Fantasy Football Risers & Fallers You NEED to Know Before Your Draft (08/31 Fantasy Football Podcast)

0:00This is Fantasy Football today from CBS Sports. Swat a play! Can you believe this? It's a no again. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. To the races, play stays at his feet. Just gotta go to the test. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Monday morning, August 31st. Welcome everybody to Fantasy Football today. Adam, Dave, and Heath here, Jamie joining us shortly. And we are going to follow up on the Josh Jacobs situation with some final thoughts at least for now. And give your risers and followers. Guess what? Marcia Unloyds, a riser, and Josh Jacobs. Follower, thank you very much for watching and listening, everybody. And we'll look at the latest average draft position as well. Heath, yes. You're not unfortunately joining it, not your fault, but you were not on the show last night, so I'm very excited to get your thoughts on the Packers Backfield. Heath, what are your thoughts on the Packers Backfield? I'm very excited to get these thoughts on the Packers Backfield. I'll say I was in bed when you sent me the text,

1:01and so it would have been unfortunate if I had been on the show last night. No, I basically will start considering Marcia Unloyds soon as the clock turns to round six. I think he is right in that group of borderline RB2s that have the upside to be a high-end RB2 and have a significant amount of risk. I don't really want to draft Josh Jacobs, but if we get to the double-digit rounds, and I'm looking for lottery tickets because my running back room is really weak, then I might take a swing on him because there's no guarantee. I mean, we might see him in half way through the season. So if we could just look on NFC where I can do the date range, just drafts from yesterday, and some of those are going to be before the news, some of them are going to be after the news, but it was 33 drafts. Josh Jacobs went 98th,

2:04and Lloyd went, let's see, as RB29, it's 70 and 80th overall. So that's... So I would say drop Jacobs around or two and move Lloyd up around or two, and that's probably where they're going to go today. Because like he said, some of those happen in the morning. Yeah, I don't think it broke until three o'clock or two o'clock or whatever it was. Okay, good morning, Jamie. I posted a poll if you'd like to know about when should you draft Marshal on the... When would you draft Marshal on the... Yeah, I think I'm going to... I think no one's going to agree with me here, but go ahead, yeah. First five rounds, 11%, this is of 2200 votes, says 11 hours ago. First five rounds, 11%, rounds six through eight, 56%, round eight or later, 28%, not drafting him 5%. Okay. I had a... Hi, Dave. What's up, dude? I know Dave wanted to share his thoughts on Caleb Johnson and Marshal on Lloyd.

3:07I do know that you are wearing the same shirt you were last night. I was. You know what, I'm glad you pointed that out. Oh, I like this shirt. And it... I think it looks good on camera. You know, it's different. I wear a lot of gray and blue and black and stuff like that. This is different. This is like kind of a... I don't know, tealish. All I did was wear it last night for the show. Like, I put it on for the 20-minute podcast and it took it off. So I was like, I'm going to re-wear it. I didn't know if anyone would notice. But nothing gets by Jamie. Have we met? Dave, what'd you want to tell us about Caleb Johnson? I have... First of all, I did not notice that you were wearing the same thing, but I also don't watch the video live. I went back and looked into my notes on both Caleb Johnson and Marcia Unloid. And I don't have a lot of positive things to say about Caleb Johnson. He's a gets what's blocked runner. Tight hips, not exists in elusiveness, doesn't create much. So-so vision. The strength of his game is physical, physicality. He's a definite fighter with the football.

4:08I didn't think he looked natural catching the ball. I don't think there's anything from the past year to suggest that anything's changed with him or his game. If you want to take him with a late round flyer, just in case he gets an opportunity at some point in Green Bay, be my guest. But he stands out as somebody who would be a definite backup behind Marcia Unloid if Jacob's doesn't come back and would split with Chris Brooks. I think Chris Brooks needs to be on the late round menu for everybody. And just one of those guys, double digit rounds, PPR leagues, half PPR leagues. He does have a track record of playing on passing down. I think he will take that role. And I think he's got a chance if Lloyd misses time. To eat into the rushing downs rule. And of course, I'm going to draft Lloyd first. And I'm not taking him as high as you are. I think he's like, round seven, eight. That's where I would take Lloyd. But I think Brooks is worth taking with a late round pick. And he's probably on the waiver wire on a bunch of leagues that have already drafted. So you could go to your waiver wire, see if he's there and pick him up before the season starts. Drop your last player and see what you get with Brooks to begin the year.

5:10And if Lloyd doesn't last that long, then Brooks could end up being someone that you could use as a flex in season. Okay. I'll just make one last point because if you want to hear more on this, we did a bonus podcast about 20 minutes where we talked about this situation in depth. You know, I'm willing to take Marshawn Lloyd. I kind of look at him like Beijel Tutan and Jardarian price, although I just thought to myself like, I don't know why I would take Lloyd over price. I like to pack his offense better than the Seahawks offense. But just extra urban days on the public list. So price has, that's not a surprise. But I probably should take price over Lloyd, but but whatever. That's kind of where I value him. And based on the rankings, I think it's kind of close to where he's in Jamie value him right around that time. Yeah. I looked at the players who were drafted around five and six last year and the year before based on fantasy pros average draft position. And I would say about a third of them were big difference makers. Last year you had my homes, you had DeAndre Swift.

6:11Jamison Williams, I struggled even putting that category, but he ended up, you know, pretty high in the rankings. Zay Flowers, Travis Kelsey, George Pickens, Rishi Rice. Those guys were drafted around five and six. Who else was DK Metcalf, DJ Moore, Cortland Sutton, Sam LaPorta, who was good. Xavier Worthy, Devante Smith, Teterola Mcmillan, David Montgomery, RJ Harvey, Isaiah Pateco, Baker Mayfield, TJ Hockinson, Calvin Ridley, Tony Pollard, Aaron Jones, Travis Hunter, Bonix, Jalen Waddle. Not all those guys were terrible, but some of them were just fine. And then the year before that is very similar. You had like CJ Stroud and Anthony Richardson in that group. Adult Unkin K8 and Kyle Pits and George Pickens when he wasn't that good. Zay Flowers when he was wide receiver 36 and you know, and there were some great players too. But I think what I'm saying is there's a pretty good chance your round five pick is going to be bad. It's just unfortunately, I hate to say that to you. That's just what history shows us. So I'm not afraid to take a risk on a guy that I think could be really good

7:12just based on his opportunity. And that's what I wanted to share with you this morning. Well, it's opportunity and offense. I mean, those are the things you're buying because you can't be buying Marshal Lloyd because he hasn't done anything yet and he has a terrible injury track record. So you're buying opportunity, you're buying offense. And if those two things come together with the player being slightly above average, then you're going to get a good return on investment. If he's continuing to struggle with injuries, it's a waste. If he's not the best guy, they've just alluded to maybe it's Brooks. Maybe it's Johnson. Then it's a waste. I got it. Going into it right now, there's a chance here for this player because of Jacob's situation. And as they've pointed out last night, like you may not be getting a full season of the situation because Jacob's could still play. So I think the price comparison is the most logical because of the sharpening a potential return. So like if you're looking at it as opportunity for both those guys is amazing.

8:16Team is potentially amazing. And there's this looming thing of for both of them, at least potentially another player that might be better than them coming back. Yeah, I guess the other point I wanted to make it, I think I made it, but it's just like if you mess up your fifth round pick, you're going to be okay. And I would love to take Lloyd in the sixth round, by the way. That would be my preference here. But you know, I don't think you have to take him in round five. I don't think, I mean, you certainly don't have to take him early in round five, but you might feel like late in round five when when Tudon comes into play that now might be the time. Oh, and I would guess we're going to get something from the Packers today that kind of lays out hopefully the questions are the right, but hopefully lays out what they're thinking from their back. I hope so. Whether whether it's Lloyd Johnson Brooks all competing, whether it's say we have full faith in Marseille Lloyd that he's going to be our guy, you know, it'd be nice if they came out and said this sucks for our team that we don't have our number one running back. We'll see if we get our number one running back back.

9:18But we feel very comfortable with this guy. Like don't just say the group, say this guy, you know, come out whether it's Gunkust or or the floor is saying we feel confident in Marseille Lloyd or we trade it for Caleb Johnson because we want him to be our guy like at least you know. Yeah, well, I don't think they're going to say the last thing. I don't think they're going to say that either. No, well, the only other thing I know about Lloyd is you can't triple stamp a double stamp. I think we've got a lot of good dumb and dumb or potential team names here if Lloyd really takes off. Now a couple of updates for you. If you're in the FFT open, you said we were going to talk about the passing game. I think that's very important for the Packer. Well, that's on our risers and fathers segment. The FFT open leagues is over 400 of you in it. So fab is going to start soon waiting for some of the other drafts to wrap up. And I think later on in the show, I'd like to just talk briefly about fab. And in that league, it's a little bit different. You can be a little bit more aggressive. But for those of you who don't know how to use fab, if you're doing whether you're FFT open or not, if you're doing fab for the first time, we'll talk about that briefly a little bit later.

10:20And for the leftovers league, our draft heath, you ready? Ready for our draft? We have to do this again. It's been such a, you know, I've been, I've been sharing a, sharing a team with Lewis and Joey's FFT open draft. And it's been such a pleasure to share a team with somebody that's not you. Yeah, I've, I've got the same thing going on with a couple of people I'm sharing leagues with. But yes, our draft is, I believe Wednesday night, do not send any more submissions. I will select the winners. This week? Yeah, it's this week. Oh, it's usually the Wednesday before the season starts. I know, but the season starts in October this year. So I got to do these drafts eventually. Anyway, please, your copy right infringement. Please tell me money. For what? Taking the name of my leagues. Oh, the leftovers league. It was thrust upon me. Anyway, please don't submit any more entries. I will pick them today and let you know if you want. And he's giving me a quick FFT dynasty plug. Yeah, we are ramping up for tomorrow.

11:21We've been going through talking about like which things actually matter. On Friday, we had breakouts to buy before the season begins. Cool. Marsha and Lloyd. Okay, let's get into the risers and followers brought to you by Woop, the wearable device that gives you personalized insights into your sleep recovery, your strain and how daily choices may be influencing your overall well-being. I know he's in Jamie. They've got their whoops on right now. And if you want to learn more, head to join.woop. WHOP.com slash FFT today. Join.woop. WHOP.com slash FFT today. Okay, risers and followers. I also have their ADP over the last week on NFC. So he's got Marsha on the way. We're good with that. We're good with that. We're exactly as you rank them. 61. 61. Where do you know where at RB? 25.

12:23Luther Burton. Boom. We're back. It's funny. I think I made reference to this. My first four managed redraft leagues. I drafted San LaPorta. I haven't gotten them since. My last three managed redraft leagues. I drafted Luther Burton. I picked 47, 49 and 50. I'm pretty much back where I was though. Earlier in the season at the 3-4 turn. I said whenever the round turns to round six, I will draft Marsha on Lloyd. As soon as it turns to round four, I will draft Luther Burton. Wow. Four. So that's going to be ahead of who, guys like Mcmillan and Garrett Wilson. Well, no. Mcmillan, I still have ahead of him. Burton, I have ahead of Garrett Wilson. Yes. I've got him ahead of Lad McConkey. I've got him ahead of Terry McClure and Tire for me than he is for other people. One of my followers we're going to talk about. I just kind of swapped these two guys.

13:24So I don't know if you made a reference or not. I've got one spot ahead of Jalen Wattell. Yeah, sure. And also, if you want to make a Devon Taste Smith versus Luther Burton bet, you can pick the terms. I have Luther Burton behind Devon Taste Smith. So are you saying you want to bet on Luther Burton to be better than Devon Taste Smith? Okay. There you go. Yeah. I'm just glad we got everything settled on the other bet. And so you're fully committed and there's no way you're ever going to back out. I find out. Totally a wife about it. So yeah, it's a thing. What did she say about that? As she wasn't happy, but is she going to let you do it? Yeah, yeah, just I don't think I don't think any of us are going to be happy about it. But really, it's a very logic. We're going to be really, we're going to be plenty happy about it. She's going to let him say he's going to do it for the next three months at the very least. Yeah. So the guys that I flipped in my rankings, I think I had eight them at 18 and 21. And now they're still at 18 and 21. But they just went back and forth. Luther Burton and Ameca Buka. I'm a little bit more concerned about a Buka's fitness early in the season that I am Luther Burton.

14:26And as we'll talk about with one of my writers, we can just connect this and I'll just talk about all my guys all at once for anybody else talks. Chris Godwin was moved up for me. Ameca Buka moved down. It sounds like with these older players, when you have the injury concerns, just the fact that they get two week one in good shape and looking good and looking like them old-tills is a little bit of a boost. So I'm feeling more confident in God when at least early in the season. So Burton, wide receiver 18, A Buka, wide receiver 21. God wins up to wide receiver 35. Okay, Dave and Jamie, I'm going to ask you who you like better, A Buka or Luther Burton, but I'm going to do that after we take a break. We'll be right back with more risers. And then Dave's going to talk when he gets to his risers. He will talk about the Packers passing game as well. And we'll talk about the fallers. Anything you need to know from preseason week three, a little fab talk. It's all coming up next on Fantasy Football today.

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17:27from now until January. So make sure you're checking out Woop for more head to Woop.com. Not over the whole shirt thing. I can't believe you noticed, Jamie. Very good. It's a good shirt. It's also not exactly the most muted color, so it's going to be very stand-out. Do you want to go change Adam? Would that make you feel a little better? I feel like I look like toothpaste right now. Okay, so a Buka versus the burden. He's got burden ahead. Dave, how about you? I still love a Buka head, but it's much closer than it was earlier in the off season. Remember before a Buka had the toe injury, I was all in on him. Thought he would break out and have a monster year, maybe even be this year's JSN. I suppose that's still possible, but I'm worried about the injury lingering. I think Godwin, I like Heath's call that Godwin is a riser. I think his ADP is criminal. He's healthy now. We know that he's got time in the bank with Baker Mayfield. Those two seem to be on the same page. I would expect Godwin and maybe even Ted Hurst and maybe even JLM McMillan.

18:32Maybe even the running backs to keep that target volume a little bit down for a meco Buka. I still think he'll be over seven targets per game, but I think eight is out the window. That being said, a Buka, like three spots ahead of burden in my receiver rankings. All of them, top 50. I've got a Buka, then Devante, then McLaren, then burden, and then Parker Washington. Don't forget about that guy, but they're all right there. It's like top 50 picks for me and PPR. I guess I'll get Jamie's thoughts in a second, but before a Buka's groin injury, which apparently he's back at practice moving well, the toe. No, no, I'm sorry, burden. Before burden's hearing. Oh, yes. Back at back. He has looking good. A Buka, by the way, they're hopeful for a week one for him. Did you have Adams and McLaren, Dave, ahead of burden? Yeah. Always. Yeah, okay. I don't know about always, but right now I do. I can double check and see where I had them.

19:32I'll come out to get back in 15 seconds. And Jamie, look at those pictures. You guys just fresh out of college, those pictures. The picture of me was taken yesterday. No, uh. Yeah. Dave looks exactly the same. I don't know what you're talking. I was born this way. The two things that are the same are Dave's mug shot face, everything, since I met him and Adam was the same shirt every day. Yeah, true. All right, Jamie, a Buka versus burden. Now that Burns back at practice, I would take, back at practice, I would take burden. Okay. All right. Okay. And I had Adams ahead of burden all off season long. Heath, did you see my tweet about Chris Godwin? No. Okay, let's take a look here. This is the me dancing gift. Has it never knew what this gift was for? But now I know it's for when I'm able to draft Chris Godwin 98th overall in a PPR league. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, baby. Why do you say it the wrong way? Yeah, I think, uh, so I've got a new thing. Okay.

20:32No, I'm the way it is. Every time I know, don't say gif. No, every time you do something like this, I'm just going to move you to the bottom of the screen. Okay. Let's get back to your, well, no, Godwin just to finish up on that right now over the last week. Godwin's going 71st overall in between car and L. Tate and Cortland Sutton. Do you guys like Godwin better than those guys? Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I do, but I, at 71st, it's a little, I haven't quite caught up today yet. He's around five pick for me. Whoo. Around five. Wow. Around six for me. But by the way, that's why I received her 33. I don't know where he is in your rankings. But he's 30th for me. Okay. All right. And then Alec Pierce and Quentin Johnston, who are both over the last week on NFC, they're going about wide receiver 37 to 39. So right around DK Metcalf, Michael Pittman, Josh Downes, Michael Wilson, that group for Alec Pierce and Quentin Johnston.

21:34Why are they risers and who do you like better? So Alec Pierce is back at practice. And again, I'm not quite as optimistic that he's going to take on this massive target share this year as there were some speculation earlier this summer, but he is healthy. And he should be, we kind of dropped him out of the top 100. He's firmly back in the top 100 right now. I actually have it ranked Godwin, then Pierce, then Quentin Johnston. And no, I'm not just raising Quentin Johnston because of one monster play. Although that was really cool. I was really encouraging to me. And it's just, listen, we're nibbling at whatever we can get right now. But when they went to 13 personnel with Justin Herbert on the field in that game, Quentin Johnston was the wide receiver on the field. And I don't expect it will be the same guy every time they do that. And they're not going to do it as often as the Rams do. But I do think that that's a very good sign that when they did that in this game, he was on the field to at least be part of the plans in 13.

22:36Okay. Yeah, that was 64 yard touchdown to Johnson. Was definitely a note to chiefs fans. You all better watch out this year. A note to chief fans. Coming. There's a question from the chat from Gray matters to me. What is the metric that they are leaning on burden so much? Where did Adam go? I can't buy it. The best, I think the best metric is that last year, amongst wide receivers that had at least 50 targets, he was third in yards per route run and the two that were better and than him were JSN and Puganakua. And then when you say, well, yeah, but it's only 50 targets. Well, DJ Moore and Alameda Zikias combined for 150 targets and they're gone. So he's not going to get 150 targets and have the third best yards per route run. Probably, but he might. All right. Yeah, he's really talented guy and.

23:36And his coach loves him. Yeah, okay. And I think he was second. Jacob Gibbs has a really good yack stat on Luther burden too. I think he may have only been second only to Rashi Rice in that metric. And as we know, rice has like a running back area yards share. So yeah. And I have a good yack that Dave, as we go into your risers here, it's about Christian Watson. So Christian Watson, since he entered the league, he averages 4.8 yards after the catch per reception, which is amazing with a 16.1 yard ADIT. In that four season stretch, Watson has the highest yack per catch of any wide receiver with an ADIT of more than 14 yards, which is only 15 wide receivers. But it's just what he does. He I think he's fifth in yards per target since 2022. So so efficient. So you think all of the packers other than Josh Jacobs are risers, Dave. I do. And I really am excited about the passing game.

24:37And I move Tucker Kraft into the round five range because I think he's just an easy short area target for Jordan love to lean on if the run game cannot get going. Or if they want to just have a change up and we know what what craft means in terms of efficiency for that offense and for his own numbers. And it sounds like he's going to be ready to go. And maybe there isn't going to be a limit on just how many snaps he plays to begin the season. So he's the one that I moved up not necessarily the most, but the one that would get the most attention because I think he's a top 60 player. I didn't move Watson up that much, but I had him up pretty high. Anyway, he's a borderline number two, number three wide receiver. Gold in his somebody I'm very excited about if he's taking over the Romeo dobs role. And if Romeo dobs had the highest target per out run rate for Jordan love when there wasn't Josh Jacobs on the field over the last two years, then certainly there's an opportunity here for Matthew golden to have a big role. I'm a I'm pretty bullish on him as like a round eight type pick. Is golden taken over the Romeo dobs role or is Christian Watson moving into the Romeo dobs role

25:42and goldens taking the field stretcher Christian, Christian Watson role? I think it could be a mix of both of those things. And I think a lot of teams are going to try and do that with their top two receivers is mix and match what they're capable of doing and not anybody is going to be just an X or just a Z. And I do think that golden's just going to have an opportunity. I think both those receivers should be able to get north of six targets per game. But for Watson as long as he's healthy, he could be around six and a half. And this whole team could throw more and six and a half could be low for Watson and six targets per game could be low for Matthew golden. If you're watching on YouTube right now, I abs like this is exactly the dilemma for anybody using numbers trying to project my Matt LaFloor wide receivers because if you look at the CBS projections, it's it's 88 targets for Christian Watson and 77 for Matthew golden. It's probably about 90 for Tucker craft. But I mean, it's torched because it's a completely

26:43different offense now. He's or not completely different, but it should be it's going to be altered if they can't run the football or even if they can run the football a little bit. They're going to have to come off of it. The last March on Lloyd is as good as Josh Jacobs is back. You have a run game that suspect you have a defense that might not be as good to start the season. And you have all this talk about maybe putting more on Jordan Loves play before all this happened. And so now you're looking at it as we've been waiting for concentrated targets for this receiving core. Yeah. And you're taking away 135 from last year. So I think even if you just give those three guys four guys, you know, with the Tucker craft, those four guys just increased opportunities. I don't think to his point. I don't think we're getting 120 plus for maybe even one guy, but I think you're going to see opportunities increase for all of them. And hopefully they're just as efficient. For me, I go back to 2023 when Jordan Loves was a good fantasy quarterback and you had a defense that wasn't great. And you had obviously a run game that wasn't great because that was last time as Dave referenced last couple of times we talked about this the last six of seven years that Matt LaFour has been the head coach. The run get there. A running back has been good. Well 2023 was

27:46here that it was not good. I'm not good. And Aaron Jones found season. My favorite Packers receiver based on cost is Jaden Reed by a mile. And I love him. He's my favorite sleeper after all this stuff is unfolded of any position because the value that he is right now is probably going to rise because I think everybody's going to recognize that they're going to throw more. But love him better than love him a lot better than a lot more than Golden. I think there's a huge opportunity for him because as we saw when he was healthy, he's going to get carries now. And so that's going to be I think a big plus for his profile, which is what we saw in 2023. If he stays healthy, that's a big thing for him. If he stays healthy because he has a hard times thing healthy. His last 23 games where he's had at least five targets, very small number, at least five targets. 13 and a half PBR points per game or more in 15 of those 23. Wow. And he averages 16.1 PBR points over that span. Give him opportunities. He is going to smash. He is going to destroy his ADP. I'll do you one better on that. So in 10 career games with at least six targets, 10 plus PBR

28:47points in all 10, 13 plus and six of the 10. Seven career games with seven or more targets, 15 plus PBR points in six of the seven. And Green Bay, I went back and looked at every single one of these games. They had a hard time running the ball in six of those games. And Jayne Reed just was able to pick up some of the slack. So I talked about Tucker Kraft being one of those guys. And I do believe that Tucker Kraft can be one of those guys that can help alleviate some pressure on the run game. Reed is the other one. And if his ADP, where is his ADP now guys? If it's really low, then Jamie Spod on the spot on. I mean, maybe he's even a little worried if you leave. I'll tell you what it was yesterday on NFC was. Please. Wide receiver 43 91st overall. Oh, that goes. That goes pitman. Yeah, but they're very wide receiver heavy for what it's worth. Pitman, Josh Downs, DeJean Stribbling, Jayden Reed, Wandael Robinson, Matthew Golden. Yeah. I see one 16 on fantasy pro. I'm just going to say one other thing. And this is the poo poo.

29:50But that that 2023 season that Jamie talked about. And I think that might be the answer is just move Jordan love up. Maybe maybe I need to look at that. I would take Jordan love over Patrick Holmes right now. Oh wow. Yeah, I could see that. But that 2023 season, Jordan love through 579 passes. We would freaking love that of those five of those 579 passes. Romeo Jobs led the team with 96 targets. Then Jayden Reed had 94. Then the two tight ends combined for 86. Then the wide receiver three at 58 and three more guys had 40 to 50. Who are the three other guys that 40 to 50? Don Tavian Wicks. Aaron Jones. I'm sorry, there's two. Okay, and those are the two. And then there were there were three other guys that had 20 to 30. So are we are we maybe not going to see the consolidation that we thought between I don't know what I hope so.

30:52Gold and I mean look they just add they just add John Smith. And we know he's a past catching tight. That's that's another piece of this that we hate. But it's going to be a problem. That's the poo poo. This is the poo poo. And you know our guy Brandon Howard, he's been drafted and saving on Williams for years. Wait a second. Yeah. I don't know. Johnny Smith is going to be I mean, I'm hoping that they must gravest hurt right aren't two of their tight ends hurt right now. I'm not I'm just I'm just saying names that are going to be to heat's point like they they use other bodies. That's kind of been the M.O. here, which is the the issue. So I agree with he I think Jordan love is going to be great. At the same time Matthew go on the first round pick that they have to sort of justify and get going a little bit. They just pay Jayden Reed this off season. Tucker craft was amazing to start last year. So there's there's things here that should work. And again, hopefully we'll get opportunities increased opportunities individually, but also collectively to Jordan loves benefit because as noted last night, this division is awesome now from an offensive standpoint. This is not a black and blue division anymore. This is if

31:56the Vikings offense is what it could be. The Lions offense is great. The Bears offense is great. Packers have to keep up. Yeah, and they got a big test week one against Minnesota. Yep. They were 15th and pass attempts that year before they got Josh Jacobs. So yes, they spread it out a lot. But like can you can you post Dan? I don't know how to the whole thing there at the bottom. Yep. Um, you're not going to want to leave because of golden or read. You are correct. You are that's why they're called sleepers not breakouts. Yeah, however, every year we get a handful of guys who are drafted around nine or later, which is pick 96 or later that it finished in the top 24. Not going to necessarily win you your league. But Brian Thomas Jr. probably won you your league a few years ago. Right. But if Watson hits, he's a league winner. I mean, you just you've seen that enough. Jayden Reed just and I agree because and Watson's at least showed last year he can get a 28% target per hour run rate or whatever. Um, Jayden Reed since 2022 and Watson entered the league. Jayden Reed in 2023. Jayden Reed is leads all wide

32:58receivers in fantasy points per target. And Christian Watson is third because of his Russia attempts. No, fantasy points per target. Do you think that counts the Russia attempts? I think it's probably counting the fantasy points he scored on Russia's. Oh, okay. I'm not sure. But, but he's, you know, but he also scored like he scored like 13 touchdowns as first two seasons or something like that last year. He only had one end zone target. But before that, he was, you know, fairly involved and um, and he is going to rush the ball. As Jamie said, like he is really good at it. He is the one I'm willing to overpay for. He's the second most rushing yards since he entered the league among wide receivers. I believe behind depot Samuel. Um, all right. So let me get throw out some names then. Uh, would you rather have Josh Downs or Jayden Reed? Jayden Reed. I don't tire. Josh Downs. Well, well, well, if it's not PPR, it's read. Okay. Let's just say half PPR. Uh, which would you rather have, um, Wando Robinson or Jayden Reed? Jayden Reed. What's the format? Oh, Jayden Reed for sure. It's a half PPR. Oh, uh, give me one deal.

34:02Stribbling or read? Jayden Reed. Okay. Same questions. Downs, Stribbling, Wondale or Matthew Golden. All those guys over Golden. Now I got Golden ahead. Downs, Golden, Stribbling, Wondale. Okay. Okay. Uh, back to Dave's risers. Oh, uh, there was also that one stat I gave on, I think, um, sports network a couple weeks ago. Jordan Love last year when the Packers allowed 20 year more points. He scored 21.7 or more fantasy points in six of eight games in six point per passing touchdown leagues. However, the year before that, he only did, he only was good in three of eight games where they allowed 20 or more points. But you get to gist. When he throws, he's going to be good. Um, all right, Dave, who's next on your risers and followers list? They have a thousand things open here. You have Jayden Daniels? Sure. Yes. Thank you. Jayden. No, he's a riser.

35:02Shouldn't be. He's a follower. Okay. How about Jared Goff? He's already flipped flopped on your notes that you said before. I don't think I put Daniels as a riser on my notes. Pretty sure. I just copied and pasted. But you have that Jared Goff. Let's check the tape. Please, gentlemen, let's check the tape. I'm looking right now and seeing. I was going to move Dave, but he's already on the bottom. So yeah, Daniel should have been a follower. He's, I'm less excited about Daniels. That's my bad. That's what I put him right ahead of Jared Goff in the risers, like an idiot. That's what I get for sending notes before I get in the office. All right. What are we talking about now? Jared Goff. Good. Troid offense looks great. There's been a lot of positive stuff really in the last week or so on Jamison Williams. I think that there's going to be somebody's on the clock. There's there's a there's a good buzz about this offense. It's overall where obviously drafting St. Brown and Gibbs high, Jamo high, Sam Laporta high. The defense has a great player and Aiden Hutchinson and everything else is kind of just decent. They could be in a lot of shootouts. We've talked about how many games are going to play indoors. Jared Goff is a top 12 quarterback

36:06for me now. So I'm happy to take it. Oh, dude, it's great. I just I just wish I could find room in my top 12 for Purti also, but there's just so many quarterbacks that are that are really exciting and it just leads to waiting and finding that good value like we've talked about for the last six months. So Goff is absolutely in the range of cubies to look for late. Would take him ahead of Matthew Stafford now and could easily see him having one of his best years ever. Okay. So Goff, yeah, that's kind of where he's going in between Stafford and Purti on NFC over the last week. Yeah, brother. I've him them both. Let's try to fire through a couple more before we take a break here. Remondre Stevenson over the last week on NFC. He's RB 27. He's in but he's just after Travion Henderson. So it goes Travion Henderson, Remondre Stevenson, Jonathan Brooks as RB's 26, 27 and 28. He's around six pick and I'm actually very comfortable with him as an RB 2 to settle for when I get to that point of Jaddarian price, David Montgomery, Basel II and he's in that group

37:11and he's ahead of March on Lloyd for me. He's ahead of Jonathan Brooks for me. The Steelers running backs. There's just too much good stuff about him and not enough good stuff about Travion Henderson and I'm no longer worried about Remondre Stevenson fumbling and losing his gig. I think he's going to be the one A for the Patriots for the foreseeable future. The fact that they added AJ Brown means that safeties can't play up on the line like they did last year should open up for better efficiency for Remondre Stevenson. I like getting him. I don't mind even early round six in full PPR. I'm sorry. Can I just go completely off subject for a second? Is this about me putting Jayden Daniels as a riser? No. I'm just like you just put up on the screen. I'm sorry if you're just listening and out watching Remondre Stevenson is a riser in CBS ADP's up to 74th overall. He's up five spots. Harold Fanon is up 11 spots over like a full round over the weekend. And now at the sixth seven turn ahead of Tucker Kraft and Kyle Pitts who is falling like a

38:15lead balloon good job Dave. Good job to a good I guess good job to a. But I just thought like we none of us want to draft Harold Fanon there. No. Not even me. And that was the fan and guy earlier this off. You got you got to remember sometimes what auto picks do to this. Yeah. Based on what projections are. And people that are now drafting and drafting and looking at it for the first time. And oh man Harold Fanon won my league last year. Why would I not take him and don't know that Casey Concepts you know and Denzel Boston are going to be an issue for Fanon and oh man. Kyle Pitts guy he burned me so much. I'm not taking him again or the people that have been watching too ago. I do I really want this offense like yeah I had somebody in a 10 team league last night draft. Bees on Robinson and Drake London and I was like oh I don't know if I want to be in with both of those guys like they're awesome. It's going to be PENIX though like it if two is bad it'll be PENIX. We hope it might be PENIX week one anyway. We hope like Kyle Pitts having an amazing preseason. I'm actually getting nervous. That's great. But it's not about perception.

39:19It's not about what you what what we say because how many years have we said in a row 15 plus 20 years don't drive quarterbacks early and it's finally happened. So like people just do what they do. All right we got a lot more risers and followers to get to. We have something more important though. Heath is on the clock. This team. Yeah. Bees on. Bowers picking from the two spot. Bees on Bowers. Olave. Tenerola Mcmillan. 47th overall. That's good. Luther Birdon. So running back tight in three receivers. Tony Pollard as his RB two. Marvin Harris and Junior as his wide receiver four. And you have a partner here. So I know you can't make the pick but what do you want the pick to be? So if I was making the pick it would be RJ Harvey. My partner I think is wanting to take Chuba or Aaron Jones or Richelle White. So I mean whatever he wants to do. But I think he's

40:20probably just draft the guy. The interesting thing is we don't have a quarterback yet either. Obviously I'd love to take Brock Purtie but they're still four good quarterbacks left. Joey Wright right behind us has a kind of similar build with Gibbs, Travion and Jonathan Brooks. This is running backs. So he's probably they're looking at two running backs and a quarter rack. We are looking at two running backs or a quarter back. So it's a it's a big big moment in the draft year. Yeah. Well that didn't help that seven of the previous eight picks for running backs. Not great for you. We'll take a break and get to more risers and followers when we come back. Back to Dave Richards, risers, Najee Harris real quick. Super late round pick. I think he's going to end up being the guy behind Camp Scataboo in New York. And I'm starting to get very afraid that the giants are just going to make this a muddled backfield where there isn't one guy that you can look at and say okay he's the one A. I think it's going to be mixing and matching all year long until injuries slash bad play weed out players from being

41:23impactful. And for what it's worth, Najee's look good. He looked good in the joint practices. It's Miami reports after that practice say that Najee's look good. We saw him in the preseason. I think that he's worth a late round fly or just a stash on the bench. See what happens the first few weeks of the year. Crystal Lava is a riser for you right now on NFC over the last week. He is wide receiver 11 in between Nico Collins and Malik neighbors. Is he top is he 11th for you? Yeah, where is he exactly? I know that he's a number one wide receiver for me. I've got him at nine. So I've got him ahead of Nico. I've got him ahead of Pickens. I've got him ahead of neighbors. I have him ahead of Rice. Just fully expect him to begin the year dominating the target share for New Orleans. This is one of the teams that we've identified all along is suspect defense really good offense. We know that they're going to play the fast pace. We know that shock was great for Olave when Shuck went under center last year. I think that yeah, maybe I'm drafting Olave a little bit too close to his ceiling if he's in round two, but I think he can get there again. He's a really good wide receiver talented arm finally throwing to him and not a ton of competition for targets there.

42:28And I don't know when Jordan Tyson's going to come back. How soon he'll be acclimated into the offense and how serious of a threat he'll be to take away a number of targets from Chris Olave. Okay. You're the high guy in Olave at nine. Heath and Jamie have him 11th behind Nico Collins behind. Do you guys have him as a round two pick or do you think that that's scoo-coo? I got him at 22. 24. Okay. So I'm a little bit ahead of you guys on him. Fine with it. I mean, look, that whole group of receivers, it's it's such a basically who you like best versus like arguments for and against because you can make so many points on either side that makes sense. And so I think when it comes down to his like when Jordan Tyson returns, which is such a gamble at this point, how much does that impact Olave? Because we really saw what his numbers were last year with Raheed Shaheed who I think we could all agree Tyson's a better player that should be a better player than Raheed Shaheed. I hope so. When he was basically a solo act, he was, as you said, a monster. Can't he continue to do that if Tyson plays? Okay. Next up is Parker Washington.

43:33He is currently he's a riser for Dave. He's currently wide received for 26 over the last week on NFC in between Christian Watson and Terry McClure. I have a problem. I can't stop drafting Parker Washington. And he's been like on that round five six fence for me all off season. And now he's starting to get close to the round four or five fence, which is nuts. But I really love the outlook for him. I think he's going to lead the Jaguars and targets, catches yards, touchdowns. I'm not 100% sure on, but usually if you're getting a lot of looks from the quarterback, you're going to find your way into some touchdowns too. Maybe you only get six on the year, but could have 80 catches and like 1100 yards on top of it. I'd be really excited about that. Yeah, let's let's try and get him in round five and not round four. And even better if you can get him in round six. And just the best receiver to get in Jacksonville. He's one of those guys that I've tried pretty hard not have a take on all season because I think it's because it's going to be hilarious either way.

44:35It's either going to be like, how did you miss all of these signals? He's obviously a star or LOL. How did you fall for this? Yeah, I feel like we could say that about like a dozen receivers this year. I mean, I think Lither Bird probably won there too. Yeah, but I agree. A little, a little better pedigree for Luther Burton. Yes, I agree. And Washington, you know, there was a report that Travis Hunter has been playing almost exclusively defense over the last two weeks. Just good for washing. It was that way in the joint practice against Tampa too. How would you rank these three players? Cam Skataboo, Christian Watson, Parker Washington. I've got Washington ahead of them all. I have Skataboo next Watson after that. Really close between Parker and Skataboo. Jamie, he all within 10 picks for me. Same. Yeah. I'm in that same thing. And Burn the head of them all. The names again, I'm sorry. Skataboo Watson, Parker Washington. Who am I drafting for? Yeah.

45:38That's the always those Skataboo, but it's Watson and Washington right after. The John Striblings, the riser for Dave. Yeah, he has been all training camp long. The reports out of San Francisco were good. The preseason film was good to very good. And you just can't help it feel like he's got a locked in role as an outside receiver in this offense where he's sharing the field with a bunch of older receivers who are definitely capable of either being inefficient or breaking down. And I just love the idea of drafting them late. I'm not one of these guys that's reaching for him in round seven or round eight. I saw a league where he went in round six that put my jaw on the floor. I think he's more of like that round nine type of target in that same range for me as Jayne Reed ahead of Kelsey in that same range with Coker and Diggs and Downs. Like a good bench wide receiver, you're just going to have to be a little bit patient with him. And if you see him after that, then get him and put him on your bench. And I think you give him

46:39a month. And if he ends up playing a lot for the 49ers, maybe without a huge target share, you just hang on to him. So Lewis was tuned into the show when I told him we were talking about the pick and picked RJ Harvey. So I hope that I don't end up feeling bad about that. Trade Tucker, Dave is why receiver 59 right now. They're round flyers. Nothing more than that. Don't have to feel compelled to draft him. But I think he's going to be the best receiver in Las Vegas and the second best target getter in that offense. Do you like him better than Denzel Boston and or Jacobi Lane? Definitely over Lane. And I believe I have him over Boston too. Okay. K-Shon Booty. Do you like trade Tucker or K-Shon Booty? Tucker. All right. Booty. Booty sets up to be the number two target getter in Houston. We know that Jayne Higgins is out for the year. You can take the top off the defense. And another player who was who's looked really good, honestly, the last two training camps. And he wasn't necessarily a

47:42big target getter in New Orleans and New England, excuse me, last year. But they moved on from him because they didn't want to pay him. And now Houston's got him. And I would imagine in a contract year, he'll have opportunities to ball out. Booty or Schultz getting more targets. What do you think? Schultz. Schultz might get more, but he's not going to do much with them compared to K-Shon. Chris Bell. All right. Welcome back. Chris Bell. He played in the preseason game and quick recovery from that ACL. And even deeper late round pick. Like I'm obviously going to take Tucker and Booty ahead of Bell. But I love the long view for Bell in an offense where there isn't really a wide receiver that's stepping up. I still don't think he's at his like where he was at Louisville. But you could see and it's amazing because like the ACL injury man, people are coming back from that. And it's not necessarily a big deal. Like his acceleration is still really good. And this is a giant wide receiver. So I could see him. You might have to wait till November. But I could see him

48:44becoming a thing for this dolphins offense. Probably of all the receivers that we've said in the last four minutes, the guy you don't have to draft, but can pick up off waivers when you've got a dead roster spot. Okay. Chris Bell for the dolphins. We'll go to the fallers now and we'll go to Heath's fallers first. Josh Jacobs who, yeah, you said double digit rounds, right? Yep. And I don't really want to there. Ashton Genty. Over the last week, he still R.B. 11 going 18th overall in between Ken Walker and Derek Henry. Where do you have Ashton Genty? So I moved him. I had him at the two three turn. And I just, I think Jamie said this last week that he did not want to draft him in round two. And I moved him back to that group of running backs that I have at the three four turn. So HN and Kyron and those guys, I understand if you want to reach higher, but I do kind of believe that Mike Washington has shown enough and camp in the preseason to where there's a less of a chance that we're going to get workhorse Ashton Genty.

49:45Okay. Would you take Genty or Zay flowers? Oh, come on. I take Devonte Smith over him. Okay. That's crazy. All right. Genty or Tremac bride? I've got my bride. I have been bride two spots ahead right now. Make bride. Okay. Other followers for Heath, Ameka Buchen, and we talked about and Orande Gadsden. They do not draft him. Not draft him. He's, I think he's might be their third titan. All right. Well, that's it for Heath's followers. Jacob's Genty, Ameka Buchen, and Orande Gadsden. I'll throw out some of Buchen names for you. Buchen Joe. Give that one last year. But Abuka or T Higgins? T T. Yep. Abuka or DJ Moore? Moore. I've settled on more. Still Abuka for me. Okay. Dave, let's go to your followers.

50:47You are pretty low on the Titans. And I think I know why. Yeah. I don't think they really need an explanation on this. The offense hasn't looked good since their first drive. Although the reports out of their joint practice against Chicago suggested that cam ward and carnaltate finally clicked. But I'm, I just don't want to, I don't really want to be involved with any of these guys. Maybe Wondale and full PPR. But outside of that, like, give me, give me carnaltate if it's around eight. Where are you guys taking Tony Polard? I've got them in round eight. I don't want to get, I don't want them. Yeah. I'm going to have to put a block on Tony Polard for a week because I drafted him too much lately because of these teams where I end up with the anchor running back. And then you want the guy who's probably going, the last guy who's probably going to be a starter. And it's always Tony Polard. Yeah. So, but you like Lloyd better than Pollard, right? Yes. Okay. What about Jalen Warren and, and Rico Dattle? I still have Pollard higher. Okay. I don't, you know, the thing is I don't really know that there's

51:53been much difference between the way Pollard and Spears have been used this preseason compared to the way Warren and Dowdell have been used this preseason. We've seen a lot more from the Titans than the Steelers. But I've been a little bothered by how involved Spears has been. I do think Pollard is clearly the starter, but there's been a lot of Spears out there. All right. Yeah. Anyway, Jane Daniels is a faller, Dave, from what I understand. He is a faller. I'm nervous about where the commander's offense is going now because of the offensive line. I'm hoping that they can get most of that line healthy, but a huge question market left tackle. Much rather have Jalen hurts at this point. Whereas two weeks ago, they were back to back for me. Okay. You know, if you look at the NFC ADP for Jane Daniels, he's going after Caleb Williams. He's going after Justin Herbert. Yeah. I think going after Justin Herbert is the right move. Wow. This guy could rush for 900 yards. That's the thing. You want upside

52:54position. Yeah. Yeah. But Herbert can run a little bit too. And he could throw for 35 touchdowns. Yeah. All right. I mean, I think we're going to have to maybe tomorrow we'll do like a, maybe we get a sponsor for it, like a dip, you know, by the dip. Yeah. Because there's a lot of guys who are getting some negative press whether it's their own injuries or the tonsil injury whatever. And some of them are going to crush ADP because it happens all the time. Luther Burton. Yep. That's a great call. Burton's one of the things I'm buying the dip on day Daniels for sure. Like I won that. I won. Billing person. Yeah. One billing person. Yeah. I mean, I think about it with everybody. It's like a booka. Could they all could they all just end up being really good values? It could, but that position specifically because if you miss, there's so many other options. Yeah. Yeah. And what, so where do you guys have them? I've got them an early round seven now. Jane, they have not moved in at all. Round six. Nope. Okay. Okay. Was that QB five? Totally get it. Coming from QB five. I've got them QB four. All right. Yeah. Not crazy. Dave is dropping cam scataboo. And you know, I get it. Okay, where do

54:00you have him now? Round five. But like, but amongst two, Judkins ahead of them. And then he's currently ahead of Price Montgomery, Tutan. And then a big drop before you get to Ramadre Stevenson and Marshawn Lloyd. I think I'd rather ever remind Ray than him right now. Yeah. I'm getting close to that too. It's just it's hard to justify scataboo. He's been around five for me for a few weeks, but it's like hard to justify him over some of these other guys that are in time shares, that are in offices that could be just as good if not better. Like, I just don't know how much of a time. I don't think he's going to be a playing on third downs like he did last year. That's kind of a chance. But I mean, less a third and one. I mean, I understand, you know, Naji Harris has looked good. Where Naji Harris, we know who Naji Harris is. And he's coming off a tornick at least. If cam scataboo is not so much though about Naji Harris, though, it's the whole collective. I don't think they're going to matter. I mean, I just if cam scataboo can't beat those guys out. Devon Singletary better not take cam scataboo off the field. You know,

55:02time. But you see, I don't know. You hear me say this all the time. We think these guys suck. Coaches love when guys do think the small things the right way. What does cam scataboo do? Does he fumble a lot? I mean, he doesn't. He tried to take out his own defenders. Like, I mean, that puts his coaches off. Well, that's that's there's been different counts of that as you saw. Well, when he called them an infectious disease because he obviously did something to cause an issue of practice. However, you want to slice it up, whether it's the one report about he's been pissing them off for a while or the one report about just that he did it that day. He obviously has done something to annoy his coach and annoy his defensive players and maybe not do everything right in meeting rooms or whatever. And they just say Devon Singletary is a veteran that does this. And Naji Harris is a veteran that does that. What did Naji do his entire career? If they never fumble. If the you know what? As a Giants fan, if they start playing Devon single Terry over cam scataboo, I'm just going to have to pick a new freaking team. Okay, you said that's going to be what I mean,

56:04two minutes. No, that's two minutes. Two minutes. Two minutes. Two minutes. Two minutes. Two minutes. Two minutes. Two minutes. Two minutes. Two minutes. Devon Singletary. Yes. But yeah. That's what's fun. Like if you look at their talent and their personnel, it cam scataboo has to be. I think short yardage will be Naji. No, I'm not sure. Why would you not cam scataboo is the man in short yardage? You cannot tackle this guy. That is his best thing. And by the way, I don't have I don't think I've drafted scataboo once in a real league. Like I have not I have been out on scataboo. But if he's going to start following like a full round later because he was around four pick, we start talking middle round five. Because they people was around three last week. Okay, that's insane. I never liked it there. I never liked it there. No. And I understand the bus potential. I totally see what you guys are saying. I just think the Giants would be stupid. I basically think like scataboo would have to seriously blow it either with his personality or whatever he's doing, which he might be doing or just his performance. But they better give him the opportunity to be their lead running back. Did they just keep the four guys on the roster? They did. Now they cut Eric Gray. I mean, that's telling. It is telling. Because one of those guys are special teams guys. Maybe outside of single-tare.

57:06Yeah, they might be expecting to have two running backs who were special teams guys. No, but usually have one. Yeah, I think single-tare will probably be. I mean, probably it's cam scataboo. Maybe it's crazy. Maybe a good gunner. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if they're in talks to Tray Tray. Trayvian Henderson's a faller for Dave. Yeah, that's just the inverse of Ramandre Stevenson moving up. I want to talk about this one. Rishi Rice is a faller for Dave. He's currently on NFC, Yd receiver 14 in between two terrific Yd receivers. Go's Devante Smith, Rishi Rice, Zay Flowers. I've got Rice ahead of Smith and Flowers. He's just moved down for me throughout the entire training camp slash preseason period because I've bought into Kenneth Walker more and more. And I don't think there's going to be more than maybe four games this year. We're both Walker and Rice will have monster games. I just don't think it'll play out that way. I think if Walker's running the ball well, I think if he's catching screen passes,

58:10it's all stuff that's going to take away from Rishi Rice. I don't mind him as like a early round three pick in full PPR later than that non-PPR. It's one of my favorite things that I have Gibbs or Bijon and I can get two of Niko Pickens, Collins, Alave, Niko Ork. Niko A. That's right. That's right. Like Rice. The fact that he's fallen that far is awesome. It's hard to take him in full PPR. It's hard to take Devate over him in full PPR just because of the potential for... There's also the upside. The contingency upside Kenneth Walker doesn't exactly have a gleaming track record of playing 17 games he did last year because he was splitting reps. But if there are going to be games where Walker's unavailable for Kansas City, then Rishi Rice is going to go right back to nine targets of game. So... I think that you're giving Walker the injury problem and not rice the injury problem. Yeah, I mean, sure. That's part of the contingency downside for Rice. I don't think he's around two pick anymore. That's it. I just don't buy the

59:13argument that you add a running back and make a wide receiver worse. Two years ago, the Eagles added Sequan Barclay. He ran for 2,000 yards. Didn't really hurt AJ Brown's targets. I don't think. Maybe I'm wrong. Last year, the Bears got so much better at running the football and they had a better passing game too. I just think they're offensive. Well, the offense is going to be better. The seven target per game guy in that offense. That wide receiver. Well, they didn't... I mean, they spread the ball down. But they did with Lovelin at the end of the year. That's the time. I'm with you, Adam. I don't think Ken Walker is the problem for rice. I think rice is the problem for rice. If he's not physically right, then we have an issue. And that's I think the concern is that people looked at the videos and saw, oh my god, look, he's slow. He can't separate all these things, which may be true. But if he's on the field healthy playing, there's not anybody else. Does Kelsey's 36? Where are these not proven anything yet? Look, I'm excited about Cyrus Allen, but I don't think Cyrus Allen's a problem for Rashi. I think as long as rice is there, he's going to command targets. What he does with those targets is he's still

1:00:16to touch down guy. Okay, you can nitpick all those things. And maybe that's where Walker comes to play. But to run away from rice, I'm not saying Dave's doing this, but to run away from rice because of Walker, that's the mistake. I, Rashi Rice has never really been able to separate. Right. I think he did early in his career. I don't know. Last two years, I haven't much evidence. He's average 18.7 PPR fantasy points per game in his last 17 healthy games, which is only a top game. Okay, ridiculously high target share. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, in those 17 games on pace for 163 targets. And you know, he might, by the way, he might struggle week one. He struggled against tough matchups last year. He gets Denver and week one. So there's that. But I don't think that should matter. Ameca Bucca, we've talked about Jordan Tyson's a faller for you. Are you taking, now you had a couple of risers like you had, um, Trey Tucker, K. Shambudian, Chris Bell. Are you taking them ahead of Jordan Tyson? Let me double check where they are on my rankings because the one

1:01:20appealing thing about Tyson is you can draft him and stash him in an IR spot. I do have. The Adam Terry. Right. Uh, Tucker and booty, I do have just ahead of Tyson. I also want to say that I lied about not having drafted scataboo. I feel bad about that because I drafted him in the podcast league. Uh, what route? 10th pick of round four in a 14 team league. Okay. Good. So that's uh, 50 second. 34. Yeah. That's right about where I am ranked. All right. Um, so we're so Jordan Tyson, uh, Harold, Fanon, Jr. and Travis Kelsey are two fallers for you. Kelsey for the same reasons as rice, but much worse like his target chair could really fall off a cliff. How many targets are you projecting for Kenneth Walker? That's not saying. He's taking targets for rushy. I don't think they throw as much as they have in the past. David's come to the reason why I've started to sag a little bit on on Patrick, my homes. Okay. And Fanon, we talked about I'm becoming bullish on Casey, Concepts, you know,

1:02:23really think he could be like very good. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's got them in round eight way out of 80 p. Who can sepsion? Yes, sir. Well, those would be our risers and fallers. Thank you to whoop for sponsoring this week's risers and followers with whoop. You can better understand how your body is responding to the travel training late nights, weather changes. It helps you see what's supporting your energy and recovery and what might be holding you back so you can make meaningful changes to enhance your overall health. Once again, if you'd like to join Heath and Jamie and tons of other whoop users and learn how you can get a free month on us head to join.woop.com. FFT that is join.woop, which is w-o-o-p.com slash FFT. Oh, man. I don't know if there's a let's talk about the Sean Tucker thing. Heath, Sean Tucker got a one year, $2.5 million deal to stay with the bucks, which is actually a pay cut. And I shouldn't be on the bottom right here. So yeah, you lied.

1:03:27I got to motive for the scatter. I have the poo poo anyway. What do you think about the bucks backfield? I think that anybody who's drafting buck year ring hopes that it doesn't matter. And from their point of view, it's a good sign that Tucker had to take a pay cut to stay on the team. It is just a little bit concerning because both Kenneth Gainwell and Sean Tucker had a lot more carries inside the five yard line than buck year ring. And in fact, everyone who had a carry inside the five yard line last year had more carries. So I think the trap back risk is a little higher. I'd still take him over Scataboo. But it's there. He could just be kind of a between the 20s early down guy. I got a lot of news items here. And most of them don't really matter. But let's pick the ones that do. Unfortunately, this matters. Hate to see this. Jamie Keenan Allen arrested for DWI to just from a fantasy standpoint. Unfortunately, to be cold about it. Sorry about that. I always hate

1:04:29these news items. Did this change anything for you with the Colts? Well, two things did. I mean, one out here is being cleared and ready to go on top of Keenan Allen getting in trouble off the field less than two weeks into his tenure with the Colts. It just doesn't feel like is the risk worth the reward for a 34 year old wide receiver. So you wonder, are they going to let this play out? Is there going to be a suspension? You know how this all going to work for the Colts passing game. But for somebody who was worth a late round flyer while Pierce was on the public. Now I don't think he's worth it. Good. Do we move downs up or anything like that? I mean, I think if you were in on Josh down, you should stay in on Josh down. If you were out on Josh down, you're probably not going to be out on Josh down. Keenan Allen's probably still going to play. I don't think they're going to cut him if they would have they probably would have done it yesterday. But maybe there's a suspension they decide to move on. It's just a matter of like how much were they just waiting for him to be ready and then signing him that this was the plan all along. And they're willing to just put up with this,

1:05:33you know, off field scenario. Or is it like, hey man, we value your service, but can't be doing this. Bye-bye. Didn't they cut? Was it Nick? They got no Nick Westbrook yesterday? Yeah. Which week we wasn't probably ever going to matter anyway, but he might have mattered if Keenan Allen was going. I generally like I agree with you. I don't like talking about the situations. I pretty much just read what Drew Davenport writes about the league's policy. And he seemed pretty skeptical that anything would happen in a fell wise to Keenan Allen before this situation has resolved. It sounds like he was parked at the time that it happened. So yeah. Also, Drew Davenport does not from what I read this morning does not have Josh Jacobs on his draft board. Right. It's very staying away from Jacobs. For a reasonable reasons. Keenan Allen in full PPR, it's like round 12 plus. And if he ends up being suspended, he just cut him. I know that they like Ashen Doolin and

1:06:36they drafted a guy Dion Burke's and those guys made the team. And that's why Keenan Westbrook and Keenan is no longer around in India. I'm going to call it a show here. Fab thoughts tomorrow, just for those of you who want a little Fab primer. And some more news items like what the Raiders are saying about their running backs. So, Chief already kind of alluded to a surprising cut in Denver. And not much more. The Dallas Cowboys acquiring an offensive tackle. But we'll have more certainly between now and then to update you on. Okay. Thanks for watching. By the way, tomorrow we're also on CBS Sports Network and Thursday. Every Tuesday and Thursday going forward at New and Eastern will be on CBS Sports Network. Wow. Yeah. I mean, mostly you should just watch the Tuesday shows, but yeah, the Thursday shows exist too. No, Lionel Messi has retired. Oh, I thought you were wowing the fact that I promoted a show on that on. Messi retired in the middle of the season or the season. Let's see. He has announced his retirement

1:07:38from professional football. I almost went to the game a couple weeks ago when I was down there. Been able to see him. Maybe not. Yeah. We'll talk to you tomorrow on Fantasy Football tonight. You you merri final on