Everyone Saw The Glow… Not The Pressure Ft Idia Aisien

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2:09you know, Pijama's the idea I sense that I'm making and I thought, let's shoot an episode just lounging, chilling. How are you? Welcome to the show. Thanks, TM. By the way, my brand is called Rich Sleep. I just want to ask why Rich Sleep? I also like, never baby like. Only nipple babies would think about. I mean, someone says to me that the only fun that the real meaning of nipple babies is never been pulled on my life. I did not, I just used to hear it. I didn't even know what it meant. I just knew that I was some kind of shade now. No, the first one. I actually thought it meant nepotism. Yeah, I thought so too. That's what I thought it was. No, I've never been poor or something. I don't know. Right. And then lapo means living in poverty. Yeah. I was like, sure. Yeah, but no, but the brand Rich Sleep was created because I feel like we have such a hostile culture in Nigeria and Africa as a whole. Where if you're not overdoing, people feel like you're not doing anything. And I wanted to bring back

3:10that concept of like, you know, work-life balance, like just as much as it's important to be, you know, doing your thing productive. It's also important to take time for yourself, relax. And COVID taught us that if you're not lounging in a home that's very comfortable, like, you're really screwed these days. And yeah, I was thinking it was about like, Rich Sleep, aesthetics, like rich girls. Oh, yeah. Well, fun. Yeah. But you have to find like a smart line as well. Yeah. But how are you? I'm good. Welcome to Tokyo Moment finally. Thank you. Thank you for having me. She never invited me on her show. So what do you mean? Every time I've always reached out to you to have you on the podcast, uh, shadows always have a way of clashing. Yeah, but yeah, I just feel like I feel I feel like you love me, but I feel like the love has never really matched my energy, my own love. Yes, that's my opinion. I'm happy you're saying this because I actually love you. Yeah. I'm always in your corner or you need every time I've invited you to something. Mm-hmm. You know, every time I've invited you, something you never came. Yeah,

4:12because no, no, no, you've only invited me twice, three times. No, two times. And then they were branded events. And they were in my birth to be there. But your birthday was in branded losses. Brammy Martin had done one birthday thing like that. I just wanted to do a show by eating ourselves with my pajamas and just chill with that new camera. So nobody like no one knows. Um, then I invited you to something. Oh, gosh. Oh, yeah, I don't want to talk about it. I think it's more than four. No, no, no, no, no, no, that one too. Was it paid? Let me tell you that it's like the hustle queen. She gets all these gigs. I'm super, super, super proud of her. And Edia wants to invite you to come to work with her. And I'm like, that's not a proper hangout. You're working. Like why are you inviting me to come to some movie premiere that they had asked me and they couldn't afford to get me on. And then you said, Oh, don't see, I'm just come because of me. And I'm like, no, just come and hang out with me. Then I birthday, she was a remy Martin thing. I didn't think it was your birthday because you said remy Martin is doing something. Yeah, you didn't say you just said remy Martin wasn't your life. Fourth. Covid. Oh, my god. Beans is, are you beans this age? No, no, no, no, that one is um, she's um,

5:16I don't know why I just thought it was the same thing. Oh my god, I'm so happy that we finally get to see these because I've known you. Do you remember how you met? I don't. I think I've known you for a very long time. I'm going to tell you how you met. Tell me. Okay. Yeah, just move back with something. I just moved back. And one day I was at wee baker. And I think I wanted to be a presenter because they kind of offered me like a show on spice at the time. Yeah. And I was leaving like a foreign company. Everything. So I was trying to find my feet. I had reached out to a few people in Nigeria. And some people were like, well, I'm not giving you my numbers. Tell me an email, you know, whatever. And then you, I saw you at wee baker. And there was this team around you. I think that was the first time I saw your makeup artist, your stylist. You guys were having a meeting. Oh, yeah. I was like, did that. We still see that. And I know, and I know someone who has spoken highly of you in the past because um, I think you were on radio. You were doing so much. And she was like, oh my god. Look at her. So I remember that day. I was like, I'm just going to walk up to you and I'm just going to ask you a question. Yeah. And I know that you don't remember

6:17this day. But I always write and talk about this day. So now I'll tell you I want to be a TV presenter. Again, a lot of people had ignored me. And you were like, listen, build it team. Don't be afraid to spend money. Whatever it will pay off in the end. You were like, find people that want to grow with you. You gave me like, when I say you did not get keep. Wow. So today, I'm still so shocked. Like you, you went into details. And I think I don't really understand the concepts of gatekeeping. I mean, it's part of this part of the world. I find out that people are so catchy about so many things that just nobody wants anybody to mean girl energy for me. So outdated, right? And I've never seen it as what do you mean by as fast as you? Where's the yardstick for girls that says that you, you know, suppose some people really suffered. So they want people to suffer. That's so bad. And I'm sure you also have your suffering story to say because look at what you're saying in the beginning, nobody wanted to. And it was the same with me when I started out in this industry, no one knew my name. So I walked my way from the bottom. And I think from

7:20being the team happened without me knowing that was what was happening. There were also hungry people who had a vision. And they thought, okay, I could make up. You could, I could dress, I could style. I could let's come together and let it move. So she literally told me that they just have a shared vision with me. And guess what? We went from nobody knocking on those designers, popular ones that you and I know today have told me we cannot dress you. Sorry, you don't fit our brand aesthetics. I've been told you cannot get the girl girl. I have been told all sorts. And now when we now get them saying, what's the name? Oh my god, really just one send to you. And we laugh because it's like I remember, and that's why I always tell people you can't take those days to heart, right? Because there's no business that does not have the years of struggle and years of, you know, trying and hustling and being a pretty girl, sometimes I feel like it's, I tell people this is why I want to hear. It's harder because people literally think that everything comes easy to you. So they want to make it harder. Being a nipple baby, whatever it's

8:20called, being, being everything just has you a nipple baby. I don't know. What is what is that? I think you are. Yeah, because I think you're even in New York, you were living the life. Oh, right. So you quit that. So yeah, people probably give you shit for that. Oh, so much shit. And it's like, even now when they call to negotiate jobs with me, they'll be like, oh, but you don't need the money. I'm like, you can't do that. I need to get paid. I pay my bills. They're like, oh, but you don't have a husband. You don't have kids. And I'm like professional companies tell me this. And even like, not only would like somebody called me a few days ago, she offered me, yeah, I can't say it's because my whole package is just die. We'll get to the packaging piece. Yeah. She offered me. She said that this role is going to give me exposure and that, you know, she wants to pay that the budget for the company is 600,000. I said, I have never in my life received 600 K. Not even from like a friend. Not just asking me to do for

9:22work. I've never, I've never seen that. I know. No, just asking me to do that. She said, okay, can you do 700? Billu, a millionaire. I want to block out with how things are like the Naira don't actually like, we know how crazy things have been like, this is the reason. And this is why I always say about the industry as well. This is the reason why they always think that every female is a prostitute in the industry because you find out that people just are not willing to pay. They want you to do so much. Yeah. And this exposure thing was done so much to me that I vowed in my life that nobody would ever work for me for free. And I did anyone's come up, you know, I might not be able to even pay you what you are worth. But I will never let you, because what that did to my brand or what that did to my my skill and talent at that point was made me not think it was good enough, because you find people that will find reason to be rich you and say, be grateful for even calling you. You know, it's not even as much as how much she offered me,

10:24but then she, she used every rule in the book of manipulation. And she went on to say that, oh, you know, you are not the first person we're considering for this role. I was like, honestly, I'm actually supposed to travel. So I'm okay. She now goes over, you know, and they also complain that you're too expensive, blah, blah, blah, blah. I shouldn't reach out. And I just said, oh, you know, we have a relationship. So let me try. And I was like, I'm not expensive. I pay my bills. And I don't work for exposure. I work for money. I like if you are a nipple baby, if your dad or family has money, I like money. I mean, I need more money. Yeah. Yeah. Technically. Yeah. Technically. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, that should, that has nothing to do with anything. Exactly. You know, hire me because you respect my talents. Now, you're even nicer than I am. What I do when people start trying to be stupid like that is, I just leave you on red. I do it to everyone. What if it's a phone call? How would you have a phone call? I'm going to be like, can I call you back? I'll call you right back. I'm never going to do that because I feel like there

11:24are some things that you just not be said, right? I've had even best-level people still try their look. You have people that will come at you and say, I just response with, my response is my silence. Then you realize that, okay, that never called back. That probably wouldn't fly. Because what do you want me to say? If I have to start exploring to you why this doesn't make any sense? Yeah. That's also essential as time. You've kept me in your mind. You've thought, okay, let me try and push my lock. I'm not, I, I rather you just say to me, we don't have a budget. Do you take a chance to support us on this project? Exactly. And I can't say, okay, can I executively produce? Can I see opportunities where I can also, you know, find, put money in and see how I can market and then make it something. Exactly. We want it to go with someone else. Just slap in the face. And then the other tactic she used that really takes me off. She was like, what did she say? There was something she said that really, really pissed me off after everything. She goes, oh, that, you know, at the end of the day, this is a show that will make more people

12:27see you because you've only done like Netflix and Prime. And a lot of people don't watch those. The real audience is on YouTube blah, blah, blah. And I was just like, this is my mother. Yeah, but just ask me to do it for you. Like, you know, all of this grandma would have been solved in babe, we have a relationship. I don't have any budgets. Will you be interested? I will respect someone who comes at me like that more than you literally trying to tell me, nobody knows me. You're trying to shit on my, my brand. Yeah. Still looking at you as a messiah. And that's that thing that, that humble thing that Julian strives to do where they try to humble you and they make make you feel almost grateful for everything. And they will name the people that they were considering instead of me and things like that. And I just realized that this year, I'm not taking any more of that's like none of it. Do you, do you experience people trying to pit, pit, pit, yeah, pit you against other people? Yeah, like they'll be like, oh, you know, everybody said this person. And, you know, I was the one who fought for you. I don't care. Like go to work. I think a guy tried

13:29that with me a long time ago. He walks with an agency. And we were trying to sign me on for something and then he came in and he's like, trying to, it's all negotiate, it's trying to negotiate, right? So he's like, oh, you know, there'll be people that I work with don't really want you on this. Like, I don't know. You know, you women, do you guys behave when your name came up in the meeting, the women were being caddy and they were finding every reason not to. And I was the only one saying for that reason, it alone. So this is the budget. He was too shocked. I was like, oh, they might be rights. And that's how you actually respond to people. Yeah, those people might actually be right. I'm so bad. So horrible. So why do you want to work with me? Like move the fuck on. Honestly, it's one of those, this industry of ours is just, it's a joke sometimes. Yeah, it's interesting. How do you navigate friendships in the industry if you have any? You know, there's something that you wrote on your page this year. And I've been using that the whole year. Places are not going this year. Round and circles back and forth above and beyond. Not interested.

14:34I feel like I, my friendships are very different from the industry. So I've had like my best friends since like, I was eight years old. So I have like those people that I know that they would die for me and I would die for them in the sense that if I were homeless, you can't tell people in this industry that you're homeless. Everybody will know. You'll be in the insta blog the next day or just love or whatever. But they're friends that you know, they won't even let you sleep on the streets for a night. So those are my friends that I know right or dies. I think in the industry, I just have clear boundaries and they're not very obvious because I'm nice to, I feel like I take a lot of notes from you. You are super nice. You make everybody feel important to you. But You don't read it. You don't read a lot of people. Isn't that I do? No, no, no, no, I just have no one. I've studied your face. I just, I have studied. You're even nicer to someone who you don't. Oh, my god. Then you've gone and you've fixed your hair and you've continued the next conversation. I think it's a survival skill. It's just, yeah, I just don't want to do it that shit.

15:39You know what I mean? And I'd be like looking for friends in this game. It's gangster. It's gangster. You know, and I just, I've never understood the nature of faking the phone, right? If I don't like you, there's no points. There's no point. It's not a, I'll try to disrespect. It's just the class day away. I'm just not interested in maybe not to do with this bad thing, right? But one of the things I've noticed about the industry and I don't know if it, why would I say I don't know if it happens to you? It happens to you, especially. Okay, tell me all the time. I feel like a lot of people come close to certain people. Whether it's envy or jealousy or whatever it is, they want to demystify you. They want to see what's so special about you that everybody loves you. They want to figure it out. They want to know where you're, I don't know if I can call it superpowers. They're coming from. They want to understand how you think. Like what made her XYZ? You know what I mean? And then when they come and they're like, oh, my big deal, she'll be, I'm not her friend. I've been in her house, slept in her house. Then they now start feeling like they're the new you cash does said this perfectly. She says, first they see you next the other. Oh, you got to stay prepared, babe. On both days, you

16:46have because one day start doing high seats, high seats, high seats. Yeah. Hmm. Hi, sis. Everybody's seeing you. And first, first they're nice. And just as you said, I think it's that competitive thing where in their hands, they're like, why are not me? What things like that? I think they've always felt that way. Like anyone who tries to come close to you and that the guys over I think has always been an enemy. And that's why I always say to people like, under the guys of what? Like this one, I like you. I want to be your friend too much. I want to be like, too nice to me. I always feel like, what's the catch? You always like, never when you want. But I can see it on your face. Like when people are actually like, high-five you. No, it's not, you don't do it well. Really? Oh, wow. When people are like, okay, I just want your number. I've seen somebody do that to you. I just like, oh, yeah, call me. I'm just like, I should never go pick up that cover. Guys, literally just opening my hair. I'm the one supposed to be opening my hair on this show. No, but then you seem like a very nice girl who also, your niceness has cost you, cost me my life.

17:50Have you tried to unpack that? I had to go to therapy. I had to work on, so first of all, I think when I was younger, I wasn't a nice person. So I went out of my way to learn how to be very, like, I wanted to be nice because I have a lot of empathy. I feel like people are going through you know, and I also didn't want people to think based on how I look. A lot of people would assume she's going to be stuck up or she's going to feel like she doesn't want to hang out here or talk to this person. So I was very like, oh no, like, you know, and then later I was like, damn, this is why people are nice. You know, I've had a lot of people play in my face. I've had a lot of betrayal, obviously. I've had a lot of disrespect competition from people that I'm just like, you can't even sweep my house. You know, I've, yeah, I've faced, I've met people that I'm like, if I were just myself from beginning, this person would know that this should not be happening. Do you feel like moving back made you also take on that persona because you had this thing to New York and I find

18:56that American girls are very, very nice. And with them, are they? Most of the girls I've met in America actually sweet. They're not like, they're not like, caddy, like an American girl would see you and compliment your outfit. Like they are not, in my opinion, or in my journey, most of the American girls I've met or seen, they would be like, I'll give you a name because I was in them by. Some of them don't even know one something. No, listen, I was in Dubai and I walked in. But you look like it should be somebody to know. So I walked in to Guy. All that women. Okay. Yeah. Why? Oh, not even black, but this one. Some black girls want to tell about all that women. Well, they are F, right? Found out that one of them sits on the board of these on board of that. And now she's just walking in the dress and they said, sorry, are you famous? You look like you're famous. That will not be in Nigeria and behave. We can't imagine someone you want to try so hard. We can't really have our face. They might have seen you from a find. They're just like, yeah, yeah. But that's what I mean. Like you going up, leaving in New York, did you feel like

20:00when you came here? Was that why you thought you had to be like, hi guys, this is where I am? I think because in uni, so the schools I went to were quite private. And in those schools, only the white people would talk to me. The African-Americans and certain people that didn't speak to me, like when I would ask like, what was going on? Like, why, you know, I wanted to be friends with the black girls as well. And they would just be like, first of all, you're Nigerian. And me, I didn't understand that because I didn't understand how Nigerian women are, how Nigerians are that people didn't like us. It's when I came to Nigeria. And now I've seen like the global receptions and I'm like, I see why people don't like us. Well, you know, but then they're just like, oh, people don't really like Africans like that. First of all, there's the history part of it, like slavery and all of that. But then there's also the, these people calm. They feel like they are wealthy. Some of them on scholarship, yeah, I hear just journalist down flexing. They're not going to be a friend. And they told me to prepare myself. They're not going to be my friends. And I did see that a lot all through college. I went to three universities in America. Oh, the same all through. So when I came to Nigeria, I think by then I was already like, okay,

21:05people are not my friends there. But I and I had like my own both friends and my friends from high school or whatever. So I came to Nigerian. I was just like, oh my god, I'm going to be super friendly. I'm going to make so many friends. My life, I'm going to rebrand my life, you know, I'm going to be anymore. They showed me paper. So yeah, in this league was, I don't think there's up to three people that I've seen Shegey like me. It's just my Shegey's now. They like to show me paper. Yeah. And I also felt like it was also a little, I love you to beat. So if it clicks, it's almost self-inflicted because you're just this bubble of happiness and you just walk it over. And you could just be like, you can't just watch it. Just sit right now. You know, I'm rich. I don't have to deny it. Like you've never been someone that brags about money, but some things just rule off your tongue. And then you always get into trouble for that because you're sad with people that look at you. I'm like, what's she even feeling like? I'm not saying that. And then you know, I wanted to know that industry that already they are looking like, please, we're going through it. I don't think it was the like meanest thing like you've

22:06experienced from like another female industry or no industry in Nigeria. Ah, there's one that's nice. There's somebody that you, I think you even know this person. This person came, sat with me, downloaded everybody. And I didn't know anything. Oh, I know. Don't look at Jesus. Is it one of those uses Jesus to talk to everybody? Downloaded. You know, when you're hearing things and you're not here that you have to want to say something or you're confused, but because I'm not, I'm not even it. She personally told you that I did not like you. Of course. Yeah. But that she has to, and she always comes in the name of the, the name of the hotel. I never like spoken about using this person. Everyone who, when people talk about you around me, it's always my treat. Oh my god, I love her because people that I know, you know, have known you're even as sort of the industry would, would attest to that. It's always because

23:08I only have time I see you. The energy has always been great, right? We will talk about the industry. You talk about, you know, issues you might be having here and there. We'll talk at length about things. Do you know what I mean? And then move on and that's how it is that I have pocket sized relationships like that with people. Yeah, with people. Yeah, it's not necessarily like, you don't tell me you listen to them or whatever. Yeah, like we don't like you call me and talk about your secrets or vice versa. But when you need something, you can pick up your phone and call. Because I was like, yeah, I know. It's always bringing me up with, it's much with me. Yeah, you've been so upset. That's me. I just thought that you're like, she's on the show. I don't want people to think that we're trying to push the agenda that women carry towards each other, even if people already have that. I feel like insecure and women who don't know any better are the ones who feel they need to be that way with each other. Do you know what I mean? Because for the lack of me, they're not insecure. Nobody is, why would I see another female and triggered and feel the need to say things to almost make the person feel small? My thing was just like creating narratives about me where so many people are telling me that I was

24:12crazy that, oh, no, this person doesn't have an issue with you. And then when she would fall out with those people, they would be like, I lied to you, your name wasn't her mouth every day. I'm like, I knew it's because I knew I wasn't crazy, you know? And I never feel the need to have that conversation with this. Are you a conversational person? Why are you just the, I beg, you know, it's actually interesting. I'm very confrontational. Oh, my God. I've seen how you break it down. I've seen how you can break it down. Yeah, but with females, I don't think you are. No, I'm actually quite, like, if someone hears something, I always appreciate it when they ask me because John does that. Like, if you're going to beat me, it's okay because I can't really fight like that. But I will ask because I can't, I'm also the kind of, I have this kind of spirit that I can't pretend. So I'm not going to be able to laugh with you if I don't get it off my chest. You know what I mean? So I feel like I'm quite open in that sense. But I do think that me and this person had a sit down. And I was in person. You did. We had a sit down,

25:16which I found out that apparently didn't like me. But anyway, the point is we had a sit down. But when I left the sit down, everything they said during the sit down was a lie. So it just took us back to square one because why are you hashing out stuff if you're going to lie through the hole? Yeah. I think saying people are just delusional. They are people like they've lived in this bubble in their minds for so long that they built realities that do you know this from from the delusions? Yeah, I let people stay in their delusions. I gotta let you stay in it because they be. It's working for you. So, hey, hold on to that. I'm getting to the point in your life where you're okay regardless of what you hear or think or what people say about you. Oh, that's a flex. That's a flex. Where you keep succeeding like no matter what's because I and I've looked at the people that don't like me recently. And I realized first of all, none of my haters have it Bentley. Sorry. Sorry. No, none of my haters can walk into the rooms that actually count and change anything for me. Right. The people that don't like you,

26:21they usually like not doing as well as you are. So and they don't have access to the things you do. Yeah. If they have access like struggle access, struggle access doesn't count. So do you feel like all the things you've been through has changed you or you you've grown through them? Like who are you now? I think I'm somebody who has realized that my family was right from the beginning. So, it's in things that they told me when I came to Nigeria, like my brother always used to say never date a fan. Never be friends with fans. I was going to get there. Never be friends with fans. Never date a fan. You know, little comments like that that he would make and you know, and you just be like, no, you guys can't be like that. You guys are classes. You know, and you go through stuff and you now realize holy crap. Let me tell you something that a female did to me. So I had this follower. She was on, oh, my post TM. I love you so much. You're this, you're a good role model and angel. There was one guy on IG that was talking to me. And he had like the most famous last name in Africa, one of these really nice last names. I don't even really care

27:25because you know me. I've dated the, the, the, the, the, I've dated a struggle. Yeah. So, um, regardless, this guy was like, oh my god, struggling with you. He said poor guys. I've dated, I used to be the poster girl for like, oh my god. He's working hard. Yes. Oh my god. Talk to you. Sorry. It's now that they can't, it's not that they can't even talk to me because now I'm not even, I'm not, I'm not a child anymore. You know that my 20s are happy. That was money for all of us. Like, let's do it. Now I'm like, oh my god. If you ain't bringing money, of course, say anything. So this girl, um, she saw this guy's name and he was commenting on my post. I read, if I didn't read her DM, I would have never believed. She wrote to him. And when he was like, oh, um, you're so beautiful, blah, blah, blah. You're definitely on my post. Like, he would write, he was, he was very rich. So he's coming with his real feelings. It was okay. So he now sent me a message and he was like, he needs to be careful of some people, blah, blah, blah. I don't

28:26know if this is your friend, but I've noticed that the person comments on your stuff a lot. So I was like, oh, why? What are you talking about? Uh-uh. Don't talk about my follow. I like that. You know, me. I may defend out of the universe. And he sends me what she DMed him. She said, please, she likes him so much that please don't be following all these celebrities that this one could have fucked 1000 men. She roots it. They don't follow these girls that the amount of guys that have run through them is the amount of, it's like the amount of winning down for. She said, she wrote some really vulgar crap. And she was like, look at me. You know, I'm not used like this celebrity is blah, blah, blah, blah. I was like, eh? And this same person on my last post, oh my god, my role model, my angel. She wrote that to this guy. Did you test me? Yes, I blocked you. I blocked her for sure. That's crazy. But I was so hurt because I now realize that this whole fanatic thing, like, there are people that are just, you know, you can't be too first by mistake, right? You can literally let me tell you what I feel about a lot of people that are leaving this power of the sort of society. I'm going to say this, they're similar to the half-skits, like,

29:28they don't even know because they have not been diagnosed. No, no, no, no. They are people that want to leave it around or that have multiple, no, no, no, I have to disagree. No, let me tell you, I have to disagree. Let me tell you something. One thing I've noticed about Nigerians is if they have a problem, they're very expressive. So if you have a problem with, like, it's in Uke now, in Uke will be like, how much one CM did? She didn't find me to have Patsy. I know she doesn't read to me. So Tynuke will now say that to me. By the time you run into Tynuke, you're like, ah, Tynuke is not like that, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then I see you on Tynuke in a video. I'm not thinking kind of Tynuke after everything you said yesterday. But you guys have, she's cool with you now. Do you see what I mean? Well, the problem we most Nigerians is that, I will not tell you that. Come see what Tynuke said. And then you guys are back to square one because you're not looking at how funny again. Yeah, but don't realize that that was everything you just said. You can now cool enough. She has my phone number. And we're in a great place, even if she's mad at me, I would expect Tynuke to talk about me to people. But pick up the phone and Randall need tell me, cut me out. Tell me on the phone that bitch. How many people are

30:30gonna curse you out? Then we're not, we're not to think about it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Going by that, that is Tynuke, it's not the same relationship in my head. She might think we're like that. But in mine, well, not so she can't curse me on. But my real friends, they don't give a fuck if you're at CM. They will drag you from the eight, and then instead can put that I'm, I'm that you are comfortable that I'm that I'm saying have a right to have a feeling, right? Because someone don't even invite me to a party. I'm not going to be out there thinking, oh my god, it means this person doesn't like me or it's not what we big do. Because the people that I genuinely skip and forget, I love you. But it's more that deep, do you know what I mean? And then if you feel a setting way and you actually bring it to me, I respect you more than a thousand times. Because it's like, right? And I talk to him with a bunch of like, girl, are we cool? But that's what I've noticed in interest. That people make up fast. I'll fight fast. So yeah, but then I think that because because people now see it's I think that it's a type of way, but I've noticed that people think that this is fake,

31:30but I'm really not fake. I also think it's because we use the term friendship and friendship very loosely. Not everybody's your friend, right? And if you feel something about someone, it's not better. We're just mature. We're older to say to the person's face, like, hey, this you did. I felt this because again, as you said, the intentions might not be what it is. So generally, it might not be that this person meant to hurt you. Or you rub the passing of an opportunity to genuinely connect and explain their side when you've spoken to a thought party. And most thought parties are past ads. Most thought parties are not okay. You understand? So by the time, like, now if you're talking to me about your close friend, I might not necessarily think you hate her. I might think you have a moment and you're venting me now going to tell your close friend is just trifling. And I know I saw I agree with you. A lot of people are this person, you don't like that really. But then they say things like we shouldn't like you. She talks about you, but in that moment, the person might just have been having a pitch fit, right? So which is why I always say to people, be it to the person that you know, that I don't forget, or it's not that serious.

32:33So they are mature enough to know that, hey, it's not that deep, you know? And do you believe in, like, inheritance beef? Inheritance? No, you know how certain times you just feel like this person is my friend and that person is fucking with my friend. And I can't be fucking with you because you're fucking with my friend. I think inheritance beef is so stupid. Yes, I do. And let me explain why. I think you should only inherit beef for maybe up to five people that are closest to your idol days. Anyway, that's when some are idol days. I beg please. You understand? Because guess what? There's sometimes, and I'm not talking about whether the person is right or wrong or this or that, we are so intertwined in Legos, where it's like, you might not like somebody, but the person is my sister. Like my actual blood sister. What am I going to do about that? Yeah. Legos, we're all sharing. Everybody, this is somebody's ex. This is so small. So that's why I say, and this is the stupid thing about inheritance beef.

33:34So there's a girl that came out once. Well, she, I don't see if she came out, came out this way. Well, there's a girl that was saying that, oh, I was dating her man and we were friends. No, her ex-man, sorry, and we were friends. And I reached out to this guy. I reached out to this girl twice. TM, all that hangouts, you know that kind of thing. She would blow me off. So we never hung out before. We've seen in public spaces, and we're nice to each other. But the narrative suits you to act like a victim. Like, when you hear I'm now dating this person, by the way, I didn't even find out that person was, because we're not close, so she didn't tell me. I didn't know the relationship wasn't out there. When I'm not dating person, you're not expecting me to stop because of you. No, but I think that situation, I think the reason why she may have a feeling about it, is because if she looks in her DM or looks in her life, you've reached out to her a couple of times. Yeah, she said no. And sometimes the girl might now feel like, is this the reason why I should always like my name? No, but we never knew he was a man. Because we were quiet. And I haven't had such a meeting yet. So I was like, what are you saying?

34:35That maybe we stopped using the 10 friends. We might not be that mobile. I'm not a friend, right? Yeah, because I tried to be. I won't lie to you. I actually tried to be. I thought she was a cool girl and everything. I had a big house, I had a big house. I was like, well, we have things in common. And we go to the same places. What's as different as the friendship, no people? Like, they didn't go anywhere. At all, it didn't go anywhere. And actually, actually, I liked someone. And she was like, and I told her. I was like, hey, this guy they're talking to, I actually like him. And she told me that, oh, my darling, I'm still going to talk to him. What kind of experience? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. When I found out that I was dating somebody that she didn't. I was like, wait, wait. What kind of experiences do you have? Because one second ago, you said you did. This girl is not even someone that. She was not my friend. But you were, they would still have about a guy that you like. No, we were at a party. And I see not too much information to do time. I was young. It was like, because if I don't know you, what am I telling you about a guy?

35:36It's nine years ago, okay? This was like eight years ago. So I was, so I was such a child. You know, then I even used to ask people that, hey, I've heard you are talking to this person. This person is talking to me. I don't want it to be weird. I was that kind of person. I was a very, very, you know, looking out for girls type of girl before. Really? No, I don't. Yeah, no. Now, if you're not blatantly my friend, please. I knew exactly. Because everybody is too, this girl is just small. You know what I mean? And I think that the circle, there's no way. I feel like we're even just sharing. In this part of the world, it's just gross. Like everybody that is talking to you, talking to somebody else and three or four of that girls. And it's just like boys are just having the time of their life right now. Yeah, they are. Because I feel like women are so many. And they are women in different categories, different faces, different. So a guy would have a girl in different life. Can you date a person that tells you that he really cares about you? He wants to settle that with you. But he knows he can't be a one woman man, but he likes you a lot. So, but you just,

36:36if you're fine with the fact that he would see other people, then you guys, if he tells you that blatantly, if I, to be fair, if I'm not looking to settle down with this person, if I, if you want to marry you. Oh, no, of course I don't. Okay. Yeah. It's, it's a bit, that's, that's a bit mad. Some guys would think at least something honest. Yeah, that's what he was saying. I know who I am. And for any other woman out there, whom I feel like at least it's honest, and he told me I would date him. That can't work for me because for me, I don't believe, you know, in that. And when he steps out, he's going to be like, yeah, I told you exactly. I was almost like, what you allow continues, right? And I think like most mistakes, most girls will make it in that situation. He's thinking I can date him to change him. Just maybe the experience is me. He might touch the fact that you do that girl. I am the textbook girl for trying to change people in my past, and I'm done with that. I know what you know. I know. So, why are you crying? You know, can, and there's this thing of like,

37:36younger guys now, like trying to chase he younger than you. Much younger. And the last, it's a very nice thing. It's nice that they attracted to me, but it's not, it's not going to happen because the last one I experienced, I think they arrested him now. He, oh, who's he? Was he like a thief? This guy apparently, he went to a boutique and he acted, he, anyway, long go. Oh my god, we're still in to impress you. Oh my god. Guys, guys, we just put... So, what did you know he was a thief? How would I know he was a thief? The one who said, he's like, like credit card thief or like, I don't, okay, so the first time this guy reached out to me, he's like, okay, wait, hold on. Well, he said he was also like a street nigger. Like, you know, he's not a street nigger. He's a scam person. He's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and scammer, like, he just like, the talent had Mr. Ripley. People that pretend to be something they're not. So, when he met me, he's had all these stories of how he's like,

38:38his uncle's this person, a very popular figure in politics. My, this one is, this one, my uncle is down one, my, this person is the head of this bank. Okay, cool, whatever. Those things don't really matter because, yeah. Because that's your uncle. If you're giving us your uncle, tell us streets. Like, should I go to Ghana? Yeah, let me not say the wrong thing. Actually, I can't talk to your uncle. It's the head of you. So, he was just talking about those things. I didn't mind. I was like, okay, cool. At least he has pedigree of some kind, whatever. So, at least we won't have issues with my own background. Cool. Next thing, we're having conversations. And I just noticed that there were certain things that he overemphasized. Like, he'll be like, he was driving a BMW. But he'll be like, my Range Rover is a mechanic. And he'll just say your second car is at the mechanic. He would say, oh, my Range Rover. And I was just like, I was getting the ick. Then one day, like, he called me. And I didn't pick his calls because I was doing something. He now started calling me on, um, blocks number on, on known call or something. So, when I picked up, I was like, hey, I'll call you back. Like, why are you calling me?

39:38He now goes, oh, that it was network, that he didn't block his number, that network hit the number, that it's been happening with his phone. A liar. Thank you. And I was like, nah, this is a red, there's too many red flags here, whatever. So, I now told him, we can't talk anymore. Come to find out, there are people in our industry, that we're messaging me, that, are you this and this guy? Are you this and this guy? I'm like, no, I've met him once. Are you in there? With its two juicy beef patties, three slices of melted cheese and tangy big-oak sauce, the big-oak is what happens when you start making a McDonald's burger, and never stop the big-oaks. The most McDonald's McDonald's burger yet for a limited time. Over 90 of the top 100 U.S. accounting firms trust Bill to simplify and secure Bill Pay. That's proven financial infrastructure built on over a trillion dollars of secure payments. Visit bill.com slash proven for a special offer.

40:40TM, he went to club, told one guy that his uncle is so, so, so, so, that she should pay for the table or the whatever, whatever he'll give her back the money. He didn't give her back the money. This guy writes in my DM that I'm going to destroy you. I'm going to destroy this boy. He said that his money is with you. I am already funding his money. I was like, what? And she was like, yes! So, I got on a call with like a bunch of girls, her and her sisters, and that's when they announced that they're telling me that he apparently has been doing this to a lot of women. And he'll be telling them, oh, no, no, no. My girlfriend, she's not talking to me right now, but all my money is in my girlfriend's accounts. Who's the girlfriend me? You. Yes. Do you spend money on guys? I used to. I used to. They'll say they're businesses bad. I'll give them a couple millions. Now I'm just like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yeah. I've listened to everything. I've, wait, my body's really gone. I listened to your shows. That's not what I said. It's only with 30 days business is bad. Yeah, his business is bad. And you know that time you're dating for marriage,

41:40so you don't want the guy to not do well. So if he's trying to invest in something that's going to grow, you know, my hands, go! It's, yeah. Wait, it's okay. Yeah. But like, you know how they always say that there's ups and downs for guys, so if you help the guy in the beginning, then later, who's in here? Who said that? Oh, this is what's official now. Who said that? When the guy is up, he will now also help you. And how he treats you is dependent on how you treat it. Baby, you don't have a ring on your finger. So that month's destiny has nothing to do with you. He's up sideways, back, left, right. That's his mother fucking business. Okay, you are still trying to put your lives together. Why are you now trying to add that to the relationship work? If you have a lot of money, I have motivation to give you no money. And the guy who speaks to the dead man inside of you to rise up. Baby, you can't do it. I believe you.

42:41So do you, what's my one nightmare? Even if it's just like, tell them. Ah! That's it. That's it. That's it. Ah! No, why? Yeah. I got cousins. Who even I give that 10 million out to? Five days, nice be you. When I say five days, nice be you. Like five days, be you. Pray for my life. That is better. That was this guy I gave money. He said that his business wasn't going well. And then I remember his phone, all of a sudden, wasn't going through and stuff. And I was trying to reach him, baby. How were you, my new friend? Oh, no! Wait. Why? He explains to me that his phone wasn't working blah, blah, blah. And then I found out that he had flown like a popular girl. Business class too. I think it was Dubai or South Africa at the time of cash. Yeah, so because of that, what stuff wasn't working? That was what I couldn't reach him. But he said it was in Lagos, but his phone was having issues. It was, I think one of my brothers that told me, bro, your boyfriend is here with the bib.

43:42And I was like, no, it's not possible that he's actually in like a, you know, that kind of thing. And he was, my brother's like, are you mad? My brother now sent me a picture. And I was like, so when I now told him, you're in Dubai, he now goes, no babe, my friends drugged me, you know, that kind of thing. And I said, but I just gave you money. I thought you had like a, he was like that. No, that you know, it's even for the business thing. They drugged him. Just hold my hand. What I told you. Hold my hand. I say this to you. You are too fine. You are too beautiful. You are too gorgeous. Girl, sorry. I know, girl. Honestly, listen, we've all been, we've been through it. But I'm not lying about you being so beautiful. And you being like the most gorgeous thing. Do you look in the mirror and see how gorgeous you are? I'm pretty, I know. No, no, no, girl. You are beautiful. You are successful. Forget where you came from. You're one of the people that are regardless of how wealthy your background is.

44:43You've always wanted more for yourself. Yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean? Listen, girl, you are not a poster child to save a man. Girl, I know, we've all been hurt. Like, Tim, do you know how old I was when you met me? Do you know how old I am now? Humor me by telling me. I'm not trying to be hard on you. And I hope you're not getting that for me. Because this is literally, this is what we would say to each other any day. And we've all fucked up. We've all been in that one situation where we didn't know. Yeah, do you know what I mean? But I know your brothers and I know how mad they probably would have been about that sort of situation. Yeah, I'm in terms of that. You are not from the streets. You are not a poster child for, hey, I can help your business. I can help you. Because we live in a world where people just take advantage. Yeah. And because of your sweet nature, I see how a man will run that game on you. Yeah, that up telling me, where's all the money coming from? No. As far as your father's morning. Sorry. Because we women go through so much.

45:44Yeah. And then the thing is, when you know here, people think that they'll see, you know, a beautiful girl. I think that she probably has it easy. And the guy is probably too happy to. And we chop the most. The most. I've chopped sheets. I mean, no, I've put it with money. At least see them. No, no, no, no. But I've also seen liars. Manila. I've seen. And then it almost makes you get to a point where you're just like this dating thing. If you don't come correct, I don't, I don't, and I don't blame you for being that way. The things people would listen to, snippets or, or, or sides of you and say, Oh, she's materialistic. But they don't know the shit you've been through. Yeah. From trying to not be materialistic. Is that trying to not be materialistic? Oh, we need to be in a lot of trouble. Oh, needs. Yeah. If you guys tell you a dream of one business that's not actualized,

46:46like in my life, actualized, wish him will speak to the dead bones in him and be like, Yeah, I'll be your friend. Oh, yeah. But that story of that younger guy. So he went to a store. He did like a thick credit alert, like to pay for stuff. And then they now held him. And that's how they finally arrested him. Did you pay for him? No, I didn't. That was a separate, that's a different person. I know. So what's dating like this day? Valentine's Day this year for me was, I thought it was very boring for the general, just on the streets in general. I think that people like get tired. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I just used to make a whole thing about Valentine's Day. I think it was very like, they also know there's going to be a lot of like fake self-gifting and stuff. You know, I've never understood the need to do that. If I don't have a Valentine, I'm very okay to post that day. I'm alright. Like I don't have to, like why is the social media pressure so much? Why do I have to give to myself something? Because I think, because I don't know, maybe it's a strategy.

47:46Me, I don't know. You could also be a strategy to make, maybe many in their lives think that they have found something. Maybe it would open doors, because I've never understood how I walk into a flower shop. And buy myself, I can buy myself a flower shop. You don't walk into it, they're alright. And then you take those videos. Well, for me, I know that this Valentine's Day, I was very, very pissed off, because even though I got like a lot of gifts from like different people, sometimes like the person you want the stuff from, you just want more out of them. And it's just, you're not guessing it's, yeah. And then you're getting attention from other people. So that really bothered me. That can be very annoying. Yeah, that was very stressful for me. You know how the guy you like is literally not pulling as much effort. And then people that are not giving you the attention, that people that watch your forums, they just sit there and don't buy stuff. Fuck, leave me alone. Leave me alone. In fact, loneliness makes you pick some of their calls, yeah. Honestly, I think we'd always just need to get to a point where we can label things for what they are. I think that that's helped me a lot in my life. You understand?

48:46And the moment I feel like I'm like any guy in more than usual, I make sure I cue that like this. Why? Tim, you have to be vulnerable. That's what love is about. See, there's a period where you're actually falling for someone and you're like, oh my god, I'm about to jump. And it's just jump. Idiot. What's that? It's just, I like that part of love. I'm not jumping for nothing. You can eat these days. I'm sorry, I need to feel the crown underneath my feet. Really? Yeah. Oh no. No, that is called growth. I think the unpredictability is also like kind of the point sometimes, no? Right. How's that working for you, Bill? Okay. Exactly. Thank you. I mean, I don't want to sound like the grandchildren doesn't believe in love. I do believe in love. But love, as I grow older, means something completely different. Love for me right now means intentionality. That means showing up. Whatever that looks like, right? I need a man who is intentional about my feelings. But do you think a man can change? Someone that was intentional can become intentional

49:49and just say, it's not my job. I lost talking back and forth. Let me know for the next girl. Not for me or for me. Yeah, please. No, let me tell you why I'm asking that question because when you say I lost talking back and forth so are you changing, trying to change that? You're changing and now being intentional but everything she says, she wanted and trying to get me to a place of comfort before she shows another man's side. I'm not doing that. You wrote something once about breadcrumming and somebody was literally doing that to me and I didn't know what it was called but it was just a little bit. There's minimum and I would get so excited. And my friend, my friend in London was one that showed me your post and she said, this is what they're doing to you. Quite really. Yeah, I was like, I'm going to be shit. No, I don't believe you're put on this to change. Do you know how to, of course, this to change you? True. Then I applied that to trying to change someone else. You set yourself free. You're stuck in some ways and you only change when you want to change. When God pushes you and deals with you, the way you want to change. It's never really about that person so I don't, Rihanna said this as well. Dating somebody trying to change them

50:50is a complete waste of time. You need to be able to look at them head to toe. Can I accept this? Rihanna said that. She said that I want them but Dating people trying to change them is pointless. Is either you just know this is what this person comes with. Does it work for me? Can I do it? Do it? If you can't do it, just let it go because if you're trying to change someone half the time you should spend enjoying life, getting to know each other and enjoying the actual relationship is spent literally with trying to put what's that thing they say about the peg and the hole? Yeah, around peg and a square hole. And a square hole. It's not going to gel. This is who they are. Right? And it's okay. You can beat that with for someone else who has the capacity to do with that but that's just not going to be me. I'm sorry. Like, yeah. Dating can really suck sometimes, but it's a girl. Did you think that I mean being single in Nigeria for me

51:51is a different ballgame? Like I feel like girls who are single like abroad might be. I thought when I came to Nigeria, I was like, oh my god, um, I was like 23. I was like, oh my god, by the end of this year, I'll be engaged. Like, I was so sure I was like, I'm a princess. I'm going to find a prince. How many years has that been? A few frogs later. A couple of frogs. Do you still want to, I mean, do you still want to get married? I mean, now I want to get married. I'm not sure if I want like a Gongwasa or a big wedding or not and all those things anyway. What's your type of guy? I've never asked you that. Like, what are you attracted to in a man? I think I just want to feel safe. Safety. I might have pointed to where what I look for is safety. I don't want to wonder if what's together because I've had a guy that would tell me, oh, I don't want to put a label on our relationship. Let's see where it goes. You know, there's all these things. Um, I just want to feel safe. I want to wake up in the morning next to somebody and recognize who he is to me

52:53and who I am to him. Um, and I just want somebody that, you know, can hold his own. I don't think I can do it's a broke person anymore. I don't care if people drag me for that's the business. I don't think I can do it's a broke person anymore. I make more than I've ever made. Um, so I might have to point when I feel like I can't demand that my partner is also like, you know, an equal player in the field or even a bigger player. Um, but I want someone that knows what he wants. Mm-hmm. And I want someone that can take care of me and take care of himself. I don't want to date a baby. No, I'm interested. No, you're not asking for too much. Do you feel like when you meet people, are you very vocal about what it is that you want or do you shy away from having that conversation? I used to super shy away. Even when I started realizing, like when I would date, like, guys that were really broke, when I started realizing that I wouldn't be happy. But if I'm bringing all the money and I'm the one planning the dates and I'm the one going above and beyond. Above and beyond.

53:54And I'm the one going above and beyond. I started to realize that I wouldn't be happy but I was never really having those conversations. So now it's almost like I'm doing a monologue when I'm talking to guys and I'm like, ah, there was one broke guy that didn't do that. Nobody should try to spend the guys looking at me like, and he knows I'm talking to him with style. Like, yeah. Nobody should come and tell me that they don't have money or something. Like, and now I'm very, very, like, don't try to do anything. Why don't you just cut them off? Like, if you're talking to somebody and they're reaching for this. Yeah, because are there other perfect people? Are you really, I don't know. No, it's not about being perfect, but it's easy to know what you want. Have everything that we want. I don't think so, but I think that they can be so long that can have almost everything. I feel like we're always going to have to compromise. Anyways, yeah, also with our family members, we're compromising, it's all over. So I feel like that's both the things you're compromising on shouldn't be your core. Have things that matter to you. So for instance, you said you want a guy that makes you feel safe.

54:54You want someone that you know is yours, and you both are very clear about what is going on in your life. You want someone that can take care of himself and possibly take care of you. Yeah. You want somebody who has his own thing going on because you're ending more than you can, whatever. So let's look at those four things. For instance, you might need to compromise on someone that might not necessarily be able to take care of himself because it's busy working and you might not be the one that will, you know, hey, you're laundry, hey, you're this. Sorry, what do I say? No, I mean like, let's be real. You might be, you might even want to compromise in those four things that I've said. The easiest thing to compromise on in that is maybe the guy is not the one that picks up off time himself. He's not tidy as person. He's not. I think if you, if you get safety, if you get, let's be real now, you get security. You get a guy who earns more than you. You get a guy. If you have everybody's there, you might know, you might take care like, you know, like if he can't like put this. No, no, no, because you said several things. You didn't say that someone who can take care of himself

55:55because he's not a baby. Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Okay, like you might need to come around the house. Like around the house. Maybe he's also used a bit spoiled. He doesn't know how to lay bed. He doesn't know how to clean up a time. I know I will have stuff. You can exactly. So why am I saying this a lot of stuff? What's about not changing self? Compromise. I've listed four things that might appear. One might not be 100 percent. I eat the taking care of himself past. Yeah, that's a great guy. In my opinion, you compromise on writing things down from him. Yeah, you pick up your clothes and toss them into this. You tell him, one, two, three, four times, he will get it. My girl doesn't like when I just get back from basketball and leave things. Yeah, it's a compromise. Or like, I can help you pack your luggage. I can do a little. Yeah, so that's what I mean. To at least he has some. When you said you can't find someone that is perfect, I agree. But the things you're compromising on are not your core. Can you compromise on cheating? Girl, you know, I have a different question about cheating. I've always shared this, but when I share this, people, I think don't see how sarcastic I sound.

56:58I think that I'm saying this as Bible, right? Yeah. Because I remember one girl had this whole TikTok thing and she's talking about, how can I say if you cheat? If you cheat on your joke, cheating is not a deal breaker for me. I said that because I realized I can cheat too. Why do I always make it seem as if he's the guy that has the liberty to? I think we take him so much power. When we make it seem as if the man is the one that has, I just have to sit here. The man is all those things to me. And then I'm not a machine. So cheating is a deal breaker for me, but you see, I'm not going to tell a grown-ass person what to do. If you choose to step out on me, no fool will. That means it's not a one-way street. I can't. That I don't do it, it's because of the reflects for what we share. Because I actually want to maybe be committed. It doesn't mean that I don't have niggers who I can hit up in five or four seconds and would be glad to do that. I always wonder why guys don't even realize that. It's easier and more reasonable if you were the woman that we're cheating. Because we're the ones that get chased.

58:00You have to go out of your way and go and spend money on plan and be intentional. And you can't make it seem no. Exactly, exactly. Meanwhile, we're sitting down, we're getting DMs, we're getting people hollering at us, we're driving, we're walking, whatever it is we're doing. So if we can hold ourselves to a certain standard, I don't see why guys don't. I mean, also funny, I remember when I said that last year, like cheating is not a deal breaker for me, it was everywhere as headlines. And I knew we have a blog culture where they just want to share that. You know, and everyone was like, did you actually watch the video? And I'm like, guys, I left the whole marriage. I mean, hello, it's me. I'm being sarcastic. Like, yeah, I don't see it in front of a man. Even man should ask me that question on it. It's now that he's just need a deal breaker for you. Yeah, tell him no. As long as, no, as long as I'm like, as long as I don't want to do in the cheating. And I hope that once you catch me, you can also forgive me. Honestly, the way you don't spray on fast, spray on fast, she will come home. I would pray for me. I got my change. Me and my fascini guy too.

59:00As long as you're willing to do the work. That's, I've actually said that to a guy before when he said to me, ah, so do you believe in cheat? I don't cheat. Do you believe in cheating? I said yes. Because for you to ask me, there's something wrong with you. And he's like, oh, so you can't cheat. To me, I said, by the grace of God, you think you're the only one that has the monopoly to look at all that women? Exactly. In this restaurant, do you know how many five men have worked, person have also looked at me? Oh my god, I remember the day we were at Harrod's T.M. And there was one guy, I don't know what country was from, I think Russia. He was just staring at you. Do you remember, we're eating like Asian food. And at that point, I was ready to become Russia and in 10 minutes, I was like, oh yeah. No, I remember he was making it so obvious. He was like, that's what I always say to guys. Like, you know, a woman being good to you, holding down the force, it's not because she's stupid. You'll be shocked that the access to cheating is there. She's just not wired that way, right? She probably picks what you have with her. And then for the guys, I tell my guy friends, you're thinking is just, they will say things like,

1:00:01he has a mind of his own. I love Harrod, what I just, what it was with that person is physical. Maniga, you think women don't have Ojisu? Everybody has that urge. He's not just you. I think over the years, and morally, they've made women feel like, women don't even talk about what tones them on, or how sexual they can show requirement for me. Amanda does what he says he will do. I hate, I just realized like one of my biggest pet peeves, even when it's something really small, is when you say, okay, we're doing this at 7 p.m., or babe, let's go to London or meet me in London. And the next thing, they are saying, oh, actually, changing plans like off the bat, my, that's a huge red flag for me. And it's a lot this day, isn't it? I find that people are not walking the talk. They say, why fear anything to get you attention? Anything. And then when you're not inside, it's not that I didn't know.

1:01:01Shaggy. Ella. Well, did you not say, girl, that's actually one of my biggest pet peeves. Yeah. I'm on my own. I got it. I can do it. So don't come into my life. I'd be like, I can do this for you. Don't let me do this for you. And then have a funny story. There's this guy that reached out to me. And we've never really talked like that, but he was on speaker and I was at the spa. The spa knows this is just, and because we're doing my body treatment or whatever, I couldn't reach my phone. So the phone was on speaker and I don't talk to him like that. So I was even wondering why he was talking the way he was talking. Oh, you're so beautiful. Come here to see your body, whatever. I was like, the clinician is here. Is it a clinician? It's not the word. OK, the technique, whatever she is. Her down, I was like, she was nothing that I knew this guy. He was not like, oh, what's your name? What's your name? She now said her name. He said, yeah, send me her bill when she's done. Send me her bill. They sent him the bill. He did calculate your roots.

1:02:04OK. And this is what you get done monthly. This is what it requires for your upkeep. And I will be responsible for this. And I wrote, nobody sent you the bill. Like you asked. You asked for the bill. I wrote, nobody asked you. Nobody asked you to get the bill. Like you asked for the bill. And he was like, yeah, but you know what I meant when I asked. I don't know what he was saying. I was like, no, I don't know what he meant. And then this thing became a huge thing. But it was just the way it is. Because please, if you want me, what did he mean by you? You know what I meant when I asked for the bill. Basically, like maybe I was just joking. So Tim, guess what? This is the part that broke that talking stage. He was like, I just called you. Mr. Cole, pick your call. So when I called him, I was like, oh, hi. He now goes, I need to understand what makes you tick. I need to understand the kind of person you are because seeing this bill, I need to know what your values are in life. He was giving you a lecture because of his spa bill.

1:03:05Then do better spa bill. See, I wanted to know that. No, I guess what spa bill that you did not call him on the point. See, baby, I only go to the spa. He called you. You were currently at the spa. He told the person what you wanted. Send me the, send me the bill. Like Anna, he, and I what hurt me the most was I felt like you used me to flex because you know, you don't have money. It's okay. Stay in your lane. John's done. I had to call the lady. And I was like, so do you remember some guy calling us? She said, yes. Now, that woman that said that we should send him the bill. I said, please. She said, she said, no, no, that's madam. You've been coming here for most of how many years. I know I said, please, how many? She said almost 10 years, like seven years. Now I said, thank you. Never needed help. And I said, please, have I ever caught? She said, no, no, no. That even she was shocked the way he was talking. That, ah, your body looks like it's so soft. And then at that place is me of how physical they want to get. Like your lips look so inviting. He said, I will do this. You know, I'm willing to do anything for a woman that is my wife. My dear, people that cannot give tights when they have some or they can't give tights

1:04:05when they can't give it to me. I mean, do I do it in 2026? I mean, God has to come with an offering. If you cannot give tights, why are you making them think you can't give tights why are you making them billions of lives? She said with his wife, he said, yeah, he's willing to do all that before his wife. So if I'm, if when I'm his wife, like you do, you know, we only just had to say one thing to the guy. No one asked you to. I don't know. No one asked you to. And I just hung up and never pick up the call again. No one asked you. And then I hate the fact that they will not try and make it seem like you're a woman that, like, this is what I can do for myself. And it's not a problem for me. No, I can't do. I was doing it. Like nobody goes to the spa and is like, lie naked on the bed without a plan to pay the bill. Like, how was I going to leave the place? You know, and then you now came on in such as yourself. How long have you guys been speaking to each other? We had only spoken for like four days. So that was why I was a couple of months before when he was like, yeah. And when we talked on the phone, to be honest, like, when we, the first day we spoke on the phone, he was like, oh, I was born in Geneva, Switzerland.

1:05:06I went to one of the most expensive schools in Europe. My father was this, my mother was this, this, this, this, this. That day as we're talking on the phone, you know, that TM, you know, after the whole, okay, the, you know, I meant he goes, just so you know, like, right now, I live in one of the poorest areas in the UK. You know, that I now said, but you're telling me also about a castle in, in, in, in, what is he saying? But he wants to buy a castle in the UK. I said, you're telling me about a castle. He now said where I am. It's no where I want to be. You know, you know, you have patience that you had that conversation like for me, I, I ghost people for fun. I know it's my favorite sport. You say you love it when I type it. And I block your mother fucking ass as you're typing a message. I plan it. And I see someone is typing that. So I never get to see it. It's like you're yelling at a wall. I'm like, yeah, I'm gone. Girl, I will ghost you. I'm not even feel bad on my phone that plants you. Hi, who is hi, your mother?

1:06:07Who is hi? Are you crazy? Oh my God. Because when you say shit, the stories, people think you're lying. They don't know how disrespectful people can be. Do you know what I mean? How am I at the spa? What makes you sick? On my own. I know you disturbed my afternoon. Have me stressed to pick up the phone. When it should actually be a no phone zone area. And I did that with you. And you're like, oh, your body looks so nice. No, I can't wait to see your body one day. I know your body looks like it's going to be so soft. This is it. Why are you talking to me? What's the name of the person? She now said her name. M-M. Send the bill. Send the bill. You wrote, ah, okay. How much was this bill, please? I think it was 900 and something. What they sent him? They sent him the beginning bill, which was 770 key. So it was even sent him less. They sent him less. And he said, ah, I think he thought it was going to be like maybe 150 pounds or something. How much is 150 pounds in Niagara? I don't. That's roughly almost 200, almost 300 key.

1:07:09150 pounds is 300 key. How much? Like 300 key. Exactly. So you know what I mean? Like it's like Niagara dollar. We are going through it. I think men and women should just stop talking. I think everybody should just take some time of like a few years. Let's see. Let's value each other. I think everybody should stop talking. Women have money now. Women are working. Everybody should just take a break. I think so. Since they were so bad, they said that machines that can carry babies now. I think I think men should just chill. The machines. I think women should just... I think everybody should just calm down and just separate for a bit. Jesus, she didn't just calm. What I had? The trumpets. I'm waiting. Ridiculous. Honestly, it's crazy. You should actually start a story diary of a fine girl living in Lagos. People will not believe half the shit you have to go through. And the funny thing is, it's not the girls who... I've always said this. I believe everybody's beautiful in their own way. And I don't like to call anyone ugly. But I feel like the girls who... What do you have to make that statement? I always like it.

1:08:10Disclaimer. I have to. Because I would never call anyone ugly. But someone who might be or in a little bit of the looks department, they have a good. Guys are so nice to them. They are the... I think they do. You see, even... No.

1:09:16Ugly girls are fat. Well, so afraid. No. I think that they are nicer to them. I saw a guy right once to a girl. He was like, I'm not going to put the same effort to talking to a girl like you. That I wouldn't put into talking to a girl like Beyonce. But guess what? Even Beyonce right now, she's just crying. Only God knows what happened in that elevator. That's what Lange was like. I cannot take it anymore. And that is Beyonce. Yeah. You got Hallie Perry. Anything stopped her in her ear. She was deaf. Hallie Perry got slapped in her ear. Yes. Someone slapped her. Yeah. Good girl. She dated deaf in one ear for a long time. Yes. Then she also married the sex addicts. It's not everybody that left her because it's the sex addicts. And that is the most beautiful... So if Hallie Perry can go through shit... Who am I? Who am I? Who am I? Hallie Perry had enough. She said she's never married anybody anymore. But she was like paying for marriage. No, she married somebody as young as who chopped sheets there. I think she's been married like three times. Isn't it four? I think it's four. Is it three or four? Four times.

1:10:16At that point, she's like, guys, thank you very much. I'm good. Success woman. Do you know how men are always yelling about prenups? Like, oh, love of love. Why are we then getting half? Have you noticed that so many men are now shouting that they need support? In half doesn't. In half doesn't. Yeah. Even Hallie Perry had to pay her ex. Yeah. The girl that has... What about Jessica Simpson? Jack Clady Clacks into the guy. Yeah, she... I think the money was... This girl that's everywhere. Tiana Taylor as well. The guys are... Candy. Even Candy and... Cardi B. That offsets one off me. I'm like... You're not that off me. I'm like... He said he's entitled to hacker. You know? He said he is entitled to hacker. And then, you know, he was like that. You know, when I dated Cardi, I just have to be honest. She would always come home sweaty and make me like, it's her blah blah blah. And she wrote, yeah, Nega, you had to work for that. You had to eat that good. Because I was making more money than you. You had to eat the sweat. I went out to sweat for your kids. Look, Cardi, it is savage. No, no, no.

1:11:16She... And I just love the fact that women are no longer... Taking the confines of what society thinks is the right way to live their life. Yeah. I love that women are breaking out of the norm and are doing things that work for them. Yeah. For so long, society will make you feel like this has to exist in this confines. You can only find love. Love must always lead to me, when white, him, when black, walking down the island. You know, but now people are like, as you said, I beg, I beg. My peace of mind is more important to me than anything else. And after time, I feel like, when I'm not even heartbroken, you're not heartbroken. You're not sad about that guy. You're sad about the vision of the guy you wanted to see. That we build what you wanted. Always thought it was going to happen because if you really dissect that situation, it's like a tragic. It's bigger and that even special. You know, it's just one of those things that I'm sorry.

1:12:17Also, apart from men and every other thing we've spoken about, I like that, you know, you're really embracing acting and it's a thing that you're doing now. I love it. I love it. You're into acting school as well. Yes. I was in an ID, I didn't see a soul of acting. I went to NLA. Really? I did finish doing this. Yeah. I did like a whole year. I'm going to go back. But I wanted to do more physical care. I wanted to do their physical classes so I just said at this point because this year we had so many things happening and I was like nah let me go when I can actually focus, even though I'm praying I never have to focus because that means I'm booked I'm busy and stuff so I actually just like that now I'm focusing on my craft I'm focusing on me and I used to feel like such an imposter team so every time I would feel like I didn't work as hard to earn this as other people but now that I've done school now that I practice a lot I do additions now and for me I'm auditioning like it's a job, if I get a job cool, if I don't get a job it's not a dream or anything like that so I like that so where do you see it? Five years I think asking people this question because I feel like it's kind of like putting pressure on them but I don't plan to you know because for me right now I'm just like I'm you know oh no no let's talk about five years that's about this year so five years definitely like cross country homes like I want homes like in two more countries other than Nigeria I want to have kids like I really

1:13:37do would you have kids by yourself if they make me of course like if if that was the I was even going to do that last year but then somebody told me that you know you're like a fairytale princess can you hold on for your own but you really believe in that but I don't want to dash that I think that you deserve to get what you want I like how you look a life from you know color lenses yeah I love that you still hold on to this castle princess thing because people manifest their lives and it comes to pass a man I think that what you need to do is you know make sure that you are quick enough to define from the beginning I just see what it is stick to the vision board in your head you want the castle you want the prince you can't get it yeah what is stopping you from getting stopped entertaining losers and I also think so I think that I I become so empathetic when a guy tells me that listen you know I didn't grow up like you but in the future I'm going to build this chain this this I just I'm like oh my god yeah because it's not everybody that started

1:14:39rich and then some of them are like billionaires now so you're like okay we can work together and you know that the mistake is there is the dream but there's also what the person is currently doing the track practice what determines if they are going to get there yeah a lot of females are by step to side lined with this naturally painted vision yeah a guy who is uncomfortable where he's at and is doing everything to live where he's at if someone doesn't even need to paint the picture to you because even if it tells you tomorrow I'm going to do this right now what he's doing makes you know he's going to come to pass that's sure multiple streams of income wakes up with his only shit I mean his hustling is doing anything that he can do to make that dream come true that person can sit with you and then tell you I wasn't born rich and just why this is what's happened by watching them leave their life you are inspired yeah you're like yeah I can't leave this guy he's going somewhere but we have so many with our sit with you and paint you that go picture and

1:15:40every day they don't get up to go anyway they don't do anything about this and they just keep talking about this picture the picture is not going to paint itself love yeah you have got to you know what I mean you got to work you got to get used to because I'm working I'm trying to get myself I also have hope some aspirations for where I want to be and I'm not sitting here just thinking that I would stumble on it so you can't be telling me I give me that 20 million I need to travel or and then every day I'm doing dream dream dream dream dream dream I don't understand yeah any dream that has not started with a bit of vision yeah right now and you know it's not going anywhere yeah and anybody can talk a good game so I have found out that sometimes when you tell the Lord what you want and you write it on your vision but it never comes with everything that look like similar oh my god too so that's what I mean by this is what you want you know you it's an option like nothing won't you want to have a kid by yourself yeah but if you feel like you want to do it in the confines of this why not you know you hold on to that dream and stand down everything that

1:16:41doesn't align with it yeah that's the difference between those who talk about it and those who are about it yeah a girl who is about I need to I manifested Marini rich man somebody who does that honestly they they they they and guess what planets and they positioned themselves again on TikTok watching a story manifest that wanted to be a stay home wife wow and she's she and she when she said ladies I'm gonna tell you the things I didn't do to get you know I've they'll tell you first list of things to do to manifest things I didn't do on one of it I was very very loud to me was she did not entertain what did not look like I vision hmm she didn't entertain it so why don't you tell me this one I called you last week so you went and said you better on that in that call ping that food 110 eggs cancel and believe in the power of no yeah believe in no this is not it's great I like your dream is amazing vision is great it's not for me yeah yeah and be deaf to society telling you it's not gonna happen and I'm so strong with doing that like in my

1:17:44career but I think when it just comes to people like guys I've just become more like oh my god oh my god oh my god like you don't know how your package you know sometimes I said that the package may not come like pretty like it may come small whatever and it may be a big thing later so I just always try to not shut things down but I'm not learning the hard way I think that might also have to do with your trauma because I feel like it happens to a lot of people it's easy to believe the bad stuff it's easy to believe the package doesn't come in it's easy to leave it to I have to do it because no because it's easier to believe that dumb shit actually sent you so fuck that shit I need the biggest part soon and I'm gonna get it because guess what I'm doing everything in my power yeah I'm going to act in school I'm betraying myself working yeah so I'm and I'm also talking to myself because sometimes it seems so out of touch that we now begin to talk to us and I tell you let me just say to maybe just say to yeah settling is what's going to get into trouble sure do you know what I mean yeah so yeah believe in nothing I'm talking about packaging like

1:18:46you know how important is the packaging because do you think that it's important for women's package herself I do think that it's important for you to carry yourself how you want to be addressed absolutely I feel like if you come anyhow you get anyhow my own opinion and I also do think that just the way we like men that are doing things are clean and smart well attracted well not necessarily maybe looks but well attracted to how people carry themselves sometimes maybe like this shoot or see that this or see that or you know even if you don't drive a car or something like are you flying bike or are you using ubers or you know what I mean like if you want to go a girl on a date are you not going to like figure out how maybe you rent a car for that day or something do you think I should open the uber would you go on the date I don't think that that was my reality right now I don't think that would happen to me right now okay we're getting somewhere that would not happen right now that would not happen right now but if that I mean you said in the past it has would you be like okay in the past it has to be another uber in the past

1:19:50I've been with people that maybe may not have had cars and stuff but now no it would not happen now yeah my I'm just in a different um have you ever like gone like 50-50 on the restaurant deal with a hundred times a hundred times you're so much nicer than that you're a nice girl yeah a hundred times and and sometimes they would even like say they forgot their wallets things like that so yeah if they told me because as well as I think I'll laugh at the restaurant but how are you going to pay if you forgot his wallets baby you can transfer that's true oh my god if I do have my baby you can call a friend my life where I'm at I can never be stranded when it comes to cash yeah of course of course like okay right now I left my bag at home and I need to pay for something I don't have my wallets okay do I have my token drag network to transfer okay my bank up is no working I have sisters I have friends I've surrounded myself with people that your network is your journalist that I can't say hey I'm such here transfer this morning to this I will send

1:20:54back to you so no occasion should you focus somebody telling you they don't have the means to pay for that bill they're trying to scam you because if you can't call two three people in your phone you're no more friends value if you call me I said to me T.M. please I'm here and my next talk I'm working transfer this amount of money I got you but there's a guy that literally stopped talking to me because I think we were at the club in London and he wanted me to pay like three thousand five hundred pounds for like a table or something that is I was like oh I'm so sorry I'm not going to do it and he was just like why can't you why can't you anyway in the end when he paid for it the next day he just said that he can't trust me because obviously everybody knows he's one of the most eligible bachelor's in Nigeria and he's trying to build something with somebody that is the da da da da so if I'm only out for his money I just thought oh if you try to pay for the table for money I will fail I'm ready to try to test me with that I'm poor and I'm trying to see you love me for you hey I'm 41 are you kidding me yeah no it's in my company yeah but I remember where you was that she's matching then it might as well tell me that I want that to know if you

1:21:57come through for me who would be stranded together I was it you say you mean oh my god how I don't understand a three thousand pounds for a table for you but we don't need a table let's go I'm too smart when we find the reason me if I did someone that's any ten thousand that there's no way you can't tell are you joking you have to what does it mean but I'm not talking to you because I'm trying to build yeah he just wants a woman that he can't trust or something that's what he said so it's three thousand pounds that made you summarize my life and you cannot trust me oh boy this has been such an interesting conversation I absolutely you know what I love about this episode yeah in our jammies relaxing and I hope people at home can just you know change into your jammies as well you know have a cup of hot chocolate coffee whatever it is and just you know we talked about so many things that's so profound you know what I mean and so many things that's so important I like how with you your breath of fresh air I think that you know don't let the world

1:23:02change you don't let people make you feel like your dreams are not attainable if you want to get married in that castle if you feel like there's a prince out there for you who doesn't have to test you to know if you're going to build with him that's hard work you don't need people like that you just need someone that'll be like girl I see your hustle you're my type of girl yeah I feel like together we can build something right because I'm also my hustle and I get it like that should be the point you know yeah love is a match thank you so much I can't love you too good look on all and this pajamas are so soft guys like I can't even lie I absolutely as she did one for Yaya and ah yeah yeah so cute so cute actually so cute it's called rich sleep so I know that side also imagine a babe that is having no the side hustles and then you guys then you test me for 3000 pounds she didn't put that down the gang custom marks together which is you crazy for a table that you're going to buy the drinks is you who was already on the table and then you know there were girls all

1:24:02over like and I just didn't want to I don't know the way girls were like swimming like ants normally you would have to if they were no girls then you know that's why they that's why they come off that you like walking billboard or I got it like that I don't got it like that you know I believe in your dream you might not have right now don't worry I'll support you thank you guys for watching I look forward to it I will not have a guess I want to make me run out I want to ask you something you can ask okay so basically if you do not follow this guy's dream right and then the next thing you know it's not meant to be mine it was not meant to be mine that's what has trapped many people really are you kidding so let me tell you something let me tell you why that is so what right you're leaving your own calling your own visions be money 300 percent success what if

1:25:07he doesn't and you end up there that's tradition your decision cannot be based on oh I'm what if we come successful tomorrow because he's gonna tell everybody I'm do not stand by me oh they are made me also to become somebody today and do you think where you're going to be you be suffering that's true that's true you're gonna be so elevating as well do you know what I mean yeah when you're saying this doesn't work for me right now this is not on my visual board it doesn't mean the person is a bad person and that's all nollywood the industry we're in she girls said no and then he got no command and then he got no command and he got no command and he's not you know was that some words kind of what is we get why she's not saying why she's telling rap fashion nothing when he's big jeep she's like emeka emeka don't you remember me because move away you hallowed it's nollywood right it's fucking nollywood babe many people don't end up writing that jeep of all these guys and if he's not if he if the guy has vision yeah and his horses spirits

1:26:13is there mm-hmm babe trust me you you don't even tell him I can't be with you yeah you will need to have sat with men that I know not even on a decent screw guys on my team that work with me that I'll tell you on girls this guy is going somewhere if you have brain listen to him journalist and because of how they think that's true even if you were not born rich they're books exposure expose yourself to life maniga why you so mad about every successful passing yeah that should inspire you to say this passing did this I will do it you can only build with someone whose head gets the vision you're on page three he's on page 35 how is it gonna work that's true so please stop looking at tomorrow what's it now imagine you're thinking so what's it now makes it tomorrow and then and now I miss that are you going to be poor tomorrow never with everything you're doing would you know so make it's I'm happy you found a nice girl and I then I also have my own prince who probably has three times more so why would I need to look back and be wondering

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