Film Sack ROUNDTABLE: Our Mid-Movies

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1:11Hello and welcome to an episode of Filmsack that is a special roundtable. You know them, you love them. Actually, we do get a lot of feedback about these people really like these versions of the show. Good, I like doing them. I'm saying it's perfect. That was Brian Dunnoway, that was Brian Ebid, Randy's over there too, hi Randy. Hello, let me tell you, boy, do we like to talk about movies this week on this roundtable episode? We're talking about the average, we're talking about movies, joeys, you're all right with them. You know what I mean? This is like a movie in a genre where you go, yeah, I could watch that, or I don't know, but we're not going to talk about bad or good movies, except in relation to these that are in the middle. Yeah, exactly. We're calling them mids, that's probably the best term for it. People like to use that, throwing that term around a lot, like oh, that game was mid or that show was mid or whatever, and usually do it in a negative way. But I think we can actually put a little bit of a positive spin on the term. That's so, yeah. Yes, yes, it's movies that other people don't consider great,

2:15and you don't consider great. But it's okay. Yeah, you can watch it. It is okay. You should... Hey, it's always been okay, but we're not... I think that was one of my problems when you presented the topic, not like I was like, oh, I can't believe Randy's asked me the question. But my problem was like, oh, I got to digest this, see what I'm thinking. And so I was kind of like, hmm, I'm like, so I went to my first movie that I consider to me is meh or mid. And I was like, well, that's not true, because a lot of people love dirty dancing, but I've seen it a tons of times. But it doesn't really speak to me, because the topics aren't really aimed at me, like you could certainly be a lot closer to the topic. I'm not saying this is a bad movie. It's a great movie. But I just... I've seen it a million times. I'm kind of like... I don't know. See, there's a difference right between you... But that's a good movie. I mean, it is. I guess it is. I feel like it's just above mid.

3:15Okay. Dirty dance. All right. Yeah. Yeah. That's probably fair. I mean, okay. The first one I thought I was broken arrow, we've done that on this show. John Travolta being a bad guy. What's his name? He sounds like Jack Nicholson being the good guy. Christian Slater. Christian Slater. Christian Slater. Yeah. Those... John Wu, one of my favorite action directors of all time. And I'll watch it, even today, happy to just sit down and go, oh, broken arrows on. But I am in no illusion that that's a great movie. Right. Or even a good movie. No one else has that. No one else has that. It's a perfect idea. No one's going to fight you on like, oh, but broken arrow, man. Yeah. Yeah. If they do, I worry about the thing of mid. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I feel about the mid stuff. It's not so much... There's some universality to it or some kind of consensus agreement that there's nothing special going on. Like, what's another good one for me? Like, X-Men last stand. I think is objectionally bad.

4:15Yeah. But I can watch it. That's kind of where I had to go, you know, to think about this topic is, all right, what are some franchises and what do I consider to be the best in the franchise? What do I consider to be the worst in franchise and then what sets kind of in the middle? And last stand for me is one of the worst. Is it worse than like apocalypse or dark phoenix or things like that, probably, probably not. So I think you're probably right in that, you know, it does kind of square in the middle of the of the Fox X-Men movies, yeah. But it's right in the middle. But like, you know, if I go MCU, I'm thinking like the Marvels, maybe Eternals, not bad movies, but nowhere near the greatness of Infinity War and endgame, but also not nearly as hard to enjoy as Thor Dark World or, you know, that's an interesting thing you brought up because

5:20Dark World for me, as you know, because I watched it with you, I think, yeah, better than you expected, right? It was better than I thought. Part of that is just, you know, I had all these never one told me how it was the worst Marvel movie. Yeah. I come out of it really enjoying it, but also feeling like I had seen something mid in the context, you know, the Overton window of MCU films, right? And that's it. So you have to do that sometimes, right? You have to say, well, of the Star Wars movies, not of all science fiction, you have to kind of narrow it. But, yeah. Right. I just watched the Dark World last week and we're doing a big watch everything in the MCU right now and this kind of take us a year to watch it. Sure. Yeah. Preparation for Doomsday is the deal basically. Yeah. And it is basically one of the reasons we're having this discussion. I love that it came up totally organically because it is so perfectly mid. It is, it is a movie that I will not seek out. I will not ever say that I hated it ever.

6:23Yeah. And if somebody else is like, you know, in the distant future, if someone else is like, hey, we're going to watch the world of dark world. All right. Sure. That's fun. Maybe that's an interesting distinction is that, you know, I would put it on the far lower end of the MCU films, but maybe because I hold kind of all the MCU films in a higher regard, I think they're all actually, you know, they've all got some good things about them that a mid film can still be the worst in a franchise, not the middle one in a franchise. Great point. I feel very strongly that, I'm sorry, this is coming up, but I really don't like the first Mad Max film and I think that Thunderdome has its moments, but it's kind of bad compared to the rest. So right. That's, that's a good question. So lots of times the middle movie, and I stayed away from like series and stuff because I was thinking a lot of middle movie, yeah, I felt like the middle movies are almost always.

7:23They're a bridge. And so they kind of have to, they kind of have to be a mid or you're thinking of specific like the middle like in a trilogy, the middle movie, the second film, because it's, because sometimes it has, it's like, oh, we've got to, we've got to get a lot of these story points across. And it's like, we can't do anything too exciting. We just got to get a lot of, so I mostly stuck with like, romantic comedies. Once again, people are probably like, do you just hate love Brian? You didn't like dirty dancing? It's like, no, I like dirty dancing and I recognize this is a really good movie. I just, you know, it just doesn't excite me and I was trying to think it's things I've seen a lot of. Now, Ben stiller for a long time was kind of almost like a comfort food for a while in his rom-coms. Yeah. It was one called a long cane poly with him, a long, a Jennifer Aniston in him, but I've been, honestly, honestly, it's fine. Yeah, yeah. It sounds really good on paper. It's like, oh, a risk assessment kind of guy in a relationship, this kind of, you know, risky. That could really be some big humor, but you're not wrong.

8:26Yeah. I don't know. And series of films often give us this later, a series of films. I brought this up with my kid a couple days ago. I was just like, hey, I think we're going to, we're going to have a special episode where we just talk about movies that are so average. And he just immediately goes, like, Tron Legacy and I'm like, yes, exactly. That's a good, yeah. Perfect example. Oh, my gosh. That might be my fate. That's actually a favorite example because I'm so back and forth on it. My first watch in the theaters was so freaking disappointing for me. For reasons I can't even really express, I don't, I don't really know what I expected. But subsequent viewings have been really enjoyable. And I think that I'm okay with it now, but I'm not going to say it's, I can't say it's great. You, you guys, it sounds like a me. Do you kind of get like in the mood for a mid movie where it's like, I want a movie, it's not going to challenge me too much right now. It's not going to be too loud, it's not going to be disappointing. This is going to kind of be deep impact is a good, like deep, it's not about deep impact

9:28because you're getting is exciting. Yes. Yeah. Exactly. If it's on, I'll probably leave it on, but I'm not going to like, you know, say, oh, wow. Let me look through the Netflix thumbnails for deep impact. If it's, if it's at the top of the thing, Netflix thinks you'll like deep impact. They'll be like, oh, you know what? I've got some stuff I'm going to do around the house. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I do that a lot. And I think that Tron Legacy is, is perfect for that. I think deep impact is good. But I'll watch, say, some of me argue that Armageddon was the mid movie, well, I feel differently about that. I think that, that one's better. It's got all these big moments and music swelling and, yeah, there's something about it. Like it, that I really love and I know that one's divisive, but that's also kind of the problem with the, with all kinds of light and because Bruce Willis is going to dive through. Don't worry. You sure wasn't because those graham crackers were perfectly good food and you'd rather eat them than put them in somebody's belly button.

10:29Yeah. Sure, that wasn't it. Terrible. I know it was terrible. And you know, like I, I, I can't put Armageddon in this discussion because, you know, there's a criteria on collection version of it and all kinds of like people, people have written, papers and college about how, how to make a movie like Armageddon, whereas a Star Trek Insurrection right in the middle. Star Trek Insurrection. It's, it's a, it's a TV show basically. A perfectly watchable movie. Yeah. Yeah. It's it. Nobody, nobody hates it. Nobody loves it. I promise. I've been accused of loving Star Trek Insurrection and I'm like, no, no, I don't love Star Trek. I like it. Nobody, I promise, you know, nobody likes it. I just love that. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? No, no, I get it. That, that episode is basically, well, I see, it's basically an episode and it's a fine episode, but it ain't no movie. And it was certainly not first contact or even what it came after. It ain't no movie. But I noticed back to the Armageddon thing, just now, uh, Rotten Tomatoes has it at 43

11:30percent. Uh, 73 percent audience, obviously, there's a bit of a dichotomy there, but that 43, that's where I'm part of this is, is it a mid movie to me and part of this is, is accepted generally as a mid movie. And I would argue that that Armageddon is considered mid from a critical point of you. Yeah. Critics are like that, though. Critics are. They can be. Sure. Yeah. Some of these are, you know, yeah. You know, as I said, when we sacked Armageddon, I saw it five times in the movie theater, SD, SDDS movie theater was a brand new thing at the time and it was so exciting to go watch that movie over and over and, and, and the third and fourth time I went to see the movie. I noticed there were people in the film that I'd already seen in the movie theater with me on previous viewings there were, so there were probably people around me who had watched it 20 times. I don't even know. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, it was a, it was a good, good time. Yeah. I'm sorry. Critics are, let me, let me tell you something. Critics, critics aren't brave. They're not brave. They're not going to do anything. They're risk. Well, I mean, no, you're right about that.

12:32So that's partly why I like critics. I'm glad they exist because I don't want the bot, like if, if, if, okay, let me put it this way, if Brian had it worked for the times, New York Times, and you were film critic there, I would not knowing you. I would not, it would be hard for me to, to take your MCU movie critics scores. If they were all high, I would not be surprised what I'm trying to say. And I don't mean that you don't have the ability to tell when something has a problem or not. Sure. I do. Yeah. No, it's, yeah. You know what I mean? And I think we all do, to some degree. So that doesn't mean critics don't go in with a bias. They do, obviously, but some of them, because it's their day to day job, I do like that I at least get that angle on it. Like this sort of like, well, I'm not tied to this stuff like you people are, and I think it was dumb or whatever. I prefer that exists than not having it exists because in its place is a lot of noise from a lot of people trying to game the system. So I, I want to make that clear.

13:32I think critics are required, and I think that, that if we ever want to live in a world where it's nothing but review bombing, one direction or the other, I don't want that future. We need to have a future topic at one point in time, something that's close to my heart. I can't stand with critics, try to be clever. I'm like, if, if your first two sentences are clever on the title or something, I'm like, I don't want to hear your review. You're just trying to be funny. Yeah. Get out of my face. Not a fan, eh? Nope. I like the burbs, Brian Dunnoway's favorite A.I. comedy. Actually, actually, I was going to bring that up. So the burbs absolutely is a mid movie for most people, but I kind of feel like it's also kind of like how I felt about dirty dancing. It's only mid because it doesn't reach everybody necessarily. There's a certain, certain type of comedy that I think really appeals to me. This not a mass appeal and to, but then it grows though, right? Because now they got a frickin' show based on it. You don't spend that kind of money without the fan on the mid.

14:32Yeah. Right. So I also want to suggest that films that are maybe below mid can grow into midness over time and films that are above mid can definitely go down into it. And I think dirty dancing is a great example of that. I don't think the burbs is. I feel like the burbs is perfectly fine for the people who liked it. And with time, it's just occasionally someone who watches it who's never seen it before. But dirty dancing was probably a bit more for a lot of people at the time. It's huge. And over 35 years, it's kind of gone down, you know? And it's kind of like, it's kind of in the mid range. And it's less relevant. I think the relevancy of it was, well, it's the most important part because the people that was speaking to were still dealing with the damage of like abortion is a really big thing overbearing dads who are trying to really reel their daughters in and stuff

15:34that was happening during that time period. It's not as prevalent in our society overall as it was when dirty dancing first came out. Oh, yeah. No, for sure. So yeah. By the way, do you see in the new burbs thing? I was curious of you. I mean, I know. I've been, I haven't because I haven't had the time I needed to sit and watch it. I want to watch it. I don't want to just turn it on and miss it. But you do. You are. I mean, you're not one to get hung up on remakes. If it's bad, it's bad. It's good. No, it's good. It's not, it's not mine to own or to love or to hate. Like I just finally got around to a Starfleet Academy. Is that what's called? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I just finally getting around to that. And I was glad I sat and watched it because I had heard some things. And if I had just kind of just turned it on the background and not pay attention, I might not have liked it as much. And I sat and watched and was like, oh, okay, I see where they're going with this. And I like it. And the same with the burbs. I'm going to have to have a moment where I can be clear of the plate. Yeah. No, I'd like to, I'd like to suggest that sometimes in movie series,

16:36after the first one, the first one sets the idea of the series. So it's often really good or really bad. But after the first one, sometimes they'll rest her all a bit. And my best example of that is Pirates of the Caribbean. The first film. That's the good. That's the good. Yeah. Fantastic movie. And you might say, oh, but of the two, three, four, five, like four is really bad. Okay. Then just push that one out of the way. These movies as sequels are just kind of mad. You can just watch them. It doesn't matter. Yeah. They shine a little bit in places, but for the most part, it's just kind of, it's formulaic for the most part. Yeah. And there's nothing like I try and think of something memorable about one of the specific movies after the first one. And I can't. I couldn't tell you, oh, did that happen in, you know, uh, uh, uh, Davey Jones locker. Did it happen with the, I guess it was just called the cursive Davey Jones. What was the, what was the Davey Jones? Say you don't know why you asked for us. You know this is mid. You never figured out. Don't wait. I know this. On Davey Jones shores.

17:36Something like that. So it's, it goes. Uh, second one is Deadman's chest. Oh, that's right. The third one is at world's end. The fourth one is on stranger tides, and the fifth one is Deadman. Tell no tales. And there's a new one being made. Hopefully they fix it. Yeah. No, you don't. They are. Oh, okay. I like, I like all of them. It's fine. But you don't love them the same. Do you? Oh, I don't love them. No, no. I mean, do you like them? I love the first one. I do too. I think it's a perfect movie. I love the first one. But then you, you take the second one or third one. I don't care which and just throw it on. And you're going to be okay. You're not going to have a great time. You're not going to hate it. You're going to be just fine. You're going to be average watching one of those movies. And that's just, that's just such an interesting thing. The fourth one's torture though. It's so bad. Really? Oh, okay, God. So good. I'm talking about that one. But, um, you know, another one that came to mind was, um, all of those movies that were made by Wes Anderson, like, at some point they kind of run together, they don't run together.

18:38They're very different movies, but they all look the same and sound the same. Yeah. It's one of the downsides of being him, I think. Yeah. Yeah. And so like, I think you could, you could just pick one like life aquatic and go, that's mid. I'll watch it. I don't care. Yeah. I enjoy that one. But I wouldn't put it in his upper echelon, for sure. Mm-hmm. But I also, I also wouldn't, well, yeah, he's hard one. He's hard. He is the hard one. Yeah. Was it Astro City? Astro... The one in the... Asteroid City. Asteroid City. Asteroid City. I absolutely, other than the title, I can't remember. I love that movie. And it's the most Wes Anderson asked thing he had done for a long time. And then... But it's hard for me to go from that to say, Grand Budapest Hotel and say that anything compares to that. That is such a... Mm-hmm. Masterful thing. Yeah. Right. So once I felt like I really started getting what Randy was asking for, I felt like the Da Vinci Code. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah. Yeah.

19:38Merlot, man. Mid is hell, but also like Dirty Dancing is extremely successful. Yeah. You're very popular. Yeah. But it was mid. Yeah. Yeah. It was mid. And, you know, we sacked the Mel Gibson movie payback here a couple of years ago. Also, it's insanely mid. Like, I've never once heard a person say, that's my favorite movie. Yeah. No, but you and I have a... I know you and I, in particular, have a shared love for that movie, but I can't argue it isn't mid. It's mid. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's the same thing with Count to Monte Cristo. I over-index on that movie, but that doesn't mean I consider it good. I just... There's something about it that just like makes me... I don't know. Feel something. Yeah. Yeah. That's all we're looking for in life is to fill something. Yeah. Yeah. But no. Like, that's a great example. And I don't know... I don't know what that is. It's like... It's like music, too. Right, right a bit. Like, there's so much music you can call mid, but, you know, I love it. Sure. Yeah. For sure. There's, you know, a run of those later Bruce Springsteen albums that I think are mid

20:42after his 70s and early 80s stuff, like, as an example, or, man, I'm trying to think what I... What I call any of... It's... What I feel like any of crowded house or squeezes music to me is mid. Probably. There's probably an album here there. I mean, I think the brand new squeeze album that just came out two weeks ago is mid. It's okay. There's some good songs on there, but it's not nearly as good as the previous two albums. Yeah. And it's such a personal thing, too, but also... I don't know. Usually, the market will reflect it in the long run. I feel this way... I hate saying this because I just love them or him or it, but I love gorillas, but I think that new album, with a couple of exceptions, some really amazing songs on there, is kind of overall a pretty mid album. Yeah. And I hate that. I love that spark song. The spark song for me is great. That one is great. That one's... That's the best song on there. Yeah. Everything else is... It's a little weird and experimental. And fine, artists are allowed to... They should do those things. For sure.

21:43Explore whatever they can explore. But the one prior to that, Cracker Island was a freaking bomb, dude. I love it. From start to finish, so good. Yeah. So it's... I feel like this thing we're talking about. You can almost apply it to anything. It's... Anything pop culture. Anything TV shows and movies. The World of Warcraft expansions. Video games. Yeah. Right. Relationships. Could you compare it to really...? Yeah. It's really mid-girlfriends in the 80s. Yeah. I didn't know that. I think about it. Yeah. One way I tried to attack this topic was by saying, what if it... What if it won awards? Like, if it won Oscars, or if it was even nominated for an Oscar, maybe a movie isn't mid. And then, you know, like you just brought up a... Crazy man. Oh my gosh. Armageddon director. Oh, Michael Bay. Michael Bay. Yeah. You brought up Michael Bay. And I'm like, you know what's probably the most mid-Michael Bay movie is Pearl Harbor. Pearl Harbor was nominated for four Academy Awards. So I don't get to... I don't get to have this little attachment.

22:44Yeah. Pearl Harbor won an Academy Award. It was like audio or something, right? Yeah. It's best sound editing. Yeah. Which is... It's a worthy pursuit. I'm just saying it's not like when you're big. Yeah. It's like, how do I make the case for Pearl Harbor being prototypical of this? And I found a Roger Ebert quote. And I just... I love this quote. He said, Pearl Harbor is a two-hour movie squeezed into three hours about how on December 7th, 1941, the Japanese staged a surprise attack on an American love triangle. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. That's awesome. Yeah. See, this is also... I want critics to be around because I like the snarky retours. It was for sure. I mean, I feel like the Transformers films to me are all knit. Yeah. They don't step outside of your expectations, right? Yeah. This is what I expected. Yeah. I'll say the effect... The effects work way above its weight. Oh, sure. Everything else about Transformers way under and I don't know why there's an opportunity

23:45there. I don't know what happened. I'll never understand. You know what, and Randy and I talked about this yesterday and our boasters thing, but the sentimental value for me is a mid-movie that happens to be nominated for a few things. And we'll probably win best during a national feature over Secret Agents for the show. Yeah. It is a shame, for sure. Yeah. What did... Was Robin Hood Prince of Thieves ever nominated for anything, like music and stuff? Right. That felt... That felt really... Prince of Thieves, I felt like that one was... That was like every... You know what? A hundred percent. A hundred percent. That's... Brian Adam's song number one, but number two, that movie was a massive box office. Smash, it was the height of a costner's career. Yeah. I enjoyed the hell out of it and still do, but I'm never going to argue it's good. It's just not good, but I love it. And yes, it did get one Oscar nomination. Was it for the song? Yeah. Yeah, I was for Best Music Original Song. Sure. I'm doing it for you. And what's... Yeah. What's again, proving that you can get an Oscar nomination on literally anything you had

24:48a song that was produced by Mutt Lang. A Oscar winning? Yeah, Mutt Lang. All Mutt Lang things get nominated, but I actually kind of, I ironically sort of enjoy that song. I think it's a good slow dance song. I like it. Yeah. More like with it. It means something. It has a sentimental value to me that was during a relationship that wasn't mid, and yeah. Yeah. And midway through, you saw a movie that was mid, and then you guys both went to midway and watched mid... The battle of midway. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Overall, I think if you like movies, you're going to have favorites that fall all up and down the range. If you like movies, and I always want to hang around with people who like movies, who can give you all their reasons that justify the existence of the postman, even though it's like 10% on Rotten Tomatoes, and also people who can give you all the reasons why Donnie Darko is at like 91% on Rotten Tomatoes.

25:49It's like people who like movies, they're in the whole range. And this midsection has some really nice movies. They're not bad, you know? Like I really, I think Alien Resurrection is just perfectly mid, and you can watch it. Yeah. I can enjoy it. Yeah. I like resurrection. It's stupid as hell. But I love it. Yeah. Well, and that's the other thing is we, it's good to get outside of your, your, I don't know, your, your love of a certain franchise, like franchises versus single films. Sometimes we'll color how much worse or better we think of a movie, because if it lives like Empire Strikes Back, we'll revere it. It's like they have dead themselves. It's a better movie than the first one. But then there are times where a sequel is like on Deadman's chest, you're like, what the hell did you do? Where did the people go that made the good one? Like, and then you've a temple of doom, oh yeah, temple of doom, which, okay, here, that's a great one. Yeah.

26:50I unapologetically love Temple of Doom, but I'll never argue it's better than the other two and I'm not counting skull because skull is stupid and I haven't seen the new one. So if I'm just talking the original trilogy, can you call the new one the new one anymore because it's two, three years old? That's true. That's right. We got another one. We got another one. Got to watch Dallad Destiny. And Dallad Destiny is another good mid. Like it's, it's, it's, yeah. That's insane. I was glad they didn't blow it. That's how, that's, that's, that's right. That's kind of a blow it. Thank God. They're right. Yes. I just been nervous too. Should I just see her? I don't know. You should see it. Yeah. You absolutely should. Because Phoebe Waller Bridge is, is excellent and she, like if there's the potential of anything after this, I could see it being tied to her and I'd love to see it tied to her. Oh yeah. She's great. She's got a great character in this. Yeah. I'd watch her, I'd watch her chew paper and be fun. Speaking of paper, is Kevin, is Kevin Costner the, the mid actor? Everything? No. I've heard you guys say a whole bunch of Kevin Costner films. All right. You're getting dangerously close to Waterworld now.

27:52Here's the thing. I unapologetically lavish my love all over Waterworld, but I'll admit here on this episode. It's, of course, it's mid. Like it's mid. Sure. It's mid is hell, but it's one of my favorite mids and I'll watch that mid-ass movie any time. That's the value of a mid movie, right? It can be comfort food too. Yeah, but you got to remember too. He was always, he, he was in a lot of real prestige, just stuff too. Like, yeah, it's his big box office flop or whatever was famous at the time for that. But he was in plenty of movies where he was well regarded. He won Best Director and Writer for, um, and Best Picture for, uh, dances with bowls, John Dunbar. All that stuff. John Dunbar. Um, so yeah, by the way, that is one of my earliest memories of you done away as you sing John Dunbar. And as, as I get further away from it, the more mid it gets as well, because it was a huge impact on what I, what movie watching at the time, uh, in the style of the time. Yeah. And then it just kind of, it's kind of over the years.

28:53It's kind of become. The people think we've, we've should have sacked that by now. You're probably right, but it's also like four hours long or something. So, yes, it's a beast huge, but I like it. I do like it. Uh, alright, well, that puts us at about time. Um, we'd love to hear what you think, yeah, because there's, there's bound to be a bunch of movies that we're not even thinking of here, you know, oh, or which I, there was a, a whole series that I didn't even mention. Uh, I just want to quickly name five movies, all starring the same person, uh, that are, uh, I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. I got those movies are, I wonder if you're guessing what I'm about to say. Alright, let's see. Those movies are called live and let die. The man with the golden gun breaker for your eyes only in octoposing. Fair. Those five more James Bond movies are the definition of mid. Yep. I was thinking of Pierce Brosnan, uh, when I was thinking franchise, franchise films and

29:57what's the mid ones? I was thinking about all the Pierce Brosnan, but you know what, you're, you're not wrong with the Roger Moore five that you. Yeah. Did you say live and let dies part of that? I think I did. It's the first of the five mid ones. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'd go, yeah. A little higher on that. A little higher on that. I might start one after it. Live and let die. Okay. And I think Pierce Brosnan era was actually strong minus, well, no, I'm sorry, golden I was really fun and good and everything else kind of sucks. There. That's my style. I stop with octopussy because of you to a kill is it just doesn't ever make it up to mids. Yeah. It's below mid. Yeah. So it's just a great song. It is. It's just so interesting to me how I don't hate those. I don't hate those at all. I could watch one, but I'm not going to, I'm not going to like push for it. Yeah. My, my daughter just finished all of them. She got all the way done with the entire from 60s all the way to the latest, the last one from Daniel Craig and everything in between and I asked her.

30:59I said, so moon raker live and let die like where were we at with some of this octopussy whatever. And she's like, they're terrible, but we had so much fun watching those. Yeah. Yeah. It's, they're more comedic because Roger Moore is the, the, the, the straight man. The Dean Martin of James Bond. Yeah. Good way of putting it. Always the chicken nut stirred. He owned that as far as I'm concerned. For sure. Yeah. Cause he seemed like he might be drunk for the whole way he's drinking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They really felt that way. Yeah. I'm afraid it and this is on the Bose Bond movies because they're, it is hell and we all love them. And can I just, can I just say let's watch live and let die next week? I don't know. It's in our project. Yeah. Netflix got all the bonds for on loan from prime cause they own all that now. Let's see if my defense of that film is justified. Yeah. So coming up next week on film, like live and let die the first Roger Moore mid James Bond.

32:00Right. With the, the voodoo man, it's going to be fun. That's right. Nascar man. Yeah. What's his name? Jeffrey Holder. The seven up guy. Yes. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I'm excited. All right. That's next week. Watch for that. Thanks for sitting in with us today. Go to Filmsack.com for all the stuff you might need for me. For Brian, for Brian and for Randy. Yeah. See you next time. We did it. We did it. There's one place for the newest drops in wellness and performance and the biggest sale of the year. It's the drop by G and C curating the best of what's new hand picked by the pros who know what works. And right now get it all by one get 150% off during the semi annual live well sale. Some crushing workouts to leveling up to nutrition and everything in between get the best deals on the latest innovations.

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