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Just behind the US in donations of aid to Ukraine is Germany, which last year changed its constitution to rapidly upgrade the country’s military in the wake of the Russian invasion and vowed to provide Ukraine with help for as long as it takes. German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock joins the show to explain how that vow has shaped her nation’s affairs.
Also on today's show: Former British Tory minister and MP Rory Stewart; New York Times tech reporter Kashmir Hill
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