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I heard more bullshit in Philadelphia today than I've heard in my five years covering your

football thing.

There's so much bullshit going around.

It's insane.

So I read the transcript from the GQ interview with Hertz and then I watched it and there

two completely different deliveries.

Remember, an editor is going to put the transcript together and I would think that the Eagles

probably had final say on it.

And then when you watch the interview, it's completely different delivering the questionnaire,

asking the questions, Hertz answering these aloof questions back in his aloof way.

We're going to get to that here in a minute.

There's no doubt.

My takeaways are probably going to be as honest as you could possibly get and I, this is

just how I saw this.

And it's not going to be Glazed donut.

So again, as we get through the open here, I don't care what you're posting now.

Here's my takeaway that GQ interview with Jalen Hertz showed me he's not a very approachable

player.

He's not a very personable guy and he puts winning above friendships.

Okay, certain guys drive to a different destination a different way.

Todd Brady had lifelong lasting relationships with Amidola, Edelman, Brankowski, all of

those players.

He was very close to him.

Hertz doesn't look like he's close to anybody.

Everyone asked a question about the Vante Smith.

I can't wait to see his great skill out there on display.

The guy was trying to get your relationship with him.

Hertz went and go down that lane.

There is no question that Jalen Hertz puts winning above friendship and above being close

teammates.

I take away and being in those locker rooms and being on a football team.

I'm not saying it's bad.

He's more like Aaron Rogers as a person than he is Tom Brady.

He's more like that kind of guy.

I'm not saying to the extreme where Rogers is an asshole.

Hertz is not that, but Hertz borderlines being an asshole.

And it comes off to me like he's not very personable.

He has a problem with relationships with his teammates because you know why?

What was the line?

Leadership has a price to pay and that's friendships.

He's not really all that wrong on that.

But he doesn't have close relationships on that football team.

Okay.

He doesn't.

And by the way, again, it's not really a rip.

It's more of his personal in who he is and how he talks to people and how he sees people.

The end goal for Jalen Hertz is to win ball games.

And I completely believe that.

And if that means sacrificing friends at the end of the day, Hertz doesn't give a

shit.

And you know, some folks are going to be more like Tom Brady and Brett Farve.

And some folks are going to be like an Aaron Rogers.

Where again, you're never going to get close to them.

You're never going to be that guy.

And I don't care what you take away.

Now I see why some of the comments.

Hertz is not very approachable.

That interview was uncomfortable.

The guy kept asking questions and Hertz kept asking questions back.

Appreciate it, brother.

Thank you very much, March.

Thanks again.

So again, my takeaway was, I don't really think he comes off as a very close teammate.

I think he looks like the way that the organization looks at players.

Hey, man, you're here for one common goal.

And that's the win.

There's really nothing wrong with that.

But as a guy that's looking to build relationships with his football team, he's not your guy.

That's not a guy that builds relationships.

As he knows at the end of the day, you may have to cut, move on.

It's the business of the sport.

So that's how he approaches the game.

Jalen Hertz looks at people and says, hey, do your job.

Go out and do your job.

It's got nothing to do with me like in you.

You played it.

You played a win the game, not make friends.

I fucking love it.

Okay.

Okay.

March.

I'm not telling you that his results are wrong.

But when you watch that interview, that guy has very little friends on that team.

That guy has a very friendly guy.

He doesn't make friends.

And by the way, one of the things too that came off in that interview to me is that he so

reserved.

You know why?

Why do you think Jalen Hertz is so reserved?

He doesn't want anybody to know how he thinks.

I'll tell you something else.

He's got a little bit of Derek Jeter in him.

Because that's how Derek Jeter acts.

Not really a ton of friends.

He's made more friends after his playing days than it seemed when he played.

It's okay.

But when you listen to him talk and you listen to him, how he talks about himself, how

we talked about the end game of winning.

What was it?

The sacrifices of leadership.

Okay.

Let's see here.

What did he write down here?

We wrote this down.

A price for success.

Exactly right.

Okay.

And that's exactly what he does.

There's a price for success.

Jalen Hertz, his relationship with AJ Brown fell apart because the more Jalen won, the

less that friendship meant to him.

AJ didn't like that.

A lot of players wouldn't.

However, you can't argue with the guy's success, with the team and with how the team has

been constructed.

So the interview came off to me again as the guys committed to winning.

He's not committed to anybody on that football team.

That's your job to be committed to your gig.

And for him to be the leader of the team, who cares about friendships?

That's how that came off.

That's his winning formula.

He's more like Rogers as a person.

Okay.

Then he is like a Brady.

Brady wanted to be the greatest teammate.

Okay.

On the planet to his teammates.

That was Brady's formula.

What's to be a great teammate?

That's not Hertz's formula.

Hertz's formula is to do whatever it takes that the organization he trusts then, which

it seems he does.

He's going to put him in the position to win.

And that's how he, that's how he came off.

He's in the loop, dude.

He's not very personal.

He doesn't have a very good personality.

He struggles with it.

That's okay.

Not everybody.

Joe Montana wasn't the best in public or dealing with people like that in public.

He was kind of an aloof guy too.

Joe was like that as well.

Okay.

I mean, look, under the day here, this comes down to the more winning, the more pressure

that Hertz has to win.

So let's chance you're going to become friends with this guy.

This guy doesn't really want friends.

Sales, I understand your take football is a business again.

I'm not saying he's wrong.

That's why take away on that visual interview.

I understand your, your take football is a business.

A jail in Hertz treats it like that.

He does.

He's that guy who won't go out for a beer after work, correct?

A friendly or pleasant, but the guys are not friends.

That's right.

That's who he is.

Again, it's not a wrong approach.

AJ didn't like putting a bandaid on problems instead of solving them.

He knew if they couldn't run the ball, it was going to go downhill.

He had to see a little bit.

So you know where Bella check got off, got, got moving off players from it was Bill

Wallace.

He moved off the guys before they declined.

Correct.

Yes.

Again, end of the day here.

Jalen Hertz is not looking for buddies on that team.

It's okay.

I mean, that's how some quarterbacks deal with that.

Most quarterbacks are not very approachable.

He's not.

You're never going to get warm and fuzzy from Jalen Hertz.

Top Brady went out of his way to be the greatest teammate he could be.

I'm not saying that teammates don't love playing with them.

I'm just saying teammates like Jalen Hertz is not a guy you want to go out to dinner with.

He just spark up a conversation about things.

He's just not that guy.

That's okay.

There's many guys in the league like that.

Okay.

And hey, some of you may think this is a, it's not a rep.

That's his formula for success.

Okay.

I don't believe that.

I think they're really, I think they're friendly, not friends.

I think they're very friendly.

I don't come off when asked the question, hey, your friend now is going to be the number

one.

He doesn't really look forward to him going out and putting his skills on display and wouldn't

expand on their relationship.

He never talked about one relationship he has on the Philadelphia Eagles or any relationship

that he's ever built.

And the guy tried asking him the questions on it.

It's okay.

He's just not a very good personable guy.

And like he says, there's a price to pay for success.

And that's how he's doing it.

Yeah, I don't like it because when shit goes bad, he isolates himself from the team.

Correct.

Sills, he doesn't talk about his personal life.

He doesn't talk about any relationship he has with anybody on his football team either.

I get it.

I saw Brady and Grant doing videos always.

I saw them out together.

I saw them doing TikToks after they would win games.

They would have a bunch of fun.

Listen, it's just a different way of getting a place.

Prince, he just doesn't.

He's not the closest teammate.

There's guys like that in the league.

He was literally line dancing at Smeetie's wedding.

Okay, you're right.

That interview came off like he's best friends with everyone on the team, but an idiot.

Sills not to bring up AJ.

He is yesterday's news.

Do you think he was jealous of Barclay success in 24?

He was at the main dude.

No, I think because Jalen hurts new the way to win the football team and the way to win

games was through Barclay and not through him.

I think that's what fractured the relationship.

Because since Barclay's been on the football team, there's been way more success.

There's been more success in the front end or excuse me.

Would you not agree, Mr. Hill?

There's been more success in the back two years of the four years than in the front two years

with Barclay being on the football team.

Personal is business and business is personal.

Okay.

Hey, by the way, however you saw the interview is to each his own.

Sills the only issue that with that approach is that when you need to call on a guy to give

more, it's hard for it's hard to do it for someone to loop.

They will give more for a friend because it's personal.

That's right.

That's why AJ shut down.

Hertz wasn't going to go out of his way to motivate AJ Brown.

That's on the quarterback and the coach.

Hertz wasn't going to go out of his way.

If AJ doesn't want to do it, that's on AJ.

And there's a part of me that says, Hertz ain't wrong.

Bro, you're a professional.

You've got to show up and play.

You've got to show up and be a pro.

This isn't like daycare center.

That's not JLM's job to catch your ass, but it is in a way.

Okay.

I mean, when needed to be motivated, Hertz wasn't going to go out of his way.

That's not who that guy is.

He's not going to do it.

You got to show if you want the brotherhood for a team and all that.

AJ's a grown ass man.

Motivate yourself.

I agree.

I completely agree.

Hey, like I said, many of you.

People are going to see that interview through rose color or equal colored glasses.

I'm going to tell you as the next player and friend of other teammates on how I see that

quarterback.

And if you want to go down another lane, that's fine.

To each his own.

We'll agree to disagree.

More of a story.

If he was able to pass the ball efficiently, every problem on offense would not exist

or even show signs of improvement or running.

Yes.

Yes.

I'd rather be a loner and win playoff games and championships than be joking and playing

with teammates and bars and girls toys and not winning meaningful games.

Hey, that right cowboy fans.

Not a bad take.

Like I said, Marsh, some people are going to look at that interview and see it a different

way.

And I'm looking at objectively here.

I'm not telling you it's a bad way.

I'm telling you that guy doesn't give a shit about friends.

That guy cares about winning games and he'll sacrifice relationships.

Brady sacrificed personal relationships.

He never sacrificed teammates.

Guy.

It's just all all things can be true too.

Yes.

As a fan and as an organization, you'll love hurts his mindset.

Yeah.

If AJ had it.

How he wanted it.

We don't get to the soup.

We don't get to that super bowl and win it.

Okay.

SS, I'm not telling you I've read anything wrong with Jalen Hertz.

I'm just telling you how he came off to me.

And I told you priority number one for him is winning.

Okay.

So it hurts isn't wrong, but I find it hard to believe.

He won't find a buffer to smooth out the personal stuff as long as he wins will be fine.

But if he doesn't, it can turn on him quickly and it will.

And it will.

They would have still got to the super bowl.

If Hertz spread the ball around him.

No, I don't think so.

Because of 24, you needed a run game.

Get this my friend.

You never had a past game in 24.

Sales, we look at Brady's career with 2020 vision.

He'd way through his career him going nuts on the sidelines would look bad.

See, I'll tell you this.

The only reason and only way you can go nuts on the sideline is for this reason.

You already have a personal relationship with that person.

And that person knows you're coming from a place of love and wanting to win.

If you're just screaming at somebody, it's counterproductive.

That's why Brady's able to scream on the sidelines because he was a better teammate than anyone

in NFL history at the quarterback position.

He can scream at those players because he did have personal relationships with those players.

Hertz doesn't have personal relationships with any of these players.

Hey, by the way, Prince, thanks for leading me into that interview.

It was very telling.

Sales, what I'm saying is these videos are smitty talking about what he discusses in the

offseason when they were laughing out together.

We don't get to see the behind scenes and hanging out together.

Okay.

Hey, by the way, they spent time at Alabama of all the players on the team.

He is probably the closest guy.

But does that guy come off to you, Prince?

Like, he's got close friends in life?

That interview gave me more jail and I power.

Nothing matters in this game more than winning all the other teams in the league would die

for a quarterback with that type of mind.

You can't tell me different.

Hey, okay.

Well then you tell me, Marsh, I was going to save this topic for the end.

So you want Jalen Hertz to run a Sean McVeigh offense that you beat on a regular basis?

Marsh make that make sense.

You're asking Jalen Hertz to run an offense that the Eagles consistently beat.

Why?

It doesn't work against Philly.

Why would you want an offense that you beat all the time?

I mean, when you want something with your own name on it, it creates your own offense.

Instead of copying somebody else's.

When you want the Jalen Hertz offense, why does it have to be the Green Bay offense?

The Sean McVeigh offense.

Why in God's name do you want to run an offense that you traditionally handle?

Peas would kill for this roster, not the quarterback.

You want to run an offense that you handle on a weekly basis or yearly basis.

And you're trying to tell me you think Jalen Hertz is going to run Sean McVeigh's offense

better than Matthew Stafford is nuts.

It's nuts.

So why did it take for a GQ to get this interview?

What is wrong with Philadelphia media doing this lot?

Lollipop shit.

Even Dallas media calls out Jerry Jones.

Hey, don't.

I thought the guy at GQ asked some pretty decent questions actually.

Jalen Hertz is going to do whatever Jalen Hertz needs to do to win.

Didn't this interview just tell you that?

Kill with the narratives.

I asked you a question.

Why are you going to ask him run an offense that doesn't work in Philly's eyes.

They beat it all the time.

It's not a narrative.

It's what you're doing.

Narratives are things that don't exist.

This exists.

They've said it publicly.

This is Sean McVeigh's offense.

This is Green Bay's offense.

It's not a fucking narrative.

It's a reality.

I'm going by what they said.

You're asking Hertz to run an offense that you beat on a normal basis.

Why?

I know.

I'm going to talk about how he rose them too.

It shows how he speaks to WIP and media like he's the head coach.

It's very telling who runs the team.

Absolutely who runs the team.

Absolutely.

Hey, answer the question.

Why are they asking Jalen Hertz to run an offense that you beat?

You're foreign oh against.

What's this, DFW?

That won't answer it.

So the difference between DAC and Hertz is that DAC spends time with his players off the

field on trips, working out, finding out what makes them tick.

Yes.

Hertz doesn't want any of that shit.

You can watch the interview yourself.

I don't care how you look at it because you look at it in a crazy different way.

Sales the front office wants to run the McVey offense because it's sexy.

The front office can push this because the franchise quarterback keeps his mouth shut.

And the head coach says anything you want.

Because he can sales.

Okay.

No, he's going to run that offense better than Stafford.

Okay, March, never happened.

Ever.

Because last year's O-Stank and that's the O-C they hired.

You hired the same O-C.

You hired the same guy with less experience than Kevin Pettulo.

They hired the same guy.

They ran four vets when their season was on the line.

They met as a group and that's what they came up with.

Yeah, the only guy not oh wait.

They got rid of two guys in that huddle.

Stoplin, it Kevin Pettulo.

The other two are still here.

Hertz and Suryani.

Okay.

Imagine that with the weapons and O-line Hertz has had over the years.

Gary, that has had some pretty good football teams.

So I think they want to run it so that Hertz can finally grow and try to spread his ability.

I've been wishing for this but Nick's prevent offense never allows.

Hertz is growth.

Well, you never hired the coach to help it too.

Shills, I think you were spot on.

AJ wanted legacy.

Jailin wanted to win no matter how it looked.

Correct.

AJ, get this.

Hey, Danielle, everyone.

Remember when Michael Irving was on?

He has a love and passion for Troy Ackman and Troy Ackman has a love love relationship

with Michael Irving.

Hertz never developed that with AJ.

Now you could say it's on both guys.

Okay.

There was a little bit of relationship built at the beginning.

And the day that AJ Brown became and fill it up the eagle, that relationship eroded.

The more Hertz won, the less Hertz felt that relationship was needed.

He told you in the interview, yeah.

He fell apart.

They fell apart because of winning.

And I told you four years ago, if you think AJ Brown gives a shit of the same thing,

about a Lombardi trophy over his targets and catches and numbers, you guys said I was

nuts.

You said no way.

You said that was bullshit.

Well, it was true.

When AJ won the Super Bowl, he didn't care because the Super Bowl didn't go through

him.

It went through Seikwon.

Seals logic.

If you say you think Hertz is good, he brings up the greatest quarterback of all time to

shit on him.

He will never be Montana and Brady.

Dude, you're missing the point.

Brady was, his secret sauce was, he was a great teammate.

That takes no ability.

You don't have to be able to throw the ball well.

You don't have to be able to run well.

You don't have to be accurate.

You have to take time with your teammates.

There's no skill being a great teammate.

And that's what Brady and Montana had.

Montana was a third round draft choice.

Brady was a sixth round draft choice.

Now those guys got better, was being great teammates and working at their craft with

their teammates.

This guy completely missed the point and it's not shitting on Jalen.

He's just a different guy.

And if you don't like the way that the interview came off on video, that's tough shit.

All the offense has been the same except Kellen Ward.

The only thing different is the quarterback not running.

Stop blaming the coaches.

He's winning just as much as he did at Bama.

Same problems by the way.

Absolutely.

By the way, I've said it to you.

Go back to his NFL profile.

That's 99% of the stuff that existed when he came out of college.

Still exist.

And it's still there.

It hasn't left you.

You think changing the offense is going to change him into a better passer?

You're out of your mind.

It's going to give him more versatility maybe.

But that's not going to change him.

He feels cowboy fans acting like Jack didn't have a team like this.

He did.

All these Jalen haters who love Dac failed to realize that he did have a good team.

A 10 of the 10 years that Dac Press got was in Dallas.

I'd say five of those years were exceptional teams.

And I'd say two of them were good teams.

This water football then just throwing the ball agreed.

Yeah, Prince.

There is playing good defense, playing good special teams, having good offensive coordinators,

spending money on the right players.

Your damn right.

It's more than just throwing the ball.

Big sales.

I do not understand how working hard and being focused to do everything to win is a bad

teammate.

Dude, again, I don't think he's the greatest teammate when it comes to relationships.

His his idea is winning here.

Leadership has a price and that's the relationships on his team.

And that's his formula.

I mean, he's not the greatest teammate.

He's never going to love a guy on his team.

He's going to really like a guy and he basically has the organization's mentality.

They want to do this.

I'm there for it.

They want to run the ball.

I'm good with it.

They want to do this.

Hey, I'll tell you what.

Jalen hurts and Nick Suryani have mastered one thing that almost every quarterback in the

national football league can't master.

You know what it is?

They don't give the front office resistance.

You want to run it?

We're going to run it.

You want to coach it?

We're going to coach it.

You don't want this coach.

You don't want that guy.

You want to get admitted this guy?

Get rid of that guy.

The problem is when things go south, nobody stands up for anybody and you have no answers.

And you're looking to the front office for the answers.

Ask yourself this.

If how he roseman has all to say in the football team, when the team is looking for answers

on the sidelines like four verbs, if there's nobody with answers on the sidelines, how are

you going to call a good play?

If you looked at a front office for all your answers being solved, when you're in a game

and you need an answer, that's why you don't get it.

It's cool he wins.

I get that, but is the same problems when they win.

When they lose and you all blame coach, you stop ignoring it.

Oh, hey, Sean Manon is the built in excuse here this year.

Two years in a row, the higher the same guy.

Nobody missed the point.

You missed my point.

I said to you, Jalen Hertz is not the best teammate.

He's not very approachable.

I never said anything about fucking winning.

You added that.

I said to you, Jalen Hertz is not the best teammate.

He's not very approachable.

I never said anything about fucking winning.

You added that.

So, I think you look at the results of the interview very fairly.

Could definitely say Hertz's style has worked for him up to this point.

Yes.

Jalen looks at price of success, price of leadership.

It's relationships.

I mean, that's how that interview came off to me.

Sills your thoughts.

How he was on the, I'm going to get into that next, that's next.

WIP today, he was protecting lemon and style where she said it takes time in the NFL.

He compared them to the first round pick in 2010 of Brandon Graham.

Yeah, well, the difference there is he didn't draft Brandon Graham, I don't think.

Somebody correct me.

I thought that was an Andy Reed hire and a Joe Banner hire.

I might be wrong.

Maybe that's his first.

Let's see.

It's, it's art to lead people if you don't know what makes them tick.

Some players need hard coaching, some a pat on the back and say, let's go.

You have to find out what motivates them.

Hertz doesn't want any of that.

Hey, DFW, not everybody's going to have an outgoing personality.

Hertz values winning more than personal relationships on its team.

I mean, you can see the difference of personalities in two and in jail in that Alabama.

They were the same or they were different completely.

Sills this interview with Hertz.

You can make it what you want, but as long as jailing keeps winning, us fans won't have a problem.

I'm not saying you should have a problem with anyway, with the interview anyway.

Okay, I mean, I'm not saying that at all.

Sills, AJ was the only one bitching about jailing though.

Like I said, Ricardo,

you want Hertz to run an offense now.

The Shaw McVeigh offense that you beat all the time is crazy.

Hey, let me take an opponent that I've been dominating for four years.

Let's run their offense.

You think that makes sense?

Hey, let me run the Shaw McVeigh offense who I'm for and I against.

Okay.

I have four no gets an offense.

We beat them all the time, but let's run it.

Sills, I get the outside doubts and whatever, but I don't understand for life for me how some

ego fans hate on Hertz when we've been the most successful as a team since he got here.

Dude, I'm not hating on anybody here.

I'm telling you how he came off as a person to me in a very awkward interview.

And again, I know you love the guy and I know some of you will never, ever admit anything.

Bad, good, whatever.

They'll always be excuses.

I got it.

Your fans.

I got an SS.

Do you think the emotions of a quarterback trickle through the team example?

If a quarterback is throwing tantrums or upset, does it make the other players play worse?

No, depending on what that relationship that player has with those players.

If Tom Brady's bitching at Amidola or Edelman on the sidelines, those guys are together

all the time.

Those guys are socially together.

Those guys work out in the off season together.

Those guys are constantly for 20 years, they're together.

So if you say something to someone, if you have a personal relationship, I'll give you

something that Joe Madden told me years ago.

The former manager of the race and of the Cubs.

For me to be able to be constructive with people, I had to be in a situation where I had

a personal relationship with every one of my 25 guys on my roster.

For me to be constructive, I had to have a relationship.

The moment you don't have a relationship with those players, it's destructive.

And that's sat with me for a long time.

You have that great, great relationship with people.

You're going to be able to motivate more.

So they disagree with that.

I'm sure you do.

I think we do value personal relationship.

He's a great relationship with, I don't believe that.

But based on that interview, I just don't think he puts the personal goals above the team.

That guy does not come off like he's got a bunch of friends on that team.

And I disagree with you, Prince.

Sino's all we can hope is, hey, by the way, I learned nothing from that guy in that interview,

except leadership comes with a price.

And he'll put anything above that.

Once again, yeah, hurts is a loaner probably.

I'm wrong with that.

So am I.

Just the front office wants control and jail and is not resistant to do what they do.

Should how he keep hurts?

You think he would fight for 60 million or would he take less?

I'm going to get to that next promise.

Sales, I don't even think this new offense would have worked for AJ since it's supposed

to improve the run game and spreading the ball.

Maybe we could have tried this offense while AJ was here.

Correct.

All right.

So I want to get to that interview that how he rose and did on WIP today.

I want to show you.

You see this guy right here?

Don't read anything.

I mean, I'm not going to.

You guys can of course, but I don't care anymore.

Listen.

I want to show you how bad WIP doesn't do their job anymore for their listeners and how

people in this business in that city have stopped doing their jobs.

Okay.

I listen to the interview.

So how he rose men was asked, is this a make or break year for hurts?

Do you actually think that the general manager of the Philadelphia Eagles is going to go on

the flagship station and say yes to that question?

When the host already knew the answer and what the general manager was going to say, that

question was probably a set up question.

It was probably told to ask him that.

How do you not know the answer to that?

If you're asking that question because you know for a fact, Rosman's not going to answer

that question.

He can't even tell you who the backup quarterback is heading into the commander week.

And he's going to tell you that jail in hurts is in a make or break year.

How preposterous is that?

They asked the question on who the backup was.

He wouldn't answer that.

And you think how he rose men is going to tell you the truth.

If hurts is in a make or break year this year with only $20 million left on his contract

and guaranteed money next year, you think he's going to go on WIP and say that.

The host who asked the question knew the answer before he asked it.

Holy shit, what a set up.

The Eagles set that interview up like that.

I mean, it's incredible to hear that.

I don't blame any listener coming to the conclusion that you would listen and believe any

shit that comes out of that place.

I'm talking to Eagles.

I don't blame you because you're taking them at face value.

How come to follow up question then?

Get this guys.

How come the follow up question was oh, this is not a make or break year.

Were you working on a contract this off season for jailing?

Are you working on one now?

They never followed up with it.

They just went on to who's the backup quarterback?

Holy shit.

The follow up was when should we expect her to his new contract?

Not who the backup quarterback is.

People don't do their jobs, dude.

They in bargo reporters.

They throw softball questions and they mislead the fans.

Nobody at filling does their fucking job.

They don't do their job that's not serving your people.

It's an embarrassment.

I mean, it's an embarrassment that you know that you're asking a question and you know

the answer before you even ask it.

Hey, hurts in a make or break.

You know the GM's not going to go.

Yeah, he's in one.

You talk about T ball questions.

Holy shit.

I've never seen anything like what I have.

I was embarrassing.

Yeah, I mean, how he disagrees.

Well, then act to speak louder, dude.

How come you didn't up as how come you didn't guarantee next year's contract?

How come you haven't addressed it?

You can sit here and flap your gums all you want.

Money talks.

What a bunch of shit that was.

These people do not do their jobs anymore.

They just don't do it.

They don't serve you anymore.

They serve.

Guess what?

They serve and they're at the, they're at the beckoning of these teams now.

I agree.

I P tried to rival the GQ interview with the results.

We're clear WIP's horrible at their job.

That was a shit show.

The GQ showed how it's supposed to be done.

Correct.

Yes, Marsh.

Oh, I get this.

They put Jalen in a good environment.

They ask that's the best interview I've ever seen Jalen hurts do.

I kind of telling you kind of who the player is.

And by the way, I know some of you are sitting there going like, this guy doesn't give a shit

about being a great teammate.

When it comes to relationships.

Okay.

He doesn't care about that.

There's about winning.

Okay.

Sales filling media's trash, Cowboys media ripped Jerry Jones during the trade deadline mid

season.

Last while Jerry was on their station.

Shit is sad.

You I mean, it's remarkable.

It really is.

It's utterly remarkable.

And you believe.

Hey, and you believe that stuff.

Yeah.

I got people over on my ex account at Dan Cilios show going, hey, how he said hurts is not

in a make or break here.

Can you believe that?

CJ still to this day is on Twitter telling you how highly he thinks of Jalen.

Great.

A guy.

I'm telling you what I got from that interview.

You don't like it?

I don't give a shit.

I hate commercials and like hate watching.

That's why I'm here.

How about Brody Jackass that yells and tattoos of hurts on his leg from IP?

It's a it's a it's a romper room.

For the Eagles.

Dude, the only reason WIP has ratings is because of you and the great fan base and Philly.

They could put any Jackass behind them mics and they're going to get eight shares.

Kidding me.

They don't need quality host.

That's why they're not paying anybody.

Back in the day when they're paying people a million dollars, now they pay them $120,000.

Never wonder?

It doesn't matter who's behind the mic.

They're not paying anybody big money over there.

Dude, Angelo made $3 million a year.

That's Kid make $3 million.

I don't have guys like that over there anymore.

I thought WIP is emerging money and the Eagles are supporting WIP with the money.

No, they're paying $10 million a year.

Zander told us all and the ratings so they could sell advertising spots.

Let me tell you something, David.

If they don't make money during the football season, the other six months, they got the

Philly's in your brain.

The Philly's are good.

I'll tell you one station that's going to benefit is $975,000 to Phanatic.

They're going to benefit, you know why?

Because they have the sixers and come the winner.

I'm not saying no beat them, but they're going to be made, they're going to make them competitive.

Jalen comments in the interview makes it sound like he was absolutely no trust in this

offense.

I just do what I'm told in other words, don't blame me when it fails.

Yeah, I took that.

I do what I'm told.

And when he talked about the coordinators, he goes out and lost count.

And when the interviewer wanted him to expand more, he stopped because he didn't want to

say anything detrimental to the team.

I wouldn't either.

Take a $50 million by legacy and Philly.

I'm a Jordan guy.

What's the end game?

Tampa media is not like this at all sales.

They've got four different guys that have reported on the bucks for decades, Kaufman,

Stroud, Reynolds and Almond.

And they're fair, especially Stroud.

Yeah, you're right.

97 will 1000% benefit from a bond.

This will be their best year with ratings.

It will probably be just as good as IP.

I don't know about that because that station doesn't have the reach.

Jalen told you he wasn't the one who called for it, Verts like we all knew he didn't yet.

You all believed it for five months.

I never believed that.

I believe Jalen hurts did what he was told.

I never believed that.

It's just great take my friend regarding IP.

I couldn't have said it better.

That's why I'm a Jacob nation guy.

That's why and get this guys.

This is the only place in Philly that you guys can vent whether you agree or disagree

with the host because they're not going to put you on.

Do you think M. Reyes would have a shot at WIP if he disagreed with how he rose

men?

No.

They're not going to do that.

They don't want any negative shit going out like that.

But stills why are they afraid to ask the right questions?

I'm confused because they want a narrative.

The Philadelphia Eagles care how they're looked at by you.

Jalen's body language you could see him walking away tells you all he needs to know.

Hey, Casey, everyone's got a way of getting to where they want to get to.

Okay.

Hurtz has got a way in a formula for his success.

How you looked at that interview.

I'm sure others looked at it differently.

I could care less either way.

It's not an indictment in any way whatsoever on what he's accomplished in Philly.

I'm making a comment on what I see and how I took that exchange between the guy from

GQ.

I think his name was Zach Barron and with Jalen Hertz.

Nothing more.

If you want to make more of it, have at it.

Let us true sales interaction with chat is exceptional.

Steve and you and I see different when it comes to your team, but everyone gets a shot here.

So it's all we can hope for is another winning season.

And I say that because we will be doing the same song of dance next year with another

OC to now there is a 99% chance you'll have a brand new offensive coordinator in 2027.

Think about this.

The only time that you haven't had an OC the following year come back with Shane Stuykin.

It's also the reason why I'm here.

I wait for you to call David.

Thank you.

That's what I love about the National Football Show open dialogue, dude.

It's a lost art.

It is a lost art.

Now when you're when you're constantly throwing shots at me, I'm not going to that shit anymore.

I'm talking about the Eagles.

That's fine because this ain't about me.

I hope the Eagles go get a better backup quarterback and tied in right behind.

Bring back back then and Zach when I would feel a lot better.

Those do those backup quarterbacks right now.

And I'll say this.

Hey, by the way, I heard John McMullen say that Chris Cooper is getting a lot of love

for Willie Lampkin and Marquell Bell.

Well, they did average 78 yards rushing in the preseason.

I mean, I get those guys look like they play great in practice.

We'll see how they play in a game.

I'm giving people kudos for practicing in their own building.

Okay.

All right.

Let's see how the online performs when they get into a game.

So far, well, we haven't seen the starters.

All I've seen is Sean Manion, like calling play so far and he's very underwhelming.

So, he goes have one of the worst backup quarterback positions behind the Browns and

the jets.

Thoughts on how they fixed that position of Hertz goes down.

I think they'd make a trade for somebody more competent to try to bring somebody in

there.

I'll tell you what, when Tyler Hungley was out there, I wish they would have grabbed his

ass and put him there because he makes a lot of sense to me.

Sales, if Hertz and Manion click personally and professionally and have great success

in Manion is a threat to get poached.

Do you think next days are numbered or they'll get another OC for Hertz?

They'll get another OC for Hertz.

Okay.

And by the way, Hertz and Manion clicking, Jailer's going to have to go out of his personality

to be close to his OC.

I don't think he's close to anybody.

Hey, I don't think Aaron Rogers was close to anybody.

Now I don't think in no way, if calling Hertz a dick like Aaron Rogers, in no way.

In all honesty, Eagles should do whatever they can to trade for Mac Jones.

Sales, I really am concerned for landing this year.

Look at the first few weeks, the DT's will face.

I know.

They get this.

I know.

I mean, he's got some pretty good football players that he's going to be going against.

At Tennessee, he's got, he's got what's his name that he's going to have to face.

And then he's got the Rams.

And then he's got Aaron Donald.

Sales, I really am.

Okay.

Here we got that.

Thank you.

Sales, but what about the previous OC that he was working with this summer?

Think that was all professional.

He actually likes and cared for Hertz.

Vice versa.

I don't think Hertz went out of his way to make the organization look stupid.

If he wasn't really personally attracted to Scott Lawflar.

I really do Jeffrey Simmons.

Thank you, Kyle.

Yeah.

Tennessee.

Each quarterback on every team has a different hurdle and have to jump with each organization's

problems.

I think after five years, no quarterback should have excuses.

And you either win with or win with what you got or lose.

You agree?

Yeah.

If the organization puts city players around a quarterback, he's not going to win no matter what you do.

Yeah, I agree with that.

If you've got poor organizations like Cincinnati, Joe Burrow has no chance to win because ownership doesn't want to win.

Yeah.

You deal with the best you can.

I mean, Joe Burrow took the bangles to the Super Bowl already.

The bangles who have been a worst organization since their inception in the NFL.

Love these comments.

Air Donald now ain't old air in Donald.

Laneed Dickerson now ain't old Laneed Dickerson.

Big sales as far as the reporters of journalists goes.

The ones with access are not allowed to do their jobs at risk for losing that access.

Correct.

You know what?

I showed people what the hell was that?

Oh, yeah.

Somebody asked me about credentials and shit.

Hell, I haven't gone to a Super Bowl in probably five years.

But I went to 20 of them.

I don't go there because I'm not looking to kiss anyone's ass.

You know what's asking you have to get for a credential?

I'd have M. Reyes lips.

If I had to get the credentials I wanted.

Especially today.

Honest to God.

You'd have to have guppy lips.

You know the little tiny birdies that wait for the worm to come.

Like the little M. Reyes mouth.

That's that's what you have to do nowadays to get those credentials.

I don't know.

So serianny gave a shit show answer today.

When asked about five quarterbacks, he says it's a competitive room.

And we're developing coal painting.

I pray that J.L.A. doesn't get injured.

Um, he said the room was competitive.

The room was a shit show.

The room was competitive.

Like what?

Dude, that's already a lie.

That's already a lie.

The room was competitive.

The room was competitive.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Did people leave anything?

The bagels made a mistake.

And did the opposite.

Got the weapons before the old line.

Yeah.

I would have taken Penaisil before Jamar Chase.

Since you say the bangels are the worst organization, I'll point to you.

The chargers.

Turn right there.

I'm going to run the ball again.

It'll be faster.

Less pressure on that right.

MCL.

Broke took one of the worst defense is an old line.

It was super ball.

Why hasn't he demanded a trade?

I don't know.

55 million reasons.

New England.

What's the last time you see in a quarterback bitching about where he was?

I'll taun him to the board.

I'll t his ones and the paper broken.

That's how a McDonald KTVU reason-

President Justin Bieber did his tests on the one son of a million lawmakers.

media credentials pulled by the Titans during Ward's presser.

Ward asked Stillman his own question about how his camp went.

Stillman said not well.

That doesn't shock me.

You kidding?

Dude, I've told you numerous times.

Like people from NBC Sports Philly can't come on our show.

Merrill Reese was told not he couldn't come on any longer.

Oh, yeah, ABC six can't come on anymore.

Doose can't come on.

Who else?

There's like three or four guys that can't come on.

This Bob Lang told him he couldn't.

Oh, Barrett Brooks can't.

Stills of Hurts gets extended.

We probably should look at that $60 million mark.

Because Hurts wouldn't put the team at risk like that.

What do you think the number is?

Well, here's my question.

How we rose, but did say that it's not a make or break here.

Okay, where's the money?

If it's if there's no question here, I'll come to you and give me contract extension

this off season.

Nicole Lane and clutch asked for it at the combines.

What happened?

What happened?

Hey, Hurts is in no way in a make or break here.

What about his contract?

What about it?

He doesn't have guarantee money next year except for 20 million bucks.

That's a $30 million haircut.

You think Jalen Hurts is going into the 2027 year taking a $30 million haircut with no

guarantees and no contract extension?

Get ready folks.

You got a contract coming up this coming off season before you talk to Q before you

talk to Cooper before you talk to Devonte or anybody.

You got to determine what you're doing with that dude.

There is no way Jalen Hurts is playing on the current contract that he has right now

with only $20 million in guarantees.

You know what the bucks did?

The bucks knew that they were going to be in a contract squabble with Baker Mayfield.

And you know what they did?

They fully guaranteed a starting and added $11 million in incentives.

So Mayfield will make $41 million in coming year.

They added money to his deal.

So he would feel cool on playing this year.

That's what Jalen is going to expect from the Eagles.

You think the cold win is going to, hey, SS, a starting quarterback with Jalen Hurts

is resume.

It's not taking a fucking haircut.

The guy's not taking a haircut.

Why would he?

Why would that guy take a haircut?

How would God's name do you think that guy's going to take a haircut?

Hey, all the guys on the team, hey Jalen, I know you won a lot for us, but we don't want

to pay a market value.

How about $55 million?

How about like no?

Jalen Hurts is going to be a big deal.

I know.

I know.

And the Vante was 17th.

Winning is Jalen Hurts' job.

And you need to look into Mer before you call Jalen Hurts an act.

I think he comes off like an asshole.

Most of you white people think that Jalen Hurts should bow down to you all.

Dude, is it through another show for guys like you who are fucking racepaders?

Let you go, airman.

I'm sure you guys can sit around talking about how everybody in the world that's white

is horrible.

I'm sure there's a place for you to do that.

It's got to be.

On any place in the world, there's got to be thousands of places like that for you.

This is a sports show.

Okay?

I mean, seriously, guy, I know there's thousands of places where you can shit on all the

white people you want for making takes on football players.

I guarantee you there's places like that, especially for Nimrods like you.

All good, dude.

God bless you.

Sills, but if I'm an Eagle fan, I tell Nicole, we are light years away from where we played

in 22 when we were the runner up in the MVP.

We don't like the number now.

Let's wait until next off season.

They asked at the combines.

Sills, it goes around to us saying hurts cares about winning.

Seems like they'll take a cut to get the guys like Devante, Q, Q.

Why would an agent put that out there?

Hey, I'll take less money to get guys on my, like how much less money?

$15 million, ten.

It's called making excuse for their failures.

It's everyone else's fault, but there's, let's see here.

I'm an equal opportunity offender.

That's me.

Nimrods, is there anything this guy won't say?

My God, every time I tune in, he's spewing some outrageous, God awful takes.

What was God awful?

Hey, Paul, if you don't fucking like the way the interview and how I saw it come off,

I never say anything wrong.

I think the guy's not very close to anybody.

He has winning as a number one priority.

There's many guys in this league that are like that.

If you don't like how I saw that interview, that's a youth thinking.

His way of getting to success, that's his formula.

Okay, that's his formula.

And if you don't like that, whatever.

I never really said, guy, I'm not going to make you feel better about yourself

today.

Andy Dalton is washed.

Need a quality backup for Hertz.

Joe Milton played exceptional in the preseason.

And to stick it to Dallas again would be great.

Hey, a lot of people are saying the reason that they cut Joe Milton, maybe DFW could comment

on this, was because Joe Milton played so well in the preseason that they didn't want

to have a controversy behind DAC.

If DAC comes out and he starts throwing grounders.

Ignorant shoulders always change their names and simple.

Jalen Hertz is limited as a passer in the front office wants to run a West Coast offense.

We will soon see which one sticks in 26.

That's right.

That's exactly correct, DFW.

By the way, I'm not white.

I'm Italian.

Sills is a straight shooter.

Don't like it.

Grab your pinky and pillow.

Thank you, dude.

We try to be.

It feels great take on the race comment.

We are so much alike.

I don't have a racist bone in my body.

Thanks for my parents.

I can't wait to shake your hand on December 13th.

I can't wait to, man.

Thank you.

Hey.

Folks, just to tell you, Mr. Hill, and my aunt is in here all the time watching.

My folks didn't speak a lot of English.

I mean, when I was younger, it was half Italian.

It was like English.

And many people in my family spoke Italian.

Like, I mean, I grew up around that.

My aunt more so.

Because they spoke more Italian back when my aunt was younger.

But when my grandparents raised me, when I was younger, it was 50, 60%.

They were talking Italian all the time.

I mean, Sills, what do you think of international teams joining the league?

Yeah, no.

You know when race gets involved in sports talk show, you've lost our way.

I'll say, or there's some of the people that I see you.

I'm going to be so angry at you.

I'm like, for what?

For what?

I'll say this much.

There is truly no one like Sills on this platform.

He's one of the kinds.

Andrew found a diamond in the rough when they hired big Sills.

Paul, don't start because I'll start liking you.

A holy shit.

Is that way?

Paul, I'm sorry, dude.

I'm going to have to check your DNA.

We're going to have to buy a if you get to the thing on.

By the way, there's still a handful of those things, by the way.

There's like a handful left for December 13th.

If you guys trust me, it's going to get close to December 13th and you fishes are going

to want to go.

And you're not going to be able to go.

Okay?

Think about those sales not playing Jalen and moving off of him.

Hey, whoa, Clinton.

If you want to move off for Hertz, you better tell me who first.

Okay.

You better tell me who.

You better tell me like listen.

If you want to if you want to move off that player for who?

Mac Jones, yeah, no.

You better up the thing on that.

Mac Jones?

Yeah, I don't know.

I mean, hey, I'm off for a replacement.

We replace in them with.

Or do you want to just get cheaper?

Is that's what you're doing?

Hey, by the way, so Don Tavian wicks this year.

You better pray this guy has a great year this year like 800 yards.

Because if he don't, the Vante Smith is going to struggle.

He's going to struggle.

You don't have a traditional drop back quarterback to get the Vante Smith the ball.

You don't.

He's going to be around 900 yards.

Get Don Tavian wicks doesn't have a big time season.

If that guy has a 500 yard or a 600 yard, you're in trouble at the other spot.

Because it's going to determine like I heard John say it.

I'm dropping a safety down.

I'm not letting that guy beat me.

Do you understand what's happened this year with the Eagle offense?

Last year you had three guys that could beat you.

Now you have two guys, Berkeley and Smith.

And that's it.

And the rest of them dudes are fours and fives.

What's good, cells and all of Eagle Nation at the hospital.

Pop just got out of surgery is responding.

What if I missed a man?

God bless your pop.

God bless your pop man.

Send in love for a man.

Couple Hail Mary's in a couple of our fathers.

Hope all good.

Chills, you need to tell us who if you think this is a make or break season for Jalen.

I don't know that yet.

I don't know that.

Because I want to see what it looks like.

If Hertz comes in and they win 11 games, they win at the vision.

And he's 3,300 yards and 22 touchdowns and six picks and 450 yards rushing.

How do you move off that?

For who?

You win a third straight NFC East, okay?

You win 11 games.

You get to the playoffs.

You get bounced.

But the offense looks better.

You got a fire?

I don't know.

Because you're going to be in the same position you were in 25.

How we today when asked about the future of Hertz and I quote, he is secure.

He just turned 28.

I know this is a new scheme.

I am no Jalen, but he can't leave the nest.

I think Jalen was turned here on this network, by the way.

I really do.

Zander, am I right when I say that?

I think we founded that Jalen, I term.

I think Jacob gets complete credit for that.

And by the way, I know we have, we dubbed that here.

Sills have always wanted to hear your opinion on Hertz's 22 season then and now.

Spectacular tremendous weapon.

Third down he was electric.

He was at times, undefensible.

There wasn't a third down.

I didn't think he could accomplish.

Do you threw the ball out of bounds when he sprinted to the right?

Instead of taking sacks.

I thought when he had the game in his hands versus the, I'll tell you what, Jalen hurts his

best offensive coordinator is Jalen Hertz.

And that was 2022.

That was the best coordinator for Jalen Hertz because RPO puts the decision making in the

quarterback's hands.

Since 2022, Jalen hasn't had control of his own, they have.

And they don't like that was too much power for the quarterback.

They should have just developed that.

They didn't want to.

They didn't want the quarterback to have all the say in the offense.

Nick wanted it.

That's next ego.

And that's why you've had spotty OCs up, down, up, down.

You've done that guy no favors in developing him since 22.

You just haven't.

If you would have continued that guy in 22, Jalen Hertz right now would be a better ball

player possibly than Lamar Jackson.

But you didn't want to go down that lane.

You wanted to go and do other shit.

This shows great because we could agree or disagree and everybody's heard.

Absolutely.

It's a mantra of my shows.

It feels in a contract year when the co lin allow him to run this year.

Great question.

That's a fabulous question.

Boy, if I was his agent, I'd be like, you're not running more this year.

We got a contract.

He gets hurt at the beginning of the year and Mrs. extensive time.

Eagles who used that again against him.

It's a great thought.

People make business decisions all the time.

Especially at the quarter.

Hey, you know the year Lamar Jackson.

Remember, people were saying he was 80% and he could have played.

He did it because his agent is mom and him thought it was best not to play.

I hold that against him a little bit.

He didn't he didn't want to play when he could have.

Why would Hertz stop running that offensive 22 Hertz wouldn't.

So that much success.

Doesn't that show that the offense left with Shane and Bruce Nick can't coach Jalen?

Yeah.

That's why he doesn't hire coaches that fit his skill set.

David ever since Shane Stuykin was here.

They have never hired a coach to benefit Jalen Hertz in any way.

And when they got Barclay, they turned her back on him more.

Now this is something that I always want to address.

Hertz isn't the number one problem.

Hertz is not a problem.

Style of plays the problem.

Hertz is not a problem.

Make make him a problem.

Which style of play.

Dude Matthew Stafford would be a problem in an RPO offense.

Would he not?

He would he would he would be a problem in an RPO right.

His life today can't sales fish.

And you didn't show not happy.

The bangers will get lower next one is $10.00.

Honey money muster banger.

Dude, I told you you've got to send me a tax.

I think I was sleeping in today a little bit.

Hey by the way, if you sent you say you can't send send me a picture.

What do you want to flip phone?

What do you want to see on a flip phone, dude?

Send me to fish and I'll post it.

This guy must be on like a walkie talkie.

Uh oh, 978 sales come in.

88094 sales come in.

This is fishing maniac.

Yeah, I'm out here.

I'm in the I'm in Chesapeake Bay.

I'm right near the bridge.

How you doing?

Let's go.

This guy's out of walkie talkie.

Yeah, more is good.

Duh, duh, duh, we got a fish sales.

Duh, duh, duh, duh.

Hey, can you hear me now?

My famous line for my aunt.

Can you hear me now?

No, that's my wife actually.

That's one of my wife's favorite lines.

Can you hear me now?

So it was probably that Nick didn't want to show he was

expendable.

Why else move off the most successful year?

Your quarterback instead of building off that.

That's another one.

Prince told you that I wouldn't show up on your on your show

because that what I said was, you know what I said?

Fuck New Jersey maniac.

A fucking man he sends me and supports the show.

I said, yeah, I'm not fucking doing that.

Screw that guy.

That's what Prince is telling me.

And you know that ain't true.

You say that they're doing, you're not guilty me into this.

What do you think I'm how he?

So why did you block Joe past that guy's an ass hat?

Unblock him and body that fool.

No, because he pretends to know me and he posted something

over on my Facebook or over on my Twitter page.

And the reason I do that because if you just want to

come at me, SIG and not know me or anybody that knows me

and you want to start posting shit about being racist,

I have no time for you.

Block him.

Fuck him.

I never heard of him.

Box rocks.

SIG, I don't give a shit.

Next.

It's like that loser Brunson, dude.

Dude, I could care less about people like that.

My legacy and broadcasting set.

I don't care about these people.

I mean, I love it.

Why did you do this?

Because you went over to my Twitter page,

posted something of notches and I blocked you.

Is it that hard for you to figure out?

What do you mean?

What was hard for you not to figure out?

And by the way, body slammer, I don't want to.

I don't care.

Just you're gonna make me piss my pants, leave,

and end your Jersey fishing maniac alone.

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that can't send me a picture.

Chills, I can't send you a picture there.

And I'm like,

I can't send you a picture.

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Love it.

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in social media.

I have never ever seen or looked at TikTok.

I live in the real world, not in video world.

Why did you block the guy?

Well, because he posted something.

I'm not just on my, uh, on my Twitter.

Oh, yeah.

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And he's bald.

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Jason, it's the best someone doesn't agree with you, but.

You're a racist.

And you know this how everything I read.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Take us back to the RPO for crying out loud.

The guy special in that offense.

All right.

Yeah, hey, so let me, let me do the last one here.

Um,

hurts an AJ.

I heard that exchange going back and forth between Zach.

What was the name Zach Baron and GQ.

There's no doubt.

Jalen was not going to put any effort.

In that relationship.

No way.

You know why?

AJ wanted more.

And he wanted more than what Jalen was willing to give him.

That's how I read that.

AJ wanted more from that relationship.

And.

Jalen hurts didn't want to give it to him.

You know why?

Jalen felt winning.

You should be on board with winning.

And AJ wasn't on board with just winning.

There lies the difference in the two men.

AJ wants to win his way.

Hurts wants to win anyway.

And that's the difference between the two.

That was clearly what was said.

And you can agree with Jalen's way.

And many people, including me, would agree with it.

Okay.

So, I mean.

That's how that came.

Hurts was not going to put AJ above.

The formula for winning.

He was just never going to do that.

That wasn't going to happen.

That was not going to go down that way.

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Hey, you see, Hertz at the end of that video, that interview, he wanted to keep the guy longer

because he wasn't sure that thing came off well.

Hey, and my favorite thing today was before he get the big Z, by the way, Battle Royale 430.

My favorite thing today was, hey Howard Roseman is Jalen Hertz in a maker break year.

How he roseman. Of course not. What did you think that guy was going to say today on the flagship station

of the Philadelphia Eagles? Yeah. Oh my god. That host whoever did that should be ashamed of

himself. He really should be asking that question because he knew the answer before he even,

he knew what how his response was going to be. That's shit just pathetic. All right.

Looking what I got here for, look at this. This is for Zander Krauss here. Look at this.

Look at Zander Krauss here. This is the author from the interview and everything.

You know, that shit there. We got to go on here. All right. Without further ado.

Now the transcript and the video are two different things in my opinion.

I read the transcript but when I saw the video and I went, oh, without further ado.

My man, Big Seag, Zander Krauss joined Star Hyde. Don't. What's up Big Seagals?

Woo, baby. 11 days away. 11 days. Great interview by Howie on WIP.

What do you want him to say? Oh, oh yeah. The quarterback's on the clock. He's 70. He's supposed to say.

This is coming back in this coach. Win football game. It's a setup question.

You know the answer. Every stand should want to know the answer to that question. If you are the host,

you know when you ask that question, the general manager of the Eagles is not going to answer that

and go, hey, you know what? What do you mean? Answered it? Really? He did. How come there's only

$20 million then still on his contract? You know what? To me, shows me, hey, action speak,

Glatterd and some bullshit on WIP. If that was the case, they would have addressed that.

Darren Keith, this year, Howie would say, what do you mean it's not contract time yet?

You're right. You didn't know the answer to that question when they asked it. Okay.

He said, no, I don't agree with that. And by the way, I like his explanation. This is about winning,

Silio. This is about winning. That's what Howie Rose will ultimately be judged by in the future.

Not whether he was able to pay a quarterback that had XYZ for talent in the future.

General manager. Wait a second. Who's the general manager of the Buffalo Bills?

It's the biggest bullsh** question in the history of WIP when they asked that question today.

It was completely the dumbest. I agree with you. It was a set up question.

They should have followed up, but they're WIP. They pay 10 million a year to be the official brand

in the English. And you're not going to put the GM in a bad spot. So wait, you know what the

follow question was? Who's your backup? So if you can't answer the backup, how you're going to answer

what truth, whether or not the quarterbacks in a make or break year? What you can't answer any

question is my point. Well, he answered other questions. I mean, the backup is clearly the part of

the roster right now where there's no answer. Okay. I mean, don't don't just there if in Tanner McKee

fell off the face of plan. If you thought that was well done interview with Howie today,

that more power to you. I don't think it was a well done and the rest of the Philadelphia sports media.

I don't think they did a good job interviewing them. I think that's right. Answering question.

Take that. I'll take that. Yes. Yes. Because to me, here's a line from Jerry McGuire.

Show me the money. Wait a minute. Listen to the quote. Show me the money. Here's how we rose

meant today. I think the bottom line for us in the position we're in and really for all of our

fan base is winning football games. And all Jaylin does is win football games. And that includes

our head coach as well. For me, the barometer is winning football games. In terms of what Jaylin

does, he's another guy with a tremendous track record. All he does is go out and play good football.

And here's my follow up question to that. So are you working on the deal now then? Can we expect

to contract at the end of that? Should have followed up with that. But okay, did you address it in

the offseason this last offseason? Are you working on a deal now with Nicole? Should we see one by

the beginning of the year? Quite frankly, you can actually have a contract at any time with them

right now. Would we see a contract during the year this year? That's what Mike. That would have been

my questions. I agree. But how about this is to finish out that quote. Really excited to have

him as our quarterback. Excited about this season and what we have gone forward. And I know there

are a lot of fan bases out there that would love the results we've had with him as our starting quarterback.

Well, then okay, then why don't you give him a contract?

It's a good question. Should have asked it.

If you're so high on them and you started a new offense with new coaches and a new

direction, don't you think you would have given a guy a three-year contract deal?

I do. We've said that before. We talked about that this summer. Okay. I do think how he's in a

little bit of a weight and C mode. But overall, I think the question of you asking earlier if they

win a Leather and Ball games again, and it doesn't look awesome yet again on offense, I do think

you're going to pay jail and hurts. I do too. If they win a third straight end of C championship

and he's at 32, 3, 300 yards and 20 touchdowns and six picks, my question and Zander, you have to

agree with one thing I've always said. Who you replacing them with? Yeah, that's a big problem.

Okay, if you're replacing him with Mac Jones, that ain't it for me. You better be talking about

somebody like Joe Burrow. Bob says still is a parent in the back doesn't cost millions.

Yeah, there you go, Bob. And might have to negotiate in table next year, Bob, but we'll see. We will see.

Big Z, I'm going to give you the big sales takeaways on what I watched with that interview with

Q with GQ and with Zach Barron, I think his name is. This is my takeaway. I'm taking it any way you

want. I think Jalen hurts looked at winning and the more he won, what was the line he used?

The price of success. There's a price for success. And I personally believe that Jalen hurts

looks at success and winning over relationships. And he's not going to be a guy. It's not his

personality, it seems where he's going to be somebody like Brady that's going to have

relationships with Grant Kowski or with Edelman and with Amandola like that where these guys

are blood buddies and these guys were always working out, always hanging out, always together like

that. And again, people go, it's still as you bring up the greatest quarterback of all time. Well,

wait, it doesn't take any talent to be friends. There's no talent there that takes no talent to be

close to people. Now look, that's his formula. He looks at it this way. AJ wanted me to be friends

with him and AJ wanted our friendship to carry the day. He hurts looked at it like this. Your

friendship doesn't supersede winning. And it will never with me. And I would take it a step further.

I think Jalen just give a rat to ask about the real shit that's about the business. I mean,

he even said that. He said, you know, I he said this. I pray that I have a lot more memories left

to make in life one day. Yes. Yes. But right now, I'm focused on football is basically what he said

paraphrase. And I thought that I don't have a problem with that. No, no, it's his formula.

No, I mean, you want to be buddy, buddy. You know, maybe Jalen's not to do to do that with. Is there

some people that that might alienate? Sure. But overall, I'm willing to live with that. I prefer

that mentality to the alternative if I can only have one. You know, I'll take that mentality all day.

Sometimes you can't have your cake. You need a tube. You know, if he needs to be buddy, buddy,

with people, or, you know, and he compromises on some of the value. That's not his nature. That's not

his nature to be buddy. And that, you know, so I'm good with that. But I would agree with your

take about Jalen's priority clearly. Is winning is winning football games far more than making

friendships, being buddy, buddy, with people, saying the right thing to everybody. He cares about

winning games, holding people to the standard that he believes they should be held to. And that's

his, that's his north star right now. I think his definition of being a teammate is different than

others. His definition of a teammate is, do your fucking job. He had to do my job.

Honestly, maybe I'm old school, but I kind of like that. I'm, I think this soft world is part of why

people don't resonate with that anymore. Like, I think AJ really wanted to have. He thought his

friendship with Jalen Hertz would always be above the team. I don't think Jalen Hertz the more

winning that Jalen Hertz had. At least for me, that interview came off. And by the way, you know,

when asked a question about all the coordinators, he stopped because he didn't want to say anything

disparaging against the organization. He was, I stopped counting. When he was asked about that

relationship with Brown, he says it clearly got severed or whatever it fell out, whatever it was,

whatever he said. And to me, grew apart, grew apart, grew apart. And for me, I, how I took him,

he's a loof. I see why some people like Brayton Covey a couple of years ago said he's not very

approachable. Because, again, you know, Zander, when you have one, when you have one task at hand,

and you have one goal at hand, you don't see anything else except this to end of that finish line.

I don't see friendship. Look at Brady sacrifice. Brady didn't sacrifice teammates. You know,

he sacrificed his family. I think people, I think good. So I think Brady had different, I,

Brady failed in his family. Brady looked and took his relationships with Grunk and all these guys

and had a higher value on them than even his own children and his wife. It cost them in the end.

He went back for eight, nine. Okay. I'm saying there's just a different mentality. I'm sorry, like,

hurts is more air Rogers, but not quite the asshole that Roger definitely not quite the asshole. But

I understand what you're coming from. And I think that we're a loof. John used that a while ago.

Some people take it as an insult. I don't think it's an insult at all. Now, you know, if you ever

heard the phrase, you know, like the 99%ers, you know, Jaylin's not like that. You know, if you get a

locker room of 53 men, a lot of dudes get caught up. You know, what are you up to this week? Oh,

you are with, do I want to get our wives together? Oh, you want to go to a bar? You want to go to the

club? But you don't want to, you want to trade jerseys? You want to have fun? You know, you want to

chat on social media? You want to do a podcast together? That's all these other things. Jaylin,

I think, is a loof from that style of what, you know, and I don't think that's, I don't think

that's an insult at all. Somebody in the chat says this is an insult. To me, that's not an insult at all.

In fact, I think that's kind of a compliment. You know, the other thing that I get a little bit of

in the same, in the same area of this conversation is, I get the sense that some people, and I'm not

up close and personal to it, but just the way that Jaylin carries himself, I would, I would guess

that people are intimidated by him a little bit to some extent. I think people, I think it could

be a team. It could be a guy like, I think that interview was very uncomfortable for the interviewer.

That's a perfect example of I think Jaylin at times almost intentionally made him uncomfortable.

Now, I think that guy handled it pretty well, but I think his demanding presence and his unrelenting,

you know, natured approach, which he will not compromise for anything. You know, he could put

him in a weird spot, and he's never going to give in on what he believes the pursuit is.

Or what the goal is, whatever he is, whatever he sets. I could see, again, I used a cubby example.

I could see even someone like AJ Brown, who's a vulnerable guy. You know, he's had vulnerable

moments in his life. He's clearly a down-to-earth type of guy who wants to get deep in conversation.

And I don't think Jaylin's about that at all, you know, and I think that could, you know,

some people probably wouldn't admit its intimidation. Call it, I don't, you know, I don't know

that they feel as though he's an A-hole, maybe. I don't know what to do.

I listen, I think you could perceive him as an asshole, but I think that personality,

you have to be around it a little bit. And no, can I give you another comparison? It's almost

like a Derek Jeter kind of mentality, like almost how Jeter would stand off-ish with the Yankee

team. That's a decent call. Okay. And like you never really knew who Derek Jeter was.

I know more about Derek Jeter now being on the Fox Desk than I did ever when he was a player.

Nobody would ever go up to Jeter. You know, they went up to, they went up to Gary Sheffield.

They went up to Paul O'Neill. They went up to all those guys. They didn't go up to Derek Jeter.

And Jeter was the captain of the football team. So he has that kind of mentality.

It's kind of co-bing too. Like, you know, people use that. A little bit of co-bing too, isn't that so?

Like the guy. Now the question there would be, Jaylin references those guys a lot. He even

referenced them in this interview, Michael and Kobe. And I think where you have a problem with

someone doing that is if it comes across as phony. Right? You're trying to, you're trying to be

Kobe when you're not, you know, but to be a phony, he ain't phony to me. He ain't phony to me.

I got that was my next comment. He's not phony. You know, I think that's truly the way he carries himself.

Some, again, some people might not like that. But I do believe that. And I said this when they won

the Super Bowl, that it's one thing to talk to talk. It's another thing to walk the walk.

And I think in many ways, Jaylin walks the walk and it rub some people wrong.

It ruffles some certain feathers the wrong way. You know, and it is what it is. I can understand it.

And in a way, it kind of makes me like a more don't let, don't compromise on your values on what

you believe to be right. Don't, don't compromise on that. The play gate to people's feelings.

Fuck their feelings. You know, Jaylin, do you believe what you, what you subscribe to? And he does

believe it is the most important thing to subscribe to at this error of your life with the position you

hold with the job that you hold. That's winning football games above all else. He would say yes to

that. So good. What are you going to break that? You're going to compromise on that. So you make

AJ feel better or anybody else feel better. In fact, I think it kind of makes me like Jaylin a

little bit more to be honest with you. Okay. So I thought this was a great comment somebody made

in the chat here and throw your name up who came up with this. Jaylin is kind of in a contract

conversation coming up in this office. He's in the agree. Yeah. I mean, he's gotten less,

I think he's got like 20 something guaranteed next year. So there's, there's very,

there's some kind of conversation coming. Absolutely. There's, and I would go this far. I mean,

and I think everybody knows this from just following the NFL. There's a zero percent chance. The agent

will let him take the field with $20 million of guaranteed money next year. It's not happening.

So something must be addressed in the next 12 months, let's say before the start of next season.

Why would you, if you're in a cold win or clutch, allow Jaylin hurts to run in 26 and put him

in more harms way then because I don't believe in clamoring up and playing scared in in

in order to win big. I think Jaylin is a, I thought that a little bit in 23 when I saw, I agree,

but I saw that a 23 game when it gets to England. I said, this guy's sliding before he gets hit.

I don't disagree, but I think the top has to come off on that, man. You know, if I'm,

if I'm the agent, I'm actually the opposite. You know, you need to, you need to go out there and

leave it all on the table. You know, you need to, you need to be the valuable player that we all

know that you are in every area of the game. You know, and let the chips fall where they met.

If you're going to go into it, because to me, that, to me, we just talk about hurts as mentality.

To me, it's kind of the antithesis of the way he carries himself to play scared or to shy away

from the moment. I mean, he's in the pursuit of winning and winning big. We just determined that

and established that. So part of that is you being a great runner of the football, you know,

as a quarterback. That's, dude, that's one of the reasons he got the first $50 million contract.

So to me, I don't think it should be. I get where you're going though. But I think the pushback to

that is Jalen is not a quarterback that wins from the pocket. For example, a guy who wins from the

pocket, you do not want running because then you compromise their ability to win from the pocket.

I mean, Drake May, Justin Herbert, he's a dual threat kind of guy that's better in the pocket.

I don't get what? Burrow. But Burrow is even a little different because he's such a statue. I mean,

he's not going to run. He's more like great. I mean, he can a little bit, but Justin Herbert,

I mean, he had 70 hours Russian versus like if he didn't have a contract and I was his agent,

I'd be like, yo, dude, your arm is good enough to get you paid. Stop running until we get this contract.

Agreed. Hurts, I think, is different. He's a different player. He's a different, he's a different

athlete, a different talent. And I would not, I would not try and condense that to try and win big.

I don't think condensing that gets you the results you want there. So I would say, leave it all

out in the field. And I'm pretty sure the Eagles will take care of him if he does. If you guys,

we think that makes it tougher to pay him. You don't do one thing exceptional.

Like those other guys. Well, he does do those guys do those guys do one thing exceptional.

Let's fair. I mean, I like the versatility of Jaylin, but I'll say this. If I were Jaylin,

and I'm not, I'm just giving you guys my opinion. Forget if I was Jaylin. If I was how he,

I would rather give Jaylin a max extension because he ran his ass off this year and have to figure

out, have to get out of the contract early because maybe he loses his legs or he struggles in the

future because he can't keep up with that athleticism for another four or five years. I'd rather

figure out how to get out of that contract early like he's done many other times. Then have to go

to the quarterback market next year and say, okay, do we want Mac Jones to be our quarterback? Do we

want Tanner McKee to be our quarterback? Like, if I'm how we, I'll push that problem down the road

and say, I'll deal with that when it comes, you know, I want the best of Jaylin hurts. My best

chance of I'm how to win another Super Bowl in the next three years is to get the very most out

of Jaylin hurts. Not another quarterback that's not here right now. That'd be my opinion. I don't know

if I'm right, but that's the way I would see it. Let me, let me take you back to something you said

about not putting relationships above winning with Jaylin hurts. Don't you think you get into a

little bit of a problem when things aren't going well and you need to go to that player as the

quarterback and you need to motivate AJ Brown and you need like personally, AJ Brown on the sidelines

with a book in his hand. Which was okay. No, no, no, no, wait a minute. Get this. What about what

about? I mean, oh my gosh, thinking back on that guy's reading a book in a plow game. Wasn't

it a plow game? No, I think it was really, it was really. Yeah. Okay, listen, but the point I'm

making is hurts is not going to address that at any time. Brady would have. I think any quarterback

would have addressed that manning would have any guy would go and go, if you're not focused on winning,

AJ was crying out for attention and I'm with Xander. Wait a second. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

you know, you know what's funny? You think these guys, some of these guys don't need this,

but they do. No, you're right, but it reminds me of like, Jaylin is like the freaking the lion in the

jungle. That's the same and all the fleas are picking out its ass and the lion doesn't pay attention

to the stupid fleas. Welcome to the NFL quarter. His tail on him way. And like, welcome to the NFL

quarterback position. You're not wrong, but I didn't think that the the gnats would be AJ Brown.

Yes, you did. Divas receivers. AJ Owens, the first week he got here, I called him that.

Dude, you know what, so I would have an easier time. I would have an easier time with this if

this were Devote Smith put another thing because Devote Smith is actually the one who hasn't gotten

the level of numbers that he could begin it. Again, I brought up the numbers too. I don't have sympathy

for AJ Brown. He was the fourth highest producing wide receiver in all of professional football.

Okay. In his era with Jaylin. I guess what? He's off the team now. And because it wasn't enough for

him, dude. Right. Some some people can never be satisfied. Okay. At some point, satisfying them

is a losing game. Okay. Do you think that Mike Tomlin and Ben Rathasberger handled Antonio Brown for

nine years? Well, yeah, but did Brady cut bait on him when it was when it was, it became too

much. It's like a pen. Yeah. It's a pendulum. Certain times compromised to make somebody happy,

make sense. That's a situation. It's not. No. And it gets to the point where you got to pull away

from that big mission. No, guess who pulled away from Antonio Brown in New England. It was Bella

checked because what happened the following year? Brady brought his ass to Tampa. Yeah, but I

don't think I don't think Antonio that wasn't Brady. I don't think A.B. is the right calm. Bro, wait a

second. Well, wait, yes, it is because there's a high level guy you have to babysit. I think Michael

Irvin is a better. Okay. Okay. Michael Irvin loves Troy Ackman. AJ Brown does not love

Jalen Hertz. Jalen Hertz does not. AJ Brown is more sensitive and more emotional than Michael Irvin.

And he's a more jealous dude. I don't know. You put me in a tough spot. I'm not. Michael Irvin now.

Okay. I don't think Michael Irvin felt threatened. Is that a better way to frame it? No, Michael

Irvin's never threatened about anything in his life. I think how about this? He's not less emotional.

He's more secure. He's less insecure than AJ. Michael Irvin's secure and everything he does in

his life. It may not be the right thing. Exactly. But he is. That's kind of how I feel about Jalen too.

I mean Jalen's that way. Okay. So explain this to me on Dach. So I didn't think so George

Pickens was a nightmare in Pittsburgh. Was he not? I don't know if he was a nightmare. Well,

they they moved off him because they couldn't take his ways any longer. Sometimes my time.

He's a little bit of a buttercup too. Folks. Everybody knows that George Pickens was very unhappy

and they were unhappy with it. Okay. Well, what happened? Why can Dach press out in shot and

hammer handle him so easily? That's my question to you. Well, maybe it's maybe that thing will run

its course too. So what's the trend here? They're all receivers. You get about three years with them

and then you probably won't know. I know. I know. I do. I'm not. I think the bonnet will that will be

true. No, I'm hoping it's not. No, no way. There's no way that guy has ever been that guy.

Three years. Give me three years and then blow him out of here. No, there's just no way. Okay.

So that hurts an AJ thing. There was clearly. Those two guys just

fell off the cliff. Yeah. Do you agree with this? What was the difference between the first two

years with AJ and the last two years with AJ? Well, there were certainly more balls going his

way. I mean, he had 1500 yards a year this first two years. So it was definitely.

St. Paul Barkley was the difference though. He came and showed up. So it hurts to look at it

this way, right? Oh, we're going to win more through Barkley's legs than AJ's hands.

And I agree with that insecurity comes into play. And that's what ended the relationship.

Do you agree? That's what ended the relationship. That's a big part of it. I mean,

I brought a Michael Irving in the insecurity. I don't think he was ever insecure about

what's his barrier? Emmett Smith. Emmett Smith. Run in the ball.

Mm-hmm. I mean, you know why? There was no other Devante Smith on that cowboy team.

That's true, but at the same time, I think they were all still more bought in on the collect. Now,

again, when you were, when you, because Michael had Michael had bought in in the collective at Miami

with Jimmy. Well, and I think there is, it's, it's very normal. I think there's like a difference

of being like AJ and then wanting the ball like a normal athlete. When you're trying to win big,

and you believe in yourself to the level that some of these athletes have confidence in their

self, the most natural thing in the world, which cannot be disputed or criticized in any way,

is that they want the ball because they believe it gives their team the best chance to win.

Ah, if I'm Michael Irving and I think I'm the best receiver on planet earth, obviously,

I want the ball. I think we're going to win when you throw me the ball. I think AJ felt that at

times, but I also think he was unwilling to allow that ball to be spread around or to allow

other people to flourish in that same life because as good as AJ is as a wide receiver,

St. Paul was every bit as good if not better as a running back. And at the time, that was more

productive for the Eagles than going to AJ Brown was. And they, they rode that hot hand and I would

never knock them for that or criticize them for that to try and satisfy AJ Brown, who seemingly can

be can never be satisfied anyway. I'm going to make this very clear to you, Zander.

Jalen Hertz puts everything above or below winning. Everything is below winning.

Everything he does in his life. I think that's a good thing. And did I buy that? I sure did.

What I didn't feel like, listen, would this be fair? I just don't think he comes off as like

a very close teammate. He doesn't want to get too close because he knows he may have to make

decisions because again, there's a price to play, pay for, for leadership. And that leadership,

what he's telling you is, I don't care who's on his football thing, dude. Like when he was even asked

the question about the Vonte, hey, now your guy's number one in a paraphrasing as well here. He goes,

hey, I can't wait to see his skills out on display. Instead of coming out going, man, he's been waiting

his whole time. He's been telling me behind the scenes what he really he's been wanting to do. And

now we're going to get a chance to do it like we were at Alabama. But it was, it was like a company

answer. And so he answered it like, you know, it just comes off like it's not very personal. He

doesn't come off like a personal dude, dude. Like he's not a very personable with like a personality

kind of guy. That doesn't bother me. I mean, okay. All right. Hey, dude, I know a lot of quarterbacks

like that. I'm not very personable in my life. I'm more person. I'm far more personable on the

air than I am not. You guys would be surprised. You be really surprised. Ask my in-laws. Hey,

bro, I'm a loner too. People would be shocked. I mean, I don't mind. I love it. I'm good with it. Yeah,

absolutely. Xander, answer me this on this new offense that you guys are going to run. Now,

I want to get this right. It's a style of green Bayes offense. Is that correct?

I guess. I mean, it's hard. I don't love playing that because. And it's Sean McVase offense.

Is that right? Well, I think it's I think it's a hybrid of the West Coast. I think it's a hybrid of

what the, you know, this more evolved passing version spread. Some of this new, you know,

modern game stuff. But again, it's hard to it's to me. It's hard to say exactly what it is until

we really see what they're trying to do. And so I don't even think it's one game or four games.

I think it's like the first eight games because you talk about and you've won me over so well

on the point that September is just a lying month of football, especially in the new age with

the preseason. And until week eight to week 10, it's hard to really get a gauge on the proper trends.

You know, bear approach used to say a three games is a trend. Yeah, you know, but a lot of those

early trends, those first four games, I think it's tough to look for trends. Then you get five,

six, and seven, and you're still like, all right, that's the first three games period where I trust.

Now, let me figure out, you know, where they are in that week eight, nine, and 10. So I don't think

we're going to really know, but I guess calling it a version of Green Bay would be fair. Yes.

And and McVase, right? Yeah, I think. Yes. Okay. I presume. Okay. Well, help me out on this.

You want to run an offense that you're six and oh against Green Bay in the Rams.

You beat the Rams four times. You beat the Packers twice. You've never lost to those teams in

Surrey, Ony's time. And you want to run their offense? Well, you beat Handelie. I disagree at this point.

A lot of people make it just not the way I see it personally. I think the team result and the

individual size of the ball are like, for example, the Eagles beat the Rams. Are you telling me that

they couldn't have had a better offense in that game? I'm telling you that you're going to run an

offense that you have massive success against and you think you're going to make the ball. Yeah,

but why do the Eagles have a massive success against them? Because they ran the ball. Well, but also

because of why they play defense. They have great defense. So to me, it's not I don't I'm not a fan of

saying you're becoming what the Rams are. We're running more of what they're offense. Why couldn't

you put your name on your own offense? Well, they've tried to do that, but you know, they've struggled

to find some of that identity because one, I think it's hard to find coaches that want to coach

this because you know, this is the way the club works, everybody. They all come all these offensive

coaches come up learning the same offense. It's like anything in your life, right? If you're trying

to be a whatever the case might be, you'll watch the most successful guys that are making the

most amount of money and say, how can I build my version of that? All these offensive guys,

they're not paying offensive coaches. Ben Johnson's $17 million for year one to be a run first guy.

They're not higher in offensive coordinator, Clint Cubiacs and Shanahans and McVase and

Shield houses and all these dudes getting and Kevin O'Conn, they're not higher in those offensive

minds to be run first guys, to simplify offensive gameplay. It might be the right move,

but it clashes with what I think some of the coaching career aspirations are. So I think you have

lesser coaches looking to run it. I think you have lesser players looking to run it because like

AJ Brown, it's not as productive statistic wise. Really, the only people I think would welcome it

would be the running backs because they become a barruiser and get to ball 450 times a year. So

you know, I think that's part of it, but I don't agree with the notion of

why are you trying to play their offense when you beat them? Like, our team beat them. Our offense

did it. We beat the Packers last year. I think it was like 10 to 7, wasn't it?

Yep, yeah, something like that. I mean, we beat the shit out of them defensively. Are you

arguing with me that they beat them offensively? I mean, they did not. So I'm not sure.

Yeah, but you're old way.

Yeah, but you're old way of running your offense was more successful than Shanah McVase way of

running his. Well, no, it's not offensively. If you boiled down offensive football, no,

it's not. I mean, you said all the time. Wait, I thought we were talking about the collective

here. Well, we're talking about the collective when it comes to the results of the games.

Like, what is it? Well, what does he talk about? Why are they playing their offense? You can,

to me, you can improve your offense without changing the way that you won games,

like on as a collective winning a football game is not my offense played better than your

offense. See, this is where I disagree with you. I don't think you could just go like this.

Guys, to tell you what we're going to do, we're going to all of a sudden turn the offense inside out,

we're going to change with the same personnel. And we're going to do the same shit with the same

personnel. That'd be like asking Matthew Stafford to run on our P.O. Yeah, but I don't think,

I don't think playing their offense means you you you get rid of that great defense. I don't think

it gets rid of the reasons that the Eagles have been so successful versus those teams. Okay, like I

said, though, just because it doesn't look aesthetic, you had more success than the Chomeg Bay

offense. You've had more success than the Green Bay offense. But they have an offensive way. Now,

they have it. Okay, now they have collectively, they've won. Collective, yes. So they're trying

to, they're trying to, they're trying to make it more important to make the offense look better,

or winning ball games. Winning ball games, 100%, but is it a fair thought process to think collectively,

we want to keep winning at the level we are, but individually, meaning offense, not individual players.

On the offensive side of the ball, we want to be bent. Okay, I think that's a fair aspiration.

I think that's a fair thing to chase. To me, that doesn't, that doesn't mean to me that you're

trying to turn into one of these other teams that you beat. To me, that doesn't answer, well,

you beat them four times. Why are you trying to become it? No, I'm not. I'm just trying to

improve our offense. And they do some things that we might be able to implement that could improve

our offense. That doesn't mean I'm trying to become it or play like it. Okay. And the reason I

asked this question is because here, here's a quote, he was on Nick Seriani was also on

WIP, Nick Seriani talks about implementing the new offense this offseason with Oseashan Manin.

It's been a lot of fun. We changed for a reason.

Zander, what was that reason? Because the offense has, you know, I think, has

been effective enough to provide the spark it needs to provide to play complimentary football.

You know, the running game is so great in 24 and they feel like that maybe isn't going to be

able to come back at that level. So if you don't make my call, I just sound like AJ.

No, because I think AJ wanted to compromise the big picture just to serve one smaller need.

It's again, it's what I just said. I think you can still serve the big picture while wanting to

improve your offense. Are you insinuating to me that the only way the Eagles can be as successful

as they've been the last four years is to be the 25th ranked offense and football?

I'm insinuating that that formula of what Jayla Hertz talks about in winning. Like he said,

I don't get why more things at once came. I don't get why you can't multiple.

My question, but wait, wait, why would you change something that works?

And win because the and again, the individual offense hasn't worked that well.

Didn't work that well last year.

Zander, like I said, though, the number one thing is your bottom floor is 11 wins.

I mean, you're talking about a football team that's gone through the greatest era of football

and you change because you wanted to look aesthetically better on offense.

That is nothing to do with winning.

I see it differently. I think you can be on the same pursuit while still trying to improve your

offense. To me, that doesn't mean you're gutting everything you did to achieve success.

Oh, like, okay, well, if you think you're going to all of a sudden be a passing offense,

not saying you do. If you think they're going to be all of a sudden a balanced football team,

I don't. This is why I don't agree.

I don't know what they're going to be. I'm still waiting to see what they're going to be,

but I'm fine with them saying that we want to try and improve this offense.

Then to me, that doesn't mean that they're gutting the way they've won games.

I think that's, I feel like to me, that's to me, that's living on the extremes.

They were the 25th or 26th or 27th all. That's not good.

It's fair to say, all right, how do we keep winning games?

But how do we improve this so that we increase our margin for error so that we give ourselves a

better shot in the playoffs first of 49ers so that we give ourselves the best chance to win and

go to the NFC championship game so that we give ourselves the best chance to win. So when we play

in a Super Bowl, you know, I think it's fair to, I think it's fine for multiple things there to

be true. I do. I don't think it means you're gutting the way you want. That's just my problem.

Okay, fair enough. Do you agree with me on this?

Yes. Smitty season for 2026 is going to determine the output of what

Dantavi and Wix's game is going to be this year, meaning this.

If this guy doesn't give you at least 5600 yards this year,

if you think Smith is going to have over 1200 yards, you're crazy.

Because I agree with John, they're just going to drop a safety down.

I'm going to force those other guys to beat them.

And then you put more pressure on your run game.

Because again, I mean, you've got to count on a quarterback.

We've done an anticipation throwing quarterback to help the passing game.

Dantavi and Wix's year is going to determine how good Smith is by helping him get open.

Bro, really? So you don't think that you're going to double the rest of those guys are not very

good. You don't even let me answer. All right. Let me get said.

I said, I think Smith is a good enough player to have success in that environment on his own.

I don't think it all comes down to Dantavi and Wix. Now, to your point,

absolutely. Complimentary football makes things better for everybody.

If Safe-Wam runs well and Wix catches the ball when they leave him open,

or they give, you know, they, the Eagles take advantage of where the defense is giving you holes.

Hell yeah, it's going to make like easier on Dantavi Smith. But I don't think all of his

success is going to come down to what Wix does. Okay. In fact, I would put, I would take exactly what

you explained and say that applies more to Barclay. Are you saying that if Dantavi is what?

Barclay's level of success to me would have a bigger impact on Smith's level of success than Wix.

In my opinion. That's not a terrible take. I would, I would, I would only say this to you, though.

I would say, listen, for me, I think you got to have another guy on the other side.

I really do. So you think he's going to have, uh, Devonte Smith, I was just looking up Devonte Smith's

numbers here. So Devonte Smith's year without AJ was this all-be-it-rick-y year. So,

but his work year yet 64 catches for 916 yards without AJ on the field with AJ on the field 1196,

1066, Missed some ball games in 26 got hurt still at 833 and last year at a thousand eight yards.

You think that he's going to have a better season than any of the years he's put together so far

and he'll have a career year this year. Do you think that?

I think he's going to, I think he's going to have a better year because of volume, you know,

because of the year the sheer need to get him involved. I mean, when you don't have as many

playmakers to spread the ball around to, then you're most important guys to come number one. Like,

for example, bat, I'll use basketball. Why does Steph Curry average 35 in the playoffs with the warriors,

but in the Olympics, they all average 18. Look, every fucking guy is good, you know, so I think

Devonte is more focused this year because there's not as many good fighters out there. So, I think he's

going to have a better year. So, the offensive passing game goes through Smith then, right?

Definitely. Passing game 100%.

So, they're not going to not really try to spread it around them.

They're going to still force it to one guy. Well, I think they're going to try and be

spreading it a little bit more, but I don't, I'm more I'm waiting C-Mode on that to be honest with you,

because I'm not really of the belief right now that the third wide receiver, if it is,

McCoy Leman has instilled much belief in the quarterback or the staff to like force get him the ball.

Like, if you got a great wide receiver three, it's like, all right, let's throw some wrinkles at

this defense. Let's get him on their toes. Let's spread them out a little bit. Let's get the ball

in the hands of wide receiver three and four so we can, you know, make them change the way they're

playing coverage, make them change their double team, double team in the Vante Smith. I don't think

McCoy Leman is demanding that yet. Maybe he will in the year, but hey, did you hear that great comment

by Nick today? Why he's got four wide, why he's got four quarterbacks. Nick, it was Nick. He was on,

he goes, because it's one of the most competitive rooms that we have. Oh my gosh, it's a horrible room,

Nick. After Jaylen Merchit, it might be the one of the worst quarterback rooms in the league right now.

I don't know what happened to Ken and McCoy. He was fine a year ago or felt like he was.

Yeah, it's not showing yet. It's not showing Manie's fault, right?

I might be. Jerry's still out on him. What is Manie? What is that? An Irishman?

Hmm, I think so. Yeah. See, let's get to the supers here, man. I got to tell you, bro.

Irish, yeah. Hey, I'll tell you this. Listen to this, man. This team never ceases to amaze me on

content. That interview on GQ was fucking big sales gold. I mean, it was so I'm watching this guy

like answer questions. Love Jaylen Hurts, dude. You deep down. Oh, I didn't think he'd be

this fun to cover. I thought he was a stiff. You love him. You know what? Can I tell you this?

I'm like the Joker in Batman. Why do you want to kill me then? Kill you. You complete me.

Joshua says Hurts may not be the best pure pass or like Joshua Lamar, but quarterback is more

than stats. He wins. Elevates a big moment to deliver in the biggest stage. I mean, yeah, but

there's other things to the quarterback position too than that, Joshua. I think I'll give you this,

Joshua. And maybe you you you will too, see? I think of all the quarterbacks and pro football. I

think he utilizes the entire offensive football team to the best of his ability. And I think that

they play within a system that allows them to win ball games. And here's the one thing he doesn't

do. He doesn't give them resistance. The least amount of resistance gives you the best formula for

success. To some in some areas, yeah. I mean, he made some comments. I thought you would harp

a little bit more on in terms of the offense and all the changes around him. But, you know,

that's just kind of the way he was a runner right now. Yeah. You got that's all that shit was

old news, right? Yeah. I agree. I thought all in all it was a good interview though. I said it earlier

in a second. I like it. I mean, I thought it was cool, but all right, sales.

Woo. Baby, man. Holy cow. How about them cowboys, man? A lot of people got the cowboys this year.

Highly ranked. What do you think of them boys? It's the off season. I mean, they love this time

of the year, but I think the cowboys, it's going to be hard to do what they did on offense last

year. I didn't know. It's like Seikwang Barkley in 24, right? I mean, you can have a good year.

It's going to be hard to replicate that. You know, the offense, cowboys offense was great. By the

way, it's also great because they were losing half the games by two or three touchdowns because

they're defense suck. And I don't, I don't, I'm not convinced they've done enough on defense to

to get to the level they need to get to, but I'll give them this. I think they'll be the second

team in the NFC East. Okay. Here's one here. Here's the. Here's the lamb. What's up, Lamb? Clippers

are cooked for the next 20 years. Adam Silver just came down big on them. Wow. Shrub them

by first round picks. Here's what they did. They circumnavigated

a like a signing bonus with Kawaii Leonard. And that made him a free agent. Now Kawaii Leonard

could sign with Philly. Wow. So this is true then. They 30 million dollar fine to Steve

Balmer. Suspensions for Balmer Lawrence Frank and Gillian Zucker, who that is. Those

why let's pay 700,000 in restitution for improper benefits by the Clippers for his uncle and

former business rep Dennis Robertson. Ooh, and five first round picks. He's an automatic free agent too.

No, no, they're not doing that. Oh, they're not letting him out. No contract void or suspension for

their okay. Well, wait, I thought they tried trading him to the Toronto Raptors. I don't know.

What I found the story that I thought there were people who was fired by Leonard and June

is being banned by the NBA from all business. Wow, devastating, devastating for that dude.

All right. Good thing nobody gives a shit about the Clippers. I'll say I'll tell you this.

They've been. Clippers. How about this big Z. I never thought I'd ever see this in a billion years

on an Eagle channel. Philly 500 is honoring the Dallas Cowboys today in Cowboy Blue.

I can't believe what I'm seeing here, man. Philly 500 is honoring the Cowboys in Cowboy Blue.

Holy. I don't know. I'm going to ask Philly. Does he make these hats himself? Because I can't find

that hat right now. Oh, yeah. That is hot. He makes these hats. I know. I don't know.