - Context:
It's part of a larger effort to solve the mystery, alongside other books and documentaries that point to Reca as the culprit.
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Oh, well, I am a political researcher and author here in Austin, Texas. I co-wrote the book, The Clinton's War on Women with Roger Stone. I also helped Roger Stone with his book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ. I've known Roger Stone since 2013. We haven't been that close to past couple of years because I'm not a Trump supporter. I really detest all Trump that he's kind of crazy and criminal, but I know a lot about Roger Stone. I've had many dealings with him and I'm here to tell you about it. Okay, let's get into that first. What happened? Because your politics are similar to Trump's in some ways. I'm sure, are you in favor of the brawl and that kind of stuff? I didn't really only care too much about that. I'm for cutting taxes and cutting the size of government and I really don't care too much about that wall. I really don't like a lot of illegal immigration,
but I am a libertarian, you know, and kind of maybe we should be able to go where they want to. But if we could go everywhere else in the world, that'd be one thing, but we can't. So I am for border wall enforce, border control enforce, or just depends on what level of what degree. Okay, now the first time I had John my show, I invited John to talk about Jeffrey Epstein is about five years ago. And back then, nobody even knew who the guy was. As a matter of fact, you're the only guest I could find that even had spoken about him or didn't research or knew about Jeffrey Epstein five years ago. Now, and at the time, I started bringing up the connections between Trump and Epstein and he says, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't believe Trump likes little girls. He likes women with large breasts, just like I do. What's happened since then to change your pain? You know what? Apparently Donald Trump does like to have sex with the young teenage girls. And when I was talking to you, it was probably late 2015 when I wrote my both Clint's long women
or maybe even early 2016, Jeffrey Epstein and I have been sued in court yet by Jane Doe, also known as Katie Johnson. And at that time, I was going off with Roger Stone told me, we have a chapter. See what it is, Roger Stone wanted to use Jeffrey Epstein against Bill Clinton because Bill Clinton flew 25 times on Jeffrey Epstein's airplane. And they were all even underage girls hanging out and so forth. So I don't know if Bill Clinton was being panned underage girls by Jeffrey Epstein. So sure, there were some girls who were maybe I'm going to guess, by the age, they're going to have sex with Bill Clinton. We don't really know if Bill Clinton was being panned underage girls. We know for sure Bill Clinton wouldn't know that Jeffrey Epstein was a pedophile who liked to have sex with underage girls. There's no question about that. Anybody that close to Epstein was that okay. But in that short question, I was working with Roger Stone on the Clint's
worn women and using all the Epstein stuff against Bill Clinton. And Stone is a Schill for Trump. And I said Roger, you know, Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump's name has been circled by the Butler House Manager for Jeffrey Epstein. It's about the pedophile. See, I'm afraid I'll watch Riga's head said, when Jeffstein got arrested, he took Epstein's book of contacts. He went through and he circled every single person that he thought was a pedophile or was aware of the pedophilia of Jeffrey Epstein. And Donald Trump's name was circled, okay. And so was Alan Dershowitz's. And so was Andrew Barock's name circled. And so Stone says, well, I'll talk to Trump about this. And he talked to Trump and Trump said to him, he says, well, you know, I went to Jeffrey Epstein's house at Palm Beach one time and I saw a bunch of young girls hanging around the swimming pool and I thought, well, how nice, you know, Jeffrey Epstein, he's letting all the neighborhood kids swim
in the swimming pool. You know, really nice having everything. That's just a big fat lie. We put that in our book, you know, because I had no contact with who Donald Trump was. He was, you know, a pedophile and pathological iron, a business criminal for 40 years. I just thought he was a braggadocious blastering at times jackass, but I know better now. The evidence is Trump was into the pedophilia with Jeffrey Epstein. And it's Stone who says, who comes up with this story and says, well, soon as Trump found out about Epstein, he no longer allowed her to go tomorrow, to tomorrow log one, be a member of the club. And did Stone say something like that to you? I don't remember. Okay, but Roger Son did tell me that he's the first time that I met Jeffrey Epstein. It was on Donald Trump's airplane. Donald Trump had a plane that acted as a shuttle
between New York City and Miami. And they would just fly back and forth, back and forth, you know, up and down the east coast. A lot of people make that shuttle around. And so if you were friends with Donald Trump, you could hop on his airplane, like you're catching a cap from New York to Miami. You wouldn't have to pay a commercial air flight ticket. And on that plane with Roger Son was Jeffrey Epstein. That was the first time he met Jeffrey Epstein. Or at least, you know, it's all Jeffrey Epstein in person. That's what Roger Stone told me. Okay. And so Trump, you know, I know now that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein were extremely close since 1987 and in the 1994 period, Trump and the summer night four was raping 13 and 12 year old girls at the last Wexner mansion in New York City. That's where Epstein operated out of. Jeffrey Epstein was very, very close to Les Wexner,
who was a Republican donor. What Jeffrey Epstein was a Democrat donor. Les Wexner is a guy who loaned Victoria Secrets and the limited and a lot of other retailers. Right. And we know this about Trump and the 13 year old girl because of the Katie Johnson lawsuit. And there's three affidavits in that lawsuit. So, and this is what you're... That's true. Yeah. So basically, Katie Johnson is a real person. She's alive today in her late 30s, probably 37 or so. She was age 13 in 1994. You guys can do the math as far as how old she is right now. Donald Trump was molesting a 12 year old girl named Maria. And Maria has been found. And she's in the same boat as Katie Johnson. And Jane Doe is the same person. They don't want to come public, Donald Trump's president. Trump would have these girls wear surgical gloves
because he's a germ freak. And they would masturbate him wearing gloves, like a surgeon's gloves. And if you Google Donald Trump, germ freak, you'll know that. And that's why Katie Johnson's so credible because when she gave her YouTube interview, which you can find, she talks about how that a woman came up to her and said, with Mr. Trump, you have to wear gloves. Where are these gloves? And they put these little 12 and 13 year old girls are we putting on surgical gloves and masturbating Donald Trump? If you knew how sick Donald Trump is, completely credible. And he would tell one of these girls, you look just like my daughter. And Ivanka was age 12 at that time. Donald Trump is just extremely, extremely sick. Very off the deep end, type sick. I don't know if he was molesting Ivanka, but he probably has fantasies of having sex with her. And even when she was a, you know, pre-teen,
he was probably thinking about having sex with her. And then really having sex. So with Katie Johnson, she went to four parties where she was masturbating Donald Trump. And on fourth one, Trump ties her up with Penny. It was so, so tight that the pain of her wrist was more than the pain of Donald Trump breaking her hymen and then raping her with his penis. She said that, the pain of her wrist was more hurt more in her wrist. He tied her up so tightly to the bed that any rape her. And then, you know, she said, what if I get pregnant? You know, we're all dead. And then he threw money at her. He threw a couple hundred dollar bills at her. And we can get abortion. They said, if you tell anybody, I've got friends. You remember Trump's misconduct connected? I got friends, I'll kill you and your entire family. So that's an age 48 year old Donald Trump. Complete and cuddle, sicko.
Telling that to a 13 year old girl who's just raped. He's raped without a condom as well. And he also says, if you talk about this, you'll wind up like Maria, so which is a reference to you. I know he was another girl. So Maria was probably just masturbating him with gloves. I don't know, but Maria is a lot today. And you say, well, why aren't they on TV right now? They don't want to, they're afraid of being killed. They're afraid of death threats by 10,000 Trumpkins. Okay, they're just gonna wait this out. So one day when Donald Trump has passed away when they went as long as president, they'll be on national TV. And is that gonna be five or 10 or 20 years from now? But it'll happen. It'll happen. But they came out there there two week. They don't have money. They don't have a team of lawyers. They don't have a PR team. Katie Johnson has a real job. She has a working job she does. She hasn't been a medical problem. The emotional problems.
No money. So, somebody like that cannot go up to somebody who's worth hundreds of millions of dollars. None of us, I did not say Trump was a billionaire. Okay, but he does worth probably hundreds of millions of dollars. And he has all these Trumpkins who would be glad to terrorize any woman telling the truth about Donald Trump. Now, is this the issue that caused the falling out between you and Rodgers now? Because from my observation, it seems to be what it is. When I finally in around June 21st of 2016, that's about almost two and a half years ago. That's when Katie Johnson or Jane Doe sued Donald Trump in New York court and gave a very, and she gave a position and her friend Tiffany, Tiffany Doe gave a deposition or an affirmation of witness statement about Donald Trump
waping underage girls. And it was very, very credible. And the lawyer was Thomas Marvin Jersey. Later, Lisa Blum of Los Angeles was her lawyer for a while. Cheney Mason, too. Cheney Mason, the top mom from Florida. You know, he was on the case, too. Yeah, I didn't know that. But the answer is all these lawyers thought she was very, very credible. And so the reason she's not on TV is because Lisa Blum wanted her to get a press conference a week before the 2016 general election that would have blown Donald Trump out of the water. But Katie Johnson, that's not a real name. She was terrified. This whole process, you want to remain anonymous, okay? She wanted to tell people about Donald Trump. She wanted to sue him. Everybody know that a 40-year-old man had finally raped her and planned to kill her and her whole family. But she was unwilling to go on TV. And Lisa Blum had all of these TV cameras and all these reporters all on one room.
It was ready to throw her to the wolves. And she did not want to do that. She said, no. This is not what I signed up for. I'm not doing the press conference. I'm dropping the lawsuit. You're no longer my lawyer. I'm stopping right now. It was awesome. Just pretty sad because if you were to give in that press conference, it would a new Donald Trump. He wouldn't have won those swing states. And of course, we'd have the Clinton crime family in the presidency. But sometimes you just screwed every which way in politics my friends. And you know, you took the, I was driving home that week. And I heard Sean Hannity on his radio show say we dodged a bullet this week. And the guest said, what do you mean? And he said, Epstein. So, you know, no, no, Sean Hannity. Yes, I did, man. OK, well, the answer is is true. Yeah. And if you go online to like the Daily Mail, they had an article on this.
The Daily Mail was being sued by Trump. And for, you know, supposedly swandering Melania, who, in my opinion, really was a prostitute in New York City in the 1990s when she was a model. And part of the deal was you're going to, you're right, I hit peace on Katie Johnson. So both the reporter believed her. And the reporter had to change the copy. And they changed the headlines. This saying, this girl, you know, recants or she didn't recant. She recants her story about Donald Trump. So, it was, my point is, is that that was this information that came out literally the day before the election. That he before the election. I know because I was campaigning against Trump on election day. Had somebody in a car drop by me and say, I had this big size thing, Trump's a child who was just, no, she took it all back. It's all internet. Yeah, I know. You know, and like, really, you know, she took it all back, it's all internet. Well, they'll also say too, the judge threw it out. People will say, well, the judge threw that out.
The judge threw that out. You know, some, hey, I know. The judge did not throw it out. I know. When she found her first lawsuit with the help of a little piddling parent legal in California. And it didn't file it correctly. And that got thrown out in April 2016. Then she found a real lawyer, Thomas Marb New Jersey. Well, Thomas Mara is a patents attorney. He's not even, he's not this kind of attorney either, but he did bring in, He's a damn good patent attorney. No, he's been nice. But he brought it. But he brought it to you, lawyer. Yeah. And A plus lawyer is a blue chip lawyer. And he brought it, but he brought in an expert, though, whose name doesn't appear on any paperwork who was, I got his name here, but what he called, who is a specialist in sexual harassment law in this type of law? Who's a big shot in that area? So behind the scenes, though. Yeah. And they all believe it. Yeah. The quality law, he's only done specialized in this. He's a caught step into the world of power, loyalty, and luck. I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse. With family, conoles, and spins mean everything.
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wonder how this is going to reflect back on me. So Tiffany Doe was the one who Jeffrey Epstein would use to recruit these young girls. Because, you know, they would go to these railway stations, bus stations, look for runaways. Girls who want to be models, they'd say, oh, you're really cute. I know some rich guys, you know, come to a party. We'll pay you some money. And maybe you can become a model. They don't tell them you're going to get raped by Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump and teen primers. They sucker these little girls into these parties. And then they push pull a hard move on them. You know, and Tiffany Doe was the one in charge of recruiting the underage girls. She has massive personal liability herself. What people don't know is that she
remained friends with Katie Johnson for decades. OK, and they knew each other for decades. They wouldn't like, you know, they lost track of the early night as they stayed in touch. And so anyhow, that was another big reason in Tiffany Doe, dropping a lawsuit, because I mean, Jane Doe, dropping a lawsuit, because Tiffany Doe, the witness, the recruiter, got cold feet. Well, let's swing this around, though. But this is the issue. This is the driving issue. They drove a wedge between you and Roger Stone. Or was there something else? Well, yeah, well, because at that point, I said, Donald Trump is a child rapist. It's over, period in the story. It doesn't matter if I agree, if Trump would agree with me on the hundreds of the issues, he rapes girls, he's being jailed. So, fuck. Do you think Stone is convinced of this, as you are,
or is he looking the other way, or he's not convinced? So, Roger Stone doesn't care about the truth. OK. Roger Stone is a sick event to Donald Trump, which is like being a gentle wart on the scrotum of a straight hood. OK. So, he wants to be Trump's old boy, and he's trumped for his glorification, and PR, and his name, and everything, and to be talked about, and to be relevant. Whoever's there, Roger Stone, he was trying to be relevant in life. Life that passed him by. He doesn't have money. I think he has a huge debt to the IRS. He had no campaign. I helped him with his book. His book was a big success. The man who killed King of the case against the LBJ, that was one of the top books in the JFK assassination
in the year 2013, the 50th anniversary of the JFK as an assassination. I think that was the top book that came out. He's certainly got enough PR. So, I'm willing to help Roger Stone out for free on that book. OK. And, you know, he's a Trump boy. He doesn't, you know, I'm a political truth teller. I'm a political actor. I have some sort of baseline of principles. Roger Stone is a pathological lawyer. And I know that personally. What's the dealing with him? Did you have any problems with Stone early on when you were working on the LBJ book? Because he was so dependent on me, you know? Well, why do we have problems? I'm dumping incredible amounts of quality JFK research in his lap for free. And I wanted to get it out there. I wanted to use Stone as a vehicle to tell everybody that Lyndon Johnson murdered John Kennedy because he did. See, Richard Nixon was telling that this time. He was saying, why never wanted to be president? We know about LBJs as well. I always wanted to be president. I never was going to kill for it. And then Stone with him, but Mr. Nixon, who really killed Kennedy.
And Nixon would just shiver and say, Texas, LBJ and the Texas murdered John Kennedy. That's the truth. And they used the CIA and a few military guys to do it. Are you comfortable talking about your financial arrangement for the other book, the Clinton Warren women? Sure. How did that work out? Will you pay the salary commission as profit sharing? Roger Stone was supposed to pay me half the profits. You know, Sky Wars got half the profits. And then we got half the profits. So he gave me a check for $17,000. And it bounced. It bounced. And then they finally got me a clean check that passed. And they gave me a check for $3,000, $20,000 to total. Do I have books for us in Rotter-Stone dealing with me accurately on the numbers?
God knows, he's a pathological liar. So you have to ask yourself, would a dirty trick turn a lifelong pathological liar be cheating me out of money? It's worth asking, isn't it? So $20,000 is all I got. You know, in the book, the book was not as big as the success as the men who killed Kennedy case against LBJ. But it was definitely a success. You know, it was definitely profitable for Sky Wars for Stone and for Mauro. But so that was a full extent of it. By having a co-author of the book, I wrote the 85% of it. I wrote the vast majority of it. I do think it's possible that Roger Stone that press submitted the manuscript to him that he was thinking about stealing it from me and is taking it from himself. It just shows you the kind of low life he is. He's incredible, bottom feeding low life. He is charming, he's funny, he's a good gossiper. He knows a lot of really good political, for example, he's the one who told me
that Brittany and Megan Kelly were having an affair. How's that for some juicy dirt right there? Really? Yeah. Brett Hume was boning Megan Kelly. Fox and Stone knows that from a sponsor's connection to that end. And also somebody else told me that as well. Oh, I didn't tell you this not yet. Roger Stone used to have sex with Ann Coulter. Did you know that one? No, I didn't know that one either. Did you know that one? No, I didn't. Do you believe that though? Do you believe that? Mauro talks about Roger Stone having sex with Ann Coulter. But that's something he told you, or you know this? He told me. He told me. And you believe him? Of course. He told his wife all the time. Absolutely. Yeah, what about that business where they got caught when I put a putting ads in the papers looking for men? I think they were looking for, right? Well, Roger Stone likes to watch other men have sex with his wife. Man of folk, they too. He's the original cock. You know, they talk about Jack Bush being a cock.
Roger Stone is the original cock. He likes to watch other men have sex with his wife. Who don't think she's a very nice wife? And Nadia's her name is a very pretty Cuban lady with some big boobies whose age very well. The member Stone has a new baby from another girl. From the, you know, from the madam up in New York. You didn't know that? No, I knew about that. Yeah, I was going to ask you about that too. But wait a second. But Man of Fort also does that same thing. In those emails that got leaked Man of Fort's emails, his daughter is talking about him making their mother have sex with other men in front of other men. Really? Yeah. Well, they're both into that. And for all we know, Trump might be into that as well. But Trump's definitely a proverb. And so, we're always like to talk about the deviant elite. He is like a carcoring member of the deviant elite. OK, I was thinking of being with Roger Stone and Christian Davis, former madam for New York, you know.
OK. Her baby is his. Hello. Yeah, that's not the baby. That's the elite spitzer case. He's having a baby with the New York madam. OK, this is not hard for you to ask me. Was he having sex with that culture? Yeah. He said he met him several times at a hotel near his house in Fort Lauderdale. I forget the name of the hotel. Maybe if there is a Marriott there, it may have been the Marriott or something. And that Anne wanted to continue the relationship with the equit singer. He said she was skinny. He likes them girls and big old boobies. Let me answer your question. It just came out recently that one of the apprentice, a guy who worked at the apprentice said that Donald Trump was crushing Adderall and snorting Adderall. Now, I just heard too that in Roger Stone's bail conditions, he has to go in for a drug test.
And then this is brought up to me by Ted Rubenstein, right? You probably know Ted. And it seems that there is a people talking, the credit goal is talking about the Stone also doing that with Adderall. Are you familiar with that? No. But I think Roger Stone lives a slow dope. I think he's a cannabis in it. Do you think the credit cost said that Roger Stone does that too? Don't quote me on that. But I think the source on that is credit goal, yeah. Would you like to hear my latest text to Roger Stone? Yeah, go ahead. OK, let me look up here what I said to Roger a few days ago. Now, can we use the F word on this interview or is it not OK? Let's avoid it, because we can get more exposure if we don't. OK, we'll avoid it then. I said, you got off easy. We ordered not to charge you for boning and culture. Ted has a problem against humanity. So let's scroll back to some comments he likes this in May.
Oh god, here we go. Here we go. I would say to him. OK. I said, why do you still for a million stable trader or country? You ought to be ashamed yourself. This is from July 18th. He says, you, Bill Clinton's blind. Go blind yourself. Trust, fun, ass-wipe. Then I said, do you remind me of a homosexual cuck submissive crawling on the floor of a dog car on his neck? And Trump said, you put your money on? In your response, typical logistone, you're a weak, pathetic piece of blind who's never worked a day in his life. Anytime you want to meet mono-motto, I'll pound your fat lazy ugly ass in the ground. Go blind yourself. I said, you won't do blind cuck man. He's a cuck guy. Well, let me ask you this. You and Stone are still in communication. You chat back and forth still? But these are from July of this past year, I think.
And so no. But for now, I just, that is texting whenever I do it. Whenever I do it, I hate Trump. I hate texts that don't Trump. I'm sent to register. And people should follow Robert Moro on Facebook. And are you on Twitter, too? Because I enjoy Twitter. I'm a DC politics 2016. Yeah, it's always entertaining stuff. There's always something for your enjoyment there. And so there's something clever going on. So kind of dispute. And so, you know, understand has his good points. You know, like I said, he is funny. He is knowledgeable about politics. He has a lot of really good gossip. You know, with the time that he used to have sex with Maureen Dow, too. But what do you know about, what do you know about Stone working for Al Sharpe? Look, he is a transactional guy, OK? I don't know the reason for that. Maybe Donald Trump needed to Al Sharpe
to know his side at one point. Or maybe Roger Stone had a political enemy. And he needed to already need to have Al Sharpe on his side. So I don't know anything about that. I think he's worked for numerous people. And we'll say this, Roger Stone is a dirty texture and a pathological wire. And it has some sort of a weird, submissive relationship to Donald Trump, I think that Stone internally believes he's a loser. And therefore he has to attach himself to somebody who he thinks is a quote winner, which is Donald Trump. And though Trump is a massive loser. And you know, he was so proud of his association with Donald Trump. Can you believe that? I mean, like he's beaming and proud and boastful. As well as things, he feels important to be connected to an important person. Even though Stone will tell you he's just a political hack. Let me just recently someone told me that it's possible that Stone inherited the Roy Cohen
blackmail files. Is that possible? He's never told me that. OK. But I do think that Roy, in my opinion, Roy Cohen was a master blackmailer. He was a pedophilic blackmailer. I think that he would poke people up, wealthy people, I mean, you know, targets of his with underage boys and film him. I can't prove that. I just believe that. No, I know he's a very sick guy. And very dirty political player and very close. See, Roger Stone first met Roy Cohen in 1980 when he was doing campaign work for Ronald Reagan in the primary. Tyler Reddick here from 2311 Racing. Victory Lane? Yeah, it's even better with Chamba by my side. Race to ChambaCasino.com. Let's Chamba. No purchase necessary, VTW Group, voidware prohibited by law, CTNCs, 21-plus, sponsored by Chamba Casino. In New York, and so Roy Cohen and Tony Fatsoirna,
who was the head guy of the front man for the Genevise crime family, they were telling Roger Stone behind the scenes at Lyndon Johnson, killed John Kennedy. I believe that 100%. Roy Cohen, who hated the Kennedy's. The Fatsoirna, the mob, who hated the Kennedy's. And they were telling him, Roger Stone in 1980, that Lyndon Johnson murdered JFK. As Nixon was telling him, very goldwater was telling people that privately, many LBJ insiders were saying that, that when Brownbill is the last, this, Barack Lellon, so Stone has come across some truth. And he does have the ad or has tremendous political contacts. I just want to remind the audience that Robert Morrow is the co-author with Roger Stone on this book, The Clinton War on Women. They work together on the whole LBJ book. So this is an insider's insider.
And no, is there a demand for you to give interviews and your association with Stone remind the only one? You're the only one. Did I mention that you've had sex with end-contact or some of the extra mention that I don't have that. You did. I'm getting to get anybody missed out from the previous five minutes ago. So I suspect she was skinny and so he quit seeing her. And then he wants her to do favors for him with her book and she, I think her book, I think she wrote her even a book for us, our book, our book. You know, God bless her. Atomic Annie. Now, what about all this stuff with the Assange and Drone Coursey and credit going on this stuff? Are you following this closely? Well, I used to be kind of friends with Drone Coursey over the internet stuff. Because we all hate the Clintons. Me and Stone Coursey, I'll hate the Clintons. For a good reason. And I'll tell you this, Drone Coursey is far more credible as a human being than Roger Stone is. Okay. And he'll tell you the truth about Lyndon Johnson
and the Clinton crime family and the Bush crime family. But he'll lie about Trump and he'll lie for himself. That's the difference. But yeah, there's been a dispute between Coursey and Roger Stone over whose right, I believe, Jerome Coursey. Now, do you believe this little group of Coursey, credit, Stone, could they pull off an operation like this and be a go-between between Assange and the Trump and the Russians and all that? Is that possible? It's not an operation. Do you remember the Trumps hacked all this stuff probably on their own on Hillary? I don't know if they were colluding with Trump Trump but loved to collude with him. I don't know if he did. All they were doing was just trying to go to Jillian Assange and find out what he had. And I think Jillian Assange is a journalist who has every right to publish whatever the Soviets give. I mean, if the New York Times can publish a bit of gun papers, then Jillian Assange, a journalist,
can publish whatever anybody gives him. And the U.S. intelligence really wants to put Jillian Assange and Jill forever. Call for his execution. Call for his execution. I mean, call for the Neocon part of the Bush administration and all the death and destruction in Iraq that Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush, Connoisseur Rice, and he calls yet he thinks Jillian Assange should get the death penalty? Hmm. So, you but you ask me, you know, what's pulling off an operation? You find out Jillian Assange has something and you're desperately trying to find out what it is. That's not really much of an operation. And Roger Stone, he's known Trump for 40 years. He's known Palm right in front for decades, okay? Yeah. So obviously, see, Roger Stone really wasn't a key part of the campaign. He just wanted to pretend that he was. He was working off on the edges, trying to do good things for Trump and make himself relevant again,
because he lost out a power struggle to Cory Lewandowski during the campaign. And so, you know, I don't know. I mean, I do think that Roger Stone is guilty of everything the government has just charged him with, because he's lying to Congress that's a no-brainer that the Roger Stone would do something like that. With his tampering of Randy Cretica, that's a no-brainer. Yeah. So, he's obviously a criminal, but does that mean that he went to the Russians first? Or was he going to Jillian Assange after the Russians had already dubbed it there? Okay? I don't know. Do you think he'll make a deal? No. Because whatever he's being tried for will take at least a year to go through a trial and get a conviction. And then Donald Trump has a 2020 general election
and the month after that he partens everybody, including himself and his family and Roger Stone. Roger Stone says, I've got a pardon coming to me in December of 2020. I got a pardon. If I go to Jill for one or two or three months, I've got a pardon waiting for me. Why should he make a deal? Then he can spend the rest of his life on the Trump God screw to her. You know? After Trump was in 2020, he can also say, oh, he's the deep state. He kicked us out or whatever, you know? You know, all the North guy is pardoned. Yeah. Why can't Roger Stone get his pardoned? Yeah, and then Stone will go down in the history books. He'd be connected to this 100 years from now. And he would... That's why it was you fork when you got arrested. You're actually going to have your manured entire life. You know, when the FBI swat team of 30 people come in and arrest you, he was you fork. He's a center of attention. He wants to be Jesus Christ being crucified in the middle. He doesn't mind being crucified. As long as he's a center of attention, it's all cool.
But he wouldn't be so happy if he didn't have what he thought was a pardon in his hit pocket by Donald Trump. It was practically tweeting out. I'm going to pardon you. Yeah. I'm going to pardon you. I'm going to pardon you. I lied to you. I'm going to pardon you. I'm going to pardon you. I'm subliminally saying Trump was subliminally saying that. So why should we worry? You know, he's not going to be thrown in jail next week. A trial takes at least a year. Right? So, you know, if he goes... If he has jail time, it won't extend past 2020, I don't think. That's why he's not worried. You know, during the press conference there, when everybody was chanting and yelling in the background, CNN asked some, do you want Trump to give you a pardon? And Stone couldn't hear him. And he said, pardon me. Yeah. He has something funny to say. The next thing after that. What do you say to that? Pardon me. Yeah. You can't make that stuff up. It really happens. Why is so cocky? He feels like he's going to get pardoned for everything.
But, you know, you better watch out, because the government might have some charges that they can slap on him after Donald Trump is gone. The other has to be more charges, you know. And there might be things that do not expire under the statute of limitations for five years that they can just crucify him with. That's what you've got to watch out for. So, you know... So, what are the questions you have, my friend Ed Opperman? The my question is, you think we've covered this topic fully, and is there anything else you want to do? Anything else? What else can I tell you about Roger Stone? Something that I haven't asked you. He hates the bushes. Oh, that goes way back, because the bushes hate him, because he was campaigned for Ronald Reagan in 1980. And... Stone used to have a... another New York mistress. He texted me a picture for a one day. From the head down. I know she is.
And she's kind of gone off the radar. She's no longer on Facebook. She used to post on his Facebook page and say, stud. And then it's wide to seeing that. Stud. You know, I don't think his wife liked that. How much do you think Stone actually had to do with taking down Elliot Spitzer? I don't know. I was reading an article debunking that. I didn't know that he hated Elliot Spitzer. I just don't know. It was Stone Lies. And even when he's talking to you privately, and you think you're getting this straight scoop, if he's already told that lie to 10 reporters before you, he's internalized. It's hard to tell if he's telling the truth. So, he said that he was ready to sex. Oh, Stone would tell me about it. He'd be telling me about the times he'd be going to sex clubs. I was up late last night. I was blank, blank, blank in the sex club.
You know, until 3 a.m., you know? And so he said his cover story. He said he met this hooker at a sex club in Miami, and she told him that Elliot Spitzer was one of the clients. And Stone was saying that Elliot Spitzer was where his black fox turned sex. I don't know if that's true or not. He may have just been making it up to humiliate Spitzer. And then he said that he reported to the FBI. Some stuff. So, I mean, I just don't know. It was the in-on that they announced Spitzer. He would have been if he could have any, he'd tell it's Spitzer. And his relationship with that madam was before Spitzer went down or after? I truly don't know. Okay, because that might be a clue. Probably after him. And Spitzer was part of the Inverse Club, you know? And he used to sit around in Inverse Club with girls on his lap and talk real cocky, you know?
Talk about, you know, like he's a big shot. So, so, any other questions? I mean, I'm wrecking my brain trying to say anything else. But I think we've got some radio gold here. Can we rob it more? But one thing is, I am going to be interviewing a friend of yours soon about this. You want to give us a little update on that? Or you want to just wait? Oh, yeah. I mean, I believe you're going to be interviewing Jack Staley, who's in name of John Clarence. He's the author of the Gold House Trilogy. He has proven that Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon and the military were stealing billions of dollars in gold from White Sands Missile Range, which is located in Southern New Mexico in the 1960s and 70s. And the amazing thing about Jack Staley is that he has the money laundering documents of the 1973 Nixon theft. And he has the pilot for LBJ, who stole, who helped LBJ
steal 13 plane loads of gold in the year 1969. It's an amazing, amazing story. You can find his books currently on Amazon.com right now under his name, under his pin name, John Clarence. And the book is called The Gold House. And the free books, the Trilogy of Books, The Gold House by John Clarence on Amazon. Yeah, we're going to have John Clarence on the show. Robert Morrow explained this story to me. We spent about a half hour off the air. I wish we had a head of tape there. This is a very thoroughly researched, documented story with videos of the pilot with receipts from storage centers and smelting facilities 30 miles away from... This is not some... Oh, someone told me it is. This has a lot of documentation. And 17, I think, 17 years of research went into this. So we're going to be doing a whole show. He's proven it. And this is material that should be on the front page
in New York Times in, you know, three inch letters. And maybe one day it will be. But you're getting it first here on the offering report. That's right, they're just going to have to wait because it's going to be on the offering report first. Hey, Robert Morrow, man, what do you want to leave us with? I'd say, you know, you always got great stuff. And people really should follow you on Twitter and Facebook. It's always entertaining. You never... Yeah. Where do you move one thing? Yeah. I encourage folks to buy Roger Stone's book on the JFK assassination. Because ironically, this... Hey, it's Cole Swindell. And when I spend 200 days a year rolling down the highway, the bus can start to feel smaller than a guitar case. Everyone wonders how I stay chill while the hours crawl by. Truth is, one good luck spent on Chamba and suddenly the trip does a whole lot shorter. Finding your space even when there isn't much to spare. Need some chill? Let's Chamba. No purchase necessary. VGW Group void were prohibited by law.
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Okay, welcome back to the operaman report. I'm your host private investigator at operaman. A big thank you out there to Robert Moro, who's the co-author with Roger Stone of the Clinton War on Women. Also too, I just want to remind you audience, okay, that back five years ago when I first wanted to do a show about Jeffrey Epstein, no one knew the topic, no one knew the story. The only guest you could find to talk about it was Robert Moro. Okay, and I've been first-hand witness. At the time he was still very friendly with Roger Stone. At the time he was a Trump supporter. Okay, and when I said to him, I said, hey man, what about Trump in Epstein? He goes, no, no, no, no, I don't believe so because the Trump likes adult, large-breasted women just like I do. And I just shook my head and I said, okay, and I've so I've watched the transition here from Robert Moro being not convinced to utterly convinced. And I guess it seems like the majority of his, what's convinced him is his knowledge of the Katie Doe lawsuit.
And he seems to be quite aware more than the average guy out there of the players involved in what went on in that case and what went on around that story. Much more education, in fact, not to talk to him off the air. I'm more educated than the average guy out there who tries to talk about this topic. And what I can tell you is just like Robert Moro, every lawyer involved in that case, every investigator, every witness, everyone's convinced of the accuracy of that case. But you know, people will say, oh, I heard the judge drop that he got thrown at a court or whatever, but all this kind of stuff, and it's just fascinating. But there you go, Robert Moro, thoroughly convinced, based mostly seems to be on that lawsuit and his personal knowledge of Roger Stone. First time I think we heard that Roger Stone likes to watch other men and have sex with his wife, same thing. Paul Manafort was into and Manafort and Stones were partners in a law firm. And I think that third partner was the guy who was involved in that hyphen credit union stuff down there in the Bronx.
And I don't have to go back and refresh. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was a Mario Morola. I think it was the third partner in that business and they called it the torturers lobby group because they would represent dictators and who were involved in torture all around the world. Oh, what a, what a crew. What a crew out there. So check that out. And I would have to say that the Stones, I mean, Moro's recitation of the Katie Dole lawsuit is about 95% accurate. There's a couple of little corrections I could have made in there, but it's difficult to correct Robert Moro. You got to know this guy. Okay. And you know, you know, there's your expression, you need to love him, you hate him. I think just about everybody hates Robert Moro. And he doesn't have the people who love him. But I love him. I can't, I like him. Although he can be a handle, a handful is the word I guess they use. This story though about the Nixon and LBJ and the gold we spent a half hour. I talked to the author the other day to book the interview.
And you know, I was listening to a story. He's going to send me a whole bunch of documentation besides the books autograph copies of the books he sent me. But I spoke to him, but then when I spoke to Robert Moro and he laid out the whole story in chronological order and details with names, give me a bunch of names to look up. It's a very, very convincing story. And like I said, they have receipts and documents or gold smelting facilities, pilots and video or the pilot making a confession. They've got this thing pretty much wrapped up in documents. So I'm going to be taking a good look at that. That may be something that deserves a video. Interview with the author who is in New Mexico. So I would have to travel down to New Mexico and get that for you. But I think it can be done. Okay. If you like today's show, check out operamanreport.com. You can become a member in our member section. There's plenty of content in there. The Katie Dole lawsuit documents are in there. There are many Epstein affidavits and documents written with search warrant video is in there.
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