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EP#397 | DSD | Larry Bird, AIPAC, Jared Kushner, & The NWO

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🎙️ EP397 | DSD | NWO

This episode dives into the idea of a “new world order” and the broader feeling that global power is shifting in ways most people are only starting to notice. The conversation opens with a lighter Larry Bird story before turning sharply into politics, media clips, and commentary on influence, power, and the direction of the U.S. and the world.

From there, the episode moves through commentary on Israel, AIPAC, Trump, Jared Kushner, J.D. Vance, George H.W. Bush, Obama, and other public figures tied to the language of global restructuring. The core thread is skepticism: skepticism toward political parties, global elites, official narratives, and the idea that major world events happen without deeper coordination behind them.

The big takeaway is a growing sense that something disruptive may be coming next—whether economic, geopolitical, or cultural—and that people need to pay closer attention to rhetoric, alliances, and patterns from the past. It’s a wide-ranging, provocative episode that blends sports nostalgia, political distrust, and a warning to stay alert.

🔥 Top 5 Key Points
• Larry Bird trash-talk stories highlight a simpler, talent-first sports era
• The episode questions U.S. support for Israel and broader foreign policy motives
• Jared Kushner is framed as a major power broker inside the Trump network
• Repeated “new world order” language is examined across multiple administrations
• The host warns that another major life-altering event could be on the horizon

🔑 Keywords & Themes
New World Order, Trump, J.D. Vance, George H.W. Bush, Obama, Jared Kushner, Jeffrey Epstein, AIPAC, Israel, Netanyahu, Brian Mast, Sean Ryan Show, CIA commentary, geopolitics, Iran, Ukraine, Putin, Zelensky, globalization, NATO, uniparty, global elites, false flags, media narratives, political distrust

Chapters & Timestamps
00:00 Intro
00:14 Larry Bird trash talk story
01:53 Simpler America and old-school NBA reflections
03:07 CIA clip on AIPAC and Israel
05:36 Trump, base erosion, and political disillusionment
07:59 Jared Kushner, Epstein comparisons, and grift politics
11:13 Fear of a coming COVID-like disruption
14:03 J.D. Vance and “new world order” rhetoric
15:56 George H.W. Bush and the original NWO framing
17:20 Montage of leaders using NWO language
20:08 China, global power, and competing world systems
21:36 Obama and the case for a single global order
22:44 Final warning on war, false flags, and public manipulation
24:13 Outro + book plug

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Top 7 Key Points
🏀 Larry Bird Stories Still Hit
🧠 NWO Rhetoric Is Back
🇺🇸 Trump’s Base Is Fracturing
💰 Kushner Represents Power Grift
🌍 Global Elites Stay In Focus
⚠️ A Major Disruption Feels Possible
🎧 Stay Alert To The Patterns

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EP#397 | DSD | Larry Bird, AIPAC, Jared Kushner, & The NWO

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Free audio post production by Alphonic.com. The following podcast is a deep shallow dive production. And you're gonna love it. Okay, let's go. Would you consider yourself a trash talker? Not really. I mean, come on, come on. There's a lot of people doing that. To demean people. I did it for fun, most of the time. Burden talk trash. Oh my god. Burden talk trash to everybody. I always tell the story about Larry Burd. I remember him. He was person on his breath. And I asked him, I said, Larry, what's going on with you? He says, you guys are being disrespectful to me. And I says, what are you talking about? He says, you guys are putting a white guy on me. This was respectful. The story goes that when he played against Denver, they had a guy named John Hansley. A white guy, a really good defender, right? Okay, okay. They put him on Larry and Larry was wearing his ass out. And Larry would run by the bench and tell Doug Moe, who was the coach, get him off me. That's disrespectful. Put a black guy on me. Because when he played back in the date, that's all he played against his brother.

What's up, everybody? Happy Friday. All right, mix it up a little bit. I told you guys, I'm mixing it up. I love that story. They're talking about Larry Burd. So that was Charles Barkley and then Byron Scott, if anyone is a NBA fan and an old school NBA fan like I am. And they were talking about how in that story, obviously, Larry Burd was feeling disrespected because they were, they put a white guy on him to guard him. That is hilarious. That is seriously hilarious. The reason I played that is because, man, lately, I've been like going back and obviously the, the interviews that I should, that I've played with the show of Iran and Mike Wallace from 60 minutes. And then, you know, just like these older guys reminiscing about the NBA and, you know, you've got these guys that obviously give Larry Burd his due, you know, he's a white basketball player. In an era where it was dominated by black basketball players. I mean, obviously it still is.

But like, I just love that those guys don't see color and they don't see racism or anything. And all they saw was talent on the basketball court. And, you know, I love, I love listening to these stories from these guys talking about that era. And then, more importantly, I just really do. I look back and it was a much simpler world we lived in. And a much simpler America. And in so many ways, a much better America and a much better world. So anyway, kind of started that for, for, for those multiple reasons or I wanted to start with that for those multiple reasons. I've got another hilarious clip from Nolan Richardson who was giving a speech about Larry Burd. I'll play that at the end. But anyway, all right, listen, let's see. What should we talk about? Oh, I've got another good clip for you guys. Here's another former CIA guy.

And he is on the Sean Ryan show. Remember that guy talked about him back in the day. The Sean Sean Ryan, former Navy SEAL Sean Ryan. And so here is another CIA guy talking on the Sean Ryan show. And this is interesting. If you listen to the past couple of episodes, you'll know what he's getting at. Here, here we go. Ready? I think our country is occupied. Who do you think we're occupied by? Hey, Pack. A lot of people think that the evidence is all there. It's, it's, oh, come on. We spend eight, we send $18 billion a year to Israel. Why? Just ask the question, what do we get out of it? Nothing. We get nothing. Are we doing humanitarian work? No, they're charged with genocide.

They're killing off Palestinians. Are we helping them survive? Oh, they've got a higher standard of living than we do. The longer lifespan than we do, free education, free housing, free healthcare, or we're sending them money. Why? Ask yourself why a U.S. congressman can wear and is really military uniform in congressional chambers. I would think that would be an act of treason. Let me jump in real quick. He's talking about Florida congressman Brian Mast, who's a guy that, I mean, this is insane. He wears his Israeli IDF uniform in Congress. This dude's had his legs blown off. I forget what it was, what war it was. Oh, my God. If there's ever someone that deserves it, nah, I shouldn't say that. I shouldn't say that. That's not nice. Although karma, karma, karma does come at you. Anyway, that guy's terrible.

But they did. Nobody said anything. Ask why the Israeli prime minister can bypass the president, fly directly in and speak to our Congress, without any other government interaction. I didn't know that could happen. Oh, yeah. And now who did? Blue straight in, bypass the president. Talk to the Congress. Congress gave him 26 standing innovations. Our Congress gave Netanyahu a foreign prime minister, 26 standing innovations. Man, I'll tell you what, man, there's a lot of people talking about this now. It is definitely not. It's not going anywhere. And what I think is, honestly, what I think is a little bit scary is, I don't think Trump cares. Or the entire Republican party in the administration. Again, I mean, I don't know. I guess you could say they don't care.

Or maybe they can't do anything about it. But the bottom line is, they're not adjusting course at all. Okay. And I literally think Trump has lost, I mean, before I said it was 50, 50, I think he's lost 75% of his base. I'm not even kidding. I think he has lost a ridiculous amount of his supporters. You know, his approval ratings are at an all-time low. You know, nobody really takes him seriously. Although there is a, there's still a little group of the Mad Tards as my buddy calls him. And a lot of those are Gen X and maybe baby boomers that are still, you know, die-hard Trump guys. But the rest, man, they're out. People are out on him. And again, whether, whether he just cannot, I guess, change course. I mean, I, you know, again,

there's two schools of thought here. One is, he just doesn't care. And this has been who we, who he is the entire time. And he fooled everybody. Okay, plausible. The second course is, he is under duress. And he can't do anything about it. Even if he wanted to, he can't. Again, plausible. So, all right, we'll see what happens. Let me play this clip in ironically, it's going to tie again. Some talk from previous episode in regards to Jared Kushner. So this guy, this is an Asian professor, his name is Jean Giong. And man, he's, he's gotten really big on social media. And so, you, you might recognize his voice, or if you saw him, you might recognize him. But give this a listen. He's talking about Jared Kushner. When Jeffrey Epstein died, who replaced him? And, and, and then you asked yourself, okay, who is Jared Kushner?

And why is he involved in Ukrainian peace negotiations? Why is he an envoy to Israel on behalf of Trump? And why is he participating in the Iranian peace negotiations? See if with Kov and their Kushner are onwards who went to Ukrainian negotiate with Putin to end the war. They met with Zelinsky to end the war. They are very close to Netanyahu. And then they represented Trump in peace negotiations with the Iranians. Who are these people? Right? Jared Kushner is replacement for Jeffrey Epstein. And that all makes sense. If you think about that way. That's a pretty wild statement. Jared Kushner is a replacement for Jeffrey Epstein. I don't think that. I don't, I don't agree with that. Mainly because I don't think Jared Kushner is trying to get blackmail dirt on people the way Jeffrey Epstein did. I just think Jared Kushner is a super smart guy. And he's basically at the head of

the grift coalition, the grift coalition, which is the entire Trump family and his entire network. Like, and he's the one in charge of basically taking advantage of the opportunities that are afforded to them with all these Saudis and global leaders and quite frankly everybody in order to make as much money and, you know, hoard is much power and wealth as they can over the rest of this term. So that's what I think Jared Kushner's role is. I don't really think it's the blackmailing of people the way Epstein did. But anyway, let's listen to the rest of this. And so what are these guys trying to do? They're trying to fulfill eschatology. They're trying to position world events in a certain way that would accelerate the collapse of the world. Which is what Jeffrey Epstein did. Remember, we only have at most 50% of his email. It's possibly, it could be 2% of his email.

All right, man, there's a lot of talk about like the collapse of the world and all this stuff. I mean, again, just crazy talk. What seems to be crazy talk. But man, a lot of people are doing it. There's a Candace Owens episode from last week that I listened to. I'm going to listen to that again because she went incredibly deep on some, on some incredibly deep topics. And I need to digest it again. But I will most likely do an episode on her episode next week because I think it's worth listening to. And man, I genuinely, I think something's coming. I really do. And I think it's something COVID-like that's going to cause people to, again, I guess the best way to kind of think of COVID or the way I think about it now is it was something that caused a dramatic change in everybody's life and lifestyle.

And it caused people to really stay home a lot more. Now, one theory could be this ongoing war with Iran and, you know, driving up gas prices and all of that. I mean, if this thing goes to another level and now all the sudden, gas goes from, I mean, gosh, I think I pumped the other day in California like $5 and $5 and 19 cents. That's crazy. Now all of a sudden, imagine if gas goes to $10 and 19 cents or wherever you live if you're in the Midwest and you're paying $2.59 right now, $2.69. Imagine if you were paying $5.69, $6.69, $7.69. That is going to dramatically affect how much you go out. It absolutely is. And that's going to trickle down or trickle up to everything.

You know, a meal at a restaurant for a family of four right now. Again, I'm making this up. Let's say somewhere in the Midwest, forget California because it's just insane out here with the prices. But somewhere in the Midwest, you can go out to eat for your family for, let's say, 120 bucks. I don't even know if that's feasible these days. But let's say 120 bucks. Now all of a sudden, what if that's 320 bucks? What if that's even 220 bucks? You know, I think it's going to dramatically, that would dramatically affect people going out. The price of gas dramatically affect people driving and doing that stuff. The airline tickets, those would go up like crazy. Now all of a sudden, you know, everybody's not traveling. So to me, when I look back on COVID, it was, it was something that caused a ridiculous change in everybody's day to day life. And so again, whether it's this war and the war going to a another crazy level,

I don't know, for some reason I feel like something is coming that's going to cause that type of change. Like another major change in people's everyday, day to day life. I hope I'm totally wrong about this one. But I partly say that because you would think that Trump and the administration, as they're seeing their polling numbers, as they're just, you know, reading the room, it's like, bro, read the room, man. Nobody is happy with what you're doing. And he just keeps on doing it. You know, another reason I think that is, man, I've just noticed some weird interviews lately from these guys. I mean, forget Trump for a second, but JD Vance. I mean, some just strange choice of words that JD Vance uses in interviews. And by the way, I do find JD Vance highly intelligent. Therefore, I think whatever word choice he uses is by design.

And it is, it is on purpose. So give a listen to this interview he did with Megan Kelly and pay particular attention to his word choice that he uses multiple times. And there's a real question about whether there's a massive shift happening now in terms of world alliances long term. Well, it's definitely, I think, a new world order. I think the president has sought to it. There's a new world order in trade. There's a new world order in globalization and the way that we invest in our economy versus, you know, foreign supply chains. There's a new world order and the president is willing to shake up some old alliance structures. I mean, NATO, I think, is much different because of the president's leadership than it was ten years ago. Sort of coasting. It was effectively a protectorate of the United States of America. Obviously, you saw what happened in Venezuela. So yeah, the president is putting a stamp on world history. But fundamentally in America, first way, like the... All right. Not the America first, but like the four times he said new world order at the beginning of that. That was just odd to me. You know, that was odd. And I notice things like that. And I'll tell you why in particular,

I notice new world order because obviously that gets talked about a lot. But I think these guys are picking up on a playbook again, an old playbook that was started, and a lot of it goes back to Papa Bush, George H. W. Bush. So give a listen to this from 1988. Chris. Ending the long era of conflict in Cold War. We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations. A new world order. A world where the rule of law, not the law of the jungle, governs the conductive nations. When we are successful, and we will be, we have a real chance at this new world order, in order in which a credible United Nations can use its peacekeeping role to fulfill the promise and vision of the UN's founders.

All right. Again, think about that. That goes all the way back to 1988 with H. W. Bush talking about new world order. And then all of a sudden, here's, here you've got JD Vance three weeks ago on Megan Kelly, like saying new world order every other day. And then there's other guys, you know, like over the years, you've really heard this concept of new world order being spouted out by the uniparty class people from John Kerry to Nancy Pelosi to actually, let's listen. A new world order. A new order for the centuries, for the ages, forever. And the hope that each of us has to build a new world order. A new world order. A new world order. A new world order. A new world order. A new world order. A new world order. For a new world order. A new world order. A new world order. A new world order.

a new world order. Since then we established a liberal world order and that hadn't happened in a long while. A lot of people died, but nowhere near the chaos. And now is the time when things are shifting. We're going to have to be a new world order out there. And we've got to lead it. And after 1989, President Bush said, and it's a phrase that I often use myself that we needed a new world. We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations a new world order, a world where the rule of law, not the law of the jungle, governs the conductive nations. When we are successful and we will be, we have a real chance at this new world order. We will be looking at what contact tracing looks like in the new world order. Are you on the US on the Chinese side? Man, there were a lot of people in that. I wish you could see the video. Obviously you

probably recognize Biden's voice, but Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, man, there were a cast of characters in that thing. You had obviously George H. Bush, George W. Bush was in there. Henry Kissinger was in there. I just realized I never did my episode on Henry Kissinger. What's his face was in there? Oh my God. What is that Hungarian guy that gets all the gets everything blamed as being the billionaire left this? Oh my God. What is his name? Oh my God. George Soros. God, sometimes I blank on the weirdest things. But George Soros was in there. Henry Kissinger was in there. Tony Blair, the knucklehead former prime minister of England was in there. Just a lot of the Klaus Schwab, the guy from the former bald, big goofy dude from the world economic forum. I mean, just a lot of people that have been tied to this and this being, you know, this, this ruling party, this unaparty, this globalist elitist, and then Biden, obviously, and I'm telling you, man, I'm at a point. I finally am at a

point where I don't think there's a difference between Biden and Trump. And whether that was always the case or whether that is now the case, it kind of doesn't matter because it is the case. I think it's now the case. I don't think it was always the case. I'm still not on in the camp of, you know, Trump having pulled the siop on us since 2016. I again, think everything changed 2024. So okay, there's a little bit more of this. Let's hear the rest of it because again, man, I think something's coming. I really do. I hate to say that and I don't want to be like a, like a negative person, especially going into the weekend, but I guess I am. But anyway, this is just things that that should get on your radar. Because now progressively, a lot of people would like to see there are two orders in this world. This is a huge mistake, even for both the US and China. Okay, that was interesting and I did play ahead because I was very surprised that that was

a Emmanuel Macron and he's talking about how people think there's going to be two orders. There's going to be the US side and the China side. Obviously probably the two big superpowers. So I was kind of surprised because in my, in my opinion, honestly, I think it's all the same. I mean, I'm at a point where part of me thinks that what has taken place with the surveillance in China since 2012, actually, or maybe even 2008 since Obama came into power. And this is pretty wild because you'll see why in a second. And it really was 2008 when Obama came into power that that manufacturing started going over to China and China basically has become the super power since 2008. So I was very surprised at Emmanuel Macron for saying that in that speech. But I did listen ahead. And so now let me play you the rest of Emmanuel Macron.

And then I'm going to play you somebody that came onto the scene in 2008. We need a single global order. And that's come for the world to move in a new direction. We must embrace a new era of engagement based on mutual interest and mutual respect. And our work must begin now. And the president outlined his vision of a new world order in which the US would participate fully, one rooted on four basic principles, non-proliferation and disarmament, the promotion of peace and security, the preservation of our planet, and a global economy that advances opportunity for all people. All right. That was wild. That was seriously wild. Obviously that was Obama. Anyway, all right. Listen, I don't know, guys. I don't know what's going to happen. I really don't. But what I do think is that the more we talk about things, I think the more people

start to get an understanding and really try to flesh out what potentially a nefarious group of, you know, megalomaniac billionaires are trying to do. That's like the only opportunity to kind of foil those plans. And then the question becomes, can it even be possible to stop anything? I don't know, man. I don't know. But obviously, I think understanding and trying to figure out kind of what is taking place and what is happening is a good decision. Okay. Last thing, pay attention to what's going on in terms of the stuff with this war. And especially I'm talking about false flags. I have a feeling we're going to start to see crazy things happen. You know, suicide bombings, this, that, this, that they're going to try to blame this blame that blame this blame that. And really, you know, God forbid, I hope not. But, you know, in my mind, a 9-11 type, you

know, major event to drum up public support for something again, major that could lead to everything we've talked about this episode. I hope that's not the case, but I could definitely see that being plausible. All right, everybody. Have a great weekend. And I'll be back next week next week. I'm going to try and get some more some of the interviews that I've got going. And I need to start recording interviews again. And that's about it. All right. Have a great weekend. Get out there. Get some steps in. Do some hills, man. These hills are these hills are kicking my butt. But I love it. I love it. So get steps in. Do hills. Do step. Well, I just said that. Do steps. Call your parents. Enjoy your families. Enjoy your friends. Enjoy your time. And we'll talk to you soon. That was a great way to end it. This episode was brought to you by the new book Deep Shallow Dive Into You. Available now on Amazon in hardcover, paperback, as well as via Kindle. Pick up your copy today of Deep Shallow Dive Into You, a guide to having a more authentic

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