Ep. 569 - Special Compilation - featuring Angus Deayton, Joe Pasquale, Tommy Cannon, Jayde Adams, Mark Simmons & Ed Patrick

0:00Over 90 of the top 100 US accounting firms trust Bill to simplify and secure Bill Pay. That's proven financial infrastructure built on over a trillion dollars of secure payments. Visit bill.com slash proven for a special offer. The Bleacher Report app is your destination for sports. Right now, the NBA is heating up, March Manus is here, and MLB is almost back. Every day there's a new headline, a new highlight, a new moment you've got to see for yourself. That's why I stay locked in with the Bleacher Report app. For me, it's about staying connected to my sports. I could follow the teams I care about, get real-time scores, breaking news, and highlights all in one place. Download the Bleacher Report app today so you never miss a moment. Hello, and welcome to my time capsule. I'm Mike Fenton Stevens, and my time capsule is the

1:05podcast where people tell me five things of their life they wish they had in a time capsule. They pick four things they love, and one thing they'd like to bury and forget, and that's all there is to it. And we've done over 560 episodes so far. So this is a slightly different episode to normal, which came about because I was looking at the dates for episodes released recently. A notice that we had an episode each went out the second day of the second month of 2026. The return visit of Mark Simmons. The brilliant one-liners stand up comedian. I wondered if we had put out an episode on the second day of the second month of 2022, in the style of the title of one of our past guests, Danny Robbins, and his fantastic play, 222, which is touring at the moment. Had we in fact gone one better with 2222? Well, I had to look, and amazingly, we hadn't. But that didn't put me off. Other and we fun to put together an episode where we looked at all the episodes as close to the second of February each

2:05year as possible. What a great idea, right? No, never mind. My first clip features the actor, singer, and the stand-up comedian, Jade Adams. Now, when we spoke, Jade was just breaking in to the stand-up scene. And since then, of course, Jade has appeared regularly in the BAFTA and RAW television society award-winning series Almos Not Normal with Sophie Willen. She's had at over 200 million views of her Amazon 5 star award-winning stand-up show, Sirius Black Jumper, the ballad of Kylie Jenner's old face. She's made the BAFTA-enominated Michelin star food show, snack masters with Fred Syrix, and hosted Crazy Delicious, the magical culinary competition where three food gods, Heston Blumenthal, Nicholas X-Dead, and Carla Hall, challenged talented food lovers to produce remarkable meals. She's also been in good omens with Michael Sheen and David Tennant, being a guest on Off Menu, the podcast, and performed in Steve Merchant's series The Outlaws.

3:07She was the winner of the 2014 Funny Women award. She hosted the 2020 Funny Women finals of the comedy store in London. She was a contestant on Strictly Come Dancing in 2022, and in 2023 filmed her own co-created comedy Ruby Speaking for ITVX, set in a South Bristol call centre, which proves one thing, it's worth coming on my time capsule. Actually two things, it proves we're good at spotting talent. Here is Jade with some life advice at the second thing she'd want from her life in a time capsule. If there's a mum out there who is struggling with their child, stick them in free Starburst Good Dancing, and follow Stacey Solomon's Instagram account, because I'll tell you what, that girl, I just think she's a national treasure, and I hope that she's been protected like a castle somewhere. I'm all about Stacey Solomon. I think she's done a lot for a mums during this pandemic, and I think she should be in awarded some sort of medal, and Joe Swash,

4:09I've got my eye on you. Don't you dare. Oh, that's a threat. He's lovely. No, he's terrific. Okay, Jade, so we put that into the time capsule, the disco dancing as a child. It's marvellous. What's the second item you want to put in? Another item I'd like to put in my time capsule was something from my, I'd say the best year I've ever been alive was my 31st year. Obviously, my sister died in 2011, which I've mentioned, and she died of a brain tumour, and then I had a period of time where I went through a lot of grief, and I felt like I didn't control my own story about her, because everyone sort of missed a part of her, and I think everyone forgot that I was her sister, and that I slept in a bed with her. I spent more time with my sister than anyone in the world, because we were together constantly until we were like eight, I was 18,

5:11and she went off to uni, and we had the same friends, we were in a bunk bed together, and I'd never really been able to tell the story about my relationship with her, and I went up to Edinburgh Fringe, I had no agenda, I just wanted to write a show, I didn't even realise I was writing a show about her, and I went up to Edinburgh, and I did my show about my relationship with her, and it wasn't, it was funny, it was very sibling-like, there were lots of sort of very relatable conversations I had about having a sister, and obviously I told people that she had died, and I tried to make people laugh on every sentence I said, even the sort of painful ones, and I'd had an argument with my mum and dad shortly after that experience, I'd done the whole of Edinburgh Fringe with the show, got nominated for Best Newcomer, and then I came home back to London, and I, I can't remember what the argument was about, another one of those traumatic experiences that have been removed from my head,

6:15but my mum and dad and I didn't speak for about a month, and that's quite a lot for me, because I talked them all the time, I think they're the best people in the world, and we didn't speak, and I was putting a show on, I was putting this show on at the Soho Theatre, it was the first time I'd ever been given a West End stage, I did the show, did it for the Soho Theatre gave me like three weeks, which was unheard of. That's a long run at Soho. They put me three weeks in at the Soho Theatre, and I still wasn't talking to my mum and dad, and on the penultimate night, I randomly gave my boyfriend my mobile phone, and said, keep a hold of that, I'm going to just relax here, it's my penultimate show, and I don't know if you have this same feeling, but the penultimate show of any run is always the best one. The last show is always disappointing, but the day before I'd had, I was like, this is going to be the one, so I gave in my phone to just relax, I did the show, my parents hadn't seen it at this point, and I kept thinking to myself, if they come to see it, I'm going to have to do some sort of subtle edits of it, because I was quite brutal in it with some stories, but they weren't coming, so it was fine, do the show, it was very emotional, I

7:19sing opera at the end, and then I look out into the audience, my parents are in it, and they walk up towards me on stage, and I burst into tears, and it was just super emotional, and in downstairs, my mum said two things, she said, number one, I don't like you saying the C words, just stop saying it, I said it once in the show, I've never said it again, she said, number two, I didn't recognise Jenna in your stories, but I know that's now because I'm her mother and you're her sister, and your experience of her is very different, and it was the first time that my mum and my dad and I would all had a really adult conversation with each other, I was no longer their little baby, because I was the youngest, and it was this show, and that year is the first, oh, I'm getting emotional, and it was the first time that I just, she was sick for a long time, and she was also very popular

8:19when we were growing up, and it was the first time that I just felt just a sense of independence, and and it was that show, so I'm going to put one of my flyers in the time capsule, lovely, from Jade 31, excuse me, I didn't realise it was going to cry, it's a very emotional thing to be talking about Jade, I mean your sister's death, and then your parents accepting you as an adult at 31, it's an amazing moment that when you suddenly realise that after your parents value your opinion the same as they value their friends and contemporaries, and they actually regard you as having an opinion worth listening to, for many people that doesn't happen, a lot of people remain their little child, and actually whatever you say is always a sort of a pat on the head in response to it, so to get that okay, I don't recognise what you're saying, but clearly it's as valid as my opinion,

9:19that's a fabulous thing. I will always cherish that moment, and you've just put it so beautifully, but yeah that was the day that I was accepted by my parents, and I didn't know if that would ever happen. Jade Adams, a lovely way to start, I'm sure you'll agree, okay let's move on a year, next up we have an episode that went out just before the 2nd of February with the gentlest man in Chobis, Joe Pasquale, I could have taken any bit of this episode at random as the whole thing is hysterical from start to finish, so I've chosen a clip from the start and one from the finish, and you can hear the rest of the many times you like in our archive, here is the always funny Joe Pasquale. You can start with what you hate, or you can start with what you love, whatever you want. Oh I think it's difficult to, because I hate all of them, and I love all of them for different reasons really, so you know there's a feeling that I'm between love and hate with,

10:21isn't it? Yeah, maybe it's. Yeah I sort of love you. Yeah it's sort of, but you sort of hate me as well, later. Okay I think the, the hate one is very, I don't like the kind of part, it's Suarez, as I cut down on me to hate Chobis parties, I never coated the press, I don't go, you know, I don't even know it's none of that, but Alex don't want it for me, it's not for me, I'd rather start on with Netflix, but whenever I see a volivon, it makes me, it makes me gag, I have a gag reflex, just on seeing a volivon, I'd get on a volivon, right? And there is a still, every time I see it, and it's go, oh god, and then I can't get the vision out my head either of what happened. I was doing a summer season, I would say, I said, I said like, Daniel Rubin said, I was doing a summer season in 1964. With darling Bernie and lovely Johnny. Oh, it is, yes, a staked on Johnny's, so I was, I was, in fact, I was with Jane McDonald, and she was massive at the time, and let's go and meet the mayor, you know, these summer shows you have opening night, and then, especially in the seaside terms, you'd have a local gentry there, and they'd have a, you know,

11:26sausage on a stick around the back afterwards, and the mayor was there, and he was fine, everybody was fine, loads of people there, different counsellors, and cut the local press, and the mayor kept was chatting to me, and he said, my wife's a huge fan of yours, would you say loads, would you come say loads, my wife, you know, the Pepsi, she's lovely, you love my wife, Pepsi, if he comes out of the Pepsi, so I said, yeah, where is she, she said, well if she'd normally get the buffet, she'd have to food, so I'm okay, so of course this is great big biffa, and let's say biffa, great big biffa at the buffet. I'm not biffa for you, it's not, honestly, it was the best thing to say, but she was, there's no wife getting around it, she was, she was, she couldn't get around her. Oh no, she was around about, she was, she was a large lady, but she liked the food, which is very nice, anyway, she's over there, so I'm gonna take you over, I don't leave you with her, so I hate it when people leave you, I've got established a relationship with him, now he's gonna leave you with his wife, and I don't know what this is going to be like, I don't know her, I know him, I've been with him for five minutes, I can deal with him, he's fine,

12:27but Pepsi don't know anything about Pepsi at all, so anyway I'll go over there, and he's texting her, there's Pepsi, and she's like, oh she's like, oh, and she's got a plate full of stuff piled up on paper plate, and because it's paper, it's not supporting what she's got on the plate, and it's all coming off the edges, and she's losing her crisp, and the peanuts are coming off, and there's such if she's kind of a bit of cheese and pineapple, she says, oh don't lose that's my favourite, she's doing what she's doing, and she's not even talking to me, she's just saving the food, right, it was like Titanic, she's there, and she's like, it was like Rose and Jack, can I put it, no, no, come back, and she's eating away as she's talking to me, and I'm just saying that I'm actually enjoying the show, and I'm telling her, she's saying blah blah blah, and she's spitting, she's doing Derek James and everywhere, and it's all going, and then she starts eating the vole of it, she's talking to me, and she holds a vole of it up to her mouth, and I hadn't noticed it before, but I noticed, as she told you up to her mouth, I noticed there's a hair, there's a big hair on the vole of it, I don't know, and she eats this, and she's going to gag on it, she's got a hoe, I look a bit like I'm a fervor, I have to do the Heineckman

13:30move, and I can see all hanging out in front of it now, I can't eat this one, I've got to stop her, and I went, and before you eat it, Mrs Mayor, there's a hair on, on, on, on, and that's I've grabbed it, and as I've grabbed it and pulled it, a top lip came away with the hair, and I know, and then a look of shock on her face, and she put the plate down like that, and just put a hand over it like that, and then ran away from it, so I never, I can't look at the front of the face ever again. Yeah, you ready for the last one then? Yes please. It's a nice story, this, this is the queen, I want to put the queen in the box then, which is great, I'll be really lucky, we're going to look back at, sometimes I take the granted really, a bit blouse out about the stuff and done, it's not until you do something like this, and you look back and go, well, I've done a lot of stuff, and I met a lot of people, a lot of great people, I've been to amazing places, I've done five or all of the right shows, I've done a few things at Buckingham Palace, independently, and they've all been an experience, or once you did one, it was about ten years ago,

14:34they did about a hundred years of children's literary thing, where there were these characters from children's books over the past hundred years, and they did it live from Buckingham Palace, it was directed by Trevor Nunn, strangely enough, right, and everybody was in it, it was just incredible, and I was playing the white rabbit, you know, from Alice in Wonderland, and a gentleman Ross was the fat controller, Jerry Hall was one of the best, I can't look through well at the wheel, I think she was, Ronnie Colbert was the BFG's Batlar, it was everybody, you know, at the time, it was bloody everybody was playing these different parts, and it was all about her losing her handbag and Tracy Beekweta getting back to her, and it was this thing, but Trevor Nunn, I've never just a fact of me doing giant sun-foot-white rabbit, been directed by Trevor Nunn, how did this happen to me? And it was rehearsing the afternoon, and it was a brilliant, and there was about two o'clock in the afternoon, we were going live at about six, and then so I've done my bits and pieces, and Trevor said, we won't need you for about three hours, no, if you want to just go and... Need some carrots?

15:34Yeah, do whatever you want to do really, so I went, okay, but I'm in full costume, right, in the grounds of Buckingham Place, and they had loads of kids from orphanage years, and there's different charity places that work there, all these kids come see the show live as well, but it was one of the places to be, and they had on the lake, they've got lake there in Buckingham Place, there's one, they had a pirate ship there, and the kids could come and watch it in the garden, yeah, and all the kids were coming down having a picnic on the pirate ship, so it was so, it was blisteringly hot as well, and I was in this huge white rabbit costume, when makeup was running, I was so I thought I'm supposed to go to the lake down somewhere, so I'd go to this find this tree near the lake, near the pirate ship, and I'd lay down under this tree, and I fall asleep, giant white rabbit under the tree. I don't know how long I'm asleep, but I wake up with someone kicking my feet, and the sun blinded behind them, so obviously it's sort of like two people, and I'm like that, and I've got to put my hand over my head trying to see what it is, and that can see there's two cupboards there, you know, and they've got machine guns out of their shoulder, because they had a lot of security there, obviously, for obvious reasons, and they're looking at me, and I was looked at them, and I went, hello officers, like that, and they just went,

16:38you were real rabbit, and I went, yeah, and they went, go back and sleep then, and they walked off, it was crazy, one of those ones got padded, what's this all about? So anyway, I've been really lucky to have a row of right shows, five of them, and one of them had the blue man group, remember the blue man group, from America, there was a big show in Vegas, and basically it was three guys that literally painted themselves blue, and they did all this acoustic and percussive stuff on stage, and it was very audio-visual, and it was a great show, and they did a bit in the show as well, a segment where they'd played all these drums, but it was literally painted blue, they're bolt-headed, painted blue in blue overalls, and they're doing this wacky stuff, so I've been booked to do my act on it as well, but then they came to me and said, look, I've got a blue man group on as well this year, Joe, do you want to do a bit of the blue man group, knowing that I was a fan of the show anyway, okay, I do, what do you want me to do? As well, I'll let you talk to that producer, and they'll come up with something that you could join in with, so I'd okay, great, and then what they come up with is they painted me blue,

17:42basically, they paint me blue, I've got my dinner suit on, but they paint me, get a pot load of paint and cover me in blue paint, and then they hang me upside down by my feet on a rope, and swing me from one side to the stage to the other, on a giant 20 foot piece of canvas, and I hit the canvas, and it makes some great big piece of modern arm, and then they were going to auction it off for the charity to go to the end of the show, okay, great, yeah, my end goes up yeah, why not? So we rehearsed it on, I think it was on Friday, we rehearsed it on Friday, and then you do the show live, we called it on the Monday, so what they did, the paint that they used, it was based on it, just got a load of eggs, basically, and then they stick blue dye in it, so it was all sticky and horrible, right? But as you know, eggs, if you open an egg and leave it in the oxidises for about three days, smells of fart, don't it? Oh, the eggs smell of fart, that's it, so they're lifted for three or four days, but it's on to get to Monday, they've got the whole vet of that blue paint, but they're mixed up on Friday, they're not going to make another vet of this, by Sunday, by Monday, rather, it stinks of poop, it stinks, right? So of course, they literally

18:48cover me in poop in fart, I smell of fart, I'm covered in fart, right? And they're covering this stuff, and then they're going to be upside down, and they swing me from one side to the other, like that, audience love it, great, I'll go upstairs, now I've got 10 minutes now to meet the queen, and I'm covered in poop paint, because right at the end of the shower, so I've left stairs, I'm in the dressing room, we're all yams in there as well, and I don't know what day the week was going, I was a bloke, bloke comes in, so I've jumped in the shower, I've still got the suit on, so I've got an old suit to put on for that bit, but I still stink, I smell of fart, I really do, and I'm going to meet the queen now, I've met with few times before, but even though you don't want to meet the queen smelling of fart, right? Not a guy, not a guy, and anyway, no, no, it's not a good thing to play. She'd forgive it once. Yeah, but try to, oh, you smell the sort of thing, not for the work, so she's come down the line and say, you can't say mama's in balm, it's in mom's in balm, okay, that's what you're saying, mom, oh man, oh man, not mom, because she's not your mom, because it keeps this whole speech from them, it's not, not mama's in balm, it's mom's in balm, okay, and you're ready, you're going this little poem, mama's in balm,

19:51is it what you want to say, mama's in balm, and all that stuff should have done, I do want to say balm, yeah, I do want to say balm, yeah, so she comes up there and I go, come on, hello, as she takes my hand, right, gently takes your hand like that, have you recovered? And I went from what mom, she went through your experience at the end upside down, oh yes, yes, thank you, mom, yes, I'm okay, a little bit dizzy there, but I'm okay, unfortunately, though, I'm minging, right? And the queen actually goes, she goes, I'm sorry, says I'm minging, I said the paint's made from eggs, so I'm minging there, and she goes, minging, what's minging, right? And I went, it just means that it's really smelly, because the eggs have been out all over the weekend, have been open and I'm minging, so I'm really smelly, and she had my hand, she lent forward, and she sniffed me, how many people can say they've been sniffed by the queen, she actually sniffed me, she went, oh yes, you are a bit whiffy, you know what I'm talking, yeah, so the queen's coming in now. Over 90 of the top 100 US accounting firms trust Bill to handle bill pay processes,

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22:59When your performance is so tied in to somebody else's performance, and you can see that when you look at all the fantastic clips there are of you, and that's a great thing about doing a lot of telly is there is an enormous amount you can watch. I've watched just over the last week or so, I've found myself just going through all sorts of different routines and I have to say Tommy, you know, I don't think at the time when I was a young man, I really quite appreciated the detail of what you were doing. No, I don't think when you do comedy, I think people only remember laughing, and that's great, but the hard work behind it all and getting it right, I mean, don't get it wrong, we didn't throw it right either, because that was part of the beauty of it, because I've got prime example of the Jimmy Talbot sketch, I mean, I never ever, even to this day, do you not know why I were laughing? I don't know, I've got no idea, and I just started to giggle, and that was it,

24:01and I thought for sure that direction was going to say, right coach, we just left it, boy, let it go, let it go, let it go, I was incredible. Well, because it's so unusual to see you go. I know, but it just left it in, and I was, and every time I see it, every time I put it on, and I watch it, I start laughing again. Brilliant, brilliant. There's a raw variety performance, I watched the other day, there was a bit in it, just a moment, I thought to myself, my god, I wonder how long they rehearsed that, because there was a fall from the stool, sitting on the high stool, and you should get off there, and it did a double fall, and you both went down, and it's so perfect, and it happens bang like that. Oh, yeah, in an instance, you just have to go for it, you know, we didn't even rehearse that, even when we did it before, we did it on TV, we just went for it, because if you're hesitant on you, it doesn't work, so you just

25:01got to go for it, you know, I mean, to be honest with you, when I'm sitting above your stage in my arms, he was 8th to 6th, so that was pretty easy, and he started to put weight on, I've got to earn you. Of course, you, as a double act, you had the great advantage that very few double acts have, that you can really sing. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, the thing is as well, Robbie Williams is song writer, has wrote me a song. Really? Yeah, I've got it here, on this piece of paper, and going down into stock at the end of February to record it. And Robbie, Robbie, a sent a message to me, makes sure I get this in this product, please, and it's a great song, it's, you know, a sort of a swing thing, I don't need to be hit, we're very close, don't sit, don't need a halter or a trend, you're so liberally friends,

26:05I don't need to be hit. Great song. Great song. Yeah, so I'm going to put that down, yeah. Well, of course, Robbie would also appreciate that history, he's got a sense of the old-style performers, and what came before, that's important to know, isn't it, I think. Yeah, I think it was strange, you know, when Robbie was working Manchester, I mean, 20,000 people, we were all the family, we're having a couple of drinks, and we're all doing this to one of his songs, so he texted him and said, Robbie, we're all the family's leader, and we're doing this, and we're seeing a song, and all that. And he said, oh no, Joey, he said, I mean, Manchester and he said, in two weeks time, bring all the family down and come and see the show. Well, of course, went down to the show, he came on, and from the minute he came on, I don't know, I don't know, what it was, I felt, I don't know, I felt something wasn't right, and he came on, he walked to the edge of the stage, he knew exactly what I was at, he turned,

27:10and he went right now. Oh, saluted. To me, saluted me. Wow. And I went, oh my, is that, is it not to me? It's not, and I woke up, he ran, thinking, that must come to me. And then he said, towards the end of his act, he said, the ledgem, and he said, there's a legend in my audience tonight, he said, and I'm going to dedicate this song to Tommy County. Wow. Tommy, Tommy, 20,000 people were going, Tommy, I was in bookings, I didn't know what to do, people were coming up to me, I was looking around for the ledgem, I'm looking for the ledgem that's him, not realizing, he meant me. Yeah. And then of course, I went down to see him in the VIP room, and he got all the maybe big hoogies said, Tommy, I love you, Nick, you're a ledgem. Wow. And I thought, I'll never, I'll never, I'll never forget it. No, never forget it. What an amazing thing. But rightly so, Tommy,

28:12I mean, it's easy for you to forget these things, because you just live your life, you know, but, but actually, if you look at your career, and you particularly look at your television career, you and Bobby together, Cannonabalde, that was an absolute mainstay of Saturday night television for, for, for, for, forever. Yeah, I mean, yeah, 20 million viewers ever started. I mean, I mean, I don't, and deck, forget it. Yeah, no, I know. But yeah, and I mean Bobby and I had a great career, never, never dreaming for one minute that we would end up like that. You know, it was fine, the only sad thing is that I'm now missing the part, and I'm not blessed, but I'm always looking down. Yeah. And he's saying, come on, you can do this boy. Get on with it. Yeah, keep enjoying it. Yeah. Indeed. Absolutely. You know, and then you find new things, you know, you say, you suddenly go hang on a minute. Yeah. I mean, I know I used to sing songs at the end of the routines we did, but there were moments in those shows where you'd sing songs and it was really beautiful, really moving. Thank you very much. Thank you. No, I mean, say it as I see it.

29:17Yeah. That's why I'm excited to see it. And the lovely thing is that we, really, this is all this is, is as chance to reminisce this podcast. Yes. I mean, I talk to people, I asked them to pick five things from their life that they put in a time capsule that they took a treasure. Four things that they, you know, really love. And one thing they want to put in there because they go, well, I'm going to put that and never think about it again. Never think about it again. Yeah, rid of it. Well, I've got some bits here for you. Oh, fantastic. Yeah. Well, okay. Well, let's have a look. Let's have a look at your list and see what you've got. Okay. Well, one of the things that I will always treasure, which I've got is a pair of bodies red rock on braces. Oh, wow. Yeah. I've got them. Yeah. Where did you get them? Oh, I've got them, I've got them for ages. When we did the tribute show to him in black gold, I decided I wanted a chair on stage at the end with a pair of braces over the chair and a pair of bushbook is on the floor.

30:17So I could say good night to him. Yeah. And I think the girl dances brought the chairs on and all that business. And I've had a painting of the chair. So your sport is under braces. I've had a painting of not painting them, which is beautiful, which I will always treasure. Yeah. Along with these, along with his braces, of course. It's a simple thing, isn't it? It's strange how these things catch on. But when you think of him, you'll always think of those hush puppies as well, don't you? The, the matter how smart the suit was. That's right. Yeah. There were those hush puppies. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, in days gone by, he used to wear the baggy suit you've never seen in your life. With a big belt around his belly and the trousers always used to be falling down. And he said, tell me, I suppose get a pair of braces. Well, that was as simple as it was. We didn't sit there and say, look, if you get a pair of braces, we could do this or we could do that. No, it was just just happened. We just said get a pair of braces and that, they're fine. And then the whole thing just developed as a prop. Yeah. Why? And then they kept falling off his shoulder. Of course,

31:21what he kept doing was putting his thumb in to lift him up over his shoulder. And then it looked so there. And then the rock on came from David Essex's song, Rock on. Rock on? Yeah. He was driving down to the gig. And he had David Essex singing the song. And in that days, I used to go on the stage first, which was ringing and it's singing the song. And then he'd come on. And he came on this night and he pulled his braces. He went for a rock on, Johnny. And I looked at him and went, what the hell? Was that come from? And he said, oh, David Essex was singing the song. He said, I just felt that through it. And then the whole country was doing it. The whole country was doing it. Same rock on top. Yeah. This is quite sad, actually. But my mom was, she died. She called it a blue disease, but I think it was leukemia. We didn't know it then. There's what it was. And she was later in bed. Bob and I had just been a nightclub. So I came back

32:21and went to the flat where she lived. And she were lay on the bed. And the nurse said, I'll leave you with a Tommy for half an hour now and I'll come back. And I said, I wish she said Easter. She said, oh, she's not with Tommy. She said, she won't be along. And I said, oh, god, and I sat there looking at her. And all of a sudden, she sat up in bed, pulled up right and she recited the Lord's prayer from beginning to end, lay down and died. Wow. And I'll never ever forget that in my life. No, it was incredible. It's quite extraordinary that things people do right at the end, isn't it? Yeah. They find strength sometimes. Yeah, it's true. I mean, and she's done God bless us. She was, she struggled for quite a few months, you know, with the blood diseases we call it in days. How old was she, Tommy? Oh, she'd be sixty-something, something like that, sixty-seven, sixty-eight minutes. Just young then. Yeah,

33:23cotton mill worker, all of that. Yeah. Stone, let's come to hear anything. She had one of these boxes on. What these just, you know, have to shout out boxes. Yeah, you know, with a wire going up and then. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, she was, she was, she was a lovely lady, a lovely lady. Bless your mum. Yeah. But I mean, the great thing is that clearly gave her comfort. Yeah, without your share of her death. I mean, I'll never forget the came up, the paramedics came up and they put her in like a bin liner sort of thing. It was in them days. Yeah. I thought to myself, I was sad. It's that. She's passed away and it's like the bin liner reminds me of the dustbin liners and stuff. You know, it was really, and don't get the wrong, it was, that's the way they did it in them days. They were all, they were all posh sort of putting them away, you know, the main, so yeah. But at least you know that she went. Yeah. Having said the Lord's Prayer and that made her feel good. I can go now. Sure. There you are, what an honour to talk to the great Tommy Cannon.

34:28I'm a lucky man. Right on to 2024 now, and this is a stand-up comedian called Ed Patrick. You may not have heard of him, but he is a best-selling author with his book Catch Your Breath, The Secret Life of Anisadist, which he toured as a stage show. It actually is an Anisadist with TV appearances, including have I got news for you and Friday night on Sky News. He's performed across the UK, including at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival. He hosts a comedian surgery podcast where he speaks to guests, including Joe Lysett, Rose Matafale and Phil Wang about their health stories and experiences. He also makes a podcast with Bilal Zafar, a past guest on this podcast, about the TV series Witcher. He created and presented infectious personalities with hat trick productions, broadcast on BBC Radio 2, with guests including Charlie Brooker and Sindu V, and Ed has written and performed on BBC Radio 4 for shows such as Now Wash Your Hands and News Jack. This is a chance for you to get to know Ed, as I did, and I'm very glad I did. This extract will

35:34not surprise regular listeners as it's me and Ed, but mostly Ed, who clearly knows what he's talking about, banging on about politics and the NHS, one of my favourite subjects. For his full pay restoration from what it was in 2008, that's all it is. You look at MPs, salaries, and how much they've gone up as well, so yeah, that's quite a deal. But I'm surprised, because they're now at a cost to the government with these strikes. They could probably have saved it all by just agreeing a decent pay package making. Literally, indeed. I mean, perhaps the Ruranda thing, they'll throw millions and millions and millions at lawyers and things like that, and it's not going to ever be a policy that's going to be workable. We're never going to have sort of an express plane that's taking people across

36:38there. Clearly, they think it's effective as far as their voters are concerned, which is why they're doing it. But it won't have any effect on immigration, I don't think, at all. No, no, not at all. No, it's nasty, really, more than anything else. It's like, what are those depressing things going on? Is it where you just think where's the humanity and everything? Yeah, quite. Well, I mean, I can't imagine that anybody goes into the health service without fundamentally a desire to help people. Yeah, well, in our country, certainly. I mean, you don't go into the NHS for money. If you want to make lots of money, then there's plenty of other places that you could do that. Obviously, in different countries, where it's sort of a private sector-led thing, like in America, then money is a thing that, but then also come on top of that is all the insurance and all that side of things too. The NHS is great to work for in terms of, you want to go into it because that is something that you want to do. It does. I think that's what the government has sort of found difficult as well when they thought they'll squeeze it and squeeze it, and then doctors will be tempted by

37:43all these different things. This whole collapse, the NHS system, that isn't why people got into the NHS. No, I think it's highly favorable. I just wait for an election, I think, maybe. I think that's it. I think we just need a sea change of everything. I'm not saying that the next government that come in is going to be the right one. It's just that I think it's so stagnated in the ways of what it's been, and we've gone through several health secretaries, and I'm pretty sure lots of other sectors could say the same thing. The problem is, if you say it enough times, there's no backing down. If you say we're not going to give in, this is it. This is the final offer. You're trapped. You can't negotiate, and that's the mistake they've made, I think. Yeah, well, that said, the BMA have really stood firmly by what they believe in, and really have got the support of the majority of all the doctors, basically. It's just costing the government more and more by the not doing it, but I don't know whether it's the political decision, do you know what I mean? Are they sending out? In my mind, I'm not. Well, if you look like you're supporting the doctors, and then suddenly everyone's happy in the NHS and things that's good for an

38:46election, but maybe politically, that isn't what they want to be seen to be doing, I don't know. Well, I think they think giving into any union is a weakness. It's seen by their voters as such, anyway. I really can't understand why they're so dogged about the NHS. Apart from it being an ideological thing that they fundamentally, despite everything they say, would rather the whole thing just went away, and they were allowed to bring in American companies and make money out of it. Well, I do think that's part of it, is just sort of trying to siphon in, because there is pockets of it that it's kind of privatised, and it's never any better. If anything makes it, it makes it just more complicated and convoluted. They talk about bringing in all the technology, and we're going to have all this AI and things. It takes you 12 minutes to log on to a computer at the moment, and we're still using bleeps, and there's lots of basic infrastructure. The buildings, oh my goodness, the buildings. If it was grand designs, they would tell you to give up straight away.

39:47It's that kind of thing. I'll never fix that. Because I'm currently going through a house building renovation. I'm looking around more at the infrastructure, and you're just like, this is a hospital. The problem is getting trapped in PFIs as well. This whole private finance initiative where companies build the hospitals and then rent them out and things like that, and then any alterations you want doing on them costs, thousands and thousands, all these. What happens is you'll hear a different story about things that are sort of undermining things in NHS, and it almost is exhausting to hear it. It's like not another thing that's kind of big. But realistically, with such a large organisation, you're always going to have a few rotten corners of it, aren't you? It's trying to make it as good as possible. It's lots of things. You look at management as well, and the sort of salaries there on, and then if something goes wrong, it's never that management's fault. They'll move on to another job,

40:50or another part of the NHS. Management isn't as accountable as being a medicine. Obviously, we've got regulatory bodies and things, but it's just like in corporate world, people can just leave and go somewhere else. So in fact, obviously, the thing to do is decide what I'm going to do is I'm going to write a book and I'm going to become a stand-up committee. I'll make my fortune. Except that'll be good. But what inspired you to write the book? I think what happened was what I know what happened. What happens is you do medical school, then you do a couple of years, doing your foundation years, so your first few years as a doctor, and then there's a natural break after that period, where some people take a bit of time off to go and work abroad, or they mix all different career options. The system was designed, I think, to get people into training paths quicker, but I think it's such a grueling first couple of years that people want to take a break and explore different things, like work abroad, so. At a pit time, comedy had started taking off, so I took some time off to focus more on that,

41:53as well as still working clinically and doing some teaching and things, and then I thought about doing anaesthetics. Always thought it would be something that would suit me personality-wise, but I was always scared of the idea of it as well. I used to love going watching comedy when I was younger, but I used to sneak me into a club in Nottingham, just the Tonic, and I was fascinated to love watching it, and the idea of doing it was just terrifying. It's the same with anaesthetics, but I'm like goodness, because the opposite of what you do, if you went to your GP and they made you unconscious and paralyzed you, that's generally quite a problem, but that's the now-the-day job sort of thing, so it was just the polar opposite of what you learn. One of my friends who was a need to said to me that don't worry about everything you feel like, you don't know, it's almost like starting medicine again when you do anaesthetics, because you do come from a different viewpoint, and it was like that, so I started on anaesthetics, and everything every single day was fascinating, but only because it was new to me, and I was acutely aware that the moment I got

42:54used to this, it's less fascinating, so I'd wrote down notes every day of things I was doing, and I thought this will be interesting for a book at some point, so I wrote down notes every day, and then obviously went into what happened with all the pandemic, and it brought into focus what anaesthetics and anaesthetics do and are, because we were manning all the intensive cares, which historically was all intensive care, it was all manned by anaesthetics, but we were all taken back there, so I think it just brought everything into focus, plus the fact that all my live work, all the other work that was doing, had stopped, whilst all that was going on, so my real outlet, creatively, was just writing, so that's how it all came together, is that I got all the notes I had written from before, plus everything that was going on now, and then I was just able to sort of focus it into book from then. Wow, it's an amazing thing isn't it? Well, you've got used to it, but the idea that in order, when somebody is critically ill, that you basically take all the strain off them by bringing them right back to the basic thing of just keep that heart beating,

43:56and keep them breathing, or in fact if you don't need that, we'll assist you with breathing, but just make sure that you go back to really almost a simple being, everything else stops, and you're doing that with medicine, you're giving them drugs to stop their brain panicking, stop all those things happening. Yeah, well medicine or poison depending on how you look at it. Well, yeah, I mean this was one of the things I was really fascinated with, and I mentioned in the book too, was one of the drugs we used is muscle relax and synanesthetics, so these are the paralysing drugs, which are based on the plant poison carare, and it was discovered by someone, because they were used by indigenous tribes, probably still asked for hunting animals, so then paralysed animals and stopped them breathing, and back in that time, the surgeons were struggling to do their surgery because patients were moving around, but if you give someone too much anaesthetic, then you're at risk of causing harm then as well, so the muscle relaxants came in to sort of aid surgery in certain areas, and it just fascinates me that we've developed it from an arrow poison

44:58essentially. It's extraordinary isn't it? Just last night I was watching David Attenborough talking about a frog, they've discovered a chemical on the skin of this frog that is 50 times more effective at pain killing than morphine. Oh wow, I've not heard of that. It was one of those, are they an arrow frog? I think it may be one of those, and they've got poison on their skin that puts animals off from eating them, but it also sadly talked about hundreds and hundreds of frogs going into extinction every year. Because we're now taking them for the pain relief, is that why? They're probably almost certainly, we're sucking on their backs. Lick of frog, that's the idea. That's the next level of street dealing isn't it? Is the amphibians just being marketed? Possibly. Over 90 of the top 100 US accounting firms trust Bill to simplify and secure Bill Pay. That's proven financial infrastructure built on over a trillion dollars of secure payments.

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47:00Anyway, this episode is from February 2025, and it's someone I've been trying to get on the podcast since we first started. Angus Deepen is one of my oldest and best friends. We met at university, but he's normally not a person who likes to talk about himself. He'd rather let his work speak for him, which it has done remarkably well. But finally, he said he'd record an episode. Not sure why, really, but I'm very glad he did. This is Angus and I, sitting in his front room, talking about how he got into comedy. But first, it's most memorable moment playing football. When I played in Socoray for the first time, they brought on this guy called Maradona. So I played against Maradona. Wow. And I can actually remember saying, as the corner came across, I'll take Maradona. So I think you stared into the middle distance for three hours. Life in my leading, yeah.

48:05Parano universe, who I think I'm in. But I did manage to foul him without the referee noticing. So I felt as if it was payback for the hand of God. Don't know if he saw it that way, but I like to think that was it's one all now. Well, the nation thanks you. Well, all right, I'm going to put that fantastic program in. It's in an amazingly good condition. Yes. Yes. Well, that's thanks to my friend, Mako, who kept it all these years. Lovely. Yeah. All right. That to represent the ups and downs with the joy of being a Manchester United supporter. Exactly. Lovely. All right. That's number one. So what's number two? Number two is a restaurant in Oxford called Adin's Manzel, which was in Walton Street, I think, a Walton well road. It was from one of those streets near Worcester. And it was where I first met a guy called Richard Curtis, because a friend of mine had got to know him while I was away

49:12in Paris for a year, because I was doing French in German and not because I just wanted to go to Paris for a year. And when I came back, my friend said, oh, yeah, I've met this guy called Richard, you missed him come and have a meal with us. And we went to have a curry in Adin's Manzel. And as a result of that meal, Richard rang up about a week later and said there were two people who have dropped out of the Oxford Review at the end of the festival. I was wondering if you and your friend, Philip Pope, who he'd also met that night, would like to be in it. And I barely set foot on the stage at that time. So I said yes, immediately. And B was more terrified before stepping out on the stage. And I have ever been since it was the most terrifying experience. But that all happened in 1979. And it was the beginning of what then led to the career that followed. But it

50:14all started in Adin's Manzel. It's still open. It's still going. I haven't wandered down Wharton Street or Wharton Road for a while. So I'm not sure if it's still there. I mean, curry house attend to stay, don't they? Yeah, they do. Yeah. Do you think then that, I mean, that's extraordinarily absurd. But do you think that if it hadn't happened, were you at all interested in theatre or performing? No, no. No, it was something that my friends did. And I had been forced to sort of play fourth attendant lord or man behind pillar and, you know, merchant Venice or Duchess and Malfi, things like that. But you had sort of three lines. I mean, I think the first thing I was ever in was called was Duchess Malfi. And I had two lines in it. One was I brought him here to have reconciled him to the cardinal. And it's a turning moment. It's a fantastic thing. Yes. It's the line on which the entire drama hinges. And the other was I shall fetch the

51:23a dark lantern. And to this day, I have no idea what a dark lantern is. Well, what would be the point of a dark lantern? Yes. Yeah. You brought it though. Yeah, I did it for that every night. So yes, I'd done that just to keep my, because all my friends were playing the lead parts, you know, but I hadn't, no, I hadn't really sorted it out. The social side of it really, just yeah, why not? Yeah, because because everyone else was interested in, interested in drama and reading English and so from that going to Edinburgh and doing that review, so in a way, everything leads and everything goes back to that moment. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Yeah. So that was directed by Richard Curtis. He then handed over the reins to me and to, for the, the following year. And we then produced the Oxford Review that included the radio station idea that then became a radioactive

52:26on Radio 4. Yes. Then became KVITV on television and, and then things began. And almost a greener of the brilliant actor. Um, Geoffrey Perkins. Yeah. Yeah. And Helen Atkinson Wood. Yeah. There was a fifth member of that. Quite a member. Yeah. Beard. Beard. You think? Someone said he's in a musical of the most amazing way, but I mean, I haven't allowed to go and see. Not about me. Although it is really. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so that was a long time ago. So who else was in, in that first review with you? Oh, golly, it was quite, it's a large-ish cast, but someone, Helen Fielding was in it. Wow. Yeah. Tim McInerney. Um, Helen Atkinson Wood. Richard Curtis was in it, because he was a performer in those days. I think there were a few around Philip Hope, who then went on to great things with a radioactive and yourself. And I think there was a few more, but I'm not sure that they were people who sort of stayed in

53:27the business, or if they did, they sort of did more behind the scenes. Yeah. For essentially. Yeah. Do you think then, if that happened, what was your aim? Where were you? Do you do don't have any plan at all? Uh, I quite enjoyed doing what I was doing in my year in Paris, which was teaching French kids how to speak English. So I think teaching English is a foreign language, Tefl, as it's known. That's, that's probably what I would have ended doing, because I had a few friends who'd done that. And I quite liked the idea of living abroad, being a foreigner for two or three years, and then moving somewhere else. And I know people who did it and traveled the world. And that's what I probably would have done. And you wouldn't have objected to that. Would you really? Because actually whenever you have a spare moment, that's sort of what you do, isn't it? Yes. Yes. I do. I'm very, very need to go abroad. We come on to that later, Mike. So, you know, jump the gun yet. All right. So that might be my third or fourth choice. Well, thank goodness for Richard Curtis. What, what will happen to him? Don't know. No, never heard of him.

54:30All from him again. No, he's, if we're very close, actually, Richard. My son is Richard's wife's godson. And I'm a parent to one of their kids. So, yes. And I've just bought a shack in a village in Suffolk. That's the same village as they live in. So I'll be saying even more than I do already. It is lovely, I think. You know, it's a big part of your life. And I'm not sure if you contemplated at all, but actually you aren't very good at holding on to your friends. Well, interestingly, this is definitely something I intend talking about later. So, so you've already anticipated two of my four. Yeah. Do you think I know you two? Yeah, slightly. Okay. This is going to ruin the whole thing. Well, you must go back to that restaurant with Richard sometime then and sit there.

55:30Yes, I don't know if he even knows that's the walk and he even remember that meal. He probably can't. But yes, he is definitely one of those people who kind of changes your life because I would never have been able to write or perform had it not been for his kind of tuition on both fronts. Yes. So he introduced you to the idea of writing to you hadn't written before. No, no. And the following, yeah, it said the following year, it was a mixture of his material and mine and then and then I started writing it on my own. But yeah, for about a couple of years, I would say he was sort of there. It was just kind of mental figure. Is it funny? I think if you said to people about your career, I'm not sure many people would cite you as being a writer and yet you've written some fantastic things. Well, yes, but always for myself. So I never really wrote for other people, so I didn't get a credit. But if you write for yourself anything that I would have presented, I would have written,

56:31or co-written, but you tend to just get the credit presented by and that's supposed to include writing. Yeah. But yeah, well, a radio actor, I suppose, it was the thing that I was probably most associated with as a writer with Jeffrey Perkins. And then, have I released for you the early days I was writing with Harry Thompson, the late Harry Thompson. And as I say, is there anything that I present on the whole, I have some hand in the writing, but it is one of those things that I can remember being told at a very early age in my career by a guy called Jim Moyer, who was I think head of comedy television. He said, whatever you do, don't stop the writing. Don't lose the writing. I didn't really, nobody meant at the time, but I realized looking back that it is a very crucial element that is quite easy to drop, because if you're getting a lot of work as a presenter or a performer, it's a lot easier to let someone else do the writing, but it is definitely a benefit

57:34to keep as many sort of balls in the air. So if you've got a talent either as a sort of director or writer or editor or whatever, then keep that going, because it invariably helps whatever else you're doing. Well, also, you're then in control as well of the quality of it. Yeah, yes, exactly. But I have to say, having said that, I remember when I got asked to do one foot in the grave, thinking how lovely it was that I didn't have anything to do with the writing or producing of it. And if it wasn't working, it was someone else's job to fix it. And it was very nice, because the writer was David Renwick on one foot in the grave, and it was very nice just thinking, okay, he does that. He does it very well. And I'm just kind of just like playing, you know, just performing is just fun. Lovely. I think most of my experiences of being with Angus have been about having fun. It's a tough life, but somebody has to do it. Okay, our final guest went out on the second

58:35of February this year. Not long ago, this episode was recorded in my living room as Mark Simmons, who is still on tour, was performing at Trinity Theatre in Tombridge Wells, not 10 minutes from my house. Mark had been on before, of course, but who could resist. Anyway, he couldn't resist the offer of a cup of tea and a nice chat. Over the years, big corporate greetings cards companies have stolen my jokes, Mike, and put them out there and made loads of money, and I haven't seen any of it. So I've gone into business for myself now. And I've got five greetings cards, and I've got you one. And my friend designed it. It's got one of my jokes. Each of them have got jokes of mine on it. So that one is my father worked. 12 hours a day to put food on a table. Great dad, slow cook. So yeah, so we're setting those at the end of the shows, the tour shows. And they're flying out like hotcakes. I bet they are. Yeah, they're so simple hotcakes.

59:37Should sell hotcakes. That would be the thing. I know. And then you can say they're going like merch. They go like my dad's house. Yeah, they said. So you've actually something I'm so funny. Can we excited about my tour show? But I'm really excited about the merch because it's such a new thing. And my friend, Julia Bird, the designs, and she's an illustrator, and they're really cool. And then you do a deal finally, get your money back as it were. Do you do one of those great companies? This is it. And get it in all the shops. Because Clinton doesn't exist anymore. I don't think. But the national trust dude, aren't they? Is that all right? But they've always got cards in there. But it's one of the things you buy in a national trust shop. This could be a game changer, Mike. Yeah, I have said to my agent, I think they could do well. Because they could quality. Yeah, you know, I've got James Mann. I mean, you know, if I say to you, Mark, would you like to call me? I'm very sorry. I've told my PR man. He's in the house at the gate. He's also works as a gate. And he's very good. That's in all the pool man. Yeah, absolutely.

1:00:40I'm not terribly terribly busy. I'm just counting my money as it comes through. But because I did, I put my last, so my last tour. So when I did this, I think I was just starting that's right. My first ever tour. First ever tour. And it went on for two and a half years. I just kept going and going, which is so cool. But that's the beauty of social media is people keep discovering you. So then more people want to come and see the show. But then I put that show out on YouTube as a comedy special. So now I can do what I want with those jokes because I'm not worried about people having seen them before coming to see me. Or all that sense of, it's very weird isn't it? People go, I've heard that joke. And in a way, what you're doing is you're close to the danger area with that as anything else because people would sort of, in a way, repeat your jokes for Beethoven. If you do a very funny sequence of stories that ends in a very funny moment, which most stand-ups do, somebody repeating that, they're just never going to quite get

1:01:41it, are they? No, they are easy to steal. But the best thing with musicians, they can play their songs and people want to hear the same ones again. But with comedy, the laugh, a lot of that thing with igniting laughter is the element of surprise. So if you know the joke, you don't laugh as big because the surprise isn't there. But saying that, we had a lot of people came back to see the tour sometimes, three times, which is madness, I think. But the line was built in a sort of any request. Well, that's like, oh, Jeff Row used to just do the same set in different orders all the time. And people used to love it because they thought, oh, I like this one. This is a good one. It's also true, though, of very good jokes that most people don't remember them. Most people speak. So in fact, you might start a joke and they go, oh, I've heard this one, but I can't remember how it ends. Yeah, I get a lot of comments when people leave. They go, I kept thinking to myself, I'm going to tell them that at work tomorrow. And then when they left, they were like, I can't remember any of them. And I was like, well, you have to come and see me again, then, won't you? Yeah. The trick is to remember one for the intro. So you say something,

1:02:47if it's an interval, you say it to somebody, you tell somebody, remember that joke there, and then put it in your head, you know, say just one joke, but so you see, I think, I saw the other week in London. And it had lots and lots of puns and city jokes. What was that? It was called Dracapella. Dracapella. It's a musical about the life Dracula. Cool. And it was very silly. And they sang every song acapella with somebody who doing beatbox on a microphone. Nice. It was amazing singers, but it had the one joke in it, which is, I've got this letter. It says, you must get here. You must get here. You must get here. Who's it from? The three musketeers. That's great. Good joke. I had a Dracula joke that didn't ever work, because I think people don't know. Oh, it's a bit loosely. If something about being on the radio, you know, when you go come in, but the thing with Dracula is you can't come in unless you invite him, but then fires. So something like something to do, but I can't even remember what it was,

1:03:50but it didn't work because not enough people knew the record. So then it's, and that's the thing with jokes is you could have a joke that technically works like scientifically. But if the people don't know the cultural reference, then there's no point just making two people and have a hundred love. As you stop the show at that point and say, look, look, let me explain you why that's funny. Well, exactly, but I have been known to do that. There you go. The great Mark Simmons. He's on tour at the moment, so book to see him. It's a riot. Right, that's the last of our February, the second clips. The more I think about it, the more bizarre the idea seems, but too late now. Actually, I do like the idea of somebody just tuning in in the middle of September and thinking, Mike Scott Madd probably always had been actually. This was a cast of production produced by John Fenton Stevens. So until next time, I'll leave you with Angus's radioactive thought for the day, which he first performed in Edinburgh in 1980.

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