Gavin Newsom Is Fed Up With Everybody

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1:02Make it count. At the Ram Drive-In to Fall Sales Event, make it powerful with our strongest Ram 1500 ever. Make it move with the Ram Heavy Duty with an available Cummins diesel. And make it go the distance with a 10-year or 100,000-mile powertrain limited warranty. Hurry in now for great deals during the Ram Drive-In to Fall sales event. Excludes fully electric vehicles applied to 2026 model-year vehicles non-transferable. Visit mompar.com for complete details and a copy of the powertrain limited warranty. Cummins is a registered trademark of Cummins Inc. Cummins and Hemi-Arvagedra-Trade Marks of FCA-US LLC. See here? I've come to South Carolina because in American politics, this isn't just another stop on the map. In a little over a year, the voters you see inside this room will have a say in who could become the next Democratic nominee for president. So with Gavin Newsom is thinking about 2028, this is exactly the kind of place you'd expect to find him. Well, I don't think that they will stop at anything to try to steal the stuff.

2:03They're going to try to steal it. But we will win. But I just thought we had lost the fight. We were going to go a little bit. The shock in all the smash and grab presidency was going to go well. So as I stood watching him work this crowd, I couldn't help but wonder. Are we seeing an early glimpse of a future Democratic president? I've been here four times and I've been here with no cameras. I've been here for other people every single time. And I've been primarily focused in parts of the state that others don't want to go. In fact, very intentionally into the role parts. And focus on the down ballot race. Focus on the local races. Some of those races will be crucial as Democrats begin to fight to take back the Senate this November while the Trump administration is pushing to roll back key protections in the voting rights act. It's not appropriate language, but what the fuck is going on in this country? And every single one of these damn people are complicit. That means you Johnson. It means everyone around the damn table. So the stakes here isn't just about who wins.

3:04They're also about who gets a say in what happens next in our country. Well, I'll need to just take a breath. I mean, we're just, it's just this fight and flight, fear and anxiety anger. And it's just, do you get a chance to do that? I'm part of this, honestly, he's a little cathartic for me. The real issues as you are out here because people are not motivated. Not many, maybe that's one of the main reasons you're here. They just feel overwhelmed and despondent in a way. That's what I was talking about. It's talked about this shock and awe, this smash and grab presidency designed to exhaust you, Lake Ontario Lake America, Gulf of America. The war, this war, that war, this tweet, that it's all designed to distract and exhaust you, including the issue that we were just referring to. And we can't fall into that. We can't fall prey to that. We can't zig and zag. We can't kick our eye off the ball.

4:04And we're not. Look, I mean, this last crowd that was crazy and was the rafters. Men, people are showing up. And they're showing up in small ways, not the big ways. Meaning it's not the shiny lights of these big races. These small races, 30 and 0, Democrats, legislative, state, legislative races. To me, that's the test of where the party is. You win those down ballot races. We never, we lost almost a thousand in the last decade. We're 30 and 0 in the last year and a half. That to me says something big is about to happen in November. I am in a totally different spectrum on this. I have so much confidence what's going to happen in November. We're going to crush it. We just have to win by huge marches. I don't think that they will stop at anything to try to steal the stuff. They're going to try to steal it. But we will win. Then we have to deal mechanically with how they're trying to steal it, what's being teed up to do so now. And precisely what Trump is doing is laying the groundwork so he can in closer elections, use the Department of Justice and others to say,

5:04these elections will rig. That's why margin matters, turnout matters. And the margins big enough, that's going to be an academic exercise. When those margins are slow, he's going to litigate every single one of those. And all of us have to be vigilant and have to be prepared. But I think they're going to litigate every single ballot. This initial didn't match. They wrote Don, whatever my initial initial, they didn't put a period on this one. I think it's going to be similar to hanging chess. He's worse than hanging chess to your point. I couldn't agree the more. And I think the biggest, the most insignificant, the one thing. I mean, we've been screaming a yell about this for over a year and a half. And people have accused me, honestly, of being hyperbolic on all this stuff. When it comes to ICE agents, when it comes to the Department of Justice and monitors, when it comes to the abuses of the system in terms of trying to get our voting roles and use the DMV and others, now respect we litigate and all that for years. California's, by the way, always the first on the receiving end of many of these things. That said, the postal service, that's next level in cities. That's what I'm talking about. That's a serious judgment.

6:06A judge has already said no. But according to the whistleblower, they're going forward. And he said they're not ready. Like this is going to disenfranchise. 60 days and we literally now are, I mean, if it doesn't come back after the postmarked, the fact that they can slow down then, the return of that mail, they can slow down and receiving that mail. They can send it to you, but not to you on time. I mean, that's that, that eyes wide open. And that requires oversight, Congress, vigilance, you, me, everybody, surround sound, cold red, aggressive condemnation and demanding transparency. Last time I checked it was illegal to defy it, federal judge is ruling. I'm called school, like you, I believe. Isn't this fraudulent? Rule law, the rule of voter suppression? Rule law? Yes, by definition, but Trump's done that on how many half a dozen other occasions. That's why I wonder why you're so competent. Because we're going to win by margins that will pad my anxiety.

7:09Like Hungary? Precisely. Precisely. And they thought Orban had it wired, wired, the press, wired, institutions was going to wire that outcome. And the margin was such that he could not just, anything except he fell short and he's disappeared. And I think that's, that's what's going to happen. I really believe it. But again, that requires turnout like this to turn out on November in record numbers, not just here 60 days before at a rally. So it's how lucky feel it everywhere I go. I mean, you've been out, man. It's just the different five Democrats are wildly outperforming. He can't even, he's not even making an argument, defend his record. The only thing is, you know, it's just, it's the vanguard of naming everything and getting his, getting as much as he can because he knows the gigs up this November as presidency as he knows it's ending this November. Have you seen this much? You know, he talks about waste fraud and abuse. Remember Doge or whatever. But it seems to be the most wasteful, fraudulent, abusive regime that we have had.

8:13Look at all of it. He's spending a billion dollars on a ballroom, a helipad, an arch. Well, his airplane, not only $34 million, he's transferred from the Pentagon. The reflecting pool. The reflecting pool. I mean, you know, but it's, it's what he's taking from his supporters. $3.8 billion was lost. 98% decline in that meme coin and he took over $600 million personally. Can you tell the story about you, you were, were you in the oval and he talked about Bitcoin? I literally sit in the oval. It was just surreal. Every single thing. It was just, you know, he was talking about all this stuff on the wall. He pointed to FDR's painting and I was like, oh God, here we go. Third term, he goes now four. I'm like, okay. So I just, you know, just doing the whole, the, the, the dog has shown a pony show. But he starts going like this just randomly. I'm like, what are you doing? And I literally said, what are you doing? He goes, hey, I did the meme coin. Meam coin goes, I thought it was a coin. Turns out it's not even a coin. I said, what do you mean? He goes, I just got a $600 million. He thought it was like a coin. He thought it was an actual coin.

9:14I said, literally, I started smiling a lot because this is, but I didn't know he's making any of this up. I said, so what, he said, yeah, he's got $600 million. I said, $600 million. I said, that sounds like a gift. He goes, what do you mean a gift? And then he got serious. I said, sounds like a gift. He goes, oh, you mean, you mean Melania's. And I said, she has one too. He goes, yeah, yeah, Melania's got her on. I said, no, I didn't mean Melania because I didn't know Melania. I mean yours. And then he goes, that's what no one's saying that. I said, everybody's saying that. I said, literally, not the guys out Fox News. Everyone is saying that. And then he moves on to the next topic. But that's $600 million that he is, I believe, stealing from my opinion, from the American people from this constituent. I thought he made it up nine months later. We saw the tax charts and it was $634 million. He was actually being literal. I can't make this stuff up. I mean the guitar, I keep, I would get so frustrated. People say it was a $400 million gift. It wasn't. It's the $900 million that was transferred from ICBM, missile defense and the improvements

10:17there for a ballistic and it got missiles. It was sent over to retrofit the plane that he's taking with him, all the terror policy and lowering the tariffs to get the golf courses, Eric Trump, all the folks in the wake up and look in the family, all the critical mineral deals, all the Pentagon deals. You saw the 15 investments that Eric and Don Jr. have where they've received $6.3 billion in federal contracts, $3.2. They've already received $3.1 of that. They're promised the fact that we have state and crony capitalism where we have 10% of or close to $7. I'm Hannah. I've lost 75 pounds in 20 months with GLP1s plus diet and exercise. On row, I've gone from struggling to run a mile to running farther every day. You can access FDA approved GLP1s online. Get the support you need to reach your weight loss goals. Go to row.co slash weight to see if you qualify. I'm a paid row partner, 20% average weight loss in one year in non-diabatics with obesity or overweight with a weight-related medical condition versus 3.1% in placebo arm.

11:20Our ex only, to stay informed about serious side effects, go to row.co slash safety. 10% of intel I were taking over MP materials, 20%, 25% compensation for chips to be sold, getting chips to be sold to the UAE because he got money from the government in terms of the world liberty financial. Holy shit. I'm like holy shit. I love the question about this. I'm sorry. It's not appropriate language, but what the fuck is going on in this country? Every single one of these damn people are complicit. That means you, Johnson. It means everyone around the damn table. Every single one of you, Rubio, you're complicit. JD Vance complicit. All of you are complicit. The entire primetime lineup at Fox News, every Sean, that means you. All of you are complicit in this complete grift. It's an outrage. They're liquidating our inheritance. They're selling the soul of this country. They are. All of them are more accountable and some, we knew who Trump was, but it's all the enablers around him. Every single damn one of you that are selling out this country or kids and grandkids,

12:23that's not a Democrat talking. That's an American talking and you should be ashamed of yourselves. I didn't mean to step on your moment, but I liked your passion about this. I'm sorry. But that's where the fight is. That's what people want. But that's why I'm here. Seriously, I'm trying to channel that because that's why I'm here because I can't take it. And I can't take the calm. Right? It's just this normalization. It's like, no, another news. Oh, well, he just renept. Yeah, it's just, well, that's Trump. He dropped next story. Well, up next. And they're like, no, not up next. They'll, you just, what, what? Go back. Rewind. This is not none of this can be normalized. But the news treats it as if it is normal and the false equivalence. And the thing that gets me, when you're talking about the false equivalence, that's important. But the thing that gets me when they talk about this guitarid jet, I've hearing the news now say he's on Air Force One. And I'm like, that is not Air Force One. They should say he's on the jet that we paid for from the guitarries or whatever, but they call it Air Force One. And they're normalizing. By the way, I was with the person that got the phone call, by the way, Munich met representative

13:24of the car, the guitarry government sat there, done true story. He said he had to leave. We're at, we're having a quick meeting. I don't know why I was even in this room was with all these fancy people in Munich. And representative says, well, I got to catch a plane and I couldn't help myself. I said, well, you have a plane. I thought you gave it to Donald Trump. And I thought I made a mistake. All these folks were turned around like I defended. And he goes, can I talk to you about that? I said, yeah, sits back down. Tells me the phone call he received from Donald Trump. I did not know this. You may know this. You're a fancy reporter. You probably reported this. I didn't know this that he got the idea of Trump or the $400 million plane because Air to One got to play, same plane, same model. That up really. And he heard about that. So he said, well, wait a second. What about me? And the representative of the guitarry government goes, put yourself, sir, in my position. We've got troops at the border and he mentioned five other issues. He goes, what would you have done?

14:24I said, well, I want to know what you did, but at least I understand from your perspective. And then he begged me to say that it's, he said it's not a personal gift. He said, yes, it is. It's one of the contracted says it's not. I said, it's a personal gift. Do you think that plane will ever go to the museum or he's going to continue to fly? The museum is him. It's his. I agree. And what he's doing, what watch this? He's going to raise money, watch this. I mean, I probably already has. He's probably going to sell hours like it's a net jet to take Air Force One to fundraise for the museum. Yeah. So you're some corporate leader. You've already, you know, you've already worn out four or five other knee pads, sold your soul. And he might as well just get the hour on the jet with the $10 million check. I feel like this should be Gavin after dark. I'm sorry. I think it's it was. I mentioned you with a couple of beers in there. I think it's an alligator. There's much more to come from my conversation with Governor Newsom, including one issue that's put him at odds with some of his own party and sparked fierce backlash from LGBTQ

15:27plus rights advocates. You know, we check numbers all day, all day long. I'm sure you do. How many steps did I take? What's my heart rate? How much did I sleep? Some of us check our bank accounts more often than we probably should. And I talk about polling numbers a lot, all kinds of things, statistics, everything. But when was the last time you checked your blood pressure? Because here is the problem with that. High blood pressure often doesn't make you feel any different. You can feel perfectly fine and have no idea what your numbers are. And that's why 120 light, this caught my attention. They have a simple 14 day experiment. Check your blood pressure, drink 120 life once a day, keep checking your numbers and see what happens for yourself. I like that. You don't have to guess. You don't have to anything. You just measure, right? Go to 120life.com. That's 120 LIFE.com and use my code, which is done. DON for 20% off. Try it risk free for two weeks.

16:28And if your blood pressure doesn't come down, you get a full refund. That's 120life.com and the code is done, women. These statements have not been approved by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Always check with your doctor. This episode is sponsored by Better Health. Now people ask me sometimes, how do you turn it off? And the answer is, I don't always, especially when my work is right here on my phone and I'm always picking it up. I'm not the only one I know. I spend hours every day talking about some pretty heavy stuff, politics, violence, people, losing people they love. And then the show ends and the cameras go off and you're supposed to just move on with your day. But I've gotten better at recognizing that you have to take care of what's going on in your life, especially up here, too, right? And that's why I think therapy can be so important. Sometimes you need somebody who isn't your spouse, your family, your friend, or somebody you work with. Somebody whose job it is to listen and help you work through your own stuff.

17:29And that's where Better Health comes in. Better Health makes therapy accessible online and they can match you with a licensed therapist based on what you need. And if the first therapist isn't right for you, you can switch it anytime. No questions asked. Sign up and get 10% off at BetterHealth.com slash Don Lemon. That's better H-E-L-P.com slash Don Lemon. Politics has changed. We need to check. Here ago I was a little frustrated with my party. It's no indictment of anybody. But I just thought we had lost the fight. Beyond these campaign style speeches and all that talk about America's future, there are some questions Newsom can avoid if he really does want to lead the Democratic Party, including where he stands on issues that have divided his own side. Let's get this out of the way. Yeah, what? Because people ask about what? What? What? You want to become a bigger tent party. You also said, as I was speaking, we've heard language like take our country back and you think that you don't always go along with the Democratic Party.

18:31No. Leadership is not happy about that. Going back to the beginning, the beginning, when I was doing same-sex marriages in 2004 and the winner of love, they want another to do with me the party. We married 4,036, a couple of some 46 states. No, I tend to march to be a different drum, but it's not my own. It's just reflective of what I feel I'm responsible and accountable for, which is to lead, not to manage. I mean, that's the job on these roles is to lead. And sometimes you get it, you gotta get ahead of your skis. Sometimes you make mistakes. Sometimes you do early. Sometimes you're just flat out wrong. But I tend to iterate. I tend to want to get ahead of the curve. And I think about all the things that the party is talking about, it relates to affordability. No bullshit. Like we did most of everything that's on the agenda years and years ago, first. You did that. Look, can we just table that just for a second? Because you mentioned what you did for same-sex marriage. Yeah. And I'm talking about that you don't always agree with the party.

19:32And you go with your gut. Can we just talk about the trans thing? There were some people who were not happy with what we said. I totally get it. It was harder for me. I mean, look, and I'm rightly criticized from the right for my advocacy on behalf of the trans community. And I'm in an active time. When I was mayor, when HRC and others were not including trans rights. And all my appointments in this space, and being an advocate, and look at the laws I've signed, which are the toughest in the country in terms of protecting the trans community, also a trans-cott sign. But on the issue of sports, competitive sports, it wasn't an intellectual exercise for me. It was an actual issue. And it was one of fairness that I couldn't square. And it came back two years in a row. And it was on my lap. It was on my desk. So it wasn't an intellectual exercise. And I couldn't figure out how to make it fair. And so when I was asked, do I think it's fair? I expressed my point of view. But it's a point of view that comes from the place of advocacy and love for people that just want to survive, man.

20:35And I hate the politicalization of it. I hate the weaponization of it. And I despise those that are trying to use this in a way that tears down the community. It's such a small part of the population. It's not even, you know, you see what's happening with the WNBA. It's not even an issue, you know, a men now or at least a man saying what? Yeah, they're coloring it in. They're using it as a wedge issue. And it's devastating. And what I hate about being honest in my response around the fairness and competitive sports. And again, that's what I believe. I could make it up. I could lie to you. I don't want to lie to you. Is I hate that that has been used in a way that has been hurtful to people. And that was never my intention. My God, he's actually the opposite. And that comes with receipts, man. This is, you're talking a guy for decades that's been way out front. And I've put that up record up against anyone's and that was not. This was years ago before it was even, I don't think it was legal yet. You married one of my friends, Thomas Roberts, who were the other candidate as wedding. Yeah. It wasn't fashionable to- No, it was, come on, it was the leaders in our own party, including a lot of LGBTQ leaders that were against all this.

21:36They said, let's just focus on civil unions. And here I am. Nope, by the way, forgive me. We're literally a Kings. I mean, this, I read those letters from Birmingham. Yeah. It's always the right time to do the damn right thing. I literally was quoting them when I launched, when we announced the initiative and moved forward with those first marriages. So I was inspired by King. I was inspired by the South. I was inspired by movements. And so that's been the cause of my life. And I always fought for minority rights. But I do think this is a different issue sports versus the broader solution. Is there a solution? What would you, what would you, I tried? That's the thing. I tried for two years. We met with all sides of this issue. We actually brought experts on this, how to figure this out. And we couldn't. And I worked with, I tried to get the legislature to move on something that would be considered fair. And then we ultimately came up with a compromise that no one was happy with, which is, we would have, we would have three people on the stand and the person, the fourth, if someone was quote unquote, impacted by someone of a different, you know, that was, you know,

22:40logically born differently. And it was, it's tough. And that's how we ended up. And again, no one's happy. But I just, you know, to me, it's never, I think it was, was the governor of Utah said it best, never has it been more focused on so few people. So look, I don't want to dwell on this. Because I think this relates to what, why you're, why you are doing this. Because you know, they made trans rights an issue. You're going to be talk, they're going to be talking about that in 26. They're going to make it an issue. Everything's going to be, what is a woman and all that. That was their main issue last time. Jesus. Yeah. How about cost of gas, grocery, utilities? People are not asking you about that. They're just trying to get you to the car. You're kidding. Like literally, it's funny you bring this up. No, I mean, I've been everywhere. And I've been a Michigan. I've been Nevada. I've been in three states so far in the last four days and the South three days and the South, not once has issues to come up. I can give you 25 other issues that have come up. This is a manufactured issue in order to divide us, in order to get us distracted from the real issues that they can't solve.

23:42And that's the difference here. It's the magnitude. It's just, it's so, you know, vert. And it's so extraordinary to sell out the people that believed in you. And that, that to me is the most extraordinary thing. He plays them for suckers. He plays them for fools. They fail out every time. Yeah, I have empathy for them. They pay his legal bills. They think they're donating to the campaign. And we're literally going directly to him. So have you, I don't know if you have, sorry, this mosquitoes were in the South. It's crazy or not. Where's the boat spray? I'm the South, I mean, man, I grew up here in this year. It's crazy. I mean, it's hot. Look, you walk outside immediately. You take a shower, walk outside. It's like, why don't I even take a shower? It's ridiculous. And everybody's got pits. I know. Everybody's got pits. Everybody's got pits. I know. Everybody's got pits. You got it. Linen is a trick. Is that Linen? Yeah, it's Linen because it's a debris. That's, I don't even notice that. Yeah, it's Linen.

24:43You got, you even doing one of those podcasts. Like a fit. I mean, I don't know. Have you been to the grocery store lately? I don't know if you shot. I literally do the shot. Well, not always, but I have five times a week. I go. Five times a week. I go every other night getting stuff. I go, my local grocery store is a wagons. And I go, this is nothing to do with the wagons. It's just prices in general. And I am. Look, I am okay. Right. But even me now, I look and I go, what? Whoa. I have this. How much am I paying for this? I know. I know. And I think about how we can address that issue in a meaningful way. That's what I said. When I said table affordability, now let's talk about. I know. I mean, I think, like, you know, in healthcare, we're lowering the cost of prescription drugs by manufacturing our drugs. So we're not subsidizing. $11 insulin. Not subsidized at cost. California is doing it through CalRx, providing 400 free diapers for every newborn. We'd freeing the lock zone. We've done free inhalers for asthma patients. All of our public schools. We're looking at subsidizing more child care slots.

25:43We've already subsidized $149,000 more than any other state. We're looking to do more. We provided a brand new grade preschool for all saving $13,000 a year for every four year old. And I did Trump accounts five years ago with $1,500. But I didn't call them Newsome accounts. So you don't know that so that we could begin at the beginning. $1.9 billion putting in there. You mean you don't like your name? You don't like your name? And I made a mistake. I should have mentioned it. Should have named them Newsome accounts. No one knows we did it. This is me off. Actually does. And actually I'm like, it was like, what a great idea. I'm like, Jesus. I did it six years ago. All right. So you mentioned Fox News and you mentioned, you know, all the things you talked to you said the tire price. Yeah. Yeah. Because if you listen to them, California is a shithole. It's going down the two. It's literally the temple, the American economy. And you really doubt all these things if you look at it. It's not necessarily so. They will say, what they will say on Fox News is why is Gavin Newsome out here in South Carolina has stayed in his jambles and he's not serving the people of South Carolina. Well, I mean, I mean, serving the people of California, excuse me.

26:46I think they deserve more than a $7.25 minimum wage here. I think they deserve more than a governor refuses to expand Medicaid. We not only expand and Medicaid, but we have, we've only stayed in America providing universal healthcare regardless of pre-existing conditionability to pay and your immigration status. I know how offensive that is to people and I get out. The GLP-1 pill you've been waiting for is now on row. Yep, it's finally here with the same clinically proven ingredient. Now in a pill and now on row. It's the first FDA approved GLP-1 pill for weight loss at the lowest price available. That's one daily GLP-1 pill for big results. Now on row, go to row.co-slash-listen to see if you qualify. Our ex only go to row.co-slash-safety for serious side effects and box warning associated with GLP-1s. Controversial, that is we delivered that. We delivered $20 minimum wage for fast food workers, $25 for healthcare workers, $17.40 for everybody else. We have the biggest subsidies in the country for child care. We've created a brand new great preschool for all.

27:47We have afterschool, for all summer school for all. We have invested in our growth engines, our UCs and CSUs and we have a GDP that grew 40% since I've been governor. That's faster than any developed nation in the world, faster than any state in the United States of America. No one comes close and let me double down on that. We're not only running surplus again, but California, six of the top 10 market cap companies on planet earth were born in my state. The tent pole of the US economy is reflected disproportionately in California based companies, $166 billion Wall Street Journal last week of investment in startups in California, $4,000. That is three times more than all the other 49 states combined. The next state was, it was $27 billion in New York. My point is we have no peers. Number one in manufacturing, number one in hunting, number one in forestry. That's trying to get enough. I'm going to keep going.

28:48We have a lot of mosquitoes too. I'm just saying California is America only more so. But if you listen to them, the crime is out of control. He's not doing anything about that. Did you see the crime numbers? Yeah. And did you see the, I just literally published them. Why do you think I'm asking you about this? Like, like, two ex higher here on the Republican damn leadership. We have the lowest homicide rates in recorded history in California, double digit declines in every category last year, lower crime rates. So when I start there, literally making it all up. People are leaving and they're going to Texas. They're leaving. They're going to take in their business. They're leaving. How do you have $366 billion of investment last year? Why is Elon Musk sitting there opening his world headquarters, R&D headquarters in California? Why is all the best talent? Why is 32 at the top 50 market cap? AI companies there. Why is all the space tech exploding in California? Come on, man. Come on, man. Don't buy that bullshit from Sean Hannity and that Jesse Waters guy and all these guys that are out there selling fear and panic and common indifference on climate change and

29:51democracy, bullshit. California derangement syndrome, that's all it is. What does California do then about? I'm in trouble on this interview. I'm just... No, you're not in trouble because I don't... I just... I don't hate more than anything. I don't think you know this. I don't like interviews. It's not an interview. We're having a conversation. We are. We are. It would be like we were having a conversation. We were having a conversation. Yeah, I get a little... What would... What... You're the governor of California. You said you had... You've made all of these changes and you've corrected the things that you believe need to be corrected. Then what do you do about someone who's trying to fix the election by using our postal system to suppress it? Well, we're just... I mean, a lot of public gets you tens of millions of dollars where we're supporting our election. I thought you were doing something new though. Well, I'm about to add to that. You are. Yeah, I just was giving you the budget stuff. Oh, okay. This is a premium. I have a little sound bites. Everyone wants a little quick response, but life's complicated. And you're in the policy. You've got to be able to express it. But here it is. Forgive it.

30:51More, more long-winded than it should be. We just provided tens of millions of dollars for all election workers at the county level to help with staffing, et cetera. We have a whole strategy as it relates to DOG. We are concerned about the Department of Justice having oversight and sending out these election watches, which they did last November. And we flooded the zone with our own election integrity officers to basically monitor what they were doing. We're going to do the same this November. We just, to your point, made it a felony if anyone interferes with the chain of custody as it relates to the voting machines and the ballots themselves. That doesn't matter if you're a state employee or a federal employee. And we're sending a message on that. We also have very strong rules and regulations as it relates to the time to count your ballot as long as it's postmarked before election day. And we have one of the most aggressive vote by mail initiatives in the country. And we're working with our unions within the state of the Postal Service. We're looking at the staffing levels to make sure that they're adequate and have some transparency

31:55so we can anticipate problems in that respect. But what are Democrats doing? What are Democrats doing? You can't criticize them. You are a Democrat. You're a part of it. I'm a part of the... Yes. I'm a part of the problem. Hey, society becomes how we behave. We are our behaviors. I get it. There's a great... You've been on the 405... I think someone made this up. They told me there was a billboard on the 405 freeway and you know the 405. I can't go on the 405. I can't afford the gas. Okay. I have an electric car. Have you seen the gas prices in California? Apparently. I'm surprised you noticed with your electric car. And that's your specs. See, you're smart enough to understand where the future is going. That said, there's the mythical billboard on the 405. It says you're not stuck in traffic. I'm making the point. You were just making it. It says you're not stuck in traffic. 45 minutes later you get 10 yards closer and underneath and small letters says you are traffic. Society becomes how you behave. So you're 100% right. Yes. This is all happened on our watch.

32:56I'm a Democrat. Keep going. I'm acknowledging your point. Okay. So then what would you have the leadership do? Because... What's the leadership? What's the... How came Jeffries? He's the leader of the D.C. Party right now. Is he okay? I know. I mean, I matter respect for Hawking, but he's one part, many bodies. Do you think he's doing a good job as leader? I think he is. Tell me. And I've been working very closely with him. So I have a very strong point of view on the basis of the performance. I've seen in a granular way as we've worked together on Proposition 50 to redistrict in California as we're working to make sure we deliver on the promise we promoted with those maps and that is get our candidates over the finish line. The fundraising efforts, which we've been part of in California in the coordinated campaign that I've been proud to be part of. So I think he is doing an incredible job. Yeah. I do. You're still very critical. I feel that the energy in the Democratic Party is on the progressive side. I feel like centrist corporate Democrats worry about that. They don't like the D.S.A. They don't like the progressives.

33:56That young people like AOC and others, they don't have really had leadership roles or... Or... Oh, I... They don't have roles that they should. AOC's more of a voice. She's got a big voice. AOC and she's carved it out and she's in deserves it. I mean, look, I don't want to get into committee assignments. I don't run that house. So I don't understand the nuances of that and who's up who's down in terms of seniority and all that. That's not my job description. That said, the issue of corporate and all these labels. I care less about the damn label. I'm serious. And by the way, maybe it's because I come from San Francisco. This is how we're dean or it's Ralph Nader, it's progressives, it's Green Party, it's the OG's of progressive. It's always been the zeitgeist of our party. It's part of who we are. And I think it's the show they want. They want us distracted on all that when vast majority of us overwhelmingly agree on fundamental and core principles.

34:56And so I'm just not... I don't fall prey to all that nonsense. I think in the time that we have left, what do you think of the DSA? I have a great respect for their energy. The energy they bring into the party. The charisma behind many of their more successful candidates. I have disagreements on a number of issues. And then on a series of other issues, I'm like, not only do I have no disagreements, then they're done that. I'm like... I mean, I mean, we already did that. You want this policy. I want that. I mean, they'd say, well, it's time for universal. Good. Time for... I mean, a lot of the things they're advocating for, we've already delivered. So I don't get as offended by it. It's Texas windable. 100%. 100%. 100%. Two things. You've got a once in generation talent in Democratic Party. And you have once in a generation abominable. I mean, almost... Who is this Paxing guy? He's got to be the worst candidate they've ever put up. I mean, maybe they want to worst historically bad candidates ever to be put up in a major

35:57state. And so you combine those two factors. Absolutely. It's Georgia windable for the governor. Oh, she's going to win. And come about Florida. Florida. Look, I like David a lot. I did a fundraising email forum. David's incredibly gifted. Very bright. He's got an interesting background, probably, now Democrats. So he's got to, I think, there's different... A different profile. One more anginix and... Good question. I don't know enough about details of the race to be up to judgment. Look, I just... I feel just broadly good of me. It's just... Come on. What I love about it, it's every flavor of Democrat. What a gift. That's what the Democratic Party should represent. Big 10. We're in addition. Not subtraction. Sure is not division. We should be inviting that big 10. My grandfather, my dad, Democratic Party, this guy was a part of, was a big 10 party. Where are you off to next? I'm heading out to North Carolina. But I'm going to spend another day in South Carolina. And then we'll find an alligator or a crocodile. I know, I found that out.

37:00Thank you, Governor. We'll see you soon. I want to ask you about the Supreme Court. What about it? Should we expand it? Should be expanded. You know, my initial instinct, me a year ago, I would have said no at a concern that we'll continue to be expanded. And I was making a case for the ethical reforms and term limits, 18 years, which I was making a case a year ago, I'm more open to it on the basis of those district court arguments, which are not terrible arguments. Is that a yes? That's a, I just, I'm finding myself evolving on it. And I normally have very clear conviction on things. I've been open argument interested in the evidence on this. And so I look at, so I have three leg of reform, term limits, ethical standards, that's a no brain, and that's to meet table stakes. Caution on expanding it, but an openness. The Electoral College. The California's already been a leader, it's one that's already gone out front, saying it's time to change that system. One of the states more burdened by it than my state. Where the size of 21 state populations combined.

38:03Come on. And we've two representatives in the Senate. Come on. And the way that thing favors, you know, it's, it's, it's perverted, I think, our politics. And, you know, the Constitution's a living document and it was conceived to be amended. And I think it's time to make that a moment. Thanks for watching everybody. I appreciate you. Make sure you like, subscribe, and turn on notifications so you don't miss anything. We're live weekdays at 10 a.m. and 5 p.m. Eastern with new content at 2 p.m. Eastern, sometimes at 8 p.m. So follow the down limits show wherever you are. YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Twitch, Substacks, Spotify, IHR radio, Apple Podcasts, we are everywhere. And we're there every day. If you want a little more, join the limit community. Exclusive posts behind the scenes, live chats, just hit join or check the channel pages. All right. I'll see you next time. Are you tired of confusing bait and switch pricing on GLP ones? Then visit happyGLP.com where it's always $99 a month.

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