Episode 860: Johnnyswim

Today we're joined by one of our favorite duos, Johnnyswim. Not only do Abner and Amanda Ramirez make incredible music, now they're going to be TV stars too, with two new shows on the upcoming Magnolia Network. They tell us about the shows and what it was like to film them, why they’re so desperate to reclaim Christianity from its cultural trappings and how to stay creative, productive and healthy even while working from home. Don't miss it. Plus, we have RELEVANT News, RELEVANT Recommends and our new segment, What's Jesse Thinking?

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