Final ADP Cheat Sheet! Players We’re Stealing in Every Draft (09/01 Fantasy Football Podcast)

0:00This is Fantasy Football today from CBS Sports. Swap away! Can you believe this? It's a no again. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. To the races, play stays on his feet. Just gotta go to the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. MUSIC Time to steal your draft, Thevery. That's what we're promoting today on Fantasy Football Today and Happy September, everybody. It is September 1st. It is Tuesday morning. And we've got ADP steals throughout the draft for you using CBS Sports average draft position. Adam, Jamie, and Dave here. We're also going to be on CBS Sports Network at noon, Eastern. We've got news and notes. This Aaron Glenn called Breeze Hall a three down back. And then he praised Braille and Allen's goal line and short yardage ability. We have an update on Zay Flowers. We have an update on Ameca Abouca. And by the way, Ameca Abouca's first three games of the season are against the top three teams

1:01against wide receivers last year. Cincinnati was second best. Cleveland was third best. Minnesota was first best. Has anybody ever say first best? How about just best? Yeah, best. That's Ameca Abouca's opening schedule. But anyway, let's be optimistic and talk about our favorite ADP steals. We'll get three here from each of you and then some more later in the show. Dave, you're on the clock. Let's start at the end of drafts. So it's round 12. You're looking at our ADP. You're trying to find somebody that you can just put on your bench. And I think this is someone that Jamie and I will agree on. Jamie might be a little more bullish. But it's Jalen Kocher. Who for whatever reason is going in round 12 in CBS ADP? Look at the final eight weeks of the season, including the playoffs. Kocher had 5.5 targets per game. Tetero Aming Millen, 6.5 targets per game. They had identical PPR averages over that span. 13.1. I know we're supposed to be excited about John and then Brooks and that Chubah Hubbard can come back and maybe the all the summits of a run game.

2:01I think Bryce Young has to get the ball out quickly in this offense. The tackles are not going to be the starting tackles are not going to be there to begin the season. Jalen Kocher is the short area option here. And he should play a lot. And as far as getting good bench receivers that could turn into number three receivers, I think Kocher is the perfect guy to look at in the double digit rounds. Would you take Xavier Worthy or Jalen Kocher? Kocher. Jamie? Yeah, Kocher, not close. Would you take Romeo Dobbs or Jalen Kocher? Also Kocher. Same. OK. Jamie, you're up. Yeah, I'll go with the guy that I was talking about. Yes, Shane, Jane Reed. Another guy going relatively late, round 11. And I think he's going to be the second best packers receiver. And if things go right, it might be the best packers receiver. So expecting Green Bay to throw more because of the running back situation, because of Michael Parsons being out to start the season, because of what the division is going to look like, I think those games are going to be fun shootouts. So Reed, 2023 was amazing. 2024 was OK. 2025 was injury plagued.

3:0223 games in his career with at least five targets. 15 of those games. He scored 13 and more PPR points. And average 16 PPR points over that span. Give him opportunities. He will succeed. And I think he'll help with the run game also because of the Josh Jacobs absence. All right. So right now, average draft position has Jalen Reed 125th or 126 overall. Well, look, things could be changing for all of the packers now. So where are you comfortable taking Jalen Reed? Round eight. Round eight. And that is what, like in the 80s, brain up. 90s. 90s. It ends. Round eight ends at 96. Six. Right. Sorry. So that's 84 to 96 overall. I should be better at this. Like I literally have a little piece of paper with the end of each round. And from that, that's how I knew that. OK. I think I took him. Yeah. He's a top 100 pick. And Jamie made me think a little bit about Jalen Reed versus Matthew Golden yesterday. And I think in PPR, I think I'm with Jamie on this one,

4:04just because Reed, short area target, slippery, little sucker out of the back field, low-ish A dot, although he can win down field if he gets left open or just out runs a guy. I like Matthew Golden too, but there's things that I saw in the preseason game against Pittsburgh that make me pause a little bit. He got hung up on Hansi coverage quite a bit. I think Reed can escape that. And if there are problems with the Packers Run game this year, he's one of two guys I think benefits. The other one's being Tucker Kraft. So I think in full PPR, I'm with you, Jamie. I think Jalen Reed's the better receiver to get out of Green Bay. OK. Dave's up around to, but I haven't given this stat in a long time, and I love it. Over the last three seasons, Jalen Reed has twice as many carries of 20-year more yards than Alvin Camera. As Alvin Camera. Camera has three and Reed has six. All right. Dave. I'm down to for you. I love that stat. I've been bullish on Casey Concepcion. All really since I've studied him back in March for the draft, and he reminds me a lot of Zay flowers, it's the ability to line up anywhere, run any route.

5:07He's got speed to win. He's got quickness to win. He can get open any way you want. And I see his average draft position in round 10. I think he's a round eight pick. I really do especially in full PPR. And I know there's questions about those Browns quarterbacks. As bad as those Browns quarterbacks are, they are capable of getting the ball in the Concepcion's hands, at least inside of 10 yards. And I think that's where the majority of his targets and catch is for Tom. I think he's the best in cast catcher in Cleveland. I think the Browns are going to be trailing at a bunch of games this year, which means the target should be high for him. He's arguably my favorite late round. Can we call him a late run guy? My favorite like half of the draft wide receiver to take. I like Coke or I like Reed. I would take Concepcion over both of those guys expecting him to see close to seven targets per game. Yeah. And rookies are usually a good bet late in the draft. There have been over the last six seasons, 36 wide receivers, six per year drafted in round nine or later and finishing either top 24 overall or top 24 per game.

6:10And we had a five season stretch with at least two rookies every year who are drafted 97th or later, round nine or later and finishing top 24 overall or top 24 per game. That ended last year. We didn't have any last year, but rookie wide receivers are good bet late in drafts. So far we have coca Reed Concepcion, Jamie who's next. I think this is the best value of any player on the board right now and has been for a while. It's Chris Godwin going 90th overall, which is climbing a little bit, but the 36 wide receiver off the board. You just mentioned a mecca Buka. We don't know when he's going to play. Chris Godwin reportedly having a fantastic camp, healthy again, back in the slot again, which I think is big. And just an easy pick if he's still there. Like I would take him at the end of round five if I have to, but round six is where I think the sweet spot should be for him. He's a top 30 wide receiver could easily be a top 20 wide receiver by the end of the year.

7:11So yes, he's coming off to injury play seasons. Yes, he's older. He's in his 30s now. And yes, a Buka should be the best receiver in Tampa Bay, but not healthy right now. Godwin's healthy right now. Baker loves Godwin. I think it could be an absolute smash pick if you get him at his cost, but you should certainly be looking to take him well ahead of where he's going right now. Adam, what's the stat on Mike Evans and Red Zone or ends on targets? Yes. Mike Evans. Let me just give it to you, exact here and so I'm not guessing. Okay. Last three seasons, the Baker Mayfield era, when Mike Evans has been on the field, he has had 45 of their 87 end zone targets that is more than half and no other player has more than nine end zone targets when Mike Evans is on the field and he had 45. So it's just an amazing opportunity for everyone to score more touchdowns. And who's the guy that's played the most with Baker Mayfield over the last two seasons

8:14in Tampa? Cameron. Cameron Braight. Okay. It's Cameron Braight. I think Godwin and Baker are on the same page. I think he's just going to be in easy middle of the field target. Jamie mentioned to these back in the slot. I don't quite have him in my top 30 at wide receiver. He's just outside of there, but he should be going way ahead of where the ADP is. Yeah. And I look at NFC ADP over the last week and someone asked, what is NFC? So these are high stakes leagues, you know, big tournaments, things like that. I mean, I just went to the home page today with Dave. There's like a $350 entry to win a few hundred thousand dollars or something like that. But you're, you know, you're paying, you can pay $50,000 for tournaments. I think something like that or maybe I'm too high. But people are paying money to play in these leagues. Godwin is going 71st, which is the end of round six, right? And those are all very heavy wide receiver leagues. He is, but he's going as wide receiver 33, which is pretty much where you have 29th. Jamie Dave has them closer to 33. But yeah, I mean, the guys going right in front of him are Marvin Harrison Jr. and

9:16Carnell Tate. Oh, no, I wouldn't take Tate. I'd rather have Godwin. I'd rather have Godwin than both of those guys. Same. Okay. So and then like I did a draft two nights ago and Godwin went 98th and my wife did a draft last night and he went 96th and he is on, he is a family, he's in the family now. He's on both of our teams. Okay. Jamie, me, do you have, I heard Andrew say something about that ADR touchdown. He just hated it. My son. Yeah, we have, we have our first draft soon. All right, Dave, round three for you. So far, Coker, Jaden Reed, Coker and Concepcion for Jaden, for Dave, Jaden Reed and Godwin for Jamie. Let's go, can we go high end here? Yeah, sure. And let's go running back while we're at it. And Amar and Hampton going almost 20th overall and ADP feels a little too late to me. We know that he's the chargers lead running back. There was talk a month ago about, oh, there's three guys in this backfield. Well, one of them is Commandy Vidalia who played a ton in the preseason. I think he's a clear backup. The next one is Keaton Mitchell, who has an undisclosed injury that we don't know much

10:19about. We know the chargers haven't put him on IR yet for a while. They said last night, Dave's going to play a week one. That's great. But I don't think he's going to take enough work away from Amar and Hampton to impact Hampton. And we know that the offensive tackles are healthy. We're assuming that the interior of that offensive line will be okay. And we know that Amar and Hampton is a baller running back. Illusive physical, big dude can work at the goal line, can catch the ball out of the backfield. Has a genius play collar and Mike McDaniel who's done great things with the run game, not just in Miami, but in San Francisco too. I think this is a huge opportunity for Amar and Hampton to take the next step in his career. I have him ranked. I have him ranked. Let me finish that statement. I'm looking at the wrong rankings. I am sorry for this. Next outside of my top 12 overall. And so don't mind him one bit at the one two turn as a running back that you can look at and say that's an RB one for the season. I know a guy that we like a lot is Chase Brown at his ADP and obviously we've done a lot

11:20of drafts. My favorite start I think, all the drafts I've done, drafting 11th was Chase Brown, round one, Amar and Hampton, round two. I think you guys probably sign off on a start like that, right? Love it. Yeah, I think any combination of those two of the top 11 running backs gets you, I don't always say significant advantage, but it gives you an advantage because the receivers that you're getting around three and four still so very still have chance to be extremely productive. So like to go running back running back, which is never something that I would advise in the last probably 10 years now makes some sense if you're at the back end of the first round. All right, Jamie, so who's your third guy? Yeah, we'll stay in the same team. We'll go to Lad Makanke. He's going right now 41.4 is the ADP, YBC for 17. I take him around three. So I like him better than Zay flowers. I think there's more upside for Lad this year. I know he loves flowers and I get it. But I think Lad gets back to his rookie level of production as the floor, which was right

12:24around 15 PPR points per game. So you get a situation here where Quentin Johnson is going to have his moments and is a great pick and other good player that you're getting at a good cost. But I just referenced what they they did last year and it was a terrible year for Makanke. But when Joe Alt was on the field, they were averaging a touchdown better per game. 25 points per game is what they scored in the six games all played 18 points per game without him. And now you're putting Slater back on the field too. So you have both tackles available with Mike McDaniel calling plays. So yes, so Mario Hampton is going to be awesome. Love Hampton. Great call by Dave. I think we're going to see Lad Makanke also get back to being the guy that we saw in his rookie campaign without Kenanow in there. His role is now defined where I think last year it was somewhat undefined because you can alternate and mix and match and do different things with Kenanow and Lad Makanke because they have a similar type of profile of where they could play. Quentin Johnson is not going to be moved as much. Trey Harris is not going to be I think a factor for Makanke. He's not coming off the field and now you're giving this coordinator that quarterback where

13:26he wants upon a time got a passing yards leader out of two of Tonga Veloah. So Justin Herbert could be fantastic. You know I love the chargers and I think Lad Makanke is going to follow suit. So I would take him in round three, middle round three. I think part of the problem last year for Makanke was he was hurt. Chargers offensive line was beat up. Herbert was under siege and he just couldn't come up with the same type of production that we saw as a rookie. So I co-sign this. I think he's around three pick. I go back and forth between Makanke and Garrett Wilson. I love both of these guys. Talents for sure. I've got Makanke one spot higher than Garrett Wilson, but they're both in that range. And you talked about this a second ago, Jamie. When you're looking at the wide receivers in late round three, those are two of the guys that are going to be there. And if you're okay with one of them being your wide receiver one, then taking our b's with your first two picks isn't really that bad of a plan. Yeah. Makanke versus Garrett Wilson is really interesting because I also like Makanke better than Wilson. But it's one of those things where when I looked into the research of the wide receivers

14:27that come out of this range, there's not necessarily any common thread. It's not great offense. It's not that because obviously if you're picking Makanke over Wilson, you're probably doing it because you want to take a charger over a jet. But I think the most important thing is pretty much always targets. And that Makanke, even in 2024, he was on pace for 119 targets in the last 10 games of 2024 when he was really good. I think he was on pace for 124 targets. Garrett Wilson, based on his career, is probably going to blow that away. I mean, he might have 30 more targets than Lad Makanke. I could see Makanke having more targets this year. I'm hoping he hits like the 130 mark. But I mean, if I had to project, I would have to project Garrett Wilson for more targets than Lad Makanke. Yeah. Sure. I think that's fair. I would probably say it's 20, 25 tops. Yeah. I think that's like 141, 20 feel safe for both those guys. I think just looking at it, since the last time Garrett Wilson played a game for the

15:30jets, they've added three prominent pass catchers, not anybody that's better than him, but players that are going to be involved, one of which is probably going to be somebody who takes a long time in Omar Cooper. But Sadeek, first round talent, Adnan Mitchell, they love him. So those guys could take some opportunities away from Garrett Wilson since he's played a game for them. Plus, the quarterback is different. So I think Garrett Wilson is a great late round, three early round, four pick. I just think Makanke's ceiling is a little bit higher because of what you said out of him. He's just in a better offensive environment. Yeah. And I will say this, I had this thought about Garrett Wilson. I don't know if we've ever brought it up because we brought up the Carson Beck thing with Tramick Bryant a lot. And the Cardinals have this really hard schedule. And at some point, are they going to turn it over to Carson Beck? Well, for one thing, Beck, he's had rib injury hasn't played since the Hall of Fame game. But I had the same thought with the Jets, though. It's like Kade Clubnick is their number two quarterback right now. They decided not to get a veteran. And if they're bad, I think at some point, they probably have to turn it over to him and

16:32see what he's got. They have their first eight games or like four really hard games and four very winnable games, but they're probably not going to win all the winnable games. So they could easily be like two and six. They could be oh and four. I don't think they want to win. So that's what they're one of those teams. Aaron Glent probably wants to win. Because he's on the hot seat. He's not going to last very long. But that might be like unless he wins a Super Bowl, it'd be surprising if he comes back anyway. Right. I think he makes the playoffs. He's back. I don't know. Clubnick at some point, like that's really bad, I think, for Garret Wilson. Yeah. So all right, let's take a break. News and notes coming up and more of our favorite values, CBS Sports Network today at noon Eastern. And just some programming, the season starts a week from tomorrow on Wednesday. There's a Wednesday game and a Thursday game. So we'll do the Thursday and Friday start sit as usual. But I'm guessing on Tuesday, we'll probably have to do starter sit for the Wednesday game and on Wednesday, we'll do starter sit for the Thursday game and whatever.

17:33But next week is going to be more a week one stuff rather than draft prep. We'll have some draft prep in there. But this will be our last full week, obviously, of draft prep. And this will be the last sentence I say before we go to break. I'm going to talk to you right now about Omaha Stakes. And this is a perfect time for me to do it because just last night, I cooked four Omaha Stakes for my family and they were awesome and we completely devoured them. And tonight Omaha Stakes burgers and hot dogs for the family. They also have seafood and side dishes. They have so many things at Omaha Stakes. If you want affordable, easy to make delicious food, Omaha Stakes is honestly a no brainer. This is like having a trusted butcher and gourmet shop in your kitchen. And let me tell you about the burgers, incredible deal here. Try a burger perfection flight for just $79.99. This is what you're getting. 20 premium steak burgers crafted from five distinct cuts of steak, each with its own unique

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19:35I have a hard time keeping up with my exercise. I have a hard time keeping up with my sleep. It does a great job in keeping me on track. So I love using Woop to help me get through what is a grind from now until January. So make sure you're checking out Woop for more head to Woop.com. Here are your news and notes. So as I mentioned, Jamie Erringlin called Bree Sol with three down back. And he praised Braille and Allen's goal line and short yardage abilities. Do you think Bree Sol has a Braille and Allen problem? I think every running back for the most part has a someone problem. It's just a matter of the extent of what you think that problem is going to be and what the coach is going to use him. So sure, there's going to be Braille and Allen touches. You hope they're not high valuable touches. As David said, which is clearly true. Frank Reich has used to running backs in his past, probably to his detriment, has used to running backs in his past. So we'll see just how much Bree Sol comes off the field. I'm not scared to draft Bree Sol early around four because of Braille and Allen. I'm scared to draft Bree Sol early around four because of the jets.

20:37So if it's Braille and Allen, if it's Isaiah Davis, look, he's still going to have what's number he keeps saying 17 total touches per game last year. 17.4 touches per game last year and average 13.0 p. Yeah, I think the 17 is probably safe. I'm going to go north of the 13 because I think this is the jets are better this year because of all the talent that they've acquired. And I do think that Geno is going to be a little bit better quarterback than what they had last year. Round four is the sweet spot for Bree Sol. Eight games under 10 p.p.r. points for Bree Sol last year. Michael Pittman and DK Metcalf are expected to be ready for week one. Dave, I just got a text from someone said, Pittman or Wandaile Robinson, what should I tell him? I would tell him Pittman and it's only remotely close and full p.p.r. Okay, that's what I told him. Zay flowers is still not at practice, but he has expected to be ready for week one. Anyone downgrading Zay flowers? No. Damn. He's in that same early round four range for me. He sucks. Malik neighbor says he feels good, but there are still some things he has to check off

21:40the box to participate. We still don't know if Malik neighbors is going to be ready for week one. Josh Downs and that's a cowboys. Oh, yeah, man, I want him back. Last time you played the cowboys, it was 40 points or something like that for him. Pretty good. Josh Downs and Tyler Warren, back at practice for the Colts. Jordan Tyson is on IR, not a surprise. First four games of the year, he's out at least that. That's at Detroit, at Baltimore, Las Vegas and Atlanta. Tampa Bay gave Sean Tucker that one year, $2.5 million deal. We talked about that at the end of last of yesterday's show. Denver outside linebacker Jonathan Cooper is on the commissioner's exemplest. He's facing domestic violence allegations. They open with the chiefs on the road. He already had a court date and pled not guilty. He's farther along in the process than Josh Jacobs is. The cowboys acquired offensive tackle, Brodrick Jones from the Steelers. He's going to compete to be their right tackle. We talked about Keenan Allen yesterday and the DWI arrest. The Patriots acquired running back Cory Keiner from Arizona.

22:42The Broncos waived rookie tight end just in Jolie. That was a little surprising. And he landed on the Dolphins. Oh, okay. Good for him. The 49ers update. Okay. Christian Kirk and Isaac Arendo are on IR. That means they're out at least four games. Kyle Shanahan made some comment about George Kittle having a setback. But or no, taking a step back. But I don't really know what he meant by that. So I'd be very surprised if he played week one at this point, given the the length of the trip and the fact that he's still coming back from this injury. So when you start to compare Kittle to likely Kelsey got the tight ends that are going around and based on ADP. And if you want to go a step further and maybe throw a fan in there from a higher end standpoint, then the lower end standpoint can cater to Andrews. Those type of guys, you have a decision to make. I still think for the season, Kittle is a strong pick. But make sure you have somebody to cover him for week one. So pair him with. I think you did this yesterday with John Johnson at a minute draft that we did. You can look at Dolphins Shultz who could off to a good start. You could look at if you wanted to, DeGton, just who was great filling in for him last

23:46year. So there are other options to help you. But at this point, you may have to carry two tight ends if you're not so inclined to because Kittle might not be there to start the season. I really like John Johnson in a game at Detroit. I think a lot of potential for points there. Obviously no Jordan Tyson. Okay, who else we got here? Tank Del is on IR. He's out four games at least. Same with, oh, and here's another reason why Detroit Safety Kirby Joseph is going to start the season on IR. Same with Chicago slot cornerback Kyler Gordon. He only played three games last year. Michael Parsons is on the public list. He's also going to miss at least four games. I think I'm going to skip. Okay. Detroit wide receivers coach Scotty Montgomery talked about James and Williams becoming a total player. And he's got a good connection with Jared golf. So more good boys for J. I don't know. Yeah. James Conner's on IR. Isaiah Pacheco has a back injury. If he's out Jacob Solier's as apparently the choice backup. ESPN's Brady Henderson who covers the Seahawks that his best guess is that Jadarian price

24:49will be the lead back with George Hullani on passing downs. I mentioned yesterday Travis Hunter, according to John Shipley of Sports Illustrated Travis Hunter has been playing almost exclusively cornerback for the last two weeks. And Raiders head coach Clint Coobeax said both Ashton Gentie and Mike Washington Jr. are going to prepare to play a lot of football. And Jamie, you just talked about the top 11 running backs now. It used to be top 12. But I'm starting to think that Ashton Gentie is going to be ready for week one. If not week one, maybe week two. I can remember Devon H. Ann becoming one of the steals of the draft last year because they were concerns that he might not be ready for week one. But and Heath has talked about this. I think he talked about it yesterday. Do you feel like the outlook for gentie is worse now than it was because Washington has made such a such a statement? It's definitely a strike against him. You know, I don't think it's like, you know, similar to Braille and Allen and Breast Hall. Like if you're in on Ashton Gentie, you shouldn't be running away from Gentie because of Mike Washington. That being said, last year it was the complete and total Ashton Gentie show.

25:53And it still could be. But why would you not want to play Mike Washington for two reasons? One, early in the season, you have a gentie coming off this injury and Washington is a great. And the second part of his Washington is a great. You know, so if you're a clink of the act who just come from a super bowl winning team that got great production from both of their running backs, that's probably a formula that would help your team, that would help your quarterback, who either going to be an aging Kirk Cousins or a rookie in Fernando Mendoza. Like it just makes sense to give those guys opportunities and chances to both play. So I do think that you have to downgrade gentie. I still would take him in early round three. I do not want to take him in the first round. Okay. It's kind of amazing that Kyron Williams and Ashton Gentie had almost the same amount of carries last year. And the number two Russia on Las Vegas in terms of carries last year was Geno Smith with 41. And whereas we know what the Rams look like with Blake Korum. Yeah. That's a positive game script versus negative games script.

26:54The guy who was supposed to be the number two running back in Las Vegas last year may not be doing work for us. Oh, yeah. He must have. That'd be cool. And he wants to get into fantasy. Ooh. All right. That's it for the news and notes. A few quick things here. League settings. Someone asked to Josh Jacobs be allowed in an IR spot. I think that's up to your commissioner. But if I were your commissioner and I'm terrible with that, the answer would be hell no. I have only allowed players on Pupp and IR to go in IR spots. I do not allow players who are out designated as out for a game to be an IR. If you want to do that, that's fine. It's up to your commissioner. My recommendation is Pupp and IR. And they should be on IR or Pupp, not out. Right. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Fab leagues. So typical league, maybe $100 budget. Make sure you allow $0 bids. I think that's really important. Don't bid, you know, like people who are kind of new to it. Don't spend, like don't spend $5 to pick up a DST this week.

27:57That's going to really come back to bite you. We could probably talk about this for like 10 minutes. So I'm not going to do that today, maybe on the mailbag. But you know, $1 for a DST, $0, put in bids for three different DSTs at $0. Same with kickers if you're doing that every week. You know, if a guy like, if a guy has 14 PPR fantasy points and he's a, you know, someone that you're not really buying in for a full season, don't spend $20 on him in week one. You know, so people spent 80% of their budget on Isaiah likely a few years ago. And it was a total waste. So be cautious with it. If you feel like you have a guy who can help you win all season long, like there's an injury and backup running backs available, that's when you'd be aggressive. I wanted to mention though, for the FFT open, if you're in that, you don't need your fab if you win your division. If you make it to weeks 16 and 17, you don't need any fab. You're the only person in your division. You can pick up whoever you want. So you are only, you know, think budgeting for the first 15 weeks.

28:58And someone asked a guillotine lead question, I don't play in those Jamie. I know you play in guillotine leads quite frequently. What's your strategy? Are you avoiding the amecabooca's of the world? And do you look at early season schedule? You definitely should look at the early season schedule. You definitely should try to avoid injury plagued players going into the year. But there's going to be a point in every draft. Remember, it's an 18 person draft. You're going to run into having to take players, hopefully at good cost, that will be significant factors for your team. So once you get past like really round four or five, every question starts to come into play for a lot of players, basically around seven or eight, you know, for a 12 team lead. So you start to just run into scenarios of, I can't avoid injured players. So like I try to take as minimal risk as I possibly can early in the draft. For example, Christian McCaffrey, I think when fifth or sixth overall on the draft, Dave's in this draft also that we're doing right now, we just started this week. That's not something I would be doing. Forget about how I feel about McCaffrey. And there's just risk involved with him early in the season.

30:01The good thing is he's healthy now. So you don't have to really worry about that. But like Abouka, trying to think like, Janty, during my love, like these players that have injury concerns to take them early as a risk, to take them at a good price. Absolutely, you buy into it. Yeah. Because every week you're going to have opportunities to add great players as one team's getting cut. All right. Let's get back into the ADP steals. If CDLAM is interesting because he's going 14th, I haven't taken him in a single draft. And I think one of the reasons why is Omari and Hampton, so I like Hampton better, and you already talked about him. But yeah, CDLAM, at 14th overall, when would you take him? Late round one. And I've found myself when I'm picking late in round one in those 10, 11, 12 slots, getting the LAM and Hampton. Because Hampton does make it past the one to turn pretty frequently. I know that last year, I only scored three touchdowns and he left a lot to be desired, had an injury.

31:02Still on the whole average day, 0.4 targets per game. We've talked about the six game sample when Dallas had quinnon Williams on defense. So their game scripts were a little bit different. In those six games, LAM had 9.2 targets per game. That was four tenths of a target better per game than Pickens, 16.4, PPR points per game. Pickens averaged more, Pickens scored more. And LAM had the high ankle sprain that he was dealing with. I think that he's healthy now. I could see him doubling if not tripling his touchdown total from last year while still getting a ton of targets. I am very comfortable with him as my wide receiver five overall. And when I'm taking him in late round one, it's with the idea that I don't really love any other wide receiver there. And the number of running backs that are left are all kind of in that same tier. We're talking about Hampton. We're talking about maybe Devon H.Anne. We're talking about Saquon, Derek Henry, Kenneth Walker, obviously should be part of that group too.

32:02If they all kind of look the same to me and I can look at those running backs and say, okay, I can get any one of them and I'm comfortable with them as my RB one. And I know I'm picking early in round two. I'm going to take the last best wide receiver and that's LAM. And then that opens up my team. I'm starting a running back or wide receiver running back and plenty of options available for me to take a running back in round three. Or I can just go receiver receiver with the receivers that are left in round three or four and still find a decent what running back in round five. But ultimately, I think that he's worth taking a few slots higher than what ADP says. Okay. Amari and Hampton was next on your list and we already talked about him. Let's go to Luther Burton who's going 61st in CBS ADP. Maybe a little higher now that the reports have been, have been good on him and he's expected to be ready for week one. How do you feel about burden? When would you take him? I would take Luther Burton like really close to that round four five turn range. I've got him right at 48th right now in full PPR. Just expecting a breakout year. Look at this Bears offense.

33:03I know the Downer Swift side of Great Camp. He'll run the ball. There's no question that Chicago will want to do it. They've got the offensive line for it. But I think burden is ticketed to be their best short area target. While he can work in that role and make a guy miss and add a ton of yards after the catch and have explosive plays, that's one of the ways that you beat cover two defense. I think he can also win on intermediate routes and in breaking routes middle of the field. I've talked about this role specifically a lot this off season. It's kind of how JSN and Amon Ross St. Brown won over, well, JSN last year, St. Brown the last several years. And who's the one that found Amon Ross St. Brown and utilized into the max? It was Ben Johnson. I think Johnson could see a version of that in Luther Burton. I can't say that Luther Burton is going to be ticketed for a ton of touchdowns because Colson Lovelin figures to be that guy. And Lovelin might actually lead the Bears in targets. I do like Lovelin more than Burton, but I do think Burton is criminally underpriced if he's going in late round five. Actually, he was the guy. That's round six. He was the guy when you were talking about high end guys.

34:04So first guy looked at was, was Burton and then Thomas sent a message about, you know, rounds three or four. So looked a little bit sooner than that. But yeah, he's, this, this is one of those players that you hope as the news trickles in and we get a slew of drafts coming from this point forward that his ADP gets a little bit closer. So I think what it should have been or would have been all along if he had stayed healthy. I'll go the other way on that. I don't want the ADP to go up. I want, I want people to look in their draft rooms and see that injury tag next to his name and go, I don't, I don't want to draft an injured guy. But he's practicing. He's fine. He shouldn't even have an injured tag next to his name. There's a dip here and you should be buying it with this. So Garrett Wilson, Teterola McMillan, Luther Burton, rank him. I've got Wilson McMillan, Burton. Wilson McMillan, Burton. DJ Moore throw the him in there. Behind McMillan ahead of Burton. Wilson Moore McMillan, Burton. Okay. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of like a little more cautious than Heath who's taking Burton at the

35:05three, four turn. I am going to give you some very poorly researched statistics here because I just asked Google and the AI overview came back with this. Since 2000, how many second year wide receivers have had a thousand yards, a thousand yards after getting six year fewer targets as a rookie? And Google came back with four. Victor Cruz, Antonio Brown, Rashid Shaheed, and Adam Thielin. So I mean, it's a lot to ask, that's only a thousand yards by the way. That's not that good anymore. But that's a lot, you know, it's a guy who had 60 targets last year and basically didn't have a training camp and a preseason this year. There's still some risk and you talk about the touchdowns. You said, Colson, love them could be that guy. Romo Dunze has been that guy with Caleb Williams. He's the end zone target guy. He's had one of the higher over the last two seasons. Romo Dunze ranks eighth among wide receivers with 0.93 end zone targets per game. It sounds like I'm crapping on Luther Burton.

36:05I love him. I mean, I think he's a great player, but I just, I do think it's worth noting it's really a very small sample size with him. So, you know, there is some risk there. Okay. I hope that I didn't just cloud everything up, but felt like I had a, I mean, go, if it goes 61st, I'll take him every, you know, it goes 61st, I'll take him. Yeah. Remondre Stevenson 74th Parker Washington 75th overall, if you're on the clock, Tucker Kraft 76th overall in a vacuum. Who's the best value? They're all going, let's say 75th. Remondre Stevenson, Parker Washington, Tucker Kraft. Washington followed by. I think I have craft ahead of Stevenson. Okay. Washington, Stevenson, Kraft. Okay. But Dave likes all these guys 75th overall, which is round six. No, seven. Wait, 60. Yeah. It's beginning of round seven. Steven said Washington Kraft, go.

37:10Well, so who am I talking about first, Remondre? Whoever you want. I mean, yeah. You know what? You don't have to convince me on Parker Washington or Tucker Kraft. You have to convince me on Remondre Stevenson. Sure. He's been the best running back in camp so far for the Patriots after being the best running back for the Patriots last season. He wasn't really taking off until late last year, but I think he's going to have the platform to be effective, maybe even a little more efficient than he was last year. I love that he's been working more in red zone drills, catching passes from Drake May. I think he benefits from AJ Brown being on the field. Travian Henderson has not taken the step forward, at least according to reports that the Patriots were hoping for. That means Remondre is going to stay on the field. He might even be able to withstand fumbling twice before losing some of work to Travian Henderson. And the fact that people are taking him in early round seven just tells me that they're not seeing what reality is with Remondre Stevenson. I think reaching fourman round five is a step too far, but we're looking for running backs in that late round five early six range that we're comfortable with as an RB two.

38:14And here's a guy who should see 15 touches a game, work the goal line. I think it's a good offense. I think it's a pretty good offensive line. I know it's a tougher schedule for the Patriots this year, but I'm finally it's taking me like what three years to buy into Remondre Stevenson. I'm finally buying in just because I think the situation is good for him. You didn't convince me. Well, that's fine. I'll take them after you pay. It wasn't your fault. It was. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't see. I think he was RB 22 per game last year. And Travian really didn't do much at all in the games that Remondre was healthy. So if Travian has an increased role, I've been saying Travian's that's the hard thing to buy though. I don't know about that because he again, he didn't really have that big of a role except when Remondre was out. And I think Travian is an explosive player that they need to get on the field. I don't want to draft him. But you say that they need to get on the field.

39:16They didn't need to get him on the field last year and they played him less in the important games last year and made it to the Super Bowl. Yeah, but he and now they just added two significant playmakers in the passing game, which is a good point because when Stefan Diggs was on the field last year, Remondre Stevenson had a eight was seven point two percent target share. It was eight point seven percent when he was off the field and he didn't play that much. And AJ Brown is going to command more targets. So that's my way of saying, yeah, I don't look. You're not you're not drafting Remondre Stevenson because he's going to all the sudden become Christian McCaffrey. You're drafting him because he's the lead running back on what should be an explosive offense that as you have said time and time again and I completely agree is going to probably have to carry them a little bit more because they're schedule stuff and they don't have the opportunity to win games as handily as they did last year. That's not good for Stevenson. Well, I don't think it's bad for Stevenson because I think they're going to score more. So I think you're going to see a situation where there's better offensive production in totality. Some of the metrics may be worse because of just having the ball more in their hands and having to produce more. But I think just in comparing to running backs, like if they don't trust him in past protection,

40:19forget about him playing an obvious passing down situations. And if they're not going to use my first and second knowledge, why would they at this point? Stevenson is going to be on the field a lot more. And so if you just go back to last season, it was all but two games where Stevenson played more than Henderson and all but two games in terms of playing time. And so I don't see that changing barring injury. Now the thing is that we've done these zoom calls for the people that bid on St. Jude and just did more than right before this. The reason I bring it up is because talking about taking Ramondra Stevenson around six and the thing that I said to the person that doing the zoom call with, the biggest fear that I would have with drafting Ramondra Stevenson, it's not when both guys are healthy. As if Stevenson gets hurt and then Henderson takes off and does everything right when he gets those moments. Clearly he did everything right in those three games, but not to the extent of you didn't Wally Pippam. You didn't take the job away from him and he's never getting it back. So I think that's the concern is if Henderson comes in whatever amount of time Stevenson

41:21misses, if it's an ankle sprain or something that just keeps him out for a minimal amount of games, then if Henderson runs away with the job by by Ramondra because you're right, Adam. We could all see who's the better player. But it wasn't like that last year. It wasn't like that last year. I mean, Henderson theoretically could have run away with the job last year. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I don't really like it. I don't draft either of that, my guess, which maybe is crazy. I think so. I don't think you're alone. I'll give you one time where I've regretted not drafting Henderson. It was our CBS sports draft, the Thunley. The results are on site. I went zero RB in that week. The first running back that I took was Rico Doudon. I was torn. It was Rico Doudon driving on Henderson. We were the two running backs that I was considering. I'm like, do I want the highest upside play because of the build that I have or do I want the safer floor because of the build that I have? That's going to be one that haunts me because if Henderson hits, oh my God, that team is absolutely ridiculous because I love the receivers, love the quarterback, love the time. If I don't have any confidence in the running backs that I have there, then that's not

42:26the right move to make. It's a really tough call. It's really difficult of whatever you view Henderson. I feel like the time to take Trevi on Henderson is you've got your two running backs that you love. You got your receivers, maybe quarterback or tight end. You get to that round six, seven range and you're like, I'm swinging for the fences because if he hits, he's going to be the best player in fantasy. One of the top three players in fantasy. Just that much potential. We saw it in those games. He had five games last year, three without Ramandrey, two with Ramandrey, 16 PPR points or more. Right. He was great. For Ramandrey, Dave, I actually like his ADP. I guess I personally wouldn't call him a steal there. I think that's where I would take him, 73rd overall. As RB2's go, that's as steely as you can get. Okay. I still think you'd treat him as a flex, but sure. All right. We're going to take a break here and we've got more from Dave. I've got a few players. I'll throw at you as well as great values. Draft day steals. I'll tell you why there's one spot in the draft that I absolutely hate picking at.

43:29I picked there last night. I hate it. I'll tell you why in a little bit. We'll be right back. Dave's got a couple of wide receivers going between 87th and 91st overall. Chris Godwin and Brian Thomas Jr., who do you like better? I have BTJ ranked a little bit higher. Okay. Okay. Do you think these guys should be around earlier? Yeah. I mean, we already talked about Godwin as a round six pick, even a round seven pick. If you find them there, I don't think you should hesitate. And BTJ is in that same range. We know what his upside is. You just have to hope that he stays healthy. As long as that happens, he's not going to get as many targets as Parker Washington from game to game. I think it'll be close. And I think they'll be further downfield. And there will be some games where BTJ is like one of the best boom bus number three wide receivers that you could ask for. Who's a better value? Parker Washington 74th overall or Brian Thomas Jr. 86th overall. Washington 87th. Okay. Next up, we've got Isaiah likely at 95th.

44:36So Tucker Kraft 76th or Isaiah likely 95th. Who do you like? I think because of the running back issue in green Bay. And inside to say, I don't like March on lead. I just don't like Lloyd as much as you do at him. I think I'm going to lean Kraft. But these guys, these are two of the tight ends that I'm going to target if I miss out on the big four at the beginning of drafts. So Bowers goes too soon for me. McBride goes too soon for me. I whiff on Loveland. I whiff on Warren. I'm not panicking. I'm going to look to get one of these tight ends. Once I get to, let's call it even round six because I know Kraft is going a little bit behind round six. But in round six, if I want to try and get somebody that can be a different maker at tight end or at least be a guy that I can start at tight end every week and I have to think about, I don't have to play the waiver wire to try and find a tight end. Don't have to stream a guy. I think Kraft is there and I think likely is there. And I think they both play a very similar role for each of their offenses.

45:39I think they're short area targets for their quarterbacks. Yeah. Likely, Kraft, a much better yak guy than everyone in football history, honestly, throughout the course of his career. Likely, we still don't know what kind of player he is. I think he's a good player. I don't think he's necessarily, you know, a wawi, zawi athlete that's just going to run away from people who run away from the slower defenders out there. But I just big body, easy target for Jackson Dart. Giants want to run the football a lot, but I also think they don't want dark to do it. And so that means he'll stay in the pocket a little bit longer, check down a little bit more, throw the short pass a little bit more. And I think likely will be that guy. And that also means that he'll be a factor in the red zone. And as long as neighbors is healthy, that's going to make coverage a lot easier on likely. Okay. Let's go to, and I just love tight. I love the tight end position. There's so much value up and down the board. You could take any approach you want at tight end. You want to go early. You want to wait for likely 95th overall or keep waiting in Kelsey, whatever.

46:42John, with your last pick, whatever it is, it's just so much value. There is. Quentin Johnson, 90 eighth overall, Michael Wilson, a hundred and second overall. Who do you prefer there if we need a bench wide receiver? I think it's really close between those two. I've got Wilson two spots ahead of Quentin, Johnson. And I think they're both kind of serving in that same role where, well, maybe Johnson maybe has a little bit of a better role just because he can be the number two target getter for the chargers, whereas Wilson, it might take a lot of work for him to be the number two guy, but he could be number three. It's just going to be an Arizona offense that I expect to continue throwing the ball. It's on this year. Love the way that he was utilized in the preseason. We heard about that being the case in the off season. And I just think that the floor is going to be a better play designer for this offense than what we got out of, out of drew petzing the last few years there. And I don't think it's necessarily a slight at Tramack bride. I just think they're going to throw the ball ton and I think it's going to be a little bit more even between the three players. But bride could be down to eight targets per game.

47:44Marvin Harrison, Jr. Michael Wilson, probably closer to seven targets per game, maybe six and a half for Wilson. And just a really good value seeing him going after pick 100 overall. That's round nine for receiver that we know what his upside is. We saw it last year on film. It will not take much for him to be 12 ppr points per game. I don't think he's going to get to like 20 or whatever it was that last year. 21.2 points. Yeah. And let's flip that to in the one. It's going to be more like 12, but six for 60. I think he could do on a fairly regular basis throw a touchdown in there every now and then couple of breakaway plays. He's going to be able to win on those in breaking and out breaking routes. The horizontal routes that we're looking for from wide receivers now. He should do more of those than Marvin Harrison, Jr. It's just a matter of whether or not he'll be a primary in the red zone compared to McBride and compared to Marvin Harrison, Jr. We already have the one play against Las Vegas where Marvin Harrison, Jr. was the primary read and he scored a touchdown on a great throw from Berset. Marvin has just the problem. The problem, Michael Wilson is that he was just so bad last year when everybody was healthy.

48:47It was like glaring how disappointing and uninvolved he was. And so hopefully the floor recognizes what he did last year and will utilize him like that. I think just comparing the two is very obvious that Mike McDaniel is going to utilize Quinn Johnson and try and get him involved. So I would I think there's more upside with Quinn Johnson to be hit. You know, for a guy that has back to back seasons with eight touchdowns and hopefully can do a little bit more with everything else. Plus maybe another touchdown or two. So I lean Johnson because I think he's going to be better. Plus, you know, again, like Michael Wilson's career has been just largely disappointing until you had this perfect storm of Jacobi Berset throwing all the time and Marvin Harrison out there. Even in the second half of the season, there was only one game where they were both on the field together or Michael Wilson did well is because of court action. If I really felt like I could get Quinn Johnson 97th or 98th overall, I mean, he'd be on every single one of my teams. Yeah. He went 80th on our podcast league in one of my FFT open leagues.

49:49Let's see. Quentin Johnson. Sorry. I was trying to pull this up beforehand. He went 98th, which I had taken him there. So I won't keep going. This is probably boring for everybody. But I love it. I love the value there. Both those guys that, you know, when Johnson, if you, if you missed out on your chance to get Hampton or McConkey and you want a later spot of this charge or so often, and you don't take Herbert, Johnson's the way to do it. All right. Dave will finish up a Blake Corum 104th overall. And then Jacori Kroski merit 105th overall. Pretty different players. Yeah. Right. Like, who do you prefer? I prefer merit, but it's because I know that he should be the lead back for the commanders to begin the year. I don't know if that's necessarily a great thing, but if we're looking for running backs that are guaranteed. And I'm using that term loosely touches merit would be that guy. I'm probably a little too bullish on him. Did the Kroski member of the family do something to you that you won't call him Kroski merit? No, no, it's I'm just trying to shorten my syllables here.

50:54I should just be calling them Bill, right? Instead of saying, a Corey Kroski merit every time I say his name. Yeah. But it, it, it's just do simple opportunity math here. He should be the lead back for an NFL offense. I know the offensive line isn't great. I'm not sure how good this offense will be. I'm leaning toward it not being particularly good, but at bare minimum, he should see an efficiency boost for however long Jane Daniels is healthy. And Blake Corum is a waiting game. We're waiting to see if he overtakes Kyron Williams. I think as long as the two of them are healthy in LA, it's going to be a tough cell for him to completely overtake Kyron Williams. But the contingency upside is very obvious for Blake Corum. And I think it depends on what you need by the time you get to round nine in your draft. If you love your running backs and you want a lottery ticket, Corum is your guy. If you went hero RB or zero RB and you need somebody who can start for you in week one and you'll have a reasonable amount of confidence, that would be Bill. Adam, just because I think it's worth mentioning, because we talked about both give your, your, your take on Blake Corum versus Travion Henderson, which I've seen stolen in a few places.

51:58No, I was just saying like Travion Henderson to the 80 piece finally starting to go, go down on Henderson there, but it's like, I think it was going in the sixth round. He still might be going in the sixth round. I think he was going in the fifth round at one point. Yeah. Fifth, sixth, seventh round for Henderson. It's like, what's the difference between Travion Henderson and Blake Corum? You can get that same upside 30 picks later or something like that. You know, the same with Kyle Menongai and both all those guys are going to have a role. Blake Corum averaged 10.5 carries per game in the last 11 games of the year while Kyron Williams averaged 14.9. There was a report, there were a couple reports earlier this year that was going to be closer to 50.50. So I don't really buy that, but you can get 10 carries by not all that catches, but he had eight goal line carries. They both had eight goal line carries, Kyron and Corum in the last 11 games. So it just doesn't make any sense to me to trade, trade, run Henderson when you can take Blake Corum 30 picks later or whatever the case may be. Now, I want to bring up one other running back here because one of the guys that I thought was a good pick at ADP was Jordan Mason and he's right in this group here with Corum and Jkory Krasky Merit

53:01and he's probably more similar to Jkory Krasky Merit. I guess I prefer Jordan. I do prefer Jordan Mason. Same. Not even close. It is close because, you know, the reason why I originally preferred Mason was with the reports that he was going to be the guy and Aaron Jones was just going to kind of be the passing guy. But then lo and behold, preseason starts and it's not that at all. I mean, it's basically an even split. But the reason why I still prefer Mason is the injury to Laramie Tunsell. I think it could have a really big effect on the run game there because you've lost an amazing tackle. You've also moved the guard out to tackle. It could really hurt that offensive line. Jamie, why is it easily Mason for you? Offense. 100% offense. You know, so I think you just look at it as I think Rashad White's going to be a big factor also. So it's not like, you know, Jkory Krasky Merit's alone and not getting competition. So it feels like they're both going to be in similar spots. Obviously, Jkory Krasky Merit has huge upside. But like you just said, the offensive line is a potential issue for the commanders.

54:04Whereas the offensive line should be a strength for Minnesota. It feels as if they're trying to make things more sustainable for Jordan Mason to have a big year by changing how they're blocking and what they're trying to do to feature him a little bit more. Again, this guy averages five yards per carry for his career, 4.8 yards per carry last year. Not going to be a factor in the past game. And the other is Bill, 28 career catches for Mason. So I think Bill might have a slight advantage there if you go back to the report we had about a month ago of him being more involved in the passing game in camp. But I still got to see that first. So if we're talking about the, I shouldn't say it's easy. But I just prefer what I expect to be the better running back in Minnesota to the better running back in Washington. Okay. And Dave prefers Bill. But Dave also likes Casey Konsepcion, Josh Downs, Matthew Golden and Jalen Koker, late in your drafts. Can you please rank Konsepcion, Downs, Golden and Koker? Konsepcion, Downs. And I think I now have Koker over Golden. Okay. Konsepcion. I have double check that.

55:05Do you like Konsepcion's Konsepcion better than Quentin Johnston or Michael Wilson? No. Okay. So you go Wilson, Johnston, Konsepcion, Downs, Koker, Golden. And those are good players to have. Downs. I've got Golden over Koker. I'm sorry. Okay. So those are good players to have in your, on your bench. Absolutely. I'll give you four or five steals in drafts. I think Kolston, Loveland 42.3. That's his ADP. Kolston, Loveland in the middle of round four, almost late round four. Now, let's call it the middle of round four. Exactly in the middle, dumbass. And we know who he is. Tederwurth, sorry. Well, we don't know who he is. Tederwurth, sorry, gets in each of his last four games, including the postseason. They didn't throw a single screen pass to him last year. And he's got kind of a high A dot. That that concerns me and that plus like the fact that again, it was only a little bit of a stretch makes me hesitant to take Loveland in the third round. And when I'm drafting with Dave and Jamie and Heath and all these guys, I have to take Loveland either late third or really early in the fourth.

56:07If I can get him once Maconky, a book, months Maconky, Devante Smith, Zay Flowers, that groups off the board, Travis H. Chan, Javante Williams, are off the board. And we're starting to talk about Breeze Hong, Garrett Wilson, Tederolumic Millen. That's when I'm more comfortable taking Loveland. If he does get to me in the middle of round four, I think it's a great pick. Ameca Buka, 44.5. Dave, I totally bought your hype about him as a round three breakout. I just think the toe injury you have to be careful considering that. But not only that, his first three games, I think I said it on the air, right? I said it off the air, but they said it on the air. Cincinnati, Cleveland, Minnesota, they were one, three and two, they were two, three and one against wide receivers last year. That's a tough way to start. And I buy it too. I mean, I think they are going to be good against wide receivers. Cincinnati, maybe not as good, because one of the reasons they were so good is they were terrible against the run. That would be better there, but they have a shutdown corner in DJ Turner. So a Buka. Now, another guy I love is Devante Adams.

57:09I have been drafting so much Devante Adams. He's going 57th overall in CBS leagues. And I would take him late in the fourth round. I think he's right there with Ameca Buka, wide receiver nine per game last year. And if he catches eight touchdowns, I did the research. Most of the time, if you catch eight touchdowns, you're almost guaranteed to score at least 14 points per game, which last year was pretty damn good. So he also, I think he's going to catch, I think he's going to have a higher catch rate this year. He had one of the worst catchable target rates Devante Adams did last year with any wide receiver in the NFL. He had a career high A dot, let's bring the A dot down, let's bring the catches up. And he's still going to be a red zone threat. By the way, Adams played one game without Buka Nakuha. He caught three touchdowns last year. And the Kua back at practice, you're going to be said it. I did not say that. Thank you. Yeah. George Kittle 84th, I call, I shouldn't have called this a steal. I think that's really appropriate value for Kittle. And I have in fact been taking a lot of him early in round eight. I think that's the perfect time to take George Kittle.

58:11Let me ask you a question. First off, going back to what we talked about earlier, if you know that he's going to miss at least one game, are you still taking him there? Yeah, that has zero effect on me. If you know he's missing three games. No. But Tungus was pretty good last year. Okay. Well, no, no, no, no more question. Yeah. If you know that he's missing at least one game to potentially three because he didn't get put on IR. So it's assuming it's less than four. And you only have five bench bots. Are you taking him? Yeah. Yeah. It's tough. I mean, it's a, it's tougher. But if you know, maybe you take exact sharpening one of your bench players, then you put him on IR and pick up a tight end. No, I understand the question. I just look, George Kittle, we know who he is. He's been a top three tight end per game in seven of the last eight seasons. He's coming off with Tony Killies, but I'm just starting to feel like medicine has advanced so much that these guys are just, you know, breaking trends and coming back better. I'm not going to rule it out for him.

59:12I do think he's a guy that you should probably take a second tight end and Juan Johnson could get off to a very nice start. So I think that's a good pairing. And I mentioned Jordan Mason. And that's it. And I will end the show with my random thought of the day. I hate picking forth. I really don't know who to take. It would be Pukinakua easily for me if I didn't think there was a chance he'd get suspended. But I hate it. Makes me want to take McCaffrey. But then I feel like David Jamie and Heath are going to throw tomatoes at me for picking McCaffrey. You take who you want, man. Yeah, we're not going to, first of all, I'd like to enjoy my tomatoes. Make a nice sauce. That's his favorite fruit. Right. Yeah. Who do you think I waste them by throwing them at you? How do you take forth? Puka. Yes. And if not Puka, it would be St. Brown. If not St. Brown, it would be Jason. It would not be Christian McCaffrey. I just feel like I'm going to get it wrong. Like, picks one through three is so easy to me. I really like picking late in the in the round. Four or five, six, seven, I'd say. I just feel like I'm going to screw it up.

1:00:14How do you feel when you're up in late round four, too? Well, I'm at the bottom. I'm just on my team. And by the way, if I took Puka Nakuwa fourth overall, I'd still would be fine taking Tebante out. I mean, that'd be better if I could do it in round five. 80 pieces. So, when you're when you're late round four, like pick 40, you're good. I mean, so stupid. All right. That's how it is in a 10 team week. At least we've got to give you credit for that, Adam. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, that's it for today's show. We'll talk to you on CBS Sports Network. And new in Eastern for Dave and Jamie, I'm Adam. Talk to you more. Chandler elastic band, Crazy towards Jamie tuition. ¡Super du Honioso. Back to seventeeen games… He got really elders in 1956.

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