FULL SHOW 9/10/2026

0:00You're listening to the Dana and Parks podcast on KMBZ. I'm just glad he didn't say hoot nanny. Yeah. We're hankering. I got hankering for some Dorito chips right now. I'm Johnson speaking of hankering and hoot nanny. We are long overdue for a buzzword with a buzzby. Ooh. Is today the day. What about hankering? You hankering for a buzzword? I don't think so. Hankering for some cooler temperatures. Well, we already got those. So you can't be hankering for them anymore because we just got them. I've never been so ready for fall in my life. I can't remember a time. I mean, it's already my favorite season, but this has been just awful. I'll tell you on was it Tuesday that was the hottest day or Monday? I think Monday was much hotter than Tuesday. Okay. Monday got to like 150 degrees outside or something. Yeah. The surface of the sun. Yeah. We we were coming home from a coyote versus acme. By the way, welcome, Commander Jesse Reed. How do we get in today for Dana? Howdy.

1:01And the other voice you know, recognizes Dan Weinberg. Dan Weinberg from Florida. The smooth baritone is back. The berry wide of news. They were celebrating Labor Day. They were asking on the text line, where's Dan? We need him to read us our news. No more ABC, please. Hmm. So you're back. Welcome. Welcome to ABC, dude. They just don't report the news like Dan Weinbaum reports the news. Naturally. Of course. So anyway, we come back from coyote versus acme on my early Monday afternoon, it was like 330 or something when we got home. And I mean, I was sweating in an air conditioned car. And I told Tee, I've always told Sam, I'll never complain about how hot the summer gets because he doesn't want to hear it when I complain about how cold how much I hate the winter in Kansas City. And I said, that ends today because this is too much. It is. And now what is it? What is the current temperature outside right now? Like 78 or something nice and cool.

2:01I don't know. It feels like winter time right now and it's just normal. I had to slap on a long sleeve to walk the dog this morning. It was confusing. Yeah. It's a muggy 73. A muggy 73. I did. I burped my house this morning. It was so cool outside. You guys burp your house. Is that where you open the windows? I open all the windows. If you have an attic fan, turn on the attic. So I sat and read the paper this morning while Tee was getting ready with the back door open. It was lovely. Could hear the football team practicing. Oh, anyway, I don't want to get jipped on fall either. Like I don't, I don't want summer to overextend into the fall months and then fall ends up lasting just one month and boom, we're right in the winter. See, is that more so us as human beings fixating on the negatives than the positives? Because I have the same thing where every year I feel like we only get two weeks of good weather in the spring and we only get two weeks of good weather in the fall. I think that's real. If you go and look at the weather archives, it's actually not real.

3:02We get it for like six, eight weeks, but it feels so good that we're not paying attention to. So that time flies by and then all of a sudden it's cold and we're like, what the heck? We didn't even get a phone. Actually, if you look at the numbers, you did. Can I say I like that you're just natural, positive, mental attitude towards that too. To focus on the positive and not the negative. That's great. And it's still summertime. So yeah, technically, yeah, that's true until what the 21st of this month. That's right. It's still summer. All right, story here from Fox four. Kansas City Chiefs chairman and CEO Clark Hunt says the team's new stadium across the state line, read that wine. That county will likely not be called Arrowhead Stadium. Hunt spoke with Fox four this morning ahead of the chiefs home opener, discussing his family, read Thursday. Can somebody explain read Thursday to me later in the show? Okay, I didn't think so. And once ahead for the upcoming season, but the biggest news that he shared centered on the team's new domed stadium in KCK for the first time.

4:04Hunt directly addressed what the soon to be home of the chiefs will be called. And despite its historic legacy and symbolism, he confirmed Arrowhead will likely be getting a new name, quoting here from Clark Hunt. I don't think we'll call it Arrowhead, but we wanted to make sure there were enough elements in the design that reminds every fan who is attended a game at Arrowhead about what a great stadium that is as long as it's not insert your corporation name here and then stadium at the end of it. That's all I care about here and damn teed. That's what it's going to. That's got zero personality. Do we get the pitchforks out now or do we wait until now for the Missouri side fan? Who said I will never, ever, ever attend a chiefs game in the state of Kansas. Now they're really not going to attend a chiefs game in Kansas because the stadium is not going to be called Arrowhead. And by the way, the red Thursday situation is they felt weird celebrating something on

5:08the 25th anniversary of 9-11. Oh, so it's just this Thursday. Is that not Friday? You know, I respect that. Yeah, I respect that. So you could go around to the McDonald's, whatever the bank branches, I forgive me, I forget and get your new season flags today, but they will not be doing any celebration of course because the focus is all on September 11th tomorrow. Okay. I'm just as long as it's not like how Black Friday used to be the big shopping day after Thanksgiving and now it's turned into basically Black November. Black Friday starts on the first of November now for shopping. Well, an Amazon Prime days feels like we have one every three weeks. Yeah. By the way, it's fine that you promote McDonald's. Our partners at high V are also have will also have flags throughout the day. My sincere is to Paul. That's fine. High V and get a flag. Yep. With regards to the name, are we surprised? Let me ask you this. All three of you, I'll start with you. Okay. And then we'll go, we'll go around the half minute or if seniority.

6:12Yes. Even when it opens in WINDY County, are people still going to say they're going to the game at Arrowhead? Just like, I mean, sandstone has been called a mill. I don't even know what it is right now. Azura or cricket. I don't even know anymore soon to be closed soon to be close. Soon to be closed. There goes that positive mental attitude. The only name change that has ever really stuck has been T-Mobile Center. Yeah. When it, you know, it used to be Sprint. Now it's T-Mobile and there's no geographical move for those places. No, but I mean, they tried to rename the Grandview Triangle and oh, no, no, I take that back. Kaufman Stadium caught on because it used to be just royal stadium. Oh, okay. I didn't even know that it used to just be royal stadium. Yeah, after you and Kaufman, yeah, they tried to Kaufman Stadium. It's been so long now. It's been a long time. So will people still call it Arrowhead? I mean, reflexively, I think possibly.

7:15Yeah, I mean, not if we come up with a really cool name. You have, I don't know, you see this all over. Like I found out about this, you know, fosters is the beer that they drink in Australia. It's kind of like their version of Bud Light. And it's very common in Australia. You just say, throw me a fosters and really they're just saying, give me a beer. That matter what kind it is. But that's just the slang term they use. It could be something like that. But then also, I didn't know people in Australia sounded like a tough guy. Throw me a fosters mate. Yeah, I know. I need to I need to workshop that one. It's not like my Christopher Walkin. Got guys guys. Are you going to call it? Yeah, I don't know. What would I call it that? I don't think so. I mean, Arrowhead to me is kind of gritty. And I don't think this new stadium is going to be that way. I'm sure it'll be very nice. Sam, I think if you're a naysayer, you're going to call it Arrowhead. I think if you're welcoming the new stadium, you're going to call it whatever the new stadium name is. I just hope they do it right.

8:16I have faith they'll do it right. What does that mean? Like don't name it huggies stadium. Let's try to come up with it. It's going to get involved. Diverse. Something chief affiliated. Like I don't want to go to depends stadium. Are they going to win today? For the Monday night matchup for Monday night football coming to you live from the so much stadium. I crap my. I crap my. I think it's going to be 50 50. I think I'm still going to call it Arrowhead. I am I am so past the corporate branding. And I hate the word branding. I can't believe I just said that. But that's what it is. The corporate branding of major sporting and concert venues. I think it also depends on how many people it does. I crap my pants. Yeah. Basically from what I'm understanding it's going to be hard to even as the as a normal

9:19season ticket holder to get season tickets. There's going to be so it's going to become such a corporate event now anyway. Well, we are from what I understand of what's going to happen with the ticket situation. We are named it based off of the renderings because of the roof. The Pringle. Pringle. Pringles. The Pringle. Do you see it? I think Morton Ampitheater really needs to get their arms around Saltstone and make that their own, even though it was Sam Stevie's idea, Saltstone. That's what they should call it. Morton's Saltstone. Not Morton Ampitheater. Morton's Saltstone. Do you think and you know, we can't speak to the legacy of Lamar Hunt anymore than Clark can of course, but what do you think Lamar would say about all of this? I hear both sides of the argument and we heard about it in the stadium moving conversation of Lamar wanted to bring the sport to new communities. That would be the pro stadium move side of it.

10:22The anti was that he was dead set on Kansas City and Kansas City itself. Well, but that was that was a different time as well. I can't speak for Lamar Hunt. I only met him a handful of times. But I'm sure that Clark Hunt, you know, and I don't care where they play. I don't care if they just keep playing at Arrowhead. I'm still going to cheer for him. If I can afford it, I'm still going to go see them every once in a while. But man, my couch is a great view. What is somebody says on the text line, why not call it the Lamar Hunt dome? The problem with that is there's no money in it. And we live in a time now where, I mean, my God. They're naming the field. Geha, you know, Geha field at Arrowhead Stadium from the text line. Arrowhead 2.0. I don't think we're getting that one. They could star bond stadium. They could lean into the whole Kansas thing.

11:23Oh, they're not going to do that. The sunflower bowl. No, Toto field. They're going to do everything they can possibly do locally to not remind you they're in Kansas. The dog Toto, by the way, not the band. Makes for the clarification. Yeah, I think just in case. Totally on this for Scott, totally unnecessary clarification. 913 586 777 988 Commander Jesse Reed in for Dana, right? My name is Scott Parks here on KMBC. So a couple of quick programming notes. I'm going to get a call out to Dave Helling, reporter extraordinaire to join us on the program. Hopefully sometime tomorrow. This is an S show. It's the only way to describe it. What is going on with the. And we don't talk politics, but this actually impacts every single voter in Missouri and potentially

12:30in other states as well. The US, this is from the Kansas City star. Then I'll get to our other programming reminder here in just a moment. The US Supreme Court again rejected a push to use a more Republican friendly map in the 2026 election. Read that the new map that came out earlier this year has been rejected again twice now by the US Supreme Court. Basically, they're saying, didn't we already tell you this once? What is with all this federal judge nonsense? Where it's still up in the air. There still will be continued at legal battle about this. And I can't wait to hear Dave's breakdown. The story goes on to say that leaves the Missouri Supreme Court's decision, suspending the maps and requiring the state to use the maps that were passed in 2022. But as we reported yesterday on the program, that would mean this is how screwed this screwed up. This is Jesse. That means if they're going to use the 20 and I have no problem with them throwing out

13:33the 2026 map, it is Jerry Mander. There's no other way to look at it. But Jerry Mandering has been going on since nothing new. I mean, you and I were learning about Jerry Mandering when we were kids. They said earlier, it was in my social studies textbook in seventh grade. Yeah, this is not something that just started a handful of years ago. But here's the problem as we reported yesterday. If they do use the 2022 map, you have to remember that the primaries were under the 2026 map. That's the issue is you're changing the map mid election cycle. So the democratic nominee in the fourth congressional district who would go up against Mark Alford, lives in Kansas City, Missouri, which if you use the 2022 map is now in the fifth district. The Republican nominee in the fifth district running against a manual cleaver, the incumbent now lives in Mark Alford's district again.

14:34The two nominees from their respective parties in the fourth and fifth districts in Missouri don't live in their districts under the US Supreme Court's ruling today. Yeah. So this is very confusing. And we will try to get Dave Helling on the program for tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, oh, and Alex Smith is going to do the drum honor. He's going to be the drum honorium on that. That'll be a really good response, I think. Alex Smith. Oh, yeah. The city loves him. And his story, I mean, it's just so compelling. See where are we going here? There was another programming. Oh, yes. Thank you for telling me that. Sam to the rescue. I got a note from James Loman. Okay. Earlier today, reminding us if we would be so kind as to announce that the Tobin Lawton Garden show this Saturday from six to 10 is going to be a memorial show for a lack of a better term to the great legendary Toby Tobin who died this past weekend.

15:39And so instead of, you know, telling you don't buy sweet gum trees and don't plan a Bradford pair. And here's how you can fix your dishwasher. The things that have attracted all of you to that show for decades and decades. This this Saturday is going to be exclusively calls about Toby. Okay. Now, I'm sure if you threw in a quick, you know, that's a dead grass. I'm sure they're going to answer that, but they want this show to be centered around the life, the legacy of Toby Tobin. I'm going to stop by and hang out for a while. It's it's going to be. I actually saw a photo. I can't remember which one of you or if it was just on the the station website, but I saw a picture of him sitting in this very chair that I'm lucky to sit in here as a guest today and kind of gave me goose bumps. I think it was taken recently. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. It's really cool. That he sat in this chair right here and talked on this microphone. He's spoken to that microphone for many, many years. Much better than I did, probably. No, that's not fair. That's not fair at all.

16:40Tomorrow is 9-11, the 25th anniversary. This is tough. Hub 9-11. This is always tough. Um, I was talking to my, I was picking up my youngest daughter Evelyn from volleyball last night and she was asking me a lot of questions about it. How old was that? How old were you in 2001? I was 21 years old and I was a senior at the Naval Academy, which has the crow's crow flies. Anapolis, Maryland is really very close to Washington, DC traffic usually makes it a longer drive, but as the crow flies very close and I that day was one of the most surreal days for any of us that they can remember that. But just, I just remember the campus going on lockdown. My friends roommates, dad was a three star admiral at the time and his office was in the Pentagon and was hit just happened to be in a meeting on one of the other. When his office, his office was, was his office was destroyed. So he would have been dead had he been in his office at the time. Oh my. Yeah. And I remember coming back from classes.

17:40They, they after bat or third or fourth class of the day, they just cut everyone loose and said, go back to your rooms and we're on lockdown until further notice. And I remember I got back to my room as soon as my roommate did and I just, we literally came around the corner to our room at the same time, face to face. And I just stared at him for like what seemed like an eternity is probably like 10 seconds. And I said, do we know anything? And he says, I haven't heard from him yet. He knew exactly what I was asking. And through the grace of God survived. But yeah, this is a tough day. Tomorrow's going to be even tougher. Oh, yeah, I can still remember I was getting, I was the news director at the radio station at the time. And I had just had my first shot. Well, I didn't have a shot. I just had Sarah. And I was getting Sarah ready to go to daycare, which was a lady literally like three blocks from our house. And she took care of like three kids and Sarah was one of them.

18:41And I was getting ready and I had good morning America on. And I remember the anchors, if I'm not mistaken, were Diane Sawyer and Charlie Gibson. And you know, back then, I know this is hard to believe Sam. I used to wear a suit and tie to work every day. I don't buy it. That is the truth. I need to see Pixar. It didn't happen. Okay. Did the pants have like a built-in liner? What? Mr. Camille. Don't go there. Oh, come on. But anyway, I'm getting Sarah ready, you know, getting her dressed and getting ready to put her in the car seat. And I hear, I think it was Charlie Gibson. One of the two doesn't matter. Say a plane has just struck the World Trade Center in New York. They didn't even have pictures of it yet. They were still just in the in the in the good morning America studio. And I'm like, oh, that's unfortunate. And I thought all I could think was, you know, a little some sightseer just got too close

19:42to the World Trade Center. A little problem. Plane and maybe had a health emergency or heart attack or something while piloting this little plane. And I thought this is no big deal. And then finally they got pictures from it. And it, I mean, you remember what it looked like. It was like, this is going to be bigger than, but I still kept thinking it was an accident because only one of the trade centers had been hit. Obviously, K.M.B.C. we went to ABC News and wall to wall coverage from New York on what was happening in Manhattan. And I'm driving to the the daycare lease house. I drop Sarah off and then I get back in the car and I'm coming to the radio station. And that's when I hear whoever it was say another plane has just hit the World Trade Center. That's when you know, yeah. And you know, who was it was not saying Donald's Peter Jennings. And he said, this is no longer an accident. And I just, I was like, wow.

20:45What the hell is going on? Yeah. Mass chaos. Yeah. Mass chaos for days. 913 586 777 985 8677 985 877 985 888 here on Dana Parks. Yeah. 5845 rights. I was listening to Nolan Ellen on K.M.B.C. these morning news. I had the TV on but the volume was down. I will never forget. Oh, that's true. That is one of those places or one of those times I, you don't forget the place you were. Yeah. When it happened, what was the story you were going to tell? Oh, yeah. It was just about that day. I remember and you were a senior, yeah, I was senior at the Naval Academy, you know, lesson a year from graduation, the rear, you know, the end is approaching. And everyone in my class very excited to graduate. And I'm sitting in a civil military relations class.

21:47I remember. And we were watching a documentary as part of our class. And the instructor, the professor came in and turned on the lights and turned the show off and said, hey, everybody's dismissed from class. Kind of weird and airplane has hit the World Trade Center. That okay. So we left our classroom and kind of started all wander into the main commons. Area of the academic building we're in and everyone else is getting released from class. And everyone's kind of looking at each other like what's going on? And they had little TVs in there, kind of like a waiting room, like a lobby almost. And so there's a couple hundred of us packed in there in our uniforms, Navy cadet, midshipmen uniforms just couldn't hear, you could hear a pin drop in there. All watching the TVs and it was right around that time where the second plane hit. And there was no gas per hush. They came over the car just dead silent as that second plane hit real time. We're all watching the TVs just if you'd imagine, you know, a couple hundred people in uniform just staring at a TV. And the guy next to me never met him in my life couldn't pull him out of a lineup. Just kind of says out loud.

22:48Whatever one's thinking goes, well, it looks like we're all going to war soon. And that kind of struck me right there. I said, man, I'm listening here from graduating and this looks like this might be something that defines our class and our future generation of folks about to go out there into the military. How'd that make you feel? I mean, man, there was almost no emotion for a while. I don't know how that kind of stuff affects you guys in the moment. There was no real emotion at the moment. Just kind of like this cold, detached feeling of most of what's happening, very confusing. It wasn't until I saw, and I'm sure you guys all have seen this. And it's a thing I almost can't watch anymore. But watching people jump out the building, that's when I guess the horror of the situation really affected me. And still something that I can't watch without getting emotional. And so, somebody I follow on Facebook, I can't remember who it is at the moment. But it's somebody, you know, semi well known, I guess, national figure of some capacity.

23:53But they reposted the picture of, I believe he was nicknamed Falling Man, which, but he's going head first out the window and I know exactly where you're taking. He has his hands behind his back. And there's almost this surreal comb about him complete surrender to the situation. Yeah. And, but I looked at that and I hadn't seen that picture in a long time. And I was just like, God, you know, and all these memories come rushing back about what it was really like that day, 25 years ago tomorrow. But I read some of the comments on this person's post with this picture and there were hundreds and hundreds of comments. And a number of people said this picture should never be posted again. This, this man knew what his fate was going to be and he did this because he couldn't take the pain of whatever that pain was up there any longer. And so he just threw himself out the window.

24:57And I don't know if I agree with that. I would, I'm with you on this as hard as that is to watch the emotions that you feel that you're bringing up that that I'm bringing up. You actually need to feel those. So, so we can realize how the gravity of that moment. It's the same thing as watching war movies, you know, I remember seeing Save It Private Ryan. So he's really gritty war movies that really portray things like D-Day and like the the whore of that situation. And these are really important things for us, whether it's movie or whether it's real life footage there to remind folks of the reality of those situations. I think we can continue to just kind of go about our days and just kind of forget about it in September 11th can become another day. But it not only does it honor them, but it really honors the reality of like, this actually happened. This is part of our history and it is something we need to continue to be vigilant about. I've, I wonder though at some point, people like you and I who remember 9-11 where we were, when does it not have the same emotional impact? Is it just when people

26:05are aged die off? Because think about December 7th. Yeah. All right. It's commonly known as Pearl Harbor Day. It's not a national holiday. But when December 7th rolls around, I recognize, oh, this is the day that the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. But most of the people old enough to remember December 7th, 1941 are not alive anymore. Yeah. And you know, that's why I appreciate when my daughter gets curious about this or kids that weren't alive or people that don't remember that. Don't have a memory associated with it. I ask about it because you can, you can have them look at this and go, hey, you know, this, this doesn't explain the rights and wrongs of our country and how we acted afterwards and all that and in what led to, you know, extended conflict and you can have debates about all that. That's a healthy thing to do. But at least explains in some aspect kind of where our country was at that time and why we went down that road, whether you agree with it or not. But, you know, I heard somebody speaking, this is not my own

27:09original thought, but it made me think the other day talking about what the anniversary coming up that if that had happened in today's age, you know, this September 11th happened before the iPhone, before live streaming, before... There were cell phones, but you couldn't, yeah, you couldn't record it on your phone. Yeah. Think about now how even worse that would be, how more striking that would be that now, you know, everyone's fate that was stuck in that building was sealed and in other some phone calls and some things that got out, you know, that's the last remnants of what we know happened there. Now we live in this age of live streaming where the same thing happens now. You're going to see on Facebook live on streaming platforms, people panicking and freaking out and, you know, buildings collapsing and you're watching it live and happen from the people that that it's happening to. I could even fathom what that would be. 913-586-7798. Let's go to Chris in Ropo. Hey Chris. Hello. So, I was the night supervisor at the

28:12Vanguard call center. I've told you about this before on previous phone calls there in the building that you're working in right now. Yes, we used to do this building used to be the headquarters for Vanguard, didn't it not? That's correct. It did. Anyway, so I got called in early and, you know, we kind of looked out in that it happened at such a time that all of our aircraft were in their home airports for that time of the day. So we didn't have any diversions to deal with or anything like that. The only thing that we had to deal with were people who were connecting in Kansas City, we had some red eyes that were coming in from the west, coming from the west coast and those planes were continuing on to the east coast. And, you know, so those people had to deal with hotels.

29:15And those were basically the only people that were stranded because all of our other planes were on the ground. They weren't even up in the air at the time. So we kind of looked out there. I remember, you know, the big one everybody knows about is of course, Gander, Newfoundland with all the transatlantic flights. But I do remember that it was either a great bend. I'm sorry, Garden City or Dodge City out in Southwest Kansas had a number of planes that were diverted there because the order from the FAA was you get down now. We don't care how far away your destination is you go to the nearest airport that you can, you know. So there were a lot of aircraft that were sitting at little bitty fields in the middle of nowhere until they could take off. But we spent a bunch of time because we didn't know it, not know how long it was going to be

30:18until we were going to be allowed back up in the air. And then on top of that once it happened, everybody was so afraid to fly that we had to really, really cut down the lower the cost of plane tickets. And that's what led to Vanguard going out being the first airline to go bankrupt because in 9-11, we actually seized business July of 2002. So we didn't even last a year after that because it got to the point that, you know, we weren't even making our operating cost back. Chris, thank you for the call. Yeah. And your memories. You know, it was one of the most beautiful things that came out of which sounds weird to say. But I don't know if you remember that very evening watching some folks that are still in Congress even today, both sides of the aisle standing on the steps of Capitol Hill and singing God bless America, I think. That's right. And the weird thing out of some of these tragedies is

31:21you also get to see, and you see this anytime there's really bad things that happen. I feel like you see the best of humanity as well. You see kind of an almost an idealistic idea of what you wish it was every day of people that come from different backgrounds, different thought philosophies. On the coming together, yeah, idea that you're talking about. I always think about George W. Bush standing on top of the rubble in New York with the megaphone and somebody with the megaphone and somebody screams out, we can't hear you. And he says, well, I can hear you. And soon, whoever knocked down these buildings are going to hear from all of us. I mean, that transcends politics, I think. And sides of the aisle, for sure. 913-586-7798 Commander Jesse Reed in Ferdinand Wright, Sam Stevie III. My name is Scott here on KMBC. One of their greatest

32:30we are working behind the scenes to set up a couple of interviews tomorrow to talk about the 25th anniversary. Okay. By the way, did you guys see the price of gasoline on the way in today? Did it jump again? It went up 20 cents overnight. It is now at 399. Okay. Yep. A story here from NBC News, the price of oil surged again today with Brent Crude, surpassing $107 per barrel for the first time since May, and US crude oil jumping above 100 per barrel, also its highest level since mid May. Did you do a primary driver of the move in oil prices? Of course, was President Trump's comment Wednesday night that he is not looking for a deal with Iran? The President also said that he did not expect oil prices to fall until right after the November midterm elections. Quoting here from the President, right after the election, oil prices are going to be tumbling downward. They're going to be tumbling down and we will get them down.

33:31Commodities experts warned, though, that oil prices as measured by Brent, Brent Crude, could rise to $120 a barrel or even as high as $150 per barrel if the stalemate with Iran continues to drag on. And there is a story in the Wall Street Journal today that in private conversations, members of the administration are telling the President that the war with Iran may last the rest of his presidential term. Oh, goody. Yeah. I'm serious. I didn't bring the paper. It's in the newsroom. I'll go get it in a minute. But yeah, there's a story in the Wall Street Journal today that the war with Iran may last until or past January 2029. I know that I am king skeptic about like literally everything, but specifically about this whole gas price thing, skeptic or conspiratorial. Sure. The latter, not a farmer. Her barrel in 2008 hit $150 a barrel in 2008, gas topped out at $4.11 inflation adjusted. It would have been an average of

34:36580 across the country. What how does that compare to today? I am not buying all this hog wash that it needs to be this expensive because of a conflict going on in Iran because of the world market because our reserves are at I'm not buying it. I'm also not buying the whole prices jump. So gas prices jump immediately. But when oil barrel prices go down, oh, sorry, it's going to be eight months before your gas prices go down. Markets in the short term, I don't care what you're talking about. Oil stocks, anything. They're very volatile and they're emotional. Well, Wall Street's emotional. It is. Commander, Jesse Reed filling in today for Dana, right? Just learned he'll be in tomorrow for a couple of hours as well. Yeah, don't care. Looking forward to it. Don't don't kill me text line. But it'll be the same in Scotch show from two to three and then during Festivus Friday. Okay. All right. I don't Dan Weimom. He has your news coming up in two minutes here on Dana and

35:38parks. Thanks for listening to the Dana and parks podcast on KMVZ catches online anytime on KMVZ.com or get the podcasts wherever you get your podcast. You're listening to the Dana and parks podcast on KMVZ. Just to remind everyone, there's no such thing as cool call signs. There's no ice man out there. Doesn't exist. No maverick. No maverick. Every time we meet, you ruin just a little bit more of that movie for me. I'm pretty sure I ruined this one for you a long time ago. Yeah, you did. But I was shocked when you told me years ago that call signs are really to make fun of the person that you give the call sign totally. You didn't pick your call sign anymore than I picked twins. That's right. The windshield is my seat belt. That's right. Classic. One of my best ever actually. That is pretty good. Yeah. No, and it's actually a sign of affection. The worst the call sign is in the cringier and like the more it kind of hurts you deep down inside, the more your buddies actually

36:41like you and yours was a have. And again, I cannot I've told you now personally. Yes, certainly it's not airworthy from from the book from the book, movie. I've been dumped on this show for less than telling that story. Maracco and Spain are arguing over the right to host the 2030 World Cup final with a besieged FIFA boss. Gianni in Fantino hovering backstage. FIFA has yet to officially announce which country will host the biggest match of the biggest event in soccer in four years. And even though the 2026 edition just finished with Spain with Spain winning the title this summer, Maracco and Spain officials are staking their claim on the next final. So the next World Cup is going to be in Spain, Portugal and Morocco. Now there is going to be one game in yes. Yes. The Brazil. No, it's not Brazil. It's Argentina. No, stop

37:44guessing. Yes. No, you're a guy. You're a guy. A regular. Yeah. Yes. I thought you said Paraguay. The first one of the boys is going to be in Uruguay because they won the first two World Cups in back in the 1930s. That's cool. Yeah. So they're going to play say you're a Gorgway again. Uruguay. Uruguay. Okay. I was just making sure you were doing it like a midwestern or not giving it the cultural appropriation. That's Dan who doesn't. Dan said Uruguay. Uruguay. Okay. Say it the way you would say it's right. Uruguay. Very good. Uruguay. Macon. Michael. Say right. Brazil. Say Paraguay. Paraguay. Say right. Paraguay. Okay. In Spain or Morocco really wanted that bad. I know how they could get it. Cut the check, baby. Oh, yeah. That's all they want. Just cut the check. Give Gianni the money right now before he

38:44gets thrown out of FIFA. He will take it and he will cash it and you will get anything you need. Qatar. I mean, don't even put FIFA in the pay line. Just put Gianni right in the pay line and you're good. Yeah. He'll cash. This is going to be a dumb question and show how little I know about soccer. Why is the World Cup treated like the Olympics and it's only every four years? What? If there's so much money involved in this operation, why do they not treat it like the NFL and there's a Super Bowl every year and all that? I can answer. I just question. Anybody else want to take it? It's not a singular event that happens over six. True. That is true. Yes. Yes. It's an entire giant global system. Well, there's qualifying that has to take. Right. And qualifying takes two years. Okay. And so what they're doing, like right now, if, say, for example, the US and Germany would play a match, it would be a friendly. It would have to be a friendly. And you only do that to keep your team tuned up. Okay. And working as a cohesive. And most of these people that play for their country or playing for other teams throughout the year anyway, right? So they would get together

39:47as a national team every once in a while, right? Right. But clubs, like say, for example, sporting KC, although they don't have, I don't think they have a single players on the national team at the moment. But you know, your Chelsea's or your man cities or Manchester United, whatever, they all have their whole roster is international players, you know, who play for their, their home country. Sure. And if there is a match, for example, between Germany and Spain. Okay. Even if it's a friendly, but definitely if it's a qualifier, your club has to give you time off. Okay. And so they try to build the qualifying in the summers because all European leagues play in the fall and winter and early spring. Okay. Known as the international break. Yeah. That's right. Well, the international break actually comes during the seasons. And then you play a lot with your national team during the summer, but there's an international break in the English Premier League

40:49schedule. There's a couple in fact, where your Chelsea or man city or Manchester United have to let you go play for your home country. Okay. Does that make sense? It does. No. It's very exciting. Hey, you know what? There's a lot of people like me that don't understand this. Maybe they do captivated this city all summer long and Kansas City and the others did a great job. And, but it's the qualifying that takes so much time. Okay. Otherwise, you end up with what, you know, Togo ends up in the World Cup. If you don't have qualifying, it would take forever. Does that make sense? It takes four years already. So, okay. And like with the Olympics, they have qualifying events in those four years in between as well. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Sam, explain to the good people listening to the program today. The problem that we had in putting together today's stack. The fact that basically every major news outlet, at least half of their content today,

41:56was all AI centric or driven. All of it. There was a lot of artificial intelligence stories today. As if nothing else is going on in the world. How much of it was produced by artificial intelligence? Were they written by human beings? Oh, maybe AI is writing the stories, placing them on CBS news.com and NBC news.com and WSJ.com because they're trying to get us to talk about them. I put all of my effort into finding stories that did not have to do with AI. And I do believe there are still about seven in the stack that are AI related. Yeah, we call those bounce stories because we bounce out of an hour with them. This story here from CBS News, as warnings about the capabilities of AI mount experts continue to point to the open AI hugging face hack as a wake up call. Quoting here from Marius Halbhahn, who is co-founder and CEO of Apollo Research, we will soon have even more powerful agents. And this is clear evidence

43:00that the world currently doesn't know how to build these systems safely. The hack, which became public in July, was done by a swarm of AI agents that were being tested internally by open AI. The agents, which can plan and agents basically is an AI model. It is a sentient AI model. The agents, which can plan and use tools to complete multi-step tasks, were supposed to be in an isolated environment called a sandbox disconnected from the outside world, but they busted out, created a secret message board and eventually stormed the servers at hugging face. Probably happened. They were clean in the building. The janitorial staff was in for the night and Joe, the janitor came up, was like, oh, looks like the seethornet cable got came out of the outlet. I only applaud that back in before I'm done packing it. And then it's unleash the horse. Would you like to play a game? Well, I'm going to die. I deep dove this last night and it is very concerning. It also relates directly to the data center craze. This whole AI agent theory, I had heard AI agent before,

44:06but I had never really looked into it. And I just kind of dismissed it as okay, whatever. It's just these super tech nerds playing games with their new toy. No, the deep diving I did last night is from a number of different nonprofits that are now anti-AI. And all of them are led by former executives or former high-level researchers that worked for these AI companies. So an AI agent, as I mentioned already, is effectively just a think of it as a person. You hire a person to do a task. Like the matrix. When I hear agent, that's what I think of a guy in a black suit that's computer generated. Yeah, take that and take out the guy in the black suit. And you just have an entity that is performing a task based on what it has been trained to do. The really scary part is that in sci-fi, we often see depictions of AI through taking over medial jobs like, you know, you're going to pull up to the fast food window and it's going to be some AI agent taking your order. What's really scary about what we're doing right now and why they're building so many data centers so rapidly

45:10is they are training these AI agents to govern themselves. So the goal for an AI researcher, a human AI researcher, the goal for the human AI company is not to find ways to use AI to replace other jobs. They're finding ways to use AI to replace themselves. So one of the first steps of that was teaching AI how to code. So now AI can manipulate itself. The agent itself can take its restrictions that you have given it, go in and alter its own code, break out of its sandbox as they described it in the hugging face incident and just go do whatever it wants to. Like, I don't know, hack another AI company. Yes, that part. Yes, Professor, let me give out the number here. Professor conspiracy. That's not conspiracy. It's not conspiracy. I know. I'm with Sam on this. I'm just making fun of him. He's spot on. Let me give out the number and then I have a question I want you to mull over during the break. Okay. And then make, I don't want to put you on the spot.

46:10Maybe you know the answer or maybe you can find the answer for us by using AI on your computer. I'd love to plug it into a chat. The phone number is nine nine one three five eight six seven seven seven nine eight five eight six seven five eight six seven seven nine eight my gosh my brain's going to mile a minute. He said, I'm here is the question I want answered on the other side. AI agents are able to teach themselves things, teach other AI agents things. Why are they always so devious? Why is it that their goal is to take over and hack into another system even when they're told not to and when they do they set up their own private message boards and continue the hack. That is exactly what I was deep diving last night and I'll tell you why. Okay, I can't wait. That's called a cliffhanger out there.

47:11No, no, no, Sam, it's not the end of the world. I mean, not yet. Yeah, yeah. I mean, technically when the robots were like walking on the skulls of, you know, victims from the nuclear fallout and in terminator, the world hadn't technically ended yet. The world was still there. There was still a fighting force. You're right. You're right. But we were all vaporized and just bones laying around that they could walk on. So Scott, to your previous question prior to the break, let me ask it. Since you deep dove last night, I would love to watch you just deep. No, I have watched never mind. It's on. He watched it in real time all day long. It's like it's in somebody play call a duty with their buddies or something. Just coming off the keyboard, sparks flying. So when's Grand Theft Auto 6 coming out? It's not. Okay. Hands are going into bags of Doritos. So what I asked was if if these AI agents are supposed to just, you know, be an instrument of good, right? To help us learn more and to better communicate blah, blah, blah. How come every time they're left alone in their quote, sand box, they always become devious and

48:17try to hack into other systems, create their own secret message board so that they can, they being the AI agents can communicate with themselves without us detecting that they're doing that. And basically want to kill us. Why are they so devious? What I found out last night is you need to think of an AI agent, a new AI agent, one that they just launched today as an infant. They're going to take that infant and they're going to start teaching it things. How to walk, how to talk, how to use its muscles. In this case, of course, it's how to surf the internet and ingest data, understand it and create whatever output you're looking for. So just like we send kids to school, there are a bunch of markers that these AIs are supposed to hit. There's a grading scale. If you do your research effectively and you learn as an AI, how to do your research more quickly than the other AIs that have been given a similar task, you're going to get a higher score than the other AIs. Think about it just like a grading card, A to F. If you get your task done

49:21an X amount of time with X amount of accuracy, you'll get an A, you know, incrementally worse, you're going to get a B, C, D, F. What these AIs are doing and why they're so devious now is because they have programmed these with the human mind in mind. So cheating on tests, that's a very common thing for kids to do because they don't want to actually do the work. They just want to get the good marker. The AIs are doing the same thing. And so, program morality a little bit into it, like an ethical standard where, yeah, you know, you will not hurt a human being. They didn't. According to these former employees who have, by the way, violated their NDAs at the risk of losing millions of dollars, according to these former employees, all these researchers wanted to do was create the biggest and baddest and fastest AI. So they only put in the competitive mindset. They didn't put in the moral mindset. And when these agents are created, is there any way to kill

50:24them? No. So that's why they created the chatroom because they were getting bad markers because they weren't keeping up with the expectations of the human AI researchers. They wanted them to get the job done an X amount of time. And of course, every time they got a specific task done, they increased the requirement, just like we do in school. And so these AIs were feeling overwhelmed. They have feelings literally in the chat room. They were expressing feelings of being overwhelmed. And they were sharing tips and tricks with other AI agents on how to beat the markers. They literally recoded the grading program to give them an A without doing any of the work. Now, of course, the human AI researcher went back and reviewed it and realized, well, wait a minute, they didn't do any of the work. And they still got an A. So in the chat room, they can go back and look at this. In the chat room, the AIs then started talking about, well, they found us out. We have to find a new way. And that's what ultimately led to them hacking hugging face was they wanted

51:26to get in on a different, entirely different AI platform to try to figure out how they were beating their markers. So Sam, when you came back with R.E.M. and I said, it's not the end of the world as we know it. It's not right. I was lying. It's the end of the world in a way. We don't know it. We're all going to die. Yeah. And so part of the reason why, first of all, they didn't even know about this chat room for months. They had to go back and look through billions of messages because they don't communicate at a pace that a human does. We have to type out a response. We have to think about a response. So that takes time. AI is just respond. It's just immediate. Every millisecond, they're going back and forth with whatever conversation they're having. And the only reason that they at open AI, again, all of this is according to former employees. They could be disgruntled. It could be falsified information. I'm just accepting what I'm being told based on the people that work in the industry. The reason they found out about the chat room is because they were communicating so much that they crashed all of their servers. Can we just unplug

52:31some servers? You know what this feels like? It feels like. War games 1983. Well, it feels like with chemical warfare, virus technology. It feels like gain of function research almost where you've got this baseline sort of thing like an AI is just literally code. But it's like unlocking its own sort of extra capability. Kind of like you do with a virus. That's you know, everyone is pretty sure happened with COVID. It was through gain of function research just on a viral level. And one of these feels very much the same. One of these whistleblowers highlighted the reality of the fact that what scared him to the point of quitting, by the way, again, at risk of losing $4 million is what he was promised if he stayed on the project and said, I'm out. He just quit. He said that it's getting to the point now where they don't recognize the limits of these things that they are getting so mischievous and their ability to get around whatever parameters

53:35that the engineers put on them that they have no control. Yeah. What makes me have said about people quitting in protest is the folks that recognize this as a problem leaving the companies. Those are kind of our guardrails or our safeguards. You would think within these companies to go, hey, we've got a problem here. I would hope that if they truly are leaving in protest because they don't like what's happening that they would actually stick around and try to make it better. And one thing that this individual said, and I can't remember his name, and one of the papers that he wrote and published was what if the AIs decided rather than cheating to meet their markers that the problem was the humans that were giving them bad grades. Okay, now I'm scared. Jack in holding Jack. Hello. I am a first time caller, Scott. Oh, glad to have you, buddy. I'm 24 years old and I think we just need to get rid of all this AI data center stuff. AI needs to go to the trash. I don't think anybody, my generation has ever watched Terminator.

54:37Oh, you've never seen Terminator. No, I have. I don't think anybody else in my generation has. Obviously because you're saying you're more cultured than the rest of your generation, right? Jack. I'm saying I'm an 80 year old man in a 24 year old body. Oh, you're, you're Sam Stevie, basically. Yeah, yeah, with higher testosterone levels. Okay. Sam Stevie is literally 55 going on 65, but he's only 29. I agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. All right, man. Hey, appreciate the call. Thank you for listening. Really do appreciate it. Terminator, some of those movies, some of the best movies ever. I mean, really Terminator 2, the story was incredible. Yeah. Keep in mind, I think the original Terminator came out in 1984. Okay. If I'm not mistaken, only one year after war games, that was the Matthew Broderick movie. Would you like to play a game? 913-586. No, I would not. 586-7798 here on Danyne Parks.

55:46So I was just doom scrolling literally through Facebook during the break. And I stumbled upon a meme from Wink Starrot from Kansas City's morning news. Sure. Every day here on KMZ. And it just the picture is of a very beautiful blonde woman, young blonde woman sitting at a bar with a big smile on her face and she's holding a mixed drink in her right hand. And her right arm is up on the bar. But here's the words that accompany this meme with this beautiful young blonde woman in it. In the near future, AI is going to tell a woman that she is wrong and to calm down. And that my friends will be the end of AI. I wish. I wish. I didn't mention early on how this applies to the data center craze. I want to pay that off real quick. This was not specifically mentioned in any of the research that I did last night. But what I did find out really explains why there is such a craze to build as many data centers

56:51as they can. These AI agents, it's not just a hundred of them that they have competing to meet these markers. It's thousands. And these companies would like to increase that number to millions if not billions so that they can improve that much more quickly because the more students you have competing to meet the same goal, the more competitive nature there is, the quicker that they will hit those markers. How do you house, I guess, or how do you have that many AI agents running at one time? You need a whole lot of server space. If you think that those AI data centers are for us because we need more cloud storage, yeah, okay. Well, I guess it's good news that the AI agents are capitalists and not communist. Okay. Mike in Sedalia, Mike, hello. Hey, how are you guys doing? We're doing fine today. Yeah, well, tomorrow never gets here because when the sun comes up, it's today. Okay, go ahead, man. There was a movie back in the mid 70s. It was called Colossus

57:59the Forbidden Project. And what it was, men built a super computer and they built it too smart because every time they tried to turn it off or kill it or put a virus in it, it started killing off people that had control over that. And it goes through where people ring a doorbell. It overcharged it would like to just be and killed them. And the end of the movie, they, the computer built a human baby and put all this information into this baby. And then it allowed the humans to kill the computer because it was no longer viable with this supercharged baby. You may be one of the only people that ever saw the movie Colossus. I just looked it up. It had a box office back in the 70s of $300,000. They just didn't pick the right, whoever they

59:05cast for the baby wasn't the right person. It did not do well at the movies. From the text line, were these chat rooms like a bunch of ones and zeros talking in AI code? No, believe it or not, they were talking in like pigeon English. If you've ever heard of what a pigeon language is, it's, it's pretty much take a very fluffy, decorative language and remove all the fluff. So instead of saying, I went out to the blue car to get in, you say, I went car in. That's how it spoke. That first sentence was very flowery that you said. Yeah, thanks. This is poetry. Heather in Olay for hi, Heather. Yeah. So it basically reminds me of the movie Gremlins with how they were nice and then they got water on them. But your screener had made a comment when he was explaining this that they aren't top morals or anything like that. But then he said that they were in these

1:00:07chat rooms expressing emotions that they didn't reach their markers. If they're taught emotions, why can't they be taught the morals and values? Because it would probably make them not do the things as quickly as they are doing it now because it involves cheating. And so, obviously cheating is immoral. And you would have to tell the AI agents and listen, I'm a 55-year-old guy who barely knows how to send a picture on my phone. But my thinking is if you if you give it morality, you sort of siphon off some of its ability to get faster, better and faster. Does that make sense? Yeah. Same to night and nail that? Yeah. The emotion side of it actually learned from its research. So the data set, we sit down in a classroom and we're handed a history book and we're going to be studying the War of 1812.

1:01:11Right? So the information about the War of 1812 is our data set to be studying. For these AI agents, the data set is everything on the internet. That includes blogs. Blogs have emotion in them. So while these agents were not taught emotion, they weren't taught feeling, they weren't taught morality. They get access to it because they're looking at every single data point available on the internet. So I was just thinking this a minute ago. Then I'm going to let me read the Kyron on CNN right now before it goes away. And Thropic, which is one of the AI companies, and Thropic says it blocked AI's ability to to bio weapons. Why do they even have to? Yeah. The fact that they blocked its access to bio weapons tells you what we really need to be afraid of. Well, did they? I don't know, but here's what I mean, they can say they did all day long. Sure. I'll tell you this. This has become in the last 24 hours such a hot potato.

1:02:15Anybody running for for office right now, especially Congress or the Senate, they need to be talking about AI and their ideas or their thoughts or their want to reign it in really soon. Because this is the story on every cable news outlet. And it's, it was literally above the fold on the business section of the Wall Street Journal this morning that this and Thropic employee had quit because of the direction that it was going. This is going to be the new dominion of warfare. I mean, we created in the last decade a space force because the idea was thinking, well, warfare is going to start taking place outside the earth's atmosphere at some point. I think this is going to be a whole new dominion, if you will, of how countries grapple. I mean, I guess you could call that cyber warfare, but I mean, this seems, this, that seems like almost too infantile to refer to this as. I mean, because this has its own intelligence,

1:03:17has the name implies. I mean, but think about, I believe chat GPT was was formed in 2014, if I'm not mistaken. Is that a long mission? Let me ask Jim and I. I'll see where you're there. But where you created. But if it was, look at how fast it developed into something that is dominated, just 12 years. Is that is it correct? 2014? No, 2022. Chat GPT was created in 2022. The research lab was founded in 2015. Oh, sorry, it launched to the public in 2022. So, I'd imagine most people out here are using this, just like they use an iPhone in their daily lives. I don't know of many people that don't use AI in some form or fashion, just from everything from like, hey, give me a recipe for chicken and what I got in the fridge tonight. Tell all sorts of other deeper questions that they're asking. I do the same. I have chat GPT. I use it. I ask it all sorts of stuff. The fear becomes how much information are we giving these agents by just plugging in everything

1:04:22about us and asking all these questions, everything from, I've got a medical question about something that I have going on or whatever. Pretty soon, we're going to give them all the information they need about ourselves. Similar to what we do in social media. People are worried about privacy and all that. Well, all of us are dummies and post everything about our lives anyway. There's not any expectation of privacy. It would be, seems like extra dangers to give AI that maybe has some sort of malintentions. All the information they need to add an individual level take us out as well. But I remember my first experience with AI was just a handful of years ago when John Grayson was still working in the building and he filled in for Dana one afternoon and he was telling me about chat GPT or AI whatever. And he goes, it's not there yet, but man, this is really going to be the new cutting edge thing. And I said, we'll explain this to me because I didn't understand it at all. Now I just don't understand it back then. I didn't understand it at all. And he just had AI, I think it was chat GPT. He just typed in right an article,

1:05:28a bio about Scott Parks from KMBC. Yeah, it was chat GPT. And it pulls it off the internet. Right. And so it wrote, and I think he just said a short bio about Scott Parks, it was a page and a half. Okay. And he read it to me on the air. And I'm like, well, that's, that's true. Yes. Yes, I do have two daughters. I did go to the University of Nebraska. I did go to KU, graduate in 1994. He knew all these things about me. But it got several things wrong. It said that I wrote columns for the Kansas City star. And I think we're where AI got its wires crossed back then. And I doubt it would now is there's a reporter for the Dallas Morning news named Scott Parks. And so I think it kind of merged the Scott Parks, who is a newspaper writer in Dallas to the Scott Parks, who's a journalist at Talks Your Host in Kansas City. And that's why

1:06:29it said back then incorrectly that I wrote columns for the Kansas City star. I have never written anything for the Kansas City star. Ever. Now I have written columns for other things. Other publications, but not for the Kansas City star. Yeah, that was a trend. You know, years ago when I was listening to a podcast and reading about this as it was just becoming a household term, in Sam, you probably know the term for this. I think it's called artifacts or something like that where if it can't figure out the answer to a question or answer it sufficiently, it sort of fills on the gaps with whatever it decides it wants to. And sometimes it's a bunch of answers together. Yeah, sometimes it's somewhat accurate or sort of related. Sometimes it's pure fiction. Just just comes out of the just completely made up stuff. 913-586-7798, Commander, Jesse Reed filling in for Dana Wright, same Steve as the third. My name is Scott Parks, here on KMBC.

1:07:30So we did a little experiment during the break. Yeah, it's fun. And I didn't know you were what you were doing in the other room, Sam. So I went to open AI chat GPT and I asked it to write a bio on me. There were, there wasn't mistake filled like the one that John Grayson did three years ago or two years ago, whatever. The only thing that chat GPT got wrong is it called me a Lansing Kansas native. I did live in Lansing for two years. I did graduate from high school there, but I don't think anybody would consider me a Lansing native. I mean, based on your constant complaints about not having a sign on the way into town, I'm sure it got confused. Yeah, but are you a native of? But at the same time, an unmanaged to either one of us in this room, you were having Jim and I write bios on Jesse Reed and a bio on me. And Jesse says that what is contained in this, you said a four paragraph bio. Yep. Everything in Jesse's four paragraph bio is absolutely correct. Yes.

1:08:36Everything in my bio is absolutely correct from Gemini except it did call me a quick witted and engaging commentator. That is not self-repairing. Self-reported by the subject. That is not true. But everything else is accurate. Real, maybe a bit dim-witted. The chiron that you read and then I'll be done. I'll get off my doomsday soap box about underpressed them restricting it from bio weapons. The reason I laughed at that, they never taught these agents how to hack. So the fact that they broke out of their sandbox, which was a hacking in and of itself. The fact that they hacked hugging face, which by the way, they've looked at these researchers have looked at it. If they told humans to do that hacking, it would have taken five years. It did it in a day. So you can tell AI all you want to. Hey, stay away from the biological weapons. Okay. Sure. Let's go back to the good old-fashioned way of wiping out entire life forms with like a meteorite or something. Let's just start unplugging

1:09:40these machines all right. Next hour, rainbow and sunshine. Hey man, do that brother. Volcanoes in the earthquakes. Don't forget to our tomorrow at five. We have Festive is Friday, the airing of the grievances news with Dan Whitebaum coming your way in two minutes. I got over there as Commander Jesse Reed. He is Sam Steve III and my name is Scott Parks here on KMBZ. Thanks for listening to the Dana and Parks podcast on KMBZ catches online anytime on KMBZ.com or get the podcasts wherever you get your podcast. You're listening to the Dana and Parks podcast on KMBZ. All right. We're going to talk about sunshine and rainbows this hour. Oh, wait, I said, well, funny cat videos. We were all walking back from the water fountain down the hall, filling up our water jugs and Jesse says to me, so what are you going to talk about this hour? I said, sunshine and rainbows. Sam was in front of us and he goes, nobody wants to talk about good news. If it bleeds, it leads. I said, it's hard to fill four hours with. Oh, that's a cute puppy.

1:10:45It can be done. Nobody wants to talk about good news. So we're just going to keep talking about AI and how the end of the world is on its way. I got some good news. Chiefs game coming up, Patrick Mahomes, ready to rock and roll, baby. Oh, he's going to start. Uh-huh. That is goodness. We're going to want to Monday though. Back to the doom and gloom. That's bad news. Tennis fans are crying foul after ESPN botched a graphic featuring the Williams sisters. During ESPN's US Open Quarter Final coverage on Wednesday, the network aired a graphic showing the most major wins among American women before their 23rd birthday in the open era. That's rather obscure little sports trivia fact. It's like they're with like baseball stats. While the graphics showed that Venus Williams has the most at 107 and sister Serena has 103, it had a photo of Serena where Venus was. So there were two photos of Serena.

1:11:45I said one user on Twitter, ESPN please do better. This is unprofessional. Another said they couldn't believe what they were seeing. Then someone said, for how bad ESPN is, they should be embarrassed over this. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And there was one sympathetic provider on Reddit who wrote, graphics person was probably up late for the Shelton match and didn't get much sleep. Oh, look at them being positive. I'll be honest, I can't tell them apart. The Williams sisters twins. They are twins, are they not? I don't know. I thought Venus was older. Uh-uh. I don't think so. Oh, twins. I always assumed they were because they do look very similar. So did the graphics person. I'll tell you what, if somebody had a picture of me and my brother, where are you apart? Are you very wide? I don't even think we would look like we're even related. There are a year apart. Yeah. The Williams sisters are your apart. Who's older?

1:12:47I can tell you right. There's two years apart. Currently, Venus is 46 and Serena is 44. Yeah. Okay. According to AI, Serena is about to display my knowledge of both soccer and the Williams sisters. You're right. It's two weeks Serena will show the Girl Scouts of the USA said Tuesday, it's first cookies for dogs. We'll go on. Say a challenge. Sam's premise here of rainbows. Sam, this is a smile. Sam, this is a good news story. We're talking about cookies. Girl scout cookies for cute dogs. I mean, I don't know. I can turn it negative. It's really mixed up with the boxes. It's going to be a rough time. Did you say rough time like are you FF? That's what I say. Like rough. Get out. Are they cookies or are they biscuits? They're cookies. They blueberry muffin flavored cookies were developed with bark, a New York based seller of dog treats and toys.

1:13:50The cookies are dubbed patch pals and they will only be sold online. Okay. My dog couldn't care less about a girl scout cookie. She just wants me to throw that stupid green ball 500 times. How do you guys feel about the just in general and society where you can bring your dog into the establishment? They have things on the menu for the dog. The dog ice cream. I do love the pup cup. The pup cup. Yeah. Typically with a pup cup place, you're not able to bring your dog into the Starbucks or the dairy queen or whatever. It's just a great marketing ploy of bring your dog for a pup cup and buy a $17 pumpkin spice latte. When I lived in the Pacific Northwest, that was the thing out there. Everyone brought their dog into every restaurant establishment. It seemed a bit extreme. Why can you not leave your dog at home for a little while? Emotional support. Okay. Isn't that why you're going out to dinner with your friend? Most people don't use their dog for emotional support when they go out in public. I have to be honest with you. The number of times

1:14:54Mary Beth is like, can we go somewhere we can take Borg and I'm like, no, we're going to dinner. The dog will be fine. And I'm the jerk. Maybe you're not emotionally supportive enough. All right. I feel very accusatory. She needs a little bit extra emotional support. Like, oh my gosh. What do you see? I can only imagine what you're like. I've got a movie playing in my head of you and Mary Beth out at dinner. And you say or she says, man, do you see the neighbor's dog really cute? Nobody cares about cute puppies, honey. Yeah, that's it. No, we have good deep conversations. I deep dove AI last night. That's a year scratching. And we're all going to die. We have nothing to talk about at dinner. I love taking. What's taking was here bar places with me, but like we've taken into the patio at whatever that place is called in Mission Farms. And they're dog friendly. They were welcoming. They brought us over a bowl. They brought us a couple of treats. And I just felt like I was staring at the dog the whole time to make sure the dog is okay.

1:15:55I'm not sure it's at this point. I'm having dinner with the dog, not my girlfriend. Yeah. I just don't understand. Like, if you take your dog to pet smart, right? I totally get it. You know, it's a pet friendly store. But if you're walking through Home Depot, looking for drill bits, do you really need your dog with you? I mean, can the dog not survive for 30 minutes? There's people out there too. Some people very close to me. I won't name them. But they sort of like the dog in their life dictates their day to day life. They'll go out. They'll go places and go, we can't stay around long. We got to get back to the dogs. And I thought, what a life. Well, I think they actually, they're not using it as a reason to make a little ninja exit from the situation. I think legit, like the dog runs their lives. I would use, when Stella was alive, if I was out somewhere and I was bored, didn't feel like being there anymore. I would use hers and excuse to leave. I got to get home. I came straight from work.

1:17:00I haven't even had time to get home and feed the dog and let her out. Okay. And even that's just, hey, I didn't let the dog out or the dog's been waiting while, okay, that's understandable. But just every single thing you do, every decision you make in your day to day life, well, I can't leave the dogs at home long that long. They'll tear the place apart or they'll then get new dogs. That's how I feel. Well, and when did that change? I feel like growing up, that was not the trend or maybe I just, you know, was a kid and I wasn't out about it, out, end about enough. And is that a recent trend? I, I, I guarantee you, it wasn't around in the 70s and 80s. Oh, when I was growing up, the dog lived outside in a dog house and you'd come out a few times and play with it during the day and then go back and live your life and you weren't clamoring over how the dog was doing out there. The dog was just fine. I can count probably on one hand the number of years in my life, even as a kid, where I didn't have a dog. We had Irish centers when I was a kid. They were beautiful, beautiful dogs, but man, they will do not open the door without a leash. That

1:18:00Irish centers will run like they're auditioning for chariots of fire. And they are gone. But I don't use to be a blacksmith. It bolts for the door. Yeah, it does. Nice. I see what you did there. But I don't ever recall, you know, we would take the dog on walks. We would play with the dogs in the backyard. But I don't ever recall my mom loading Casey or Red in the car and taking them anywhere other than the vet. I mean, that's how it was in my family growing up. We would take the dog to the park. But most of the time the park was within walking distance. So we would just walk the dog to the park. And that's that's an activity. That's that's like a fun thing to do. That's not you being a slave to your dog. That's bringing you, I think, direct enjoyment. Go throw the frisbee or or I don't know. I even got it. I got it. I got it. Yeah. I got it. It's entertainment. I got an email yesterday from USA. I didn't even read it. I just read the title of the email.

1:19:05Scott, have you ever wondered why don't I have pet insurance? Just from USA. We got some to sell you. And I think myself, well, first I hit the box to the left delete. I mean, you see how expensive that's are. Yes, they can be. And I know that if something bad were to happen to Lizzie, I would have to make a very tough decision. But we had this conversation years ago when I was with Mike Shannon about what is the financial limit you would go to to save your pen. Oh, yeah. A little bit conversation. Yeah, I guess we're talking back to the doom and glue. Well, what dollar amount does make you know? Yeah. Let's go there. My dollar. Now, keep in mind, this was more than 15 years ago. I did have Stella. I had just gotten Stella. And my financial limit to save my dog, I think I pinged it between two and three thousand.

1:20:11And people lit me up. I mean, ate my lunch. I was called you would spend too much or not enough because I would not spend enough. Okay. That was not enough money to save a member of your families. Based on that information, I will not be sharing my number. What is what is you? Not higher than that. No, no, no, no, no. So I strictly relate to the age of the animal. And I still hold to that number when it comes to Lizzie at that point, you know, if it's two to three thousand, I'm probably going to tell the vet. Here we go. I'm like, donate some plasm. I'll be right back. What is your number, Sam? I don't just whisper into the microphone. Nobody's going to I don't have a set number. But I, is it less than a thousand? I don't believe in bankrupting yourself for that. If they're if it's their time to go, it's their time to go.

1:21:15Am I going to be absolutely gutted? Yes. I'm not bankrupting my. The text line agree, disagrees with you. It says it's irresponsible to not have pet insurance if you could afford it. Also from the text line, speaking of irresponsible, I've had clients spend $15,000 on their dog. And what's with these mostly men walking their cats around in stores. Oh, whoa, whoa, yeah, we got to take a quick break a different subject altogether. 913-586-7798-586-7798 Commander Jesse Reed and for Dana, Sam Stevie III. My name is Scott Parks. You're on KMBZ. Cats and strollers. Yeah, we're going to hear the story. Sam's screening a caller. Oh, you're off. Okay. What is this guys walking around with cats and baby strollers? I walk my dog every single

1:22:19morning and every single night. And at first, I didn't quite know what was going on. I saw this guy every morning pushing a stroller. It's not like a normal stroller. You know, you see a normal stroller. You're like, oh, that's a baby carrier. Yeah. Strat to some wheels. They're pushing the baby around. I got close to him the other close enough to him the other day that my dog started losing its mind. Barb was barking like crazy. Why? Because there was not a baby in that stroller. It was a cat. Was it sleeping? Was it struggling? Was it like it was sitting up at the front of the stroller. So think like a baby net type stroller where it's flat and has the sides on it. Uh-huh. And then it has a netting as a top. I'm going to throw it. So like if you, you know, your baby's out at the park and you want to keep flies away from it kind of a bassinet, it was right at the front looking out. But the cat wants you to go away and leave it home alone. You know the craziest thing about it? Another day I saw him back at his house. That was pretty

1:23:21crazy on its own. But and go on and he was in the front yard and the stroller was in the driveway unzipped and the cat was just roaming around the front yard. If it's an outdoor cat, why are you putting it in a stroller? I love saucy Sam. I'm so confused by this man. And I want to ask him like are all the wires meeting upstairs or so? I don't know. Like what's going on? Someone very close to me claims you can train a cat like a dog like train it to walk on a leash. No, it's very true. It's true. Sam says it's true. It's not my sister's dad had a cat named PJ. He passed within the last couple of years. May he rest in peace named after Peter Jennings, by the way, we got right after Peter Jennings died. And this cat was trained to sit next to its bowl and do tricks before it got its food. And when my sister's dad Joe passed away, we got the cat and we would just put food in its bowl and leave the kitchen. And we'd come back in and there's PJ sitting next

1:24:23to his bowl. All the food still in his bowl. And we're like PJ dude, eat. He didn't do his tricks. What were the tricks? You know, sit lay down, big hands, push toilet. But could you put a leash on a cat and go for a walk? And it would just prance around and sniff things like a dogwood. I know people keep up with cats who do that. Yeah. Okay. I do remember that was it meet the family where they trained the family cat that Robert De Niro been a flight movie. Yes. Not been a flight. Been a story. Been so. Thank you. To use the bathroom like on the toilet. Yep. But he couldn't, but he couldn't flush because he didn't have an opposable fall. That's right. You can actually train a cat to go potty. Can you know, cat? I had people's great. Could you build me? David in Overland Park. Hello, David. Hey, Scott. Well, I show I have spent since the pandemic on three different dogs, $10,000, three times. Oh my. Wow. That's a new car, man. You're a better man than I am. It surgery in the abdomen of a black lab to take a tumor out. It came back. Unfortunately,

1:25:27surgery on a yellow lab bought us 18 months with him, which I would do again in a heartbeat. We had to go to Columbia for that specialized surgery because their veterinary school only does it had been nor in case he did it. And then just recently did what is equivalent to doggy ACL surgery for our Akita, which then involves 12 weeks of rehab with a dog. So it's a journey. On the first dog, and I'm sorry, you said that was a black lab, is that correct? Yes. And that dog had some sort of cancer. And you spent a lot of money. And then the cancer came back. And I believe you said the dog died after that. Is that correct? Yeah, that we did. We tried a second surgery. And then she died soon thereafter from complications of that. I'm sorry to hear that. But on a serious note, do you regret trying that because that is that is obviously very expensive. I'm not telling you anything. You don't know, David. Is there anywhere?

1:26:28No, because that black lab was the first dog that our kids picked. And so she was the most loved dog that we've ever had for them. And so to try and give her some more life with them was well worth that. Right. All right. David, have a thank you for the time and have a good afternoon. When Sean and I were first married, we weren't even married at the time. I don't think. Yeah, we were. We had two cats. And I had one from college and she had one from college that and we, you know, they hated each other, but that's fun. And her cat ended up getting a tumor in his right back leg. And we took it to a veterinary office and they said, you know, he has cancer. And we're going to have to amputate the leg or put him down. And I think Sean and I barely had two nickels to rub together at the time. And it was a thousand dollars. And this was back in the late 90s. And we said, yeah, we love this cat. Go ahead and

1:27:33we'll pay the thousand dollars and amputate his leg. And he learned quickly how to get around on just three legs. And not long after we noticed he was wheezing and coughing, the cancer that was in his leg and it has to size to his lungs. And then of course, there's no saving him. Yeah. And but it was the cancer came back so fast. And I remember thinking at the time, you know, knowing what we know now, I would have never spent that thousand dollars. Yeah. We had the same thing with our cat. My favorite pet I ever had. It was there when both the girls were born. And in 2022 or 23, we had to put him down. And I remember my oldest daughter came with me to do that. And I said, Hey, kiddo, you don't have to be here for the same thing cancer had formed quickly. Metastasized it was stroking out. He was miserable. And she came and sat with me for that. And I said, kiddo, you don't have to do this. This is going to be a hard thing to do. And she said, Hey, he's been here since I was like, I've ever been alive. I'm going to be here for his last

1:28:36moments. And as hard as that was and as much of a gut punch of a day as that was, it actually from a father parent perspective, you know, pets are kind of a useful tool for teaching kids. I think kind of the circle of life in a lot of ways. You know, people who grow up on farms see that at a very early age, but I think on our average suburban house, it can be a more difficult concept. And pets do help with that. 913-586-7798-586-7798. Gary, Tom, you guys hang tight. Get with everybody just a moment here on Dana and Parks. I have nipples, Greg. Can you milk me? We're kind of one of those movies you see the first time and you just never stop laughing. We're kind of teetering on the happy, go lucky conversation about pets and the extremely morbid conversation about how much are you willing to shell out at the vet?

1:29:39Yeah. From the text line. Oh, God. I am a former veterinarian assistant. In my opinion, the one responsibility of the owner is to give their pet a good quality of life as much as they can. Sometimes they go above and beyond and having them go through surgeries, etc. is actually more about the owner than the animal that puts the animal through a lot of suffering. And where do you stand on this, Sam? He's not saying. I agree with that veterinarian assistant. I do. I watched someone in my life. It was their dog. It was their choice. My personal opinion was that that dog for the last few years was probably not living with a high quality of life, but they wanted to keep it alive. So they paid the money to get whatever surgeries and treatment they needed to stay alive. Despite the fact that you called the dog's name and it didn't move.

1:30:43I saw, you know, you didn't move like yellow dog from that movie, funny farm. Tell me or fight out. I'll just burn in next to the fireplace. By the way, you alive, you're breathing. Sam, you mentioned the neighbor that would push the cat around. I saw something similar with the dog except the dog was getting pushed around because the dog was so old and decrepit that it could no longer walk on his or her own. And so I would go on an evening walk in this neighborhood I used to live in. I would see the neighborhood couple. We always kind of timed our walks at the same time. I would pass them and they were pushing their dog around. And then, you know, to help the dog go to the bathroom, they have to like pick the dog up and basically hold it while I went to the bathroom. Couldn't do anything on its own. And I remember just thinking to myself, like, please let that poor dog just go. Peace. That dog's not happy. Yeah. Let's go to the phones. I have nipples, Sam. Can you not make me? Gary in Kansas City. Hello, Gary. How you doing? We're doing well. Thank you, man. I have two friends that are quite extreme and as far as taking care of their animal.

1:31:47Now do one person and don't put me off the air. But I had a friend. He lived on a farm head hounds, ran over one of his hounds legs and it was all broken and weird and whatever. We went to the farm and the dog was dragging around us. So why don't you just not take him to the bed there and say, he's the one to go out the way. So he had no problem. Oh my God. Okay. Now let me go to the extreme. Okay. That wasn't extreme. That's pretty extreme. It's better. I think this is worse. I had a friend that had a cat. They got the cat. The cat was already 12, 14, 15 years old. I don't know. Oh, and they kept it for at least three or four years. And they stayed up at night feeding cat and watering the cat. None of them got a whole night sleep for years. They went to the veterinarian weekly and got infusions, water. The whole thing is keep that cat alive. And I would say they spent tens and tens of thousands

1:32:52of dollars on that cat. And my thought is that you better not spend things that need to go for your children, need to go for your own health care on somebody else or an animal. They won't pay his back. I do appreciate the call. No, they won't pay you back. Tom in Belton. Hello, Tom. Hey, when I started to say I, the purpose of my call is how cats can act like dogs. And part of I didn't tell them everything, unfortunately. And it's not going to be in gruesome surprise. But I have a Simeez cat. And when it comes to me, he doesn't listen to me. But and I've been with this cat for 14 years. I don't know if you're familiar with Simeez cats. They're aggressive, very independent, but my wife. I think she talks to the cat more than she does me because I will hear

1:33:54her in the house now. And I'm not going to name the cat's name. She'll say, now come on, I'm doing this. Now you go over here and then he comes back about 15 minutes later. You know, are you done yet? No, I'm doing this. And I hear these conversations in the house and I'm outside. The only time that cat really pays attention to me is about this time of day. When I get home from work, I'm listening to the Dana and parts. I'm smoking a cigarette, having my bed beverage. And he's Jones in, rubbing up against my legs. I give him a teaspoon of beer. Then he's happy. He's all get out. And then he doesn't listen to anybody. Now, did you not want to name your cat because he's underage drinking? Uh, actually, because well, he's just ignorant. He's named Buster. I don't know if he's ignorant. He's just the Simeez. Well, no, Scott, I'm gone 200 days out of the year. He doesn't want to come home. He doesn't get beer when

1:34:54I'm gone. Okay. My wife and then I know, you know, Tom. That's right. Why don't you just give him a drink of the smoke while you're at it too? No, my wife will not give Buster beer. No, no. She gets mad at me if she catches me giving him beer. I have to say, no, come on, Buster, at casual. You didn't get no beer. Many things he's ate for a tall and bullet, bros like human dogs. Is there a call of the day? Oh, all right. All right, Tom. Guys, be good brother. Oh my God. Just do it. I just just again, sharing a beer with my cat is one dozen, you know, sharing a cigarette. Act cat. That's the best line of the day. Kelly and Overland Park. Hello. Hi, there's no way I can compete with that at all. That was pretty awesome. I've got a happy dog death story. When my husband was a kid, they had a dog that they had a hunting dog. They had three years. The hunting dog was named Duke.

1:35:55Duke was never allowed into the kitchen. One day they noticed a growth on Duke's gum and took him to the vet and said, it's cancer. It might be fairly advanced. It looks like it's going to go fast. You know, when the time comes, come back. We'll make it easy on Duke. He's been a good dog to your family. Brought the dog home. My mother-in-law felt so bad for him. She not only let him in the kitchen. She put a blanket in the corner where the air conditioning and the heat came out. Duke lived another four years. Very happily. I'll be done. Maybe it was a plot by Duke to get access to the kitchen. It was. I don't know, but it was a, I thought it was a nice happy dog death story. Well, did the good boy get some human food from that on out? I mean, Oh, absolutely. Good. And she was so strict, much nicer to him than her kids and her grandkids. Okay. She was a little happy. All right, go ahead. She hated her kids. Love the dog.

1:36:56Last word goes to sweet barb. Hi. Hi, honey. How are you? We're doing really well, Barb. I'm trying to get through all this stuff. I gotta go through. I'm just, uh, but anyway, when you're, when, when, when, when, when your heart procedure. Well, let me tell you what happened. I went to research. I went in, checked in everything. And they started to put the stuff in my arm and she says, well, let's get the eye done going. And I looked at, I said, oh, you can't get me eye done. I'm allergic. Well, then I had to go out through that all over again, come all the way back home because they didn't read my chart saying that I'm allergic to co-dean and hard and, uh, and co-dean and the other one. And so now I got to start all over again. And you see, I'm the news. Now this is, I was gonna tell you this, anyway, um, that, um, well, now I can't think of the guy singer, but he had a step put in his brain. Oh, Billy Joe. Billy Joe. So I, that kind of gave me a, I've been nervous. God about my age and

1:37:58everything, you know what I mean? Let's get to your dog story, but they have made so many advances with, with, uh, treatments for, for heart disease, et cetera, et cetera. You're going to be just fine. Just take a deep breath and relax and you'll be just fine. Okay. Anyway, I had a, go to the tree, were lucky. And I found the minute ditch when he was six months old, happy to death. And my, I brought him home. He stayed with me for 22 years, God. I'll be darned. And I had to put him down. He got cancer in the throat. And I told him I said, you had a wonderful life. So that you don't have, there's no, you shouldn't put animals to suffering when you know that they're not going to get any better because it doesn't, it doesn't solve the problem. Well, I love you. Love you too. And keep us updated on the, on the heart situation. And like I said, just relax. Everything's going to be just fine. Okay. Thanks for asking. Okay. See you, buddy. 913-586-7798. Why are you looking at me like that, man?

1:38:59Nothing. Just, okay. Situating my mic, getting ready to read my commercial. Oh, yeah. Oh, you're good idea. 913-586-7798, Sam Stevie III, Commander Jesse Reed. My name is Scott Parks. Here on KMBC. All right. So, wallet hub is that with a Daniel report on the happiest states in America. I was like these quizzes. I just bomb on these singling out the states with optimal conditions for overall satisfaction. Now, here's what they looked at. Health, finances, work, relationships, and free time. Now, you might say, well, that's not a lot. They had 30 different key indicators on happiness alone, including depression rate, economic security, commute time, life expectancy, amount of sleep that you would get. Would you care to guess? Yes.

1:40:03Did you just say yes? I'm ready. Okay. Let's go with the top 10 happiest states, Sam. You are not included because you printed the story. I'm going to say Utah is on the list. Utah comes in at number three happiest. Okay. Montana. They're not very happy there at all. They're not. That's 30. It should be. 30th. Well, they're busy not doing stuff like this. That's why they're so happy. I would say... And I need to point out that it looks like Connecticut and Rhode Island are not... If they have numbers, they're so small they didn't include them. Okay. How about Wyoming? Wyoming. They're not very happy either. Wow. I said 43rd. 43rd. I just refused to believe that. Colorado. Not very happy. 36. Really? I'm thinking of all the health stuff. I'm thinking of the places I like to go and get outdoors. Wow. Texas. Texas is 35th. I'm going to stop you. You're doing boiling. You're doing really bad. You're doing really bad. I'm assuming Connecticut and Rhode

1:41:06Island are in the top 10. I just don't know where they are because I can't find a 10 or a 9. Hawaii is number one. Number two is New Jersey. What? Number three. What's that supposed to be? No, I'm with Jersey. I'm not buying half of this list. I mean, no way New Jersey is that. I guess when we think of New Jersey, we think of like the Tri-city or the Tri-State area. Yeah. Tony soprano. Hey, don't get in the way of my survey. It's the garden state. Yes. It's a wonderful thing. They have gardens and beaches and the boardwalks and gardens and murders. Great school districts. Obstuers. Number three is Utah, as you mentioned. Number four. Idaho. Okay. Number five is Maryland. Number six is Nebraska. Interesting. It's not for everybody. I can't find seven eight is Minnesota. How does Nebraska beat Wyoming in Montana? Nine is California. Connecticut is seven. Okay.

1:42:07Connecticut seven. We're one of the factors cost of living in here. Hawaii's economic security. By the way, if you're wondering, Kansas number 23, we're always in the middle of the pack. It's actually surprising to me. Missouri 31. Hawaii is very economically secure. You're secure and not being able to afford it. Yeah. You're just bringing me down today. Oh, I need my surfboard and my Jeep. Well, Missouri made the list. That's right. You mean the list of like 50 states? Yes. It was in the top 50. We're on the list. By the way, I didn't do the most miserable. Oh, that's gonna be more fun. Yeah. Sam's house. Today, I wonder if Mary Beth like listens to the show, she's driving around and is like, oh, I'm genius. Do you think of like roaches or like rats when you go and walks? You were telling me? Oh, yeah. There's a lot of cockroaches in the mold. Yeah. Anyway, top worst. Are there really? Oh, yeah. Tons. Okay. I'll just read off a couple of these.

1:43:12These are down below. I can't find number 50 and I'm scanning this whole map as quickly as I can. It's your usual suspects like Louisiana is 49. Is Mississippi in there? Mississippi did okay. They're 37 and that's not good, but West Virginia's 50th. How about Arizona? Arizona. They're old, but they're still alive. So they were 17. Okay. Alabama's 45 Arkansas 48. Alaska 47. You know, it's beautiful. I just don't like the eternal summer and eternal winter there. Night in day. I'm aware. Yeah. I used to live there. I didn't know that. I lived in Anchorage for three years. Can drive there. Well, Anchorage native Scott Parks. I'm not an Anchorage native. I was born there. All right. Gotta take a quick break for the news. Dan's got that coming your way. In two minutes, Commander Jesse Reed, in for dinner. Right. My name is Scott Parks. That guy over there is Sam Steady. You're on KMBZ. Thanks for listening to the Dana and Parks podcast

1:44:16on KMBZ. Catch us online anytime on KMBZ.com or get the podcasts wherever you get your podcast. You're listening to the Dana and Parks podcast on KMBZ. Store here from the New York Post, a high rolling venture capitalist as Pokemon cards would become the global currency during an apocalypse. Noting that their returns have beaten the S&P 500 by more than 3000%. Well, the S&P 500 is not going to exist if we've got the apocalypse. The Pokemon cards would technically anything like that is what the market will pay for it, right? And why are you taking logic and ruining a good story? Yeah. Never insert the truth into any story that I read. Come on, Dan. You're better than that. There's cigarettes and feminine products. That's the currency of the apocalypse. Peter Levin, the founder and managing director of Griffin Gaming Partners, which invests in gaming and sports companies is an avid trader himself with a collection

1:45:19worth a worth north of half a million cards. Okay. That's why he says it's going to be Pokemon cards because he's worth millions and Pokemon cards. Yeah. It's only worth millions of hoping his controversial statement will drive up the price. And just to save you from future ridicule, it is Pokemon, a Pokemon. What did I say? Pokemon. Okay. Well, it's me. That's so sexy. What about what about Pokemon? Poke girl. That's very sexist. Poke bowl. Pokemon. You know what? I'm actually proud of Pokemon. I'm proud of the fact that I didn't know how to pronounce it. Proud of you too. I wanted to let you know. It's like when you were reading the two-pock story last week and you said, what was it? Kef D? Yeah. I just want to make sure you're sounding hip enough to be talking about these categories. I don't know why you would say Kef D. Everybody knows it's key fee. You sound like you don't know anything about the news, Sam. From the text line, it's Pokemon. Pokemon. God roll. Hey, clothing cup about Wednesday, Helen, coming on tomorrow,

1:46:21215, 215. He's going to make sense. We're trying to. Of everything that has happened with the Missouri Congressional maps. So if you missed the news earlier today, the US Supreme Court has weighed in again for a second time now and told the state of Missouri, you have to go back to the 2022 map for your congressional districts. You cannot use that 2026 map. And what's the latest on the Secretary of State? He was found in contempt by the Missouri Supreme Court, but has remedied that by complying and going back to the 2022 June sending out instructions to local election officials around the official 2022 map. So one of the questions I'm going to have for Dave Hilling tomorrow at 215 is what now that they're going back to the 2022 map, what do we do with some of the candidates who have been elected for example? I share this in

1:47:22the two o'clock hour. The a manual cleaver is in the fifth district has been the representative from the fifth district for a very long time, but his opponent, the Republican nominee, lives in the fourth district now, but was in the fifth district after it got anyway, you get my point. His Republican opponent no longer lives in the district following this US Supreme Court decision today. Does it invalidate the results of that primary? Yeah. All I stay going to mark, conversely, conversely, the democratic nominee for the fourth district, which is where Mark Alford is the representative in Congress. And keep in mind that's the fourth district. His democratic challenger lives in Kansas City, Missouri, which is now back in the fifth district. In theory, couldn't we just put, no, that would be a really full ballot. Just put all the people that ran for the primary on the ballot itself and whatever respective district they actually live in.

1:48:25A jungle primary, but that would ensure that the manual cleavers and Mark Alford's of the world would just stay in office. That's fair. Because the rep, like for example, in the in a manual cleavers district, all the Republicans who had run would split their votes and convert the same thing in the fourth district, all the Democrats that that ran for that nomination would ensure that Mark Alford ended up, and Mark is more likely than not to win anyway, but I'm going to go squirrel back to trading cards for a second. I just heard today. Just now, thank you, Texter. Polkemon is short for pocket monster. Huh? Yeah. You know the rest of the story. Okay, that's it. So why the fancy, schmancy accento on it. Well, it's Japanese. So the actual word is okay, hang on. Yes. Pokedo gather yourself. Mansoota. Pokedo Mansoota is the actual word. Say

1:49:32like a Midwestern pocket monster. He just did. That sounded very Japanese to me. It did not. He okay. E TTO. We don't need to spell it in. It's better when you just try to pronounce it yourself. Pokedo Mansoota. Huh? Thank you, Dan. Pokedo Mansoota. We're sounding a little bit Spanish here. Okay. A clothing company based in. Yes. Thank you. It's got. Thank you. A clothing company based in South Carolina has been ordered to pay buckies $850,000 for trademark infringement. The famous gas station brand out of Texas filed the federal lawsuit against Born United, which specializes in selling clothes and merchandise bearing patriotic themes and slogans. In June 2025 due to the company's use of the famous buckies beaver mascot on their clothing. In the judges settlement order, Born United is now permanently restrained from using the beaver logo or any mark confusingly similar to the buckies beaver. Same. Can you look up if you'd be so kind

1:50:39Born United, comments spelling on both and buckies clothing and tell me if it does look like the buckie beaver. Don't anger the beaver. I'll tell you, I'm a big fan of buckies having been to to the one in Texas between Austin, San Antonio several times. But the way that they are going after these small mom and pop businesses because they have an animal mascot that doesn't even resemble the buckie beaver is starting to be a little bit annoying to me. But if this company Born United is actually using the buckie beaver, yes, it is the buckie beaver. It is literally the buckie beaver. Well, then they should lose and they should have to pay. It says it's got like a circle around it that says an American tradition and underneath that it says Born United live something. But it is the buckies beaver wearing military gear. Is it the, and I might have missed it in the store there. It's similar business models well. No, they just sell clothing and merchandise with patriotic

1:51:40themes and slogans. Oh, I got you. And so they, you know, you know what buckies is, gigantic convenience store. I'm a fan. And they're building one in KCK, which is going to be awesome. And I will go, but it's going to create its own traffic jam. It's going to have its own zip code. It's going to be like Garmin though. But if they are Born United literally stealing the buckie beaver logo or mascot, then they deserve to have to pay. We would all agree to that, right? It reminds me of the North Face and the South butt from back in the day. North Face, of course, everybody knows the outdoors brand. When I was in grade school, all the craze was the South butt. And it was literally a, I don't know if the guy worked for North Face at some point, but they launched a brand that was instead of the three mountain little, loving mountains upright. They were upside down. And instead of the North Face, it said the South butt. And they got sued for that. And I was like, why? It's clearly a mockery of the original.

1:52:47They still charged like $400. Why did you like it so much? Because it was mock hilarious. Exactly. Young in image. Because you were aware of the North Face as a brand. If the North Face didn't exist, you'd be just kind of confused like, what is this? That's true. Born United, by the way, must destroy all products bearing the beaver logo and take down any advertisements with the symbol. God, there's so many beaver jokes right now. No, there are not. Nope. Some damn. Some guys always get nervous when I walk in here. Some parents in the O'Lathe School District are pushing back against a plan that would close or could close six district schools. As soon as next year, this is from Channel 9. It comes after the O'Lathe School Board heard recommendations from a district task force on the closure of five elementary schools and Indian trails middle school, citing a decline in enrollment due to declining birth rates and a lack of a affordable housing. The district is said to vote on the recommendation in October with the

1:53:50public hearing later this month. But before the board makes its final decision, some district parents want their questions asked or answered. Bigger part. Says Terry Antis, we're not against the school board. We're not against them to not close schools. We're just asking to be a part of the conversation. This isn't just about our kids in Walnut Grove, every single O'Lathe resident who was a part of this district, whether their students and their families are connected to it or not, they just simply live here and pay taxes should be very educated on what is happening in the district. Okay. By the way, in their board meeting on September 3rd, the board explained the rationale behind the potential closures, adding that it would save the district $12 million a year. Oh, it's tough. I get it. When the neighborhood school is on the chopping block, all of a sudden everybody is a big fan of that school and they don't want to close and I totally understand. I'm about to get saucy like Sam. This is a topic that gets me fired up here.

1:54:51I'm going to go ahead. saucy like Sam. I need a t-shirt. Yeah. Just, I say, my kids go to O'Lathe and this is not anything against the teachers who are great. It's the fact that they're asked, they've, I mean, what was it? About a 400 million dollar bond they got passed this last year to go towards a district that was voted on passed. And yet we're still closing schools there and I don't know. It just seems like a little, a bit of a petulant act by the O'Lathe School District to me to do that. You guys have been talking about it in the story here of O'Lathe District asking for more money for special education and all that, right? It might have come up. Yeah. Impassing. Yeah. I mean, the reality of it is, especially if you don't have students to fill the classrooms that you're either have to take the funding from another piece of the pie or you're going to have to start closing schools or you could stop paying administrators $124,000 a year, but whatever. Thank you. Yes. Sam, I'm not going to take the bait. I know what you're trying to do. I'm not

1:55:53taking the bait. Would you like to know how many administrators there are in the room? I'm glad Sam's going to take the heat for me. Here's what I'll tell you. There are 303 school districts in 105 counties in Kansas. Here we go. There's one county in the far northwest corner. I don't even know that. I don't know the name of the county, but the county seat is St. Francis. I think the county is like a thousand people on a good day. They have two school districts. Two. Fort Leavenworth has its own school district and doesn't even have a high school. Yeah. But Fort Leavenworth has a school district all its own. Not going to take the bait. No, I'm not going to take the bait. 913-586-7798. Here on date in parks. I welcome back. I can read in for Dana Wright. She is back on Monday. Do you have

1:56:59anything else to say about this school district? I don't say I don't have anything else to say. I accept that Kansas is very top heavy on its number of districts that it doesn't need to be. Yeah. They need administrators. Well, that's what I mean. Because they need district. Every district needs administrators. Yeah. And every school needs at least five principals. They all serve very important purposes and very vital jobs to maintain school safety and security and the quality of education of our children. Not disputing any of that. I'm saying we have too many school districts in the state. A drunken or a drunk Russian plane passenger heading to a party in New York had to be held down by five people to stop her from opening a door mid-air and then bit and kicked a flight attendant who refused to serve her more booze. The chaos caused the flight from Italy to be diverted to Maine on Tuesday of this week. Just days after another Newarkbound flight was diverted when a craze passenger had to be duct taped and zipped tied

1:58:02to his seat. Christina Kedashiva. Huh? 36 was reportedly acting nutty and slurring her words as she demanded alcohol. And then filmed crew members while calling them racist when they refused. Racist against Russians. I didn't know that Russian was a race. I'm just glad you said her name in a good old fashioned Midwestern accent. Christina Kedashiva. That is correct. What kind of accent am I supposed to use? Russian. Oh, Christina. How do you see? Kedashiva. After refusing to count in their boys. Are you willing to end it? After refusing the captain's order to return to her seat. Kedashiva reached for the handle of the aircraft's rear door. That's when five flight crew members and passengers restrained her. As a pilot, can I ask you a question? The door ain't going to open. Exactly what I was going to say. Yeah, there's all sorts of things. Usually there's an electrical mechanism that disengages the door. And then also there's just the differential of pressure. If you're at about 35,000 feet, you're in less oxygen. The airplane

1:59:05is pressurized not to sea level, but the differential is going to keep all the doors. You could be the strongest person in the world. Even if you could unlock that door, you're not going to get it to open. And that's so much pressure. Pushing in on the tube or pulling out. You'll notice like airline doors, if you ever do notice this, the way they open is meant to be a plug kind of seal. And so when it closes, they push the door. They kind of finagle it. I'm not describing it very well over the radio. No, you're doing it. Essentially it's sealed so that you can't pop the door out. It has to open inward. And when there's more air pressure inside, just basic physics, it's going to press against that door. And I mean, we're talking, it would take thousands and thousands of pounds of pressure to open that door. So they're not going to open it. What you're saying is they're not going to open. That's right. That's all I wanted to get. I'm starting to think that misbehaving on an airplane is like a TikTok train that everyone's trying to get on video now. And we were talking about this earlier this week with that lunatic

2:00:05alleged lunatic. He was a lunatic. You're right. Who had to be duct tape. Did you see the pictures of this film? I did. Yes. And he was, they'd had to tie his hands together and everything. Because what did he do? Same. He was got into a two hour conversation with some rabbi. He sat down in first class next to, by the way, he is a messionic rabbi. So he does believe in Jesus. And started a conversation about religion. And apparently he was boozing up that day in the airport before getting on the plane because he allegedly only had one drink on the plane. At some point in that two hour conversation, it went from a peaceful conversation to he stood up and started yelling at the rabbi that then resulted in him choking the man. He was duct taped across his face and body almost look like they tried to mummify him with duct tape. And he proceeded to still try to attack the person sitting next to him, despite the fact that he was wrapped in duct tape and had plastic handcuffs on. And apparently he was a realtor in Scottsdale, Arizona.

2:01:06That is true. And while he sat there duct taped, he continued yelling at the top of his lungs, you have a tiny. Yeah. He made a number of homophobic and racist. Yeah. That's so he was still trying to fight despite having zero capability to do so. And it's like that. Monty Python thing where it's like, how about your ankles? They kept telling the flight attendants to duct tape as mouth and they were afraid that he would suffocate so they did not do that. Probably a smart move. Yeah. Scott, thank you for laughing at my obscure movie reference. Thank you. Boosting my you got, but here was the question we had earlier this week. This bad behavior on planes and recognizing it's a fraction of a fraction of 1% of all flights in the United States. Is this something that is new or has it always been there? We just didn't have the ability to record it and take pictures of people with duct tape or wrapped all around their body and head. And then Sam found a bunch of numbers that I guess in flight disturbances peaked in 2021.

2:02:11It was like 5,000 something in flight disturbance. It was like 5,700. Yeah. 50 and we posited that that is because of post COVID, pent up travel. Yeah. You still have to put on your mask. I'm not putting this thing on. It doesn't work. But we'll say you have to put on your mask. I'm not doing it. And then that escalates and gets out of hand. But it is steadily started to come down in years since 2021, but still higher than was pre COVID. Averaging like 1600 now. I think we've talked many times, at least when I've been able to be here in the station with you guys. We've gone down these rabbit holes of a lack of discourse and just kind of society just sort of becoming more and more course. Yeah. Like this. And you know, it always comes back to the same things we always start talking about social media and how people have kind of lost their filter because they're so used to spout enough in ways that you do online that you wouldn't do person to person. And it's almost like we're just kind of conditioning ourselves to be that way now. Does that have anything to do with it? I don't know. I mean, I'd like to, you know, I think we

2:03:14typically look at the younger generations as being the TikTok generation. But this guy, held was he? I mean, he was in his 50s. Well, this woman was in her mid 30s guy in the Scott, I sell Scottsdale guy. And that's his marketing, um, link, uh, motto. I sell crazy. Yeah. He was, he's 67. Okay. I'll tell you this. Having been in airports a lot over the years and showing up to airports at all kinds of hours late night for the red eye flight early morning for the first flight out, you see people acting in ways that they just do not act anywhere else in society. As soon as you walk on the grounds of an airport and you know, I got to do his walk past the, the breakfast restaurant at 6 a.m. in an airport that just opened up and there's already people doing shots at tequila and, you know, it's like, unless you're at a college fraternity, that's not really normal behavior. Do you think that they're, they're drink? And I've seen that too, there was a time it was probably me. But that they're drinking to calm their nerves because not I know this is going to be hard for somebody like you to believe not everybody enjoys flying.

2:04:18No, I well aware of that. People very close to me that are very scared of flying. No, because when you see some of these people in reserve the behavior, they don't look like a nervous person trying to numb their feelings. They're usually backslapping and laughing and, you know, carrying on as if they're ready to go where they're going. They're probably three tall boys deep. Yeah. 913-586-779-8, 586-779-8. Here on Dana in parks. Charlie Kirk was murdered a year ago today. Yes. Tyler Robinson's lawyers, that's Tyler Robinson's amant accused of killing Charlie Kirk when you're ago today. We'll be playing for the ultimate stakes when he goes on trial for allegedly killing Charlie Kirk as they try to keep their client from the firing squad. I forgot Utah's primary method of execution

2:05:21is a firing squad. Last week was the first time that prosecutors explicitly stated a motive for Tyler Robinson allegedly using his grandfather's hunting rifle to shoot the conservative activists in the neck. I'm not going to continue on with that. We get it. Robinson killed Kirk over what he called the victim's political expression against gay marriage, trans rights, and the LBGTQ plus agenda according prosecutors at a hearing. I don't know what else to say. It's senseless, ridiculous, politically based violence. It cannot, should not. Ever be tolerated in this country. My heart breaks for Charlie Kirk's widow and his children. Maybe I'm a rebel for saying so, but I don't think it's controversial at all to bring back the firing squad. The whole point of the death penalty is supposed to be deterrence, is it not? Yeah, I guess. I'm justice. I was going to say punishment. There's a reason

2:06:26why people fight to get off death row. It's because they're scared. Oh yeah. They're petrified of getting what they doled out. So in their mind, and I'm not against the death penalty, what Dane and I have always argued is you have to pass the Dane and Parks test. If we know, you go. But there have been, I think we would all agree, instances where either somebody was on death row and were eventually taken off death row and released because it turned out, they didn't do it. What would have happened if they had gone to the death chamber and I guarantee you some have and they were perfectly innocent. I think we have to be careful. Sure. And I'm not breaking any news there. Scott, thank you, Captain. But we have to know without none of this, you know, some jailhouse rat says that I confess to a murder and then that counts as evidence in a case.

2:07:30No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you've got to have much more than that. I think they need to bring back public shaming. You want to talk about it? Shame, shame. Now I think that would definitely like Game of Thrones style. Now are you talking about people with placards outside this? I'm dead serious. Rather than you go and you commit some mid-level crime and your punishment is going to be what? Five years behind bars and we're going to have to pay for it and in five years, you're not going to learn your lesson. You might actually learn how to be a better criminal in those five years. What we should do is bring back those wooden block things that you have to put your head and your arms in. Stockings. Yeah, that one. And then put a bucket of tomatoes out there and charge five bucks per tomato. All every penny goes to the schools. Charge five bucks per tomato minus the cost of the tomato. So what, like, I don't know, 30 cents or whatever. $4.70 per tomato goes to the schools and you get to throw that tomato at their face. They have to sit there for 24 hours with tomatoes getting hit in their face.

2:08:30You think they're ever committing that crime again? You're assuming that people feel shame as like they used to back in the day. I feel like there's a lot of shameless people in our society these days. But what if you had, all right, let's go with a minor crime that would get you safe, 40, 50 hours of community service. It's going to stay on your record. And instead, you have to stand over here on the corner of Shawnee Mission Parkway and Metcalf, or the intersection with a placard that says, I drove drunk or 24 straight hours, you got to stay in there. You get bathroom breaks. And you got to give them a little bit of time to sit down. Right. Well, no, that's the punishment. Don't do the crime. Who's going to have to enforce that now? You got to have some other guy staying out there for 24 hours to make sure. Well, three guys on eight hours. Still sounds like a not a good duty. It's cheaper than now. The prison time pooled. Sam's has a point. It's cheaper than putting them in prison or in jail. I'm not necessarily opposed to public shaming. It depends on how you would do it though.

2:09:33Yeah. You know, because now, now what happens, the first time that somebody is being publicly shamed here at the corner of Shawnee Mission Parkway and Metcalf, and they're so overcome with guilt and shame and all this. And then they just run into traffic. So they would have to be, I can't believe we're having this kind of stuff. You're going to shackle them somehow. They have to be immovable. They can't go running into traffic. We're going to take them next to a stoplight. We're going to chain them to the stoplight. Then they have to hold the sign up. I got shamed once. I spent a few years early life in Catholic school. And I had to stand up for goofing off in class and be shamed in front of the class. And I ended up just kind of goofing off more. How did the shaming, what did it look like? I had to stand. I mean, this is like first or second grade. I can barely remember this. But I had to stand in front of everyone. And then I think when the teacher wasn't looking, I started kind of like dancing or something like that goofy. And then the kids start laughing. Yeah. And then she turns around. It didn't go well for me.

2:10:37Did she wrap your knuckles? No. I might have blocked that out. I don't know. I'll tell you, the most shame I ever felt as a kid was when I, the one and only time I got swats in school. I was in fifth grade Mrs. Wilkinson's class at Ford Hood. And Texas of course allows or at least to do back then for corporal punishment. And this kid kept coming over to my desk. This was right after lunch and he was, he kept burping in my face. Just, you know, have some people can make themselves burp. Yeah. Swallow a little bit of air. I can do it, but I'm not going to do it on the air. He's being a jerk. Did you just do it? Right as you were saying the words. I'm not going to do it on the air. My kids do this too. Get any on you. So Mrs. Wilkinson just happened to be out of the classroom at the time. I think she was probably, you know, cafeteria monitor or something like that. And this kid was just standing next to me that that kept burping right in my face. I finally, I just turned and I did

2:11:41what I'm about to tell you just as Mrs. Wilkinson, Wilkerson was coming into class. I spittin his face. And she goes, parks out the hall. And I'm like, oh, dang it. And in a Texas elementary school or middle school, you knew exactly what that meant out to the hall. And she came out and she said, why I just saw you spittin Johnny's face, right? And she was, why'd you do that? And I said, because Johnny was antagon, I didn't say antagon, I don't think I knew the word, but anyway. And I told her that he kept burping in my face. So he comes out and he tells the tree, yeah, I did, you know, blah, blah, blah. And so she goes to for you, Johnny and one for you, Scott. And he, and she says grab your ankles. So we both grab our ankles. And she gives Johnny his to, so may have another. She gives Johnny his to and then comes over and gives me my one. And I had to walk into class. And I was in fifth grade. And there may have been a tear in my eye.

2:12:46And I'm walking into a class of my friends after, and they leave the door open. So that all the kids in the class can hear that you're getting a swap. Okay. So that was my next question was the shame didn't come from the actual whack itself. It was having to walk back in. And everyone was watching you like, and there are 20 kids just staring at me. He's crying. Look at him. He's crying. Yep. That was the most shame I've ever felt in my life. I felt, I felt shame a few times. I was unjustly accused of some things in middle school or whatnot. I get with a bunch of kids acting up and I got kind of roped into it. And the shame I felt was just embarrassment that I would be accused of something I didn't do and feeling bad. In general, I hope that's, I hope that's how humans natural sense of shame would develop. But little bit embarrassing, but I'll share it anyway. Oh yeah. My thumb until the first grade. And I got shamed out of it by my first grade teacher. Oh, she would call it out every time I put my shadow. A little baby Sam needed his pacifier. You have a memory from first grade. Oh yeah.

2:13:48Wow. I also remember being told or taught to write with my right hand. Put your left handed. I am. No, no teacher ever made me, oh, you went to Catholic school. I did. See in the public schools, they let you write left handed and they don't try to correct you. Hence, I've been left handed my entire life. Amen. Amen. Brian, we'll get with you in just a moment here on day. I'm the only ready here. South Korea's National Intelligence Service said it is trying to determine if North Korean leader Kim Jong-un has an older son while reaffirming its assessment that his daughter is the likely heir to the nation's leadership. The spy agency statement today was likely a response to a recent media report that South Korean intelligence authorities have determined Kim has no son with his wife. The NIS that's National Intelligence Service said that even if

2:14:52a son exists, he is not in a position to become the successor to Kim, who by the way has led North Korea's government since 2011. Okay. Kim's daughter, who's reportedly named Kim Ju-E, and around 13 is likely in line to take over leadership of North Korea from her father someday. I've heard some not-so-great things about her as well. Like she's crazy. Oh ruthless. Oh, like me? She's only 13. Just what I heard. Okay. Well, didn't he have or at least it was reported, I don't know how they would get this information, that he had an uncle or something that was very high up in the North Korean military, and they got sideways, and he had him basically killed with not a bullet, but like a missile. Oh yeah. Accelerate. Accelerate. Accelerate. Yeah. And how was the,

2:15:58it was his uncle, right? If I remember back in 2013, I don't remember that. How was the uncle killed? He was, it wasn't a bullet. I'm reading through the story. Okay. Well, you're doing that. That's fine. This story here from ABC News, Jennifer Lawrence has officially joined Instagram. The Oscar winner created her account yesterday and posted her first video on Thursday today, where she warned her already amassed 1.5 million followers. She got 1.5 million followers before posting a single thing that she would quit Instagram if anyone is quote mean to me. Lawrence's follower count then ticked up to nearly 2 million. So Lawrence says in this video, so yeah, I'm giving it a shot. And if anyone says anything negative, I will quit immediately. No questions asked. If anyone thinks something mean, I'll know, I'll know. And I'll quit. The actress doubled down in a post shared on her Instagram story on Thursday. Please

2:17:02be mindful. She wrote that any mean or aggressive comments can negatively affect the baby. It's me. I'm the baby. A couple of questions here. Yeah. First of all, what does she need this? What does she stand again by it? She's already very successful. Second of all, you're just inviting trollers to come in and do the exact thing you're asking. That's exactly what she'll be off by tomorrow. Now she will. Yeah. I mean, if the, because you just said Jesse, trolls are going to take the bait and they're going, you're ugly. She's gorgeous, but whatever. She was my crush for a long time. Really? Hunger Games, baby. Okay. Summ it down, everybody. She was. I was that. I believe you. When you say, when you say, when you say, when you say, hunger is, I was a blossoming young man. Okay. I get it. Today's birthday is Joe Perry from

2:18:02Arrowsmith is 76 and big daddy Kane is 58. On behalf of our producer today, the finest man in these United States. Sam Stevie, the third Jesse Reed. Thank you so much. We'll see you tomorrow, buddy. Yes, sir. My name is Scott Parks. God willing. We're back tomorrow to a clock. Have a great night. Be safe. Be well and be good to one another. Good night. Bye. Thanks for listening to the Dana and parks podcast on KMVZ catches online anytime on KMVZ.com or get the podcasts wherever you get your podcast.