Flashback Friday: Yale's Hidden Secrets with Mystic Mark

0:00Alright, we're live with Mystic Mark. Mark, tell us who you are and what you do. Thanks for having me, Bennett, and I am the host of the My Family Think Some Crazy Podcast. I am fascinated particularly with history, forgotten lost history, especially and the local history of where I'm from, which is New England, up here in the northeast of the United States,

1:03and I didn't necessarily set out to research all that. It just one thing led to another, and then over time I had accumulated enough strange things to say, you know, maybe I should put some serious thought into this. And so now about four or five years since starting this podcast, I've been able to look into some of the things that at one point in time were just curiosities and nothing more. But now I've sort of put together a few ideas on based on research that I've done about New Haven in particular. Why? Because it's Connecticut's first real city. It's America's first planned city, although the Hartford area is older technically and was settled first. New Haven is really unique compared to Hartford,

2:06and that's mostly because of Yale University, which precedes the country. It was founded in 1701 and played a role in the Revolutionary War. I have a feeling that it may have played an adversarial role to a certain extent, maybe providing at the very least support for the British after the war. You see Yale's involvement in World War One and Two as a particular evidence of that, but I'm getting ahead of myself. New Haven is what we're going to be talking about today, but I also research Native American history and to better understand America and the history of this place. And there's a couple of stone structures that I've come across and been researching as well that don't exactly connect to the New Haven research, but there is a few things that they haven't,

3:10that those areas of research have in common. So yeah, happy to be here. I mean, it's such a small state that kind of everything sits on top of each other anyway. I mean, it's all kind of integrated and probably related at some, somehow at some point, right? So Well, it's a, I feel grateful in that sense because I don't know that I could love a state as much as I do love Connecticut. And maybe it would be a lot more of a challenge if I lived in a bigger state because yeah, you're right. I mean, everything is so condensed that I feel like I know the entire state pretty well. If you threw a dark map of Connecticut, there's a good chance it'll land on somewhere I've been. So yeah, yeah, it's a small state, but big heart as we like to say. For sure. Yeah. My whole family, uh, basically are grads of Yukon. Um, so my, my great

4:16grandfather was the athletic director there for like 30 years. There's a, there's a gymnasium they're named after them and everything. So I have deep roots in Connecticut plus all I love to say to it's just so expensive to try and they'll, you know, do anything. I love taking my family down. Um, I love the mystic area, all that stuff, you know, so. So at the end of the day, though, what? What is what's your gateway to this whole world of like crazy high-strangeness and all this? Like what, what was your gateway drug to that world? You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, it was the time I spent in New Haven while I was at community college. I um, was more interested in wandering around the city than I was paying attention and clap in between classes. I would just

5:16go and wander around and yeah, I just really started to take it all in and, you know, one thing after another sort of piled up and then eventually I met a gentleman named Amos who I became friends with and he taught me about Geronimo and how his skull was not only, you know, robbed from its restful place from his grave in Oklahoma but brought as a trophy to New Haven and kept in skull and bones to him. So when I found that out, I was pretty upset, you know, I think naturally, most people are kind of disturbed. Yeah, that is disturbing. Yeah, and rightly so. Um, but yeah, it's, that was one of many little things that led to me getting into this in a serious way. But back then, I was more interested in, yeah, just kind of stripping away the indoctrination

6:19of whatever was, you know, dispensed to me in public school and trying to figure everything out for myself. So I was attracted to books like The Secret History of the World by Mark Booth or The Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly Peahall. Yaki Wei, The Teachings of Don Juan by Carlos Castaneda was another big one for me. And then those books were referential enough to allow to be like a guide for other books. And then from there, I just kept reading at a, you know, at an average pace, I'm not, you know, some kind of avid Savant reader, but you pointed out how many books I have. I'm probably a Savant spend thrift when it comes to work. Yeah, I have a lot of them. And that's the fun thing about nonfiction is you're not necessarily on the hook to finish reading them, right? Because novel, you know, you sort of got to read the whole

7:25thing through with nonfiction. I like taking in what information is relative to what I'm researching at that moment in time. I do like reference books for that reason. And I've been drawn to all sorts of strange books that have kind of helped me piece apart what's really going on in New Haven. And I think the most interesting part to me has become the part that's just hiding in plain sight, right? Because we've all heard about the skull and bones, vault and the secret society and all these things they do. And some of those rumors may never be substantiated. Some of it may be true, some of it may be false. Unless I join, I don't know. But what I can prove is that there is a energetic imprint that is imbued on a person who walks through New Haven. And I know that because I

8:27enjoy it. I basked in it for a long time. I just walk around New Haven and see what stood out, see what found me. And now I think there's a sort of map that I figured out. And some connections that I've drawn symbolically and actually, as you pointed out, the laylines were what drew you to my research. So why don't, if I can, I don't know if I'm able to share my screen with the Rivers should be able to be able to. I can show you the map that I learned about from a gentleman named Peter Shampoo. I'm a big fan of his book is called The Gaia Matrix. And it is essentially a one of a kind kind of mapping of laylines around the world and then an in-depth explanation as to not only how he mapped these out, but each laylines characteristics,

9:33qualities, and why they're unique. So what we're looking at is three photos. The one on the left hand side is the one from Peter's book. And then the one that we see in the center is from Peter's website. Now, the one on the right hand side is a book, I found, or a photo I found that maps out the, yeah, the seven different Ivy League schools or eight, nine, seven. I don't know how many altogether. I think it's eight Ivy League schools. Now six out of the eight are all on this layline. Now this layline goes through major cities, Boston, New York City, Philadelphia, Atlanta, New Orleans, and even Mexico City when you draw it far enough southward, but particularly for our purposes, it goes through New Haven and Yale. And I think that is not only significant,

10:34but maybe evidence that these colleges were planned out in some sort of way, maybe not in a way like executively where one person said, okay, we're going to build all these colleges, but maybe they realize like, okay, this is a powerful line of energy that we can utilize for this purpose. So if we're going to have a school worth its salt, it has to be on a layline, right? Maybe this became a, you know, something that they had to do because it set their schools apart. And I mean, many of us, they are kind of living. So yeah, that is, that is the layline. It's an intriguing map right there. I mean, they're all intriguing, but the one with the six schools just in this nice little like I-95 corridor kind of, you know what I mean?

11:36Yeah, well, it's funny because that was the, before it was an interstate highway, that was the Boston Post Road, which is one of the world's oldest roads. Yeah, it's definitely significant. And it's a little bit of, you know, both ways because not only do the, do the laylines affect culture, but the culture affects the layline, right? So yeah, it's an intake, but yeah, this layline goes through Yale and Yale's whole campus is set on a nine square grid, which is also significant. Um, it's like a, uh, a sort of cobblistic magical square that is designed to symbolize Saturn. Yeah. And I didn't necessarily put that together right away, took me a couple years to kind of

12:41figure that out, but I had always noticed that the green, and you'll probably remember. Yeah, the green. The green has a strange pattern on the path marks. Yeah, the nine, oh, I said nine. And then isn't there a church or in the middle from what I remember? Yeah, there's three churches in the center, um, all facing the east on a temple street there. So yeah, we have these lines going through the square in this pattern that kind of looks like what you might see in an occult handbook signals or something like that. So that's always stood out to me, and that's kind of what I was trying to make sense of when I realized, oh, this nine square grid is not just a simple shape that, I mean, obviously now if you go to a big city like Calla Denver or Dallas or Los Angeles, like one of these cities that was built on the west coast or in the Midwest where they had a much

13:46much more flat ground to work with, they're all gridded out. But traditionally, towns weren't set up like that because people weren't building towns with, you know, modern transportation in mind. So this is something that, this is something that has sort of an anomalous feature because at the time when this nine square grid was plotted out, you didn't have towns really situated like that. So that's kind of what makes me think, hmm, maybe there's something more to this. And he's retained that form over the years as is expanded into a bigger city. Okay, it's crazy. I've spent so much time down there. That's looking and it's like you forget until you see it all again. And I mean, I remember, isn't there crept in the bottom of one of those churches? Yeah, yeah. So this is part of the the strange side of it is that, you know, these, the New Haven Green is pretty much a cemetery.

14:55It's like 130 people buried there, something like that? 600, I think. 600. Yeah. And they moved a lot of people to the Grove Street Cemetery in the 1800s because that was sort of like a cemetery for the well-off. Right. So anybody who was memorable or had connections to those families was exhumed and then brought to the New Cemetery. And then the old cemetery was really just kind of forgotten about the only real, yeah, way to know that that is a grave site is by going into the church and seeing that they have the tomb there. I don't know if they mentioned. I'm not sure they're not hiding it, but yeah, there are gravestones behind the center church and in fact under the ground

15:55behind all the churches, it's just one big grave site. So okay, man. All right. So Skullen bones technically originated. Well, that's where it's at in essence right now, right? So Skullen bones started in 1832 and it was very much a part of Yale's culture to be in a sort of a club like this. It wasn't like a completely new thing when it was formed. They had these groups called debating societies. So the debating society is sort of a bore out of those were born these more specialized private groups that were designed to be networking. And they just sort of study groups and ways for men to link up with each other

16:55and create long lasting relationships into the rest of their lives. And think about it at time, Yale is one of a few colleges on what is then a wild frontier, like the East Coast was fairly settled, but beyond the Appalachian mountains up until mid 19th century, I mean only the mid 19th century were they really expanding out into the West in a developed way. Before that, it was like, you know, you could band together with a couple of your friends and literally start a town, right? So networking back then took on a different emphasis. You know, you could probably make some really great business partners in college like at these times. And I think people were just taking advantage of all of the massive amount of resources that were here in this country.

17:58So yeah, it was kind of like the gold rush in that sense. And the debating societies were progressively becoming less and less interested in like what the actual college was teaching them. And it kind of helped liberalize the colleges and bring in liberal arts and different pieces of what is now, you know, Yale's total curriculum. But at the beginning, it was like all based around the Bible and a couple of platonic works or weren't there wasn't really much, you know, being taught, but they've expanded over and over and these debating societies were part of that expansion. Yada yada, the skull and bones forms at a time when they're looking to become more exclusive because there was something at that time in America called the Great Masonic Panic or the beginnings of the first third party in American politics. This was the

19:06anti Mason party and they caused these debating societies to be kind of called in the question because there were free Masonic aspects to them, which is then why skull and bones and these other groups started forming so that they can have some privacy to conduct, you know, kind of going underground. Yeah, exactly. Going underground. And, you know, the German element of skull and bones come from its founders being in Germany. They're, I think they're sophomore and junior summer between courses. They were they summer in Germany and were exposed to the Hegelian dialect, Hegelianism and the other politically radical ideas of the time that were very much alive in Germany. And we know what happened, you know, with Germany, you know, I

20:07kind of wanted sideways. It's all, well, I went sideways for sure, but I think it got manipulated that way. And Yale's very much a part of that, you know, they helped finance the Nazi party. So I wonder who many Nazis were actually educated at Yale. That's a good question. I mean, obviously, that would have had to be up into a certain year, because I'm sure, right, and your thing would not have been allowed in the United States at all. Of course, Germans in America, prior to World War I and II. So, yeah, spot on. I mean, and that was, you know, 1832 as one's column bones was founded. So this German-American relationship had, you know, at least a hundred years or more before the the World War I and II. But yeah, I haven't looked into the World War II history yet as much. I don't have it all sort of memorized, but I know

21:09that Yale was sending students to the war front during World War I as bombers. So they would go to England to get in a plane, and then they would fly bombing rounds for the British. But here's a big, they're American citizens. And at that point, America was not officially involved in the war. So, you know, it's you read things like that. You wonder, like, what's going on with these Ivy League schools? Yale, Harvard, they have so much. Something very similar happened in World War II with pilots as well. Where American pilots flew for the British, because we weren't technically in the war yet, right? Same sort of thing. Sort of like a reserves type of. Yeah, kind of like the whole flying tigers in China too. They were like a private contractors, you know, to an extent. Yeah. Well, that makes sense because Yale essentially started with money

22:15from the Dutch East Indies company. And what are they but mercenaries in many? Absolutely. In that sense. So, yeah, New Haven is a melting pot of not only, you know, these elite ideas, but a very particular strain of it that comes from Germany. And I think is partially responsible for this Marxist neo-Marxist mentality that we have now in a lot of the universities and colleges here in America. I think it starts with scullin bones and Yale and bringing these Marxist ideologies into the college setting. And you see slowly but surely after scullin bones is formed, key events that begin to break down America's sovereignty, right? Because participating in World

23:15War I and II on the sides of the British, I mean, are we going to just, I know there's there's mainstream historians who will explain, you know, why America became allies with Britain over time, right? But I think part of that is due to Yale University and Harvard and this elite management, right? Where they remember quite gave up control of America. They let us have our own country for a certain time, but after a while they kind of infiltrated and brought us back into the fold. It's kind of my suspicion. It's not a fully formed thought that I can prove, but it's a speculation that it is backed up by the evidence that I've been slowly gathering. So, so when it comes to like scullin bones specifically, because we're talking about,

24:21is there, is there like an occult type or even, not just occult, because I know there's occult stuff, obviously, right? That that influences all that stuff. But is there anything like that points towards maybe like Luciferian or like Malachi and type stuff that's got to do with or is it all kind of related? It's all related. I think that when it comes to religion, there is the exoteric and the esoteric. The elites, they will use whatever costume suits them. That is the exoteric. That's a great way to put it. That's the exoteric. It's the costumes. So, the costume of Yale is, oh, we're a Christian. Where's Judeo-Christian organization? We're here to

25:25study the great roots of Judeo-Christian Western civilization. This is kind of the notion that's implanted on you. If you just study this from a very surface level, oh, Yale is a Christian college. They studied the Bible. Then you take a walk around campus and you see all of the occult symbols and you say to yourself, okay, yeah, maybe there is something deeper here because if you just take the surface level of it, the average Christian or Jewish or Muslim person, devout person is very superstitious of anything demonic or these symbols don't take on the implication that you would think connects to education. It's more of an implication of fear, death, the negative of life, which makes sense, but I think what we're looking at here is something altogether different. Again, it's not the costume. The costume is worthless.

26:32That's all just to keep the facade going, to keep their power going. Christian, Muslim, Jewish, this is all just the facade that they're using to practice the real religion, which involves symbols like malach and ball and all these other things that we've been superstitiously taught to think of as representing evil. The whole thing is evil. The whole idea that one authority has control over you is evil. That's what these institutions represent on a very simple level, but they have to code it in these ideas of making a person smarter or raising society or just trying to understand the truth or just being good Christians and studying the Bible. They hide it in these other things, these distractions, but the truth is there's an

27:32esoteric and there's an exoteric. The esoteric is designed that way to keep a certain group of people in power. The only thing that separates them from anyone else is the knowledge. Exclusivity is inherently theft of your right to know these things too. They're being exclusive about the ancient religions or the ancient ways of understanding the world because they want the privilege of having that power themselves. They've obscured it to the rest of us. They've created dogma to keep people busy, to keep people pacified so that they can continue to amass wealth and really break the rules of nature. They need our consent to do that. I don't necessarily get caught up in oh, it's malloc, oh, it's Satan, oh, it's Lucifer, all of that is the same to me. Those are all

28:34just symbols within this esoteric world and the only difference between somebody knows about it or someone who doesn't is just that. It's whether they know about it or not and there's been a struggle throughout history to keep that knowledge within a certain, the hands of certain people. That's exactly what colleges are designed to do. Aside from create a working class that can fill in the needs of the elite who want to use the rest of us to achieve their goals, which again is an evil thing to do, to exert authority over others for your own goals. If it's not benefiting those people, that's an evil thing to do. Again, they have to manage the consent of this because if we all understood this plainly, we'd say, no, stop, you can't do that. It's been hundreds and hundreds of years of them moving pieces on the chessboard to get to

29:38a point where they have a slave state and then the ruling elite. I think that's what's implied with Plato's work where he talks about Atlantis being ruled by sorcerer kings. These are the types of concepts that the elites love. They would love to have a society of all mighty, all technologically powerful humans that the rest of us worship. It's what we see in the ancient world, whether those gods were entities of another world or entities of another planet or of a higher spiritual dimension. I don't know. I like to optimistically say that those were beings of a higher dimension that were here to educate us or transmute whatever our former state was to where we are now. But it's very difficult to say because we have a society now that seems

30:47to be, again, working to exert authority over the rest of us rather than working to embedder the lives of the rest of our, or embedder their own lives and in turn the rest of us. I mean, I think that's what everyone should be striving for. That's just not what's happening with Yale Harvard and these other Ivy League institutions, the highest level of academia. They're not achieving the things that are helping the rest of us. They're helping companies like BlackRock and these great, huge proprietors of death. I mean, really, like Lockheed and Martin and the various companies that build engines and all the other parts that go into these very expensive machines that kill other people, right? I think there's a purpose to defending ourselves, but yeah, I don't know. It doesn't seem like these elites have any loyalty to the rest of us.

31:48So it's kind of concerning to see the military be built up to this extent. And Yale is very much a part of that. I mean, the helicopter, the revolver, the gasoline engine, submarine, I mean, these are all Connecticut. And with money tied to Yale. Yeah, true story. I mean, people don't realize Sikorski's right there. Colt is right there. Yeah, they ride them with all of it. It's all right. Yeah, and you can't blame Yale as a single entity, but New Haven and Yale exist within this cultural bubble that is creating these things, right? So anyone who's living in this area is influenced by this precedent that's being set by Yale and New Haven. And how is that set through

32:49architecture? Yeah. So explain some of that. What else is going on in New Haven? I mean, some of the, I mean, besides literally, there's dead bodies all over New Haven. I mean, literally, like in places that because either they built on top of cemeteries or whatever, it's wacky. But regardless of that type of energy, how are the things like architecture, manipulating and or setting up things to influence people in the sud? Well, what we're looking at when we look at that nine square grid, it's not only pulling in the energies of Saturn through its form. It's a vessel designed to hold the energies of Saturn. If people can kind of wrap their heads around that almost like, you know, you wouldn't

33:54design a bicycle with a dog in mind. You design a bicycle with a human in mind, because a human is going to ride a bicycle, right? So it's kind of, I don't know, not the best in all of but kind of how we're still here. We're creating the seat through which Saturn will sit and exert its influence, right? So each of the classical planets have an influence that we can, we can sort of imbue the influence or represent it symbolically in order to channel it into the atmosphere, into the zone that we're experiencing our lives through. And with New Haven, again, that nine square grid, it's oriented on, I think, it's about 32 degrees off from north south, possibly a hint to free mercenary. It's also a very biblical setting, okay? I got a

34:58find the photo on my computer here to show you, but there's a really interesting drawing of New Haven from around the time when it was founded. And they place it in this very biblical kind of setting. I'll show you right here. I just found it. You have the two mountains east rock and west rock on either side of the city and corresponding to rivers on either side, the mill river and the Quinnipiac. And it's a mill river, it might be, yeah, mill river and Quinnipiac, there might be another river called the Salty Marsh River or something like that. Something like that, right? Yeah, the one that goes near west side, actually, or Westville, near the Yale Bowl. So, yeah, here is our sort of drawing of what New Haven looked like back then. I mean, totally different from what it looks like now. We're going to go up to the nine square grid and connected to the

35:59Quinnipiac river right there. And yeah, whenever you have water flowing in proximity to a city, it's going to imbue that energy and magnify it, right? Absolutely. And this is a great example of this and the Venetians have impacted the world in a way that's comparable to New Haven. If you're a historian or interested in history, you could probably read a dozen books on Venetian history because they've been very influential. But aside from that, New Haven also has this harbor, which was kind of like not only the reason why they built it here, but it's kind of in those days, that was, I mean, it could make or break your community, right? Like there's no way around that. So, I don't know, it's sort of a strange drawing too. Like we have the Aura Boris, if you notice that, the snake

37:07eating its tail wrapped around it and these angels on either. There's a lot of imagery there. Yeah. And then we have this, we have the compass coming down from the sky, God's hand coming down from the eye with the remasonic compass. Yeah, this was definitely drawn in a time when I imagine this was probably drawn when remasins were very much a part of New Haven's culture. They still are. There's a big, free Masonic lodge in New Haven. It's one of the oldest in America. And it's had a bunch of prominent masons who've gone on to affect American history in some major ways. So, yeah, this image here, I don't know the origin of it. I should track that down, but you can see that they thought of east rock as this holy mountain. That's why they have this

38:09word right here above it. It signifies place where Moses first spoke to God through the burning bush, right? That was up on Mount Sinai. Was it the base of Mount Sinai? Yeah. Yeah. So, this was very important to the people founding New Haven with this biblical lens, you know, the Puritan planters. They thought of this as like the New Zion, right? This is a term you'll see even in New Haven. There's the New Zion church and things like that. So, yeah, I mean, it was founded by Puritans. So, period. Right. And it explains everything. And it evolves to allow for a bunch of different types of what we think of as Protestant versions of Christianity. But these Puritans that settled in New Haven were hyper Calvinists. And

39:13some of these beliefs are part of what skull and bones kind of represents in some ways. So, the hyper Calvinists believe that humans are inherently wicked and offend God that there is an elect chosen people who God chooses to save regardless of their actions. Very receivables are screwed. Yeah, it's very, very odd considering what's talked about now in modern Christianity that, you know, everybody is saved. But they actually designed the New Haven green to be 144,000 or however many, yeah, it's 144,000 people are saved. Yeah. At the end time, the the camera was called, right? What are they called? There's a name for them. But yes, 144,000. And that's how they designed the 9th square grid so that 144,000 people could stand in the green

40:19shoulder to shoulder. It's pretty crazy. That's some, it's kind of crazy, right? Wow. And you, it's a death call, you know, it's, yeah, really, in essence, it sounds very eugenic to me. Just say it. Yeah. Well, it's not just like all these are silly medieval people and, you know, we don't think like that anymore like this is, this is stamped into the fabric of the American consciousness. You know, I mean, it's part of why we had the witch trials and that energy has made its way into what it means to be from New England. Like you, you're from Connecticut, you understand the dynamic here. It's very much the haves and the have nots. You know, you can, you can be from like the bottom of the barrel, like Willemantic or Bridgeport or where in your name, no offense, anybody lives there. Oh, no, I, you know, I grew up right on the border there.

41:20So yeah, like we, we all like, you know, exactly like Milford, I grew up in Milford and it's right on the border west Haven and west right there next to New Haven and yeah, it's, you know, you have these stark disparities and inequalities, you know, you can be on one block and there are million dollar houses and homes and then you walk another block and the homes are like the lapidated and you're like, you're you're in the void, man. Yeah, that's literally how it was. Well, and that pattern was kind of built in New England and it made its way into the rest of the country. Like one of the big social experiments that was done in New Haven and you can still see the effects of it to this day was when they built I 91, which branches northwards from I 95, they decided very particularly where they were going to build it and they basically said, okay,

42:21here's the Italian neighborhood, here's the black neighborhood, here's the center of town. Let's cut the Italian and the black neighborhood into and push basically push the black neighborhood even further away from the center of town, right? And this has been done over and over again, it's, yeah, I live in Syracuse now and it was done there too, right? Now they're dismantling it, but um, well, they didn't want it to just be a definitive line. Yeah, they realized it was a massive failure in social infrastructure and created poverty and crime and yeah, it's it's not a great way to segment the society, but this was in the minds of the Puritan types who believe that they were the, you know, the elected few and now we're taught that oh no, they were just racist slave owners, you know, oh no, don't it's not about religion, it's about racism, which race

43:21is kind of a religious idea from the beginning too. Well, it's just a different type of religion, right? Like they're literally it's it's just a different way to divide. Yeah, so, you know, from the beginning, we have this death cult that believes that they're sort of like an apocalypse colony. The world's ending, Europe is screwed, we need to flee to God's paradise to start over and when the end of days comes, we'll be saved, right? This is in the minds of the people who are coming to New England. At first, they're, you know, trading with the Native Americans, working with them in a sort of agreeable way and we all know how that story rounds out and very much a part of that too. They created the first missionary school for the Native American that's called the Stockbridge Indian School. There might have been other schools before that one,

44:22but it's at least the first that I've looked into that yield connected to and they essentially indoctrinated the population of indigenous people to become Christian or to leave. Like this was their choice. You either become Christian or you die or you leave. That's it, right? And that's why nowadays in New England, I mean, anyone who has indigenous blood looks like a white person for the most. Oh, yeah. You know, there's not really a distinguishing characteristic or they look African-American as a matter of fact. And it's very interesting because one of the things that I've learned through talking to people on my podcast is that this didn't just happen up here. This happened all along the East Coast and to the point where some people who were told they were African-American actually found out through, you know, the new science of DNA testing that they're indigenous. There's this whole racial, religious element to the history

45:29of the Americas that we're just not taught about because I think in some ways the exploitation that took place, it still has to be answered for and that's why it's being covered up because, I mean, it sounds like social justice warrior nonsense, but the truth is is that, you know, there's a, I don't know, a sort of prison. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. You know, taught to think is this amazing free place. It's free for the people who are elected, but for the people who have to follow the plantation rules, you were not exactly free, right? So it's the idea that the slave, the slaves were free. I think it's really more that the free people were enslaved and made to think they were free. I don't know. No, it's a great play. I was perusing a map of New Haven earlier

46:35today and I had, so you've got the, you know, the green, the New Haven green and the patterns that the walkways create, right? Well, there's also another park that is down off Chapel Street, and the reason I know this park is because I mean, everyone talks about New Haven pizza, right? So we, and, and there's definite tribes, some people are sallys, some people, you know, are, I don't even remember the name of the other one because I never eat there. Happiest sally, I'm just kidding. But either way, there's a park right by there called Worcester square park, which really does have the same type of patterns as well. It's, you know, I mean, I guess

47:37any park could, if you look at it from above, but either way, it seems like there's this symbolism all over New Haven, right? So yeah, I think the Worcester square lines, they're definitely more, um, they're more symmetrical, which is what you'll expect. If you're just looking at your average park designed to be a park, right? You just, right, symmetrical, a symmetrical design, it makes sense. There's not necessarily an occult symbolism to it. Um, but there could be the reason why I think the New Haven greens pathways are significant is because they're asymmetrical. If they were symmetrical and they just went from corner to corner and, you know, bisected the square perfectly so that you can get from one point to the center as quickly as possible, then that would make a lot of sense. I think that's what most just, you know, pragmatically

48:40thinking designers would do. That's not what happened with New Haven. Obviously, no, because I'm looking and it's like some of them are just really, I mean, even like the, the, the stuff is offset. Right. And you, yeah, you have to account for, well, certain trees are there already that they, obviously, right? So you can't, you don't have a perfect flat space to build upon. You have to make use of what's there. And also on the green, there's a huge swampy area in the southeast corner of the New Haven green. And there's actually a fountain there now. So they've done some work to remediate the grounds that it doesn't become a swamp every summer. And I think that's why they put that fountain there. But the fountain is interesting. I actually, what's funny, Bennett is it's, it's called Bennett's fountain. Yeah, I know. And it's, it's got a lion's head on it, which I've always thought was neat. But beyond the name,

49:46Bennett's fountain, I didn't really look into that. And I wish I just really looks like an unfinished pentagram. That's right. The, the, the, it's like they got halfway done and they're like, oh, wait, that looks like a pentagram. Maybe we should shift. Well, right? Or something along those lines. So literally something along those. Right. So wasn't, well, funny. Yes, no pun intended. So when you look at the New Haven green, Temple Street is a new addition, right? That was right. Right. There was never a, initially, that was just a walkway initially. But when you take into the count that now there's two greens, there's the, you know, west and the east half of the green. The western half has what you're kind of describing is almost like an unfinished pentagram. Whereas the eastern half is what I would call an unfinished, unicursal hexagram. And that's, yeah, you're right. That's not a common pattern.

50:48The only reason I know about that pattern and its name is because Alistair Crowley used it prominently in his tarot card deck. It's like the major design, the only design that's on every card. So to me, I'm like, oh, that must be significant. Crowley was kind of like a whore in the sense that if there was anything worth anything in the occult, he wanted it, right? So he just kind of took everything like a smorgasborg and put it all together into one thing, which I mean, that's probably a rude way of putting it, but you know what I mean? He was, he was like, you know, he kind of hodgepodge things together, right? So why is that symbol significant? I think it has something to do again with that cobblistic magic. The nine square is Saturn, okay? And then the pattern you're drawing on it is what you're influencing Saturn to do. So that's your sigil, okay? So the nine

51:49squares each have their own value within, you know, yeah, old shape. So the whole shape means Saturn. Now the design within the shape itself can mean a myriad of things because you're you're basically creating a message to Saturn, right? And you can do this with a square arrangement for Jupiter. There's one for each planet, right? It's just there's it's it's all about the mathematics. So the cobbl the cobbl gets pretty complicated because it's a lot of this mathematical stuff that I don't really feel suited to explain because I don't fully understand it. Well, but that's I think what's going on to my best estimate. That's what's going on. But there's a lot to the landscape magic, you know, Feng Shui is this, you know, we think of it as an eastern art, but the British took a lot of that information when they

52:53made their inroads into China and it inspired a lot of the outdoor landscape architecture of England. So, you know, the people of Yale, these intellectual elites, they don't just stay in one place, you know, even back then in the early days of Yale, they would travel to England and travel here and there. So there was a lot of influence these alchemical landscape ideas. And I think that's really what we're going for here is there creating, they're setting the table so that they can invite in the influences that they're looking to interact with. That's the way I see the architecture of New Haven and on a large scale, you have to look at the way the streets are situated, what they're connected to on the macro scale of those ley lines we looked at. And then also the energy, the physical energy of the land

53:54itself, right? Because it's not static, it's moving over time, the plates are pushing against each other. And let's play that we're on, the New England land area that is on this really old piece of land that actually at one point in time was fused with the same pieces of land that are currently what make up the island of the British Isles. These islands were all part of that same landmass that you and I are still on. If you're in upstate New York, you're on that landmass sort of, I think, after you cross the Hudson River, it becomes a different part of it. Yeah, I think you're right, because I think what they were saying is that the eastern side of the of the Appalachian Mountains, yeah, but the Appalachians, but the Adirondack Park, right? Like Hudson Lake Champlain was basically that in Scotland were like one landmass. Yeah, and so they're in Africa as well, and what in now Spain? So this whole area was one fused

55:01piece of land. And because of that, there is a metaphysical power that you can, I think, connect with if you have your, like the game risk, if you have your pieces in the right parts of the map, you can assert power over the rest of what's kind of a quantum thing. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Like, I mean, it's the, yeah, absolutely. There's, and then there's those thin power points throughout, you know, different areas, especially in New England that coincide with places across the sea as well. And we say lay lines, but there's also parts that are even like points that are even ways, and I call them, well, over in Ireland, especially they call them thin spots, you know, and it's kind of where it's not just the like energy, but it's also where the veil is thin.

56:08So you have the, you know, whatever is on the other side, whether it's other realms or whatever, it just it's a, it's a flashpoint for kind of all this type of stuff. It's almost like a highway, right? I love that you're saying that the thin spot I've never heard that term before. So I just wrote it down, but the highway is I think what's going on with the two burial places in New Haven. So you have the green, which we talked about has dead bodies buried underneath the west side of it. And then we have the new cemetery, which is America's first planned cemetery. So it's not the first place where people were buried, obviously, but it was the first heart-like cemetery. So before this, all of the burial grounds would have been behind a church. That's it. Or next to a church. That's pretty much how cemeteries worked, even in England and Europe, you would have a road

57:09leading to the cemetery from the church. After you have your funeral, the bodies take into the cemetery. So this happened with obviously New Haven right behind and people were buried done. Once they built the new cemetery, what happens there is there's a road that's created for the passage of the dead, okay? So at the funeral, the spirit is thought to actually leave the body and then use this road to eventually make its way to its resting place. It's wherever it's tomb, it's its headstone is, right? So whatever's in between the green and the new cemetery, because remember the green has the churches on it, is this road. Now with Yale, they actually had a church on campus as well and it's on the same road that the new cemetery is on. So what else

58:15is on that road? Well, we have the art museum, we have skull and bones as tomb, we have major center piece of Yale University, Harkness Tower, we have the Sterling Memorial Library, the Sterling Law School, I think it's called, we have the Bynarchy Rare Book and Manuscript Library, and then we have book and snakes, tomb, and then finally the garden of the dead or the group cemetery. So they're all on this one street and to me that is significant. This is like for sure. The occult spine of Yale, you have the book and snake tomb and skull and bones tomb, literally I think exactly two blocks away from each other. One is on the west side of the street, the other is on the east side of the street, and the art museum of course has all of these amazing things

59:19from all over the world. And in my opinion, things that are significant to the esoteric culture of Yale. So Mithraism and Nostocids are highlighted, and this is kind of England's Hodgepodge, you know, it's very France's bacon. I mean isn't it? It's a Mithra, the somehow related Saturn as well. Yeah, I think Mithra is, well there's a couple characters in Mithra, Mithraism, but Mithra himself, I believe, is the God that kills the bull or has something to do with the bull and considered like the dying sun. Now, esoterically speaking, Saturn would be the dying sun or the dead sun because it supposedly at one point in ancient history was

1:00:19itself a sun that has now reached, you know, the point in a star's lifespan where they are reduced, you know, tremendously and bright. So it's like, you know, our sun, where we now call our sun, will eventually look like something like Saturn, a gashous planet. So in that sense, Saturn could have been our previous sun and that's why they're worshipping it because they're acknowledging that humanity is so old that we remember the previous sun, right? And this is again that esoteric religion, that esoteric culture that is satanic that does want to control others, exert authority on others, play by their rules. And while we get so deep in, yeah, it cool. Well, and that I'm in no way like it's speaking about this in a concise way because for me, like, there's so many points of

1:01:21information. Yeah, it's so difficult. Unless I sat down and said, like, all right, I'm going to give a presentation. I'm going to start here there. Like it is, it's a lot to throw at somebody and because you know new even as well as someone who's lived there since you've lived there, like, it is kind of a treat for me to explain all this to you. So I apologize for no, no, no, no, no, no, it's great. No, it's great. Um, and it's just I like opening I like digging little holes. Um, I did uh, nothing desk what the other day and top brought up the thing. He's like, I don't dig rabbit holes. I don't dig holes. I just dig, I dig holes deep enough so people can twist their ankles in them. And that's, uh, that's what I like to do. And that's what you're doing. And frankly, it's awesome. It just kind of opens, it cracks open the door enough that people should do their own research, which is kind of what this whole podcast is about. Hence the name broadcasting seeds. I'm not,

1:02:26I'm not trying to, you know, I'm just tossing them out there, man, you know, literally. So what this landscape, landscape, alchemy, land, metaphysics, like it's going on everywhere, you know, geo, what do we call it? Geomancy geo. Yeah. Geomancy specifically is that Saturn pattern that I first divination. Yeah. So they're, they're in a way. Well, I think divination, there's a, there's a few different ways to understand divination. So in one sense, divination is kind of like fortune telling. I think that's what most people think of when they think of divination. Like I'm going to do a thing to understand the future. Yes, that is divination. That's practical divination. But the other side of divination is like, I know that Saturn does this. So in order to

1:03:27a piece Saturn to, to have that outcome, I'm going to do this, right? So you, you want Saturn to have this influence that you can't, you can't do that yourself. But what you can do is you can create a situation where Saturn will do that for you, right? So that is kind of the idea here is that these planetary energies have tremendous influence over our lives. And they work in a cyclical way as our seasons do. And at certain points in the year, their energy is stronger. So if you have the right circumstances for maybe like this recipe to occur in just such a way that the influence is not only shown, but then captured, right? So you have the light and it hits the photograph. And then you have the photograph, right? You don't have to keep the photograph in the light. The chemicals have been exposed to the light. They have the image and you have your, you know,

1:04:32what your, your intended outcome was. So I think of it in that way. So the architecture itself is like those chemicals on the photo pan. And as the light hits them, they express and they retain that energy, right? And, and with these buildings, well, how do they do that? They use certain materials, stones and things like that. And I think, you know, getting into like the larger implications of this, that also might help us understand why, for the most part, humans as a majority have been, at least in America, we've been pushed into these cheaper and cheaper versions of what a home is. And, you know, there's capital, capitalistic drives behind that, canonical forces behind that. But I think there's also this subtle energy degradation that's taking place because they know if you don't live in a energetically healthy environment,

1:05:36then you're more manipulatable, you're more controllable, you're more docile, you're left-powerful, less able to, to create wealth and stand in their way. And that shows the unique stuff, food, water, everything. Exactly. It starts with those, what is it? Maslow's hierarchy of needs. What are our basic needs? We need water. We need air. We need food and we need shelter. So, you know, architecture is just that. You know, we tend to think of it as a visual display of wealth or a purely aesthetic approach to something, but it's not. You know, the, the, the containers through which we live our lives are very important. And I hope that the reason why Yale and Harvard and these other colleges particularly Yale, though, because I really, I can't just lump Harvard in. Harvard's different. They do have a lot of influence in their

1:06:38older, but Yale is very different. They're, they're, they're absolutely different. Right. Yeah. And, and, and Harvard is also at this point very spread out to like MIT, I kind of think of as loosely a part of Harvard, people might disagree with them. It's right next door, though. So yeah, it's been segmented and Yale is kind of that way in some ways, but the things that have been done at Yale have changed the world and, you know, so it's, it's, it's something that I think has to do with the alchemy of the architecture itself, the symbolic qualities of certain buildings and, and then the impact that has on the people that spend their time there, you know, going there for school or just living near there, working there, you know, I mean, a lot of people that interact with that space, regardless of, you know, they're, whether they're a student or not, you're, it's a very open environment, you know, as you know,

1:07:43when you live in New Haven, you have to go through Yale's campus. It's not, you know, really how you can't really get around it. Yeah. Yeah. And, and half of the half of the stuff you do, even as a kid, like, well, I remember going, I mean, like, places like, um, like, toadslaces on the campus, essentially, you know, and like, that's like, you see the, the sports at the Yale Bowl or at the big, and this thing that they have. Yeah. And the, the little amphitheatre that say, I mean, everything, it's all there. Like, you can't, you can't get away from it. So, I remember, I have really interesting, uh, memories of being there as a kid, just like, you know, because when you're a kid, you don't have like a full scope of what's going on, but then when you visit those places later on in life, you kind of remember like a snapshot of something you saw when you're a kid. And, well, that's something that I really love about New Haven. I think, you know, the other places I visit in the United States, I haven't seen that

1:08:47quality of architecture. And I think that stone, that physical material has a valuable cultural imprint. Well, it's also got energetic things involved in New York. You don't find things like that in every city. You just don't even the oldest cities. You just, it's different. Yeah. The city definitely has a different energy. Yeah. Every city does certainly, but with New Haven, there's a couple of key stones that were utilized as well. And, uh, the Amos stone that people know because of New York City was actually a part of New Haven, uh, as well in a big way, brownstone, right? You've heard of like the brown stones. People live in brown stone apartments and they're renowned. It's these beautiful, amazing pieces of architecture. Well, that brownstone comes from Portland, Connecticut for the

1:09:50most part. And Portland, Connecticut is right on the Connecticut River and the Connecticut River at one point in time flowed through what is now New Haven. So the Quinnipiac River at one point in time was not there. It was actually, uh, a branch possibly or the actual former outlet of the Connecticut River and then something meteorologically or not meteor, uh, astronomical event where a meteor hit the Connecticut River essentially and it re it changed courses, uh, to where it now lets out somewhere near old in between old Sabreuk and uh, lime there. But, uh, at Portland is where this stone possibly hit and, uh, the Native Americans talked about this event in a way they had a legend of a giant coming along and stamping his foot right there

1:10:53in the river. And what's interesting about that is, you know, anyone who travels through Connecticut has probably seen the sleeping giant mountain, right? Yeah, it's one of my favorite places. Yeah, it's, it's, it's not like the only site in the world where you can see a mountain that shaped like a human, but the fact that the Native Americans have several different legends about these giants and that one of them was killed by a thunderbird and now lays right where we see it as sleeping giant. I found that significant and as I wanted a observatory castle on top of it, it's crazy. Oh, man, I didn't know that that was supposedly there's an, and I've got friends that think that so there's the absorb there's an observatory or they they call it the castle up onto and um there allegedly, uh, haunted by a black figure. Um, yeah, like a man in black.

1:11:54Oh, you get some strange vibes up on them. Yeah, you do for sure. There's a, there's something called Abraham's cave on sleeping giant and uh, I've never been to it. I've only read about it, so I don't know if they proper cave or not. I've never been to it either. Apparently it's hard to get to and uh, and somebody, I think he was related to PT Barnum died there and uh, his body was found like several years after we had passed away. So who knows, he could be, but PT, that's another character from Connecticut man, PT Barnum. Well, he's not from Connecticut. Well, he is, but that's where he died at least. So I, I don't know where he was born, but he definitely, he lived in Connecticut for a long time. Yeah, he had the, um, what was the name of his mansion? It was something like the Hindu, something around. Yeah, I don't remember, but uh, or the Rana Rana Stan

1:12:55motel something, something wacky, right? Yeah, but it looked like, um, something out of like the Middle East, like you were like out of Arabian nights. Yeah, an architect to make it in that aisle and yeah, you know, Connecticut had its heyday and I don't know that we're necessarily doing anything on that scale now beyond what goes on at the, you know, major companies and, and yeah, a peppered farmer makes good brick and bake goods, dude, that's all I know. Well, in Yale owns something like 64% of the state, you know, not yet land, but like, politically they have a big, uh, they have big sway because of all the hospitals and so on and so forth. So, you know, they have a lot of employees, right? Oh, yeah, for sure. And yeah, that gives them tremendous power even to this day. But one of the things that they sort of innovated was these

1:13:56collegiate land grabs, uh, something that I've only roughly looked into, but they were part of some pretty massive, uh, changes to the way property was given out in the United States and helped secure through certain laws, a lot of land into colleges and universities. Yeah, land grant stuff, land grant colleges and stuff. Right. So a lot of the free space in America has been taken over by some of these interests. And yeah, I, again, my theories and ideas aren't totally formed. And that's because I don't want to make any, you know, aviation against anyone, you know, like I'm not attacking Yale. I'm just curious about history and coming about this from a point of, of interest, like, of curiosity, because I owe a lot to Yale and New Haven for

1:14:56putting me on this course, you know, and also providing the circumstantial resources, you know, like Yale, because it's such a hotbed of activity in, in that intellectual sense, like there's a lot of books and, there's bookstores. And so I've just, yeah, I've really grown a lot from being around all that and working with different people. So give yourself some, some shameless product placement. You've got, because you have an episode, and I think it's a members episode, right? That is all about this. Yeah. Well, you know, that's, I guess, an ambition that I'm still yet to realize, I would like to create something like a documentary series about, you know, this and kind of the focus on New Haven and that, what are we calling it? The New Haven checkerboard. The, yeah, the New Haven chessboard in our chessboard. That wouldn't be any, I like it.

1:15:59But yeah, no, I call, I've called it all sorts of things, the order of strange New Haven, things like that. I'm definitely going to put it all together into something more digestible on them, on a more wide, widely accessible scale. I think you threw YouTube a sort of video documentary. Oh my god. I just wrote empty. He's bored. I can't spell. No, that cheeseboards. No, yeah, the, the Yale episode. It's on my sub stack. Thank you for giving me a chance. My family thinks I'm crazy dot sub stack dot com. But yeah, I regret to say that that is kind of like the first episode of what I had hoped would be many. And I kind of stopped there is a lot of effort to create that episode. So yeah, a little ambitious and hope. Hey, pick it up. Where are we without ambition? No, well, and there's other good stuff on my sub stack. So it's worth mentioning.

1:17:03And if you do want to access all that, you get there's some articles I've written would go into a little more detail. You can see my slides that I use for different podcasts, presentations, and then my podcast, which you can listen to ad free through my sub stack. So they for allowing me to plug that. But if you want to listen to my podcast with ads for free, you can listen to it wherever you find this show or any other podcast platform. I'm on YouTube and I have a website. If it's difficult to find, you can just go to my website and then you can, yeah, which I'll put in the show notes. I'll put all the links all the link crazy dot com. And yeah, I have a sort of article, a book, a small book, if you will, that goes into the history and the architecture of New Haven on a very detailed level. So if you like what I've talked about today,

1:18:10there is a PDF, which I want to send to you for free. And then maybe we can do this again. Absolutely. And after you've looked through some of the things in the book and you can talk in a little bit more detail. But yeah, if anybody's from New Haven or wants to learn about Yale or Scullin bones, I've got a ton of information. And that book is available through my website. There's a store link there. And you can find the books there ebook. So you just, you know, put in your email. That's super easy. So, yeah. Awesome. Mark, appreciate you coming on, man. And I could talk to you all night, I think, but I can't, my wife killed me. So, yeah, but at the end of the day, I really appreciate you coming on and we need to do it again. Yeah. We have a lot talk about here. Yeah. No, we're just literally just scratching the surface.

1:19:10Yeah. Well, and if people are curious to learn more about Scullin bones, Chris Milligan put out probably the best book available on the topic. And it's called Fleshing out Scullin bones written by him, but he also included the work of several other authors. So it's a great book because it compiles a ton of information on the subject. And that was pretty much where I got my start because back when I met Amos and he told me about Geronimo, he also told me that you could read all about it at the library. So I went to the library and I found Fleshing out Scullin bones by Chris Milligan, funny enough at my hometown library. And I don't think it's still there because I went back to look for it and it must have gotten taken out for some reason. Who knows why maybe they felt it was too to saucy for the town. Who knows? I don't know. Maybe someone like me just was, you know, bold enough to take it and never return it, but I bought my own copy Fleshing

1:20:17out Scullin bones. So yeah, that's a great resource for people who want to learn more about just Scullin bones and all the history and what they're connected to. Amazing. I appreciate it, my friend. Thank you. So we would be talking soon. Right on. Yeah, and we got to have you on my podcast as well. Sure. Whenever we went to just let me know walk those streets a hundred times never saw the lines beneath stone and shadow silent signs hidden right under my feet grids that whisper past the bend nothing here by accident every corner every end feels like something heaven said or maybe not maybe planned by hands will never understand you think it's just a city map you think it's random chairs but something's pulling all the strings like we're inside a trance there's a chest

1:21:20ball beneath the feet every move already made kings and bones and quiet streets plain games that never fade you can walk but you can see what's been written in the stone the same just geography this was built to guide your soul nine squares carved into the ground lines that don't quite make it straight twisted past that wrapped around like they're drawing out of fate bodies buried story sealed church bells that go through the past was hidden what concealed always finds its way at last energy you cannot name still remembers where it came you feel it but you can't explain that pressure in your chest

1:22:21like something ancient for watching you and never really left there's a chest ball beneath the feet every move already made kings and bones and quiet streets plain games that never fade you can walk but you can see what's been written in the stone the same just geography this was built to guide your soul lines across the eastern shore running farther than we know cities built on something more than just places we can go oh what if every step you take is part of something old what if every road was made to shape the things you're told not random not chance not history

1:23:27there's a chest ball beneath the feet and what pieces on the board through the lies will always meet where the silent lines are stored you can wake or you can sleep you can question you can roam but the deeper that you dig the less it feels like home so next time you walk those streets ask yourself were you exploring the city or was it exploring you