EP. 482 Best to the Nest: March WRL

0:00Running a business means checking a lot of boxes. Let's see, payroll, check, inventory, check, insurance, ah. Good thing Simply Business makes getting small business insurance fast and easy. Check insurance off your list at simplybusiness.com. My name's Mackenzie and I started to go find me for the adoptive mother of a nonverbal, autistic child. The mother had lost her job because she wasn't able to find adequate care for this autistic child. So she really needed some help with living expenses, paying some back bills. So I launched a GoFundMe to help support them during this crisis. And we raised about $10,000 within just a couple of months. I think that the surprising thing was by telling a clear story and just like really being very clear about what we needed, we had some really generous donations from people who were really moved by the situation that this family was struggling with.

1:02GoFundMe is the world's number one fundraising platform trusted by over 200 million people. Start your GoFundMe today at GoFundMe.com. That's GoFundMe.com. GoFundMe.com. This podcast is supported by GoFundMe. I'm Elizabeth Reese. I'm Marjorie Punnett. This is best to the nest to the podcast that is all about creating strong, comfortable, beautiful nests that prepare us to fly. It's time for another edition of our Watch Read Listen. I've got some good ones. I'm sure you do too, Marjorie. I do. I am just going to confess two things this morning. What? One, there are tree trimmers outside. So if you hear that anybody just ignore it. It is spring. It's a celebration of spring, so it's happening all over my neighborhood. And two, I rarely admit this, but I am very, very tired. Are you? Yeah. I flew up to Chicago for the weekend, and it was just one thing after another.

2:02Seeing lots of friends, I went to a really beautiful wake and funeral. But then I flew home Saturday night, and I'm still not fully recovered. I know. I got home at two o'clock in the morning because of a mechanical issue on the plane, but I just have to give a shout out to the very lovely pilot that I was sitting next to for the whole flight, which is supposed to be in about an hour and a half, but we ended up being on the flight for about three hours. And the pilot of the plane came on and said, the engine won't start. There's an issue, but they bring this piece of equipment. We start the engine. Everything's going to be fine. And I don't love to fly anyway. I think I've talked about that. And in my head, I'm like, okay, just don't tell me that. Don't tell me, don't tell me the engine won't start because it's not like a car where you just get jumper cables and then you're off and running. This I think was the equivalent of plane jumper cables. Well, yeah. But we're going so that if the engine dies in your car, you've pull over. If the engine dies on

3:04your plane, it's a little bit of a different deal. I know they were talking about mechanical problems when I was flying to Hawaii a few weeks ago. And it was like, we've got some mechanical problems. So it's going to be delayed. They're doing this. They're fixing this. And it's just like, it never feels great. It's like, are we 100% sure that the fix worked? What are we are we turning it off and turning it back on? What are we doing here? And I think that our transparency actually is really good. I do. But I wanted to give the shout out to the pilot because there's nothing better than sitting next to a pilot and saying, big deal, not a big deal. And he went through and explained exactly what was happening. So I sort of had my own personal transportation consultant all the way home to Manhattan, Kansas. And he was very kind. And he was very funny about all of it. But it was wonderful. I wish I could insist on every flight. I have a full-fledged pilot with me to guide me through all of my questions. Yeah, like your emotional support pilot. That's what it would be. You should get that person on the plane. You listen,

4:05there are accommodations made for all sorts of people in 2026. That could be one of them for you. Oh, I love that. Your emotional support pilot. I love it. Okay. Well, before we dig into watch, we listen. Let's thank our fantastic sponsors. Oh, my goodness, healing insight in St. Paul. We're going to start with them. A sanctuary for women seeking answers beyond conventional medicine. This was founded by Dr. Sania May. She is an expert in acupuncture and functional medicine. I have my final cosmetic acupuncture session of my series tomorrow. And I'm already sad that it's over. Could you do acupuncture year round if you wanted to? Yeah, I do. I do it. I go once a month. Generally, when I'm in a good flow, I go once a month anyway. But when I go twice a week, it's really great for a human being. Yes. Healing insight specializes in women's health and supports women through every stage of life. Pregnancy preparation, fertility struggles, perimenopause, menopause and postmenopause issues like hormonal imbalance, fatigue, insomnia, mood swings, or even stubborn weight gain. You can find out more about healing insight at

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6:14Bridgerton wagon a little bit. You should get back on. I will. I will. So I think this was season three. I should have looked this up. I think it's season three. So it sort of follows the Cinderella storyline. I mean, the sets, the scenes, the clothes, the dialogue. It's just silly, silly fun. Oh, this is not it. And they had, they had dropped the first half of the Bridgerton season. It's on Netflix. If you, if you're not watching it, they had dropped the first half and then there were a couple of weeks in between and then they dropped the second half. So I watched four episodes in one day. Oh, yeah. That's what you should do. Just binge. Just binge. Okay. It is, it's season four that you're watching. Thank you for looking up. And then season five has officially been confirmed by Netflix and is expected to arrive as early as 2027 according to my Google machine. They've also renewed it for a sixth season as well. So it's going to continue. So how far did you make it? How many seasons? I think I watched the first two then. I don't think I've watched the third, but I can't quite remember. I'm almost jealous that you have three and four in front of you.

7:19Yeah. Because it is transporting, which is all I need sometimes. I just need to be in a different place. That's what I like. I just wanted to wash over me. I don't want to watch anything too stressful. I just, I don't really need it to change my life. I've got enough life changing things going on. Exactly. This is not stressful. And it's so funny to me that sometimes, I mean, I'm almost giggling. But it's so funny when it slips into almost soft porn. Wait, wait, wait, what's the difference? What's the difference? I know. And this one I think was less so than the first season. Yeah. But still, there are some, and you don't see anything. So that's why it's not even really soft porn. But they do do love scenes very centrally and very well. It is interesting to me. Now that you brought up porn, I'm glad you did, Marjorie, because I've been waiting to have this conversation. But I was just talking about this with someone recently that it is so fascinating how you can be an actor or actress doing what is essentially a porn scene, but you are considered

8:24an absolute legitimate performer. And then you could be doing the same scene, but with just a different intention. Right. And you are a trashy porn horror. I mean, I don't know what else to tell you. That's how the world views it. It's like there is you are either up for an Oscar or you are the shame of your family, Marjorie. It's wild to me how it can be the same. It's like how drinking vodka in the morning on ice is unacceptable. And we would have you called an alcoholic, but if you add some tomato juice, it's a legitimate bloody Mary and it's totally fine to do. I think this stuff is wild. Okay, that's fascinating. Now on the issue about I love the comparison, but on the issue about doing sex scenes, my understanding in a Oscar nominated film where there's a sex scene, there's never any sex actually happening. And they have all have body gloves on.

9:27Everything's covered. It's never supposed to be skin to skin. And there's no, and I'm not going to use all the other terms, but nothing's really happening. It's the idea that it's happening. In porn, it's happening. And so there is a difference, but to your point, fine line though, Marjorie, it is a fine line. It's a body glove line. It's as thin as a body glove, the line. So, yes, but I like the vodka morning. That's great. I've been watching shrinking on Apple TV. And I had never watched it. My best friend was like, you have to watch this show. It'll be your favorite show on television. Everybody says this. And finally, when I was on my way to Hawaii and learned that on American Airlines, they don't have screens. You have to use your own screen. I was shocked by this. I decided, okay, I'm going to watch this because it was the first season was available. And then I immediately subscribed to Apple TV so that I could start watching the rest of it. And I am just loving it so much. I'm loving it like I loved Shits Creek. I'm loving like,

10:34it just feels like that to me in terms of just I have such love for the characters. I just love the conversations. It's making me laugh. And I can't wait to continue to watch it. So now I'm all the way caught up. Season three is dropping. They drop it every week. And so I've just been Wednesday watching it. And I am so delighted. So if you haven't gotten into shrinking, which I know you have Marjorie, but if you as in our collective group of nesters, I am jealous of you because you have the most joyful journey ahead of you. I saw somebody caught like a grief omity. Yeah. I think that I think I just made that up. But it's it's a lot about grief. It is. And I won't go into any more other than that. But what I love about it is it is about a friend group. But the friend group and supporting one another, but the friend group is intergenerational. You know, where's friends was all the same age and they're all living in New York and they're all having the same experience. So writers on the show have done something really wonderful about having it be

11:38everybody's going through different issues, but they're issues that represent the generation with which that person's living in. And so you get this intergenerational feel of how different ages can help each other. Yeah. And then the main characters are therapists. And so all of that makes it I think a really rich show in that sense. As we were talking recently about AI and how this AI relationship situation could allow people to totally bypass the discomfort of having intimate close relationships, not just romantic friendships and all of those things with flawed human beings. This reminds you that the human's flaws is the most joyful part about the human. I mean, really, even down to people who have really made huge, huge mistakes and are still able to find the humanity in them and the beauty in them and empathy for them. And that is the

12:40thing that I'm just loving so much about the show. Plus Harrison Ford, what do you want? What do you want? You want more than Harrison Ford? There's nothing better than Harrison freaking Ford. He's so darling in this show. He's just really wonderful. But you make a great point. And I think that's so that that show is hitting at a time where people whether they know it consciously or not are searching for connection and human connection. And the show is all about human connection. That's a really great point. You should tell me that every episode. That's a really great point. I can do that. I want to connect with you Elizabeth. So far I've gotten to the vodka and the bloody Mary thing. Yeah, you're hot this morning. Hot, hot, hot. I know. I have a killer sleep score last night. I was like on fire because I went to this amazing experience last night that we might have to talk about in a future episode. That's I'm just going to tease it there. I'm not going to say anything else. You're not going to tell me anything else. No, I'm not going to tell you anything else. We're going to have to do another episode about it. How I got my best sleep

13:41score ever. Do you want that to be an episode of best to the nest? But I don't like not knowing. My six-year-old's going to come out. Okay, so reading. I'm still working on the Stephen King book on writing. Shouldn't be taking me this long. I'm going to share a little gem from that because I think it's so cool. So Stephen King wrote the book Misery, which if you haven't seen the movie, it's with James Con and Kathy Bates. So anyway, he was talking about writing Misery and it's about a woman who takes a writer hostage and begins to torture him. And it's, have you seen it? No, it's too scary for me. Oh my gosh, I don't like horror movies. It is amazing. It's a great movie. Did I tell you about the time I met Stephen King? That was that was amazing. Yes, continue though. Oh, we'll get back to good tease because we're going to get back to that. Real quickly, he was also in on writing. His book he talks about and I hadn't realized this that he was an addict.

14:41Alcoholic and drug addict. And all the best ones are murdering. Exactly. And he wrote Misery in the Throws of Addiction. Wow. And Annie, the character Annie is drugs. And I thought, whoa, that's powerful. So that's really cool. So tell me your Stephen King story. Well, okay, so Stephen King was in town because there was a big like writer's book event going on in the Twin Cities. I don't even remember what it was. And he and a bunch of other author nerds who are just super cool have this band and they play together. And it's like a bunch of these guys could get an interview with them if we went and interviewed the band. And so I had to go to his hotel room, which sounds weirder than it is because it was like a giant hotel suite where they were all hanging out. Oh, this is great. And when I walk in the door, Stephen King, who is notoriously kind of socially awkward, a little bit quirky, a little standoffish, he approaches me

15:46and fully embraces me. Full hug. I hadn't met him. I didn't know him. Full hug turns out he thought I was someone else. He thought that I was this author, this female author. And I'm forgetting her name, so I'm kind of wrecking this story. But when I went back later and looked up who she was, I was like, oh, she looks like me. We looked very similar. And so I could see why he thought that I was her. And I think he was expecting her to be and they were friends or whatever. So he embraces me. And then I was like, oh my gosh, hi. I'm loving this. This is great. And then he immediately was like, I am so sorry. I thought you were so and so. And it turned to this whole thing. It turned into a very funny bit. It was very fun. He was awesome. But my, the photographer who came with me was actually our former executive producer who was a photographer because he is such a huge Stephen King fan that he begged to be able to come and shoot it. So we went and he got to meet him

16:51and the whole thing. And it was really delightful. Yeah, but I love that because it probably gave the interview such a great tone. We all laughed and had a great time. Oh, that's, oh, that's a great story. It was very fun. Okay. Well, I'm reading something different than Stephen King. And I actually brought the book here to show you Marjorie. It is called The Light Eaters by Zoe Schlinger. And you know, I'm always into nerdy plant things. But this one, the subtitle is how the unseen world of plant intelligence offers a new understanding of life on earth. And I started reading this on the beach in Hawaii and the micro friends were like, of course, this tracks. This is the kind of thing that you're reading. The rest of us are reading like romcom books and you're reading some book about plants. But I was learning about ferns in this book. And it's so like, it's just so interesting. And I really think I was never particularly strong in science. I don't think I was even very interested in botany or anything like that until I got older, which I also think is a

17:53delightful thing about life that you can just become interested in whatever you want to become interested at any point in your life. But I was learning about these ferns. And ferns will, so their seeds go all over the place. Okay. And then the seeds land in different places. Researchers have found that ferns are so smart that they will be able to recognize when a fern seed is one of their siblings. And if it is one of their siblings, they will shift their leaves to allow more light to get to the fern seedlings so that it will have a better chance at growing. Can you believe that? Why do we ever think we are the smartest beings on this planet? We should never think that because it's just incredible. And that's just happening all the time. And you know how I love the theme of this podcast to be that we are simultaneously living this one beautiful, precious life while at the same time being virtually insignificant

18:58when it comes to the entire creation and how stunningly beautiful that juxtaposition is. This is this is why like this kind of stuff makes me just so it's just such confirmation of that place. And then it just lets you enjoy the ride and let go the pressure because everything is happening without you doing anything. I do love that. I also love the metaphor of spreading your leaves in a way that allows more light to your siblings. So to all the oldest siblings out in the world, I'm the baby of the family. Spread the leaves for God's takes. Let the light through to your siblings. That's fantastic. Oh, I'm going to have to read that. It's totally good. Yeah, I'm not that far into it. I'm, you know, I just started it on the beach and then I took a nap. So I mean, I wasn't really deeply reading it, but I'm excited to just continue that. And then even, of course, I was mentioning to my friends that I read the book,

20:00Braiding Sweetgrass, which I've talked about on this podcast by Robin Wall Kimmerer. And then it turned out that I was looking at the cover of the book. And one of the endorsements is a masterpiece of science writing for the light eaters from Robin Wall Kimmerer. You're in the club. You're in the club. You're in the club. You're in the club. She'll embrace me if I meet her in some sort of hotel room. Would that be lovely? If every author just hugged us every time we met them. I do want to note, I am reading, and this is just a short thing, but I think it's worth pointing out because I think it's just really well written. And it was very interesting. In the Atlantic this month, there's an essay, How America Got So Sick, the health of a nation reflects the health of a democracy by Van Newkirk. He wrote one of the better measures of society's vitality is its ability to protect its citizens from disease. And the two often move in tandem. A decline in one may produce a reduction in the other, which I think is just a fascinating thing to think about as we think about health care and all of the other issues that are swirling around that, vaccinations, all of it. But then I came across

21:04in this article as a bit, a really weird statistic. In 1946, I want you to guess what the life expectancy of an American was. In 1946. 67. Pretty good. 66. Yeah. I'm about to be 62. I know. That's crazy to me. Yeah. I wonder if that's adjusted for infant mortality, though. I always wonder about that, too. I don't. It may be. It may be. Because that is that's a tricky one, you know, because they'll always people will be like, well, back in the caveman days, people only the average life expectancy was 35, but it was also like a lot of babies died before they were one. So then you really bring down the stats without. In 1946, 34 out of every 1000 children would die before their first birthday. Yeah. So, but I don't know. I don't know if one statistic feeds into the other, but still sort of shocking and so much to be grateful for for how far we've come

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26:17some dance music. There's some real dance music in here too. And I was watching. He does an interview for Apple TV. I think the interviewer's name is Zane Lowe. He does it every time he has an album. So it's an hour long interview. And it's so funny because I really like him. And I figured out that I like him because I think he would be such a good son. Like it's not like, oh, Harry. It's like, oh, you're a good, you're a good son. He's just seems like a really sweet human being. I hope that actually is true. But every time I see him at interviews, he seems super thoughtful. And I think his music is so particular to him. And I think that's the beauty of art. It's so particular to him. So it's his own style. Yeah. And it's just what what month is it? We're in March, April, May, June, July, August and I'm just six months down at the concert. Oh my gosh. It's going to be very exciting. Oh, that's going to be very exciting. So I listened to an Oprah podcast that I thought was really particularly interesting. And this one was with

27:23Jennifer Wallace and Ina Garten. I know the Barefoot Contessa, one of my favorite people. I do love her so much. I'm a big fan of hers. I thought this was worth listening to. So the episode came out on January 27th. And it's titled how mattering to yourself and others can change your life with Oprah, Jennifer Wallace and Ina Garten. So this one, Jennifer Wallace happens to be a very good friend of Ina Garten's. What's interesting is that Jennifer wrote this book called mattering the secret to a life of deep connection and purpose. And she has through tons of research. She did, she researched this for six years, talks about how this feeling that we are valued and have an opportunity to add value. That's how she defines mattering. That that is a fundamental human need and it's absolutely essential to our well-being. So she is making the argument that over time there's been this erosion of mattering and that is really a significant part of the difficulties

28:24that we have as a society in America that we don't feel like we're valued and we don't feel like we have the opportunity to add value. And so if you don't have that core internal feeling, then what are a lot of us doing? We're seeking for, we're seeking external things to kind of mimic that or give us that feeling which will never be achieved, right? You have to find that within yourself. So I thought the conversation was great. It made me think a lot. It made me want to read the book. I haven't read the book yet, but I would like to. And it's again, it can be tempting to just go like, okay, well, if I just had this, then things would be better. If I just had this, if I had that. And it's just, it's like Satan right there. It is the, it is the darkest temptation because it's like this temptation that this will solve it and it never will. I think we should make a pact and we should both read the book at the same time and then do a podcast on it. Let's make a pact. Okay, prick your finger right now. I want to have a pen drop and multiple drops of blood. I love that conversation so much because I think

29:31I just, I just know that it's foundationally true. Yeah. I just know that if you don't feel like you matter at work or you don't feel like you matter within your family or within your community, I truly feel that that's why depression is at such high rates is that when you lose a sense of service, I just, I think that that's always been such the key to feeling good about yourself. Yeah. Is feeling like there's a reason I'm here. Yeah. And that you add value. It's so interesting because you know, we do this thing at dinner whenever we're having family dinner, which is like a lot. I mean, not every night. I wish it was every night, but it's not. And we were all, everyone and we were even kind of eating different things last night, but we were all around the island eating and we do what was the best part of your day. And Jay yesterday said that it was coaching Frankie's hockey team because they just wrapped up their season. And Jay was the coach and he like really loved seeing the kids develop and just had even more fun with it

30:32than he thought he was going to have. And then he said that the other best part of his day was lending his chainsaw to our neighbor Pete. And I was like, this is so great. I said because I was like, and then the kids were like, what? Because they didn't even really realize that he'd blunt the chainsaw because he just like texted Pete got the chainsaw, you know, Pete came over into the chainsaw. There wasn't a parade about it. It wasn't a huge thing about the chainsaw. It was just Pete. And Pete had piped it on the neighborhood WhatsApp and said, and I know Jay doesn't check that. So I just said, Hey, Pete needs a chainsaw. If you want to give it to him. And then I didn't hear anything more about it. And then all of a sudden the chainsaw was out. And it was just such a reminder. And I was like, that's because daddy helped somebody like when you help someone else, it becomes the best part of your day and just that little thing. Because then he probably went and had a conversation with Pete. And it was very nice. And it's just doesn't have to be this huge thing. You don't have to dedicate your life. You don't have to be like, okay, I'm

31:36dedicating my whole life and to whatever. It's just lend to the chainsaw. Lend the chainsaw. It's it's like even for me, there are two things about this that I love. So we are going to I don't I didn't see your blood. I didn't see you dripping. Oh, sorry, for that stripping right now. I got to put it in. Thank you. Thank you. Um, I don't know my blood type, but I don't think we need that for the past. Well, whatever. All right. I don't think it requires telling you your blood. I didn't know how it was. Oh, no, no. But there are two things. And and it's as simple. I love about the chainsaw. It's as simple as so where I live for some reason. And we live near high school. And so for whatever reason, I think it's the high schoolers like to throw their trash. Oh, over. And so they'll be like cans. It's not a ton, but they'll be like cans and wrappers. And so my gosh, these kids today, that's terrible. I know. I know. So I'll go out and I'll just clean it up. It's it's probably technically city property. But I always feel like I've done my little part for the day. And that makes me feel good because it makes me feel like this is my street. It's as important to me. So I do

32:36that. And that makes me feel good. So that goes back to the little thing. And then what I noticed after my husband died is I used to do a lot of little things for him as we all do for our spouses. I mean, marriages all have like the little things that one person does always. Yeah. So much. I do so many. So many. You want me to start listing him? I'll start listing. You know how many things? But I would make coffee for him. Always. Yeah. Always. I would always bring him a cup of coffee. And that's just a small sort of one of the small things that was just so so much a part of the pattern of my life with him. And when he died, if you're in a close relationship with the person you're living with. And then sort of that that part of your life is yanked away. Of course, I miss him. But what also gets taken away are all these little things that sort of gave me purpose in the day, making him a cup of coffee. There were lots of little things that just over time I knew that he loved. So I would make sure that they were just a part of the habit of the day. And I just think about that was a really hard part of grief to overcome. That actually was a big

33:43part of when I could feel myself tilting into depression. Because you do you feel like, oh gosh, I'm sliding in that direction. Yeah. Like the canoes about to tip. And I realized that was a big part of it is that doing those little things gave my days purpose. And without them, I had to find different little things that gave my day, just little things that gave my day purpose, hence picking up the trash. I think as we move into this new era, which is coming, and I think we've covered AI pretty well on this podcast, that this idea of finding your purpose and leading a purpose driven life is going to take on even bigger importance. The discussion is going to take on even bigger importance because there are going to be lots of people that are going to need to understand life is worth living. Even if your job changes or you've been laid off, there's a reason to be here. So this is a good one. Elizabeth, this is a good one. Yeah, take a listen. Okay, very good. Now we wrap up our watch read listen with what we're eating because you unilaterally added

34:44that category to this this tradition that we have here. And I support it. Bossy chick that I am. I in Chicago had I went to a little corner bar that's called the village in because a bunch of the friends that I was with said, this is what the Uber driver said, this is the best pizza in Chicago. Now for me, I had never heard of it. So I was skeptical that this was the best pizza in Chicago. But it's thin, thin, thin cross pizza. And I got to say so, so good. So village in and Skokie. Really great. Nice. Really, really good. Been a long time since I had pizza and nachos on the same night. I have a recipe to share as what I ate because I ate this last night. And I had a friend of mine who's a fellow hockey mom tell me that she made this recipe of mine and loved it so much. And her husband was like, oh, it was so good. And so I made it again last night. It is the egg roll in a bowl. This is not anything fancy. You can find a thousand recipes for an egg roll

35:46in a bowl. But it's essentially you use ground meat of your choice. I did ground chicken last night. We could do pork. You could do turkey. I could probably even do beef too. But you know, the other ones have a little bit of a milder flavor to add the flavorings in. A ton of ginger, a ton of garlic. I do mushrooms and then a bunch of cabbage. And then I add just some hoisin sauce, some soy sauce, rice vinegar, a little fish sauce, sesame oil. And then I just mix it all up in a big walk or like a large skillet, whatever you have, and then serve it over rice. And I made it last night after I got home. And I was getting home a little bit late. So we'd ordered the kids a pizza. And then I made this for Jay and myself. And we both just stood there. And I was like, could you eat this every day? He's like, I could eat this every day. Like you just, it feels so good. It's got tons of veg. And the thing I like about it from a meal stamp meal prep standpoint is that it reheats beautifully.

36:50Oh, that's so I'll eat it for lunch today. And the cabbage and cabbage and mushrooms last a long time in your fridge. So if you're thinking like, okay, what can I make on like Thursday or Friday or whatever, that's not going to go bad. Then I can just have, I mean, I'll keep the cabbage and the mushrooms in my fridge for a couple of weeks. It's really easy. And they last. And then I can whip this up any time. And I always feel like a million bucks takes me 20 minutes. The rice is 15 minutes once you bring it to a boil. So in total, the whole thing takes 20 minutes. I feel great when I'm eating it. And I feel great after. And to me, that's top notch winner. So search for any egg roll and a bowl recipe. Certainly customize it with whatever vegetables you like. But my real basic version is posted on my blog, which I've linked up in the show notes. So if you're interested in making it, I think you would love this, Marjorie, because you could make one with one pound of meat and the vegetables. And you could eat it for three days. And you would love it. I do love that because the way that I eat because I'm cooking for myself is I will buy like a pound

37:52of ground chicken and I'll cook it all at once. Yeah. And so I could actually do that and just throw. And I make different things with the ground chicken all week long. Oh, I love this. And I'm a little bored with my own things that I've been making. And I know this sauce it like I mentioned like five different ingredients for like the sauce. But I promise like you just have those things in the pantry. And then they just sit there. I mean, they sit there and then you use as needed. I just want everybody. If you can't hear the tree trimming, it's because are the way that we edit this podcast will take away the sound. But if you can hear it, it is a lovely sound this morning because I left for Chicago last week. I came back on Saturday and my tulips are coming up. And I know the tulips are coming up. And I live facing some woods and I can see the buds are beginning on the trees. Yeah. The leaves are beginning to come out. And so spring is here. I know just remember as you walk around that the ferns

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