
technologyApr 14, 202631:26failed
From SEO to Agent-Led Growth: Profound’s James Cadwallader
About this episode
James Cadwallader, co-founder and CEO of Profound, makes the case that we are living through the biggest platform shift in marketing history. The front door of the internet hasn't changed, but the visitor walking through it has. Where consumers once clicked blue links, AI agents now crawl the web on their behalf, synthesizing answers and steering purchase decisions at scale.
James explains why Gemini, ChatGPT, and Claude all recommend brands differently, why mapping AI visibility onto traditional SEO is the wrong instinct, and why the real imperative is to equip a superintelligent agent with original insight it couldn't find anywhere else. He also digs into the dead internet theory – the possibility that human browsing could largely cease within three years – how AI advertising may become the most effective form the world has ever seen, and why agent-led marketing isn't just automation of the old work, but an entirely new capability.
Hosted by Sonya Huang, Sequoia Capital
Get every episode summarized
Each time Training Data publishes, we email you a written briefing from the transcript — the topics, who appeared, and any specific claims, with the ad reads skipped.
Email me new episodesFree for 3 shows. No card needed.
Hosts & guests
No transcript yet
This episode has not been transcribed. Request it and it moves to the front of the queue.
More episodes
More from Training Data

Making Cities Awesome: Peregrine’s Nick Noone & Ben Rudolph
Training Data
Sep 1, 202652:27pending

Parallel’s Parag Agrawal: Building a New Web for AI Agents
Training Data
Aug 25, 202655:18pending

Rich Sutton and Khurram Javed: Why AI Models Stop Learning, and How to Start It...
Training Data
Aug 18, 202653:43pending

Chai Discovery's Bitter Lesson: Drug Design Is Another Scaling Problem
Training Data
Aug 4, 202647:22pending