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From Border Roots to Prison Ministry

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From border politics to prison ministry: Dale Sutherland (The Undercover Pastor) interviews Saul Ramirez, who grew up on the U.S.–Mexico border in Laredo, Texas.

Power, pressure, and integrity: Saul shares his rise from city council to mayor at 32, navigating corruption, faith awakening, and leadership under scrutiny.

A faith redefined: A Gideon Bible and a missionary’s prayer shifted his understanding of success—from good works to grace-filled calling.

National influence, lasting impact: Saul reflects on serving at HUD, advancing affordable housing and community planning beyond political cycles.

When doors close, purpose opens: After politics, Saul rebuilt in the private sector—then stepped into jail ministry, leading Spanish worship and Bible study for incarcerated men.

Hope behind locked doors: A raw conversation about surrender, repentance, forgiveness, and following Jesus when life doesn’t go as planned.


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